Olive Skinned Scandinavians

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A former college colleague, who I've remained friends with, is American of Swedish descent. His grandparents came to the US in the 1940s, no one in his family married into other races or nationalities, which makes him 100% Swedish descent on both sides of his family.

My friend and his siblings are olive skinned with dark eyes and small features. His sister looks a lot the actress Alicia Vikander. actress.

I take it Alexander Skarsgard does not count?

During the height of the Ottoman Empire, Turks got way up there. Hence, towns in Finland like “Turku” and some of the (first) names sound distinctly Middle Eastern.

Are Finns Scandinavians though?

Isn’t pale skin a mutation, like blue eyes? It’s more likely that most people, even in northern countries, would have some coloring.

[Are Finns Scandinavians though?]

R5. Finland is one of the five Nordic countries: Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden...along with the autonomous territories of the Faroe Islands and Greenland (constituent countries within the Kingdom of Denmark) and the autonomous region of Åland (the smallest region of Finland in the southwest of the country whose official language is Swedish).

The three Scandinavian countries are: Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

Finns do not identify as Scandinavian.

[quote] Finns do not identify as Scandinavian.

Saying that is literal violence!

Bump.

Not another fucking skin color thread.

White people tan. This is not news.

Part II Why all the Germans with dark skin? Newsflash DL, the original Europeans had a darker skin tone.

My father had DNA testing done. Scandinavia was its own category, and so was Finland. Are people from Finland that distinct?

R14 Yes, by language also. They're their own ethnic group, categorised along with Estonians. Known as the Finnish Baltic ethno-group.

I believe the native Sami may be distantly related, known as Lapps, or Laplanders, speakers of the Finno-Ugric language group. Magyar Hungarian is in this group as well.

For all we know, they may be high yellow!

Sammy Jo from Dynasty

Fucking A, Yellow Skin Troll. How long have you been doing this? A decade at least

[quote] Fucking A, Yellow Skin Troll.

Isn't this thread about olive skin?

The Yellow Skin Troll likes to start many, many threads about this topic R20. It all has the same end goal of getting pictures, and debate on blonde men, who have natural yellow, or olive undertones to their skin. I don't care that he does it, I just want a clear explanation as to why!

[quote] I just want a clear explanation as to why!

Intense fetish I'm sure. However, yellow and olive skin are very different.

I wanna know whhhhy… WHHHHHHYYYYYYY!

Threads like this should have “Moo! Bitch, I’m a sea cow!” as a warning.

Any legitimate ones?

Never marry, or even dally with, a Scandinavian: they're all quite insane.

One of my exes was Finnish. He was hung.

I tend to find that Scandinavians fall into two different categories in terms of looks: There are the stereotypical fair-haired ones who sometimes have a sun-kissed appearance that could be interpreted as "olive" skin; and the brunette Scandinavians with brown eyes who almost look more Russian than they do the blond/blue-eyed, stereotypical Swede or Norwegian. Alicia Vikander is a good as example of the latter as R2 notes; the Swedish singer Lykke Li is another. Both have dark hair/eyes and a slightly olive skin tone.

I am mostly of Swedish and Russian/Ukrainian-Jewish ancestry. I have dark brown hair and hazel eyes, and share enough features with someone like Lykke Li (full cheeks, big round eyes) that we could pass as brother and sister. That being said, no one in my paternal lineage (which is where the Swedish comes from) looks like that. They are all, for the most part, blond or dirty blond, pale, and have green or blue eyes. My great-grandfather immigrated to the US from Sweden, and you can see those classic Scandinavian features in my dad.

Many Southern Swedes and coastal Norwegians can trace their ancient DNA to the Yamnaya people of the Pontic-Caspian steppe.

The butter-yellow skin characteristic could be more a Germanic gene: I had a physically flawless ultra blond boyfriend who had it, and he was from the Rhineland. I was on a London train two years ago, and there were a group of German tourists, and one teenager would have made the Yellow Skin Troll faint in ecstasy: he seemed to have a double gene helping of it. It's definitely rare and breathtaking: like the hue filter on Photoshop turned up a notch. Not just their skin, but their iris, and hair seem more intense in colour as if they're super healthy. It's going to be so cool when gene editing enables racheting up beauty. Let's hope the Big Dick Gene discoverer scores the Nobel Prize.

There is a song I really like from the 1970's, called " fool if you think its over", sung by a man named Chris Rea. When I recently looked up more information about the song, it said he was a Sammie person. His appearance changed so much from when he was younger to now, that I thought It was the wrong man. I'm not saying anything anything disparaging, I just thought it was interesting. He said that Sammi people can have blonde hair and light skin when theyre young and then get to their 30's and then their appearance changes. I just thought it was interesting.

