I watched this movie for the first time last night. WOW.
What a sad and terrible thing that happened to Jodie Foster.
Kelly McGillis in her last good role.
Interesting both Foster and McGillis are lesbians.
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I watched this movie for the first time last night. WOW.
What a sad and terrible thing that happened to Jodie Foster.
Kelly McGillis in her last good role.
Interesting both Foster and McGillis are lesbians.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 10, 2022 11:53 PM |
Glenn Close should have won the Best Actress Oscar for Dangerous Liaisons that year, not Foster.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 8, 2022 6:23 PM |
R1 I haven't seen Dangerous Liaisons yet. I want to read the book first.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 8, 2022 6:35 PM |
[QUOTE] What a sad and terrible thing that happened to Jodie Foster.
Jodie is an ACTOR. Did you mean the sad and terrible thing that happened to the real-life woman who Jodie was portraying in the film?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 8, 2022 6:37 PM |
One of the rapist, Steve Antin, is openly gay, successful in his own right, and recently dated David Geffen.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 8, 2022 6:39 PM |
R3. Cunts like you are tedious. You know what he means, within the context of the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 8, 2022 6:41 PM |
I didn't know Kelly McGillis was a lesbian
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 8, 2022 6:52 PM |
I would have sent this to TV and let Jodie win the Emmy. Meryl, Glenn and Siggy each gave career best performances in 1988
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 8, 2022 7:11 PM |
They have the viewer wait until almost the end to see the actual gang rape which is very effective. It’s very disturbing, brutal and real.
Jodie deserved it. This wasn’t viewed as a “TV movie” quality at that time. It definitely has an 80s look but that doesn’t mean it’s Lifetime.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 8, 2022 7:16 PM |
At the time there were rumors that Jodie and Kelly were in a love triangle with Whitney Houston
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 8, 2022 7:18 PM |
R9 Whitney is better than them. and NOT a lesbian
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 8, 2022 7:24 PM |
Her new biopic begs to differ, R10.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 8, 2022 7:26 PM |
This movie was based on a crime perpetrated against a Portuguese woman, Cheryl Araujo. By casting Foster, the movie completely erased the racial aspect of the case. Even after the verdict, Araujo was ostracized and moved to Florida for start over. She died in a car accident shortly thereafter.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 8, 2022 7:35 PM |
R12 thanks, poor woman.
I agree it did well as a theatrical movie but it also was one of the few movies who's star won Best Actress without it getting any other Oscar nomination. It would have done better on TV.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 8, 2022 7:49 PM |
Great film. My first thought was how badly I wished it was me on the pinball machine. I would have happily complied with those hot straight men. So much cum. YUM
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 8, 2022 8:04 PM |
R12 Yeah, that was on an episode of Trial by Media.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 8, 2022 8:04 PM |
The gang rape scene is brutal. Love Jodie - she was fantastic in this.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | June 8, 2022 8:06 PM |
Seek help, R14.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | June 8, 2022 8:07 PM |
Fuck off R17. Go police somebody else's thoughts and desires. Who are you to tell me getting knocked up by a train of men means I need to seek help. Help yourself!
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 8, 2022 8:24 PM |
R14 = that slut who caught hiv and monkey pox in dubai
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 8, 2022 8:27 PM |
I've always thought this is interesting trivia: McGillis and Foster were originally cast in each other's roles. Before filming started, they went to the director and asked to switch. He had to think about it but eventually told them to go ahead.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 8, 2022 8:33 PM |
r13, sadly, it's not so rare. Films that give meaty roles to women are often ignored in other categories by the Academy, whose membership tends toward male-driven fare. Kathy Bates in Misery, Jessica Lange for Blue Sky, Charlize Theron for Monster, and Julianne Moore for Still Alice were also the only nominations for their films. (And there are several others where the only other nom was for makeup, which seems related, like The Iron Lady and The Eyes of Tammy Faye.)
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 8, 2022 8:33 PM |
r4, not so recently. Antin and Geffen dated in the 80s.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 8, 2022 8:35 PM |
R21 Except for Silence of the Lambs
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 8, 2022 8:48 PM |
The delicious bared rears shook me out of the melodrama, and how. They looked like ripe peaches 🍑 rolling along on a grocery store conveyer belt.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 8, 2022 9:02 PM |
R12 Portuguese people are white Europeans, like Spaniards or Italians.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 8, 2022 9:07 PM |
R4 SHOCKINGLY FROZEN IN TIME IN HIS ELDERGAY CRYPT. Where 1980s is recently.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 8, 2022 9:37 PM |
[quote]I've always thought this is interesting trivia: McGillis and Foster were originally cast in each other's roles. Before filming started, they went to the director and asked to switch. He had to think about it but eventually told them to go ahead.
