Why do so many new guys keep going into porn?

go check out what cute little Sean Storm is up to now

I met Sean Storm like 25 years ago when he was brand new and he was at Southern Decadence. He seemed like a nice guy, but I don’t want to see him now. Better to remember him as he was at the very beginning.

They're sex addicted exhibitionists, Rose. Plain and simple.

Because WHORES gonna WHORES! Op

You have bad taste in porn

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."

Mary! op.

I like Nate Grimes. Seems to enjoy sex. Ten years ago I would have been up to be destroyed by Cutler X.

Mind your own beeswax, you prude, OP!

Young guys don't tend to think deeply before acting. They tend to feel invincible. Porn is easy money for lazy guys. If the guy is exhibitionist who gets off on showing his body. It's a plus.

Because they want to get into show business.

Drugs and mental illness

News flash OP. Pornography is not the haven of stable well adjusted young men and women.

I'd bet 99 times out of ten they have a history of trauma, probably compounded by a need for money to acquire whatever substances they use to numb the pain.

Sex addicted whores wanna make A few bucks doing what they do used to do for free all the time??

It's the only way out of the trailer park!

These two. The Asian literally and physically looks like a 14 year old. Creepy as fuck. They are on OnlyFans...And the other one isn't a Rocket Scientist.

Quick and easy, low effort money. Once they are sucked in and get used to the 'lifestyle' it's hard to go back.

They got tired of dealing with cubical Fraus and Secret Santa parties.

Some men like the idea of making money to show off a body and/or a big dick. To get paid to have sex seems only a step more difficult (and much more ego stroking) than to get paid to breath in and exhale.

For people without a host of career path options, it seems all the more glamorous and easy. Getting paid X $ for a 12 minute sex scene works out to a tidy sum per minute of screen time and so it can be justified in the way that a faded starlet whose career is nosediving accepts a tidy sum to fly to Dubai for a weekend and a half hour of "face time" with some sheikh.

Did anyone ever get filthy rich getting filthy in gay films? Not that I know of, but I suspect most see it as a shirt time situation, an in-between phase, a stop on the way to somewhere else. And what were their other options: international art law? Ambassador to France? CEO of Fortune 500 company? Licensed crane operator? Anesthesiologist?

R1 I had no idea who Sean Storm was. I made the mistake of googling him. If you find what he does sexy then you are one sick mofo! 🤮🤮🤮

R18 it was either porn or death by sheetcake

Thanks for sharing R20. And damn am I glad I went to college.

Drugs

[quote]I'd bet 99 times out of ten they have a history of trauma

Thanks for the 99 out of ten chuckle.

Where are you living, OP? Moscow?

I clicked on bitt0rr3nt and I see the same ugly over-tatted, monsteroid guys over and over so repeatedly that I want to become asexual!

The foley of youth. I was offered money to appear in a porno film in the 80's declined.

The rules are simply. Don't do anything you wouldn't want your mother to see.

It truly is a moral failure. They all end up in AA or dead.

[quote] I had no idea who Sean Storm was. I made the mistake of googling him. If you find what he does sexy then you are one sick mofo!

You need to look at his work from the 1990s and not anything after that.

Why do people keep going into any occupation, OP? It's a silly question. Here's one for you. Why do you keep watching porn? I think it's beyond hypocritical to judge people for their life choices, when you're contributing to them.

I saw a video of Sean Storm where hes being interviewed by the cameraman before the fucking. He's giggling and sharing about how he was molested through his whole childhood and loves sex because of what happened. It was obvious that his childhood trauma had totally screwed him up. I think he got gangbanged and bukkaked after the interview was over.

Sooooo.... THANKS, FOSTER CARE!

myeah.

R28. After what I saw of Sean Storm in that shit video, "I" am traumatized and don't want to see anything involving him. Besides, he's not that cute. There is a deadness/sadness in his eyes that is quite unsettling. So, no thanks.

The guys I wonder about are the Fraternity X and Sketchy Sex bottoms. How do you come to the realization that you want to take cock after cock, load after load, recorded on camera for all eternity? The money can't be that good, can it? How much do they get paid?

I'd bet 99 loads out of ten men they have a history of trauma

[quote]How do you come to the realization that you want to take cock after cock, load after load,

Every bottom that ever existed wants this.

Just seen on Scruff, on the profile of a married 38-year-old: "After 13 years of working in the corporate world, I cut the strings and am making a go at the adult entertainment industry."

He's on Twitter and JFF and "looking to build up a content library."

I think there are as many different motivations for this as there are guys doing it. You can't make generalizations about why.

Er No, R34. All bottoms are not sluts.

They probably think "I like fucking, why not get paid to do it?" If they are a sex addicts or promisuous - all the better. No hang-ups.

[quote]All bottoms are not sluts.

Sure Jan.

It's probably plays into the fantasy too. For sure they are going to get off that day, not going to be rejected last minute for example. Most likely with someone equally hot. And those things are planned out way in advance, so days of thinking about it beforehand.

R36's hole reporting for duty.

Most seem to be damaged from square one.

R20 That horrid link has now made me a firm believer in trigger warnings. Horrid!

