Because the first thread wasn't enough.
Julia on HBO Max - More French Cooking
|by Anonymous||reply 74||December 2, 2023 5:47 AM|
Continuing the thread about Betty Friedan being at the fundraiser. These galas always pride themselves on inviting the cool kids, it wouldn't be surprising to find celebrities otherwise unrelated to public broadcasting.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||May 17, 2022 4:19 PM|
I still need Fran Kranz in me quite deeply.
Just thought you'd all want to know.
The Fran Kranz Addict
|by Anonymous||reply 2||May 17, 2022 4:51 PM|
Is anybody planning on giving her cookbooks a try?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||May 17, 2022 5:10 PM|
r3, my copy of Mastering the Art is in pieces. Literally. I've used it so often, the spine split in two places, and the book is in three chunks. My copy of the French Chef Cookbook is old and its pages brown (it's a regular paperback).
|by Anonymous||reply 4||May 17, 2022 5:15 PM|
I do like the fact you can get Mastering in paperback form. I love to be able to get The Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking in paperback.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||May 17, 2022 5:21 PM|
I've never liked perfect-bound cookbooks, they always fall apart with use, and you can never keep them open while cooking. My sweet Jamie has this problem in spades.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||May 17, 2022 5:25 PM|
That's what mine looks like, r6, only it's even more torn apart.
My copy of Marcella's original Classic Italian Cookbook didn't get as destroyed, though the spine tore away from the front board. I bought Essentials of Italian Cooking much later, but I haven't used it as frequently, and except for a couple of page spills, it's in perfect condition.
I believe there are UK paperback versions of the original two books, r5, and also of Essentials of Italian Cooking.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||May 17, 2022 5:46 PM|
If they needed to use Betty Friedan, they should have had her on the reading talk show. It would have been more entertaining for the pompous guy to go head to head with her.
And there’s no way that two black people could kiss in the lobby of NYC’s whitest establishment.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||May 17, 2022 10:33 PM|
I’m going to a screening of an episode of Julia next week. After it there will be a live Q&A with Sarah Lancashire, David Hyde Pierce, Fran Kranz, Fiona Glascott, Brittany Bradford, showrunner/executive producer Chris Keyser and creator/executive producer Daniel Goldfarb. Jealous, bitches?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||May 17, 2022 10:40 PM|
R9, please tell Sarah Lancashire that Broadway needs her. Suggest a revival of Mame. Angela Lansbury can play Mother Burnside.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||May 17, 2022 10:43 PM|
With Bebe Neuwirth as Vera Charles.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||May 17, 2022 11:56 PM|
I'm finally getting around to watching this and I'm enjoying it, Sarah Lancashire and David Hyde Pierce play Julia and Pete like a randy American version of Keeping Up Appearances.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||May 21, 2022 2:54 AM|
R12 Sorry I meant Paul I don't know where Pete came from.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||May 21, 2022 3:28 AM|
They screened the season finale in NYC tonight. It looked good on a big screen. Avis’ line “I’m just getting started” still makes no fucking sense. The Q&A afterward was OK, none of the actors and showrunners said anything new. After that there was a reception with an open bar, an omelette chef, beef bourguignon and coq au vin. Nice touch.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||May 24, 2022 4:20 AM|
The Fred Rogers actor had the voice down, but didn't look like him. It reminded me of watching something from the 1970s when Rich Little pops up playing someone famous.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||May 24, 2022 4:27 AM|
Fran Kranz needs an Emmy for this.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||May 24, 2022 4:28 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 17||May 24, 2022 4:32 AM|
It might not have been surprising to find Betty Friedan at a public broadcasting dinner in 1962 but the Corporation for Public Broadcasting AKA PBS wasn't created until 1967.
Goldfarb compared the liberties taken to those in Amadeus. The problem with that is that no one who knew Mozart is alive today.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||May 24, 2022 5:25 AM|
Yet another role where I can see Judith Light "acting."
|by Anonymous||reply 19||May 24, 2022 5:30 AM|
Sarah as Mame, June Diane Raphael as Vera.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||May 24, 2022 5:32 AM|
Sarah as Sally.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||May 24, 2022 5:37 AM|
I really enjoyed this show.