Not according to Wikipedia(or IMDB).
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 8, 2022 9:49 PM |
R27 He is getting that confused with the Rue McClanahan/Betty White Blanche/Rose swap in the Golden Girls.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 8, 2022 9:53 PM |
I've actually herd tat before. Remember Kelly McGillis was the bigger star at the time and received top billing. The Jodie role was originally intended for her but the director thought they would be more believable in the the roles in which thy played.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 8, 2022 10:18 PM |
I never heard they swapped roles either.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 8, 2022 10:36 PM |
r30, I don't care wtf you've heard, were telling you now.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 8, 2022 10:38 PM |
Jodie thought she sucked in it, and was going to go back to college if it flopped. She probably wouldn’t have gotten Silence of the Lambs if the Accused went nowhere. So this movie and Oscar win completely transformed her career.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 8, 2022 11:15 PM |
It's strange that McGillis wasn't nominated(for anything). The academy also failed to nominate her two years before for Witness, even after she was nominated for a GG award and a BAFTA. I wonder why.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 8, 2022 11:28 PM |
The movie is middling Lifetime tv crap. Jodie's attempt to dance "sexy" in the bar scene is one of the most cringeworthy things I have ever seen.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 8, 2022 11:41 PM |
r34, Well you aren't straight so you won't get it. She perfectly captured a drunken unassuming young woman.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 8, 2022 11:43 PM |
It was not a great performance at all. I'm not sure what everyone is seeing in it. Her accent was terrible and really unconvincing. And the material wasn't anything special. It is not a great movie. There have been good/great movies that involve sex crimes and this isn't one of them.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 8, 2022 11:45 PM |
That rape scene is uncomfortable to watch. Jodie must have been emotionally and physically exhausted. They must have shot that over a few nights.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 8, 2022 11:52 PM |
A fascinating article from The Hollywood Reporter on the difficulties of making the film. The problems with the perception of the content were constant. Everyone in the production was incredibly brave (I did not know the K McGillis had been raped just a few years prior to filming) to tackle the subject and its complex ugliness. It was a strong year for actresses, but Jodie deservedly won the Oscar, as well as a Golden Globe.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 8, 2022 11:52 PM |
Jodie won an Academy Award pretending to be irritated she got some dick? Such range.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 9, 2022 12:59 AM |
Thanks for your perspective, Justice Kavanaugh.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 9, 2022 1:09 AM |
The movie is actually very similar to Town Without Pity, although that movie unfolds in a conventional manner. Kirk Douglas plays the defense lawyer. Ironic.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 9, 2022 1:27 AM |
[quote]At the time there were rumors that Jodie and Kelly were in a love triangle with Whitney Houston
A scar/black eye was supposedly written into the movie after Whitney allegedly stormed the set, trashed Kelly's trailer and punched Jodie in the face. This is pre-internet gossip literally decades before Kelly or Jodie publicly came out and we heard of Whitney's bisexuality from her best friend.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 9, 2022 2:27 AM |
R25 actually most Portuguese in New Bedford, MA immigrated from the Azores, where most inhabitants descended from a mix of Sephardic Jews and Muslims/other North Africans as well as Portuguese. The Accused made it seem as if class facilitated the crime and hindered the subsequent fight for justice; the assailants were preps, the victim townie white trash. In reality, it was college students who rescued the victim, who was raped by other Portuguese.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 9, 2022 2:45 AM |
Jodie fosters best performance, bar none.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 9, 2022 3:04 AM |
I saw this as a kid, and it left a memorable impression (censorship didn't exist in the home I grew up in).
The one thing I have to laugh at standing out was that awful haircut she gave 'herself'. WHO greenlit THAT look?!?
It also felt like it could have been a lifetime movie, but bc my mother was a mess with substances it definitely resembled that type of character which left a totally different, scarier impression. (She actually was like the character Uma Thurman played in Hysterical Blindness- desperate, townie with a drinking problem and bad reputation).