R1 R2 R20 R42 WTF was that?! I didn’t know he’d moved into that kind of porn! Canceled!

I feel like it’s easy money, especially with only fans you can even be gay without being gay.

Too many porn stars are fucked up. I'd rather not look too deep into their personal lives. I remember watching this video with Jake Lyons and Michael Lucas. It had an interview portion at the beginning, Jake went on a tangent on how he was molested and was an underage male prostitute. Completely killed my boner. Of course, ugly Lucas still fucked him regardless. Wasn't shocked Lyons was mentally ill and ended up in jail.

Daddy issues happen to anyone, male or female.

Well, it’s a living!

R20, R43 - what is he doing in the video?

It looks like a fun career!

r16, yes creepy. Do they do pron?

[quote] The guys I wonder about are the Fraternity X and Sketchy Sex bottoms.

Masyn Thorne said on TikTok that he enjoyed doing videos with Fraternity X, but he said that it was hard to say the dialogue without laughing out loud. He said they ad-lib it.

Anyone know what happened to former gorgeous porn performer Alex Waters? Who is he? Where is he now?

They may try to leave their porn career days behind them, but someone will always find out and be happy to share the info.

R53 They cannot leave that porn career behind. That may have been true in the old days before the internet, but these days those pictures and videos are everywhere and it’s simply not possible to hide them.

I became pathetically obsessed with an obscure porn star and stalked him extensively on social media. Found out quite a bit about his past. In his case, it seemed to be a combination of self-destructive tendencies (he's a textbook case of Borderline Personality Disorder), addiction, a desire to be "famous", and probably also wanting to piss off his Catholic family.

Most sex workers have been sexually abused so theres that.

Sean Storm was cute when he started out, but he looks horrifying now. A real poster boy for why you shouldn't get into porn.

I’m actually surprised how many hot guys porn producers find to do porn.

There’s only a small percentage of blazing hot men in the world. A whole bunch do porn

R58 And then they fuck it all up with tattoos.

Is it the hot guys who have no acting talent? You'd think that, with as attractive as some of these men are, they could have great careers as actors if they had any talent, but I suppose they get far less rejections in the porn industry. If they have a nice body and big enough ass or dick, they can at least work steadily for 5 to 10 years if they play their cards right and take care of themselves. Even handsome faces seem to take a backseat to a nice body or big dick. It helps, but it's not a dealbreaker.

When you think about how Hollywood spits out equally attractive men and women after their 5 to 10 years of fame because they're no longer young and fuckable to some people, you get to thinking they might not be any better than the porn industry. There always seems to be a demand for hot daddy types in their 40's to 60's. There might be more career longevity in porn than in traditional Hollywood.

Good looking men with no talent can become salesmen, realtors, politicians, preachers, lawyers, CEOs etc. It's very easy for a goodlooking person to rise up if they are willing to put the effort too, they will get more second chances. It's just extreme vanity and laziness that they go into porn.

Sean scat alert at R20!💩💩

Sean Storm probably got involved in poop because he has bad self esteem due to his childhood abuse, he was told he was poop so that’s what he feels he deserves.

[Quote] It's just extreme vanity and laziness that they go into porn.

I disagree with the laziness part. Film shoots aren’t for the lazy. Plus you have to workout and eat right constantly to maintain that body. Plus all the escorting to make real money

R64...Wow, having to go to the gym, eat properly & having sex all day...now that's an exhausting day's labor. I bet these guys all dream of the day they can spend all day in a pleather recliner with a beer & a Yankees game. Now this is a true struggle.

Sean Storm got into poop because it pays the bills and he has no line.

Sex workers are survivalist sociopaths.

The shelf life isn't long and the life choices usually lead to a short life expectancy

Max Grand was in the business a long time (over a decade), never lost his looks, and was reportedly a very centered, well-liked individual. A rare example.

I’m thankful They choose to go into porn

When you have to literally shit on camera for food money, life's truly gone down the toilet.

What is a “new guy” OP?

Because OP,

[quote] I disagree with the laziness part. Film shoots aren’t for the lazy. Plus you have to workout and eat right constantly to maintain that body. Plus all the escorting to make real money

That's really not that difficult, working out and dieting is just a routine that sets in after a few days. Escorting may require more skills like socializing and being attentive to clients. But c'mon, these are not some courtesans or geishas where they are expected to be cultured, educated and entertainers. Old rich men just want a cute young thing to touch, there's not much effort required to get those types off.

I know people want to say "sex work is work" which is fair. But there's no certification, degree or license to become a prostitute or porn star. While teaching, law, medicine, business, nursing, firefighting, acting, singing, writing, etc. requires a use of real talent and skills. Even fashion models have to have talent to strike a pose and transform themselves in front of the camera. No matter how accepting people become of sex workers, they will just be regarded as low-skilled workers who are disposable no different than say a retail or fast food employee. But fast food and retail employees will still have more respect because they deal with way more bullshit and have a lot of stress an responsibilities for low wages. Prostitutes and porn stars just have to look good and fuck. Not that hard and people aren't going to respect that.

"Because they want to see me, ME, Matt Sanchez!"

