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Pa Murdaugh Charged

I KNEW he did it! Those creepy dead eyes…..the son and wife were probably awful people but still feel sad for them being killed by murdering Murdaugh….

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by Anonymousreply 569February 3, 2023 2:33 AM

What a LOSER! Lock him up for the dead nanny and gay boy too.

by Anonymousreply 1July 13, 2022 12:25 AM

Finally, someone who lived up to his name.

by Anonymousreply 2July 13, 2022 12:36 AM

I bet this guy will snuff himself before it’s all over.

And where’s Buster? Hiding whatever assets are laying around?

by Anonymousreply 3July 13, 2022 12:39 AM

Any thoughts on who killed the gay boy? Stephen I think…

by Anonymousreply 4July 13, 2022 12:41 AM

I’m sure all the other deaths will be investigated now too. I always thought Buster had a hand in the boy found dead on the road.

I suspected Alex killed the mother and son when they released the 911 call and he said while sobbing into the phone “oh Paul( -why did you have to get caught up in all of this”

- the wife had consulted divorce lawyers and a forensic accountant - his illegal financial activity would have been exposed so he killed her and then liked the son because he arrived on the scene as it happened.

by Anonymousreply 5July 13, 2022 12:47 AM

Killed not liked *

by Anonymousreply 6July 13, 2022 12:47 AM

R1, yes, I want to know about the other deaths and all of the other Murdaugh corruption.

by Anonymousreply 7July 13, 2022 1:03 AM

GOOD. They should just execute him. He did so many bad things, it’s insane.

He’s proof that truth is stranger than fiction. Remember when he was supposedly shot by the side of the road?

I lost interest in following this too closely because it became downright Byzantine. But what I did love is that absolutely everyone in the story was dirty and corrupt.

by Anonymousreply 8July 13, 2022 1:05 AM

Murdaugh Most Foul.

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by Anonymousreply 9July 13, 2022 1:30 AM

I agree with R5, that's the likeliest scenario. Wife is planning to ruin his life of prosperous corruption, and when he's killing her, the psycho son comes along and tries to save his mother. But what the hell was the scenario with the "murder attempt", where his methhead cousin supposedly tried to shoot him? My theory is that Murdaugh was planning to kill the guy and use the corpse to fake his own death.

But yeah, the odds of a real suicide are now good. A narcissist can live with the fact that they killed their own son, but not with the fact that everyone *knows* they killed their own son.

by Anonymousreply 10July 13, 2022 1:33 AM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 11July 13, 2022 8:37 PM

I had assumed he was just trying to get a life insurance payout on the wife and maybe the kid.

by Anonymousreply 12July 13, 2022 8:44 PM

It goes before the grand jury tomorrow. Between the high velocity blood spatter on his shirt and video recording proving he was there (presumably from wife or son's cell), it's got to be a slam dunk.

by Anonymousreply 13July 13, 2022 8:52 PM

Why'd he kill the normal-looking son, instead of the ugly red-headed one?

by Anonymousreply 14July 13, 2022 9:09 PM

This guy isn’t human. An incomprehensible monster.

Buster’s no prize, either. Hopefully, he’ll get charged with the murder of Stephen Smith.

by Anonymousreply 15July 13, 2022 9:13 PM

I thought we decided that the dead boy was the psycho in the family, hadn't he been responsible for at least one death and mutliple assaults?

by Anonymousreply 16July 13, 2022 9:26 PM

Maw wanted a divorce, knew where Pawpaw had stashed the secret stolen insurance funds from the maid's death (whom I don't believe Pawpaw actually killed, but he DID cheat the shit out of her children and the insurance companies, some 5 million buck$). Paw knew Maw would rat on him about her share of the dough in any divorce settlement and would reveal the truth about it if he didn't pay her off, and so he blew her brains out, himself. Execution style. Junior was at the wrong place, wrong time, tried to save Maw, and Paw just *had* to kill him too, dontch'all understand? He HAD to....Awwrite Paw, take yer pick: Life in prison without parole, or jury trial and face the death penalty. We're waiting. It'll be over in just about 1 afternoon, we'll never hear another word about the whole mess.

by Anonymousreply 17July 13, 2022 9:46 PM

^And thinking about it, perhaps Maw wanted ALL the insurance payoff or substantially all of it, under threat of turning Paw over to the cops if he failed to play along. Why not?

by Anonymousreply 18July 13, 2022 9:54 PM

^She was at the house the morning the maid fell...

by Anonymousreply 19July 13, 2022 9:55 PM

It was a foregone conclusion Paw did it. Im wondering just how dirty the ugly son is now. How is he living ? Im sure what little money was left is long gone.

by Anonymousreply 20July 13, 2022 9:57 PM

I'm not concerned about him in the slightest. An entire family of CUNTS.

by Anonymousreply 21July 13, 2022 10:02 PM

If this were a series it’d be unbelievable. Like “Ozark”. How can so many people die in the vicinity of this family? And they’re making money off all this death. And each of them is horrible in their own little way.

If I were an investigator in SC, I’d be looking for ties to this murderous grifting clan and any unsolved crime.

by Anonymousreply 22July 13, 2022 10:04 PM

The Murdaugh Murders podcast has been fun since this story started hearing up.

It’s a local reporter who knows the people and terrain in South Carolina and gets the story better than the network news folks who parachuted in.

by Anonymousreply 23July 13, 2022 11:06 PM

[quote]Before his death, Paul was driving a boat drunk when it crashed and killed 19-year-old Mallory Beach on board.

Dead men don't drive boats. Gotta love the DM.

by Anonymousreply 24July 14, 2022 1:00 AM

[quote]Dead men don't drive boats.

But they tell no tales.

by Anonymousreply 25July 14, 2022 1:06 AM

A trip down memory lane regarding how awful that family is. Police audio of the night they were looking for Mallory Beach. Her boyfriend points out how Paul murdaugh is seen laughing in the midst of it all. Sociopathy runs in the family obviously.

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by Anonymousreply 26July 14, 2022 4:08 AM

Rich cunts learn they have impunity, and one rich cunt learned that from Poppa Rich Cunt.

by Anonymousreply 27July 14, 2022 4:40 AM

That doesn’t mean all people that can get away with stuff will go and murder others r27. Psychopathy can run in families.

by Anonymousreply 28July 14, 2022 4:52 AM

One of the sites dedicated to the murders said the surviving son was kicked out of law school for cheating.

by Anonymousreply 29July 14, 2022 5:09 AM

This family are almost the equivalent of the Trumps, southern trash version.

by Anonymousreply 30July 14, 2022 5:34 AM

The son’s drunken boating that caused the death of poor Mallory Beach was the event that kicked all the scrutiny of these loathsome garbage people into high gear, correct?

by Anonymousreply 31July 14, 2022 6:34 AM

R31, sure, locally. I think the double murder of Paul and Maggie kicked it off nationally.

by Anonymousreply 32July 14, 2022 6:36 AM

Can we talk about this? Who’s “Gibson” and why is his name listed in the police report documents as Alec and the dead lady and son? Why is there a document about him the same as everyone who was at the crime scene? There aren’t any cops named Gibson but they have family friends named Gibson. What do those numbers after the names mean? Possible witness?

This is from the police report.

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by Anonymousreply 33July 14, 2022 6:46 AM

It’s probably just a neighbor or friend of one of the kids. It’s not a big deal. Probably the first name just didn’t transcribe well from police notes. There ain’t much co text here for what this is or where you got it. The redacted stuff is more interesting

by Anonymousreply 34July 14, 2022 8:56 AM

When the ma and murderer son were killed, I thought it could possibly be revenge from one of the family members of the victim.

Then I started reading about the Murdaugh family and realised what a corrupt bunch of twats they were.

After pa did his pathetic suicide attempt, I started to realise it was him. Took me awhile but I got there.

by Anonymousreply 35July 14, 2022 9:56 AM

Man is Paw Murdaugh a loathsome human being who spawned two children who learned at his knee how to also be awful. I'd love to read about the dead mother too; I don't think she was some wonderful human being either.

But the real story for me is that there were so many people in orbit around the family that never did anything to stop the Murdaugh's dealings... how many members of the law firm were there? School teachers who pointed out that the two spawns were sociopaths in training? Not ONE police office or detective from the local force to state investigator could make a case against any family member or cousin and being down the whole Jenga tower? Not ONE?

The fact that no one ever stopped these creatures points out how spineless so many people can be.

by Anonymousreply 36July 14, 2022 11:10 AM

You couldn’t make a story of the Murdaugh family up, which is what is so intriguing about this whole saga. Once the case closes on Alec, and hopefully, the other questionable deaths, I’m sure there will be several non-fiction books about the family.

I really hope a good non-fiction author puts together a book that interweaves a subplot of antisocial personality disorders running in families coupled to the decades of skullduggery perpetrated by the Murdaughs in their multi-generational quest for power and influence. It would be a highly interesting read, to say the least.

by Anonymousreply 37July 14, 2022 1:54 PM

R36, it's not just spinelessness. Families like the Murdaughs don't exist in a void. The whole social order of that area propped up people like them. The police and the court system were in their favor; think of all of the suspicious events that were never investigated. Plus they must have had connections to other wealthy, corrupt people. To many, I'm sure it seemed as if they had no place to turn even if they wanted to fight back.

by Anonymousreply 38July 14, 2022 3:00 PM

Just a run of the mill junkie. Except most junkies avoid violence

by Anonymousreply 39July 14, 2022 3:08 PM

This is the bitch that took him down, and a is taking down a whole lot of other people too. Team Mandy.

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by Anonymousreply 40July 14, 2022 3:35 PM

I read on Unresolved Mysteries on Reddit that the death of the maid was being re-opened due to pressure from her family. Apparently some posters had listened to the 911 call made by the mom after the maid’s “fall” and it was heart-wrenching . The 911 operator asked the caller to check on the woman-try and stem the bleeding, talk to her, etc. and the family didn’t even want to touch her! The mom sounded so inconvenienced by it all. Terrible, terrible people.

by Anonymousreply 41July 14, 2022 3:43 PM

The maid's body is being exhumed.

by Anonymousreply 42July 14, 2022 3:46 PM

I think Scott Turow is the southern author who could put the whole story together and keep it riveting and non-sensational.

The maid's family, the Beach family and the one for the young man who died along a road (I think I have that correct) would make for compelling characters.

And R38, you make some very good points about the whole social scene for the region's "upper crust".

by Anonymousreply 43July 14, 2022 4:04 PM

Scott Turow would be an excellent choice. However, he's Chicago born and bred. I don't think his law career took him south.

by Anonymousreply 44July 14, 2022 6:01 PM

This tidbit is new to me: after authorities unlocked Paul's phone, they found a recording made close to the time of the murder in which Alex and Maggie could be heard talking. Alex claimed that he hadn't seen either of them that day.

"In addition, a phone belonging to Paul Murdaugh was recovered on his body containing video and audio of Alex Murdaugh talking with his wife close to the time she and Paul were killed, the source said.

Alex Murdaugh is not seen on the video but is heard speaking with her, and that recording has a time stamp, the source said, which may prove key to the investigation."

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by Anonymousreply 45July 14, 2022 6:38 PM

^It's very weird that an attorney of long standing, from a family of attorneys going back almost 100 years, would not have had more sense about the evidence he was creating, the clues, the micro-spattering of blood on his clothes, cell phones transmitting their whereabouts (*especially*), etc. It's just kind of incomprehensible to me.

by Anonymousreply 46July 14, 2022 6:42 PM

Maybe he wasnt a very good attorney R46 ?

by Anonymousreply 47July 14, 2022 6:48 PM

If he duped those poor kids out of $5 million, he's clearly pretty good at SOME aspects of the trade. Clearly not very good as a murderer, though.

by Anonymousreply 48July 14, 2022 6:50 PM

R46, he wasn’t that kind of attorney. And he thought he’d get away with it, because he always had, before.

by Anonymousreply 49July 14, 2022 6:53 PM

The sons were so short.

He probably resented the wife for her bad genes.

by Anonymousreply 50July 14, 2022 7:04 PM

Believe me as someone who knows what he's talking about, 49, if that guy's family had been attorneys in that godforsaken part of the United States for nearly 100 years, Paw had had a LOT of contact with the criminal law in that court system. There is just no way around that.

by Anonymousreply 51July 14, 2022 7:14 PM

Same here, r46. He was an accident and personal injury attorney not in criminal defense, but anyone who's watched a police procedural would know a few of these things. Whenever I see pictures of him, he always looks like a big, dumb oaf. He looks stupid. He didn't know that his life insurance policy would cover suicide, so he tried to get meth head cousin to kill him. At the time, he was driving a Mercedes model that had tires that self inflate in the event of a puncture, so his ruse of stopping to change a tire made no sense. Either the guy was so addled by years of pill abuse or he's truly stupid. Or both. I'm in awe how he managed to keep the house of cards up for so long. I hope his brothers are being investigated.

by Anonymousreply 52July 14, 2022 7:15 PM

^SOMEONE tossed one of the victims' cell phones out of "the getaway car" on the roadside near the site of the murders, and didn't even bother dropping it into the water (which is EVERYWHERE in that low-lying, swampy part of the country). It's hard for me to conceive of tossing that phone on dry land, assuming you WANTED it to be found, as a very smart strategic move on Paw's part. It was dumb as hell. -R51

by Anonymousreply 53July 14, 2022 7:20 PM

My favourite Twitter comment is simply, "Damn he murdaughed his wife and kid."

by Anonymousreply 54July 14, 2022 7:35 PM

Paw's not getting out of jail on bond for this one, too many squirrely things he did while he was out loose, including trying to stage his own "murder." If he's going to kill himself, he's gonna have to wrangle it in the pokey.

by Anonymousreply 55July 14, 2022 7:39 PM

It has always amazed me that, after committing heinous crimes which could send one to death row, a killer would choose to keep a $35 blood stained coverall, a weapon or whatever. You really wouldn't think to dispose of these items and replace them later...?

by Anonymousreply 56July 14, 2022 7:43 PM

How many stories have we seen where the perp's keep the shoes,clothing,weapon etc ? obviously criminals arent as smart as they think they are.

by Anonymousreply 57July 14, 2022 7:47 PM

"Paw had had a LOT of contact with the criminal law in that court system. There is just no way around that."

That's why he was able to get away with so many crimes, he was part of a corrupt local legal system. I presume it was one of those system where anyone honest had been forced out over the years, and the police, legal, and judicial systems were all corrupt and used their power to enrich themselves, and to support the local oligarchy, and their reward was that the lawyers, judges, and chief of police got to *be* part of the local oligarchy.

And that's why I think that the "murder attempt" was Murdaugh trying to kill his meth dealer cousin, and use the corpse to fake his own death. Sure, any student of forensic medicine would have been able to prove that the corpse wasn't Paul Murdaugh, but if the coroner was as corrupt as everyone in the local oligarchy then Paul Murdaugh would have been declared dead and the case closed. And people would have hopefully stopped investigating local corruption and the petty oligarchs could go back to enjoying the horrible way of life they'd forced on the whole region...

by Anonymousreply 58July 14, 2022 8:22 PM

Sorry to keep harping on this, but I see this whole saga as a slightly more tame version of “Ozark” with dumber and less moral people. They had everyone bribed up or intimidated; everyone.

Didn’t Alex have a mistress, too?

by Anonymousreply 59July 14, 2022 8:30 PM

Remember the one thing we are *not* going to see from all these future books about the case is a thorough investigation of Buster's involvement in all this.'

