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Post the most horrible things you have about Hawaii

I'll start.

Highest monthly household bills in the world.

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by Anonymousreply 180March 31, 2024 8:57 AM

People born and raised there are completely priced out of the market.

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by Anonymousreply 1June 23, 2022 12:07 AM

Evictions on the rise.

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by Anonymousreply 2June 23, 2022 12:08 AM

Homeless population greater than anywhere in the US.

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by Anonymousreply 3June 23, 2022 12:09 AM

People from all over the world looking to be homeless in Hawaii.

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by Anonymousreply 4June 23, 2022 12:09 AM

Trashy nasty tourists

by Anonymousreply 5June 23, 2022 12:09 AM

Rife with drug abuse.

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by Anonymousreply 6June 23, 2022 12:10 AM

Top 5 in the US for traffic congestion.

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by Anonymousreply 7June 23, 2022 12:11 AM

Terrible public schools.

by Anonymousreply 8June 23, 2022 12:11 AM

Governor declares a state of emergency for homelessness.

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by Anonymousreply 9June 23, 2022 12:13 AM

Hawaii teachers are ranked worst in the nation.

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by Anonymousreply 10June 23, 2022 12:14 AM

Where is that famous Karen video?

by Anonymousreply 11June 23, 2022 12:16 AM

Gas and inflation are the highest in the United States.

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by Anonymousreply 12June 23, 2022 12:16 AM

When I was SCUBA diving and visiting Hawaii frequently, I kept hearing that surfers were being killed by sharks and that the government was hushing up the deaths.

"Oh the divers are fine!" the rumor-mongers would say, "They dive in shallow reefs where the harmless shark species are, but the surfers are in deep water where the tiger sharks are. And the surfers don't spend any money, not like the divers, so the government doesn't care if they get killed."

by Anonymousreply 13June 23, 2022 12:16 AM

Hawaii people are fucking idiots.

They do absolutely nothing about these problems. They just ignore it.

by Anonymousreply 14June 23, 2022 12:17 AM

I've heard that the traffic on Oahu is not only godawful but dangerous, because Japanese tourists rent cars and try to drive on the wrong side of the road.

by Anonymousreply 15June 23, 2022 12:17 AM

Millionaires building monster homes in Hawaii and charging over $2000 rent per month to stupid renters with nowhere else to go.

Meanwhile, the owners of these monstrosities are raking in tens of thousands of dollars per month.

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by Anonymousreply 16June 23, 2022 12:19 AM

That field reporter at r16 is cute as fuck but that accent is a no-go. Is that a Hawaiian accent? If so, add it to the list as a bad thing about the state.

by Anonymousreply 17June 23, 2022 12:26 AM


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by Anonymousreply 19June 23, 2022 12:29 AM

Larry Ellison, Mark Zuckerberg, Oprah Winfrey, Roseanne, and tons of other celebrities are all major landowners in Hawaii.

Prices will never go down.

by Anonymousreply 20June 23, 2022 12:34 AM

Crystal Meth.

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by Anonymousreply 21June 23, 2022 12:36 AM

Most racist state in the Union. Locals hate haoles, Buk buks hate bodingees, everyone hates papolos, military hates mahus unless they’re trannys, meth heads will slice your throat for $10.

by Anonymousreply 22June 23, 2022 12:37 AM

[quote] Terrible public schools.

God, I wish I lived in Connecticut!

by Anonymousreply 23June 23, 2022 12:38 AM

How is Maui?

by Anonymousreply 24June 23, 2022 12:52 AM

Tiki statues!

by Anonymousreply 25June 23, 2022 12:59 AM


by Anonymousreply 26June 23, 2022 1:16 AM

R22 Lucky you have never been to the south.

by Anonymousreply 27June 23, 2022 1:20 AM

Speaking from personal experience, being racially abused and told to leave, just for walking down the street.

Speaking from what I've read, the way the native people lost their land, and also the meth problem.

I do understand points one and two are related.

by Anonymousreply 28June 23, 2022 11:04 AM

[quote]Trashy nasty tourists

Trashy nasty locals

by Anonymousreply 29June 23, 2022 11:07 AM

Too many fucking vowels in its name.

by Anonymousreply 30June 23, 2022 11:09 AM

[quote]the way the native people lost their land

To be fair the native people did not "lose" their land. The locals with land gave it away by marrying haoles who rabidly gobbled it up.

It was only when it was all gone that the locals realized what had happened.

by Anonymousreply 31June 23, 2022 11:12 AM

They get sidelined in their own place by a bunch of greedy sugar and pineapple farmers. Not nice.

by Anonymousreply 32June 23, 2022 11:18 AM

Some of the dumbest people I've ever encountered have been from Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 33June 23, 2022 11:55 AM

Why would anyone ever want to live there?

