The Gays and Tennis Part 124: The Finals

Ons team

and NK team

Ons and Kyrgios. I really don't like either Kyrgios or Djokovic, but just to mix it up at this wacky Wimbledon.

"Ons JabeUUUR." "THank you, Ms. JabeUUUR." Great John Houseman name.

Thank you OP!

Anyone who says they want Prick to win needs to take a step back from their own crazy.

You do not seriously want him to have 'Wimbledon Champion' next to his name for the rest of eternity.

This is the Men's Final I wanted!

R4, I'd rather see that than #21 next to a certain other player.

"Anyone who says they want Prick to win needs to take a step back from their own crazy.

You do not seriously want him to have 'Wimbledon Champion' next to his name for the rest of eternity."

Are you talking about Kyrgios or Djokovic?

Felix's most recent tweet somewhat redeems his dismal Wimby showing.

Ons Jabeur and I dont give a fuck about the mens match. They are both clowns.

I'm grateful that Jabeur got married before her lesbianism became an issue at home. And by home I mean that her brothers and father don't have to murder her. Whew!

Ons looks considerably less dykey (but still dykey) off court - like a thick, plain brunette who would date Black guys in America. Maybe she's not a lesbian, or maybe it's a marriage of convenience - he looks like he'd be a good gay. Lol. If she is a lesbian, who is her secret WTA tour lover, per the Lifetime Movie?

They’re all lesbians. All of them!

As a palate cleanser, here's Gustavo Fernandez, actual hottest man on tour who sadly lost his semi today :(

Ons is a terrific person by all accounts.

Especially as we are heading into a men’s final clash between Worse and Worser, we should treasure having a good one to root for.

As for the men’s final, here are my thoughts.

I was Djokovic fan before he became an anti-vaxxer. My respect for him is now gone.

That said, would I rather he, an asshole, won? Or if someone with no respect for the game and his competitors won? (and no respect for his GF’s wellbeing, allegedly.)

Edge to Djokovic.

If Nick wins, I think he might cry and if he lost, he might cry too.

I concede that Novak will go down as the best ever. I think it's Rafa. Hands down. But stats don't lie.

Novak will have more slams than Rafa eventually, already has a massive amount of more weeks at number one (a totally useless stat, imo, other than to help seed tournaments, but it is highly values by others), YE number ones (a stat with much greater importance), etc.

But no way in hell is he a good enough grass courter to have 7 Wimbys. Last year was a joke. So is this year (and he'll destroy Nick). Stupid Fed BLEW 2019. Fed also blew a couple more earlier in Novak's career.

No one thinks Novak is as good on grass as Sampras. And Sunday he will tie him for titles.

Who would have thought, 20 years ago, that Wimby would be the slam with the least value?

For the first time, men's wheelchair and doubles might make for more attractive matches. They'll probably have the wheelchair final on a larger court than previous years, especially because there's a Brit, Hewett, in the final. They were on No. 1 today for the semi, and Hewett said that was a last minute decision the night before. Disability sport usually pales in comparison to the able-bodied counterpart, but, genuinely, wheelchair tennis is entertaining and impressive. I'm thankful they might get the bigger courts for a final because it really was appalling having them on tiny courts in previous years - I understand there's a lot of traffic even at this end of the championships - but still.

And I do like Mektic and Pavic - don't know what the DL consensus is on them - but from the little I've seen of them on and off court they seem very likable - and I do love a Croatian!

[quote] Disability sport usually pales in comparison to the able-bodied counterpart

Yeah, the able-bodied counterparts often get away with murder!

A more sickening Wimbledon Final there has never been!

It’s the DSM-5 dream final.

I think the grass of Novak's era is a little different than that of Pete's, though. More like a hard court.

They've been screwing with the grass almost constantly since the early 2000s. Wimbledon was as slow as red clay the years that Nadal managed to win it.

You're insane if you think the grass in 2008 was as slow as Roland Garros, R23.

Matteo.

They only changed the grass once. It was a fairly substantial change that made it, generally, somewhat slower (but by no means "slow) and higher bouncing (but not "high" bouncing) than the previous grass. But, it's still grass and still substantially different from hard courts and clay. And even previous era-Wimbledon the grass could play like a hard court once it got worn down and if it was warm and it got dried out. Both before and after the they changed the grass mixture, grass courts require particular movement (especially first week when it's slicker and the brown patches haven't shown up) and ability to deal with never fully secure footing. Plus, there will always be the uneven, erratic bounces that you'd never see on a hard court.

Damm Felix is ripped. Like 0% body fat.

Whatever else you think of Novak, his game is absolute perfection. He's like a machine, technically perfect and efficient groundstrokes with perfect posture. Also, the insance arrogance that got him kicked out of Australia is the same arrogance that won him that final against Federer in 2019.

You're right, R28. He has a flawless game.

he won't be at the US open so that's good.

That's also the arrogance that will keep him away from another Slam until May 2023. And time is not on his side. It'll be nice to see him decline.

R31, Australia already changed the rules

I wonder if they'll allow him entry after what he pulled last time.

They won't allow Russians to play, but trash like Nick Kyrgios is allowed in.

The mens final will be a 90 minute shitshow because Nick won't feel like playing.

So fucking sick of this slam.

I'm still holding out hope that Borat makes an appearence if Elena Rybakina wins.

Thanks, R26. Great summary.

lmao it's the men's final that the ATP deserves. I hope it's a fucking shitshow. I'll laugh so hard to see the snooty Wimby elites crying about their precious court being defiled with "royals" there. The state of the men's game has been shit for years now and I'm sick of Wimbledon's arrogance

obviously Novaxx Djocovid is the favorite but I won't be surprised Kyrgios pulls off the win, then parties for a weeks back home before the legal drama keeps him out of the USO and he retires

Hoping for Jabeur to make history in the ladies' final but Rybakina is the favorite if she plays like she did against Halep especially with that serve. She's playing how Pliskova should have played in the last few years but blew it

will both be smashing their rackets?

Djokovic will get pissed if the crowd backs Kyrgios especially if Kyrgios hits an "oh my god" exhibition style winner

you just know Djokovic is thinking to himself he should be more popular than Kyrgios

R34 They won't allow Russians to play but a Muscovite is in the womans final and a cut of her prize money will go straight to Putin's war. She still trains at the Spartak club in Moscow lol. This has actually been such a mess of a slam - from that Serena shitfest on day one, to the domestic violence charges for the mens finalist, to the Rafa withdrawal and the crowd being forced to watch womens doubles, and especially Pam Shriver dancing to an off-key Cliff Richards.

Hopefully Jabeur can at least give us some positive news in the final. And while I respect Djokovic's game, it's very monotonous and defensive. An incredible player yes, but I got more excitement this year watching Pierce vs Bartoli in the legends doubles...

Old grass courts were boring as hell. Those Sampras-Ivanisevic finals were ace after ace after ace.

And people are really crazy if they think Novak and Rafa wouldn't win Wimbledon in the 90's when Andre Agassi won it. Yes, Nole won't be a dominant force, but he will manage to win a couple of times at least

By the way betting is getting a little out of control.

Spanish teen (17) Daniel Mérida went to twitter to tell he was insulted and threatened after losing a match

R38 Nole does a lot better when the crowed is against him. He feeds himself with the hate, that's his strength. The only single time he was the massively beloved crowd's fave was at the US Open last year for making the Calender Slam and he was paralyzed by pressure and fear and flopped.

Nick Kyrgios draw was a joke. The only top he played was Tsitsipas who is pretty bad on grass

Rybkina team

r42, Exactly, he doesn't even do well in Belgrade, the only place he is beloved. Plus, center court is always well behaved. It's Kyrgios who insists on acting like a petulant teenager. He knows he could have been defaulted in the first round and instead of acting grateful he chooses to aggravate everyone on purpose. I'm hoping for a 5 hour marathon of the best tennis we've ever seen.

If Kyrgios acts like an asshole, he'll hear about it and I can't imagine how he'd handle shouts of "Go home and beat your girlfriend".

I think it will depend of how Djokovic starts the match. If he is focused Kyrgios will implode.

Kyrgios fans think he is like the second coming, that he is unbeatable when he is focused when the truth is he is an obviously talented player but with a mediocre backhand, and not physically or mentally strong

R17 Rafa has year end no. 1 pretty much wrapped up. He has no summer points to defend, so if he just makes semis at USO, and wins a few other tournaments no one can catch him.

Given the lax Covid standards now, the US looks kind of silly banning the non vaxxed. I know someone on their 3rd round of Covid, and his workplace didn't ask him to stay home or to isolate himself at work. He got only 1 vaccine shot.

Looking forward to this final. Rooting for Ons!

Have a feeling that Kyrgios will do something crazy tomorrow. Either he will get defaulted. Or just quit. Or maybe win it all. Who knows.

Jabeur is doing what Halep couldn't. Returning some first serves and moving Rybakina around more.

It really is a huge relief and rare treat to be able to watch a women's match and neither player is screaming and grunting at all.

Rybakina spraying errors. Ons really looks like the her mom and dad. Not that that's unusual, but it's not always so pronounced.

The commentators just said the winner of set 1 has won the last 14 years. Good luck Rybakina lol

Ons' hubby is cute.

Ons team.

When Rybakina is on it's hard to beat. She isnt great at net though.

Rybakina seems like a nice enough woman, but if she wins this (born and trains in Moscow), this is going to make a mockery of this Wimbledon's Russian 'ban'.

All it will take is a Kyrgios win and it's a total dumpster fire.

Tammy Cruise at the match.

I hate this

"Rybakina seems like a nice enough woman, but if she wins this (born and trains in Moscow), this is going to make a mockery of this Wimbledon's Russian 'ban'."

The ban is for players playing under Russia's flag, not ethnic Russians. It's stupid, but the standard is clear, so I don't see how this makes a mockery of the ban - beyond all the reasons it was already mockable.

Hilarious that basically a Russian player wins after the ban. She represents Kazakhstan but is actually Russian.

Jabeur hasn’t played well. Rybakina has dominated.

Bit of a damp squib of a Final.

Rybakina acts like she doesn't fucking care. Such a flat personality.

Onsuccessful.

Classy response to winning by Rybakina. Good for her. Her sister is also very pretty.

she doesn't even look tired. she's gotta be on something, this russian cunt!

where is On's husband?