You can't libel the dead, so any discussion of their crimes is legally safe, but you'd be a fool to libel a surviving family member in a clan of corrupt lawyers.

by Anonymousreply 60July 14, 2022 8:36 PM

More proof that gingers have no soul.

by Anonymousreply 61July 14, 2022 8:50 PM

R33- "Can we talk about this? Who’s “Gibson” He was a caretaker who was living in the caretakers house in from of the property, facing the road. He is a long time friend of Buster's, as they use to live next door to each other. R53: "^SOMEONE tossed one of the victims' cell phones out of "the getaway car" on the roadside near the site of the murders, and didn't even bother dropping it into the water " That isn't even the most stupid thing he did. He forgot to take Paul's phone which had audio/ video of him talking to his wife by the kennels minutes before the TOD, as well as proving he was lying about not seeing her that evening. But he took her phone, only for it to be easily found the next day. Changed his albi about his whereabouts several times, the first albi was that he had been hunting at night, in the rain, in June ( nothing to hunt then). It was obvious he lied in order to explain the GDR on his hands. Claimed to be an opioid addict when everyone who knew him was aware that he was a coke fiend and alcoholic. Wealthy, powerful men get opioids legvebtally from their many complicit doctors, they do not have to resort to street drugs. He is known to be involved in manufacturing meth and cheap oxycodone, as well as scamming his clients and various insurance companies. Despite these lucrative and nefarious business ventures, he was deeply in debt and millions of dollars can not be accounted for. He is said to be the only drug manufacturer too stupid to make a profit. Maggie was planning to divorce him and have an audit of their financials and his illegal activity would have been exposed, this because her check to a charity bounced. She certainly wasn't with that hideous looking motherfucker out of love. Alec had signed the deed to Moselle over to her years ago, and she was not feeling inclined to give it back to him. Paul was an alcoholic psychopath who was costing his Paw more money and scrutiny than the ugly little fucker was worth. Things haven't gone well for Alec since his rotten father died three days after the double murder. He is suspected in many other deaths, as is the unfortunate looking Buster. Buster is suspected of killing his former lover , Steven Smith. The saga continues...

by Anonymousreply 62July 14, 2022 10:35 PM

R62- GSR, legally.

by Anonymousreply 63July 14, 2022 10:37 PM

Are they Irish?

by Anonymousreply 64July 14, 2022 10:42 PM

R64- Actually, yes they are, lolol! Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 65July 14, 2022 10:44 PM

Psycho guy, insanity in his eyes. Probably the monster of the century. His devil offspring killed that beautiful biy Stephen .

by Anonymousreply 66July 14, 2022 10:50 PM

R66- I believe Alec could be his killer. SS was dating an older, wealthy married man right before he was killed. Just a week or so after the double murders LE announced that they were reopening his case due to information they suddenly found. ( During the Moselle investigation). One of the Murdaughs killed Steven, it just isn't known which one yet. It is interesting that Steven's mother has nothing but nice things to say about Buster, though.

by Anonymousreply 67July 14, 2022 11:03 PM

Well, there’s your clue, people at r65!

by Anonymousreply 68July 15, 2022 5:53 AM

What is GSR? Can you girls stop using abbreviations nobody knows?

by Anonymousreply 69July 15, 2022 5:58 AM

Gun shot residue, R69.

by Anonymousreply 70July 15, 2022 6:36 AM

He has most definitely presented hole

by Anonymousreply 71July 15, 2022 6:36 AM

Investigators are exhuming the body of the former housekeeper/nanny. She fell UP a small flight (6 steps) of stairs at the Moselle home. Alex, who claimed to be at work at the time of her fall, actually got to the scene of the accident before emergency services did. (He was at home, never left) He is caring that way. Her injuries, imo, are consistent with an automobile accident or someone in the last stages of osteoporosis. Thank goodness Maggie was there. She did sound very concerned... about being awakened by this trivial bullshit. The 911 operator advised and encouraged Paul (Maggs had shuffled off back to bed by this time.) to stop the bleeding but Paul wasn't about to touch the help. Both Paul and Maggie appeared to have the compassion of a serial killer.

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by Anonymousreply 72July 15, 2022 6:58 AM

My goodness, that mugshot. What a fucked up guy!

by Anonymousreply 73July 15, 2022 8:03 AM

I guess emulating Jeffrey MacDonald didn't work out so well.

by Anonymousreply 74July 15, 2022 9:58 AM

This has got to be one of the most anticipated crime documentaries--in my mind at least. Get me some popcorn.

by Anonymousreply 75July 15, 2022 10:34 AM

I hope Mallory’s hot dad is doing okay.

by Anonymousreply 76July 15, 2022 11:24 AM

Here's a nice timeline from CNN.

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by Anonymousreply 77July 15, 2022 12:21 PM

Tomorrow night (Saturday) 48 Hours on CBS will have an updated episode on the situation, including the new murder indictments and the upcoming autopsy of the housekeeper.

by Anonymousreply 78July 15, 2022 12:47 PM

I wonder what the grudge against the housekeeper was.

by Anonymousreply 79July 15, 2022 1:23 PM

R79 There wasn't a grudge, it was an insurance scam.

by Anonymousreply 80July 15, 2022 1:24 PM

I didn't realize that Smith, the guy involved in the fake suicide, was also involved in the embezzlement schemes.

by Anonymousreply 81July 15, 2022 1:34 PM

Gloria Satterfield:

According to a 2018 report from attorney Scott Wallinger, who was hired by Lloyds of London to represent Alex Murdaugh in the case, Gloria sustained a right-sided head laceration, a right-sided subdural hematoma, a traumatic brain injury, multiple left-side posterior rib fractures, a partially collapsed lung and a plumonary contusion.

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by Anonymousreply 82July 15, 2022 2:00 PM

R81- That is Cousin Eddie, lol. He really is a distant cousin to Alex Murdaugh. You just can't make this shit up. I believe AM called Cousin that to meet because AM was going to set him up and make it look as if Cousin attacked him and he killed him in self defense, thus claiming Cousin Eddie killed poor Maggie and Paul and attempted to kill AM. Of course the idiot Alex was too stupid to choose a secluded area in all of that vast swampland and he chose a church which had a CCT camera pointed right at the road they were on. Eddie, not being the trusting type, somehow got the upper hand and took Alex's weapon away and probably knocked the hell out of him.

by Anonymousreply 83July 15, 2022 2:17 PM

R82 Granted I'm not an expert but can you get all of those things falling 6 steps...? Seems implausible to me.

by Anonymousreply 84July 15, 2022 2:17 PM

R82- Sorry, it was 8 steps and she supposedly fell up the steps. Unless someone bashed her with a baseball bat as she was falling upward, I find that impossible. The fact that her death was not investigated and no autopsy was done is inexcusable to me.

by Anonymousreply 85July 15, 2022 2:21 PM

Another victim: In the last month, Pamela Pinckney has been made aware that her former attorney Alex Murdaugh allegedly stole nearly $1 million from her family during the worst time of her life. She spoke with FITSNews about how devastated she was to learn that her attorney — someone she trusted to handle both her son Hakeem’s car accident case and his wrongful death case — stole from her family when they knew how much Hakeem suffered. He was paralyzed and required a ventilator to breathe. Someone unhooked/unplugged his ventilator and he died. Alex Murdaugh is a monster. A serial killer.

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by Anonymousreply 86July 15, 2022 2:29 PM

R62, I thought the caretaker was another guy. Not Gibson. And that guy has worked for a school and was fired for inappropriate contact. Gibson was a family friend and former neighbor, but the caretaker was living in the caretaker’s residence. Did a deep dive on this once and forgot the details. Ugh whatever. They’re all criminals.

by Anonymousreply 87July 15, 2022 2:29 PM

There’s not enough jail time for this guy.

I wonder if he’s trying to bribe/threaten prison employees and other inmates, or if he’s been defanged, essentially.

by Anonymousreply 88July 15, 2022 2:31 PM

R87- You are correct, they are brothers and both were friends with Buster. After the the charge of inappropriate behavior he was told to leave the Moselle property. His brother is the one who was living in the caretaker house when the murders occurred.

by Anonymousreply 89July 15, 2022 2:33 PM

Unfortunately lawyers are valuable in prison. He'll be protected. Everyone thinks they're just one appeal away from getting out

by Anonymousreply 90July 15, 2022 2:37 PM

R88- I believe Alex lost a lot of his power when his father died. The power was actually held by RM111 and AM was tolerated because his Daddy. RM111 died three days after Maggie and Paul were killed. He died from cancer. Everything seemed to go to hell for Alex immediately.

by Anonymousreply 91July 15, 2022 2:38 PM

Strange that Murdaugh, Trump, Putin are all going down a the same time. One of the astrologers said that some moon was in something when Trump was born which was why he had so much luck but that moon has passed and his luck has run out. Looks like it is the same for the others too.

by Anonymousreply 92July 15, 2022 2:47 PM

R92 That's got to be the only logical explanation for all of this

by Anonymousreply 93July 15, 2022 2:55 PM

R92- I really hope that is true. It has become impossible to believe people like this ever have to face any justice anymore. I was absolutely shocked when they indicated Murdaugh. Never did I believe that would happen. Had the case not received national media coverage, I truly doubt he would have.

by Anonymousreply 94July 15, 2022 2:58 PM

What is this part of South Carolina is this? It reminds me of the rural South I grew up in in that late 1950s and early 1960s. What a throw back.

by Anonymousreply 95July 15, 2022 3:12 PM

R92 FFS

by Anonymousreply 96July 15, 2022 3:39 PM

Now that we see how stupid and inept ol' Alek is, it really doesn't speak well for the populace of of Columbia, SC that he was able to bilk so many of them for so long.

by Anonymousreply 97July 15, 2022 4:09 PM

R97, Alex fulfilled the typical pattern of dynasties—by the time you get to the third generation, everyone is spoiled and weak and can’t keep the family’s fortune together.

by Anonymousreply 98July 15, 2022 4:13 PM

R40 is that frau small town Mandy with the vocal fry and endless self-promotion podcast.

by Anonymousreply 99July 15, 2022 4:19 PM

She gets that vicious people like you criticize her voice. She’s discussed with with total disgust.

She’s an ace local journalist — something that is pretty much extinct. She’s been central to bringing this guy to justice.

But mock away. It must lift your spirits.

by Anonymousreply 100July 15, 2022 5:34 PM

[quote] where the perp's keep the shoes,clothing,weapon

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 101July 15, 2022 6:18 PM

[quote] I wonder what the grudge against the housekeeper was.

Too much Lemon Pledge. The whole damn house reeked of it.

by Anonymousreply 102July 15, 2022 6:18 PM

[quote] I guess emulating Jeffrey MacDonald didn't work out so well.

This dude was more closely akin to Ronald McDonald.

by Anonymousreply 103July 15, 2022 6:19 PM

[quote] RM111

Oh, FFS.

by Anonymousreply 104July 15, 2022 6:20 PM

What happened to the housekeeper who "accidentally" died and the gay teenage boy who died under mysterious circumstances?

by Anonymousreply 105July 15, 2022 6:21 PM

Did you even read the thread?

by Anonymousreply 106July 15, 2022 6:26 PM

I've read several times that the housekeeper's body "is being exhumed". How long does it take to undig a grave?

by Anonymousreply 107July 15, 2022 6:31 PM

‘Bout seven hours.

That’s iffin we don’t take a lunch.

by Anonymousreply 108July 15, 2022 6:36 PM

R107, in defense of the investigators it’s not like she’s going anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 109July 15, 2022 6:36 PM

ID channel did a 3-part series on the murders. They played a tape of the 911 call when Maggie called to report the housekeepers death. I recall her being calm and matter of fact and when asked the woman's age coldly replied "I don't know." The housekeeper had worked for them for over 20 years.

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by Anonymousreply 110July 15, 2022 6:54 PM

Who is playing Alex in the inevitable made-for-Hulu film?

by Anonymousreply 111July 15, 2022 7:01 PM

Neil Patrick Harris.

by Anonymousreply 112July 15, 2022 7:03 PM

He’s very versatile.

by Anonymousreply 113July 15, 2022 7:04 PM

An owl killed my wife and son! I swear!

by Anonymousreply 114July 15, 2022 8:13 PM

Crazy, drug-obsessed hippies killed my wife and son! I swear!

by Anonymousreply 115July 15, 2022 8:16 PM

Acid is groovy. Kill the pigs.

by Anonymousreply 116July 15, 2022 8:58 PM

Come on, guys. I was here first.

by Anonymousreply 117July 15, 2022 9:00 PM

"I believe Alex lost a lot of his power when his father died. The power was actually held by RM111 and AM was tolerated because his Daddy"

I wonder if Maggie decided to get out once Daddy Murdaugh was dead and his local dictatorship was gone, there was no point in sticking around... so it was time to get out of there with all she could get?

by Anonymousreply 118July 15, 2022 9:03 PM

So is there now one kid who gets everything? If there's anything left?

by Anonymousreply 119July 15, 2022 9:07 PM

They already sold their home and moved to the hunting lodge, and there will be so many judgements against the estate I'm sure there will be nothing left. Buster will have to continue selling his used clothing on eBay until he goes to the slammer, also.

by Anonymousreply 120July 15, 2022 10:49 PM

Poshmark, Buster has a thriving business on Poshmark thank you very much!

by Anonymousreply 121July 15, 2022 11:04 PM

[quote] there will be so many judgements

Like we’re judging you?

by Anonymousreply 122July 15, 2022 11:51 PM

Stop with the fucking abbreviations-GSR, RM111, etc. This isn’t websleuths! Pretty soon we’ll get so fancy we’ll use the term “unsub”!

And R103, I burst out laughing!

by Anonymousreply 123July 16, 2022 12:08 AM

Did I read Buster had moved in with some distant relative?

Maybe a second cousin once removed.

He should make himself useful.

by Anonymousreply 124July 16, 2022 12:43 AM

Buster better change his name and be prepared to work his way up from the bottom. Or is that as a bottom?

by Anonymousreply 125July 16, 2022 12:56 AM

[quote] Like we’re judging you?—Oh, dear.

Sorry, R122…what’s your “oh dear” for?

by Anonymousreply 126July 16, 2022 12:57 AM

Did Buster ever come out,

by Anonymousreply 127July 16, 2022 1:25 AM

[Quote] But what I did love is that absolutely everyone in the story was dirty and corrupt.

What was Mallory Beach's dirty business?

by Anonymousreply 128July 16, 2022 1:27 AM

I don’t want to watch anything about this until Buster does something stupid again or AM does something psychotic in prison. The story of these crazies isn’t quite over yet.

by Anonymousreply 129July 16, 2022 1:30 AM

Is Buster a real name or a nickname?

by Anonymousreply 130July 16, 2022 1:44 AM

His real name is Busthim.

by Anonymousreply 131July 16, 2022 1:45 AM

You mean Bustime?

by Anonymousreply 132July 16, 2022 1:47 AM

Rich peckerwood NOT getting away with murder in South Carolina? Hell has frozen over.

by Anonymousreply 133July 16, 2022 1:49 AM

R130 His real name is Richard Alexander Jr. Buster was the nickname of his paternal grandfather, Randolph, so I guess they transferred that nickname.

by Anonymousreply 134July 16, 2022 2:00 AM

ABC has a 2 hour 20/20 on Pa Murdaugh's Murders

It may be partly a repeat of an earlier episode

by Anonymousreply 135July 16, 2022 2:02 AM

This cunt did everything except rape the dog and set fire to the post office.

by Anonymousreply 136July 16, 2022 2:16 AM

I'm a true crime addict, but when I this case first started I didn't pay much attention because I thought it was all about dead, rich, white people.

Little did I know...

Alex had it made, just had to go to law school, keep his nose clean, and he was set for life.

I hate when people piss away awesome opportunities.

by Anonymousreply 137July 16, 2022 2:24 AM

r95 Lowcountry / Buford and Sea Islands with the Gullah speakers nearby which would account for the Murdaugh family's plantation mentality

by Anonymousreply 138July 16, 2022 7:42 AM

r135, when's the ABC 20/20 episode? Tonight (Sat.) CBS is running an updated 48 Hours episode but I don't know whether it's on at 9 or 10.

by Anonymousreply 139July 16, 2022 8:25 AM

* Beaufort not Buford

by Anonymousreply 140July 16, 2022 8:36 AM

Just a reminder: Beaufort, SC is pronounced BEW-fert. Beaufort, NC, which isn't all that far away, is pronounced BOH-fert. Relevant because the Murdaughs had their beach cottage and their boats at the SC location.

by Anonymousreply 141July 16, 2022 8:48 AM

[quote] Who is playing Alex in the inevitable made-for-Hulu film?

Larry Joe Campbell, the fat guy from "According to Jim."

by Anonymousreply 142July 16, 2022 10:36 AM

I can't believe how many crimes this entitled shitbag committed.

I wonder - there had to be a first step. What was it?

How the hell do you manage to lay waste to your own life so thoroughly?

by Anonymousreply 143July 16, 2022 11:01 AM

If it's true he had an expensive addiction and whores to keep as well as his family's expectations of a good living, it would have that - the need to keep getting money from the insurance payouts.

by Anonymousreply 144July 16, 2022 11:05 AM

*have been

by Anonymousreply 145July 16, 2022 11:06 AM

Funnelling a payout from his housekeepers death onsite to his own accounts... There's a place in hell for you, Pa Murdaugh.

by Anonymousreply 146July 16, 2022 11:07 AM

*housekeeper's

by Anonymousreply 147July 16, 2022 11:07 AM

I hate it when I am denied an opportunity to “oh, my”!

by Anonymousreply 148July 16, 2022 11:37 AM

Now everyone is entitled to their day in court and the presumption of innocence.

Just kidding, the asshole did it.

by Anonymousreply 149July 16, 2022 11:53 AM

I read this whole thread and it was a shit summary. Can someone link to the older threads we've done on this? Far more informative....

by Anonymousreply 150July 16, 2022 2:56 PM

This was the original thread I started on this family, there were follow up threads, but some were inexplicably deleted. But this shows the early days.

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by Anonymousreply 151July 16, 2022 3:46 PM

We visited Beaufort a few years back as part of a Midnight in the Garden of Evil homage. We travelled from Savannah to Charleston, visiting the book's highlight locations in the Savannah area at the start, including the grave of Johnny Mercer in the Bonaventure Cemetery.

