This author has a new book coming out

Right wing troll thread. Every once in a while, someone will try to shill for this alt-right Limey shitstain. How quickly before the sock puppets start slapping W&Ws?

R1 thanks for r1ing, wouldn't be the same without you!

The video:

Not only are the right and left sides of his face not symmetrical, they look like they belong to two entirely different people. He speaks like Duncan Preston playing Clifford on Acorn Antiques.

Lots of Botox

I wasn't looking at his face or the stilted delivery, r4!

Damn, he is hot!

R6, can you imagine bedroom talk in that kind of stilted delivery?

Yes, R8 🥵 he'd be like a clueless schoolboy trying to please!

If you watch his videos, he can be patronizing and off putting. Comes off as someone who is selfish in bed. He bulked up, got Botox/face peels, to compete in the American market. Acknowledges he’s gay, but does put the community down. He does have some good videos. You just have to sift through them. After he bulked up, he started dropping the thirst trap photos to show himself off. Was partnered for a number of years, but no one knows if he still is. He is very handsome. Would love to see him and Owen Jones have a debate. It’d be like Gore Vidal/William F Buckley 2.0, two bitchy queens going at it.

He's a xenophobic rightwing cunt. A pretentious bootstrapper as well, the entire persona is put on.

His halved face reveals his corrupt insincere soul. He also looks sickly, like an industrial farm animal pumped with water and hormones to look juicy.

He is rather attractive, and I do think some of what he says is worth saying. But is this book just a rehash of everything he's said for ten years? Muslims bad, woke bad, progressives bad, Christians great, except for that occasionally murderous hatred of all gay people.

His book The Madness of Crowds (2019) is excellent. He can be a bit strident and pretentious in person, but he's a great writer. Of course, because he criticizes the more extreme elements of the left, he's the devil incarnate for some.

Dead Nickelback freeper cunt fuck Eyes

He has a blank stare….dead eyes.

so annoying

Right-wing troll alert

His voice reminds me of Jan Hooks "The Fall... of the House... of Buttafuoco..."

How does he put the gay community down?

He doesn't r20, but he does take on the TQ+ crowd.

I read his Wiki entry... he contends the left likes to tar anybody who isn't left as far right.

He's improved his looks since he and his ex split up but we haven't heard anything about a new partner, though as a 42 year old bottom he's swimming against the tide in that respect.

r10 that would be pretty funny.

r22 they do - he's not "far right wing" from what I can tell, but there's already been posters in this thread accusing him of it. And that's pretty much the M.O. of the trolls like r1 who accuse everyone who disagrees with them of being a troll.

There's another, older book called "War on the West" by a different author - I wonder why he used the same name? That just seems needlessly confusing.

R10

" It’d be like Gore Vidal/William F Buckley 2.0, two bitchy queens going at it." hahahahaha...... “Listen to me you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.”

Classic. Sadly, kids these days probably wouldn't get the reference.

Correct, R24.

He is friends with Joe Rogan. Perhaps they can die in a grease fire together.

I'm assuming r28 has never read a book by Douglas Murray or listened to a Joe Rogan podcast.

Why is he talking in a mid Atlantic accent? Odd!

I don't think that's mid-Atlantic cause he would pronounce "War" like "Wah" and he clearly says the "r"

I hope it doesn't have a lot of ss.

BTW, what has David Irving been up to lately?

Why are right wing trolls so fucking stupid?

[quote]He is friends with Joe Rogan. Perhaps they can die in a grease fire together.

Throw OP in with them and I'll light the match.

Threatening violence is always appropriate when you disagree with someone.🙄

He's taken my advice and ditched the tees for a polo shirt.

HE VOTES QGP!

[quote] If you watch his videos, he can be patronizing and off putting

I don't agree. He's also not right wing, he's conservative.

Douglas has been out since he was about 15. He's very comfortable in his skin and not afraid to call out radical elements. He just happens to be gay, it is not his profession to be GAY!!!!!

R34 and r35 - no matter how hard you bleat and REEEEEEEEEEE at everyone, your (now violent) attempts to shut down conversation about anything and anyone you dislike are quite authoritarian and not at all democratic.

