Gay British Porn star expresses concern that he will have to give up porn work in his 30s because he wants to have kids

I would be mortified if either of my parents worked in or had worked as a pornstar.

You know, because once he retired ALL of his pron pix and movies of him taking it up the ass magically disappear.

On a related note - I wonder why the conventional wisdom is that you shouldn't do porn because "it will stop you from getting a job"

I wouldn't do porn for a myriad of other reasons. That said, I'll bet 90% of former Helix models have found new work without a problem

r2 Precisely!! Perhaps he isn't that bright or his mind is just short term short term short term..?

But work that they want r3 ? I think it's more about porn limiting your career choices rather than destroying them?

I'm ways surprised at people who think having kids is the natural next step in their lives. Really? There's nothing you want to do with your life before becoming a Nanny for the next 25 years?

Why would anyone in porn *want* kids? As nasty as kids often are, I'm sure their schoolmates will be throwing it in their faces as soon as they find out.

r7 Excellent question.

Some people just shouldn't have kids, and he's one of those people.

He's beautiful and he knows it, but he is in for a harsh reality check if he thinks he's gonna last that long. Only a handful of guys were able to pull those years in porn (more than 5 with constant spotlight) and they didn't look like him. He's too beautiful, that's why I get depressed when I see him. He should have done proper modelling or acting. To be a successful porn star you have to be handsome, but in a dirty and naughty way, like Trenton Ducati or Andy Star, not like a an actual fashion model. Same difference there is between Sasha Grey and Elle Fanning.

In this world kids don't want pornstar parents just like they don't really want gay ones, but unfortunately no one ever thinks of the kids, just their own desires to be seen as normal.

r10 Yes a very harsh awakening sadly because he really does seem to have taken a lot for granted. I think the longevity think in porn careers works in two ways. Age and novelty. Yes getting older would have an effect on how much work or demand there is for porn with him in it-there are always bright young things and fresh new talent. I mean does he not think that he in some sense helped displace demand and interest in other pornstars? Of course he did and the same will happen to him down the line. But distinct from age is novelty. After a while your pulling power and novelty interest factor wanes. Once you have been in the field for a certain amount of time ie years focus and attention lessens and shifts to others. Few if any people are so great especially in a field increasingly oversaturated , will be able to maintain high levels of interest no matter how hot they are. So a person could come into porn in their thirties or forties and maintain interest at a high level for so many years .That is their time in the sun so to speak. In that instance it was age that handed their career but just that they had been around a while and become part of the furniture. Craig also has the disadvantage of not being allowed in the US. He seems to be banned as Chris Damned hinted strongly. Going by his Instagram stories he smokes cannabis a lot. Perhaps this has helped give him an unrealistic take on the future too. I mean Josh Moore is hugely popular and still relatively young but I sense many are getting bored because he has been around 5 or 6 years and was a workaholic with frantic high levels of activity. After a while it feels more stale.

r12 Should say it wasn't AGE that hampered or harmed their career but duration.

Too late to change what will inevitably happen:

His children will be mocked. His job opportunities will shrink. He will have to continue to whore for pounds.

Gay couples having kids is now expected so of course these porn performers who are actually gay will be having them when they couple up and settle down. It’s probably no big deal as most of these kids will never find out what their dad did as his previous occupation.

No big deal until the kid's classmates find out.

r15 He says himself in the linked video interview that his porn career is very well known in his home city. It is common knowledge.

Craig Marks is very handsome and pretty but he does not look like a model. He looks like the village idiot and acts like one too. He looks like the local charming boy who got kicked in the head by a horse and now everyone adores and is kind to.

If he married rich enough and foreign enough, I don't see the problem. But then he wouldn't need to do porn, would he?

R12 Tell me about this porn drama. How is he banned from the US? And how does Chris Damned know about it?

Not sure I would say drama r20 but a while back Chris and Craig flirted on twitter and talked about collaborating with each other in future on Onlyfans. Initially the covid restrictions were a legitimate reason why that was logistically hard to pull off but as restrictions were lifted and other porn stars were travelling with ease to other country it became harden to explain away why it was never happening. There were some exchanges were it was clear that Craig believed it was Chris who was going to fly to the UK and then would include Craig as one of his Onlyfans shoots but Chris seemed to believe the understanding was Craig would travel to the US. At one point Craig indicated on twitter he can't go to the US because they have repeatedly declined him a visa and Chris strongly hinted Oh Craig I wonder why none of the other British pornstars have a problem getting a visa and you do. So to answer your question Chris seems to have guessed after he felt Craig's repeated stalling could not be explained away.