R74, porn might not require much talent, but it certainly requires more talent than "fashion modeling". At least if you want it to look believable and hot and actually get the viewers off.

How many threads do we have here complaining about bad acting in porn, lack of chemistry between the models etc.? Leaving aside personal preferences with respect to looks, positions, kinks etc., some performances are perceived as good, while others are perceived as shitty. That shows there is *some* degree of talent/effort involved in making it work.

I don't think any amount of acting skills matter in porn. If the two guys are genuinely into each other then it will arousing. What effort does it involve to be attracted to someone? Men cannot fake it like women can. If the guys aren't into it, then the scene will just suck. A lot of vintage porn has shitty acting but a lot of the guys they found were actual gay and bi men. Not the "gay-for-pay" bullshit that's rampant today. Plus I find modern gay porn tries too hard and looks more fake. The directors, writers and videographers put more effort. The porn stars are just there to fuck on camera and the most effort is just getting it up and lasting long.

MODELING DOES NOT, I REPEAT, NOT REQUIRE ANY "TALENT"! It's THE most useless and obscenely overrated "profession" ever! Being blessed with that "je ne sais quoi" that makes people want to look at you is not "talent"!

Look, I'd agree with you that porn requires no talent if you hadn't brought up modeling as an example of something that does. That's just ridiculous.

R20 What a way to ruin a beautiful new pair of tighty whities.

R78 OK calm the fuck down.

R69. I knew Rene Granados in LA when we lived next door to each other in West Hollywood. The whole "Max Grand" persona was fake as fuck - He was a bit femme and he was lazy. Yes, he was in porn for over 10 years, but was really lucky. Good genes and porn wasn't as extreme as it is now. He'd spend his day at the coffee place next to Circus of Books. I knew him for like 5 years. Id love to know what he's up to now. There really aren't any Porn stars left in LA. Everyone with and iPhone can suck dick and bottom on camera

I stumbled on a porn video a while back that was basically a 30 something decent looking guy talking into the cam and saying "I hope you see this dad" then proceeds to go down on the ugliest old homeless guy missing teeth I have ever seen. So yeah, Daddy issues for sure.

Remember, you’re not dealing with the cream of the brainy crop so yes, porn requires work

[Quote] MODELING DOES NOT, I REPEAT, NOT REQUIRE ANY "TALENT"! It's THE most useless and obscenely overrated "profession" ever!

It does require something because every beautiful person can’t just become a model. Interesting that it takes something more than just being beautiful

[Quote] If the two guys are genuinely into each other then it will arousing.

How does that work with gay for pay? They aren’t really into each other. It look real though.

The director and how he cuts the scene has a huge impact

Just a few nights ago I watched the Sean Cody scene with Cameron and Joey; I don't know if Cameron is straight, bi, or gay, but Joey recently got married to a woman: in the scene, they very effectively portrayed being seriously into each other. It was incredibly hot.

They deserve every penny. The concept of having sex with someone you are not into is not something I can imagine. I am not saying I have high standards, I might have sex with trashy guy but just the fact that I want to do that means I am still into them. It would be like forcing myself to have sex with a woman, gross, I dont think any amount of money could get me to do it.

They’re just objects of our desire. They do a good service. In my late 30s and haven’t been laid in many years. Just too ugly. They keep me regular in masturbating to their content. They are just objects dear, if you don’t consider them human it will be for the best.

Good porn is created in editing. There is nothing hot about making porn. It is very hard work.

Where there is demand, there will be supply

I really wish people would stop saying gay for pay. There is no such thing. If you want to use the term bisexual, you can say he is ALSO bisexual, but guys doing gay porn are homosexual. These men are gay. If a man is placing (or taking) a cock in a man's mouth or ass, then both those men are gay. There are gay men who can perform sexually with women (without viagra).

The definition of homosexual: a person who is sexually attracted to people of their own sex.

If you were not sexually attracted (i.e. aroused) by a man, you could not perform with a man. Even viagra doesn't work without some attraction.

It is smart marketing by the porn industry. A large portion of the homosexual population fantasizes about having sex with straight men through trickery or seduction. I hate to burst your bubble, but that shit never happens. They have to want you to have sex with you and those men DON'T WANT YOU! It does not happen.

Those guys are getting paid for shit they'd be doing anyway.

You're wrong R91 and have no understanding of human sexuality.

R92 I know you want to hold onto that fantasy, but "straight" men don't have sex with gays. Sorry but that's life. Every married (straight presenting man) I have ever meant (and my friends have met) has wanted to suck my dick (whether they are a top or bottom). They're gay.

It's ok. There are lots of masculine straight presenting gay men. And why would you want someone who doesn't want you? There are only two options. Either he wants to have sex with you (a MAN) or he does not. Do you wanna rape someone? Do you want them not to want you? How low is your self esteem?

Enjoy the fantasy, but just know, it's not real.

100% straight men don't have sex with other men. The guys who do gay porn are either gay or bisexual; for the latter, it's probably a matter of the Kinsey scale: guys like Tommy Defendi or SC's Joey -- who sucked and bottomed with apparent enjoyment but then married women -- are probably a Kinsey 3.