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 9, 2022 4:27 AM |
So has anyone here been lucky enough to get it like she did on the pinball machine? Tell all
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 9, 2022 6:37 AM |
^ Still trolling. Still a failure.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 9, 2022 6:45 AM |
I see what you did there, R44.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 9, 2022 2:53 PM |
R25 they were all considered 'white-adjacent' in New England.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 9, 2022 5:37 PM |
Does anyone find any e idence for R31's claim Jodie and Kelly swapped roles? I find it very hard to believe since the Producers really did not want Jodie for the movie in either role and Kelly flat out refused to play Sarah. There's no mention of this swap on the internet, I do think they've mixed this up with Rue and Betty!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 9, 2022 6:31 PM |
R50, Madonna was actually the lead choice for this. She turned the film down. She also turned down Scarface, Goodfellas, and Sophie's Choice. Madonna was on the shortlist of many acclaimed directors films but she turned them down to do edgy films like Shanghai Surprise.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 9, 2022 6:40 PM |
Madonna didn't turn down SOPHIE'S CHOICE. She was a nobody in 1982. Her first album wasn't released until 1983 and she didn't make a splash until 1984 with her second album LIKE A VIRGIN. And she wasn't offered film roles until the success of DESPERATELY SEEKING SUSAN in 1985.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 9, 2022 6:52 PM |
[quote] The movie is middling Lifetime tv crap. Jodie's attempt to dance "sexy" in the bar scene is one of the most cringeworthy things I have ever seen.
The film would've been more interesting if they had someone actually sexy and a little more trashy than Foster. I'm thinking something like Margot Robbie in I, Tonya. Foster couldn't pull that off.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 9, 2022 7:01 PM |
The character didn't need to be sexy.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 9, 2022 7:23 PM |
No, it would add an interesting dimension if she was.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 9, 2022 7:25 PM |
Dimension? She's supposed to be a trashy, not particularly likeable, average bar girl. Someone the public would not care about or might even think deserved what she got. The point is that even a trashy girl can be raped, and that it is a crime. She represented the hundreds of thousands of victims who had largely been ignored up until that point.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 9, 2022 7:34 PM |
[quote]or might even think deserved what she got.
That's the point. Foster doesn't succeed at playing that. Not smutty enough. Too buttoned-up.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 9, 2022 7:36 PM |
Oscar said otherwise.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 9, 2022 7:38 PM |
R57 Foster looked/acted pretty smutty to me in the bar/rape scenes. She was openly flirting with the men, flinging herself at them and dancing provocatively toward/with them. They said it was unfair to the young men because she was leading them on.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 9, 2022 7:51 PM |
I don't know if she really succeeded in selling it. Her 'sexy' thing doesn't really take off.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 9, 2022 7:55 PM |
You seem like a delusional viewer of the CW network, where EVERY character is a sexy, pouting vixen.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 9, 2022 7:58 PM |
R55 it actually added a dimension because she wasn't particularly sexy yet was in the wrong place at the wrong time
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 9, 2022 8:06 PM |
R60 sexiness wasn't the point but that she was seemingly promiscuous.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 9, 2022 8:09 PM |
And Jodie failed at seeming promiscuous.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 9, 2022 8:30 PM |
R64 this isn't going to end until one of us dies, is it?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 9, 2022 8:34 PM |
To add fuel to this fire, Foster was really, very believable as a desperate, ill mannered, loose and slutty type because of her lack of glamour. The type of woman being depicted exists in every town in every state of the U.S. and Jodie was organic and rough enough to play this type. The kind of woman who becomes pathetic to a degree when knee deep in booze and other things. She didn't need to be beautiful to be believable and overwhelming good looks would've detracted from the resonance of the film.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 9, 2022 10:45 PM |
The role needed someone like Laura Johnson
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 9, 2022 11:47 PM |
They should have cast Faye Dunaway.
Don't FUCK with me fellas! This ain't my first pinball machine!
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 9, 2022 11:54 PM |
That's David Geffen at R22 in the middle? I had no idea what he looked like - he looks a lot younger in the 80s than I was expecting. I thought Joni wrote "Free Man in Paris" about him in the early 70s, so assumed he would look older. He wasn't bad looking either.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 10, 2022 12:07 AM |
I think is the most recent photo of her available.
She looks happy now. Good for her!
Men who rape are TRASH.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 10, 2022 12:56 AM |
[quote]This movie was based on a crime perpetrated against a Portuguese woman, Cheryl Araujo. By casting Foster, the movie completely erased the racial aspect of the case.