It's a 6 hour flight to get anywhere outside of Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 34June 23, 2022 11:57 AM

Because away from the methy areas it's gorgeous and the weather is nearly perfect.

by Anonymousreply 35June 23, 2022 11:59 AM

[quote] the weather is nearly perfect

Everyone's definition of "nearly perfect weather" will vary.

Personally, I can't stand Hawaii's stifling heat and humidity.

Give me cool, crisp Fall weather any day of the week.

by Anonymousreply 36June 23, 2022 12:04 PM

OP = Guam Chamber of Commerce

by Anonymousreply 37June 23, 2022 12:14 PM

Seems like a place to start the birth control experiment. Pay them to get sterilized. End homelessness and drug addicts having babies. Let the population even out to allow the economy to strengthen with actually viable working adults. Or feed all criminals to the sharks. I got nothing 🤷🏿‍♀️

by Anonymousreply 38June 23, 2022 12:40 PM

[quote]Personally, I can't stand Hawaii's stifling heat and humidity.

Neither of those are true.

The temperature never and I mean NEVER goes above 90 degrees F. Or below 60 for that matter.

The only time the humidity is a problem is for a period of 2 days to 2 weeks in August when the trade winds die.

The rest of the time the weather, the sky and the ocean are glorious. The people, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 39June 23, 2022 12:43 PM

What are bodingees, R22?

by Anonymousreply 40June 23, 2022 12:44 PM

Are mahus prostitution whores?

by Anonymousreply 41June 23, 2022 12:50 PM

What's a papalo? A papa on the downlow?

by Anonymousreply 42June 23, 2022 12:52 PM

What's a Bukbuk? Isn't that what chickens say?

by Anonymousreply 43June 23, 2022 12:53 PM

it's lovely, I had a mother who lived there once.

by Anonymousreply 44June 25, 2022 8:14 PM

How many mothers do you have, R44?

by Anonymousreply 45June 25, 2022 8:16 PM

Did most of Hawaii’s problems begin when they became a US state back in 1959?

by Anonymousreply 46June 25, 2022 8:22 PM

Am I forgotten already?!

by Anonymousreply 47June 25, 2022 8:24 PM

Hawaiian Airlines.

by Anonymousreply 48June 25, 2022 8:29 PM

Ezra/R47 you make everywhere a horrible place, no matter where you go.

by Anonymousreply 49June 25, 2022 8:29 PM

Volcanoes in Hawaii can pose two types of threats to living things. They are the lava flows and vog. Vog is smoke from the volcanic eruptions. It could potentially pose health problems for those with respiratory ailments, especially with those who have asthma. Then there is also the threat of toxic gas fumes.

Many are not aware that Kilauea Volcano on the Big Island of Hawaii has been actively spewing lava for over 35 years now. But as with many things, people only become more aware of it when the media calls attention to it. In this case, as of May 2018, there is new activity from a vent about 25 miles from Kilauea. This new activity has created lava flows threatening and engulfing many homes.

Additionally, one can only find current volcanic activity limited to the Big Island of Hawaii. Out of five so-called active volcanoes in the State of Hawaii, four are on the Big Island of Hawaii. They are Mauna Loa, Hualalai, Kilauea and Loihi.

And... thousands of earthquakes occur every year in the State of Hawaii. They are caused by eruptive processes within the active volcanoes or by deep structural adjustments due to the weight of the islands on Earth's underlying crust.

by Anonymousreply 50June 25, 2022 8:30 PM

I Know What You Did Last Summer, the Amazon Prime reboot

by Anonymousreply 51June 25, 2022 8:32 PM

R50 fascinating! I wish I knew more about volcanoes and geology and stuff like that!

by Anonymousreply 52June 25, 2022 9:26 PM

A cursed tiki statue almost killed my brother.

And the weather fucked up my dad's hair.

by Anonymousreply 53June 25, 2022 9:43 PM

It seems beautiful to me. I have heard from people who live there that the populace, both the natives and the newcomers, are rather unfriendly.

by Anonymousreply 54June 26, 2022 12:23 AM

I'm younger and better looking, yet somehow I'm not the star of the show.

by Anonymousreply 55June 26, 2022 12:45 AM

I think the new Hawaii 5.0 got cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 56June 26, 2022 12:48 AM

R34, have you ever been there?

by Anonymousreply 57June 26, 2022 12:50 AM

Don't forget tsunamis R50.

The Hawaiian town of Hilo was hit twice by tsunamis. Once in 1946 and again in 1960.

It's probably due for another one soon.