R94 I am fine with the term "Bisexual" as long as everyone understands that these men are ALSO homosexual. You can't get around that. If men are voluntarily having sex with men (regardless of the circumstances) they are gay! And please stop with the top or bottom nonsense. While people have preferences, most gay men are at least versatile. Men who are attracted to other men will do whatever gets the two of them off.

Scientific or psychological testing aside, if you ask any straight woman whether she would want to marry a heterosexual or a bisexual man (all things being equal), and if she is honest, she is going to say she wants a heterosexual man. That is the true test of what is commonly understood. And so many married men are closeted because they know they would be dumped if their wives knew.

YES! I get it, everyone wants a heterosexual man. But heterosexual men only want women!

R95 What is this appeal that straight men have to gay men? Ugly Hanes underwear and shitty assholes wiped with toilet paper?

r96, straight men are "forbidden fruit" for gay men. Or, more accurately, most gay men are attracted to masculine men, and most straight men have an effortless masculinity that is attractive to us.

R97 Except in the Bay Area where I live. I work with all these guys who are effeminate as can be, and I always just kind of assume that they’re gay. Then one day I hear them say “my girlfriend…….” And it’s quite jarring.

It's not easy to get into straight porn as a straight man. It doesn't matter how muscular or good-looking they are. They have to be well-hung and last an incredibly long time. Straight porn tends to favor big dicks and busted faces on men over beauty and sexiness. The women are the main focus. Also, women get paid far more for straight porn. Gay porn pays more. A lot of gay-for-pay men seem to either bottom or take viagra. There's plenty of straight guys who will make good money just watching straight porn while some old ugly queen jacks them off. I agree a lot of g4p are probably more bisexual with a heavy preference for women. But money is the ultimate aphrodisiac and some people will do anything for money.

[quote]Why do so many new guys keep going into porn?

Have you seen the rents in NYC?

[quote] They have to be well-hung and last an incredibly long time. ... A lot of gay-for-pay men seem to bottom

Even as a gay man, this mystifies me, whether the bottom in porn is gay or g4p: how can they take dick for so long like that?

I'm a bottom more in my imagination than in actual practice; when I'm with a guy, I can last getting fucked for maybe 2-3 minutes max and then I have to stop.

Out of curiosity, I timed some clips where there are unedited moments that last for 5 minutes or more of the bottom just getting jackhammered by a big dicked top. It's astonishing to me. Is it drugs? Or are they just naturally talented at getting fucked?

[quote]Is it drugs?

Are you offering?

R96 I agree with everything you said (which is why I have no interest in men who present straight). Because they are in high demand, they tend to think gay men are desperate (gay men are the pickiest but if he's hot, gays will tolerate shit most women would not). Many "straight presenting" men do not properly wipe their assholes. Their wives are usually not blowing them anymore so there is no one to tell him to wash his ass! But it is deeper than that.

Regardless of how gay-friendly your upbringing is, at some point, if you have any goals (unless you are a straight White man in America), you are going to be told something by some man that something is wrong with you. Many gay men spend their entire lives seeking the approval of "straight" men. They don't understand that going down on a "straight presenting" man is not gonna give you the self esteem you are seeking. It comes from inside. You have to trust that it is ok to be a homosexual and you don't need anyone's approval. Sadly many gay men don't love themselves enough.

R97 I partially agree with you. Yes, most gay men want to have sex with a masculine man, but certainly not all straight men are masculine as R98 points out.

It is both masculine combined with "straight" that so many gay men crave. To prove this, think about all the hot "straight" men DL rants and raves over until they find out he was caught sucking dick (or otherwise comes out). Then all of a sudden, he is NOT as hot.

Gays want to feel like they are with a straight man. It is sad but true. Porn studios are well aware of that and play into it.

R99 Viagra will not sustain you in an ass if the top is not turned on by the bottom. These men are homosexuals - whatever else they may or may not ALSO be.

I saw Markus Kage on a podcast about a year ago and he was having a conversation with a gay man, who was trying to understand how he could claim to be "straight" and have sex with men on camera. Kage's answer was Trimax, the injectable drug that you shoot into your dick. He said he could never get hard without it, because gay sex is not appealing to him. In fact, he said he HATES having sex with men and would just do straight porn if it paid better. He said the drug is rampant in studio porn because it keeps you rock hard for hours which saves time on set, where in the past, everyone would have to sit and wait for the straight guys to get hard to keep shooting.

I hated every minute of that conversation. I was so bummed out to hear him say what he said, going on and on about how miserable he is on gay porn sets, fucking men! I assumed he was bi. I can't watch his scenes anymore and pass right by them.

The podcaster was some canadian author, who has since shut down his podcast and deleted many of his podcasts from youtube including the one with Kage.

R26 I don’t want my mother to see me fucking twinks, but I fuck them anyway.

R86, the interesting thing about SeanCody’s Joey is that he filmed for them for several years, dipped his toe into escorting band YouTubing, and then completely sought to erase his gay porn past. He even went so far as to change his name a few years before getting married, Unfortunately, the state of California requires you to place a public announcement when you change your name, so the link between his real name (Ian Tevyaw) and current name isn’t completely severed.