R38 QGP?

He's cute. I don't think I'd mind giving his balls a good tonguewashing at all.

Photos of the ex? And, why the split? Interesting that an ex is not mentioned in his Wiki bio.

If they weren't married why would you list an ex? Were they married?

People don't list former boyfriends in their bios. Unless you're a whore darling.

Rogan's latest interview with Murray just dropped.

Any good?

Murray makes me embarrassed to be an expat Brit living in the States. He's the worst sort of toff who has the audacity to argue there isn't any entrenched or systemic racism here in the States. To my knowledge, he hasn't lived in the US long enough to make such a claim. He's also a collaborator with Prager U, which is enough for any gay man to feel unwell at such a prospect.

Just another opportunist, pandering to a segment of the right wing to make money. IMHO, no different to Dave Rubin, Milo, and several other charmless and arrogant conservatard gays. Utterly clueless, and tone deaf he is.

OMG stop TALKING.

Isn’t he a proud Neocon who supported the Iraq War?

R49 Yes indeed, quite the proud Neo-Con he is...

R48 Who is talking too much? Please be more specific with your cryptic posts next time.

R48 That wouldn't possibly be you, Murray? Or is it? I know Murray is keen on trolling the comments section of some of his interviewers. Sad, Neocon tears... Someone ought to collect them and make a vaccine with them. We need all the defence we can get against such an enemy. I'm in shock of his support here, though I must admit his first book was rather well-written. He shouldn't try to speak on American subjects however, as he lacks an authentic voice of authority.

The 20 or so one-line/one-thought hysterical posts show that those Murray is effective.

Murray wants us to look at themselves and shake us out of the delusions we've been mindlessly adopting over the last decade

R53 Kindly fuck off, and please speak in English next time. Go wash your mouth after sucking Murray's toxic cock.

[quote] please speak in English next time

What language is R53 speaking?

R53 How you reconcile being gay with such ideology is beyond my scope... And this isn't an invitation to explain yourself. I'm just appalled by how many daft turncoat conservatives DL have onboard. (violently SMH, I'm like a Hepburn bobblehead here)

R55 Conservatard Code.

Looks hot. Opened his mouth and my peen shriveled to a pea.

...the Age of Unreason.

canceled before i fully understood the book contents

agree with stilt-i threw up some backwash in my throat while watching

There's actually nothing more hypocritical than an Etonian White Brit, who attended Oxford, who claims to be an authority on racism in America. Especially a "Johnny-come-lately, who isn't even a citizen. Doesn't quite sit well with reasonable people, regardless of party affiliation.

Chahlie BIT meee...

I don't even think Murray believes the shite he's been peddling about th West being victim to criticidm or hostilities. Not unlike Rubin, et.al. he's simply s simp and a shill. Prager £u€king U? Are you kidding me, we're meant to take him as an honest intellectual?

He's another voice which claims that Christians are persecuted in the West as well, which is one of the most laughable talking points in the conservative narrative. It's especially rich, coming from someone not unlike Jordan Petersen, who claims to be an Atheist, yet "Culturally Christian"... There isn't enougj bicarb in my cabinet to dispel my dyspepsia.

^ apologies for all my typos... new phone, and lousy keyboard

R56 What 'ideology' are you taking about?

Do you embrace the transvestite delusion we've been mindlessly adopting over the last decade?

Though I'm a fan of both Freddy, and Unherd, listen to Murray's latest interview here, if you csn stomach his arrogance, and impertinence. He may seem to touch on valid points or grievances as a Westerner, yet we myst take our licks, as they say... one and all and have the moral fortitude to call out our mistakes as a civilisation. That's what growth, and reconciliation is all about.

Whether you're British, American, or European, there are mistakes to acknowledge, rather than digging one's heels in, and denying it all. He's impossible and insufferable.

It's a hit of cluckbait above, as the title is misnomer... as he only touches on Putin and Russia for a few minutes...

^ bit of clickbait... but worth a listen to properly gauge his dysfunction.... AND arrogance.

R68 I don't have time for a video that runs for a full HOUR!

Can you tell us in what minute he displays this 'arrogance' that you're complaining about.

