Gen Z is immature

Because reality is transphobic, OP.

It’s really on a few.

You know how like with trans people, the trans people you know are normal but the leaders and Twitter and the activists are all bat shit?

It’s like that with Gen Z. My sister is graduating high school, she says there are pronoun people but it’s not the majority and a lot of school policies enforce the “Gen Z PC” ideology.

The Gen Z people I know say the same stuff we say on here. Whenever I talk about it with younger people, they just tell me these are mostly weird theater kids.

Their culture seems very female - oriented. I don't get them at all.

R2 oh please, not the "it's only a tiny amount, #notallzoomers".

There's been studies done! They're also having a lot less sex and are lonelier than the other generations.

They're dumb too. I heard them call an hourglass a "sand clock" at a store once.

It doesn’t surprise me that they’re having less sex, they can’t even look people in the eye when they speak. Maybe if they put their phones down they’d be getting down.

*yawn

I see things like r*pe, s*x and such on reddit and think it's bizarre. They really can't type out those words?

You're JUST CATCHING ON TO THIS OP?

R8 I think when people write like that, or like here when they write pr0n instead of porn it’s because they’re posting from work and such words might get them flagged by monitoring systems.

They soften themselves because social media makes it so easy for them to judge and attack one another. I'm a big proponent that kids should go back to diaries, where you can be as honest and messy as you want without criticism.

*trigger warning* "I want to d word" (apparently, "die") "k word" etc..

[quote]You're JUST CATCHING ON TO THIS OP?

Nope. Just finally gotten around to mentioning it. You salty twat.

R13, 2015 called. They want their Time Machine back...

Overparenting.

R7 it isn’t anything to do with trying to divide. It is an honest and startling observation. These people don’t want to work, don’t want to say simple words like “death”, don’t want to acknowledge unpleasant things like the Holocaust, don’t want to have sex, don’t like to act like adults in general, don’t want to pay student loans back, love to cosplay…..it is scary for the future of American and Western society.

[quote]2015 called. They want their Time Machine back...

Were people back then already noticing that you are a salty twat?

They are the weirdest generation. It’s like they’re stuck in infancy. They can’t even stand hand clapping. It’s triggering.

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And also sorely lacking in intellectual rigor, which is actually related to their inability to cope with reality

It’s so mentally stunted to think of large groups in broad generalities and stereotypes, including generator. OP sounds like a total simpleton.

It's the generation that came up with the concept of "safe space". That tells you everything, really.

With Pride month rapidly approaching, a friendly reminder that they despise it.

They're the ones who got the flag changed, however, and will post incessantly about Marsha and Sylvia throughout the month.

OP, I stand, like a back bencher in the U.K's parliament, with you and the character assaults that you will endure.

It’s so mentally stunted to think of large groups in broad generalities and stereotypes, including generations. OP sounds like a total simpleton.

R25 You're living in a cartoon world OR you choose to bury your head in the sand. Which one is it? YOU PICK!

R16 your statement is simply a long list of right wing cultural bogeymen.

[quote]It’s so mentally stunted to think of large groups in broad generalities and stereotypes

I'll remember this statement, BRO.

[quote]your statement is simply a long list of right wing cultural bogeymen.

Using words like “Holocaust” and “sexual abuse” are rightwing? Expecting that one should earn their own money for a living is also a rightwing thing? Being a responsible adult is, too?? You sound like a lazy and entitled slob.

They are so weird.

I feel sorry for them. Loss of freedom and autonomy- not just culturally, but Covid ending their socialization for two years and social media alienating them from each other and all humanity...

They've all been raised to be autistic.

Don’t say dumb stuff r31

R32, excellently crafted and well considered counter argument, a gold star and a snack for you sweety! You're very smart and brave!

I find them to be artistically and culturally illiterate as well. I get idiot shivers reading any Gen Z “analysis” of film, particularly any older film.

My boss’s daughter is 17, will be 18 in October. DearGod in heaven she is the most annoying twat I’ve ever been exposed to. She’s gifted, so not classically dumb, but she has never had to deal with or figure out anything on her own. She has meltdowns about stupid shit; big test coming and she doesn’t have all the material covered, she calls her mom, at work, and proceeds to have a meltdown. I had to take over the meeting so she could deal with it; while texting her husband to leave work and go talk to her. WTF is she going to do at university!? And She wants to do a year in Europe!!!

^She also has never had a boyfriend.