While in Beaufort we took a walking tour of the town's ghostly highlights culminating in visit to that town's small cemetery. Our tour guide was a delightful Southern Belle, about 19, who at the grave of a Civil War notable told us a ghost tale involving the war veteran and a "darkie." She employed an array of local accents to tell the tale, including the "darkie's" slave patois. It was both shocking, memorable, and amusing to hear her so speak so innocently that way as she told the tragic and racist story.

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by Anonymousreply 152July 16, 2022 4:54 PM

R150 This was the most recent previous active Murdaugh thread

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by Anonymousreply 153July 16, 2022 7:22 PM

WHERE are the WHORES??!!

by Anonymousreply 154July 16, 2022 7:27 PM

Justice for Stephen Smith!

by Anonymousreply 155July 16, 2022 8:23 PM

CBS has just started an updated episode about the Murdaugh murders (Sat., 10pm).

by Anonymousreply 156July 17, 2022 3:03 AM

Well…

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by Anonymousreply 157July 17, 2022 3:05 AM

^ Episode of 48 Hours.

by Anonymousreply 158July 17, 2022 3:05 AM

Try to imagine the scenario at "the plantation" (LOL) the night of the killings, where enraged Dad, holding a shotgun on his wife (presumably), forces her to allow him to tie her up with rope BEFORE he shot her in the head (a good long distance away from the house)...AND THEN, or simultaneously, he tied up Paul too. How can one man, holding a big gun, get the better of TWO people long enough to tie BOTH of them up? It's nuts. The mind just boggles. Why wouldn't the wife have just laughed at him? The bodies were found a good distance from the house, down near dog kennels which were closer to the road, so where did he make contact with the two victims? They MUST have been in the house, it was dark. Did the son go out to see why the dogs were barking? (The dogs would NOT have been barking at Paw, however, because they "knew" him...?). The whole event is just so very weird. It almost seems as if Paw would have needed accomplices, but this was NOT the kind of thing where you could ever trust anyone you paid to assist with it.

by Anonymousreply 159July 17, 2022 1:07 PM

I thought Paul was caring for friends dogs, which wouldn’t necessarily have known Pa?

by Anonymousreply 160July 17, 2022 2:01 PM

One thing about the dogs that just occurred to me: hunting dogs kept in kennels WILL typically start making a racket even when one of their owners comes near, because they think they're going to get fed or be let out of their cages, they start making a ruckus just from excitement, which would have tipped off Maw and Sonny Boy up in the house (drinking, almost certainly) that *someone* (or some animal) was down there in the dark, leading Sonny to go and investigate, maybe followed by Maw... -R159.

by Anonymousreply 161July 17, 2022 2:34 PM

R161 I thought I read the wife was killed first, then a short time passed, then the son was killed. I think it was the CNN article that put the timeline together.

by Anonymousreply 162July 17, 2022 2:43 PM

The CNN timeline is great. And what a list of horrors.

by Anonymousreply 163July 17, 2022 2:46 PM

Maybe Sonny showed up home unexpectedly, while Paw was otherwise engaged...

by Anonymousreply 164July 17, 2022 2:51 PM

Just say 'Buster,' r159.

by Anonymousreply 165July 17, 2022 4:29 PM

[quote]Sorry, [R122]…what’s your “oh dear” for?

Your spelling of judgment.

by Anonymousreply 166July 17, 2022 7:10 PM

Two different guns. Anyone have an explanation for that?

by Anonymousreply 167July 17, 2022 7:21 PM

Maybe Sonny had one and Paw used both of them, ultimately. There COULD have been an accomplice, but it just seems so unlikely given the family scenario, and the fact that Paw was a lawyer and certainly would have known that he could never again trust anyone who had a hand in this. (THIS is what supports the idea that the roadside "suicide" via hit-man was REALLY going to be a murder and burning of the "accomplice," in Paw's "self-defense," to shore up Paw's contention that THAT victim MUST be the true killer of Maw and Sonny. It was a bungled attempt to put the blame elsewhere.)

by Anonymousreply 168July 17, 2022 7:26 PM

R167- Maybe to make it look like there were two shooters that night? But I think he shot Paul with the shotgun at close range, Maggie turned to run and he used the AR to shoot her from more of a distance. He then walked up to her as she was lying face down on the ground and shot her again in the back of the head. Paul was at the kennel videotaping a friend's sick dog that was being looked after there. The dog belonged to a friend of theirs. That is how Paul inadvertently recorded Alex and Maggie talking to each by the kennel at the time of the murders. Maggie had been persuaded by Alex to meet him at Moselle to visit her father-in-law because he was dying. He died three days later.

by Anonymousreply 169July 17, 2022 7:30 PM

[quote]He then walked up to her as she was lying face down on the ground and shot her again in the back of the head.

Was he heard to say, “You should’ve kept your fucking mouth shut”?

by Anonymousreply 170July 17, 2022 7:33 PM

R169, why wouldn’t she just meet him at the hospital, where both patient and father were?

Sorry, none of this makes sense. I’m not picking on you or your theory.

I don’t even trust that the police investigated properly.

by Anonymousreply 171July 17, 2022 7:34 PM

Alex Murdaugh Lured Estranged Wife Maggie to Lodge the Night She & Her Son Were Murdered: Sources. Article at link.

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by Anonymousreply 172July 17, 2022 7:34 PM

I wonder why Pa didn't just skip the murder plans when he realized that Paul was at the house. Or postpone them.

She must have given him an ultimatum within Paul's hearing.

by Anonymousreply 173July 17, 2022 7:35 PM

Never say multiple homicide will wipe the cheerful smile off Nancy Grace's face!

by Anonymousreply 174July 17, 2022 7:36 PM

R171- She agreed to see him at the hospital, she was going to meet Alex at Moselle and follow him there in her car.

by Anonymousreply 175July 17, 2022 7:37 PM

173- Paul was intentional, imo. Big Daddy was about to take his last breath and Paul and Maggie were about to inherit a chunk of money. However, if an unfortunate accident occured the inheritance of both would then go to Alex. That is what I believe.

by Anonymousreply 176July 17, 2022 7:40 PM

It makes a lot of sense.

by Anonymousreply 177July 17, 2022 8:05 PM

Accused killer Alex Murdaugh compared to Charles Manson, Ted Bundy. The lawyer for for the family of Gloria Satterfield — the dead housekeeper in South Carolina whose heirs successfully sued her boss, accused murderer Alex Murdaugh — said Friday that Murdaugh is in so much trouble that he might be be better off dead himself.

“I would never advocate anyone committing suicide but in Alex’s case he has ruined so many people’s lives already and there’s so much more coming,” Eric Bland, the Columbia, SC attorney representing the Satterfield family, told The Post.

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by Anonymousreply 178July 17, 2022 8:20 PM

I knew that the bodies of Paul and his mother were found many yards apart but they said last night on the updated 48 Hours that he was found half in/half out of the kennel and she appeared to have been trying to run back to the house. I hadn't heard that before.

by Anonymousreply 179July 17, 2022 8:33 PM

R179: I believe she shot near the equipment shed with the red roof as she was attempting to flee. Reportedly half of Paul's head was blown off and Maggie was shot with an assault rifle and 300 blackout ammo. Just brutal overkill and rage.

by Anonymousreply 180July 17, 2022 8:47 PM

R180- Was shot.

by Anonymousreply 181July 17, 2022 8:47 PM

He's *quite* a guy, that Paw.

by Anonymousreply 182July 17, 2022 8:48 PM

Can y'all send me some $$$ on GoFundMe? Now that daddy's in jail I'm practically an orphan

by Anonymousreply 183July 17, 2022 9:24 PM

Thanks, Alex! Now I no longer have the title of South Carolina's Biggest Piece of Shit

by Anonymousreply 184July 17, 2022 9:25 PM

I want to know did Pa also kill Stephen Smith. And was Buster involved in that murder and his mother and brother's?

by Anonymousreply 185July 17, 2022 9:59 PM

Murdaugh's crimes seem to have been financially motivated, and the one thing I don't see, is a way for Murdaugh to make money off the death of Stephen Smith.

So his death doesn't really fit the pattern of all the other Murdaugh-related crimes, unless the poor kid knew something that could cost Murdaugh money. So what gives there? Did the kid know something that Murdaugh needed keeping quiet, or was there some sort of sexual motive?

by Anonymousreply 186July 18, 2022 12:00 AM

I wish the media would cool it with this story, I’m tiring of it.

by Anonymousreply 187July 18, 2022 12:03 AM

Ok, Buster.

by Anonymousreply 188July 18, 2022 12:27 AM

R186, Murdaugh didn’t just commit crimes for money, he also covered up family “mistakes” that might cost the family. The boat accident is an example of that. The death of Stephen Smith might have been another “unfortunate accident” that would have tested the limits of the family’s finances.

by Anonymousreply 189July 18, 2022 12:36 AM

Didn't Murdaugh sound sorry or sad that Paul was killed? It does seem that Paul was killed because he was a liability or knew too much.

by Anonymousreply 190July 18, 2022 12:50 AM

[quote] Larry Joe Campbell, the fat guy from “According to Jim.”

He resembles Pa Murdaugh so closely he should probably be glad he wasn’t arrested in his place.

by Anonymousreply 191July 18, 2022 2:17 AM

R159, your usage of ALL CAPS for EMPHASIS marks you as a FRAUCUNT.

by Anonymousreply 192July 18, 2022 2:29 AM

R178 that attorney is an idiot. Pa alive is more valuable for his clients.

by Anonymousreply 193July 18, 2022 6:43 AM

R193 You must be crazy? He was stealing his clients' money. If they got a normal attorney they would get much better outcomes AND the attoney wouldn't be killing their loved ones to get their custom!

by Anonymousreply 194July 18, 2022 7:31 AM

The clients of the new attorney, Rose. Whose job it is to claw back as much money as he can from Pa. Which gets harder if Pa offs himself.

by Anonymousreply 195July 18, 2022 9:57 AM

Lawyer dynasties are known for the numerous fuck-ups and black sheep. Being forced to become a lawyer, because you’re expected to take over daddy’s firm, is a nightmare if you don’t have the talent or your interests and talents lie somewhere else.

by Anonymousreply 196July 18, 2022 11:17 AM

Boy, Buster is quite the porker.

by Anonymousreply 197July 18, 2022 4:30 PM

You're lyin, you're lying, I've never been so thin.

by Anonymousreply 198July 18, 2022 4:34 PM

It's not clear to me that Paul was also targeted or he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. IIRC, Paw could be heard saying something like "Oh, Paul, why did you have to?" on the 911 tape. Did this suggest he hadn't anticipated his son being at Moselle to care for the sick dog? If Paul was found a distance apart from his mother's body, his body half in, half out of the kennel, does this mean he didn't try to come to his mother's aid when he heard fighting and gunshots?

by Anonymousreply 199July 18, 2022 4:58 PM

Have they named who the dogs Paul was taking care of for? It’s hard to believe anyone woukd admit to being friends with him at that point.

by Anonymousreply 200July 18, 2022 5:43 PM

[quote]Have they named who the dogs Paul was taking care of for?

Come again.

by Anonymousreply 201July 18, 2022 5:55 PM

Maybe Paul was only at Moselle to take care of his friend’s sick dog?

Can you imagine being that friend? Granted, Paul sounds like he needed killin’ but that’s still a heavy burden.

by Anonymousreply 202July 18, 2022 7:26 PM

[quote]This cunt did everything except rape the dog and set fire to the post office.

Trial hasn't started. There's hope.

by Anonymousreply 203July 18, 2022 7:35 PM

That makes sense R199.

Alex had Ma meet him at an isolated building, soneehat removed from the main house. Confrontation (and the planned murder), were to have happen out of earshot, allowing Alex to say, incontrovertibly to LE, he’d just come home from his father’s bedside to find his wife dead.

However, unbeknownst to Pa, Paul happened to be out checking on his friend’s dog. He was just emerging from the kennel into all the commotion.

Much as he might have loved him, Alex couldn’t risk what Paul had heard, seen or might say to the police.

So he blew him away.

by Anonymousreply 204July 18, 2022 9:49 PM

Then why did Alex have two guns on him?

by Anonymousreply 205July 18, 2022 9:50 PM

[quote]Granted, Paul sounds like he needed killin’

In the south, before any charges are entertained, that’s the first thing the sheriff asks at a homicide scene. “Did he need killin’?”

by Anonymousreply 206July 18, 2022 10:04 PM

[quote]Then why did Alex have two guns on him?

Pure speculation, but my guess is he was going to kill his wife with two guns, making it appear as though there were two shooters.

The man was not the sharpest knife in the spoon drawer.

by Anonymousreply 207July 18, 2022 10:05 PM

We're the guns ever found?

by Anonymousreply 208July 18, 2022 10:57 PM

How much knowledge or inkling did she have about the extent of her husband's depravity?

by Anonymousreply 209July 18, 2022 11:05 PM

Supposedly she'd hired a forensic accountant so she probably had an inkling about the finances and it was why she was killed.

by Anonymousreply 210July 18, 2022 11:30 PM

This case is so boring. Stop trying to make it more interesting.

by Anonymousreply 211July 18, 2022 11:35 PM

maybe Alex had more than one gun out. Killed his wife with one. Discovered Paul and grabbed a different gun to kill him with. Just thinking of a different scenario.

by Anonymousreply 212July 18, 2022 11:40 PM

R72 - My hypothesis about what happened to the maid: Paw was getting home early morning either loaded or hungover and accidentally hits her as she's arriving for her work day. Noticing how severe her injuries are, he panics, brings her into the house, and clumsily lays her out on the stairs. He goes off to shower. Ma and Paul wake up and discover her. By that time Paw's showered and dressed, claiming he came back from the office to get something.

R210 -. I meant more about the meth manufacturing, egregious embezzling, and that he was capable of murder. I guess she didn't think he was capable of killing her

by Anonymousreply 213July 18, 2022 11:52 PM

R213 Nah, that's convoluted. In my opinion the simpler explanation is that Alex needed/wanted money and saw killing her as a way to claim a big insurance pay out.

by Anonymousreply 214July 18, 2022 11:59 PM

R214 go write an unsuccessful book on it

by Anonymousreply 215July 19, 2022 12:00 AM

R215 I see that you're the person who also posted:

[quote]I wish the media would cool it with this story, I’m tiring of it.

and

[quote]This case is so boring. Stop trying to make it more interesting.

I get it: YOU are not interested in this case. But others are. Just ignore or scroll past. Why are you trying to bully other people into not being interested in it? It won't work anyway.

by Anonymousreply 216July 19, 2022 12:04 AM

I keep watching the news updates on this story and everyone and his grandma wants it to be a twisted complicated tale. It’s not. It’s peculiar but it’s not anymore that what you’ve seen and isn’t gonna be.

by Anonymousreply 217July 19, 2022 12:08 AM

R217 It's very twisted and unusual. A lawyer killing people to steal insurance pay outs from clients and then progresses it to his own family. That's unusual for sure. Again, seriously, why even open this thread. Just scroll past. I scroll past threads I'm not interested in.

by Anonymousreply 218July 19, 2022 12:12 AM

R212: According to rumors/leaks from insiders police have the shotgun used on Paul, it was found at the crime scene, but they aren't saying if they have recovered the weapon used on Maggie. When Alex attempted to pin the murders on Cousin by making it look as if Cousin tried to kill Alex and poor ole Red had no choice except to blow cousins head off like poor Maggie and Paul were done, it was with the AR used on Maggie. Of course Cousin Eddie, not being the trusting type, took the gun from Alex and shot him, grazing his head. It is thought that when Eddie was locked up this last time, dope sick and unable to make bond, he told them exactly where they could find the assault rifle used on Maggie. Paul Murdaugh was reportedly missing half of his head. Maggie was shot in the back and once face down on the ground shot twice in the head. She was basically decapitated as well.

by Anonymousreply 219July 19, 2022 12:15 AM

AM summoned his wife to the property that night. How the son's death figures into this is less clear.

by Anonymousreply 220July 19, 2022 12:18 AM

[quote]it was with the AR

He used an AR on his wife?!?! Whoa, talk about overkill and stupidity. Of course, there was blood spatter on him. A non-automatic smaller caliber weapon would have sufficed for a killing, they're easier to conceal, throw away, etc.

by Anonymousreply 221July 19, 2022 12:21 AM

[quote]When Alex attempted to pin the murders on Cousin by making it look as if Cousin tried to kill Alex and poor ole Red had no choice except to blow cousins head off like poor Maggie and Paul were done, it was with the AR used on Maggie.

You wanna try this again?

by Anonymousreply 222July 19, 2022 12:21 AM

R220- You are right, it isn't known if AM knew Paul was there, but I find it very difficult to believe that he wasn't aware of Paul's presence that night. Paul was videotaping a sick dog at the kennel and was close enough to Alex and Maggie to inadvertently record the two talking by the kennels. Anything is possible though.

by Anonymousreply 223July 19, 2022 12:22 AM

R222: Alex claimed he paid his cousin Eddie to shoot him to death because he ( Alex) wanted to die but he wanted Buster to receive the life insurance benefit from AM's policy.