Julia Child brought a lot of people joy
|by Anonymous||reply 22||May 24, 2022 8:16 AM|
The only drawback of the series is Julia is too maudlin too often. There are too many “Oh, Paul” moments. I’m not saying that Julia didn’t have her down days, but this series makes her manic depressive.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||May 24, 2022 12:38 PM|
I love the series and I like the characters, even the ones I hate. But, I do not like some of the liberties taken with the history as is known. For instance I love Brittany Bradford as Alice, but I was disappointed to discover there was no Alice. There was a female producer but she was white. Being a white woman working in tv at that time, she faced major discrimination herself, but evidently that wasn't enough for the makers of this show. If this work was purely a work of fiction I would have no problem with the character. I think both the character and actress are great, I just don't care for inserting a clearly fictional person into a historical piece. Basically all the non-black characters are based on real people and seem to follow their established story fairly faithfully. I'm not black, but that just seems offensive.
Paul Child's story is the interesting one to see how the writers write it. I can't find much about his first love affair, apparently he lived with the mother of one of his students for ten years but they didn't marry. I'm guessing the woman he talked to at the beach wasn't his child but his former lover's child who was is student? But, they didn't make that clear. Anyway, there were rumors of Paul's homosexual tendencies being the real reason he left the state department. It seemed like the show was going to go there several times but never did. They will have to be careful because they can't suggest the marriage was a bearding situation because it is known how insanely in love they were with each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||May 24, 2022 4:12 PM|
I thought the woman he was talking to at the beach was his sister. Wasn’t there a family reference at some point?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||May 24, 2022 5:10 PM|
R25 after looking it up on Google nobody knows who she is supposed to be. I have to rewatch but I think she said she was happy he found Julia after “mom died.” Which leads me to think she was the student whose mother it has been reported elsewhere that Paul had a ten year affair with, before meeting and marrying Julia.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||May 24, 2022 6:18 PM|
Jesus fucking Christ. Enough with the Alice shit. We get it. It's been said seven fucking million fucking times. There can be no more fresh or new things to say about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||May 24, 2022 6:41 PM|
OP- MORE French cooking?
I prefer Italian
|by Anonymous||reply 28||May 24, 2022 7:11 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 29||May 24, 2022 8:34 PM|
R27 Sorry was that in the first thread? I haven't read it.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||May 24, 2022 10:10 PM|
Forgot to mention one interesting thing and one funny thing that was brought up at last night’s Q&A. The interesting thing was Daniel Goldfarb saying that Season 1 was originally supposed to span three years, with the Season 1 finale ending with Julia winning the first Emmy Award for public television. That obviously didn’t happen. And the funny thing was Sarah Lancashire saying to Goldfarb “So is it in Episode 5 or Episode 6 where Julia finds a dead body in the cupboard?”
R27, shut the fuck up. The Alice anachronism is brought up a lot because a lot of people watching the show have been deceived into thinking WGBH actually had a black woman in power on one of their shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||May 24, 2022 11:02 PM|
R31 Listen here bitch, I wasn't in the last thread and it hasn't been brought up a lot in this thread. so I don't know where you are talking about it being brought up a lot. And, as I said I like the character and actress, I just don't like a completely fictional character to be plopped in a biopic.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||May 24, 2022 11:14 PM|
You are just a bunch of old, nellie, fat, racist cunts.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||May 24, 2022 11:15 PM|
R32, your post was actually directed at R27. Who is a total bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||May 25, 2022 1:28 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 35||May 25, 2022 1:33 AM|
[quote]The Alice anachronism is brought up a lot because a lot of people watching the show have been deceived into thinking WGBH actually had a black woman in power on one of their shows.