R69 Claiming there isn't entrenched or systemic racism in America for one, but moreover, the argument that an admission of any guilt in such a context, makes Western countries weak (he's using a UN situation as a specific example) and vulnerable to criticism, as the Chinese did at the UN...

He constantly uses "we" in the defence of Americans, when he isn't really one (and neither am I, though I've lived here in the US a lot longer than he has) It would never occur to me to speak for Americans. . It's like Piers Morgan criticising America when he lived here. If you haven't been brought up here, stop selling yourself as an authority on American culture... That's the rub. You may need more than a cursory familiarity with Murray to see the merits of my argument, that's why I posted the link.

R70 Can you tell in what minute this happens?

You can't expect Americans to listen to an hour of what foreigners have to say.

R71 Fair enough, but I'm not the OP, and there does seem to be support for him here... The arrogance is straight out the gate... first few minutes... you don't need to devote an hour.

If you're at familiar with those onboard at PragerU, I don't think much more needs to be said about Murray being arrogant really.

^at all familiar with...

Murray is also guilty of far too many ad hominems to be considered a respectful debater, and intellectual speaker. He's not convincing any of his opponents, nor is he engendering respect for any if his opponents.

Labelling those who have grievances concerning race and racism as "Race Hucksters" is most especially egregious to me: Despicable conservative:

[quote] Murray is also guilty of far too many ad hominems…

R75 I know that 'Argumentum ad hominem' is Latin for 'argument to the person' but which actual persons are you thinking of?

Douglas Murray uses words instead of guns but it's obvious that half the people in this thread are well and truly triggered!

R77 Far too often, whomever represents the alternative viewpoint to Murray's is described as foolish, and other pejoratives, suggesting that only smart people believe as Murray does. If you cannot perceive the arrogance, and the anger toward those who think differently; I'm afraid I can't help you to see it.

Many non-Westerners view the UK and the US as arrogant and hypocritical, and Murray is a perfect illustration of the sort they rightly have good points to criticise. When he begins to touch on (briefly in this vid) the benefits Britain have bestowed on India is another cringeworthy trap he falls into. That's not a popular opinion British people as a whole hold any longer. Colonialism, slavery, racism, are not his strong speaking points. If you like him; I'm afraid we've not much in common.

[quote]I read his Wiki entry... he contends the left likes to tar anybody who isn't left as far right.

Translation: I did the laziest form of "research" imaginable, and he says that he's rubber and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces off of him and sticks to you.

[quote]he contends the left likes to tar anybody who isn't left as far right.

He's not just contending. We see that here on Datalounge, often numerous times a day.

[quote] You can't expect Americans to listen to an hour of what foreigners have to say.

I'm American and I listen to hours upon hours of what foreigners have to say all the time.

Do you work in some Immigration Department, R82?

[quote] Labelling those who have grievances concerning race and racism as "Race Hucksters" is most especially egregious to me:

Who are you, R76?

Are you the egregious Miss Dolezal?

No, r83, I listen to a lot of podcasts, many of whom originate from foreign countries and/or feature foreign individuals.

[quote] is most especially egregious to me:

But egregious means "outstandingly bad or shocking"; why do you have such an emotional personal reaction to Murray's words?

Gee I don't know r86, maybe he finds Murray kind of pretentious and tedious. Are you some hopeless fangurl that can't stand the thought of anything less than adulation for the beloved object?

[quote] Murray kind of pretentious and tedious

Why isn't Murray as entertaining as we are?

so fangurl. Well okay, fair enough.

I do think foreigners often have an interesting perspective, so I've never been a fan of: If you ain't Merkin don't be saying nothin bout this country. That's just sad and lame and stupid. But I do think Western Europeans struggle to understand that a lot of Christianity here isn't the polite, tame, quiet little vicar in a country village Christianity. It's loud. It's stupid. It's violent. It's crazy. Not always, but often.

[quote] If you ain't Merkin don't be saying nothin bout this country.

Murray says 'The War on the West', addresses "the extraordinary self-destruction occurring in many countries. It's being led by America but it's the same story in Australia, and New Zealand, and Britain and Canada". He didn't say Western Europe but I reckon he could perhaps include France and Germany.