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by Anonymousreply 224July 19, 2022 12:27 AM

When did Ann-Margret figure in the story?

by Anonymousreply 225July 19, 2022 12:28 AM

R223, I agree that it’s likely that Alex knew Paul was there from the beginning. The bodies of Paul and his mother were found close to each other. That means that if Alex cared so much about Paul, all he had to do was hold off on his plans to kill his wife. But I guess Alex did not have much impulse control.

by Anonymousreply 226July 19, 2022 12:40 AM

He wanted Maggie dead before Peepaw Murdaugh croaked.

by Anonymousreply 227July 19, 2022 12:41 AM

R227 Why though?

by Anonymousreply 228July 19, 2022 12:43 AM

I hope to hell if I’m murdered and they can’t find the assailant you amateur sleuths will try every and any hare brained theory until they find the perp.

by Anonymousreply 229July 19, 2022 12:44 AM

The original story story was that Maggie and Paul were living at Moselle, the hunting lodge. But I read recently that they weren't and Alex asked Maggie to meet him there to discuss the problems they were having. She took Paul along because she didn't didn't feel safe alone with Alex. She even texted a friend that night saying something was "fishy."

Also, Alex repeatedly told LE that he hadn't seen Maggie that day. But there was a video of a dog in the kennels on Paul's phone made that night and in the background you can clearly hear Alex and Maggie arguing. They don't appear on camera but are heard fighting. Also, Alex's clothes were covered with blood splatter. Not big spots as if from holding or trying to revive a body, but classic splatter patterns as if made from a shotgun shooting someone.

by Anonymousreply 230July 19, 2022 12:47 AM

R227, unless his father’s will was unusual, everything would have gone to Alex and his brother. The Mrs. wouldn’t have inherited independently and she wouldn’t have been legally entitled to a part of the inheritance.

by Anonymousreply 231July 19, 2022 12:49 AM

they weren't divorced yet.

by Anonymousreply 232July 19, 2022 12:50 AM

R228- A bigger chunk of Daddy's inheritance. But I believe he killed Paul because of the upcoming court case from the fatal boating accident. It was not only going to cost Alex money, it would have revealed his financial crimes. The same for Maggie filing for divorce and having a forensic audit done.

by Anonymousreply 233July 19, 2022 12:54 AM

Alex didn't know Paul would be there. Maggie brought him with her because she was afraid to be alone with Alex.

by Anonymousreply 234July 19, 2022 12:57 AM

How the hell was sniveling brat Paul supposed to protect her? If she really thought Ellick was a danger, she should have Kept Pail away / protected him.

Mother of the year.

by Anonymousreply 235July 19, 2022 1:01 AM

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by Anonymousreply 236July 19, 2022 1:04 AM

SLED (South Carolina Law Enforcement Division) and the AG released all kinds of new and updated info when Alex was charged the double murders. There's been all kinds of news articles about it and 48 Hours included a lot of it when they ran an updated episode about the cases last Saturday night.

by Anonymousreply 237July 19, 2022 1:11 AM

Maggie did not want to go to Moselle. She sent texts to three of her friends that evening stating that she didn't trust Alex and that he was up to something. She should have followed her instinct. She reportedly did not like to be at Moselle because of how isolated it is. It gets very black dark at night in the low country and Moselle is surrounded by swampland and very few neighbors. Cell phone reception is difficult to get as well. I find it very creepy, myself.

by Anonymousreply 238July 19, 2022 1:19 AM

^Sounds like you’re familiar with SC. Why didn’t dumbo Alex get in good with the state’s political elite when he had the chance? He could be sunning on the beach in Hilton Head today if he had.

by Anonymousreply 239July 19, 2022 1:37 AM

This is just one of his defense attorneys.

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by Anonymousreply 240July 19, 2022 1:44 AM

I group Pa wanted to kill Paul who became a liability and make it look as if the killed girl’s family was behind it. And Ma came in between and she had to go.

by Anonymousreply 241July 19, 2022 1:45 AM

R241- I think you are right. I believe he wanted to kill Maggie and make it look like Paul was the target and Ma was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I also believe that is why two different weapons were used. But I think he really wanted to be rid of both of them. Paul was a sociopathic alcoholic who was not going to stop causing trouble. Maggie was leaving him. Maybe he was a family annihilator, idk.

by Anonymousreply 242July 19, 2022 1:50 AM

That is the most hideous looking family I have ever seen.

by Anonymousreply 243July 19, 2022 1:51 AM

Again, he lured Maggie to the hunting lodge but he didn't know she was bringing Paul with her. He didn't know Paul would be there.

by Anonymousreply 244July 19, 2022 1:54 AM

John Marvin knew Paul would be there. ( AM's brother). In fact , he asked Paul to go to Moselle to be with Maggie. 🤷‍♀️. I believe he knew. He wanted everyone to think the murders were the result of revenge on Paul for the death of Mallory Beach from the boating accident.

by Anonymousreply 245July 19, 2022 1:59 AM

You think John Marvin was in on the murders?

That would be shocking.

by Anonymousreply 246July 19, 2022 4:06 AM

[quote]A non-automatic smaller caliber weapon would have sufficed for a killing, they're easier to conceal, throw away, etc.

Yes, but they don't give the same thrilling sense of machismo and power as one slides one's hand up and down the barrel rhythmically.

by Anonymousreply 247July 19, 2022 4:57 AM

This story exemplifies why people hate the south. The Murdaughs probably sneered at poors.

Mofo, you’re cooking meth and murdering maids.

by Anonymousreply 248July 19, 2022 5:02 AM

R248, he reminds me of the head honcho in Stephen King's "Under the Dome" only less believable.

by Anonymousreply 249July 19, 2022 5:07 AM

"Why didn’t dumbo Alex get in good with the state’s political elite when he had the chance? "

Alex was too small-time to be of interest to the state's political elite, he was nothing but a small-time crooked lawyer, whose influence ended at the county line. And he didn't have the brains, guts, charisma, or money to interest anyone outside his petty spere of influence. No, all he ever did was piss away the influence he inherited.

by Anonymousreply 250July 19, 2022 9:51 AM

I watched that 48 Hours special. Those family photos they kept showing did what they were supposed to do...UNTIL the boat crash. Then you remember what a spoiled piece of shit that kid was. I wonder if the mother was a piece of work OR did she pop oxys all day.

by Anonymousreply 251July 19, 2022 12:03 PM

One thing I remember about Maggie was that the florist in town said she was very particular and she loved pink flowers. That was the nicest thing anyone said about her in the interview.

by Anonymousreply 252July 19, 2022 12:06 PM

I think the florist said Maggie hated pink flowers?

by Anonymousreply 253July 19, 2022 12:28 PM

Missus Maggie!

by Anonymousreply 254July 19, 2022 12:38 PM

Just to be clear about the Stephen Smith case. He was a gay nurse with a much older, wealthy boyfriend. Stephen was also using his position as a nurse to deal drugs. He died from blows to the head that were not consistent with being struck by a car. Is this correct?

by Anonymousreply 255July 19, 2022 12:53 PM

R242 makes a LOT of sense. Since I am confident Paw is going to end this process with a guilty plea (unless he is sensibly able to figure out a way to kill himself in jail), I hope the Judge in his murder case(s) will force him to make a complete confession as to just exactly how and why he committed these murders. Certainly Mrs. Murdaugh's family is entitled to know at least that much.

by Anonymousreply 256July 19, 2022 1:01 PM

This is the first I’m hearing about Stephen Smith dealing drugs. I haven’t followed that part of the story too closely— it is too sad.

by Anonymousreply 257July 19, 2022 1:02 PM

R242, Paw himself was a sociopathic drug-addicted asshole, so Paul being the same should have not been a worry, overall.

by Anonymousreply 258July 19, 2022 1:18 PM

R253, You’re right! I got that wrong. Sorry, Miss Maggie. Hope they didn’t put any pink flowers on your casket.

by Anonymousreply 259July 19, 2022 3:08 PM

R257, I don’t think I’d heard that about Stephen Smith, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I know he was only in nursing school, but I personally know two nurses who lost their licenses because they were stealing drugs for personal use or sale (or both). This was back when they didn’t have as many controls, of course, but.

by Anonymousreply 260July 19, 2022 3:10 PM

That's the first I have heard of Stephen dealing drugs. I did hear that he was a sex worker.

He went out to Hilton Head to hook up with an older man just before he died. The man told the police "no money changed hands." Seemed an odd thing to volunteer and immediately made me think that money had indeed changed hands.

by Anonymousreply 261July 19, 2022 3:15 PM

[quote]He didn't know Paul would be there.

I'm unsure if he knew Paul would be there before Alex arrived. But he knew Paul was there BEFORE the murders. Apparently, the police have a video of Alex and Maggie taken by Paul just before the murders.

So if Alex didn't want to kill Paul, too, he would have just chosen another time to kill Maggie.

by Anonymousreply 262July 19, 2022 3:19 PM

R257, the coroner said that the death was a hit and run, but the police officers who first saw the body thought that his head had been hit repeatedly by a blunt instrument. I’ve never read that he dealt drugs; maybe it was something that came up in the police interviews.

by Anonymousreply 263July 19, 2022 3:30 PM

[quote]the police have a video of Alex and Maggie taken by Paul just before the murders.

There's audio but no video. Paul took phone video of a dog in the kennels and they can be heard arguing in the background. The phone was on Paul's body. It's important because Alex repeatedly told LE that he never saw Maggie that day before he found the bodies.

by Anonymousreply 264July 19, 2022 3:34 PM

R263, a lot about the case is murky. Was the older man his boyfriend or a client? Was he selling drugs? Did he do drugs? Why did he pluck is eyebrows like a drag queen?

by Anonymousreply 265July 19, 2022 3:35 PM

I am so utterly fascinated by this case. My parents recently moved to Beaufort, SC and I am proposing a “Murdaugh Murder Tour” at Christmas this year.

DL is better than established cold case units. We were right about almost every element of the Soft Butch Sous Chef case. I believe someone who posted here directly contributed to solving the case (their friend had fucked the murdered lawyer years before his murder and he provided the victim’s Craigslist email to the police).

by Anonymousreply 266July 19, 2022 3:46 PM

You’re correct, r266.

by Anonymousreply 267July 19, 2022 6:57 PM

If Stephen Smith was indeed dealing drugs, then he would have had a reason to meet Paul Murdaugh, but believe me a student nurse doesn't get a chance to grab enough drugs to steal. I went to nursing school and started working 20-odd years ago, and every single narcotic was controlled and counted.

The only nurses I know who lost his license for stealing drugs didn't steal enough to deal, he just stole a few half-pills or drops of morphine here and there, because he had chronic back pain due to an on-the-job injury. And that's why I got the fuck out and got a desk job when I could.

by Anonymousreply 268July 19, 2022 9:18 PM

Weird that people are attacking Stephen Smith by spreading unverified rumors about him, instead of focusing on the Murdaughs....

by Anonymousreply 269July 19, 2022 9:20 PM

Agreed, R269. Is Buster here?

by Anonymousreply 270July 19, 2022 9:30 PM

PawPaw pings.

by Anonymousreply 271July 19, 2022 10:00 PM

Was Pa sexing Stephen Smith?

by Anonymousreply 272July 19, 2022 10:27 PM

R269, I was not attacking anyone. As I wrote, the Stephen Smith case is murky. *A lot* of unanswered questions, including what was his connection to the Murdaughs. Just seeking clarity.

by Anonymousreply 273July 19, 2022 11:25 PM

My guess is that Paw asked Maw to come out to the the hunting lodge.

Maw does, with Paul.

Paw grits his teeth and tries to play nicey-nice.

Maw has had it with him and calls his bluff in front of Paul - or tells Paw that she'll tell the kids exactly what their old man is up to.

Paw realizes that there's no way to keep Paul in the dark anymore and so kills both of them.

by Anonymousreply 274July 20, 2022 12:25 AM

Nah. He intended to kill both.

by Anonymousreply 275July 20, 2022 12:28 AM

Paul Murdaugh was a psychopath like his murderous Daddy. Right after the boat crash while Mallory was missing Paul was laughing and smirking about it to her distraught boyfriend. Maggie was a pretentious bitch who looked down her nose at anyone not in their income bracket. Her housekeeper/nanny who helped raise her son's was homeless more than once and that heartless bitch did nothing.

by Anonymousreply 276July 20, 2022 12:50 AM

[quote]who helped raise her son's

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 277July 20, 2022 12:54 AM

Maggie was a rich Karen.

by Anonymousreply 278July 20, 2022 1:10 AM

^^^I haven't followed this case that closely. The maid was homeless while being employed by the Murdaughs? I had assumed their maid was a live in. Wow. What trash these people are.

by Anonymousreply 279July 20, 2022 1:15 AM

R279- Yes and they paid her next to nothing. They never visited her once when she was in the hospital after falling on the stairs or their house. Then AM swindled her sons out of the insurance payment from the fall. Many think AM murdered her as well. Steven Smith had a 7 inch wound to his head. At first it was thought that he was shot. No debris from another vehicle was found near him. This is the first time I have ever heard anything about Steven dealing drugs.

by Anonymousreply 280July 20, 2022 1:27 AM

This thread is EVERYTHING. Are ya'll getting this additional information online somewhere or watching some documentary?

by Anonymousreply 281July 20, 2022 11:15 AM

R280, the dealing drugs angle was mentioned in a previous thread. It would make sense as it makes a connection to the Murdaughs. Drugs are a thread throughout this mess. I can't remember if that was based on any facts though. AM/Pa/Paw/ Alex does not seem a likely suspect in Stephen's murder. It seems more like something Paul would have done in an alcoholic rage. Yet another mess Paul made that his father had to clean up. At least initially, Paul was also assumed to be behind the death of the housekeeper. Paul was known to be a very violent drunk and to flip out over the littlest thing when drunk. The question that still begs an answer is, "What was Stephen's connection with the Murdaughs ?"

Interesting that everyone jumps on the drug comment but seems to be fine with the speculation that he was a sex worker.

by Anonymousreply 282July 20, 2022 11:20 AM

Minor side point but the maid was homeless? Where were her sons? The ones that just received the huge settlement?

Maybe they were ALL homeless.

by Anonymousreply 283July 20, 2022 12:06 PM

She wasn't homeless.

by Anonymousreply 284July 20, 2022 12:36 PM

Homelessness can mean couch surfing. Although I don't know whether she was or not.

by Anonymousreply 285July 20, 2022 12:48 PM

According to newspaper articles, their maid was indeed homeless during her employment.

Several people told police that the Murdaugh boys were behind Sephen Smith's death. And others said that they heard that Buster was in a relationship with him.

by Anonymousreply 286July 20, 2022 2:33 PM

Stephen Smith was not a nurse, he was a nursing student, and that could describe anything from an RN to the bedpan engineer. He had no access to drugs that an average person wouldn't have had, and there is no mention, besides on a few threads here, that there is any suspicion that he was dealing drugs.

by Anonymousreply 287July 20, 2022 3:24 PM

Buster was fucking Stephen on the downlow.

by Anonymousreply 288July 20, 2022 3:28 PM

It's a love story: Buster and Stephen! (I'm a little skeptical but it is possible of course,)

by Anonymousreply 289July 20, 2022 3:44 PM

Alex was just denied bond.

His attorney said he wants a speedy trial so he can find the real killers. Just like OJ.

Alex shaved his hair off. Someone worried about a drug test?

by Anonymousreply 290July 20, 2022 3:50 PM

[quote] they heard that Buster was in a relationship with him.

Buster? The porker?

Oh, poor Stephen.

by Anonymousreply 291July 20, 2022 5:09 PM

R291 That is why I'm skeptical. Surely Stephen could do better than Buster. Unless the Murdaugh money and status was enough of a draw.

by Anonymousreply 292July 20, 2022 5:12 PM

Maybe Buster has a thick cock. Or maybe it was the fire bush.

by Anonymousreply 293July 20, 2022 5:20 PM

Buster and Stephen were both show queens.

by Anonymousreply 294July 20, 2022 7:42 PM

Pa Murdaugh looked like FUCKING HELL today in court. He's lost a ton of weight.

Is jail food that bad, or is he going for the Jodi Arias "too skinny to kill anyone" look?

by Anonymousreply 295July 20, 2022 8:26 PM

Facing the death penalty for bumping off half your family - and possibly the maid as well - plays havoc with one's appetite.

by Anonymousreply 296July 20, 2022 8:29 PM

Just to dispel so much speculation and nattering, here's a link to another recap of Alex's plight after today's proceedings.

Link is about Alex, not Paul the housekeeper, the dead, boating crash girl or the nurse-in-training who was either turning tricks for cash with older me or dealing drugs.