so they're not racists, just stupid, dumb as rocks morons? we got it
|by Anonymous||reply 36||May 25, 2022 2:50 AM|
R36, your lack of capitalization and punctuation skills are so very telling.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||May 25, 2022 4:04 AM|
Rewriting history to make black people apart of events they were not is moronic. And is untruthful.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||May 25, 2022 6:02 AM|
So is your lack of SVA skills, r37.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||May 25, 2022 6:30 AM|
What the fuck does THAT mean, R39?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||May 25, 2022 3:54 PM|
r40 SVA = Subject Verb Agreement
|by Anonymous||reply 41||May 25, 2022 4:50 PM|
So I guess a way to address the extremely deceitful insertion of a black woman into a central position of power at WGBH next season could be to bring on another woman to co-produce The French Chef (the head of WGBH mentioned this). This woman might actually say at some point, in perhaps a subtle way, “What the fuck.” But nah, Goldfarb and Keyser would be too chicken shit to let that happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||May 25, 2022 8:50 PM|
Thank god for Alice.
At least I get a fucking break from the klangrannies
|by Anonymous||reply 43||May 25, 2022 10:07 PM|
I'm surprised this ended up on HBO other than the occasional "Fuck" it isn't very explicit. This would've been perfect as part of WGBH's Masterpiece on PBS.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||May 25, 2022 10:09 PM|
Looks like Season 2 is underway in France and Stockard Channing is either a regular or a guest star.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||September 22, 2022 2:47 AM|
Rachel Bloom is playing the character mentioned in the season finale-she’s brought in to “assist” Julia with the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||September 22, 2022 2:49 AM|
Our favorite anachronism known as Alice will be producing a show at WGBH about “women’s issues” in Season 2. Someone who played an audience member just told me this at Thanksgiving dinner (right before the way too dry turkey was served).
|by Anonymous||reply 47||November 24, 2022 10:50 PM|
Isabella Rosselini just did an Insta story where she showed off some eclairs which seemed to be handed out on the last day of shooting on S2. I assume she goes to Boston with Julia and hubby after they visit her in France.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||December 18, 2022 8:01 PM|
Where's the episode where Julia and Lenny Bruce rape Daniel Goldfarb with a cattle prod? I mean, it could happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||December 18, 2022 8:41 PM|
Anyone watch the first episode of season 2? So glad it's back.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||November 17, 2023 3:53 AM|
Stockard Channing looks like Madame of Wayland and Madame fame.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||November 19, 2023 4:11 AM|
I was shocked at Stockard's face and voice. It just proves you should wait until you're actually dead to undergo the embalming process.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||November 19, 2023 5:45 AM|
The first three episodes of season 2 were very good. Bebe is such a delight.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||November 19, 2023 6:12 PM|
The walking anachronism that is Alice continues to grate. The actress isn’t even pretty or charming, i love Adriane Lennox as her mother, though. I’m liking Rachel Bloom as the new producer.
And what about Nassim Lyes as Sam? I’d like to lyes with HIM. Very hot French/Algerian piece of ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||November 19, 2023 10:19 PM|
Love this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||November 19, 2023 10:26 PM|
Jesus: Stockard Channing.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||November 20, 2023 1:52 AM|
The actress who plays Alice was very good in the latest episode of The Gilded Age.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||November 21, 2023 3:05 AM|
I so want to love the series but I thought E1 was not really very good. I mean, what was it about? For a season opener it didn't really establish the arc of anything except a possible romance for Bebe. The arguing between Julia and Simka seemed especially silly and trivial. Paul and Simka's husband's conversations??? Who cares? All of those TV producers - are we supposed to think they're all idiots? Even Alice seemed like she didn't know what she was doing. Blanche Knopf is so one note. And poor Sarah Lancashire, what a waste of a brilliant actress! Give her something to play, please, other than mooning over a fish pie
I love all the actors but they deserve better dialogue and story lines. Hoping it gets better....
|by Anonymous||reply 58||November 21, 2023 3:18 AM|
and is there a new season?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||November 21, 2023 3:36 AM|
[quote]The walking anachronism that is Alice continues to grate. The actress isn’t even pretty or charming, i love Adriane Lennox as her mother, though.