R35 omg! That sounds eerily similar to my friend’s daughter. She is 19 (soon to be 20) years old and was a supposed honor student, yet she does not know how to use her own bank account or write in cursive. She legit had no clue how to read a letter written in cursive!! Nor did she understand how to use an ATM. Fucking weird. She also identifies as lesbian, yet has never been on a date in her entire life. She is spoiled rotten and still lives with her parents and even goes on trips with them all expenses paid!! It is so fucking odd. She seems like a big child. Asexual even.

It's a ruined generation. We'll just have to hold their hands and shuttle them along, duck their shootings, and hope they disappear eventually.

R37, What’s going to happen to them!? I keep telling my boss, you better hope she falls for someone soon, cause if she gets her heart broken in college, she’s going to have to drop out. 😀

R5 that's kinda cute. I literally LOL'd when I read that.

I been substitute teaching at a high school recently and trust me. The pronoun thing doesn't really exist. Nobody is triggered by "ladies and gentlemen." The girls are still girly with long hair, crop tops and makeup. The boys still boys, cocky, obnoxious and casual use of slurs to be edgy. The only difference is they are actually far more polite than Millennials were as teens. I'm millennial and I was surprised by how so many tell you "thank you", "have a nice day", "I appreciate you", etc. I feel Millennials were far more rude to teachers from my memories in high school.

But I live in the Northeast, so bullshit is not tolerated as much. Its the upperclass college kids from the rural areas that seem way more oversensitive and obsessed with being "edgy". When I was college, I noticed the kids from urban areas and conventionally attractive ones weren't "non-binary", it was always very plain-looking white ones from bumfuck areas. Many of these kids went to my NJ college and were wannabe NYers. I've never met a trans or genderfluid hipster that wasn't from money.

I frequent several businesses that have Gen Zs on the front lines. They are wonderful; full of life, polite, efficient.

R42 I agree. A lot of the stereotypes are actually young Millennials. I can attest as I am in the group of Millennials born in the early 90s that got sucked in that obnoxious social justice social media circle of the late 2000s and 2010s. Gen Z seem far more practical and less navel-gazing. Most of those annoying Elite Daily and Buzzfeed articles are written by upper-class white Millennial women. Gen Z overall is still too young to pinpoint an exact attitude yet.

Why does DL believe in stereotypes so much? Considering that old white gay men are associated with some of the most negative stereotypes in history, you would think this group would be the least likely to believe or perpetuate stereotypes?

What are some of those most negative stereotypes in history? Let's hear.

R41 I live in California where the stuntedness is very real. These poor kids are not idiots, they are just easily upset by ridiculous stuff. Nobody should be set off by a hula doll on a dashboard. I have seen an argument about this very thing between my nephew and my brother- in-law . I kid you not. It is racist and appropriation, apparently.

You’re not THAT dense, r45 🙄

You're not THAT homophobic, ZaddyBro.

Oh wait, yes you are.

Just because I don’t vibe with you doesn’t mean I’m homophobic, dude

Sure you are. It's proven every damn day. Very typical too, if you know what I mean.

R46 That's the difference between the East Coast and West I've noticed. I too noticed people from California are very "soft" so to speak. I'm from New Jersey where it's considered rude to be too wishy-washy or slow to act. Nobody really cares too much about political correctness. In fact many Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, Polish-Americans and Jews will not hear it because they will bring up their ancestors and their struggle. Plus we have a high population of Caribbean Hispanics, Mexicans, Asians and Indians too and they all say the N-word like it's nothing. There's a strong community probably because of the population density and we're forced to coexist and tolerate each other. Ethnic jokes are casual and not taken seriously, sorta self-deprecating. White people from California, Oregon and Washington state due seem to always be walking on eggshells in comparison.

[quote] That's the difference between the East Coast and West I've noticed. I too noticed people from California are very "soft" so to speak.

LA has no problem chewing someone up and spitting them out -- not that I think that's necessarily a great quality.

It's almost like they are so afraid of everything, especially growing up.

Average age of poster in this thread: 78.

Average hours a day spent on Facebook/Twitter: 23.

Number of insights never made about a previous generation: 0.

[quote] Gen Z overall is still too young to pinpoint an exact attitude yet.

You must be kidding. They are awful online.

R55 Everyone is awful online. Have you seen old people in Facebook and Twitter? The internet brought out the ugliness of everyone. I don't judge the teens doing stupid dances online the same way I'm going to judge some fifty year old MAGAt sharing hateful misinformation, a 40-year-old basement dwelling troll who gets off on disorder on Reddit or a 33-year-old Beyhive member who sends out obnoxious tweets.