R64 I was thinking the same. Barely thanked the audience. Poor Jabeur taking it hard.

What does On possess?

Her reaction to winning was like.......meh.

They're showing the Alcaraz/A. Zverev French Open match on Tennis Channel. More interesting than the women's final and better eye candy.

The Russian trying to appear cool, she shed a few tears, she was wiping them away

It's hard to feel enthusiastic about this weekend. I love Ons as a person but her draw was such a cake walk compared to Rybakina's and the media hype favoring her was ridiculous. And there's no winner on the men's side, they're both extraordinary assholes even though I was huge fans of both in the past.

The banter between Chris Evert, World's Worst Tennis Commentator, and Fowler, non-tennis commentator, is inane.

I've set my eyes on Rybakina since her breakthrough during lockdowns in 2020. I like her old school Russian-Kazakh game. Was disappointed in her later seasons, especially that atrocious loss to Svitolina at the Olympics. I would have never imagined to see her winning Wimbledon this year.

Yeah, WWTC is aggressive bad.

Wagon Wheel Tennis and Pickleball Center?

Because of getting no points if Rybakina doesnt have big results the rest of the year the WTA finals might be not have the Wimbledon champ.

Ry is a cheater. Like ALL Russian she a cheater. She IS Russian and should have never been aloud to play at Wim. I’ll bet she’s juiced like all Russian athletes.

You can say that aloud, R80!

“I eat old people’s excrement!”

Ebden/Purcell team or ic, Mekt/ic, Pav team?

[quote] Magnificent mullet

Which white male players have yellow skin?

Congrats to the first ever Kazakh player to win a slam!!!

R86, she will dress in national costume for the post-victory photo shoots.

Her grandfather and little brother must be so proud!

Ugh, Putin supporters are out in force pushing Russian propaganda. Even though there are dozens of players playing for countries they aren't ethnically originally from or were born in.

I think it's embarrassing for Russia that they let a Wimbledon winner slip the net because they didn't provide her with enough support.

[quote] because they didn't provide her with enough support

And heart condition medication.

There should be a citizenship requirement for representing a country. Like how Osaka, who is very much an American, is a Japanese citizen and chooses to represent Japan. It’s a little unseemly to just wear the flag of your highest bidder.

Russians always cheat.

The Russian was quite charmingly nervous during her acceptance speech. It was hard not to like her after hearing that.

'She lives in Moscow, her parents live in Moscow….she's Russian!': Fury as tennis fans mock Wimbledon's ban on Russian players competing in this year's event after Moscow-born Elena Rybakina won her first Grand Slam title on Centre Court

The women's final was poor quality. I can't imagine either of these pretenders taking on vintage Williams sisters, Davenport, or even Graf.

Ons was offs.

Mattek-Sands and Mektic should play doubles.

R92 If there was a citizenship requirement we'd get a lot of players playing for Monaco. I think quite a few reside in Florida too?

Wimbledon never banned Russian players, even if that was printed over and over. It banned players representing Russia. There's a difference. The ban was still ridiculous but I don't think Rybakina winning is quite the "gotcha" moment that people are making it out to be.

The double standards are incredible. R88 I bet you do the same thing for "Spanish" Davidovich Fokina, "American" Anisimova or Tiafoe or "Colombian" Farah, right? You either always believe in ethnic nationalism or always believe in civic nationalism. She naturalized Kazakhstani for her career because Russian were neglecting her. You queens would have gotten the Saudi citizenship to be a multi millionaire tennis star. Hypocrites.

Exactly. This was a political decision so it's the flag that matters because countries regularly use sport to promote their nation (the reason why so many countries try to buy players from other nations).

Em Rad was born in Canada. Romanian dad. Chinese mother. Grew up in the UK. There are so many players with mixed elements like that.

Agree about the double standards, R101, but Anisamova or Tiafoe as examples? They were both born and raised in America and never played for any other country.

MUZZA'S PAIN ‘This really hurts’ – Andy Murray’s heartbreaking post after beloved dog ‘Maggie Mayhem’ dies during Wimbledon fortnight

Murray and his wife Kim have had Maggie, who was affectionately nicknamed “Maggie Mayhem” by the couple, back in 2008.

The pair, parents to four children, also added another dog named Rusty to their family in 2011.

The two border terriers became huge hits with his fans too after a Twitter account was created by the tennis legend in their honour.

However, now Murray and his loved-ones are mourning the loss of Maggie after he broke the devastating news to his social media followers last night.

Along with photos of him cuddling Maggie and a cute one of the pup lying down, he wrote: “Today our family said goodbye to this amazing little dog. She was a huge part of our family and our first pet so this really hurts.

“Give your pets a big cuddle tonight cause it stings when you can’t anymore. Thanks Maggie Mayhem you were an absolute star.”

Poor Misery. He must be miserable right now.

Prior to starting a large family with Murray, Kim Sears was a painter of animals in general but especially pet portraits. The website for her services no longer exists, but the old Instagram's still up. She used to run a Twitter account for Maggie as well.

At least the Men's Doubles is worthy of a Grand Slam Final - 4 all in the fifth. Nip and tuck all the way.

Dame Maggie Smith at the ladies' final.

Ebden and Purcell performing a perfectly synchronised collapse onto the court after they won was hilarious. It seemed to be totally unrehearsed and coincidental.

Plus Ebden was showing an almighty bulge flat out on the grass. A nice way to win.

"It banned players representing Russia." - What a crock, r100. As has been said over and over, players do not represent their countries at Wimbledon or all tennis matches aside from the few team matches and the Olympics. Serbia doesn't "win" whenever Djokovic wins. The Serbian national anthem is not played when he receives the trophy.

Sad for Jabeur but her level really dipped after the first set which isn't surprising. She has been a real headcase in finals

Rybakina played awful in the first set and then raised her level for the rest of the match so the win is deserved. Yes, it's definitely an opportunity for Russian nationalists to troll Wimbledon. Rybakina was born in Russia and still lives there so she's Russian just playing under a different flag. If she had moved to Kazakhstan it would be different.

R101 Tiafoe, Anisimova and Davidovich Fokina are not valid examples. They were all born in and still live in the countries they play for. Most posters here aren't talking about Rybakina being an ethnic Russian but rather someone who lives in Russia despite playing for another country

Osaka for example is American who plays for Japan. Yes she's half Japanese and Haitian but we know her life is in the US. She's still learning to speak Japanese. The USTA was quite foolish to turn her down but it can be hard to predict in the juniors who's going to be a great pro player.

Rybakina could use her newfound fame to speak out against the Russian war in Ukraine. We'll see what she chooses to do.

Tarpischev predictably trolls

Rybakina indicates she's in an awkward position and doesn't give clear answers which is understandable

Men's doubles was brilliant, at least I feel satisfied ahead of tomorrow.

off topic, but i love love to envision seeing tiafoe's amazing gravity defying jutting bubble butt glistening from his shower walking around with that corn cob up his butt strut! whew!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope that during the final Kyrgios acts batshit crazy like the asshole he really is and throws Djokovic into a head exploding meltdown. The only silver lining in this final is that ranking points will not be awarded for Wimbledon 2022.

Kyrgios won't do anything, the fact it's the final on Centre Court will put his tail between his legs.

Maybe Novak drops the first set, as is his new tradition.

Sun high in the sky, cap on, game over.

6-7

6-2

6-2

6-0

R111 Russia cant really take credit for her success though. It's annoying to see Russians on social media doing just that. In 2018 she would have had to play college tennis in America instead of turning pro if not for the support from Kazakhstan. Her success in tennis is not because she is from Russia.

I find it hilarious that even if Djokovic wins tomorrow he drops out of the top 5.

R111 also even if like the Osaka example they couldn't predict how good she would be then they dont get to afterward take credit for the success. But the USTA didnt do that like Russia has.

R115 it's never off-topic to mention the glorious butt of Tiafoe. He has the best butt in tennis. If only he'd start winning more fucking titles.

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This irked Djokovic, who said that he had no respect for Kyrgios off the court. 'Off the court, I don’t have much respect for [Kyrgios], to be honest,' he said.

With some further comments in between, the relationship appeared to be at a point of no return. However, an unlikely 'bromance' has fostered and the two players are likely to greet each other with warmth ahead of the first serve in Sunday's match.

When the first shot goes down, however, there is unlikely to be any love lost between the two mavericks.

R115, his ass really is a thing of beauty. Plus he has that stiff, stuttered walk. On tennis forums, people suggest he has tight hamstrings or he's purposely semi-strutting because he's a showman. I, of course, like to think it's because he had his ass tore up the night before, taking massive dick, as that ass should.

Cringe-worthy indeed

Kyrgios really needs to win to put a final exclamation point on Bizarro Wimbledon.

If that back and forth between Kyrgios and Dokovic is for real, I wonder if Nick is stupid enough to think any of the after-match plans will come to fruition.

Are they having the champion's dinner this year?

the Newport draw is out and wow it's their best in YEARS! I can't recall when it was so un-challenger-like

top 4 seeds have byes

notables:

top seed FAA will open against Thompson or Kubler who just played well at Wimbledon

#2 seed Isner will open against Humbert or Gojowczyk

#3 seed Bublik will open against Sock or Albot

#4 Cressy will open against new DL fave and grass lover Van Rijthoven or a qualifier

#6 Murray vs. Querrey

#7 Vesely vs. Lopez

Bastad has a great field

top 4 have byes

#1 Ruud will open against F. Cerundolo or qualifier

#2 Rublev will open against F. Coria or qualifier

#3 Schwartzman will open against E. Ymer or Altmaier

#4 RBA will open against Thiem or Ruusuvuori

#5 PCB vs. Wawrinka

#6 Basilashvili vs. Gaston

#7 Rune vs. qualifier

#8 Baez vs. Rinderknech

Karatsev vs. Sonego

ADF vs. J. Sousa

Musetti vs. Djere

Speaking of Tiafoe's ass, apparently other players notice too. From years ago, Tommy Paul asked a great question:

Fun fact, Rybakina is only the third tennis player from an Asian country (or representing an Asian country in case you want to argue) that won a grad slam singles champion. The first one is Li Na from China (2011 FO, 2014 AO), the second Naomi Osaka from Japan (2019/20 USO, 2020/21 AO), Rubakina came as the 3rd from Kazakhstan, an central Asian nation.