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by Anonymousreply 297July 20, 2022 8:36 PM

[quote]was either turning tricks for cash with older me

Do tell!

by Anonymousreply 298July 20, 2022 8:41 PM

The fact that the defense stipulated to no bond so that the State would not have to release any evidence--AND asked for a gag order--proves that they know the evidence against their client is damning.

by Anonymousreply 299July 20, 2022 8:45 PM

Is there any benefit to his pleading not guilty in the face of what sounds like a guillotine blade of a case against him?

by Anonymousreply 300July 20, 2022 8:53 PM

Can't remember exactly where I heard it - probably on the Mandy Matney "Murdaugh Murders" podcast, where I've gotten most of my information about this case...

But apparently Maggie was very materialistic too and very competitive with her older sister, who married into a wealthier family and lived a life that seemed more glamorous than Maggie's rural, small-town SC life.

Maggie was also an overly-indulgent mother - who laughed when her children did bad things, like beat-up other children. Paul and Buster were reportedly well-known for using the phrase "mother fucker" from the time they were toddlers, which Maggie thought was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 301July 20, 2022 9:09 PM

I have the same question as r300. I also wonder how much money he has to mount a defense.

by Anonymousreply 302July 20, 2022 9:12 PM

Have they checked the areas for owls?

by Anonymousreply 303July 20, 2022 9:12 PM

[quote]Link is about Alex, not Paul the housekeeper,

The housekeeper’s name was Paul too? What a coincidence!

by Anonymousreply 304July 20, 2022 9:13 PM

[quote]Is there any benefit to his pleading not guilty in the face of what sounds like a guillotine blade of a case against him?

I imagine he wanted to say that in open court as theater for the sake of his family, particularly son.

I think Alex paid his attorneys a large retainer from the money he stole from his housekeeper's estate.

That money must be running out. But I suspect that Alex has hidden money squirreled away.

Some of the jail house calls with his son sounded as if they were talking in code. He asked if his attorney "knew how to facilitate a dove hunt at Moselle." He also asked if Buster needed to hunt at Moselle. I think he may have buried (or otherwise hidden) money at Moselle and "hunting" there is code for getting some of it.

by Anonymousreply 305July 20, 2022 9:16 PM

Mallory Beach seems like an unfortunate name for her.

by Anonymousreply 306July 20, 2022 9:21 PM

[quote]I think he may have buried (or otherwise hidden) money at Moselle and "hunting" there is code for getting some of it.

There’s always money in the banana stand.

by Anonymousreply 307July 20, 2022 9:26 PM

R306 They should have checked the cabins on the shore.

by Anonymousreply 308July 20, 2022 10:09 PM

[quote]Mallory Beach seems like an unfortunate name for her.

Especially since her middle name was Washedupona

by Anonymousreply 309July 20, 2022 10:09 PM

There’s something wrong with you.

And me, for pissing myself over that.

by Anonymousreply 310July 20, 2022 10:20 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 311July 20, 2022 10:47 PM

When did PA turn into Rick "Batboy" Scott?

by Anonymousreply 312July 20, 2022 11:14 PM

Washita Oona Beach.

Buster is still charged with giving Paul his license which he used to buy alcohol at a bar in Beaufort before driving the boat into bridge pylons. And I will think Alex is still being legally pursued as the owner of the boat. Will these cases be heard in court before the murder or embezzlement charges since they were filed first? Or maybe Mallory's family won't pursue knowing the Murdaugh coffers are empty and they don't want to rack up more legal expenses? Buster is knee deep somehow, but he probably doesn't have a pot to piss in now.

by Anonymousreply 313July 20, 2022 11:18 PM

From the Daily Mail: “Rumors that Murdaugh was having an affair with a fellow attorney have been widely circulated both locally and online.”

I don’t believe I’ve heard that before. Maybe I just missed it. And Paul does indeed look a lot thinner in the photos.

by Anonymousreply 314July 20, 2022 11:22 PM

^would think, not will

by Anonymousreply 315July 20, 2022 11:23 PM

Alex, not Paul. Need edit button!

by Anonymousreply 316July 20, 2022 11:24 PM

Male or female attorney.

by Anonymousreply 317July 20, 2022 11:25 PM

They go by ze and zir, R317.

by Anonymousreply 318July 20, 2022 11:28 PM

His attorneys MUST be representing him for free, just for the tv coverage/publicitiy. Paw hasn't got a pot to piss in at this point, nothing with his name on it actually belongs to him. He's functionally destitute.

by Anonymousreply 319July 20, 2022 11:45 PM

Did everyone in the Courtroom, including the Judge, let out a loud collective >>HISS<< when Paw entered the room?

by Anonymousreply 320July 20, 2022 11:48 PM

For a case as serious as this, they plead "not guilty" in order to have time and space to wrangle a guilty plea that is most favorable to them, if they are convinced that fighting conviction is a waste of time. (There is also the question of how much of their precious time is worth wasting "defending" Paw, since it would certainly seem that he's got NOTHING to pay them with, nothing that couldn't be clawed back from him by other outraged creditors). If the evidence is as strong as it seems to be, I imagine Murdaugh will face the death penalty in SC, and so he's likely to get an offer: 1) Plead guilty and get life without parole (conditioned on providing FULL cooperation in clearing up ALL the other fucked up criminality he's associated with at this point), or 2) Go to a jury trial and face the death sentence. Offer no. 1 MIGHT be conditioned on getting Maggie's family's permission, but prosecutors can usually wrangle that if the defendant is willing to accept that kind of a deal.

by Anonymousreply 321July 20, 2022 11:58 PM

^And Paw's general behavior reflects VERY badly on the legal profession and so the prosecutors and the Court system have a kind of "side" incentive to get him to go away as swiftly and quietly and permanently as possible.

by Anonymousreply 322July 21, 2022 12:00 AM

Man, I've been drinking, and I'm fantasizing about a Senatrice/Buster angle. That would be so delicious. Unfortunately, Miz Linz is known to like BBC.

by Anonymousreply 323July 21, 2022 1:01 AM

Based on much earlier photos, Fatty Low-Country Paw Dad looks like he’s shedded sixty pounds or more. Is he trying to starve himself or cause some health complications?

I hope they keep him on a close suicide watch. Cheating everyone out of a trial and conviction could be his parting fuck you on the world.

by Anonymousreply 324July 21, 2022 1:15 AM

Is it possible he was stupid enough to wear an Apple Watch the night of the murders?

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by Anonymousreply 325July 21, 2022 1:16 AM

[quote]His attorneys MUST be representing him for free, just for the tv coverage/publicitiy. Paw hasn't got a pot to piss in at this point, nothing with his name on it actually belongs to him. He's functionally destitute.

They were his son's attorney in the boat crash case--before Alex's world collapsed.

He gave them a lot of the money he stole from his housekeeper's estate.

And Alex has money squirreled away, either buried at Moselle of transferred overseas. He's only pretending to be poor to avoid judgments and the receivers.

by Anonymousreply 326July 21, 2022 1:16 AM

His ginger locks have turned white!

by Anonymousreply 327July 21, 2022 1:17 AM

R327- His head was shaved. Nasty outbreak of lice in his pod?

by Anonymousreply 328July 21, 2022 1:18 AM

^Facing the electric chair can probably do that for you in no time.

by Anonymousreply 329July 21, 2022 1:19 AM

Buster and his hunting buddies. This is about 10 years old and as far as I know it isn't shopped.

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by Anonymousreply 330July 21, 2022 2:12 AM

The Lifetime movie:

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by Anonymousreply 331July 21, 2022 2:14 AM

How is it possible that an attorney was not aware of high velocity blood splatter? Even if he’s not a criminal defense attorney you’d think he would understand the basic concept. Did he not even bother to change his shirt?

by Anonymousreply 332July 21, 2022 2:16 AM

R332 - why would he bother? Hey, it worked for Jackie Kennedy.

by Anonymousreply 333July 21, 2022 2:17 AM

R331 - lol!!!

by Anonymousreply 334July 21, 2022 2:21 AM

South Carolina banking scion Russell Laffitte indicted for helping Alex Murdaugh steal from clients

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by Anonymousreply 335July 21, 2022 2:31 AM

That photo of Buster and his hunting buddies is amazing. It’s like the cover of a nasty VHS tape found in the back room of a convenience store.

by Anonymousreply 336July 21, 2022 2:38 AM

R335, “Château Laffitte”

by Anonymousreply 337July 21, 2022 2:42 AM

Don't trust your soul to no backwoods Southern lawyer

by Anonymousreply 338July 21, 2022 4:13 AM

Russel LUCIUS Lafitte

He should be indicted for that name alone.

by Anonymousreply 339July 21, 2022 4:35 AM

Is there a relationship with the wine company

by Anonymousreply 340July 21, 2022 4:40 AM

Certainly NOT.

by Anonymousreply 341July 21, 2022 4:43 AM

R339, Lucius is a very common name until about fifty years ago in the upper classes in the south. One of those Greek or Latin names that got used often.

by Anonymousreply 342July 21, 2022 5:21 AM

R342, AND?

I am ninth generation SW Georgia, I assure you I understand the south and more specifically the “plantation” mentality.

by Anonymousreply 343July 21, 2022 5:29 AM

They why R343, if you’re so familiar with the South, do you consider a name plucked from antiquity an indictable offense? One would think with that vast amount of experience (nine generations!) that you’d not react so strongly to a random Homer, Lucius, Josephus, Hadrian, or Ovid.

If you reject classical names on principal it would be hard to find defense for so much as a parking ticket south of Richmond, not to mention first-degree murder.

by Anonymousreply 344July 21, 2022 5:52 AM

As you know, there are few people old-school southerners detest more than EYE-talians (which is how they would think of any Latin name.)

The name “Lucius” hasn’t been popular since the late 19th century.

Exactly how old are you, bitch?

by Anonymousreply 345July 21, 2022 6:07 AM

R345, you can’t swing a cat in a Southern country club without hitting thirds, fourths, or fifths.

Perhaps we run in different social circles.

by Anonymousreply 346July 21, 2022 6:21 AM

Nope. You’ve read about the south, but never been there.

My brother’s initials are WWWIII.

The hyper- literalism gives you away. Nothing anyone says in the south is to be taken literally in any way.

And they don’t capitalize “South.”

by Anonymousreply 347July 21, 2022 6:26 AM

I don't understand why white people have to keep committing these gragedies.

by Anonymousreply 348July 21, 2022 6:34 AM

R347, my first Woodard ancestor came to Jamestown in 1620 and we’ve been here ever since. Public record, look it up.

by Anonymousreply 349July 21, 2022 6:35 AM

That is non-responsive. And Virginia has been considered a (culturally) mid-Atlantic state during your considerable lifetime.

So it’s still not clear why you are attempting to hold forth about culture in the derp south— or, at least the very specific culture that’s integral to the Murdaugh case.

If you were truly southern, another thing you would know is the cultures are hyper-local. Atlanta is very different from Savannah is very different from Charleston is very different from Columbia… etc

by Anonymousreply 350July 21, 2022 6:53 AM

Derp south is a typo but I love it so it stays

by Anonymousreply 351July 21, 2022 6:54 AM

R304, I wrote, "Link is about Alex, not Paul the housekeeper, the dead, boating crash girl or the nurse-in-training who was either turning tricks for cash with older me or dealing drugs." My apologies for the poor proofing before clicking 'post'.

Try again: Link is about Alex, not Paul, or the housekeeper, or the dead, boating crash girl or the nurse-in-training who was either turning tricks for cash with older me or dealing drugs.

BTW - this case has so many side cases, it's so incestuously intertwined - the story of the fired bank president is particularly juicy. I want pics of his family and hopefully news stories of how badly behaved he, his wife (if there is one) and his spawn (he's got to have procreated) have been over the years. Wouldn't it lovely if South Carolina residents started a run on the bank, closing accounts?!

by Anonymousreply 352July 21, 2022 9:52 AM

Not sure if it's the drugs or what BUT what in the entire FUCKING galaxy would make this guy think that HE would be the one person to actually get away with it. That's some raging narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 353July 21, 2022 10:58 AM

maybe because he's got away with so many things already. People tend to get overconfident and therefore sloppy.

by Anonymousreply 354July 21, 2022 11:04 AM

Back in the day if Tennessee Williams had written this it would have been laughed out of the theater as too dramatic.

Flannery O'Connor with her outsider Catholic sensibility is the one I think truly understood the degenerate South. Only an absolutely act of grace from something totally outside these people's ken can redeem them. Something entirely other, there is nothing within their system that is more than merely potentially good and most of it is evil.

It goes back to murdering Natives and building a culture based on the enslavement of Blacks.

by Anonymousreply 355July 21, 2022 12:03 PM

Because Northerners didn't do that either, r355.

by Anonymousreply 356July 21, 2022 12:05 PM

[Quote] Derp south is a typo but I love it so it stays

As if you have a choice.

by Anonymousreply 357July 21, 2022 12:40 PM

R355, I wonder if the playwright Horton Foote could have made a trilogy of plays out if this sordid tale? Quite possibly, but the drug abuse and dead gay guy seem a bit far afield from his writing.

I wonder if Tracy Letts is keeping copious notes for a future production and I bet Neil LaBute is pondering how to take the story and make it Mormon.

by Anonymousreply 358July 21, 2022 12:44 PM

I think a musical ala Fun Home by Lisa Kron and Jeanine Tesori would be your best bet, and I would totally read an Alison Bechdel graphic novel version of the story.

by Anonymousreply 359July 21, 2022 1:24 PM

R356, the North did not have a culture built on slavery, the South and had to reinforce it daily in a million ways. Including lynching well into the 20th century.

The Native thing, well that's a bigger issue. Complicated but it plays in. Wasn't that Faulkner's insight.

by Anonymousreply 360July 21, 2022 1:25 PM

R350, you can nit-pick and move goalposts all you’d like but I know quite a lot about these people and their culture because it’s my own. The cultures of rural South Carolina and rural North Carolina are not that far removed, beliefs on barbecue sauce notwithstanding. I grew up in the bird hunting, saltwater fishing set and my grandfather bred hunting dogs as a hobby. You’ve probably never even had a beaten biscuit or had to spit lead shot out.

I would also point out that your original claim that names based historical figures from antiquity aren’t common in the South any longer falls flat considering this thread is about a man named Alexander.

by Anonymousreply 361July 21, 2022 1:44 PM

Why would someone named Alex be known as Alec? Big Baldwin supporter?

by Anonymousreply 362July 21, 2022 1:46 PM

It’s common in my area, I’ve known a couple of Alexes pronounced with the “k” sound but never one that spelled it with a “c”.

by Anonymousreply 363July 21, 2022 1:53 PM

Curious New Englander here.

Is the Murdaugh surname being pronounced with a “k” sound a Southern or Irish thing? I’ve never heard of anyone’s full name with those consonant anomalies in the region I grew up in. Irish names, first and last, are extremely common here.

by Anonymousreply 364July 21, 2022 3:02 PM

[353]...The mind reels. Tracy Letts is an INSPIRED choice. And the murder of Ma Murdaugh early in the saga means Carrie Coon (Mrs. T Letts) can knock her scenes out in a couple of days and get back to filming The Gilded Age. I'll have a deal memo on your desk by the close of business. I'm thinking John Lithgow for the disgraced bank manager....no, you're right. Waste of a talent for such a small role.

by Anonymousreply 365July 21, 2022 3:11 PM

John Lithgow took a very small role in “Terms of Endearment” and turned it into his second consecutive Oscar nomination.

by Anonymousreply 366July 21, 2022 4:58 PM

[quote]my first Woodard ancestor came to Jamestown in 1620 and we’ve been here ever since.

Were the convicts or just religious nuts? Most of the trash that washed up on this country's shores back then were one or the other.

I don't get why some people think it is anything to be proud of.

by Anonymousreply 367July 21, 2022 6:40 PM

I don’t get why you’re suggesting that it’s something to be ashamed of, R367.

My American ancestors go way back, too. Maybe they were indentured servants, or former criminals, or some other type of “trash”. Who knows, I’ve never done the research to find out.

But, so what, if that would be the case. They survived, toiled hard and made new and better lives for themselves and for their descendants countless generations later. I’d be proud of that heritage.

You type insufferable and full of yourself.

by Anonymousreply 368July 21, 2022 6:58 PM

My family is from South Georgia, and had several sets of twins. Two of them I recall being named:

Lily Mae and Lily Maud

Lucia and Lucius

I've sadly lost track, but I believe Lucia is still alive. My point being, it's quite common for southerners to cling to family names, even still.

But, the characters in this sad chronicle are shameful, at the very least.

by Anonymousreply 369July 21, 2022 8:00 PM

This complete idiot actually wore his Apple watch with Fitbit during the murders, allowed himself to be videotaped at the crime scene with his victims minutes before he blasted their heads off by the son he was about to kill, and he did not even bother to change his clothing before calling 911 even though he was 100 yards from his house. He should be given the firing squad for stupidity if nothing else.

by Anonymousreply 370July 21, 2022 8:17 PM

Born and bred Southerner,and proud of it too. Not all of us are ignorant white trash. In my life the only men I ever met named Lucius were black. One thing about southerners,we knoiw trash when we see it. You can be from a fine old family,but if you are trash,everyone knows it . These fucks may have been big fish in a small pond,but only nouveau riche trash thought they were anything other than trash.

by Anonymousreply 371July 22, 2022 1:27 AM

R370, people like Murdaugh think they don't have to be smart, they think their position in the local oligarchy or Old Boy's Network is so incredibly secure that nothing can touch them. They're quite sure that no rules or laws apply to them, because they know the right people and know what those people want to keep quiet, so they sail through life thinking nothing will ever touch them.