He is right on many topics, and The Madness of Crowds is a great book.

[quote] Religion went first, falling away from the 19th Century onwards. Then, over the past century, the secular hopes held out by all political ideologies followed. In the latter part of the 20th Century, we entered the post-modern era, defined by its suspicion towards grand narratives. However, nature abhors a vacuum. People in today’s wealthy Western democracies could not simply remain the first people in recorded history to have no explanation for what we are doing here and no story to give life purpose.

okay, so fine r93. Is this going to turn into Marx: The God That Failed, or is something more interesting going on there?

[quote] is something more interesting going on there?

Are you R87 who was complaining that Murray is insufficiently entertaining?

I am r87, but I was not complaining about Murray not being sufficiently entertaining. Are you the fangurl?

No, R96, I'm not a fangurl. Nor am I a Christian, a Lapsed Christian, a Marxist nor Lapsed Marxist.

But I believe with Arnold Toynbee that the West is getting sick this decade. And Murray is useful in that he asks questions.

I watched Freddy's talk with Murray and I agree with him. He doesn't say anything that didn't make sense.

He also wasn't pretentious. Is the accent you can't handle?

The simplistic rejection of what he says is what is arrogant and pretentious to me. People are so naive.

R98 What a spurious argument to suggest someone disagreeing with Neocon, anti-multicultural and very bigoted ideology is [italic] pretentious [/italic] . It's his politics, and belligerence which I find objectionable. He has a really annoying attitude about peoples' grievances over race and more specifically, systemic racism. I'm not arrogant to disagree, but you are for being as pompous as Murray about my willingness to criticise him. He's another pseudo-intellectual who loves to hear himself kvetch.

Furthermore how silly you are to suggest it's his accent, as I've stated upthread that I'm British, living in the States. It's his tone. You're too much of a featherbrain to fail to see that distinction. I'm hardly being a knee-jerking reactionary here, as I've said I've read his first book, and have listened to him "preach" numerous times.

Conservatism seems like a slippery slope to madness for many: Amy Wax, Jordan Petersen, Dave Rubin, Steven Crowder, Denis Prager, and Douglas Murray. Their notions on race and diversity don't really quite fit in with modern notions of equality in the 21st century, a global economy, internationalism, etc...nor do any of them honestly address racial disparity and grievances. Rather, they bully the victims, and progressives.

Living in Chicago, I find it quite funny he believes "old wounds" of racism and slavery have been healed, and minorities and progressives are "ripping the wounds open". He's a shit stirrer, and does absolutely nothing himself to heal such wounds. He's rubbing coarse salt into them actually.

And to R84, who has the audacity to ask "who are you", I'll answer I'm human, and a Jewish progressive who has had enough of these shills pandering to other smug, racist conservatives. If any of you wish to stand with such company, be my guest, but the whole idea that gay people ought to have anything to do with the likes of PragerU, Koch family, etc. is utterly ridiculous to me.

Forgot to add this link... Fanboys get ready for more of your idol... in 3, 2, 1...

R97 Murray is a useful tool for PragerU, Koch family, and Jordan Petersen. The powers which find these people really do not view you as a gay person as an equal either. You don't fit in with their values and narrative, they use you as token gays. People like Rubin and Murray are delusional if they really believe their conservatard peers accept them as equals.

And why would they, when they complain against Asians being too competitive, resent non-Christian immigrants to the UK and the US, and make other bigoted claims about minorities. Murray even believes immigrants coming from so-called "Christian countries ought to have priority for immigration, and refugee status. I'm sorry, but that isn't what the US stands for. This isn't supposed to be a Christian country, as there is a strict division between Church and State. The audacity of these morons is hilarious, and extremely hypocritical when coming out the mouth of a gay bloke. If he were smarter, he'd be ashamed of himself. He's a one note harpy blaming Muslims for everything in the UK.

^TPTB which FUND these people...

The 5th review on Amazon told me all I needed to know.

[quote] Incredibly important read in the fight against the Leftists

I suspected it was right-wing garbage already just from the title.

R103 So you look at the 5th review and then you bring up all your own prejudices. Have you read ANY Douglas Murray?