But she's not from Asia Asia.

Eurasian

[quote] It's annoying to see Russians on social media doing just that.

R118 They do it because the stupid Wimbledon banned Russian players, now a Russian girl has won it, of course they are going to mock Wimbledon, you would do the same thing too if this happened to you/your country. If not for this stupid Russian ban, I doubt anyone in Russia would care that much, if there is any argument or case to be made, it would be criticism against their own Russian Federation for not funding her.

I'm watching the final since I missed it and I'm having a really hard time believing that Ons Jabeur is straight. The relationship with her husband seems real but she could be one of those 'comphet' (compulsory heterosexuality) people especially considering where she's from.

^ where is she from? 19th century? She plays tennis for prize money, I don't think getting married is required for women to play sports in her country, or is it?

R136 Tunisia is a pretty conservative and Muslim country. Don't forget that often it's more about family than about the country too. Family may have problems with gay people and most people don't want to be estranged from their community.

could be but there is really no need for her, she could move to Monaco to live freely like many others, no need to stay in her country. Tennis is most "pro" and individual sports on earth, a player runs his or her own sports business, coaching, training, touring, management... entirely on their own, an outside support system is neither necessary nor needed.

Jabeur looks like she could be Conchita Martinez' daughter

Yeah but the thing with comphet is that it's often people who just think that it's what they're supposed to do (there's a phenomenon of late in life women coming out after being married to a man). HOWEVER, she could be straight for sure but just pings. There are people like that.

I love how the commentators were saying 'Someone tell her (Elena) that she's won this' while Ons looked completely and genuinely devastated.

Girls like Rybakina and Naomi Osaka who have huge serves and powerful ground strokes are extremely hard to play, yes others can beat them or even beat them convincingly on the scoreboard, but on court the match almost always depends on how they play, not their opponents. If they have their serves game under control, their opponents can only watch from a distance, that's what we saw yesterday, once Rybakina settled down, her own service games were mostly a breeze, that put Jabeur under immense pressure to keep up with her, and Jabeur cracked under pressure, her game plan collapsed. Jabeur even had a chance to break back with 3 break points, but Rybakina saved all three with non returnable serves, we can only imagine how devastated Jabeur must feel, her only chance to turn that match around vanished in minutes and there was nothing she can do about it.

Kyrgios better win to shut that bloody Jokeivic clown up.

This translated interview is quite interesting, about the lack of money Rybakina had to launch her tennis career.

In the opening to today's match, ESPN misspelled Nick's name as "KRYGIOS" in huge bold letters. Yikes, really, ESPN?

I don’t care who wins because I don’t like neither of them but hopefully it is good tennis.

I think Ons is just a jock, she doesn't really ping to me.

Djokovic will probably win this in 4, perhaps dropping the opening set like in last year's final.

Breakfast where?

any stars in the royal box? I just woke up and turned on the TV

I'm watching it with the sound off. Far less stressful.

Kyrgios is jawdroppingly good. I just want Covid to lose.

omg, stupid cunt Nick tried to play a trick shot and he lost the point. so stupid. he lost that point when he did the under arm serve too.

R150 Me too!

Kate Middleton is there with her son and husband.

Which rom, R154?

Kyrgios wins first set.

I meant “Which son?” at R155.

Kyrgios can play some amazing tennis when he decides to buckle down and get serious about it.

George, the oldest.

Djokovic double faulting on break point... this is the supposed paragon of mental strength, perfect technique, and focus? I have no horse in this race but I don't just want to see Kyrgios servebot his way through like Isner.

I dont like Kyrgios but he is definitely more than a servebot like Isner. Not amazing on the groundstrokes but pretty damn good.

R154 You can write Kate Will and George. We know who they are. Will should wear a hat. He is bold and sitting in the sun for hours is not healthy.

R159 They should have brought Louis too.

Kyrgios seems very businesslike so far. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him quite this focused.

R144 Great interview. Showed what I was writing about her - she should be eternally greatful to Kazakhstan. If anything, it was even more humiliating for Russians, who now look like idiots for not having scouted such a talent.

R103 Because Rybakina was compared to ethnic Kazakhs. Anisimova is ethnically Russian and Tiafoe is ethnically Liberian, two children of recent immigrants.

novaxx is raising his game...he does that on the 2nd set.

I spoke too soon. Now Kyrgios is bitching to his box about something.

And now Kyrgios is broken at love.

Seen this too many times. It's like the arrogant prick loses the first set on purpose.

Much like Jelena Djokovic, I'd shop at Party City if my spouse made the Wimbledon final.

Is that sassy little George at the match?

R171, yes

Do you think Kyrgios is hot. IMO, he's not unattractive, but not HOT. Bad boy image without BDE. The hunched shoulders/slouching bugs me.

Note the caps—Djokovic is the top.

I did think he was 'bad boy' hot at one point, he has beautiful skin and his voice is quite sexy.

But the spray-on hair and fugly tattoos (I normally don't mind tats) plus the try hard 'hood' clothing (basketball jerseys, backwards caps) are a major boner killer. He also has that slender but flabby, skinny-fat body with gangly limbs, the hooked nose, the beady eyes... he's lost it IMO.

What the fuck is Mrs. Djokovic wearing!?

Wimbledon final: the ultimate test of cerebral fitness.

She's raided a 5-year old's Princess Puffball Dress-Up box.

What is Nick going ON about? Perpetually, I mean.

At the moment can Djokovid play the US Open?

It’s almost like Kyrgios has this fear of winning, so he finds ways to self-sabotage.

No, R180.

Not unless he’s given an official exemption, r180. At the moment you still have to be fully vaxxed to get into the US.

Imagine Nick naked.

R183 if that holds and there is no Djokovic then only Nadal stops a new champion from emerging. Or Medvedev which I wouldnt mind since it would just be his second slam.

R176: it’s as if she’s about to start singing ‘I’ve written a letter to daddy’!

I wouldn't mind another Medvedev major. He may play the villain, but he does seem personable off court.

R176, see R170.

no R180

Kyrgios is a thug. He's going to end up hitting a line judge.

Why did Novaxx take his whole bag into the locker room? he doesn't need the bag just to change his shirt!

Oh, please, he's a immature, spoiled, manipulative, and narcissist bully who loves to play the wounded- child victim. Imagine yelling at your friends and family because they aren't cheering for you in a way that meets your standards. He's yelling at his girlfriend's father "Do you want to be in London?" while going home to face an assault charge on his LAST girlfriend. Brilliant. That's beyond self-sabotage to outright sociopathy.

[quote] He's going to end up hitting a line judge.

If he does, let's hope it's Fatty McFaterson. He has he extra cushioning.

[quote] Why did Novaxx take his whole bag into the locker room?

Jelena Djokovic?

What a shame- so much talent- and the mind of an out of control child. After a while I don’t care to watch.

that's his gf's dad? I thought that was nick's dad?

I'm amazed that Djokovic has never twisted/sprained an ankle, or got a knee injury with all of his large splits sliding. All it takes is for the foot to get stuck for a moment.

Wimbledon has had good weather this time. I can remember years past when it rained a lot.

this is terrible. I think Novaxx is gonna win this.

Nick K is such a fucking disappointment!!!

Nick is an asshat man-child. Is his box required to stand and applaud after every point?

Tom Cruise is in the audience and he looked good.

[quote] Tom Cruise is in the audience and he looked good.

McEnroe: Is Tom Cruise sexy? Pretty good shape.

Fowler: Inspiring

McEnroe: Depressing

R202 he asked “is Tom Cruise sixty?”

Ah. Thanks, R203. Misheard.

I would have preferred Rafa to be up against Nick.

Nick is NEVER ever gonna win anything!!!!

"aggro"

[quote] "aggro" —barf

I rolled my eyes when I heard that.

I want realistic predictions on here about how many more majors you all think Nadal and Djokovic can win barring a career ending injury. Hell even with a bad injury I bet they'd find a way. I'd love to see guys like Sinner and Alcaraz step up. I know they can but when will they?

Nick K's level has dropped.

Nick's girlfriend's halter-top(?) designed for quick access to her left boob? Is is a baby-nursing top? Does Nick get left tit on demand?

Nick only uses white towels, but yet he complains about the all white attire there.

R211, no that is Nick's sister. Nick K's gf is sitting at the end of the row wearing black sunglasses.

[quote] Does Nick get left tit on demand?

He just likes to hit it and shake it about a bit when she misbehaves.

Nick K's sister is too fat to be wearing that skimpy top. I believe that guy next to her is Nick's dad.

Nick's mom is not there coz she is in poor health.

Earlier in the set play was interrupted when a man was removed by security.

Soon afterwards, Australian political activist Drew Pavlou tweeted that he was the spectator, writing: 'Just got thrown down the stairs by Wimbledon security for holding up a sign saying #WhereIsPengShuai. One of them smashed my head into the wall.'

C'mon Nick! One slam, parties himself into oblivion, found guilty of multiple assaults, never heard from again.

Is Goran married? He would be stunning in full leather and a jockstrap.

It’s exhibition match.

yes, it's Goran is married, he's 50.

And a homophobe.

R213 Looking trashy. But so is Nick, basic trash.

Novaxx is too good mentally, he hasn't been rattled by Nick K's crazy rants or behavior. He's gonna win this.

Please let this be Djokovic's last Wimbledon or grand slam in general. The end has to come for everyone at some point.

Over.

Worst. Wimbledon. Ever.

he's eating the grass.

R224 There’s no point retiring when you win everything.

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Kyrgios sucks. I want him to beat Djokovic but he sucks. Arguing constantly.

Djokovic's serve wasn't really there the whole match and he still won.

Nick quickly flouts the rules and puts on the red hat. Shoes next?

Of course KUNTios had to put on a red cap. Ass.

Nick wearing red cap. No manners

R228 not saying retire. I'm saying these young guys step it fuck up against a guy closer to 40 than 30. Anyway fuck this Wimbledon. It was awful. On to the US Open were Djokovid doesn't win nearly as much.

Now Djokovic can get the championship trophy from Kate and her ugly son.

Is DL legend Princess Michael there?

yeah, like that poster upthread said, he self sabotages and wastes mental energy screaming at his box, the ref. stupid cunt should have been focusing on his game.