Amen 👏🏾

R52 I think brutal honesty is better than passive-aggressiveness. It's more efficient. Walking on eggshells to please everyone isn't. Even in the Southeast, they know how to let people know when to shut up and get with it with sarcasm.

[quote] I think brutal honesty is better than passive-aggressiveness.

Having grown up with blunt, plain-speaking and aggressive overbearing extroverted family....it really isn’t better.

R59 I kinda like the Southern way of sarcasm. "Bless your heart...", "You don't say?, "You're in your own little world ain't ya?" and "Aren't you special."

People don't just sprout out of the womb. You're also taking online behavior of semi anonymous individuals on Reddit, ascribing and age/generation to them and then making grand idiotic ASSumptions.

You don't know the age of people on Reddit unless they tell you or you work for the MoSsad/NSA that runs the place, or you stalk their posts and wait for them to mention it. You also don't know why they are using such word stylings. The entire subreddit can be accused of harboring hate speech and shut down. Self censorship is common.

If "gen Z" behaves any particular way (highly dubious. Generations contain rich and poor and make and female and all kinds of other categories that shape behavior, including family origin, birth order and a million other factors) then they are probably doing so because of how and what they have been taught by the society, parents, teachers, peers, etc.

Your whole argument is bunk but you are making hay here with these dittoheads that work themselves up daily into a later on these psyop threads touting some kind of bigoted essentialism or other about some kind of identity group.

R61, you are my type of person! Bravo 👏🏾

OP is probably an elderly Trump voter who compares vaccines mandates to the Holocaust

I don't think DL is a great site for judging maturity. It's not different from the cattiness of LSA, LPSG, FemaleFirst, GameFAQs or any of those other crusty old forums. Reddit and Twitter are obnoxious too. Everyone acts like children on the internet basically because there's no repercussions. And honestly most adults are forced to be mature by societal expectations. Online they don't have that especially if anonymous.

The oldest member of that generational cohort is 24. Of course they’re immature. Am I missing something?

[quote]I don't think DL is a great site for judging maturity.

We CAN and we WILL!!!

I wish gen Z could be more present with people around them in general-- eye contact, conversation etc. I was born on the cusp of the zoomer/millennial cutoff so I have a good perspective on it, especially as a tutor for college kids now. The younger millenials I grew up with weren't as tech consumed and always talked and joked out in the open in class. I've taught some high school/college classes now and the vibe is more to yourelf than it used to be. More internet obsession, less friendliness. Some kids only show their personality on tiktok/insta etc.

R35, maybe, just maybe she and others like her will learn not to take everything for granted during the coming recession.

[quote]OP is probably an elderly Trump voter who compares vaccines mandates to the Holocaust

This is the kind of immature nonsense I am talking about. How do you access that I am a Repig just because I have pointed out how infantile it is for young adults to not want to face reality? Since when does being Liberal mean being a fucking big pussy? These kids are much too soft. You are in denial if you have not noticed this.

[quote]The oldest member of that generational cohort is 24. Of course they’re immature. Am I missing something?

It is 25 and that is old enough to have a job and not feel the need to censor words like “rape”. It seems to be a theme on social media. Gen Z omits words like “orgy”. It is strange. I am a Millennial, so it isn’t like the age gap is so huge that I don’t remember being their age. There is a stunted quality to their culture.

Shut up dude

[quote]Shut up dude

Um, no.

[quote]Overparenting.

Blame Gen X.

r22 Millennials started "safe space."

[quote] They're dumb too. I heard them call an hourglass a "sand clock" at a store once.

Amazing how tens of millions of Zoomers were all in The Mall of East Central North Flyoverstan at the same time.

I mean, when you go to college, and demand things like ‘trigger alerts’ for your readings, and deplatform professors for showing now-taboo subjects like blackface *in their historical context*, instead of wrestling with these difficult subjects like previous generations, of course you’ll end up with a whole generation not intellectually robust enough to cope with challenging subjects

Professor Allan Bloom talked about ‘The Closing of the American Mind’ in the 80s. If he were still alive today, he’d have to revise the title to ‘The Softening of the American Mind’

Tbf to Zoomers there are plenty of Millennials who fit the same description (myself among them). I think anyone who was a kid or grew up after the 90s has a different and as-yet misunderstood experience of life.

We could ascribe this to any number of causal factors—tv/media exposure to desensitising scenes of terr0r and endless war, hypersurveillance and the awareness of it, capitalism’s drive for a monoculture, atomisation, automation...the list goes on. What matters more is how we address it.