Oh, and regarding the comment about Nate Grime’s asshole: He got his start doing amateur fishing vids on XTube in the early 2010’s. It’s no wonder his hole is demolished.

Fisting is not for me, but I respect a man's right to put anything he wants in his butt.

[quote]Fisting is not for me, but I respect a man's right to put anything he wants in his butt.

---Emily Dickinson

I believe in bisexuals. But I also believe that money is a great motivator. People do things, every single day, that they would not normally do if money wasn't part of the equation. And then there's prison sex. Sexuality is complicated. I'm not sure why some people are determined to put everyone into a box because of their own limited world view.

R109 Sweetie we are talking about straight men, not bisexuals. Those are very different things. And bisexuals by definition means they are ALSO homosexuals (according to the definition of the word). Try to keep up.

And for the record "prison sex" that is not consensual is rape. It's not that complicated. You're trying to hold on to a fantasy that somehow that straight guys can be tricked into wanting you. They don't.

I'm not trying to hold on to any fantasy. Quite frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what anyone calls themselves. Why would I or anyone else care that much if some Midwestern farm boy says he's straight while he's sucking dick. You sound really angry when you talk about this stuff. It's really not that deep, but you carry on.

A bisexual is not a homosexual. Most people use Cambridge's first definition of homosexual:

"a person who is sexually attracted to people of the same sex and not to people of the opposite sex"

and Cambridge's definition of bisexual:

"sexually attracted to both men and women"

However, I do agree that so-called straight guys who enjoy sex with men and women are bisexual. Real straight men are as repulsed by sex with men as a real gay men are repulsed by sex with women.

When/Because their professional bodybuilder or gym trainer careers stall...?!

Here's what's interesting... Men who have sex with Trannys are not gay or bisexual! They aren't into any male characteristics! They like femininity but dicks don't repel them! A dick is just a giant clitoris!

[quote]Getting paid X $ for a 12 minute sex scene works out to a tidy sum per minute of screen time and so it can be justified in the way that a faded starlet whose career is nosediving accepts a tidy sum to fly to Dubai for a weekend and a half hour of "face time" with some sheikh.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Quote]Men who have sex with Trannys are not gay or bisexual! They aren't into any male characteristics! They like femininity but dicks don't repel them! A dick is just a giant clitoris!

That is so not true! You Tranny's are delusional. Do you think straight presenting men don't see you as just a dude in a dress? 😂 You are not a woman and the men pursuing you are not straight. Men interested in trannies get to be gay "guilt free." You are the one being made a fool of. There are plenty (and I do mean PLENTY) of big ugly women in the world wearing too much make up! They don't need to pursue someone like you. But they don't want women. They like your cock! They want a man in a dress. Nobody wants a fake woman!

I will let Chris Meloni explain it to you below in an episode of POSE on FX!

R116 You're delusional. You just can't accept that straight males aren't into you. You're gross to them. Disgusting and gross.

[Quote]You sound really angry when you talk about this stuff. It's really not that deep

R11 / R112 Apparently it is very deep - FOR YOU! Accusing me of being angry is just a way from you to reject the truth and resort to fantasyland. Your vigorously fighting the term "homosexual" really says a lot about you and it aint pretty. Someone did a real number on you. Did you grow up in the 1950s?

As I have stated several times, I'm fine with you calling yourself bisexual, provided that you understand that you are ALSO a homosexual. You can't get to bisexual without also being homosexual. You like your own gender. It is cut and dry. You can't get around that. It is the self-hate in you that will not allow you to say the word and acknowledge that is what you are.

Let's say it together: "I am a homosexual."

It's ok. Really, it is. There is nothing wrong with being a homosexual. That in and of itself doesn't make you any less of a man. Failing to acknowledge that (at least to yourself) does.

I was kinda shocked by how many middle aged guys took the plunge and started onlyfans accounts during the pandemic. Some becsuse they lost their jobs, but some were just doing it because suddenly there was a platform that was easy and accessible. And I watched a lot of tiktokers go from posting tiktok thirst traps to fucking on onlyfans in real time. It was so common to try to turn your 100,000 TikTok followers into paid onlyfans subscribers that they have a joking name for it. They call themselves “accountants”.

I followed the HOTTEST guy on tiktok and saw him evolve from posting gym selfies and telling people he didn’t have an onlyfans and to stop asking, to having an onlyfans with about 5 videos, then deleting them all and closing his account in like 6 months!

I think a lot of people are going to regret the homemade porn they’re posting in a couple of years. They’re not working for studios, they’re not making careers out of it. It’s hobby porn. And it’s gonna fuck up their job prospects.

R117 You just told on yourself! 😂😂😂 Stop trying to project on me what YOU WANT! I don't care what a straight man wants. That's you! You are the one who thinks they want you. Can you even read?

[quote]It's not easy to get into straight porn as a straight man. It doesn't matter how muscular or good-looking they are. They have to be well-hung

That bar is even HIGHER for gay porn Dear.