What the fuck is a Sammie?

Wikipedia says he's German-Irish.

Oh. You mean Sámi.

Jesus.

R31 Funny that... Zellweger looks the same fairness, and she's of Sámi descent.

There’s a pretty wide variety of skin tones and hair and eye colors in ethnic Scandinavians. You don’t need to have any recent non-scandinavian heritage to be an easily tanned brunette.

That said, in Sweden unusually dark coloring is often anecdotally explained through Walloon heritage. Walloons (from southern Belgium/northern France) were recruited to work in the iron industry in the 16th and 17th century. They eventually assimilated into the general population, but it’s pretty popular to claim Walloon heritage nowadays, and any vaguely French sounding surname or swarthy complexion is taken as evidence of it.

The Sámi people are also, I would say, on average a little bit darker in complexion than your average non-Sámi Scandinavian. A lot of Swedes and Norwegians from the northern parts of Scandinavia have some Sámi heritage even if they don’t identify as Sámi. People who identify as fully Sámi tend to also have finno-ugric features.

Is Renee Zellweger of Sami descent?

Who cares?

For example, the most gorgeous of the top five 1990s supermodels is the Danish Helena Christensen.

Turks never got to Finland. Turku comes from the Russian word for market

And the name dates from 1154, well before the Ottomans were anything or anywhere near constantinople and therefore available to influence nordic countries.

Apparently Sweden was freed from the ice earlier than most of Scandanavia, so had more original migration from the south, in the form of people with darker skin pigments.

Derek Hough owns this thread!

[quote] The most violent group of people who ever lived: Horse-riding Yamnaya tribe who used their huge height and muscular build to brutally murder and invade their way across Europe than 4,000 years ago

A brutish tribe of people who lived in the Neolithic era more than 4,000 years ago is being touted as the most violent and aggressive society to ever live.

A growing body of evidence is convincing archaeologists that the Yamnaya society ruthlessly massacred opposing societies.

It is believed the primitive society capitalised on disease, warfare and famine and unceremoniously swept through Europe, destroying entire civilisations and leaving destruction in their wake.

DNA evidence from several prehistoric burial sites has revealed hoards of these tall, muscular and violent warriors would overwhelm other societies on horseback.

They would murder men and sire their own children so that within a few generations the presence of the previous societies is all but eradicated.

Yamnaya people arrived in Eastern Europe approximately 5,000 years ago and their culture and customs spread rapidly to both the east and the west.

They then interbred with the Corded Ware people in central Europe, with later generations inheriting a significant amount of Yamnaya DNA.

Environments in these two locations were vastly different at this time in history with the European steppe and its shrubland giving way to forests and vast areas of greenery.

Evidence of genetic remnants of these people so far away from their origin sparked confusion and outrage among many experts, who scrambled for an explanation to explain how the tribe moved so swiftly across the continent.

Not only were the people spreading, but so were their customs.

The Yamnaya buried their dead in easily identifiable ways, in 'pit graves' and not the common communal graves of the time.

Wooden beams covered the grave and a mound of Earth, known as a kurgan, was created atop the burial site.

These, and their artifacts and remains of the Yamnaya, have been found dotted around many other areas of the continent.

Some experts claim the presence of their technology and rituals is proof of them preceding their actual migration but others claim they exploited a time when the rest of Europe was weak and vulnerable.

A TIMELINE OF HOW THE YAMNAYA CONQUERED EUROPE

Arrive at the European steppe in the south-east of the continent 5,000 years ago.

Reach the far more central areas which are vastly different and covered in forests in a mere 100 years.

They interbred with the Corded Ware people.

Bell Beaker people appear in Iberia at this time in Iberia.

Bell Beaker culture spreads eastwards over the next few centuries and is embraced by the Corded are people who carry the Yamnaya DNA.

These then interbreed and the so-called Yamnays Beakers travelled to Britain using sea-faring knowledge garnered from the Iberian natives.

They conquer Britain and within a handful of generations the people who built Stonehenge are eradicated form the genetic record.

A surprising number of men with Scandinavian heritage have large amounts of pubic hair. Did it evolve for the protection of the genitals in the cold climate?

[quote] Derek Hough owns this thread!

Is he of Scandinavian descent?

post some example pics

R38 That must not be a good picture of her.

Alicia Vikander is dark skinned Scandinavian

The Roskilde Festival happens annually in Denmark.