It's entirely possible that Murdaugh, or the Murdaugh family, would have gotten away with murder, under normal circumstances. Normally, a corrupt chief of police and DA would pin the crime on someone on their shit list or let it wither away as a cold case, however the corrupt processes work there. But this case made the national news, and maybe Alex was becoming more of a liability than an asset to the network of corruption he lived in, and this time... the case wasn't buried. This time.

by Anonymousreply 372July 22, 2022 1:32 AM

Is Lavarius Slaughter southern?

by Anonymousreply 373July 22, 2022 1:32 AM

[Quote] Alex was becoming more of a liability than an asset to the network of corruption he lived in, and this time... the case wasn't buried.

But does that mean that Alex will be "suicided" so he doesn't take anyone powerful down with him?

by Anonymousreply 374July 22, 2022 1:34 AM

The fact that Alex botched it so badly makes me think he’s killed before and gotten away with it.

by Anonymousreply 375July 22, 2022 1:36 AM

R371, Preach. That's just how southern people think and operate. Love you.

by Anonymousreply 376July 22, 2022 1:36 AM

"But does that mean that Alex will be "suicided" so he doesn't take anyone powerful down with him?"

Distinctly possible!

And I said above that Alex is a good bet to off himself anyway. A toxic narcissist can live with the fact that he killed his own son, but not with everyone *knowing* that he killed his son, or with the reality of facing punishment for killing his own son. As for killing his inconvenient wife, I expect that's business as usual among his crowd, he'd never have gone down for killing an estranged wife who was about to spill the beans. But killing your own child may have been too much, even for his corrupt allies...

by Anonymousreply 377July 22, 2022 1:41 AM

R370- Absolutely and tbh, if the media hadn't covered this case i have no doubt he would have gotten away with killing them.

by Anonymousreply 378July 22, 2022 2:09 AM

Busta gots his own People Magazine article!

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by Anonymousreply 379July 22, 2022 5:33 AM

Stephen Smith doesn’t even warrant a mention in the above article.

by Anonymousreply 380July 22, 2022 6:13 AM

[Quote] He’s grown a beard!

What's her name?

by Anonymousreply 381July 22, 2022 9:25 AM

R380 They listened to you and gave him his own article. I hope the Piggly Wiggly in BumFuck South Carolina ordered extra copies cause everyone’s going to want to read about it all.

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by Anonymousreply 382July 22, 2022 10:28 PM

It's got to be pretty traumatic to have your entire immediate family die or be jailed for murdering some of the deceased (I believe his grandfather also died recently, though of natural causes?), so retreating from the public is pretty understandable.

Ironically, with all that family dysfunction forcibly removed from his life, he might have a chance at rebuilding a healthy one.

by Anonymousreply 383July 22, 2022 11:26 PM

The grandfather died of cancer a few days after the double murders but he'd been sick a long time and his death was expected.

by Anonymousreply 384July 22, 2022 11:32 PM

What became of Alec’s dementia ridden mother?

by Anonymousreply 385July 22, 2022 11:38 PM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 386July 24, 2022 1:04 AM

“Bro?” What major international newspaper uses “Bro” for a dead murdered person?

by Anonymousreply 387July 24, 2022 1:09 AM

R387, if you click on the link, the headline actually spells out "brother." It seems to be truncated for the preview version.

by Anonymousreply 388July 24, 2022 2:38 AM

Despite the risk of being murdaughed , I’ve always been curious about the low country area and have wanted to visit as a tourist. Any southerners or people who have been there can offer advice if this is worth it?

by Anonymousreply 389July 24, 2022 6:03 AM

R389, no.

The low country is hideous even by the standards of the South.

Stick to the mountains of Virginia and North Carolina, which are beautiful areas and offer a richer, more diverse, folk-driven and less toxic culture.

by Anonymousreply 390July 24, 2022 6:06 AM

R389, I went to Aiken and really enjoyed it

by Anonymousreply 391July 24, 2022 6:28 AM

What’s fascinating about Alex is that he just couldn’t stop himself. As ridiculous as his schemes were, he just kept on going.

What a fucking idiot.

It never ceases to amaze me how smart people fuck up their lives to the point that they commit multiple homicides and end up in these situations.

by Anonymousreply 392July 24, 2022 6:30 AM

R392- That is what happens when someone has never had to answer for their behavior. But it seems his privilege and protection died along with his father. His life went straight to hell almost immediately.

by Anonymousreply 393July 24, 2022 7:14 AM

Oxycontin makes you have terrible judgement. At some point, it becomes a biological imperative to have it. You'll do anything to keep a steady supply coming.

by Anonymousreply 394July 24, 2022 7:21 AM

R394- People who know them say his drugs of choice were alcohol and cocaine. They believe that he claimed to be addicted to oxy because it be more acceptable and people would be more sympathetic to a prescription medication than a street drug like coke. Paul's former girlfriend publicly released several videos of Paul and his parents drinking. They acted like drinking buddies instead of parents and enabled Paul's alcoholism from a shockingly young age. Alex is shown partying with Paul and his young friends and it is so inappropriate and disturbing.

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by Anonymousreply 395July 24, 2022 7:45 AM

Wow. Paul wasn’t even a legal adult, yet he was a full blown alcoholic.

by Anonymousreply 396July 24, 2022 8:35 AM

How shallow a dating pool does the low country of S Carolina have that Morgan Doughty would be Paul's "longtime girlfriend"? Christ, Paul wasn't very good looking, had the body of the Pillsbury Doughboy and was a drunk.

Was he seen as being a BMOC because of the Murdaugh name so she hitched a ride for the fun?

Women, I really do not understand them and this case and the people within it's cesspool of actions, activities and proclivities just becomes more and more foul.

by Anonymousreply 397July 24, 2022 11:28 AM

R397, she was quite young. Please give her some leeway.

Also, she went on record and truthfully gave an account of Paul’s drinking habits, his behaviors while drinking, including illegally driving multiple vehicles, recounted that his parents illegally provided him and other minors with alcohol, and verified that Paul used false identifications to purchase alcohol many times, with the full knowledge and consent of his parents.

And yes. The dating pool there is tiny. She grew up around these vipers as did her now deceased former boyfriend, Paul. No one knew any better because any better wasn’t there.

by Anonymousreply 398July 24, 2022 11:50 AM

White trash. Mules in horse harnesses.

by Anonymousreply 399July 24, 2022 4:26 PM

For anyone truly interested in this case, the Mandy Matney podcast The Murdaugh Murders, is beyond excellent.

Mandy did such a fantastic job. She represents what good, honest and relentless journalism is all about, something we’re sorely missing in today’s “news”.

I give her an A +.

by Anonymousreply 400July 24, 2022 4:40 PM

Vocal fry?

by Anonymousreply 401July 24, 2022 4:42 PM

Yep, R401.

Miss Vocal Fry runs circles around most seasoned journos out there.

She’s top notch, no doubt about it.

by Anonymousreply 402July 24, 2022 4:45 PM

Yes, you have to wonder if law enforcement would have acted if the case had not been given so much attention. I feel they would probably have just let it go because of the Murdaugh 'standing' in the community otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 403July 24, 2022 4:47 PM

Might she receive some sort of vocal training to take her to the next level?

by Anonymousreply 404July 24, 2022 4:47 PM

R398

I don't buy it. Give her a break?

{quote]Also, she went on record and truthfully gave an account of Paul’s drinking habits, his behaviors while drinking, including illegally driving multiple vehicles, recounted that his parents illegally provided him and other minors with alcohol, and verified that Paul used false identifications to purchase alcohol many times, with the full knowledge and consent of his parents.

Yet she still decided to be his boyfriend? Really? She's not a child. An woman has agency. He (and his parents) sound like real assholes. A woman with half a brain would have run far away.

All it says is that she was as bad as they were, or found it all exciting. Either way, young doesn't explain it.

Oh, and, her testifying? You don't get gold stars for doing the right thing.

by Anonymousreply 405July 24, 2022 4:53 PM

^^^ Sorry I screwed up the quoted second paragraph.

by Anonymousreply 406July 24, 2022 4:54 PM

Oh, please. "As bad as they were." The girlfriend didn't kill anyone.

by Anonymousreply 407July 24, 2022 4:54 PM

Someone's just jealous that she got all that tasty Paul dick.

by Anonymousreply 408July 24, 2022 4:56 PM

Actually, R405, she was a child. She was only 16 or 17 when the boating accident happened, and allegedly she had started dating Paul when she was 14 or 15, IIRC.

Also, from what I understand, Paul was already hitting and abusing her by the time the boating accident happened, just like he learned from his father, who had been abusing his mom - which from what I understand is a huge reason she refused to live with Alex under the same roof, wanted a divorce, and why she was afraid to be alone with him on the night she was murdered.

I do wish Matney’s podcast delved deeper into how violent these Murdaugh men were/are.

She’s delved into it somewhat, but she hasn’t really touched upon the alleged domestic violence that ran through that household, itself.

by Anonymousreply 409July 24, 2022 5:06 PM

[quote]The low country is hideous even by the standards of the South.

You are an absolute idiot. The low country is my favorite place in the south. Beaufort is gorgeous and Charleston is one of the most beautiful cities in America.

Just the drive from Savannah to Charleston is amazing. Through Spanish moss, palm trees, and over water. It's lovely.

by Anonymousreply 410July 24, 2022 5:06 PM

R409- Paul learned that abusive behavior from someone, didn't he? That is not meant to defend him at all. Paul most likely had brain damage from years of abuse begining at such a young age and being fully enabled by his parents and the Murdaugh name.

by Anonymousreply 411July 24, 2022 5:16 PM

But the other brother, Buster, is not a raging alcoholic.

Of course, that story may change if it turns out he killed Stephen Smith.

by Anonymousreply 412July 24, 2022 5:24 PM

Buster smokes, though.

by Anonymousreply 413July 24, 2022 5:25 PM

Yes, R411. I mentioned that in my post.

Also, people here are saying the Pa Murdaugh wasn’t a pill head, that he was a huge boozer and addicted to blow. Now that may be the case, but from the research I’ve done, including listening to Matney’s podcast, it is alleged that that Pa Murdaugh was ALSO a pill popper, and that whenever he’d pop his pain pills, he’d become verbally abusive, aggressive and even violent.

Matney’s podcast does touch upon this, and she researched his time in college and law school, where he had multiple violent outbursts while out socializing with his then, classmates & had multiple run ins with law enforcement, as a result.

His father always got him out of these nasty situations, and he never faced any legal consequences, as a result.

He grew up to do the same for his son, Paul, who was a chip off the old block, and ended up killing to Beech girl in the boating accident.

Matney’s podcast even has an episode which features jailhouse phone calls that Alex had with his family members, and his hubris is STUNNING, to put it mildly.

by Anonymousreply 414July 24, 2022 5:31 PM

*killing the Beech girl

by Anonymousreply 415July 24, 2022 5:36 PM

R414- It truly was stunning, especially when he kept encouraging Buster to go back to Moselle ,where his mother and brother were brutally murdered ,to go hunting. Surreal. It sounds as if AM is speaking in code at times but the biggest take away for me is that AM really believes he will get out of jail one day soon.

by Anonymousreply 416July 24, 2022 5:36 PM

Beaufort is a jumped-up bait store R410.

Charleston is a peeling postage stamp.

The drive from Savannah to Charleston takes you past 200,000 hideous gated community golf courses full of rich white trash.

You can fucking keep that glorified spatter of swamp rot.

by Anonymousreply 417July 24, 2022 5:45 PM

Moselle is a beautiful property, imo. But it is creepy and isolated. Maggie reportedly did not like staying there and I can totally understand why. Of course it seems downright haunted now. Not by ghosts or the paranormal, but the horrible memory of what happened there.

by Anonymousreply 418July 24, 2022 5:51 PM

Personally, I find Savannah and Charleston to be absolutely gorgeous.

Savannah has its crime ridden areas, for sure, but downtown Savannah’s historic district and riverfront are picturesque.

A shame both towns are riddled with trashy folk. But both towns are riddled with some very interesting people, as well.

It’s a mixed bag down there. You take the good with the bad.

by Anonymousreply 419July 24, 2022 5:57 PM

R419- All towns have trashy people. I think Savannah and Charleston are gorgeous, especially in the fall. I am a southern girl myself and have lived in Georgia all of my life. I absolutely hate heat and humidity but I love to travel to there in the cooler months. There is nothing in a big city that compares, imo.

by Anonymousreply 420July 24, 2022 6:03 PM

R420, I agree, and if I were a white conservative, I’d have stayed in GA, Savannah, specifically.

by Anonymousreply 421July 24, 2022 6:20 PM

R405, the entire community enabled these assholes for years. They repeatedly looked the other way or participated in their crimes. The cops were preparing to cover up for Paul after the accident. Why single out the girlfriend?

by Anonymousreply 422July 24, 2022 6:33 PM

R421- I am a life long democrat, lol. Family obligations were why I moved back and now poverty is why I am stuck. The weather is what has become intolerable for me because I have MS and we do not do well in the heat .

by Anonymousreply 423July 24, 2022 6:35 PM

R422- Yes, idk what a young teenager was expected to do when the Murdaughs were the law in there for decades.

by Anonymousreply 424July 24, 2022 6:37 PM

Idk if this has been posted, but it is a good article about the murders and has a bit of new information that I wasn't aware of, such as Paul's phone was found under his body and that AM was lying in wait for Maggie.

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by Anonymousreply 425July 24, 2022 8:11 PM

No, Alex would have gotten away with the murders if the larger world hadn't taken an interest in this case. Everyone in that county would have known he did it, and his behavior would only have gotten worse, but the corrupt justice system would have failed to find any evidence against him.

Alex would have kept up his petty reign of terror until he OD's, wrapped his fancy car around a tree, or someone did what we assumed the Beach family had done at first. And if the alleged killer was as well connected as the Murdaughs, the police wouldn't have found any evidence against them, either...

by Anonymousreply 426July 25, 2022 12:47 AM

Matney has made a lot of enemies with her FB, Twitter, and Reddit bullying. She is strangely possessive of this story and will milk it for all she can. Some of her followers are downright nuts. Is she posting here now?

by Anonymousreply 427July 25, 2022 4:46 AM

Matney has made bank off of this story.

The ad revenues for her podcast are paying FAR more than he job at some no-name on-line publication.

by Anonymousreply 428July 25, 2022 5:18 AM

I tried to listen to her podcasts the other day. She is a horrible speaker. I know someone mentioned vocal fry, but it’s also accompanied by a bizarre mechanical tone like the auto phone attendants when you call a company. “Press one for technical support, press 2 for customer service, press three for billing enquiries….”

I also found I was skipping ahead past all her “woe-is-me we needed a vacation from the stress of following this story” stuff. ‘Boo hoo it’s so hard ‘ Maybe she broke news in some of her episodes - I don’t know - but I found each episode I listened to was actually pretty weak on content that was also lost between her self pity, and self congratulating. It’s that typical thing that sucks when journalists try to become part of the story instead of just reporting on it. She’s a bore and if she is breaking any news I will just wait for other outlets to pick it up.

by Anonymousreply 429July 25, 2022 6:02 AM

Mandy blows a lot of smoke up her own ass. I find the constant self-promotion irritating.

by Anonymousreply 430July 25, 2022 2:04 PM

I stopped listening to her, does she do check-ins about wedding planning in the episodes?

by Anonymousreply 431July 25, 2022 2:14 PM

R431- I have never been able to tolerate her. She thinks she is the story and she's not. Then there is her voice. Just no.

by Anonymousreply 432July 25, 2022 2:18 PM

I called out the vocal fry and sent her multiple links to working with speech therapists to correct it and she blocked me.

by Anonymousreply 433July 25, 2022 2:21 PM

R433- What a rude, ungrateful bitch! 😂

by Anonymousreply 434July 25, 2022 2:26 PM

R433 I don't blame her.