Get out your insulin for Djokovic's SMARMY acceptance speech. He'll transparently feign humility ...

Novaxx is emotional too.

I guess he is to be admired for his mental toughness.

I called it at R147 (I am usually horrid at predictions!). I was kind of hoping for a better match, but it feels like the 'right result' (especially since Novak actually won the full 7 matches). But I also hope this is Djokovic's last major. Despite winning more Wimbledons than Sampras, he doesn't feel as good of a grass courter. And his wife needs to stop shopping like she's looking for a last minute Coachella outfit at Dollar King. This is Wimbledon, dear.

Kate looks lovely as usual

Kyrgrios is obnoxious.

Novaxx is disingenuous.

The End.

Nick might like to think he’s a bad boy but he repeatedly folds under pressure.

He's going to call Sue Barker 'bruh', isn't he?

Doesn't it just feel right for Djokovid's last major win ever to be against a fuckboy like Kyrgios?

How dare he walk to Kate with that red cap?

i think I heard a few boos when nick K walked to the mic

He did get booed a bit, R248.

Audible "boos". I am not a fan of Kyrgios but wanted him to win because I loathe Djokovic. However, wearing that red cap sealed the deal for me; as R241 wrote it feels like the 'right result'

Not removing his cap is tacky as fuck.

At least he didn't make a total of arse of himself with that speech. Small mercies.

Of all the things to care about...who cares whether or not he wears a cap to meet these fucking parasites from some tradition that should have died before the18th century?

Haha, Novak back-pedalling on all the bro-ing out with Nick

(By "parasite," I'm talking about the Duchess, not Sue Barker, who has earned her keep.)

wow, novak had that speech prepared already LOL.

I'm glad this is over. What a shitshow. Top 4 Russians were banned. Berrettini, Cilic and PCB were out with Covic. Worse part is the cunt Kyrgios was in the final.

Ic, Cov for doubles partner.

So the trophies have been won by a Russian and a vaccine denier! A Wimbledon to forget. I do hope the US keeps its ban on non-vaccinated visitors.

I've spent less than two hours of cumulative watch time for the whole Wimbledon 2022 edition, half of which being allocated to the Serena fiasco against Tan. This is so NOT me. But anyway, Prissy Pants is now relegated to third best player and former GOAT, a.k.a a footnote of tennis history, and I guess that'll make my day for want of anything more exciting.

Djokovic does not have more Wimbledon titles than Sampras. He and Sampras both have seven. Federer has eight.

Hopefully Wimbledon will be pressured into bringing in Hawkeye calls given the amount of bad calls by the line judges in this match.

[quote] against Tan

Cunt.

Again its hilarious that Djokovic is now 7 in the world after winning Wimbledon. Rankings dont really matter but still.

When is Newport Rhode Island Open?

nick k is sitting down and looking at his phone.

Johnny mac wishes Novaxx can play the US open

All tournaments should just go to electronic line calling and ditch line judges. The technology is there. Just use it. Other tournaments have used it and it removes the doubt and bad calls.

I figured Kyrgios would lose. Djokovic is just too solid. Still, Nick kept it closer than I thought. Kyrgios just brain farted at the worst moments, especially when he had triple break point and at the beginning of the fourth set tiebreak. In the end, that's really no surprise.

What are you talking about, r264?

To the hardcourts we go. Which Nadal and Djokovic win a lot but especially at the US Open they dont absolutely own like Wimbledon and the French. It seems like hard courts even out the playing field a bit.

R253, they are called benefit scroungers!

R253, all white is a Wimbledon rule. Not wearing a cap is respect for everyone. Wearing a red cap at the Wimbledon award ceremony shows that Kyrgios thinks he's better than everyone.

R268 Djokovic lost points even though he won and is down to 7 in the world.

Nick should really get his sister a stylist. Her outfit was the worst part of the match for me: a swimsuit top, pants that drew attention to her camel toe, a fugly blazer, tacky red lips, blue nail polish, expensive I'm sure yet cheap looking jewellery, and her hair styled in a way that makes her look like a greasy spaniel. Get it together, girl!

Zhang/Mertens team or ova, Siniak/ova, Krejcik team?

Nice to see Laver and Stan Smith still around.

Prince George: future faaaaaaaaag!

Great final. Hooray for Novak, the GOAT. Love Nick, too. All you Novak and Nick haters, SUCK IT.

novak definitely appreciates it more now that he's older. I saw him cry into the towel.

I hope thiem gets back his form soon!

There is no way they will life the vaccine requirement. The positive cases are increasing again.

Domicakes team.

*lift

sorry typo

Well, yeah, r272, because Wimbledon was excluded from the rankings this year. And a Russian still won!

I hope they don't lift the vax mandate.

A lovely and emotional farewell to Sue Barker on the BBC just now.

"All tournaments should just go to electronic line calling and ditch line judges. The technology is there. Just use it. Other tournaments have used it and it removes the doubt and bad calls."

Yep. Even if the system is perfect, even if it was calibrated wrong and off by a millimeter, players accept it; they have no choice.

"Again its hilarious that Djokovic is now 7 in the world after winning Wimbledon. Rankings dont really matter but still."

They matter for seeding and the draw. With Novak ridiculously at 7, he could play Nadal in a Slam quarterfinal instead of a semi or final, which would make much more sense.

I meant "even if the system isn't perfect."

Who are top player for USA Open?

Come on Zhang & Mertens. The Czech duo have won so many slams already. They're one of the better doubles teams of the past few years but not '5 majors' good.

I would like to see a picture of the woman who had "700" drinks.

Sue Barker said she was going to sign off BBC One one last time at 8pm ... but then Clare Balding did instead :(

I wanted one last 'buh bye' :(

Hopefully it's because the old girl was already pissed off her knickers, swinging off Deliciano, et cetera :)*

So happy Novak won. What say you, haters ?

Siniakova and Krejcikova win the doubles final, 6-2 6-4. They were too good today, I wonder if Krejcikova can come back to top 5 form in singles now that her injuries have healed. Still bizarre to me that she is a French Open singles champion.

If Novaxx could behave as he did today in all matches going forward I might consider liking him again. He suppressed his bizarre personality today, and he was almost tolerable.

R295 yeah, I dislike him, but admire his drive and talent, and can tolerate him when he reins in the megalomania.

He can also sound, and possibly be, gracious on occasion.

Novaxx was indeed the lessor of two evils today. Kyrios needs professional help.

No, Kyrgios needs to be put down like the rabid skunk he is.

Yeah, Kyrgios is disordered; which is quite sad.

the man is already 27. He acts like a teenager. hopeless.

I saw a YT clip of an octopus trying to get a fish out of a jar with a closed lid. At first, it failed but it then took 10 minutes to think about it and came back and solved the puzzle. It's genius how Novak tests everyone's game and then adjusts his own to gain control and figure them out.

Candid comments with Pat Mac. were interesting.

most hilarious post of the day goes to R247 who was OUTRAGED about Kyrgios "daring" to walk up to Middleton "in a red cap" as if she's somehow too good for that?

Of all things to be mad about, that's not 1 of them. The 2 worst aspects of Wimbledon are 1) the all-white clothing nonsense and 2) its attachment to the outdated, absurd notion of "royalty"

All white is one of the best things about Wimbledon.

Agreed, R303. Those awful, colorful outfits at other tournaments are distracting and detract from the tennis and players.

Especially when the mens wear color man panties.

I really like the all-white look. It's part of what makes Wimbledon special and looks good. Every other tournament allows mixed colors anyway, so it's only for one tournament.

Yes, and they bully people into telling them that size is beautiful.

tradition for tradition's sake is idiotic

clothing color should be optional. There's nothing "cleaner" or "superior" about wearing white. It's just an old snooty tradition so the Wimby elites think they're still better than anyone else. Such a turnoff thank goodness other tournaments aren't like that

1 thing to praise Kyrgios for is shoving it up their ass with the red shoes and cap

Kyrgios makes me cringe when he does it - it's like a petulant teenager who thinks he's edgy for rebelling.

Here's Rybakina at the champion's ball - think you may enjoy her choice of footwear at least?

Is she lez?

Rybakina looks good!

I was thinking she is probably too tall for heels and doesn't know how to walk in them? Not sure. They are Gucci and not Adidas.

Here's what Novak wore.

Rybakina serving bridal realness at the Wimbledon ball

a dress with sneakers is just NO

Djokovic has great shoes at R313.

Djoko looks good too - not hard with his build; he's runway material

[quote] he's runway material

Quite.

Can you say GOAT ?

That was from 15 years ago. Now Djokovic looks like a desiccated scarecrow.

Wimby all white should be rigorously enforced for Djere, Tiafoe, McDonald, Berrettini, Felix, etc. I couldn't care less whether Kyrgios or Novaxx show up in Bozo suits.

As in bears a strong resemblance, R319?

[quote] Wimby all white should be rigorously enforced for Djere, Tiafoe, McDonald, Berrettini, Felix

Why them specifically?

Can we add Tommy Paul too?

Paul has no ass

typical slender build

R322, the answer resides in R124.

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Rybakina's face looked so much prettier on court and even at the espn desk yesterday. Not sure if it's bad makeup or the outfit color but her face looks completely washed out and older

Does this not look like a wedding photo to anyone else?

Where's her wife?

Thank you, R325.

If Rybakina was a mail-order bride, R328.

[quote] Does this not look like a wedding photo to anyone else?

Yes. See R314.

There's a rumor she's dating her coach.

so yeah the men's game continues to suck. Every fucking year those of us who aren't up the big 2's asses think "this could be the season when the domination ends!" and every fucking time we're disappointed

I don't like Medvedev but enjoyed his stopping of Djokovic's calendar slam last year. I thought when he reached this year's AO final he'd be the new ATP hardcourt king but nope he choked so bad up 2 sets and with break point to run away with it. That match seemed to foreshadow the first half of the year with Nadal accepting numerous chokes from other opponents this season. Then we get to RG with the top half being the draw from hell. New it-boy Alcaraz wasn't quite ready for the moment and got tight against the odious Zverev, who then suffered a freak injury while giving Nadal hell in their QF match. Then Djokovic chokes against Nadal in the SF with 5-3 set point in the 4th set. Then Ruud gets demolished in the final. Then we get Wimbledon and the most in-form grass play Berrettini gets covid so he withdraws. Everyone knew that Djokovic, Nadal and Kyrgios were the only contenders but Kyrgios mentally wasn't tough enough.