R21 Thanks. Yeah, that makes sense. He would need a simple tourist visa to get in the US. So he either can't get one because of criminal record or something like that, or maybe he doesn't really want to shoot with Chris and is stalling by coming up with a poor excuse.

Gay porn stars actually make most of their money from escorting. In reality it isn’t any different to what they do on camera. They are paid to have sex. But they can make much more selling the sex privately.

For me, that’s the bigger issue for them (as they age). Many start turning to drugs and as they get older their sexual services become cheaper and sleazier.

R12 Exactly and that's why I don't think it's a great choice to enter porn at such a young age (Craig started last year at just 21!). It's a lot wiser to try at early 30s and milk the cow until you can. Also Onlyfans it's inevitably going to burst at some point. Even today the accounts who make big money are not that many. Most people on it just gain something to make ends meet, nothing groundbreaking. After a while even the content you make can bore fans and people, like Josh Moore or Sean Austin, so you either have great creativity or you are a legitimate porn ACTOR in real porn movies, which I hope they return seriously after the (hopeful) Onlyfans collapse.

It seems to me that many porn actors nowadays have to fuck all the time. Some seem to make 1 to 4 videos a month for porn producers and then they seem to scurry around shooting at least 1 video a week that they control - with justfofans, onlyfans, etc.

They seem to travel and make a video a day on their travels for onlyfans. If they are making more than 200 to 400 off each only fans video leading to monthly checks from Onlyfans, then they can avoid hustling. Which is even more grueling.

r22 Going by rumours on the gayscene in the northwest of the UK I think its the former. Possibly something minor like a non custodial sentence for possession of drugs but something significant enough to blacklist him from receiving a visa. I think he is a bit of a grifter and this may show itself up in various criminal convictions. Also reading his tweets gives me the impression there are a number of american pornstars Craig would love to work with but if he can't meet them when they tour outside of their own country then it ain't happening me suspects.

r24 Good Post but there was chatter in another thread that Craig has entered porn business previously, then there was an unexplained gap and he reappeared which matches with speculation he disappeared due to legal problems during the gap and also most of his friends who seem like his peers seem older So I think Craig might be lying when he says he was born in 1999- more likely is 1995 or 1994.

Craig isn't 22. Is that what he claims? Sheesh. Suckers.

I'd trust Surviving Angel but Porn Base Central lists him as being born in March 1999 in Liverpool, real name Craig Keeling. He might be older though if speculations are true. Usually PBC has hackers so they rarely miss infos. In future we'll have better knowledge, but I agree that he's shady guy.

r29 Yup that's what he claims. Please spill if you have gossip! r30 Thanks I didn’t realise there was a database of pornstars details! In the linked video he claims Craig Marks is his real name and that he is the exception among pornstars in using his real name so if his actual name is Craig Keeling then he is lying for some reason.

he looks older. I look at college boys everyday for decades. Just a feeling but he looks 25ish. Also his body volume is thicker than 21 22. But maybe thats his age.

In fact I wouldn't be surprised to learn he is 30.

The born March 1999 stuff seems to have been gleaned from a company registration or listing website or the Starnow website were Craig Keeling is listed aa a generic wannabee celebrity. He could simply have lied but its been repeated online as accurate.

Also this Joey guy on twitter here who I follow on social media is a prominent gay lad on the Liverpool gay scene who celebrated his 30th a few years ago 2019 I think and he is communicating with Craig here in 2016

r33 You might well be very right therefore!!^^

Age 33 is a "lad?"

r36In Liverpool lad is a term used more broadly than in other parts of the UK a person in their seventies could reasonably call a man in their thirties lad or a man in his twenties could call an older person lad. Its more of a substitute for mate or pal. It's local lingo in a sense

Yes.

SurvivingAngel is in his 70s?????

No r39 I was giving an example of how in Liverpool an older person can refer to a male younger than them as lad even if they are not that young. I am in my forties but get called lad sometimes by older people.

He’s been in porn his entire adult life. He’s the epitome of “damaged goods” and is not Equipped to raise children

R6, being a parent is a natural and honorable calling and vocation. It changed my life immeasurably for the best. A huge blessing.

r41 Sounds grim when you highlight that he has been in porn pretty much all of his adult life.

I'd be embarrassed if my friends knew my father did porn. I'd be even more embarrassed if my friends saw that he had a stanksleeve.

r44 Stanksleeve?? That's a new express to my ears!

I don't care if he's gay or does porn, but I would never want a parent with neck tattoos.

Several years back, someone was doing a documentary about the children of porn stars. I don't know if it's still in the works or has been scrapped.

r47 Was it more than 5 years ago?

Forget the porn, that man is Damaged!

r49 Agreed. From rumours that I have heard about him on the gay scene in the UK he is a bit of a rogue in terms of the law especially. Untrustworthy and a snake.