Personally, things like agoraphobia, crippling social aversion, burnout, lack of identity and abiding depression have all been mainstays of my life since the age of 14. My brain is so accustomed to this that I don’t know of any other way to be. The complex, whatever it is, seems highly treatment resistant, too—neither drugs nor therapy nor just ignoring it and ‘powering through’ seem to work. I feel as if I had my youth stolen by a phantom.

But sure, malign and crumble and call anyone under the age of 45 a snowflake, without giving it another thought or making any kind of attempt to understand. That’ll work.

Online self-censoring ("I want to unalive myself") is a way to get around algorithms. I think there's even a term for it, algospeak, If it drifts into speech, well, that's slang for you.

R2 nailed it

To put it in terms Eldergays can understand:

Hippies:Boomers = Woke:Zoomers

All the shit you are whining about was on college campuses a decade ago.

My Gen Jones parents endured the same criticism from their Silent Gen parents.

Every older person thinks that they’re the most resilient and knowledgeable and authoritative person in the room.

[quote]I think when people write like that, or like here when they write pr0n instead of porn it’s because they’re posting from work and such words might get them flagged by monitoring systems.

There are these newfangled things called Smartphones now. That's where you look at DL at work.

I agree that this generation is very weird, but older people need to get off their crosses about certain things. Cursive handwriting being one of them. Cursive is irrelevant and it's not the end of the world that it isn't used anymore. And of course since this is DL - not knowing who some tv stars/tv shows of the 70s and 80s were isn't the end of the world either. The world won't stop spinning if 20 year-olds don't know Mary Tyler Moore or Charlie's Angels.

[quote]Online self-censoring ("I want to unalive myself") is a way to get around algorithms.

r78 that sentence should scare the fuck out of you, and anyone who reads it. And the way things are going, we're going to be the last generation who both knows why and experienced it.

Well, at least they were born in 1997 or AFTER, not so embarrassing for them to be immature at this point, meanwhile a whole army of KARENS were born way before 1980 and are still very immature cunts.

R83, proudly stupid. You are defending stupidity. We need to be able to read cursive- if only for archival purposes.

My fourth grade nephew writes in cursive. I receive thank you notes from him in cursive. His parents are a millennial and my Gen X brother. Grad degrees and wealthy. Probably a correlation there, eh?

^^^^

Lol, this cursive is dead is an American thing, many countries out there are still teaching everyone cursive.

You can still read cursive even if you don't write it. Cursive writing is archaic, it's not necessary anymore.

OK fine, American schools no longer teach cursive. We've discussed this many times before. Better they learn active shooter drills (that don't work) instead.

However, cursive was first brought up in this thread about a friend's daughter who [italic]can't even read[/italic] a letter in cursive. Really? Cursive is still English, not Sanskrit!

The friend's daughter is just a fucking dumb cunt r89. Don't let that influence your opinion of her entire generation.

R86’a nephew would dial with a pencil, if we still did that as a society.

You know you're an out-of-touch mincing prisspot when you're over the moon that your nephew writes thank you notes in cursive and how it reflects on his wealthy, educated parents. Such a "good family."

All that's missing is a mention of being WASP.

Self-victimization happens in every generation.

What makes it different now is how self-victimization is ruthlessly weaponized by Gen Z [and Millennias] to take down the perceived enemy: you make me feel unsafe, and that alone is sufficient reason to demolish you/your career/book deals/platforms/ reputation etc etc.

It’s really Nietzsche’s Ressentiment viciously coming to life. And this is what distinguishes Gen Z and Millennials from previous generations

R92, you insult poor.

Goddamnit, I'm sorry, I'm trying to stop being an asshole after the shooting, no need to put more bad energy out there. Wish I could delete R94.

Millennials and Gen X were just as insufferable before growing up. You’re all simply witnessing life from the other perspective now.

Gen Z is between 9 and 24 years old. Obviously, they are immature. Gen Z has now been through the pandemic, a catastrophe that no previous generation has experienced as young adults. Education costs have never been higher and long-term job prospects have never been worse. Their concerns are valid, in my opinion. And compared to millennials, they seem less entitled. If all you know of Gen Z are loudmouths on Twitter, then your view is skewed. And even those loudmouths are concerned about the state of the world.

Well then! My fancy fine fellow cursive writing nephew is 10, so he redeems you all!

I have a Gen X in his twenties working for me part-time. He is probably an exceptional person but he is hard working and polite. He's also intelligent and makes excellent suggestions.

I meant Gen Z ^