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by Anonymousreply 58June 26, 2022 12:51 AM

Insular people and isolated. Is any city in the world so distant from another city as Honolulu?

by Anonymousreply 59June 26, 2022 12:52 AM

[quote] Is any city in the world so distant from another city as Honolulu?

No city as populous as Honolulu, that's for sure.

It has almost a million people living at minimum 2500 miles away from any other city in the world.

And with most remote cities, you can still drive somewhere else if you have to.

That's not the case with Hawaii.

Without ships or airplanes, they are FUCKED. Another reason why prices are so high there.

by Anonymousreply 60June 26, 2022 1:04 AM

Buk buk = Filipino

Papolo = negro, black man

Bodinky = Puerto Rican

Mahu = homo

Butchies = Lezbots

by Anonymousreply 61June 26, 2022 1:11 AM

I remember being terribly disappointed when upon arrival at Honolulu I was not presented with a lai as I came out of the jetway.

by Anonymousreply 62June 26, 2022 1:22 AM

Paedophile archeology professors lurking in caves.

by Anonymousreply 63June 26, 2022 1:40 AM

How often does this happen? Everyone flocks to a cool new spot, then what made it cool gets trashed.

by Anonymousreply 64June 26, 2022 1:49 AM

R64 Indeed.

by Anonymousreply 65June 26, 2022 1:51 AM

R1 The real estate agent is named Heidi Ho. I had to look twice at the sign.

by Anonymousreply 66June 26, 2022 2:12 AM

Those grass skirts are a major fire hazard.

by Anonymousreply 67June 26, 2022 2:32 AM

the people that talk about Hawaii, positively or disdain, when one suspects the closest most of them ever got to Hawaii or even learning about it came from The Brady Bunch.


Buffy St Marie

Really, just a wide plethora of boomer celebs... that did way too many drugs in the 60s.

Hawaii is either love/hate. There's no real between whether it's opinions from the outside or the inside.

Though, I would say they're most damaged by the perspective that a lot of people believe they're more about Hawaii than about Amurica. It's true to a fair extent as many feel that the rest of America isn't for Hawaii. So, you got that reactionary feedback loop at every angle. . . so, politics tends to play out with rebellious streak to whatever is popular on the mainland.... and they're highly prone to conspiracy theories. . . . on EVERYTHING. But you run more into of fruity, nutty granola tree humping types

Still, it's easier than many other states to find friends there... it only tends to be excessively cliquey in the tourist spots.

Tourists are usually the worst. . . where it's more of a theme park trapped in a time capsule to them. So, tourists areas tend to have a strong Florida vibe.

by Anonymousreply 68June 26, 2022 2:36 AM

[quote] How often does this happen? Everyone flocks to a cool new spot, then what made it cool gets trashed.

Blame "From Here to Eternity."

Hawaii was pretty much unknown to the world before December 7, 1941.

Then came the war.

Then came the G.I.'s.

Then came the tourists.

And everything changed.

by Anonymousreply 69June 26, 2022 2:39 AM

Mama’s Family went to “Hawai-uh.”

by Anonymousreply 70June 26, 2022 2:50 AM

Don Ho is dead and there are no more tiny bubbles in the wine.

by Anonymousreply 71June 26, 2022 3:04 AM

Really pushy Japanese tourists.

by Anonymousreply 72June 26, 2022 3:09 AM

Hands up if you've ever been racially abused in Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 73June 26, 2022 6:00 AM

So white people are the target of racism, so what?Welcome to the world for a lot of people.

by Anonymousreply 74June 26, 2022 6:07 AM

How about no one gets targeted for racial abuse ever, and we don;'t make excuses for it ever or secretly get off on it when it's not us being targeted. How does that sound?

by Anonymousreply 75June 26, 2022 6:09 AM

Most Hawaiians are part white Or japanese, hapa . They don’t hate white people they hate the military losers and trashy tourists that act like they own everything and are better than everyone else. You know the type.

by Anonymousreply 76June 26, 2022 6:10 AM

Things cost more in Hawaii because nearly all have to be shipped in by air or sea. This is not news and has been going on for decades.

There are reasons why many vendors won't ship to Alaska or Hawaii, and or charge more.

When nearly everything went by ship things weren't so bad, but rise and near dominate of airplanes for freight changed game considerably.

When you go into a supermarket or shop in Hawaii absent perhaps some coffee and types of nuts nearly everything else is imported from elsewhere. Businesses of course face same issue and merely pass their costs along to consumers.

Case in point Registered Nurses.... Compensation looks good on paper (about low six figures), and of course it's *Hawaii*, but when HCL is factored into equation (again in large part because nearly everything must be imported from mainland or elsewhere), nurses end up nearly dead last in earnings off all US states.