I hope Nadal is healthy for the USO but how many times can it be said? The men's tour is a mess. It's too late for the guys in their mid to late 20s to redeem themselves at this point. The hope is with the younger guys that they'll be able to beat the big 2 before they fucking turn 40!

It really is unbelievable that yet again at least 3 of the 4 slams this year have gone to the big 2.

r326, GOD DAMN! Djokovic is so FUG! Tall skinny head with close dime eyes and Dumbo ears. And that NOSE! Yikes! He must have a pencil dick.

Ben Rothenberg and Jelena Djokovic got into a little Twitter spat about vaccines! hahaha.

yes, you see their bulges much better in their all white attire. but i noticed this year, the men were wearing longer shorts! except for Nadal.

all white is tradition. which is good.

I think she looks horrible in that dress! She looked so slim with a nice figure on court but that dress makes her look fat.

she doesn't look happy in that pic with novaxx.

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All that money and they still look like benighted Balkan bogans.

It's hard to imagine, but Federer is now THIRD in the all-time Grand Slam list.

Novaxx's wife went to the champion's dinner in sandals. money can't buy class or taste!

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Djokovic's wife is as dumb as he is and I despise all the Djokotards and antivaxx morons who came out in droves to say she "got" Ben. No she didn't. Djokovic is the loser here. Ben is not "bullying" to post that as of now, Djokovic will be unable to play the USO or that he became a poster boy for the antivaxx movement. Djokovic chose stupidity over science and it could well have cost him the chance for more slams. He's not a victim or a martyr and damn sure does not have moral authority. He's a self-important moron who thinks he knows better than all the experts of the world

As an Australian, I wish I could combine Kyrgios' talent with Alex De Minaur's drive and work ethic. Just imagine the resulting player!

Nadal isn't the GOAT.

His plate is top heavy with French Opens. Without them, how many does he have? Not a lot.

Either Fed or Novaxx should wear that crown.

What was Sue's relationship with former doubles partner, Glynis Coles, like?

Great. Another player who thinks only slams matter (and only the ones he can do well at - obviously no French Open). It's not a surprise Naomi Osaka signed Kyrgios to her agency. Why don't we just cancel every other tournament and only have tennis played 4 times a year? These players are so spoiled and lazy and entitled. I feel for Billie Jean and Navratilova etc. who didn't even play all the slams because they were too busy trying to build a viable tour and a way for players to make a living. The fans and media don't help either, with them all just counting slams to see who wins the 'GOAT race' (who cares? can't we have some good matches instead?).

I remember Becker/Sampras/Agassi/Courier/Rios etc. fighting tooth and nail each week to climb the rankings and win tournaments. Lindsay and Martina H played in something like 16 consecutive tour level finals. No wonder the quality is so weak these days.

Players like Osaka and Kyrgios seem to be afraid of failure.

Kyrgios doesn't even have the right level of ambition and commitment and he's not prepared to put the work in. When Sue Barker asked him at the Wimbledon award ceremony if being in his first Wimbledon final had made him hungry for more, his response was "absolutely not, I'm so tired". He says he and his team were so exhausted as he'd played do much tennis, even though he basically walked into the final when Nadal had to pull out of the semi.

The haters are so funny. Not only is Djokovic horrible in every way but he has to also have a pencil dick! His wife is stupid, low class, and trashy, she wore sandals and a puffy shirt! His parents are awful and his grandparents were war criminals and his brothers are loser potheads and he has a yappy little dog who bites, and his kids are ugly. The end (less).

No-one is arguing Novaxx isn't a turd. It's just you had two equally vulgar people in the final.

Official champions photo.

Now on to the American swing next! Novak will be hoping they'll change the rules otherwise the U.S. Open could be a great opportunity for someone.

Didn't Djokovic's wife wear that pink dress to his grand final match? Get a new outfit, woman!

When does American swing start?

R354 with overall cases on the rise less than 2 months before the US Open I doubt they change the rules.

R352, please elaborate on what's so loveable about your hero in the link.

R349 that's exacly was I was thinking was I was checking the career stats of recent WTA players: only a few big tournaments and that's it. Muguruza (at her peak back at Wimbly), Swiatek, Osaka, Badosa, all ranked really high by having only 2-4 titles, something that would have been unbelievable years and years ago. Fuck me, Badosa was No. 2 with only Indian Wells and nothing else! Osaka was No. 1 with 4 titles. They are just entitled and prissy. Neither Swiatek is humble enough to take part in 250 tournaments. They all need to be slapped.

The men do broadly seem to be plugging away on the circuit, I mean, not Kyrgios, obvs, but most of them.

r358, I don't think that anyone was claiming that Djokovic is lovable. But I believe that the point that r352 was trying to make was that, when it comes to Djokovic, there does seem to be a piling on, which I don't think is really fair. No, I don't agree with his anti-vaccination stance, and it has certainly made me much less of a fan of his, and yes every time he does his post-victory "my love to you" gesture I cringe. But, that said, I do continue to admire his tennis skills, mental toughness, and overall grit. I've said this before, but the thing I admire most about him is that he never settled for being No. 3 in an era with two all-time greats: Federer and Nadal. Most players would have been elated to be Top 10, but Djokovic made the commitment to do what it takes to be No. 1, and for that he has my respect and admiration.

yeah, his wife is definitely a stupid cunt. she believed 5G caused covid or something ridiculous LOL.

Nah, R347. Not how it works. Slams are considered the greatest metric to decide GOAT status. There are four slams. Each one counts the same as the others. Rafa's won every slam twice, btw. And, as of now, he has the most. (Another fun way to look at it: Can you imagine if Rafa had two or three surfaces that were more like clay, like Fed and Novak have? He'd have about 40 slams!)

Rafa is the GOAT until Novaxx passes him in slams. Fed, sadly, is out of the conversation now. He probably is the most talented of the three, but he just didn't accomplish as much as his two rivals.

Rod Laver is the GOAT but he only has 11 Slams.

Rod Laver is a unique case, R364. Because he straddled the open era and pre-open era, he gets grandfathered into the conversation.

But I don't believe anyone thinks of him as the GOAT any longer. What Rafa, Novaxx and Fed have done is just too extraordinary for anyone else to be thoughtfully considered.

Neither Nadal, Novak, nor Roger have won the Grand Slam once, let alone twice.

I am sole GOAT!

For sure, R366. And that means Laver had the greatest season (top two, actually) of all time. That's undisputed. But that doesn't mean he's the greatest of all time.

Laver won 3 of those slams on grass.

were the players drug tested back then?

[quote]Neither Nadal, Novak, nor Roger have won the Grand Slam once, let alone twice

let alone a Golden Slam

it's interesting though that both Nadal and Djokovic have very uneven slam wins.

Djokovic racked up most of his slams at the AO and Wimbledon:

AO 9 RG 2 W 7 US 3

Nadal has obviously has mostly RG followed a handful of USO

AO 2 RG 14 W 2 US 4

while third place Federer is obviously lacking in RG achievement but has won the other 3 a lot:

AO 6 RG 1 W 8 US 5

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Why has Novak won 9 in Australia, but only 3 in the USA?

And while I'm asking questions, who was the first woman Novak greeted when he went up to the Royal Box area? He seemed very happy to see her.

Roger Federer no longer has a ranking.

Medvedev is no. 1, then Zverev, Nadal, Tsitsipas, Ruud, Alcaraz, Djokovic.

r352, you're Serbian. That's why? Everything in your lame loser life hinges on your Serbian background. How sad must you're life be? Get a hobby, hon.

As I recall, novaxx has 2 younger brothers, I wonder why they weren't there. his parents were there.

RAF RIDE Rafael Nadal speeds through water on jet ski on holiday in Formentera after withdrawing from Wimbledon injured

who is the lucky guy?!

POINT TAKEN I am the fan who Nick Kyrgios accused of having ‘700 drinks’ at Wimbledon…I’d only had two and I was supporting him

A TENNIS fan who Nick Kyrgios demanded be thrown out of Centre Court after he accused her of having "700 drinks" says she actually had just one Pimm's and a rosé.

The 27-year-old Australian was furious at Polish lawyer Ania Palus, 32, when she started to talk just as he was about to serve.

Ania, who was ejected temporarily, said she'd only had two drinks and blamed the heat on Centre Court.

She said: "He always says the crowd is against him and I wanted to show we were for him, I wanted to encourage him.

"I only had one Pimm's and one rosé.

"It's the temperature for me, I had no hat. I'm really sorry."

Kyrgios lashed out at the umpire in the third set, pointing out Ania who he thought was too drunk.

He told the umpire: "Why is she still here?

"She's drunk out of her mind and speaking to me in the middle of a game."

When asked to point her out, he said: "The one who looks like she's had about 700 drinks."

Ania was given a bottle of water and allowed back on court for the rest of the final.

Kyrgios repeatedly dropped the f-bomb during yesterday's final - with Prince George looking shocked in the stands as he watched his first-ever Wimbledon match.

A BBC commentator had to tell viewers after the incident yesterday afternoon: “Apologies for the language, it’s live sport, it’s tense”.

The foul language came after Kyrgios had lost a point on his serve before Djokovic went on to clinch his fourth Wimbledon title in a row.

He shouted up towards his girlfriend Costeen Hastzi and sister Halimah, complaining about their apparent lack of support and saying “Do you f****** care at all?”

Kyrgios, due in court in Oz for allegedly assaulting his ex-girlfriend, also yelled: “Just say something... is this not a big enough moment for you?” to his supporters.

Bastad:

PCB def. Wawrinka 7-5 6-4

Djere def. Musetti 6-3 7-5

Roger's winning 5 US Opens looks even more impressive these days. Feels odd that Djokovic only ("only!") has 3 US Opens.

Sampras also won five US Opens.

Yes, Pete was so dominant at the US Open as well.

I think Medvedev will win it again this year.

ESL spotted on this thread.

Connors has 5 US Opens as well! Wow. Connors, Pete, and Roger. That's a great group.

THE AUSTRALIAN OPEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE MOST PRESTIGIOUS GRAND SLAM. THE LORD TOLD ME SO!

R387, I so close too, no?