[quote]I really wish people would stop saying gay for pay. There is no such thing. If you want to use the term bisexual, you can say he is ALSO bisexual, but guys doing gay porn are homosexual. These men are gay. If a man is placing (or taking) a cock in a man's mouth or ass, then both those men are gay. There are gay men who can perform sexually with women (without viagra).

An actual straight guy getting a blow job from a "straight guy", R91.

R121 I don't know. I really don't see monster-sized dicks in gay porn to the extent of straight porn. Straight men really get off on that big dick fantasy and plowing women's brains out. Gay porn wants men who are the full package of looks, sexiness, physique and endowment. A hideous-looking man with a huge dick isn't as arousing as a gorgeous man with an average dick.

[quote]I really don't see monster-sized dicks in gay porn to the extent of straight porn.

You dont watch much porn do you?

R124 Why do you say that like it's a bad thing? I do watch gay porn. But I'm aroused by face, body and chemistry. Sometimes, they are hung, sometimes not. I just noticed that in straight porn, the guys are usually uglier but almost always hung. I see more diversity of dick sizes in gay porn. That's all.

Your an anomaly R125. Gay porn is full of big dick. You really cant get hired with a small or average one. Almost every gay porn star has a larger than average cock. The ones with huge ones become stars. Big dick sells. That's what they want even if you don't look for that yourself.

R126 is right! Gay porn universally requires bigger than average dicks (for both the top and the bottom since most gay men are versatile). It is FANTASY and most gay men fantasize about having a partner with a big dick. If you wanna be a gay pornstar, you better look good AND have a big dick! Even the gay "daddy" stars are usually handsome, not old and have excellent bodies with big dicks!

While, of course, big dicks are important in straight porn, that is not always a requirement and there is a wider variety of ages and body types of the men. lots of older men do straight porn. This is part of the reason that there are fewer straight male pornstars. The women are beautiful and they are the stars!

The only ones that universally get away with small dicks in gay porn are Asian twinks and they are almost always SUBMISSIVE total bottoms. Yeah, it is pretty racist, but that is how Asians are typically portrayed in gay porn in the West.

This was a fine thread until someone brought their gay for pay mental illness into it.

R128 People need to stop using the term G4P altogether. Not only is it "not a thing" but it doesn't matter. Porn is fantasy. Whether they or male or female (gay or straight), it's their job to follow the script and fuck whoever the studio puts in front of them in the required manner and for the required amount of time. We know that many do poppers and viagra (and who knows what else) even when fucking their sexual preference. Everyone doing commercial porn is doing it to get paid. THEY ALL DO IT FOR PAY!

Many become drug dependent, suffering from STIs, forced out of the business when they lose their looks or get old, depressed and even suicidal.

A better question: is it worth it mentally and physically to rent your body out?

There'd be a lot less guys going into gay porn if gays weren't so obsessed with them and desperately throw money at them. The fact there's a huge celebrity culture of porn stars where there's gossip and cyberstalking says a lot. A no-talent himbo who wants money and fifteen minutes of fame will do porn because they get worshipped by queens who pay big bucks to have them as escorts. It feeds their narcissism.

The ones with an IQ just do some videos for some cash and leave asap and get real jobs.

[quote]Almost every gay porn star has a larger than average cock.

Yes, but I’ve also seen a lot of gay porn stars who are really short, tiny. They have big dicks, but they just look so much bigger because the guys are actually really small. Anyone ever see Jeff Stryker in person? He’s a wee little man.

I don’t know if this is universally true, because some of those guys seem huge, but in the 90s, when porn stars toured gay bars like drag queens do now, everyone I saw was so small it was surprising. And there were bars where they’d all go to strip and dance and some of them must have been under 5’5” because standing on top of the bar, they would hit the ceiling otherwise.

[quote]The only ones that universally get away with small dicks in gay porn are Asian twinks and they are almost always SUBMISSIVE total bottoms. Yeah, it is pretty racist, but that is how Asians are typically portrayed in gay porn in the West.

So true. I love this one obscure porn actor, a twinky white-passing Latino. He appeared in circa a dozen scenes/films and always bottomed, except in that one video where his scene partner was an Asian guy. They were about the same height, but the cock on "my" guy was about double the size of the Asian's (not saying who it is lol). And I'd say his cock is a nice size, but not monstrous by any means.

I think the Asian actually tops quite a lot on his Onlyfans, but in studio porn he was usually cast as the bottom.

I remember meeting Gay Porn Star, Damon Wolf who was in a number of Falcon videos. I was really surprised hot short he was. He was in The Chosen with Derek Cameron and I meet them at a club in Vegas doing a promo thing. They are both so fucking short. Both big bottoms too. Damon Wolf aka Mike Reem works in home depart merchandising at Neiman Marcus in Vegas. He was born and raised in Vegas . I ran in to him again at the Fashion Show Mall - Hes so fucking SMALL

[quote]They may try to leave their porn career days behind them, but someone will always find out and be happy to share the info.

[quote]They cannot leave that porn career behind. That may have been true in the old days before the internet, but these days those pictures and videos are everywhere and it’s simply not possible to hide them.

So what? Do ex-porn actors ease into high profile political appointments as ambassadors? Or assume elected office? Or serve as figureheads for national conservative (or liberal for that matter) causes? Or deliver keynote addresses for billionaire CEOs?