The racial aspect? A white chick playing a Portuguese i.e. European i.e. white chick erased the "racial aspect" ?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 10, 2022 2:52 AM |
The director actually wanted me but I wasn't born yet.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 10, 2022 4:50 AM |
I never heard that they switched roles either.
What I heard is McGillis was offered her choice of parts and picked the lawyer (speculation was that as a rape victim in real life she didn't want to go thru it again on film.)
Jennifer Jason Leigh and Jodie were the finalists for the other part. Leigh was the more conventional choice but they decided to take a chance on Jodie. (She even says in her Golden Globe speech that she knows she wasn't the conventional choice for the role.)
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 10, 2022 6:41 AM |
R170/R171 that isn't this Cheryl Araujo, who died in a car crash in 1986.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 10, 2022 11:03 AM |
R72 what part of 'the Portuguese were viewed as white-adjacent' don't you get?
This case spawned a lot of anti-Portuguese/anti-immigration sentiment, particularly in New England. Portuguese-Americans were subjected to racial slurs and harassment.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 10, 2022 11:09 AM |
She got the trailer trash element down. But not the slutty element. The idea that 'she was asking for it' would've made the film more interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 10, 2022 11:26 AM |
R72 Araujo, like most immigrants in New Bedford, was from the Azores and thus of mixed racial and ethnic descent. She was not “white” in the eyes of anybody in New England/the USA at the time. Her own community vilified and threatened her and the case stoked animus against the Portuguese community. Casting Jodie Foster and turning the rapists into college kids completely erased this dimension of the story. While Araujo’s actual rapists were convicted, the onlookers/cheerleaders were acquitted, unlike what happens in the movie.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 10, 2022 12:45 PM |
Bud from Halloween II would NEVER be a rape cheerleader.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | June 10, 2022 12:48 PM |
I spoke with Leo Rossi at a convention about filming the rape scene and he spoke very highly of Jodie Foster. He was so impressed with her skills and how she handled everything.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 10, 2022 12:53 PM |
This is Jodie's best performance, even better than Silence of the Lambs. I generally find her acting to be very mannered. but she was very believable in this role.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 10, 2022 1:02 PM |
R38 Interesting how Kelly and Jodie don't talk about each other at all in that article
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 10, 2022 1:13 PM |
For those interested in the actual case, it was profiled on an episode of the Netflix series TRIAL BY MEDIA. The episode is titled "Big Dan's" after the name of the bar.
The case received so much publicity that it angered many Portuguese-Americans toward Araujo. They felt that she was shaming their community, because Portuguese men were now being eyed skeptically as potential rapists.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 10, 2022 1:14 PM |
The movie is just ok, but I thought Jodie was fantastic and usually I'm very meh on her acting. What could have been a bombastic melodramatic performance became much more subtle, quieter and vulnerable. It was more deserved than her oscar for SotL for sure.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 10, 2022 1:18 PM |
[quote] Interesting how Kelly and Jodie don't talk about each other at all in that article.
Love Is A Contact Sport.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | June 10, 2022 4:18 PM |
I only watched this once as a teen but I totally understood Jodie in that bar came across as drunk, cheap and flirty. She didn't need to be sexy, more beautiful or alluring. Those rapists weren't looking for a great beauty or someone "special". They were drunk, horny and thought she didn't matter enough so they could do what they liked.
I still think Glenn should have won over Jodie in hindsight but Meryl gave the performance of the year as Lindy Chamberlain. The Academy would never give her a third so soon though.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 10, 2022 10:03 PM |
[quote]Araujo, like most immigrants in New Bedford, was from the Azores and thus of mixed racial and ethnic descent. She was not “white” in the eyes of anybody in New England/the USA at the time. Her own community vilified and threatened her and the case stoked animus against the Portuguese community. Casting Jodie Foster and turning the rapists into college kids completely erased this dimension of the story. While Araujo’s actual rapists were convicted, the onlookers/cheerleaders were acquitted, unlike what happens in the movie.
I don't know that much about the case, R78, but I have a feeling that you're perhaps overstating Araujo's colouring as a factor. Yes, the ethic make-up of the Azores is different from the mainland, but I don't think that adds up to much. Perhaps you're confusing the Azores with Cape Verde or São Tomé and Príncipe?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 10, 2022 11:31 PM |
Yeah race was not such a factor
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