R99, R100 So you say you have read Murray's first book (his first book was called 'Bosie: A Biography of Lord Alfred Douglas') and then you bring up all your own prejudices and LOTS of second-hand material by second-handers (who give a sane person the impression they've NEVER read anything by Murray.

Why would I read something from somebody who comes off like a right-wing crank?

R105 Funny how conservatives are keen on making allegations of PREJUDICES, when we stand for EQUALITY! Fuck right off with that nonsense. I stand for Muslims, Asians, and any other immigrants to be treated fairly, and receive the same pay. Religion should not be part of assessing one's application for residency, or work status.

People Murray is now in league with, like PragerU and Petersen stand for misogynistic values, and antiquated roles for women. Do you even know who Denis Prager is? He's a pig, that's what he is. They're not worth defending here, and you're embarrassing yourself carrying on like this. Such a bloody fanboy you're comical calling me out for having prejudices. Yeah, mate, I loathe people with shorty values. Deal with it scum sucker.

^ SHITTY VALUES

Why should I pay attention to somebody 'who comes off like' a closed mind and an inability to listen to anything outside their own echo-chamber?

R103 And you were right mate! Spot on. Don't be distracted by this wanker fanboy, defending Murray, whilst spaffing all over his pictures.

With fellow Cutie Brit pundit/Thirst Trap @chriswillx

^ a better pic of Chris

R111 Your idea of "cute" is utterly revolting to me. Ugly on the inside, and oh so SMUG. I don't even believe Murray believes all the tosh that comes out his mouth. Not unlike Petersen, Murray is a pimp recycled right-wing talking points. for conservative minds... pandering to their bigoted ideas, and worst tendencies. Pseudo-intellectualism is just the French polished veneer they apply to their ugly nonsense. Not even worth the price of the paper this book is made of.

I love how this title is greyed out now. I'm sure a lot of Dataloungers don't appreciate this sort of content, promotion of right-wing bigoted talking points, and stupid fanboy pics.

See the trouble is for the less intellectually rigorous, people such as Murray and Petersen sound reasonable on a couple of harmless points, or ideas. They use that acceptance of people to their advantage when they drop the little bigoted bits like too many Asians in the US, and at the Universities, or that all Muslims do not belong in the West... they're not smart enough to decipher between a radicalised jihadist, and a simple harmless person of a Muslim background.

Then Murray plays that he's an American now, and can tell us that racism is not a big problem, or worth talking about... Very insidious or stealth modus operandi....to shut down debate, and stifle others' voices. We're all just "woke" liberals, ripping open old wounds. Fuck Murray right in the arse without lube.

R113: do you realize almost all the words you spew have no intellectual substance to them? Just a lot of emotive verbal ejaculations?

R114: the title is only greyed out to Delicate Flowers like you. To the rest of us who have set the Flames and Freaks setting to ‘Asbestos Eyeballs’, it appears normal and ungreyed out

D115 How's this for your pseudo-intellectual grandstanding, and right-wing bent: YOU'RE A MASSIVE SHIT-STAINED CUNT!!!!

This thread has been a rich opportunity to block the conservative and bigoted cunts.

R117: Aaah, such WIT! Such Eloquence! How did you manage it?

R117 is triggered.

Nah, r117 is right, r115 is an enormous loser. He's posted about 100 times about how awesome Elon Musk is, complete with fanboy photos of him. Embarrassing.

Same trolls here advocating for this conservatard crap, defend Amy wax, and several are relentless AntiTrans trolls, or fanboying for Cawthorn and Tucker Carlson. FFS, find another site for your bullshit. It's both boring, and morally repugnant to most people here. You think you're "oh so eloquent" and elegant, but you are defending the indefensible. Nothing elegant about Fundamentalist aligned Neocons who hate everyone who isn't White, Christian, or orthodox Jewish, as in the case of Prager and Shapiro.

It's you who live in an echo chamber, as all these talking points are the same toxic sludge, just different mouths.

Amy Wax says the decline of 'bourgeois values' (such as hard work, self-discipline, marriage, and respect for authority) had contributed to social ills such as male labor force participation rates down to Great Depression-era levels, endemic opioid abuse, half of all children being born to single mothers, and many college students lacking basic skills.