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by Anonymousreply 77June 26, 2022 6:21 AM

It sounds like an absolutely dreadful place.

by Anonymousreply 78June 26, 2022 6:31 AM

R78 Sure you can come up with dreadful things about any state, or any place in the world.

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by Anonymousreply 80June 26, 2022 8:01 AM

Macadamia Nuts

by Anonymousreply 81June 26, 2022 8:03 AM

Employees of hotels and tourism sector workers often have more than one job. Sometimes two or three. Because the employers only hire part-time. It’s like that with way too many jobs in Hawaii. They need the 2-3 jobs to pay rent and groceries. The minimum wage must be way too damn low.

by Anonymousreply 82June 26, 2022 9:48 AM

That would explain why several workers at the airport pretended not to hear me or acted like they hated me when I asked for help.

by Anonymousreply 83June 26, 2022 9:50 AM

Serious question: Can anyone recommend an island paradise vacation destination where tourists are welcome and not resented? I don't want to go where I'm not wanted. The whole purpose of a vacation is to wind down, not to deal with filthy glares or even abuse.

by Anonymousreply 84June 26, 2022 10:21 AM

I love macadamia nuts R81. They're awesome.

Interesting fact I just learned from wiki.

Hawaii residents with a Japanese background make up about 25% of the entire population, and people with a Filipino background make up another 25% of the population.

Who knew?? And how in the hell did they ever become half the population of the state? That's crazy.

No wonder everything there is so backwards.

by Anonymousreply 85June 26, 2022 10:22 AM

[quote] Can anyone recommend an island paradise vacation destination where tourists are welcome and not resented? I don't want to go where I'm not wanted.

Tahiti is absolutely lovely.

Not too crowded, not too touristy, very laid back people, beautiful scenery, and very friendly.

The only problem is that it helps to speak French.

by Anonymousreply 86June 26, 2022 10:24 AM

[quote]And how in the hell did they ever become half the population of the state?

Japanese and Filipino laborers were brought to Hawaii to plant and harvest crops on the land that white settlers acquired . It wasn't slavery but it wasn't far from it, in terms of living conditions and social standing.

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by Anonymousreply 88June 26, 2022 11:22 AM

How do Hawaiians treat tourists?

by Anonymousreply 89June 26, 2022 12:06 PM

Dog the Bounty Hunter

by Anonymousreply 90June 26, 2022 1:40 PM

Kaua’i - Appalachia of the Pacific

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by Anonymousreply 92June 26, 2022 2:37 PM

Huge flying cockroaches

by Anonymousreply 93June 26, 2022 2:59 PM

But container shipping is an extraordinarly efficient way of shipping goods. No doubt it's far cheaper to send a container of apples from Seattle to Hawaii by sea than it is to send the same to Miami by rail and truck.

by Anonymousreply 94June 26, 2022 3:42 PM

I'm going to Maui for the first time this fall. Is maui a nice vacation for 2 weeks?

by Anonymousreply 95June 26, 2022 6:00 PM

It's a nice place to visit, R95. I don't think anyone is denying that.

But it's an absolutely horrible place to live.

by Anonymousreply 96June 26, 2022 8:28 PM

Bette Midler said she was "mercilessly" taunted while growing up in Honolulu and that "small-town Hawaii is still small-town America"

by Anonymousreply 97June 26, 2022 11:40 PM

R89: Depends where you are. Most of the ones who work in tourism will treat you well. The ones who abused me were random dudes on the street. That was one bad experience but as you can imagine it kinda ruined the vibe.

by Anonymousreply 98June 27, 2022 11:54 AM

What happened, R98?

by Anonymousreply 99June 27, 2022 11:57 AM

Got racially abused and told to leave because I "didn't belong there".

by Anonymousreply 100June 27, 2022 12:01 PM

Their pizza.

by Anonymousreply 101June 27, 2022 12:10 PM

R39 it NEVER gets above 90 degrees! But 89 is ok.

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by Anonymousreply 102June 27, 2022 1:31 PM

They eat Spam, voluntarily.

by Anonymousreply 103June 27, 2022 1:33 PM

They let their aging parents and grandparents live with them! Sickening! Fucking Ohana bullshit. No one likes their family that much.

by Anonymousreply 104June 27, 2022 1:41 PM

Hawaii' sucks.

by Anonymousreply 105June 27, 2022 2:18 PM

Time to nuke Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 106June 27, 2022 11:56 PM

Should have nuked Japan completely when we could.

by Anonymousreply 107June 28, 2022 5:14 AM

Little Beach on Maui is the best spot.

by Anonymousreply 108June 28, 2022 5:14 AM

The weather does seem oppressive.