What successful and highly vetted professions and occupations do you think are imperilled by the vids nicked from Triple Penetration Sloppy Hole Cumdump Hotel Orgy, or Friday Is for Felching?

People go into porn because the start-up costs and educational and occupational requirements are as low as the floor of that felching film set is sticky, not because they've set aside a high profile diplomatic and university professorship to do it

Nate Grimes seems as though he would shove almost anything up his hole.

I followed Montreal based Jessy Karson for many years. Some piss & scat, HIV+, pig. Used to read his blogs. His career seems to have wound down. A few years ago he seemed destitute but also socially and financially supported enough through Canadian welfare, not to be circling the drain. That might be the difference for a lot of sex workers. Americans are in for a hard life if they are permanently damaged and can't get decent normal jobs. At least in more socialized countries they can have basic food, shelter, and health care guaranteed.

Nate Grimes probably could fit Ceres up his asshole now.lol

What a silly OP. Desperate people do desperate things. News at 11.

There's a new porn actor named "Leon King" who is getting a somewhat "big" push.

Everyone is doing porn on their own phones and sharing on the apps. It’s common now. Op is out of touch.

I’d love to see a website of “Where are they now.” They can’t all be dead from an overdose.

[quote]I remember seeing one dude getting fisted by Cutler X and his ass was literally bleeding at the end of the scene.

An iconic scene with Teddy Bryce, one of the hottest fisting scenes ever.

As for your question, sex work is as old as civilisation, and there is no end to horny young blood streaming into the big cities. Just be glad for sites like OnlyFans where the content creator is now calling the shots instead of sleazy exploitative producers.

One source is excess Mormon males from polygamous "families" in the US Southwest and northern Mexico.

By the age of 16 or so all but a few males are surplus to requirements and so, abandoned. Some of 'em end up hustling and in porn.

I go into Doctor School AND porn!

I admit to being a bit of a sadist, I quite enjoy watching hot guys (straight or otherwise) struggle to take cock. Or authentically enjoying it. (And if the 'acting' is good enough to fool me, then that's always fine too!) That authenticity is what is missing from most porn.

I do wish porn wasn't stigmatized at all, to increase the availability of fresh meat - and also to have healthier participants. It would be nice if it was 'just something that everyone tries' instead of a scarlet letter that many desperate/damaged people are led into.

Last I saw of Sean Storm he looked like he was in the end stages of AIDS. He was wasted away to nothing and still letting men bareback him.

And OMG, when I did a search to look for a more current photo of him there are photos of him in Google image search covered in feces. I knew he was a piss drinker but I had no idea he was a scat freak.

There's also a photo at google image of him with a big wad of shit in his mouth.

[quote]What successful and highly vetted professions and occupations do you think are imperilled by the vids nicked from Triple Penetration Sloppy Hole Cumdump Hotel Orgy, or Friday Is for Felching?

Quite a few porn actors seem to dream of breaking into mainstream acting/entertainment. Lane Rogers aka Blake Mitchell is not the only one ... Former Helix twink Luke Allen, for instance, used to post a lot about auditioning, and small roles he got cast in (mostly extra work I'm guessing). And when I last googled my favorite ex porn actor, I found his profile on backstage.com, which is apparently a popular "talent database" used by the likes of Netflix, Disney, and HBO (or so they claim).

Those guys might look to people like Kim K. or that chick from Euphoria, and think being known from porn will help them make it in Hollywood, but I doubt mainstream America is ready for a GAY porn performer turned actor/celebrity ...

[Quote] I doubt mainstream America is ready for a GAY porn performer turned actor/celebrity ...

And yet in the 1970s...

Most OnlyFans content is shit with no variation in camera angles or anything. Just one continuous shot from far away. Who needs to pay to see that?

r136 Blast from the past! He was like the original/blue print for the gay to bi pipeline. He got real involved in the German 'queer' sex scene and went off the deep end. It seems like once you have pissed, fisted and fried your sexual sinapsis pussy is the next thing for a fresh sexual thrill. Through him I found Peto coast who is infinitely sexier and seems to be the most 'normal' of all the pornstars I have come across.

Jessy did bi porn, fucking pussies? Where could I see that? For a studio? Amateur?

Could you link to Jessy’s blog posts, please r136?

Who cares? Why are gays so invested in the lives of porn people? Way more than straights. It's REALLY weird and rooted in something that I can't figure out. I get fantasy but this is damn near psychosis.

I mean...video obituaries of dead porn guys set to sad instrumental music.

Celebrities are the empty vessels into which people put their hopes and dreams.

r154, a theory: back in the 80s and 90s, gay porn was one of the few media representations of homosexuals, and so, in addition to getting us off, it spoke to us in a different way than str8 porn did for str8 men. We hero-worshipped gay porn stars because they represented a fantasized ideal in much the same way that matinee idols did for str8 women, plus they gave voice to our stories in a way that mainstream cinema and TV did not. That so many of these men died young would undoubtedly have an effect on the audience.