R359 that's because WTA has restrictions on top 10 players playing 250 events, in theory they can only participate in one 250 event and collect the ranking points, the rest of 250 events in the season will not bring in any ranking points for them, this is to prevent top players harvesting easy points from playing lower ranked in 250 events, top ranked players need to prove and earn their ranks against fellow top players in premiere events.

I didn't know that, you learn something new every day. Looks like the next WTA500 is San Jose CA, August 1.

ATP has similar rules too, only one 250 event will be counted in their ranking points, they can play as many as they want, some top players do schedule two 250 events, mostly for appearance fees, but they can only collect points from one event, the one with the best result. On the flip side, if you are a lower ranked player on the rise, playing consecutive 250 events is a relatively easy way to get you to the the top rank, because if you are wining, you can collect 150~250 points from each event and those points add up really fast, the notable examples were Sara Errani and Simona Halep, they won multiple 250 events in a row and quickly entered top 20 then top 10.

Updated active (and not retired) slam champions and finalists:

[bold] ATP [/bold]

[bold] winners-8 players [/bold]

Nadal - 22

Djokovic - 21

Federer - 20

Murray - 3

Wawrinka - 3

Cilic - 1

Thiem - 1

Medvedev - 1

[bold] finalists-7 players [/bold]

Nishikori - 1

Raonic - 1

Zverev - 1

Tsitsipas - 1

Berrettini - 1

Ruud - 1

Kyrgios - 1

note: all the current slam champions have been to more than 1 final and all current slam finalists have only been in 1 final so far. Also del Potro, Tsonga and Anderson have all retired recently

[bold] WTA [/bold]

[bold] winners-17 players [/bold]

S. Williams - 23

V. Williams - 7

Osaka - 4

Kerber - 3

Kuznetsova - 2

Kvitova - 2

Azarenka - 2

Muguruza - 2

Halep - 2

Swiatek - 2

Ostapenko - 1

Stephens - 1

Andreescu - 1

Kenin - 1

Krejcikova - 1

Raducanu - 1

Rybakina - 1

[bold] finalists-13 players [/bold]

Zvonareva - 2

Pliskova - 2

Errani - 1

Lisicki - 1

Bouchard - 1

Keys - 1

Vondrousova - 1

Brady - 1

Pavlyuchenkova - 1

Fernandez - 1

Collins - 1

Gauff - 1

Jabeur - 1

note: Stosur now only plays doubles and has retired from singles so she wasn't included

The Guardian has a long read about umpires. The long and short of it is that umpires say that there's more attention and pressure on them now and that Hawkeye hasn't seemed to reduce players creating problems.

I think the WTA girlies can play an additional 250 tournament if it's in their home country.

I'm always surprised Venus has only 2 US Opens. It feels like she lost to the eventual champion (usually from a winning position) so many years in a row - Stephens, Henin, Clijsters x2, Serena x172839. I remember seeing her in New Haven and Stanford back in the day and her game was a sight to behold on US hard courts. She didn't even lose before the SF at the Open from her 1997 debut until 2004. So many missed opportunities, she at least should have taken one more.

Rafa is SO injured that he's on a jetski? Bullshit. He withdrew because he didn't want to play Kyrgios and he knew he couldn't beat Djokovic. Fed did the same at the FO 2021, withdrew due to injury to give Berretini the walkover to help him beat Djokovic. 2 days after withdrawing he was on the practice court preparing for Wimbledon.

Good for McEnroe to call him out.

I'm not a Rafa fan, but can you bitches cool it with the relentless 'HE'S NOT AS INJURED AS HE SAYS HE IS' posts? We get it, they are all drama queens. Federer at the RG 2021 as you mentioned, Djokovic playing through a supposedly life threatening ab tear at the AO 2021 and taking a massive medical time out when Tsitsipas was 2 sets up on him in the RG final. Rafa missing Miami every year.

Also in case you are not aware, jet skis do not require any foot dexterity. You just... sit on it and ride, hon. That isn't proof of shit.

R395 you can play as many as 250 tournaments you want, but you will not get points from all those 250 events. The ranking is based on the points you earned from a total of 16 tournaments allowed in the preceding 52 weeks. Among those 16, the points earned from 4x grand slams and 4x 1000 mandatory (IW, Miam...) must be included in your total points, that leaves a player with only 8 other events to add eligible points, among those 8, two must from non mandatory premium 5 events like Cincy or Toronto, so it further narrows the eligible events to 6 only. With the best of 6 rules, it's very rare for a top player to pick points from two 250 events because there are other premium events 480 throughout the year, for a top 10 player, they can play more 250 but it's mostly a waste of time for them, so most top 10 players will only play one 250 event for appearance fees and it usually it's the first one to start the season, some will schedule another one later in the season.

And this is based on the maximum allowed 16 events scenario, rarely a top player even had 16 tournaments scheduled, most are 14 or less for a year, which further reduced their participation in lower ranked tournaments of 250 etc.

r397, He quit because of an ABDOMINAL TEAR , 7mm (!) , not his foot, moron. Now do you want to tell me how you don't use your abdominal muscles on a jet ski?

And Djokovic's "massive medical time out" was a toilet break, but keep fucking that chicken, it works for you.

Thiem team.

Domicakes team.

Rune team or Huesler team?

Is Rune still young enough to be acceptably homophobic?

Venus should have way more Slams than she does, but she seemed happy to let Serena take the spotlight.

Found out that apparently that woman Djok greeted is Claudia Santana, widow of the 1966 Wimbledon champion Manuel Santana.

first ATP Tour win for thiem in 426 days! The Austrian defeats Ruusuvuori 3-6 6-1 7-6

[quote]Rafa is SO injured that he's on a jetski? Bullshit. He withdrew because he didn't want to play Kyrgios and he knew he couldn't beat Djokovic. Fed did the same at the FO 2021, withdrew due to injury to give Berretini the walkover to help him beat Djokovic. 2 days after withdrawing he was on the practice court preparing for Wimbledon.

r396, at least have some self respect and to keep your mental illness between yourself and your therapist.

As Rafa said, he withdrew because he didn't think he could win. He has beaten both Kyrgios and Djokovic on multiple occasions in his career, but knows he needs to be completely on top of his game to get that done. The injury does not allow him to play at the level he knew would be required. He withdrew. End of story.

Yet another first round exit for The Brat... this time at the hands of the unheralded Marc-Andrea Huesler

JAAAAAAA-HAHAHA!

BECKER BREAK Fallen tennis star Boris Becker lands himself ‘cushy’ prison job teaching fellow lags sports science

BORIS Becker has sparked outrage among his fellow inmates by landing a cushy job in jail.

The fallen tennis star has been made a classroom assistant, teaching sports science to other lags at HMP Huntercombe.

But his rapid elevation to the sought-after position has prompted other prisoners’ families to write letters of protest to the governor.

One insider said: “You would normally serve years before getting a job as a classroom assistant as it is seen as a privilege.

“But Becker has been given the job within weeks of being sentenced.

"There is a lot of resentment about it and the families of some prisoners have written letters of complaint.”

Three-times Wimbledon champion Becker was jailed for two and a half years in April for hiding £2.5million of assets and loans to avoid paying debts after being made bankrupt.

He is serving his sentence at the category C prison, near Henley-on-Thames in Oxfordshire.

In his role, the 54-year-old teaches PE theory and the benefits of exercise and diet to cons in a classroom at the jail, which has a high proportion of foreign inmates.

However, he is not working in the jail’s gym as he does not have enhanced prisoner status because he has not served long enough behind bars.

The insider added: “It’s not exactly the life of luxury he’s used to — but he’s got it better than most inmates.”

Becker is facing automatic deportation at the end of his sentence. He must serve half his term because he is not entitled to an electronic tag as a foreign prisoner.

But he is hopeful of being repatriated to his native Germany by November at the latest under the Government’s Early Removal Scheme. Becker believes he will then be released into the community before Christmas under the softer German penal system.

The six-times Grand Slam champ was allowed to watch the Wimbledon tournament behind bars.

He is said to have been thrilled by Novak Djokovic, who he coached between 2014 and 2016, clinching his seventh men’s title.

Becker’s trial centred on his bankruptcy in 2017 and an unpaid loan on his estate in Majorca.

He was obliged to disclose all assets to creditors, who were owed nearly £50million, but failed to do so.

Last night the Prison Service said: “It’s untrue to suggest any preferential treatment was given.

“Offenders are able to access a variety of work and education opportunities while in prison.”

NET-NICKS Nick Kyrgios’ incredible Wimbledon meltdowns captured on camera for dramatic Drive To Survive-style Netflix documentary

NICK KYRGIOS' stormy run to this year's Wimbledon final will be featured in a new behind-the-scenes Netflix documentary.

Now fans of the 27-year-old will be thrilled to hear he will be the focus of an upcoming Netflix documentary about life on the ATP and WTA tennis tours.

The American streaming giant has already had success with sports documentaries like Formula 1: Drive To Survive, which followed the lives of F1 drivers.

The next show in the series will follow PGA golfers.

Netflix are also co-producers of The Last Dance documentary, which centers around basketball legend Michael Jordan.

And as the cameras followed Kyrgios around Wimbledon this year, he was picked up on one mic saying: "I feel like I'm in The Last Dance".

Filming on the tennis documentary is thought to have started in January.

These types of productions tend to be an unfiltered and raw insight into the sports stars they follow - and that should make for interesting viewing with controversial Kyrgios.

The world No 45 was fined a total of £15,000 for transgressions at Wimbledon this month.

R409, I’ve read about this documentary before. I thought it started filming at the beginning of the year and is meant to cover the whole year, meaning it would feature a number of players. Nick by himself would start to grate pretty quickly.

Alison van Uytvanck appears to have a new lezzie lover

I think this world has seen enough of media enabling bad behavior which has been an anathema to modern society. Hard pass.

That's an unfortunate-looking ginge.

[Quote] Alison van Uytvanck appears to have a new lezzie lover

Fire in the hole!!!!!!!!!!

FAA and Bonzi are looking good pairing as a doubles team in Newport.

FAA is a dreamboat.

Andy Murray dismantles American Sam Querrey in the opening round of the Hall of Fame Open in Rhode Island in just 55 minutes...