Yes, the actress who plays Alice's mother has stood out in a small role and made it memorable.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||November 21, 2023 3:38 AM|
The casting of the Jacques Brel role was off in every possible way.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||November 21, 2023 9:15 AM|
This show reminds me of Daniel Goldfarb's other production,"The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel," in which great care is devoted to authentic costumes and set design but everything else is anachronistic.
It's hard to tell when Season 2 is set. Simca Beck gifted Julia the land for her house in 1963. The second season of The French Chef was in 1964. Civil rights was a huge issue in that era but it's completely missing from the show in favor of Vietnam. The Sea Bass en Croute that heralds the beginning of Nouvelle Cuisine wasn't introduced until the 70s.
Judith Jones has a flirtation with Jacques Brel because, hey, it could have happened. Russ Monash, who hates this show with every fiber of his being, is casually dosed with LSD at a discussion of Vietnam led by a Black Harvard professor, one of two or three back then, who curiously omits any mention of race in his critique of the war.
Trying to imagine a woman executive in the 60s at WGBH announcing "I have to pee" to leave a meeting when a personal question is asked. At another point, she tells the group of men she works with to grow up. In reality, she would have been booted for that comment
Shows that omit how bad things were for Blacks, women and gays in the interest of representation do no one any favors.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||November 23, 2023 11:46 AM|
Russ Monash hating this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||November 23, 2023 1:45 PM|
I felt the Paris episode had the show back on footing. I found myself quite restless in the first and second episodes. I'm not quite sure why everybody was in Paris except maybe to give the cast a jolly. Blanche is getting tiresome fast and she wasn't even in the episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||November 23, 2023 2:11 PM|
Wouldn't want what to get out about Paul? Has he dabbled in the mansex?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||November 24, 2023 4:21 AM|
The new FBI subplot is absolutely awful. Too late after the McCarthy era and too early for Nixon’s enemies list.
If the real Russ Monash hated Julia in its first season he must really hate it after the most recent episode.
I really love Adriane Lennox as Alice’s mother. I wish she’d have a scene with Sarah Lancashire and Bene Neuwirth.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||November 24, 2023 4:48 PM|
The show is becoming less about Julia and more about the people around her.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||November 24, 2023 5:08 PM|
I agree the FBI subplot is awful and weird.
Everyone except Julia is wearing second-hand vintage clothing and some of it looks a bit ratty. The costumers should have duplicated it instead of purchasing on ebay or wherever.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||November 24, 2023 9:24 PM|
Well, at least the awful FBI subplot wasn’t in evidence in this latest episode.
David Hyde Pierce did a beautiful job playing Paul and his twin Charlie.
The walking anachronism Alice Naman produced a pilot with a Black host and a discussion about contraception in 1964 in Boston and expected it to go like gangbusters? Please. And speaking of anachronisms was there even such a thing as “product placement” on TV in 1964?
The actor playing the Life interviewer was very good.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||December 1, 2023 2:32 AM|
Thanks for the spoilers, R69. Maybe, you know, wait a day?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||December 1, 2023 2:35 AM|
Shall I start the next thread in this series for when it's needed?
Say, for 2027?
I'll name it "Yet More French Cooking."
|by Anonymous||reply 71||December 1, 2023 2:42 AM|
R67 My thoughts exactly, more Julia please.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||December 1, 2023 3:25 PM|
Let's have a debate about product placement, which was contrary to PBS"s rules at that time.
Then let's have a Black producer who never existed come up with an idea for a show that would have been unthinkable in 1962 with a host who never would have been cast and then let's lament the station manager's lack of courage and foresight.
Then let's have Judith Jones say "fuck" except that few women used that word back then.
Then let's see Bebe Neuwirth's legs because Bebe Neuwirth.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||December 2, 2023 1:14 AM|
DHP did great work as Paul and his twin. R73. You're right on all counts. It's a fictionalized account of a real woman's life. They should probably call it a fable.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||December 2, 2023 5:47 AM|