But Mandy does violate an important rule of journalism: Don't make yourself the story. It's as if she can't NOT do that.

by Anonymousreply 435July 25, 2022 2:28 PM

She has actually improved with the vocal fry.

by Anonymousreply 436July 25, 2022 4:56 PM

R433 sounds like a cunt. What if she made fun of you for having gay voice?

by Anonymousreply 437July 25, 2022 6:15 PM

she's probably a cheap cunt starting new threads before the old ones fill up!

by Anonymousreply 438July 25, 2022 6:18 PM

Tilda Swinton IS Buster!

by Anonymousreply 439July 27, 2022 9:21 PM

Where are the lynching when you need them?

by Anonymousreply 440July 27, 2022 9:46 PM

Richard Kind as Buster?

by Anonymousreply 441July 27, 2022 9:57 PM

I wonder if the rest of Alex's local network of corruption are going to have him Epsteined?

by Anonymousreply 442July 27, 2022 10:10 PM

R442- I wonder just how much Cousin Eddie knows and how much he will tell.

by Anonymousreply 443July 27, 2022 10:15 PM

I don't think Cousin Eddie will tell.

Partly because an (alleged) drug dealer isn't in a position to make enemies in the corrupt local legal system, and partly because to be a success in the (alleged) drug-dealing business, a person needs to maintain a reputation for being serious about client confidentiality.

by Anonymousreply 444July 28, 2022 12:17 AM

R444- I would love to know the true story of what happened that day on the highway.

by Anonymousreply 445July 28, 2022 12:19 AM

You would know.

by Anonymousreply 446July 28, 2022 12:19 AM

Who would know?

by Anonymousreply 447July 28, 2022 1:10 AM

The Shadow do.

by Anonymousreply 448July 28, 2022 1:24 AM

R448- If only those poor hunting dogs could talk.

by Anonymousreply 449July 28, 2022 1:32 AM

Updates?

by Anonymousreply 450August 7, 2022 10:26 PM

^When you get indicted for murder, it is almost unbelievable how long it takes for ANYTHING to happen in the court system. Unlessen Paw pleads guilty in the next 6 months, Datalounge is gonna be sittin on this one for a couple of years, probably. Although, as I said up above, Paw's lifestyle up to this point reflects VERY badly on the judicial system, which is highly disagreeable to the whole industry, and so the Courts and the Bar may try to pull strings behind the scenes to get Paw "out of here" more swiftly than they would for an ordinary, drug-addled killer.

by Anonymousreply 451August 7, 2022 11:03 PM

Last I heard both sides wanted to put a gag order on the proceedings. Is that why there is nothing lately in the news?

by Anonymousreply 452August 8, 2022 3:04 AM

I believe the gag order was denied.

by Anonymousreply 453August 8, 2022 3:06 AM

^It's hard to imagine such a thing being granted in a case with so much public interest (and intense suspicion about the people involved and the other unsolved crimes).

by Anonymousreply 454August 8, 2022 3:12 AM

R453, indeed it was denied.

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by Anonymousreply 455August 8, 2022 3:22 AM

Well that’s a relief.

by Anonymousreply 456August 8, 2022 3:34 AM

They are all so plug ugly, inside and out. Something off about those kind of redheads. Reminds me of that red headed kid killer with the weird ears.

by Anonymousreply 457August 8, 2022 3:42 AM

It troubling that both sides wanted the gag order. I suppose that they might have been concerned with limiting the information potential jurors could learn about, but it seems more likely that there’s just going to be a lot of dirt coming about a lot of people.

by Anonymousreply 458August 8, 2022 3:46 AM

The corruption continues

by Anonymousreply 459August 8, 2022 3:48 AM

R458- Both sides have much to hide, I have no doubt.

by Anonymousreply 460August 8, 2022 4:01 AM

Nobody on either side wants the truth about how corrupt the local legal system is getting out. So, everyone is in favor of the gag order!

In fact, if the gag order really is denied, the only other way to keep all that quiet is to Epstein PA Murdaugh....

by Anonymousreply 461August 8, 2022 11:48 AM

It's *easy* to see why Paw would have wanted to quash info coming out, purely to avoid increasing embarrassment to himself and his family (his bros are lawyers in the area, too). The prosecutors might have supported the motion because they have other crimes to investigate involving this turkey, and so it might help them in those efforts if information weren't floating around so freely in public. The Judge must have decided that the public's right to know about these crimes and their prosecution wins out over any of those prudential considerations, and the Murdaughs' apparent interest in keeping things hush-hush is, legally, just laughable.

by Anonymousreply 462August 8, 2022 1:08 PM

[quote]They are all so plug ugly, inside and out. Something off about those kind of redheads. Reminds me of that red headed kid killer with the weird ears.

Pippi Longstocking?

by Anonymousreply 463August 9, 2022 11:29 PM

Shirley MacLaine!

by Anonymousreply 464August 9, 2022 11:30 PM

Prince Harry and the Whores

by Anonymousreply 465August 10, 2022 12:22 AM

The subreddit has an unofficial gag order. I was BANNED by the psycho moderator of one of the Murdaugh subreddits for pointing out something that was publicly available information.

It was shocking how mad they got that I put two and two together and mentioned it. No sleuthing, doxxing, spilling secrets. It was like Rumplestiltskin stamping his foot when his name was guessed.

It was the oddest thing. There are so many crazy people in and around this case, I had to back away. I’ll check in from time to time, but it’s bad mojo.

by Anonymousreply 466August 10, 2022 1:44 AM

Be specific. What did you write about?

by Anonymousreply 467August 10, 2022 1:46 AM

[quote] The subreddit has an unofficial gag order. I was BANNED by the psycho moderator of one of the Murdaugh subreddits for pointing out something that was publicly available information

Which subreddit? There are at least two I know of about the Murdaugh case and probably more. Plus the case is regularly discussed on r/unresolvedmysteries, one of Reddit's best and best moderated subs.

If you want to complain, give us more detail. And I don't doubt at all you had to deal with a "psycho moderator." Most people who have tried to post there have. The few groups that have sane and informed moderators there are great. When Rreddit is good, it's great. It's just usually not very good.

by Anonymousreply 468August 10, 2022 1:58 AM

"Sane and informed" moderators at Reddit are a rare breed. I admire the ones who hang on. Most of them give up early on.

by Anonymousreply 469August 10, 2022 2:12 AM

I was banned for three days over absolutely nothing by that psycho bitch sleuthbee. Another sub was made because of that mentally unstable mod.

by Anonymousreply 470August 10, 2022 2:07 PM

R470, that woman is truly nuts. Why she’s a moderator, and has stayed as a moderator . . . I mean, an entire sub was created and filled out by redditors banned by her psycho behavior.

by Anonymousreply 471August 10, 2022 2:42 PM

I hate when threads devolve into complaining about nobodies on other sites.

by Anonymousreply 472August 10, 2022 2:46 PM

R472, that happens all the time on the Theatre Gossip threads.

by Anonymousreply 473August 10, 2022 3:24 PM

I really don't care about Reddit subs because I prefer to post here. I only read them when something major happens. It will probably be a long time until his trial. He may be Epsteined, there is a very good chance of that happening in my opinion. Especially when reality really hits the dull witted ginger that he isn't going to be given a reprieve or some under the table deal . He will start throwing everyone he can under the bus, imo. He is far too entitled and stupid to keep his mouth shut.

by Anonymousreply 474August 10, 2022 3:44 PM

Drew Carey IS Paw Murdaugh!

by Anonymousreply 475August 10, 2022 6:20 PM

They should just use most of the cast from Outer Banks as the slutty teens.

by Anonymousreply 476August 10, 2022 7:32 PM

Update from CNN - not Alex, but the guy who was supposed to shoot him in the head...

I like this paragraph, According to the indictment, over the course of eight years, Murdaugh gave Smith “hundreds of checks with common understanding that Smith would convert the checks into cash,” with the proceeds going to Murdaugh’s “benefit with the intent of carrying on and concealing myriad unlawful activities.”

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by Anonymousreply 477August 12, 2022 10:42 AM

Thanks, R477. It's like looking under a rock - all of the creepy crawlies scuttle around trying to hide from the light. This case is as murky as ever. Hopefully Curtis Smith will reveal all that he knows at some point.

by Anonymousreply 478August 12, 2022 11:06 AM

I think Alex would have killed him ("in self defense") and then accused Smith of attempted murder, in a ploy to cast Smith as the likely killer of Maggie and Sonny Boy. He *was* looking for a patsy, one that couldn't talk back.

by Anonymousreply 479August 12, 2022 12:06 PM

R479 The heat was on Alex that weekend. He had just been fired for embezzling. And he was the sole person of interest in his wife/kid's murders.

I, too, think he was setting Smith up as the killer. He wanted Smith to superficially shoot him first and then Alex was going to kill Smith and claim, "Smith obviously wanted to finish my family off!"

But Smith didn't cooperate and fled.

by Anonymousreply 480August 12, 2022 2:26 PM

R479 and R480, this seems logical, at least by the standards of Paw's behavior. The idea that Paw was trying to commit suicide and leave Busted a heap o' insurance money is laughable.

by Anonymousreply 481August 12, 2022 7:40 PM

^^^Buster and not Busted.

Although...

by Anonymousreply 482August 12, 2022 7:41 PM

I have to give Paw a little credit for coming up with the scheme re killing "cousin" Steve in order to shift the blame for the murders of Maggie and Sonny onto his corpse. It's very wily and could have conceivably worked. Maybe. Unfortunately, he wasn't smart enough to lay the scene where there wouldn't be a church security cam directly across the (largely abandoned) highway, which picked up everything that transpired there. Dumb-dum that he apparently is. -R479

by Anonymousreply 483August 12, 2022 7:45 PM

R483 His bigger problem was wearing his Apple watch and taking his Apple phone and his own car (with GPS) to a murder.

That left trails of breadcrumbs that blow his alibi out of the water.

by Anonymousreply 484August 12, 2022 8:34 PM

^It would've worked on me too. I never would have noticed something like that, although I *would* have had the sense to leave my cell phone in a nice "alibi" location the whole time. "The Killer(s)" of Maggie and Sonny-boy also took Sonny's phone from the scene and chucked it out the window near Moselle, without even bothering to lob it into any of the omnipresent swampy places that the area is full of. It is just incomprehensible. "The Killer" obviously expected that phone to be found, and as a lawyer, Paw would CERTAINLY have known that it would be transmitting away like mad, the entire time, UNLESS it was thrown in the water. It just doesn't make sense. He's must've been totally wasted, to have had the courage to kill his own family members the way he did, that's the only explanation for all of that I can come up with: he was out of his mind the entire time. High on drugs and probably alcohol too.

by Anonymousreply 485August 12, 2022 8:41 PM

R484- "But it's not fair!! I never had to have a reasonable alibi before! " Pa, furiously squeezing the remaining ketchup from discarded packets.

by Anonymousreply 486August 12, 2022 8:43 PM

[quote][R483] His bigger problem was wearing his Apple watch and taking his Apple phone and his own car (with GPS) to a murder.

This guy is a lawyer?

by Anonymousreply 487August 12, 2022 9:26 PM

Yeah but he usually gets away with it. This time somehow the case got tons of media attention so that's the real reason why he can't get away with it anymore.

by Anonymousreply 488August 12, 2022 9:29 PM

There’s a huge article in this weekend’s Wall Street Journal about the lawsuit brought by Mallory Beach’s family against the convenience store chain that sold Paul Murdaugh liquor on the night of the boating accident. It discusses the Murdaugh killings, of course, and the corrupt Murdaugh dynasty.

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by Anonymousreply 489August 14, 2022 8:39 PM

Very interesting that the WSJ would take this up. Thanks for pointing this out and getting an accessible copy of it.

by Anonymousreply 490August 14, 2022 8:54 PM

R490, you’re welcome! The Murdaughs are a gift to journalism.

by Anonymousreply 491August 14, 2022 8:59 PM

But not to Vocal Fry recovery.

by Anonymousreply 492August 15, 2022 2:10 AM

Man South Carolina is a small-town world and its incestuous relationships (meaning business, social and legislative) can be traced all the way to the federal governments' foreign service!

That was quite the read, thanks for knowing how to get a WSJ piece from behind a paywall.

I side with Parker (and feel for the clerk who sold the booze to the now dead Paul), but like everyone else in Murdaugh's orbit, what a nasty, nasty man.

by Anonymousreply 493August 15, 2022 10:53 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 494August 18, 2022 10:46 PM

Dick Harpootlian is pure scum and he is nothing more than a court jester. Any cases that he won were fixed for him ahead of time because of corruption. Let's see if he is capable of winning a case that isn't fixed for him by a corrupt judge. I really dislike him.

by Anonymousreply 495August 28, 2022 11:43 PM

Paw is going to plead guilty. They are just holding out to see the evidence, so they can determine how bad the case is against him. If he had micro stains of blood on his clothes from the victims, he ought to be facing a death sentence in SC. Killing your wife and son for money? Capital punishment. He'll plead guilty, without any chance of parole, is my guess, to avoid a trial.

by Anonymousreply 496August 29, 2022 2:15 PM

Paw's attorney yelling and being an ass in Court:

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by Anonymousreply 497August 29, 2022 9:35 PM

There are articles out there stating that on the videotape that they found on Paul's phone everyone was getting along just great! No problems! But that only proves AM was lying about where he was when they were killed, it puts him with them at the time of death. ( I think someone in the Murdaugh family leaked that story to help AM.). It doesn't help him. Vocal fry is reportedly leaving Fitsnews.

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by Anonymousreply 498August 29, 2022 10:06 PM

Lol, is Mandy finally having a nervous breakdown from all her intensive journalist integrity and shutting down the naysayer comments on her podcast? Maybe she’ll join Only Murders in the Building and be the podcaster murdered because of her vocal fry

by Anonymousreply 499August 29, 2022 10:41 PM

R499- I think she is that paranoid loon mod on the Murdaugh Family murders subreddit, lol. The slightest criticism of her on that sub will get one banned immediately. She can't separate herself from the story. It isn't about her, no one gaf about her and her drama.

by Anonymousreply 500August 29, 2022 11:08 PM

I think Mandy was making too much money from her podcast to bother writing for FitsNews.

I'm sure that created some tension.

I can't listen to the podcast anymore because she makes it half about herself.

They are trying to sell a subscription podcast now so you don't have to listen to ads. I've never listened to any of her ads.

Someone should pull her aside and tell her to keep her fiance behind the scenes. He reads letters/testimony and has the cheesiest community theater-level bad speaking voice. It is very irritating and makes her sound like Meryl.

by Anonymousreply 501September 1, 2022 7:14 PM

Wake up DL! It's Sunday morning and the NY Post has got new dish... do you believe Pa Murdaugh is a drug kingpin or just a white guy with a habit?

Oh, and how whack is it that someone (not Pa) would have the letters C-O-W tatted our across their neck? Christ, talk about trailer trash cracker shit.

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by Anonymousreply 502September 11, 2022 2:38 PM

I'm surprised Alex had enough time to stop slapping hookers to run a drug gang.

by Anonymousreply 503September 11, 2022 2:52 PM

[quote]In June, Murdaugh and Smith [the cousin connected to the car shooting/suicide attempt] were indicted on conspiracy and drug charges that allege Smith received at least 437 checks totaling $2,413,754.79 from Murdaugh, between 2013 and 2021. It’s alleged that Smith converted them into cash in a scheme to benefit Murdaugh as part of “myriad unlawful activities.”

The sums of money involved are what puzzle me more than anything. Obviously Pa Murdaugh had some sort of income and/or partnership interest in his family law firm. On top of which, he stole a small fortune from the insurance settlement on his dead housekeeper, and from settlement accounts in his own firm. But for all of that he seems never to have been flush. It doesn't take require enormous money to "live big" in the back country of South Carolina. and yet somehow he got so deeply in debt that no amount of thievery would set him right with his creditors - never mind the people he robbed who had not yet discovered the fact.

That and the fact that he was "given" the very large parcel of land containing the hunting estate suggest he may have had something going on more than his own "addiction."

by Anonymousreply 504September 11, 2022 3:05 PM

Alex was "given" that very large parcel of land by a notorious drug dealer. The parcel had a landing strip and buildings to store things.

I find it odd that Alex used $300,000 of stolen money to pay his father. Was that to hide the money from creditors behind daddy's trust -- or was it daddy's cut in the crimes?

by Anonymousreply 505September 11, 2022 3:30 PM

I find it hard to believe that Alex was a major drug dealer, he doesn't seem to be competent enough! A corrupt lawyer may be able to get away with robbing clients and making deals in bad faith, but drug dealers actually have to pay their debts and deliver products or they wind up in the local Mob dumping ground.

What's the Carolina equivalent of the New Jersey Pine Barrens, or the Angeles National Forest?

by Anonymousreply 506September 11, 2022 4:02 PM

A boating party with Pa Murdaugh's kid?

by Anonymousreply 507September 11, 2022 4:04 PM

R506 I suspect it was a family business. Alex's father was much more competent. I think Alex's father and Rusell Laffitte's daddy started the money laundering and passed it down to their less competent son. Or sons. I think Alex's brothers are in on it too.

by Anonymousreply 508September 11, 2022 4:05 PM

Plenty of swampland in SC to dump bodies in.

Some of it on Murdaugh’s land.

Hmm.

by Anonymousreply 509September 11, 2022 5:15 PM

The murder of his wife and son was so brazen and sloppy.