Porn stars don't usually get to their mid 30s anyway.

r51 His repeated cocaine use will certainly damage his health.

He is super cute.

Purdy

R25 That’s because making money doing porn is at an all time high because of OnlyFans. They’re not doing it because there’s a lack of money, they’re doing it because there’s more.

OnlyFans has made some porn stars a millionaire. They weren’t making 50-100k a month 10 years ago.

OnlyFans income has plummeted since the pandemic ended. That’s why prolific models like Josh Moore and even Rhyheim Shabazz are doing studio porn again (which pays nothing).

Is he dead yet?

r55 I wonder when that bubble will burst? Will the cost of living crisis be the cause?

R56 News to me.

From what I know, major studios are investing in models OnlyFans accounts, offering crossover models, free hotel rooms, and videographers and taking a percentage. Doing studio porn serves as a promotional tool, not to actually generate income.

To continue from R59, most OnlyFans porn stars like Cade and Shabazz basically sold a “share” to major studios who want to cash in. That’s why their OnlyFans are so stellar because a studio is behind them. Which was bound to happen. That doesn’t mean there’s a lack of money, they’re getting an extra push from studios instead of doing it on their own.

Josh Moore one of the highest earners in gay porn says he has 2500 subscribers at 15.99 a month. I honestly thought the highest earners would have many more subscribers. Might not take much to bring that number right down given the economic circumstances, high inflation etc.

[quote] 15.99 a month

Does anyone charge more than that? Most of my favourites charge around $10.

Professional whores shouldn't have children, maybe not even pets.

Craig went from English Lads to Lucas in record quick time.

R61 Ok that’s $479,000 a year.

Erik Rhodes and Paul Carrigan weren’t making 480k a year. Neither was any studio star before OnlyFans.

That’s also just subscription income. He probably has unlock videos on his OnlyFans so subscribers could be spending $15 to $50+ a month paying for unlock videos and etc.

There’s no decline on OnlyFans, there’s competition.

I was hot when I was young: I wouldn't have risked my public reputation back then. Now, if I was young and hot, I would probably grab the 200-500K a year for a couple years. I got my 2 ivy degrees and I'm an old man making half what this young porn whore rakes in. Life is not fair. Good for him.

Pretty blue eyes

No...just no.

He has matinée idol good looks.

Yes, R69, he's vaguely reminiscent of Henry Fonda back in the 1930s.

And a dumb whore's brain.

r71 going on what I have heard about him from people on the gay scene in Liverpool and Manchester his brain is not just dumb but also pickled and getting more pickled by the day due to use of substances that make you high or in the mood to dance shall we say?

Why was he banned from the US? Drugs?

And probably also prostitution.

[quote] And probably also prostitution.

You shut mouth pig

Is Craig a 'working' gurl?

r76 Up until recently he was on Sleepyboy escort websites. He has removed his profile from the Liverpool page but may well now be listed for London or Manchester? r74 Yes there is talk or whispers that Craig hovered around at bars on the Liverpool gay scene especially in the hours before closing time that suggested he was a prostitute or paid hustler .I don't find it hard to believe that pre onlyfans he did a bit of that. There is an impression I am getting from information etc that I am aware of that he could sometimes be aggressive on the scene especially if maybe he was targetting someone for money and they weren't fully falling for his charm. Upset a few people badly is how I would describe it. So his police record blocking his travel to the US could be linked to aggressive behavior as well as maybe drugs and prostitution.

Shite R77, looks like such a nice boy!

r78 Cilla Black are you posting from beyond the grave you died in 2015!!😲😉

He would have been perfect on Cilla's 'Blind Date'.

It's almost like porn attracts damaged people.

Well, she is still of childbearing age!

R62, the most I’ve ever seen charged is $20 a month—by “Doc TayTay (he went by Taylor on CF, and is now the resident pimp for Gay Hoopla)

The 2nd highest amount I’ve seen charged is $19.99, by Craig Marks’ fellow English Lads model “Wolverpeen” (a former runway model named Ross Hindmarch who appeared in EL vids as Rufus).

R83 Rufus was cute. Was his content any good, I hope so for that price?

R83, he posted daily, was communicative with subscribers, and had barely any limits…BUT…he’s sadly straight. By the time I stopped subscribing, he was regularly posting photos and videos where he was “getting fucked by a friend,” but it was obviously a woman wearing a strap-on. He’s a gay baiter, so I checked out.

[quote]He also bigs up Michael Lucas in the interview which tells me he is trying to find an in back with him after rumoured fallout were stopped following each other on twitter and Lucas shaded him in an Instagram story putting a photo up of Craig to the song no friend of mine.