When is final of Hall of Fame Open? Is it this weekend or next?

surprised to see van Rijthoven lose in 3 sets to journeyman Krueger in Newport

in Lausanne, top seed Collins loses to #154 Simona Waltert 7-6(5) 3-6 6(6)-7

Get used to losing, Danielle!

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Ruud's post RG final floppage continues which is normal. He lost today to F. Cerundolo 4-6 6-3 5-7 in Bastad

in Budapest Krejcikova continues her injury comeback struggles as she lost 1-6 6(1)-7 to X. Wang

Murray def. Purcell in 3 sets in Newport

Bublik def. Sock 6-3 3-6 6-2

Cerundolo is fucking tough r422. Give Casper a break.

R423 who said Cerundolo is not tough?

but it's a fact that Ruud has now lost 3 of his l4 matches since the RG final

and he makes it harder on himself going from grass to clay then hardcourt in a few weeks. Getting used to surface bounces can take time. It can be different on different courts at the same tournament, never mind different tournaments and then different surfaces on top of that

*3 of 4 matches

GREAT! Fed please don't come back. We are good without you. Thank you for your service.

aww I'd like Federer to come back and make 1 last push even if he's not going to win slams anymore

beyond sick of Nadal and Djokovic

I’m glad fat Sock lost.

lol they removed the chat feature from the tennis scoreboard app I use because some of the fans (not me) got too hostile and abusive towards players and each other

R399 your schtick is so tiring. An ab tear makes serving at an ATP level nearly impossible. But it certainly doesn't leave you bed ridden. If you can't serve? You can't play. (Rafa even said he can still hit and train. He just can't serve.) It's really quite simple.

Jus for fun, think about how riding a jet ski might not hurt an ab tear in a way trying to hit serve after serve after serve might. You can do it!

Andy Murray fights back to beat Wimbledon doubles champion Max Purcell and reach quarter-finals of the Hall of Fame Open... but injury casts doubt over his title hopes

Misery is just a tease these days.

R432 = Judy Murray

what's the injury?

Andy looked to have picked up an injury in the second set and was limping heavily at the end of the match. Third seed Alexander Bublik is next up in the last eight if Murray is fit.

Rafa's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

Cue the hysterical Marys caterwauling about his abdominal injury.

Rybakina has trolled her coach by posting an old video of him saying he would get a tattoo with her name on it if she won any grand slam.

I would just nope at that (don't understand people who get tattoos of names).

^Fake news. Rafa was not out dancing at the gay bars with Tomeu, he was at home with his pregnant wife. Why would anyone ever say Rafa lies about anything when he's clearly a paragon of virtue?

Newport: FAA's match against Kubler got suspended due to darkness with FAA up 6-5 in the 3rd set...I wonder who will win. We know FAA is not a surefire closer

There was a RUS vs UKR battle in the Budapest WTA event yesterday that equals the 6th longest womens match of the Open Era (according to people at Tennis Forum). Lesia Tsurenko of Ukraine defeated Kamilla Rakhimova in 3 hours and 54 minutes. The Russian had a MP and led *5-3 in the final set, but eventually gave back to back double faults to hand over the win at 5-7.

Speaking of Russians, did anyone see Rybakina being dragged to Nur Sultan Kazakhstan for probably only the 2nd time of her life to receive a 'homecoming'? The photos are hilarious. There are maybe about 50 people who showed up, and the photo ops include this VERY SUBTLE one of her holding up a Kazakh (Not Russian!!!!!!) passport. I wonder if Wimbledon had anything to do with this. Girl can't wait to go back home to Moscow and stop this charade.

Speaking of Russians.

Georgian player Nikoloz Basilashvili has also been accused

Basilashvili seems like a real peach.

From Jon Wertheim's Wimbledon wrap-up;

A public service announcement Sports gambling is, of course, great revenue. Leaving aside the morality/immortality, there’s some serious caveat emptor here. If you walk the grounds the Sunday before Wimbledon, you will see players heavily wrapped, wincing when they practice, cutting practices short and hitting no serves. Someone is using this insider information, and someone on the other side of the bet is not.

@ R435

Rafa know how to milk cock with he famous ass!

Seriously, Rafa looks as relaxed as this kid.

THAT'S ACE Andy Murray reveals he wants to coach Emma Raducanu after he retires as he admits career is ‘coming to an end’

Murray, 35, will climb back into the world's top 50 next week after wins over Sam Querrey and Max Purcell - but he accepts that he has entered the twilight of his career.

He said: "You never know how close you are to the end but I’m aware I’m getting towards the end of my career.

"So I want to make the most of every match in every tournament I get to play."

Asked about a possible move into coaching, Murray revealed the four players he would love to work with after he hangs up his racquet.

He said: "Female player would be Emma [Raducanu] and male players would be between [Carlos] Alcaraz, [Stefanos] Tsitsipas and Jack Draper.

"They work hard, they seem like they love the sport. Alcaraz and Tsitsipas haven’t won a slam yet. They’re obviously still very young and I think they have the potential to do it."

Serena's allegedly entered in Toronto.

she climbed a few stairs on the stair machine in the gym, she put that in her insta stories last week.

R449 Imagine doing that AND being a mom!

[quote]Serena's allegedly entered in Toronto

It's on the National Bank Open's twitter account as well

[italic]She’s baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack! That’s right, our 3-time champion @serenawilliams returns to Toronto[/italic]

That streak will end this year sadly.

I'm glad she's planning on playing this summer.

predictably FAA loses the resumed match against Kubler in a 3rd set tiebreak

I'm happy for sexy Kubler! Having a great run on grass.

[quote]Rafa's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.

Not gonna lie; I'd let Rafa tear me up all night long

Love to watch Benjamin Bonzi when he's focused and 'on'. So creative.

Thiem gets his best win in ages with a 3 setter over RBA. Very interested in his next match against new clay lover Baez

Guess this means Serena is playing in the US Open.

Is this where we talk about National Bank Open presented by Rogers ?

Thiem team

Thiem lost in 3. Whatever happened to him.....

PCB breadsticked and bageled Lil' Diego.

Blimey!

The next months will be telling for Thiem. I seriously doubt he can regain form.

But then, at least he made it through a couple rounds this week, so that’s progress, I guess.

Newport: Bublik def. Murray 7-5 6-4

Bublik, Cressy, Kubler...can 1 of you please win the title and stop Isner?

Oh, Misery.

Hang up the sneaks, hun. You're never gonna win a big tournament again.

r461 His backhand is gone, Thiem is basically done. He said he has recovered from his wrist injuries but he would never get back his old back hand, one handed backhand, the kinda of rarity among players. There is a reason why OHBH is so rare, it put a lot stress on your wrist and it's injury prone, once your wrist gave up, your tennis is over.

R466 at least he got 1 slam. A large majority of players get 0.

The US Open final between Zverev and Thiem was one of the worst matches I’ve ever seen.

R468 so true, it's an unbelievable bad match at the end, Zverev should have won that match but he blew it, it could be anxiety attack, he had trouble closing the match and gave Thiem an opportunity, but Thiem was equally nervous, he wasted it and gifted back to Zverev but unfortunately Zverev was not ready yet, back to Thiem again...the match quickly descended to "you take it", "No, you take it, it's yours!" "No I insist you take it...." both played like a wuss, it was a farce!

R469, that match is proof of the importance of fans. I think if they had played it in front of a howling mob of drunken New Yorkers, instead of an empty stadium, the level of play would have been much higher.

Here's the 10 minutes plus tiebreak of the final set, it's even worse than I remembered.

Ps, it's Thiem not Zverev who should have closed out that match, before TB, Thiem even had an opportunity to serve out but only to be broken back.

I remember that tie break being so tedious.

At least Domicakes had a proper reaction at the end.

Mein Lord Chancellor.

Oops. Wrong thread at R474.

Will any of you be watching the Hall of Fame induction ceremony this weekend? Leyton Hewitt will be inducted after missing the ceremony last year because of COVID restrictions in Australia.

Rafa.

Rafa ass.

The photo on the right at R477 really shows how Nadal's looks hit a wall several years ago.

Rafa side view.

R471, that's exactly why I NEVER say I'm sick of the Big 3. The quality of tennis drops to terrible once they leave.

To be fair, Thiem was fantastic the whole tournamnent (while Zverev was pretty bad and on the verge of elimination several times).

The final was a different story, Thiem played pretty bad, and both had a lot of problems closing the match

Thiem won ugly but thoroughly deserved that slam. It’s a shame he’ll (probably) never get a French.

Me imagino.

I have fat ass no?

Sugarpova is a mother too! I hope the birth wasn't too taxing on her heart condition.

[quote] Maria Sharapova and Fiancé Alexander Gilkes Welcome Their First Baby: 'Our Little Family'

Another tennis player with a gay husband. Tee hee.

I was just going to say that husband looks GAY

but then again we thought the same thing when she was with Dimitrov

Bastad:

Baez def. Rublev in 2

Cerundolo def. PCB in 2

Budapest:

Pera def. Bondar in 2

Krunic def. Putintseva in 2

Lausanne:

Martic def. Garcia in 3

Danilovic def. Potapova in 2

Newport:

Cressy def. Isner in 3 shocking no tiebreaks

Bublik def. Kubler 6-3 6-2

It's about time Leyton Hewitt's giant schlong was inducted.

interesting-a lot more of the top guys are playing in this coming week's Euro clay events compared to the women. Only Kontaveit, Krejcikova and Kasatkina are noteworthy on the WTA in Hamburg.

By contrast for the men,

Alcaraz is top seed and will play Kuhn who recently switched nationality from Spain to Germany. Kuhn looks like a skinnier Davidovich Fokina

Baez is there too

PCB playing again

DL anti-fave Rune

Coric vs. lookalike Djere

Schwartzman

Basilashvili vs. Karatsev should be hilarious on clay

Cerundolo

Rublev vs. craziest scheduling yet Bublik who is in the Newport grass final. I wonder if he'll still play Hamburg

in Gstaad

Ruud is top seed

Berrettini is #2

RBA is #3

Garin is #6

#7 Gaston vs. Thiem

Kuhn was supposed to be the next best thing a couple of years ago. He was the best player born in 2000 only behind FAA, but something went wrong (he was always ahead of Davidovich Fokina in spanish competitions).

Everytime he was on the verge of rising in the rankings he injured. Last Wimbledon was the first time he was in a GS main draw (he lost to Nakashima in four sets).