I hate hot weather and humidity.

by Anonymousreply 109June 28, 2022 5:25 AM

Drunken crackhead natives like to let you know you're not welcome. Not too bad of a problem just garden variety louts really. Giant centepedes live in the ground cover the scariest insect i have ever seen. It can be very hot there on the desert side of the islands. Still it is a spectacular place well worth visiting for its grandiose nature and incredible setting.

by Anonymousreply 110June 28, 2022 5:53 AM

I went to Little Beach and a guy had lobster red balls from too much sun. He had them hanging over the edge of his sand chair resting on ice.

by Anonymousreply 111June 28, 2022 7:08 AM

Take a chopper tour of Kauai - fucking stunning.

by Anonymousreply 112June 28, 2022 7:09 AM

Lol R111.

Yet another reason to hate Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 113June 28, 2022 10:05 AM

Even people who live in Hawaii, hate Hawaii.

On their news:

"Hawaii named the LEAST AFFORDABLE state."

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by Anonymousreply 114June 29, 2022 11:42 PM

God, hawaii is fucking awful.

Watching that video at R114, I don't know how people can stand living there.

by Anonymousreply 115June 29, 2022 11:55 PM

Go to Kauai and hike the Napali coastline. It is stunning.

Don't look any Hawaiin-Asians in the eye.

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by Anonymousreply 116June 30, 2022 12:10 AM

Why not look them in the eye? Is that true in Asia in general?

I spent a month in Shanghai once and don't remember that being an issue but maybe I was annoying people?? What I do remember is them staring at me, as a non-Asian, even in Shanghai, at least in parts, and especially in Linyi where I also spent a week or so.

But China's not Hawaii, I realize. Aren't there a lot of Japanese in Hawaii?

by Anonymousreply 117June 30, 2022 12:16 AM

[quote] But China's not Hawaii, I realize. Aren't there a lot of Japanese in Hawaii?

It's like 90% Orientals.

by Anonymousreply 118June 30, 2022 12:20 AM

Poo-poo platters! Actually, I spent six months on Oahu in 1979. I stayed with my aunt and uncle, who had a house right on the water. I hate hot weather and most "tropical paradise" locales but the weather there was never oppressive-- low humidity and breezy. We lived in a tiny town near the North Shore called Laie. At that time, it was very rural in our area. I had expected high-rise hotels to ring the whole island but there were plenty of beautiful, empty beaches then. I am sad to hear of all the traffic congestion now because it was not like that when I was there. It truly was idyllic. And because it was the seventies, a double episode of "The Jeffersons" was being filmed down the road from us and I tried escargot (ick) in a restaurant featured on "Magnum PI". Those were the days!

by Anonymousreply 119June 30, 2022 12:48 AM

Stolen from indigenous people, integrated into the global economy and its "openness", and ruined.

by Anonymousreply 120June 30, 2022 12:50 AM

R117 Almost all "indigenous" Hawaiians are mixed with Japanese or Filipino. So they are Hawaiian/Asian. Most of them live in Kauai. Don't look them in the eye, that is interpreted as a threat (if you are male).

by Anonymousreply 121June 30, 2022 12:52 AM

Fucking mainlander kids who do not respect our traditions.

by Anonymousreply 122June 30, 2022 12:58 AM

Obviously the Op and a lot of the posters here went to Hawaii and got a tiki idol and have been blaming the islands for their bad luck since.

by Anonymousreply 123June 30, 2022 1:09 AM

Did you even bother to read the thread, R123?

Hawaii sounds like a terrible place to live.

The video at R114 is jaw-dropping.

Why do those people put up with that shit??

I have to laugh, every time someone refers to Hawaii as "paradise."

Rofl. It's anything BUT paradise. More like HELL.

by Anonymousreply 124June 30, 2022 1:11 AM

I’ve been 3 times. Had friends who lived there. It’s expensive for a reason-it’s a remote set of Islands and it is paradise so the rich have bought up a lot. My friends loved living there. The locals were friendly. OF COURSE some weren’t like any place. It’s a great place to live but your money won’t go far. It’s a trade off. I’ve been to all 4 major islands. All were wonderful. Oahu and Honolulu are very crowded.

by Anonymousreply 125June 30, 2022 1:14 AM


by Anonymousreply 126June 30, 2022 1:26 AM

R126 Not as bad as Florida and the south. it’s really only unbearable when a thunder storm is on the way which happens about 2 times a year.

by Anonymousreply 127June 30, 2022 1:29 AM

R38 you belong back in the 1930s with your dehumanizing rhetoric about sterilizing people. Obviously your sow of a mother should have been sterilized since she crapped out such a nasty, worthless cunt of a son.

by Anonymousreply 128June 30, 2022 1:29 AM

R127 Seriously? I must have been out of luck, but yes, there were many thunderstorms last time I was there. Tempted to go back -- even more so now. Thanks!

by Anonymousreply 129June 30, 2022 1:32 AM

Don't worry.