It makes me think he’s gotten away with murder before.

by Anonymousreply 510September 11, 2022 8:29 PM

[quote] What's the Carolina equivalent of the New Jersey Pine Barrens, or the Angeles National Forest?

SOUTH CAROLINA.

by Anonymousreply 511September 12, 2022 12:07 AM

I suspect wily old Maggie the Cat knew too much about Paw's "business" dealings, and, contemplating a divorce, must have indicated in some mild yet significant way that she had the goods on Paw if he didn't come forth with the kind of settlement Maggie thought certain he could afford. So Paw had to kill her to keep her from fucking everything up. And Sonny-boy got in the way or tried to defend her, or something. Paw seems like he's probably a sociopath, to me. Paw is the only one left who could explain what happened and he'll never talk, regardless of how his cases come out.

by Anonymousreply 512September 12, 2022 12:12 AM

From that NYPost article above:

"Murdaugh now faces a total of *90* charges of financial wrongdoing, including recent allegations that he was involved in drug distribution and money laundering across several counties here."

by Anonymousreply 513September 12, 2022 12:18 AM

I wonder where Buster goes from here.

Kicked out of law school.

Mom and brother murdered.

He’d still a party to the Beach lawsuit, I believe.

Then there’s Daddy…

by Anonymousreply 514September 12, 2022 1:25 AM

R514: A Buster update from late July

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by Anonymousreply 515September 12, 2022 1:59 AM

Somehow this whole story has managed to become as boring as the sound of Mandy what’s her name’s voice.

by Anonymousreply 516September 12, 2022 4:26 AM

Mandy will fry. But will Pa?

by Anonymousreply 517September 12, 2022 4:40 AM

It’s going to be boring until the trial begins, probably.

by Anonymousreply 518September 12, 2022 3:55 PM

No trial, at least not for the murders of Maw and Sonny. Guilty Plea, life in prison without parole. Otherwise, he's likely to receive the death penalty. What's going on now with this case is just legalism, formalities of the system. Especially if the death penalty is on the table, there are rigorous legal requirements to all aspects of the proceedings.

by Anonymousreply 519September 12, 2022 4:34 PM

Might he be suicided?

by Anonymousreply 520September 12, 2022 4:37 PM

I could never understand those who choose life in prison over dying. Being locked up in a place and not allowed to leave is so much worse than not existing any more.

by Anonymousreply 521September 12, 2022 4:46 PM

R520: There is always that. The thing is, he's a glaring example of "BAD lawyering" and the folks in the (generally pretty corrupt) SC legal system have powerful incentives to make Paw disappear as quickly and as completely as possible. Paw himself, despite his earlier little roadside shenanigans, does not seem at all like the "suicide type" to me. He's reptilian-looking. A LOT like one of our recent former Presidents.

by Anonymousreply 522September 12, 2022 4:47 PM

Not if you believe in hell.

by Anonymousreply 523September 12, 2022 4:47 PM

R523 people really believe in that crap? So funny. No wonder Trump got elected.

by Anonymousreply 524September 12, 2022 4:51 PM

People Magazine declares Buster's not doing well. Yet he looked like a happy little chipmunk at that outdoor tailgate party at the footbaw game last Fall, greedily eyeing all the liquor arrayed on the bar, just months after his mother and bro had been SLAUGHTERED...He's not right in the head, any more than the rest of his fam, apparently.

by Anonymousreply 525September 12, 2022 4:51 PM

[quote]I wonder where Buster goes from here.

To the nearest glory hole

by Anonymousreply 526September 12, 2022 4:55 PM

[quote]Not if you believe in hell.

Alex is a MURDERER, not an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 527September 12, 2022 4:56 PM

Yes, Paw is certainly not the churchy type. LOL.

by Anonymousreply 528September 12, 2022 4:59 PM

[Quote] Alex is a MURDERER, not an idiot.

He is quite the idiot. He is an exemplary idiot.

by Anonymousreply 529September 12, 2022 6:11 PM

He's stupid enough to be caught criming, but he's not stupid enough to believe in Heaven/Hell.

by Anonymousreply 530September 12, 2022 6:17 PM

It seems as if Mandy and her wannabe actor husband have decided they can make careers out of this case.

But I think fatigue is setting in on it, especially as nothing much is happening.

Also, they struck gold with this case. It is a once-in-a-lifetime case. What are they going to do when it is over?

by Anonymousreply 531September 14, 2022 2:31 PM

[quote]Also, they struck gold with this case. It is a once-in-a-lifetime case. What are they going to do when it is over?

Looking to the future, it might be a very long time before so rich a case unfolds anew.

But looking to the past...South Carolina is very rich soil for mining cold case files and historical cases that make the Murdaughs seem like lightweight amateurs.

by Anonymousreply 532September 14, 2022 2:37 PM

I just listened to Mandy's latest podcast. It was about the Stephen Smith case.

I didn't detect any information that I didn't already know.

So it was, basically, an hour of her lamenting that there was no new information. Not exactly riveting.

And it got so strident after a while. It was like listening to a Judge Jeanine podcast. Every sentence had its outrage set to a 10. It just gets to be a bit much.

by Anonymousreply 533September 14, 2022 6:45 PM

R532, I wonder, though, if it might serve the interests of many people to make Murdaugh the fall guy for every evil scheme in the county.

by Anonymousreply 534September 14, 2022 8:35 PM

R532 Georgia is too. When Facebook first came out a lot of people were using it to blow the whistle on things going on out in GA counties and it was absolutely Wild West bonkers stuff. Didn’t seem to get picked up by the midea much.

by Anonymousreply 535September 14, 2022 8:40 PM

Is he still a murderer?

by Anonymousreply 536December 12, 2022 2:27 PM

All I want to know is why, if his name is spelled "Alex", everyone pronounces it as "Alec" WTF.

by Anonymousreply 537December 12, 2022 3:08 PM

R537, why not ask the passersby on these Charleston streets: Legare, Huger, Horry, Gaillard, Prioleau, Vanderhorst, Manigault, or Lesesne?

by Anonymousreply 538December 12, 2022 3:44 PM

Is this thread dormant? Are other DL Murdaugh threads active? There's a trial and man do the murders of Maw and Paul sound horrific.

Link below. if you like real details, there's also a FOX news piece.

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by Anonymousreply 539January 19, 2023 11:59 PM

R539 , thanks for posting that. I don't know of any other threads at the moment.

Incredible what he did to his own kid. Paul's brain was detached from his body from the upper body shot. Talk about no mercy.

by Anonymousreply 540January 20, 2023 1:33 AM

" "Krönlein shot" is a high velocity gunshot wound to the head which has caused evisceration of brain." This is what that man did to his own child.

Also, remember reading about this earlier in the case and everyone was speculating on what PM said about his father that pissed AM off?

Alex Murdaugh's Son Sent Snapchat to Friends Before He Was Killed, Video Is 'Critical to the Case'

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by Anonymousreply 541January 22, 2023 4:29 PM

Man, that Alex seems to be KING of the, "I told you I was hardcore" fraternity.

What is Buster's life like these days? Is he still holed up with the gf on Hilton Head?

And what about the corrupt/convicted banks? He's tryin' for a new trial!

by Anonymousreply 542January 22, 2023 5:38 PM

Buster is in hiding. Right now , to me, he is the most interesting Murdaugh. What did he know? What did he hear? What happened between him and poor Steven Smith? Was he involved in any way in SS's murder? What did Steven know/ find out about the Murdaugh family? Was one of the Murdaugh brothers involved with Steven? So, so many questions.

by Anonymousreply 543January 22, 2023 6:09 PM

So, here's a list of potential witnesses at Alex - Pa - Murdaugh's murder trial... list includes: Curtis Edward Smith, Rusell Laffitte, several Laffitte family members, employees at PMPED, Buster Murdaugh, Randolph Randy Murdaugh IV, Alex's mother's caregiver, Michelle "Shelley" Smith, Murdaugh family housekeeper Barbara Ann Mixon, Murdaugh family friends Nathan Tuten, Nolan Tuten, and Rogan Gibson, Gloria Satterfield family members Eric Harriott and Scott Harriott (her brothers), Alex and Maggie's friend and the HC Fire Chief Greg Cook, Eric Bland, Bamber attorney Chris Wilson, PMPED attorneys John E. Parker, Ronnie Crosby, Mark Ball, and Daniel Henderson, Hampton accountant Alice Hazel.

AND MORE POTENTIAL WITNESSES - get out the popcorn!

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by Anonymousreply 544January 23, 2023 9:46 PM

I was watching a show or listening to a podcast about this case—can’t remember which or I’d link. The show had jailhouse recordings of him talking to the son who wasn’t killed. It was so clear the guy is a psychopath.

The kid was telling him he’d been in Vegas with friends who took him there to help give him a boost from all that was happening. But it was miserable because he kept getting stopped by people who recognized him from the murder drama.

His asshole father responded: well, it’s still nice to be noticed, right?

The son paused for a moment and said: No, dad, not for this it isn’t.

The conversation carried on like that— the kid describing how terrible things have been for him and the dad making light of it.

by Anonymousreply 545January 23, 2023 10:30 PM

Does Buster really have a girlfriend?

by Anonymousreply 546January 24, 2023 12:25 AM

R545- Did you hear that hideous looking psychopath actually encourage Buster to go hunting at the very place his mother and brother were shot to pieces? Wtah.

by Anonymousreply 547January 24, 2023 7:07 AM

I haven't finished reading it yet, but the linked piece from The New Yorker is well-written, I think I finally understand all of the different players and machinations.

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by Anonymousreply 548January 24, 2023 11:41 AM

Maggie and Paul Murdaugh’s injuries detailed in court filing, possible murder weapon disclosed BY BRISTOW MARCHANT - The State - 1/23/23

Editor’s note: The following story contains graphic details of murder that may be inappropriate for some readers.

A new motion in the double murder case against Alex Murdaugh gives graphic details of the injuries that killed his wife and son in June 2021, and suggests prosecutors may have identified a murder weapon from the guns seized at Murdaugh’s rural family home the day of the murders.

Testing at a State Law Enforcement Division facility, a SLED agent concluded “some of the .300 cartridges retrieved from the firing range and near the residence were fired and/or loaded into, extracted, and ejected by the .300 Blackout rifle taken from the property,” according to a motion filed as jury selection got underway Monday at the courthouse in Walterboro.

The same analysis did not, however, conclusively identify that the shells found near Maggie Murdaugh’s body were fired from the gun recovered by investigators.

The defense team of Dick Harpootlian and Jim Griffin has asked Judge Clifton Newman to exclude that evidence from the trial because it’s based on an “inherently subjective” analysis.

Maggie’s injuries were caused by a bullet from a .300 cartridge, mostly commonly fired from an AR-15 assault rifle, according to separate analysis that details the victims’ injuries. That report was submitted by a blood splatter expert who is being challenged by Murdaugh’s defense team.

Oklahoma-based expert Tom Bevel compiled the report based on autopsy information, photos of the victims and evidence collected by the crime scene investigators.

That evidence details fatal injuries to both mother and son.

Maggie, 52, had five distinct gunshot wounds, the report says. A gunshot wound to the left side of her torso and head include injuries to her left breast, lower jaw, ear, skull and brain. Other injuries were identified to Maggie’s left wrist, left thigh, her upper abdomen through the lower back, and a downward-trajectory shot to the right back of Maggie’s head, injuring the skull, brainstem, cerebellum and the right side of her upper back.

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Murdaugh’s youngest son, Paul, 22, had two distinct gunshot wounds to his chest and shoulder and head. The latter included an entrance wound to the left shoulder and side of the neck, proceeding upward from front to back until the gunshot exited at the right side of the apex of Paul’s head. This injury produced “aspiration of blood” into Paul’s upper airway.

The second shot produced a “cookie cutter pattern” in the left side of Paul’s chest, and then continuing through his left arm.

Analysis also identified blood stains and body tissue from Paul on the entry door, threshold, frame, and wall and ceiling above the door. Splatter was also identified on items on the floor and shelf to the right of the doorway, including a sack of dog food.

Other evidence identified at the scene include hair found on the top of the door and wall, skull fragments on the floor, brain tissue on the outside walkway and footwear patterns in the blood on the floor. Paul was found resting face down just outside the doorway, with his right foot and shoe inside the threshold.

The analysis indicates Paul was shot in the chest first, then shot in the upper left shoulder and face as he was moving toward the door.

The report concludes Maggie was shot four times, with one shot injuring both her wrist and upper body. Six fired cartridge cases were found in a “walking cane handle shaped pattern,” indicating that both Maggie and the shooter were moving as each shot was fired.

Bevel’s report concludes that an evaluation of the T-shirt Murdaugh was wearing at the time found that “six (6) recognized Bloodstain Pattern experts all agreeing the best explanation for the stains on the shirt are spatter from approximately the bottom third up to the top of the shirt,” while blood on the bottom third could be transferred to the shirt from contact with the bodies after they were shot. “All agree they cannot identify some other mechanism to create the distribution and sizes of the questioned stain spatter,” the report says.

The defense is challenging Bevel’s analysis as flawed.

They argue the blood was transferred from the bodies to Murdaugh’s shirt by contact after Paul and Maggie were shot, and that Bevel changed his analysis after meeting with SLED agents. They also say that they were unable to run their own tests on the T-shirt because it was destroyed by Bevel’s analysis.

by Anonymousreply 550January 24, 2023 1:08 PM

Do defense lawyers normally run their own tests on murder evidence rather than interpreting the results of forensic experts brought in by the police investigating the crime?

by Anonymousreply 551January 24, 2023 6:25 PM

R550

Good God.

by Anonymousreply 552January 24, 2023 8:45 PM

Come of guys, let's keep up... at Thursday's trial, Harpootlian got some good "reasonable doubt" points by demonstrating that the deputies on the scene the night of the murders were inept.

AND - how is it. how much is he getting paid? Buster is in the courtroom! Man, he's attending? Does this show support for Pa? And one of Alex's brothers is there too! Really? After Alex's actions destroyed the generations old law firm? W-H-A-C-K.

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by Anonymousreply 553January 27, 2023 12:38 PM

When this story was playing out in real time, I practically couldn’t believe every new story/twist - it’s such a baroque, southern gothic tale that unfolded like a slow, very long movie.

And he’s guilty - I just can’t fathom anyone else doing this and he had motive, means, and opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 554January 29, 2023 10:07 AM

He has to have done it, along with a bunch of other things…

In the meantime, that young prosecutor is adorable.

by Anonymousreply 555January 30, 2023 12:22 AM

I can’t wait until the inevitable limited series about this. Who would play Maggie Murdaugh?

by Anonymousreply 556January 30, 2023 1:59 AM

Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons?

by Anonymousreply 557January 30, 2023 2:13 AM

^^I would watch that!

by Anonymousreply 558January 31, 2023 3:30 AM

"This is what that man did [gunshot description] to his own child. Also, remember reading about this earlier in the case and everyone was speculating on what PM said about his father that pissed AM off?"

My theory is that Murdaugh was in the process of murdering his wife to avoid the expense of a divorce, and that little shit Paul tried to protect his mother. And Murdaugh blasted a bullet through his own son's skull, rather than stop the first murder.

If I'm right, then that little shithead Paul actually tried to do the right thing, once in his life.

by Anonymousreply 559January 31, 2023 8:36 AM

Kim Catrall (in a fat suit) IS Maw Murdaugh!

by Anonymousreply 560January 31, 2023 8:53 AM

Without subscribing to one of the Carolina newspapers, it's difficult to read about the day-to-day proceedings. Harpootlian is earning every cent he's charging though, definitely sowing doubt in the jurors minds.

by Anonymousreply 561January 31, 2023 11:38 AM

The video placing Alex at the kennels directly before the murders.

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by Anonymousreply 562February 2, 2023 2:21 AM

OMG, what rednecks!

Guilty as sin too.

by Anonymousreply 563February 2, 2023 2:33 AM

The whole family is despicable, even the ones he murdered.

by Anonymousreply 564February 2, 2023 4:57 PM

I know, Twitter is a Hellscape, etc. But this SC journalist has excellent trial coverage.

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by Anonymousreply 565February 2, 2023 7:00 PM

So did Paul and Maggie eat dinner with AM at Moselle that evening? Has this been confirmed? How cold blooded can one person be to sit and have a meal with the family you know you are about to murder in cold blood.

by Anonymousreply 566February 3, 2023 12:28 AM

Married couples have dinner together while wanting to murder each other all the time, R566! It's part of married life!

And I really don't think AM planned to kill Paul, I think Paul wandered into the murder of his mother.

by Anonymousreply 567February 3, 2023 12:35 AM

R567- I believe he very much planned to kill Paul in order to blame the murders on revenge for the boating accident.

by Anonymousreply 568February 3, 2023 12:45 AM

R566 According to the autopsies "similar stomach contents" were found in Maggie and Paul. So they at least ate together. Alex, who the hell knows? I wouldn't put it past him.

by Anonymousreply 569February 3, 2023 2:33 AM
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