It's likely still the case today: yes, there's been a proliferation of mainstream media portrayal of gay men, but gay porn still provides a fantasy that gay men respond to, particularly when those mainstream media representations are often stereotypical cartoons. Believe it or not, I see a wider variety of gay male types in gay porn than I do in mainstream media, which is dominated by drag and flamboyant queens.

If this is a serious question, OP, then the answer is low self-esteem. I know it sounds overly simple. But that's what it is. At the root of any reason someone debases themselves in this way, or any other, is low self-esteem and low self-worth.

[quote] I’d love to see a website of “Where are they now.” They can’t all be dead from an overdose.

Well, half of them are in prison for spousal abuse, and it’s harder to OD there…

Why are so many of these guys right-wingers too? You look up so many of the guys you used to jack off to, and they either dead, drugged out, or far-right.

Because R159, they were always fucked up, they just went from being fucked up one way to being fucked up in another.

Poor people often vote against their own interests, if they vote at all.

Republicans tend to fall in one of two categories:

(1) Selfish to the point of being Sociopathic and/or

(2) Mentally deficient and easily manipulated.

A lot of people in porn are in the second category.

There is MUCH more money to be made behind the camera!

Are they though?

They don't stay new for long.

They are lazy and not bright and are impressed with "easy" money.

It won't be so easy when they are infected with multiple diseases, drugged out and later can't get a respectable job because of a "no hoes" clause in the hiring contract.

R166 As I say, can’t get a real job. Or they’re too hot for one, lol.

R167 True, but short sighted. As DL is quickly to remind patrons, nobody is hot forever. What then? lol

R168 The ass doesn’t even have to be great, it just has to work. LOL

{quote} they very effectively portrayed being seriously into each other.

We’ll, that’s one way to put it.

I have this theory about the LA/SoCal gay porn scene. It might be total nonsense, but here it is.

In LA and Orange County, there seems to be a whole network of people at the outskirts of the entertainment industry and „club promoters“ who double as recruiters for both gay porn studios and chickenhawks like Bryan Singer. Not sure if it's still the case, but about a decade ago, all the barely legal gay twinks from the area seemed to go to 18+ clubs/events like TigerHeat or WTF Fridays. I think what happens/used to happen there is that the cute ones are „befriended“ by these promoter types, and get invited to private parties hosted by rich industry bigwigs like Singer. Many probably dream of breaking into acting and think hanging out/sleeping with someone like Singer will give them a leg up, but they never become more than fuck toys, if they even get to meet him at all. Before they know it, they're doing porn for the cool new „friends“ they got introduced to at those parties, have ruined their prospects of ever having a normal life, let alone a career in mainstream Hollywood, and are hooked on drugs.

Singer is confirmed to have ties to Helix Studios, but based on the connections between people I've discovered, other porn studios seem to benefit from that network as well. I think what happens is that Helix snaps up boys who fit a certain mold (white or light-skinned latino, cute in a basic sort of way, VERY young and wholesome/clean-cut looking ...), while those who don't end up at other studios.

My theory is based on 1. extensive stalking of a bunch of porn actors on social media (yes, I'm pathetic), and 2. an interview with former Helix model Liam Riley. He admitted to having attended Singer's parties, and also said something to the effect of, if you go to TigerHeat as a cute young twink, you'll get approached by people from the gay porn industry.

I want to add to my comment in R171 that I've stalked this one former gay porn actor in particular. I'd rather not mention his name because frankly, it's creepy how much I know about him. In any case, he seems like the perfect example of a kid who could easily have fallen prey to that predatory network I described in R171. A very very messed up guy from a severely dysfunctional background. Gives off a vibe that screams ABUSE VICTIM. Label queen, obsessed with everything "Hollywood". And yes, I'm afraid that "lazy, not bright and impressed with easy money" describes him to a T.

Anyway, in his late teens, this guy was friends with a slightly older club promoter who always hung around the Helix models, even got invited to the "Helix headquarters", and seems to have ties to people who are rumoured to have worked as "recruiters" for Bryan Singer (Wayne Castro, Tommy Johnson). The porn actor has never worked for Helix, but there are photos of him partying with a bunch of Helix models. I'd be VERY surprised if he's never been to one of Singer's parties ... and if that promoter friend wasn't the one who introduced this insecure, impressionable kid to the idea of becoming a "star" by showing him what "glamourous" lives his friends at Helix lead...his look didn't fit the Helix brand though, so he ended up at other (probably even shittier) studios.

I don't buy the "most all of them were sexually abused as children" theory. I believe most guys who get into porn are simply exhibitionists and what better way to practice your kink ,without getting arrested or beaten up, than having sex in front of a camera crew and ultimately millions of people watching at home? This is one way I believe porn is beneficial to humanity. If it keeps one person from going out and doing something that could cause some innocent person mental anguish from being witness to it, then it's all good.

Now regarding Nate Grimes. What I want to know is how long has he suffered from erectile dysfunction? He's been wearing this cock cage over his flaccid penis that never gets hard during his scenes for a good while. He never takes the cage off, and never achieves orgasm when he's wearing that thing. I hope it's only temporary because I find him mega adorable and would hate to think the poor boy is unable to enjoy one of life's greatest pleasures any longer.