Climate change and rising sea levels will finish them off, soon enough.

by Anonymousreply 130June 30, 2022 2:07 AM

No, climate change and rising sea levels will finish off the Maldives and any other low-lying atolls, but the Hawaiian Islands are mountainous.

by Anonymousreply 131June 30, 2022 3:09 PM

Oh damn, Paul Drewes looks so OLD now. He was quite the looker and a bit twinky just a short time ago.

by Anonymousreply 132June 30, 2022 3:17 PM

Don't forget about meee.......

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by Anonymousreply 133June 30, 2022 3:22 PM

[quote] Locals hate haoles, Buk buks hate bodingees, everyone hates papolos, military hates mahus

can someone translate? Haoles = non Hawaiian (esp white) but the others?

by Anonymousreply 134June 30, 2022 3:27 PM

R134, see r61.

by Anonymousreply 135June 30, 2022 3:31 PM


by Anonymousreply 136June 30, 2022 3:35 PM

Has Don Ho weighed in and commented???

by Anonymousreply 137June 30, 2022 3:53 PM

If there was ever a state requiring some sort of socialism takeover (aside from CA), it's Hawaii. Build affordable subsidized housing for a limited number (preferably natives), improve schools, improve public transport & limit the number of cars on each line proportional to the size of the island/infrastructure. Implement some sort of tax like islands in the Caribbean and heavily tax land owners, condos, etc. Likewise, the military needs to chip in to make the island more livable or confine their personal to their bases. Implement aggressive drug treatment programs to get clean or get off the island.

The fed government doesn't do "big" programs anymore, but HI needs a complete & total intervention

by Anonymousreply 138June 30, 2022 4:57 PM

r138 They should probably get them into a gym first to make it easier to get them through the doors.

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by Anonymousreply 139June 30, 2022 5:03 PM

The Hawaiian plate lunch.

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by Anonymousreply 140June 30, 2022 5:40 PM

R138 yep yep yep

by Anonymousreply 141June 30, 2022 5:42 PM

Love Hawaii, been there multiple times. Haven't experienced racism, but the locals do keep to themselves. I've been told that they're used to people moving to Hawaii, then finding they can't make it there and leaving. So it takes about six years before you are really accepted.

Too many tourists, but also an economy that's tourist dependent.

Very hard to move there if you don't have an income. Jobs go to locals/family members.

by Anonymousreply 142June 30, 2022 6:15 PM

[quote]Too many tourists, but also an economy that's tourist dependent.

That's really why it's so imperative that they get their shit together; if they got hit with a devastating hurricane like the Caribbean did a couple of years ago & were out of commission for some period of time, think of all the people living on the margins that would starve - or the place would be become complete anarchy with the rich locked in their compounds with everyone else struggling to survive. And unlike Puerto Rico, there's no relatively close place to evacuate people

by Anonymousreply 143June 30, 2022 6:28 PM

The islands did get hit with a devastating hurricane back in the mid 90s. Most of the tourist hotels on Kauai were wiped out. There’s video footage of people huddled in stairwells and the walls—interior walls—were shaking. It happened the same time as the Miami area was hit with a bad hurricane and that was the focus of all the news reports.

You can also briefly see footage in the first Jurassic Park movie as they were filming on Kauai at the time.

by Anonymousreply 144June 30, 2022 6:43 PM

I'm enjoying this thread, especially people's exaggerated negative impressions of Hawaii. I'm guessing that if you started any new thread with "Post the most horrible things you have about 'fill in the name of the place' " you'd get very similar responses.

I don't agree with most, probably because I live in Hawaii - first on Oahu and now on the Big Island. As I look at what's happening in the rest of the US, I'm pretty happy to be stranded out in this "hell hole" in the middle of the Pacific.

by Anonymousreply 145June 30, 2022 10:01 PM

So without being creepy R145, what do you do that you're able to live in HI? It is an amazingly beautiful place, but I was under the impression that life was very tough for anyone who isn't Oprah or Zuck and even military people, while they have certain advantages, get shunned by the locals.

by Anonymousreply 146June 30, 2022 10:10 PM

R146 my husband and I are retired and have lived here for about 9 years. The Hawaiian's love and respect for gay people has not been mentioned in this thread, but even as haole, we have not experienced anything that we would identify as negative, except from some conservative mainlanders who vacation here. Shunned by locals? Ridiculous. Indeed, the locals have greeted us warmly and let us discover a part of the island life that most tourists never see.