From Wikipedia: The Roskilde Festival was Denmark's first music-oriented festival created for hippies, and today covers more of the mainstream youth from Scandinavia and the rest of Europe. Most festival visitors are Danes, but there are also many visitors from elsewhere, especially the other Scandinavian countries and Germany.

Every year since 1999, on the Saturday of the festival (held on a Thursday in 2015, 2016 and 2017), Roskilde Festival Radio organizes a naked run in a fenced-in track around the camp site. One male and one female winner receive a ticket for the next year's festival. The run has subsequently become a very popular and "legendary" part of the festival.

The Danish model has a Peruvian mother, hence the duskyness, she is striking too, I see why she won. I think we project too much, most Scandinavians are still blond or blondish.

I have also wanted to travel to the Scandinavian countries. I know some Swedes and they are beautiful people. Their families are beautiful. I know the skin you are talking about. Tans so beautiful and not red splotchy like my creamy British skin.

Ignore that website, Its kinda bunk, they say Germany is 66% blond, wrong, mostly brown hair and blue eyes.

[quote]Turks got way up there

Pics please.

Finland is Nordic, not Scandinavian.

R54, see R7.

they are sexy sluts

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R58 here. I forgot about the Independent block, which scrubbed my post because of the image link. My comment was that I also have noticed the phenomenon OP is talking about, though I don't know the reason. My dad's ancestry is mostly Swedish and he has olive-adjacent skin, green eyes, and was a towhead until his teens where his hair turned to a light brown.

Despite the Aryan stereotype, there are a lot of Swedes who have dark eyes and dark hair (the Swedish singer Lykke Li, in the photo I linked above, comes to mind). My features are much closer to hers than they are my father's—in fact, she looks a lot like my mother, a first-generation American whose ancestry is mostly Irish and Russian-Jewish.

I'm part Finnish. Here's a link that outlines Finland's history.

From the Internet: Easternmost part of Sweden 1323–1809

After the Treaty of Nöteborg in 1323, most of Finland was a part of Sweden. For about 500 years, Finnish history is Swedish history. The region of Finland was Sweden’s buffer against the East, and the borders shifted many times in various wars.

Finns consider themselves Western Europeans because the time as a part of the Kingdom of Sweden strongly tied Finns to the Western cultural heritage. . .

Russia captured and occupied Finland and claimed it as a part of the Russian Empire from 1809–1917 (end of Russian monarchy).

Russia still is a threat to Finland as well as to Sweden. Putin's insanity knows no bounds.

When Finland became a country close to a quarter of the people spoke Swedish, but now it's down to about 6%

I mean as a first language.

Blond hair and blue eyes both spread to the rest of Europe from some chance mutations in the Baltic region. It's quite possible that the first people with those mutations were so unique that people fought to mate with them for prestige or possibly for religious reasons. Blue eyes probably came first. There is some evidence that all original human settlers of Europe were very dark-skinned, just like present day Africans, yet early on, some started to appear with blue eyes. Secondarily, blue eyes were an advantage for people living in a low sunlight environment. (Blue eyes tend to see better in the dark than dark eyes). Better vision in low light conditions would mean more success at hunting, hence a genetic advantage. Lighter skin also has something of a genetic advantage in low sunlight areas, as darker skin with its cameoflaging melanin would make the production of vitamin D under such conditions very difficult. It's a problem even now for black people who are immigrants to far northern latitudes. But super-light skin with freckles would only have an advantage in places with cloudy conditions year-round, like the British Isles. Parts of Sweden have sunnier climates in summer because the mountains of Norway block the moist oceanic air from penetrating. So maybe some people retained more olive skin there?

Some interesting maps

r2 Fascinating level of detail

Blonde hair map

R38, Helena has a Peruvian mother.

R60, Peter the Great swiped Finland from Sweden well before 1809.

R4 what was with the Ottoman Empire anyway? A whole Empire based on the concept of putting your feet up?

Turks with hair dye.

Next!

R43 interesting, but any source that spells “hordes” of people as “hoards”, is not a serious publication.

Being olive-skinned, I was surprised when a make-up artist asked me if I was Scandinavian. She looks at faces all day, so she would know, I guess.

Oddly enough, 23andme revealed that I do have a smidgen of Scandinavian heritage - probably the result of Viking shenanigans.

[quote] in fact, she looks a lot like my mother, a first-generation American whose ancestry is mostly Irish and Russian-Jewish.

There's a lot of Scandinavian blood flowing through Ireland. If you asked my paternal grandfather, he'd say our surname is of Irish origin. It's been there for hundreds of years but its origin is Scandinavian and quite common in Denmark and Norway.

Bumpers!

Any others?