I found this incomprehensible.

R86, I interpreted it as:

He also complimented Michael Lucas in an interview, even though the two allegedly had a falling out.

The speed with which he went from creepy EL owner to duckface was astonishing.

Former British porn actor and escort Daniel Johnson also know as Master Derek has a child. Allegedly one of former clients sent some of his porn videos to members of his family on Facebook and to the mother of his child. Allegedly this caused major problems with the mother of his child and for her to curtail Daniel's access to his child which in turn caused Daniel to quit porn and escorting alltogether. Daniel Johnson allegedly now has a non porn related job and supposedly has no intention of ever going back to porn.

Speaking of Chris Damned. He recently stated in one of q&a's on his instagram stories, that one day he would like to have a child and get married(to a man).

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R1 once when borrowing my Dad's work laptop (back in the 2000s) I found p0rn open in his browser, of the MILF with freakishly-sized tits variety.

Our relationship hasn't been the same since. And that's just knowing he watches that stuff. Imagining that he'd starred in such videos...that would be the clincher to cut him off, honestly.

r89 Interesting he quit escorting because thats what Craig Marks has now done.He used to be listed on Sleepyboys escorts page with photos but removed it a few months ago.His escort status is well known in the gay community in Liverpool. I think his parents and family known about his pornwork but I think escorting might have been a red line for them and Craig quit when it became problematic with his parents.Somehow they class being a pornstar as morally much better than being an escort.

Shame he quit r89 but I guess he had no choice in order not to lose access to his child.

Craig Marks has a hot porn body but the face is a 6 or 7, revealing no character or intelligence whatsoever.

r94 He is currently in Qatar with friends , some of whom are aerial aerobatic type performers doing a performance for the world cup.I do hope for his sake that he isnt too flamboyant in front of some of the homophobic authorities there and he keeps his porn star status to himself. but you are right he is pretty dim.

I sincerely doubt the psychological issues that led him to sex work will endear him to parenthood.

R95 so he’s looking to get wagged up by a bougie himbo footballer?

That porn actors are all referred to as stars is part of the problem.

[quote] Onlyfans it's inevitably going to burst at some point. Even today the accounts who make big money are not that many. Most people on it just gain something to make ends meet, nothing groundbreaking. After a while even the content you make can bore fans and people.

There are local Brit MILFs making bank off OF, over £5k a month in some cases—riches if you come from a council estate and can only get entry level jobs that pay £20k a year.

New career? lol Whatever she says.

[quote] in Liverpool, ‘lad’ is a term used more broadly than in other parts of the UK. A person in their seventies could reasonably call a man in their thirties ‘lad’, or a man in his twenties could call an older person ‘lad’. It’s more of a substitute for ‘mate’ or ‘pal’. It's local lingo in a sense.

La’ you can’t even explain things to these divvies, it’s like talking to to the fochkin wall. Pyar pyar beauts the lot of them.

This is an absurd concern in that that ship has already sailed.

If he's concerned about such issues, he's already set the stage for his kids being bullied over it. No reason to stop at this point.

Surely with amateur sidegig p0rn becoming so prevalent, every third kid in classes of the future will have a parent who’s posted some questionable explicit material online. It will be commonplace enough not to be worth bullying over. After all, schoolyard bullies pick on differences that they and their mates can’t be bullied for.

r96 I wonder what those issues might be/are?

R98: Yeah, I think it’s weird that they are viewed by some as if they are akin to Hollywood celebrities. They are glorified prostitutes, likely even more psychologically fucked up than people who pursue acting, singing, modeling, etc.

Somehow they should get more respect over escorts because their paid sex is filmed? Prostitution is illegal unless you’re recording it with an iPhone? Porn performers are deluded if they think porn is a path to wealth. That’s a big if because I think many of them are just attention-hungry exhibitionists. Their opportunity to make money is brief since their shelf life is brief. And they have a lot of competition.

They have their loyal fanbases, but are largely ignored by the mainstream. When porn “stars” die, the media pays little attention to it. Unlike movie and TV stars, their deaths are not considered newsworthy. Their fame is more disposable than that of influencers and reality show celebs.

r105 A great many of them now really insist on being called sex workers and object with fury if you call them a prostitute insisting sex workers and prostitutes are completely different...!

Really? Fury? I do want to hear about your latest furious conversation with a sex worker SA, I admit it.

r107 I have seen it on twitter and instagram posts numerous times.Someone posts a reply to someone doing porn on onlyfans saying stop thus taking yourself so seriously you are basically a prostitute and angry responses from the sex worker concerned and sometimes fellow sex workers joining in the twitter thread saying sex work is inclusive and different to prostitution?