As for affordability, yes it's expensive, but no more so then living in NYC or Los Angeles. We have fruit trees which give us oranges, lemons, limes, mangos, avocados, papaya, bananas, lychee, mountain apples, etc. We share what we can't eat with our neighbors, as do they. And unlike what was said upthread, gas is cheaper here than in California, although we have an electric car and solar, so car expenses are really not a factor. We are not rich. We live on social security, pensions, and some rental income from our old condo in Oahu. We shop smartly - stocking up on sale items and getting a lot from Costco (love those $4.99 roast chickens) - and eat lots of seafood.

Yes, I could do a thread about what I don't like about Hawaii, but anyone reading it would say we are just whining about minor stuff and there are lots of others who would happily trade places with us.

by Anonymousreply 147June 30, 2022 10:33 PM

R100 But Belsen was a gas.

Belsen was a gas I heard the other day

In the open graves where the jews all lay

Life is fun and I wish you were here

They wrote on postcards to those held dear

by Anonymousreply 148June 30, 2022 10:35 PM

^ Courtesy of the Sex Pistols

by Anonymousreply 149June 30, 2022 10:36 PM

Only the rich can afford to live in Hawaii.

It has gone from an island paradise in 1950 to a hellish haven for 1%'ers in 2022.

And it only took 70 years for Westerners to do this.

by Anonymousreply 150June 30, 2022 11:06 PM

Thanks for the perspective R147. I used to travel to Oahu once a year for business (my regional VP was based there) and stayed about a week. Once a co-worker was to pick me up from the airport but she had never met me and didn't know what I looked like (this was the 90s, before social media and cell phones with cameras!). I was described as "very haole" so she would get a general idea. Haole is a term that can be used in a derogatory way, but also in an affectionate way depending on the context. I always appreciated the chance to spend time with co-workers who lived there so I could experience more of the local (non-touristy) experience.

What I found is that people were very welcoming if you are respectful. If you come with an arrogant "mainlander" attitude you will be despised. But if you respect local culture and norms and are friendly with people, that's what you get in return.

I was, however, advised to stay away from Waianae because at the time the locals there were sometimes aggressive towards non-natives especially if haole. I don't know if that's still true. Also certain areas around downtown Honolulu (Chinatown, about a block off Bishop St) were dicey at night.

by Anonymousreply 151June 30, 2022 11:19 PM

[quote]I was, however, advised to stay away from Waianae because at the time the locals there were sometimes aggressive towards non-natives especially if haole. I don't know if that's still true.

Interesting. Around 2015, we started looking for a single family home on Oahu, because our condo was just too small. We found a beautiful home in Makaha, which is the next town to Waianae. Actually our Hawaiian handyman found the property and knew we would love it. We definitely considered it, especially after we met a lesbian couple who lived in Makaha - right on the ocean - and talked honestly with us about their experience. Unfortunately, we got outbid on the property, and decided to look instead on Kauai and the Big Island where you get more/better property for your money.

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by Anonymousreply 152June 30, 2022 11:54 PM

We watched a film in grade school that showed Hawaiians eating poi and then my teacher played it backwards. They were then putting their hands in their mouth and pulling out big globs of orange stuff. It was nauseating.

by Anonymousreply 153July 1, 2022 12:24 AM

Poi isn’t orange, it’s gray.

by Anonymousreply 154July 1, 2022 12:25 AM

I understand why some native people are resentful. Imagine having your sovereignty stolen, then being economically sidelined and forced to perform your culture to gawping tourists. No one should be an abusive and threatening cunt to random strangers though. I'm not saying that's common, I'm just saying it happened once to me while visiting Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 155July 1, 2022 12:27 AM

Lol R153.

You're ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 156July 1, 2022 12:32 AM

R143, Hawai'i's not like that. They know they're a long ways away from anything else and there's a strong sense of community and family there. They know how to get by and take care of one another. They're in better shape than Puerto Rico--they've invested heavily in renewables, for instance, though they are petroleum dependent. The islands are mountainous and spread out over hundreds of miles (more than a thousand if you count the ones where no one lives) No hurricane is going to hit the entire island chain at once. Iniki, which was the one that made a direct hit on Kauai and wiped out a bunch of the hotels around Poipu, but the northern, rainy, side survived pretty intact (and, unfortunately, has become a major playground for plutocrats who have bought up a bunch of it.)

There's a lot of interaction between Hawai'i and California--more Hawaiians live in California than Hawaii, for instance. As California's generated more rich people, more Californians have bought getaways in Hawaii and driven the prices up--you can throw in the Seattle millionaire crowd as well--I remember flying into Maui once and just seeing this long row of private jets lined up.