Unlike Davidovich Fokina (who is and always was spanish), Kuhn is german, he decided to play for Spain because he was raised here, and he feel spanish. The recent change has all to do with money, german federation always supported him (he even received wc to german tournaments after playing for Spain). Everybdoy seems to think he is a good guy, and even after some disastrous years he is able to keep his ranking around 250 (unlike other former promising players like Rudolf Molleker whose ranking went down like a rock)

Pretty in pink, Franciso Cerundulo, overpowers Baez to become Champion in Bastad.

Lausanne: Petra Martic def. Olga Danilovic 6-4 6-2, to win her second title.

Budapest: Bernarda Pera def. Aleksandra Krunic 6-3 6-3, to win her first title. Krunic re-enters the top 100 with her run.

Djokovic and his fans must be so proud of the fact that politicians like Rand Paul are coming out of the woodwork to back him in his attempt to get into the States to play the US Open. He’s all for “medical freedom,” y’all, according to Paul, and has “natural immunity,” which, as we know, was certified by absolutely water-tight, above-board declarations from the Serbian ministry of health.

I so won't be shocked if Djokovic appears on some Fox "News" show ahead of the USO

you know the right wingers are going to make that their next big story

it was crazy to see the American right wingers actually bash the right wing Australian government for deporting Djokovic earlier this year. Typically right wingers all get sexual pleasure out of being very anti-immigrant/anti-foreigner. Oh no, the American right wing has now moved so far right that they will side with immigrants/foreigners if it means they can express anti-science views (in this it's their anti-vaccination stance).

R496 well Djokovic is a multi millionaire so not the typical poor to middle class foreigner they usually rag on.

What the hell happened to ADF? After the Monte Carlo final he went into a tennis coma of sorts.

Kuhn is another former junior star who never took off. He's already 22. He might be a Karatsev-like late bloomer but he has a few years left to do it.

So happy for Cerendulo and Baez. They played an amazing week and defeated many top players, Cerundolo in particular. Richly deserved title.

R497 there's no consistency. The American right wing likes to rag on those they deem "elites" too and Djokovic is certainly 1 of those.

R499 true but liberal elites. Not sure where Djokovic leans and European conservatives might be different from American ones but Djokovic definitely shares some of their views.

Lisicki continues her comeback and has gone through qualifying rounds to reach the Hamburg main draw where she'll next play Krunic, today's Budapest runner-up

R500, it’s not really about who’s an elite or not. It’s only about what will get guys like Rand Paul on television. That’s all they care about. This is just another issue to demagogue.

wow Bublik after starting the Newport final in great form, lost the second and they're now in a tight 3rd. He's being an asshole now

Cressy fell at 6-5 30-30 and appears to have hurt his knee. Bublik is annoyed he has to wait for a medical timeout

and with that last double fault, Cressy def. Bublik 2-6 6-3 7-6(3)

so nice to have 3 first time winners today (Pera, Cerundolo, Cressy)

these last several years on the ATP it's been harder for guys to become first time winners. We need more of them. Bublik actually won his first title earlier this year too

Cressy is HAWT.

He is, R505. I like 'em thiccer, but Cressy is long and lean and hawt.

and furry, YUM

Bublik's runner-up speech lol

he congratulated Cressy but called him lucky!

Cressy took it well in his speech but yikes classless from Bublik

he should play mixed doubles with Ostapenko

what a douche

good lord, what a jerk

bet Cressy has a beautiful, long, uncut dick

^ link, pls

what did matteo post on his insta story? he deleted it and said sorry if it anyone was offended. He said Lebron is my biggest idol, incredible role model and inspiration.

ok, i figured it out. he used a Gorilla emoji when posting about Lebron James.

Oooh, that's painful.

Cressy is like vintage gay porn. He reminds me of those pics from old Playgirls.... absolutely delicious.

Cressy and his beard is fug. Very straight.

I didn't see the original insta story from Berrettini, only his apology but is it not known in Italy that even if not intended, that symbol is seen as racist? I imagine since he said LeBron is his idol that he probably used the gorilla emoji to mean "he's a beast" at sports but he should have known better. At least he took it down and apologized but still he looks quite ignorant now. The ones calling him out on twitter were mostly other Italians I believe

Italians are incredibly insensitive to all things that might give racial or religious offence. Berrettini wouldn’t have been aware until it was pointed out by someone else that using a gorilla symbol would be perceived as offensive, just like most Italians are flabbergasted if not incredulous that an Black American opera singer would refuse to perform with a cast using blackface for their performance of Aida a the Verona Arena. Most, unfortunately, would see it as just another example of political correctness gone mad.

Oh look, two more Trumptard politicians now siding with Djokovic.

I bet that political support is well oiled by Novaxx's team.

Too bad they're Republicans and not Dems. Not sure they'll get anywhere much based on that but many other countries have lifted the requirement so I wouldn't be surprised if it is soon.

I cannot express how much I detest Novaxx and his sense of entitlement.

Is Kasatkina's new girlfriend anyone notable? She looks quite smitten in recent photos and previously said she's not attracted to fellow players.

do you mean Zabiiako? If so, she's a pair skater. She has a World's bronze medal.

Thanks, 524. Kasatkina's girlfriend has a different look, but it's apparently the same woman. Congrats to Dasha, who was already out but used 'bi' instead of 'gay' last year when TV presenter Sofya Tartakova bullied her about her sexuality.

nice, well done Kasatkina. Brave since she is Russian...

AND isn't it notable that multiple female tennis players come out (some many decades ago!) while we still do not have a single out gay male player.

Sorry if anyone's already posted this. Massive respect to Kastakina. So honest and direct... and funny... and her gay male friend is cute.

^ I don't think he's her 'gay male friend' but a vlogger who went to Barcelona to interview Rublev and Kasatkina

Some country needs to snap up Kasatkina prompto, please. She's against the war, she's out, she would be an asset.

This was one dramatic interview. She even cries in the interviewer's arms as they discuss her future in Russia. She's said in previous interviews that she prefers Europe, especially Spain, to her homeland, because it's more socially liberal.

Hell, , I never even hear anyone in the tennis world say that Gambill is out.

Team Kasatkina

There are no openly gay male tennis players currently. Likewise declaring one's sexual orientation does not necessarily improve one's tennis, but could have detrimental effect. There is no need to come out, if in fact there in any one in the closet. Who would want the distraction?

Kasatkina team.

R534 It is way easier to live your life authentically when you're out. You don't need to pretend or to censor yourself. You can be yourself to a greater degree.

[quote]It is way easier to live your life authentically when you're out.

On an international stage in the sports world? I expect there would be great support, but that would come with a billion distractions.

R537 Navratilova, Mauresmo, Billie Jean King and several others have done fine so why is it so much more shameful and harder for men to do it?

I would love it Grigor or Rafa came out.

“Cames” out.

Welcome to Datalounge, Rafael Nadal/R534!

R536, it probably depends on who your “authentic self” is. Tom Daley seems happy to live his life on Instagram, and didn’t seem to be too bothered when a tabloid published details of him cheating on his husband, something the paper might not have done if he was still closeted. The skier Gus Kentworthy, however, seemed to get caught up in all of the attention after he came out; he was all over the place, partying, acting, and he seemed much less serious about his sport.

Nah. Fuck the closet. It must be exhausting. Dealing with beards as well? Why bother. How many of you are still in the closet? Unless you're in an actively repressive country that's because you're ashamed, not because it really is easier.

The Love Tennis Podcast has 'outed' JMG in their latest episode. The hosts are two prominent sports journalists working for British newspapers and a well-known tennis coach (in the UK at least).

JMG outed himself on social media, with his ex-bf. No way he's able to clmb back in the closet.

R545 I don't deny he's trying to hide anything, just that he's never actually come out and said publicly that he's gay. It'd be big news if he did since he's an active commentator, was Top 20 and was well known in his day, if only really among committed tennis fans and/or Americans.

It was quite big news among gays/tennis fans when the almost unknown Brian Vahaly came out (years after retiring). Even the quickest glance at JMG's Instagram would let anyone know he's the gayest gay who ever did gay, but he's never come out himself. Thought people might pile on the host journalists/coach for outing him on a public platform without his permission.

Djere Vs Porna gone into a 3rd set wank-a-thon!

^ they would make beautiful babies together

R546 do you think JMG being a Tennis Channel employee is worried about backlash from them? Aren't the owners nutty right wingers? I wonder if that's why he and Malek have cooled it on social media.

[quote]Navratilova, Mauresmo, Billie Jean King and several others have done fine so why is it so much more shameful and harder for men to do it?

Because gay men put their penises in other men's assholes, 'the unsavory deed', which the heterosexual world (the majority), consider to be 'icky', 'an abomination', 'perverted', and 'dirty'. And while many countries in the world give legal protection to gay men, or at least are willing to give performative lip-service to acceptance of gay male sex, the reality on the ground amongst straight male athletes is they would prefer to not have to deal with gays in their locker-rooms (despite happily spouting that 'it doesn't matter to them'). They have irrational fears of being 'looked at/checked out ' by gays, and seem to imagine that 'surprise anal' is something they will have to watch out for, lol! There is a great divide between what is legislated and what really happens on the ground. Sorry, that's reality. However it will happen sometime; some young gay male tennis player will simply be open about his orientation from the get go, as he rises up through the ranks, and will be accepted for the most part. I do hope he isn't corralled into representing 'all the gays everywhere all the time' though.

Navratilova and BJK eventually did fine. For the years after they first came out/were outed, however, things were very tough for them. Mauresmo also received her fair share of derision from her fellow players.

R551, Navratilova was dropped by all of her sponsors after she came out and lost millions of dollars as a result.

Did JMG and Malek break up!? Gosh, that's a bummer.

I like the way Alcaraz speaks english with such a thick accent and says "Whale" with a big smile on his face as he begins each sentence.

Does he say “no” at the end of each sentence?

Canada's Health minister has confirmed that Djokovic can't play there either unless he gets vaccinated. Surreal to see a top sportsman engage in such senseless self-harm.

very good!

grrrr

Serena entered at Cincinnati.

Told ya we were hard-core!

R559, is this where we talk about Western and Southern Open?

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I heard Roger Federer is gay everyone know this in the Tennis world. Martina even knows

^No wonder Asian women love him.