That's a lot of what makes it unaffordable--money made elsewhere buying up property. Anything that comes from the mainland isn't cheap. On the other hand, you spend almost nothing on heat or A/C. You really can pick fresh fruit off the tree and buy fish from someone selling it out of a cooler. Hawaiians weigh less and live longer than mainlanders. They've had universal health care since 2009, but require less hospitalization than the rest of us. They do a lot right. They have a homeless issue because of the cost of housing, but also because you can live in minimal shelter indefinitely there and people do.

by Anonymousreply 157July 1, 2022 1:01 AM

Is it gay methy or redneck methy?

by Anonymousreply 158July 1, 2022 1:04 AM

Local kine methy. Waianae methy. Batu is pervasive.

by Anonymousreply 159July 1, 2022 1:08 AM

I was amazed at hat the #1 tourist destination for Hawaiians was Las Vegas.

by Anonymousreply 160July 1, 2022 1:17 AM

Thanks R159, get it.

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by Anonymousreply 161July 1, 2022 1:19 AM

R160 Why? Gambling and booze = Hawaiian’s kryptonite.

by Anonymousreply 162July 1, 2022 1:21 AM

R138 I know it's kind of trashy but I love it; kind of breaks my heart every time!

by Anonymousreply 163July 1, 2022 1:55 AM

[quote]It's like 90% Orientals.

Not enough Occidentals to make you feel comfortable, eh?

by Anonymousreply 164July 1, 2022 2:36 AM

There's a huge Hawaii-born population in Vegas

by Anonymousreply 165July 1, 2022 3:10 AM

[quote]You really can pick fresh fruit off the tree and buy fish from someone selling it out of a cooler.

That sounds like heaven! I take back the bad stuff I said about HI - I'm moving!

by Anonymousreply 166July 1, 2022 9:24 AM

OP, I could write a book!

by Anonymousreply 167July 1, 2022 12:13 PM

Shrimp vans.

by Anonymousreply 168July 1, 2022 12:39 PM

They killed me and then ate me!!!

by Anonymousreply 169July 1, 2022 1:14 PM

[quote] On the other hand, you spend almost nothing on heat or A/C.

What? It's hot and humid there. I agree no heating costs, but definitely AC costs.

[quote] You really can pick fresh fruit off the tree

If you live on a property with fruit trees, yes.

by Anonymousreply 170July 1, 2022 5:35 PM

R170 It's not that humid or hot. People who live there often prefer living in the hills because it's cooler. Everybody has fans, but lots of people don't have A/C.

by Anonymousreply 171July 1, 2022 6:59 PM

ABC Australia did an interesting story on the islands.

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by Anonymousreply 172July 15, 2022 4:48 AM

I grew up in Honolulu & wouldn't move back....... There are other more beautiful places, as well as places where the locals actually welcome you. Hawaii, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 173July 15, 2022 5:28 AM

A wacko homophobic former friend moved there. That's the worst thing I can think of in Hawaii.

by Anonymousreply 174July 15, 2022 7:18 AM


by Anonymousreply 175March 31, 2024 6:13 AM

Someone in my friend group planned multiple group vacations there, and I know I should feel grateful because we had incredibly swank accommodations. But I don't want to go back. Ever. It's a combination of things. I've been back since then with my partner and faced weirdly intense hostility from locals just minding my own business shopping at the supermarket. And everything I read in my local newspapers (San Francisco Bay Area) lately says Hawaiians do not want us tourists visiting there, so fine. I won't be back. Enjoy your moldy little swampland, bitches.

by Anonymousreply 176March 31, 2024 6:22 AM

Dearth of sizemeat

by Anonymousreply 177March 31, 2024 6:31 AM

I can’t think of anything really terrible about it. I was on that island where it rains everyday and its super green. But it rains everyday in Washington state and it’s super green but a lot cheaper. I was disappointed they didn’t meet us with leis like every TV show I’ve seen.

by Anonymousreply 178March 31, 2024 8:23 AM

I would hate the place. Nevermind that it's 28 hours and 2 connections distant. Sun and sand destinations are at the bottom of my list, and only then when they are connected to interesting historic cities. Hawaii has little historic architecture, and less of any unique character. Its housing stock doesn't appeal to me; nevermind trying to furnish a place with everything imported at great expense. For me it's too limited in cultural offerings, food, connections to the world; too far removed from the range and variety of things I enjoy having close at hand.

I understand many people love the place and that it it appeals to many, but it's not a place I would want to visit (even if it were "only" 6 hours distant) and definitely not a place i would want to live.

by Anonymousreply 179March 31, 2024 8:23 AM

The cockroaches are massive and they fly. The locals hate you and they will rob you.

by Anonymousreply 180March 31, 2024 8:57 AM
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