I wasn't around in the Great Depression but that does sound feasible.

His nipples get more prominent whenever he's talking to Chris Williamson.

Hot and smart. Love it!

R123 You're sick defending her. She also says Asian immigrants take too many positions as physicians and scientists, AND THEN HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THERE'S RACISM HERE IN THE US! She thinks they should be more grateful they were allowed to study and work here, and they should try to "fit in better" and complain less... Sounds like something Murray would be onboard with.

Anyone featured as Tucker Carlson's "most favourite of special guests "on his morning programme would be right up your turncoat alley.

Wax also believes the "Ivies" need to be limiting Asian students. She has a particularly difficult time with many different immigrant groups from Asia. She is another bigoted hypocrite. You resident conservative trolls adore and fever mediocrity as long as it endorses your racist and limited worldview.

"White Wing" is what i'm going to begin calling you. So elegant, eloquent, and WHITE, WHITE, WHITE!

^adore and revere

R120, and several others here BLOCKED for your audacity to defend MASSIVE RACIST CUNTS!

Is that eloquent enough for you piss-elegant racist queens?

R128.

R114 is a hoot. Talk about pretentious and arrogant.

Watch the attempted brainsplaining: [quote] See the trouble is for the less intellectually rigorous . . .

Oh my sides!

[quote]It would never occur to me to speak for Americans. . It's like Piers Morgan criticising America when he lived here. If you haven't been brought up here, stop selling yourself as an authority on American culture..

Like John Oliver and Trevor Noah

Touche, R132. Oh but they don't count because they say the right thing. Seriously, are people this blind or stupid?

First Principles. An unknown concept for many.

[quote] He constantly uses "we" in the defence of Americans,

Where does he?

R132 Either way, they wouldn't know enough about growing up, and living a Black American experience either, if they're wading into such territory. I wouldn't know, as I don't happen to follow either one, yet at the very least, Noah IS BLACK, so naturally that gives him a bit more credibility. Are comedians really a fair comparison to Dropped Pie Face Murray though?

If you cannot see the irony and the inherent problems of Murray claiming old racial wounds in Americans have healed long ago, you're missing a few screws and fasteners up there mate.

Hardly any of the people here are talking about Murray; most of them seem to just want to talk about themselves and their personal issues. They're looking at their relatively small issues while Murray's looking at the big issues.

[quote] If you cannot see the irony and the inherent problems of Murray claiming old racial wounds in Americans have healed long ago

That's not what he says. He's saying that racial equality has massively improved in the past 50 years, which is true, but that the extremists portray the US as a racist hellhole where nothing has changed, which is not true. He acknowledges that there are still issues that need to be addressed.

R136 exactly, which is why most of them are "paraphrasing" what Murray said with their own imagination, then arguing about that imagined absolute statement he didn't make, like "racism doesn't exist" or "there are no white supremacists".

Someone needs to add a controversy tab for Alok's self-edited Wikipedia page. Perhaps referencing his pedo remarks.

R139: it has been immortalized for posterity, complete with Alok’s rather fetching bouffant wig

R137 You must not have watched all the videos, as those are his words VERBATIM, Sir. We (the woke, the progressives, and the "race hucksters") are ripping open the wounds of slavery, which healed long ago...Stop lying your arse off here, as you are in effect making me out to be a liar in turn.

I know what I've read, as well as heard straight out of Murray's mouth. He said essentially the same thing three years ago in a discussion with Jordan Petersen.

Watch the videos please, before you tell me more lies.

"We" does not equate to Americans.

[quote] the woke, the progressives, and the "race hucksters"

Unfortunately, those are always grouped together.

[quote] the progressives

These so-called 'progressive' people can never define what this label means.

They just use the term "progressive" to insult people who don't agree with them. They're just full of shit as usual. Like the fascistic totalitarian Antifa pretends it's antifascist.

People who have been progressive and liberal all their lives are now being called conservative and even right wing LOL.

They probably claim they're "on the right side of history".

An absolutely meaningless expression which, again, they refuse to define. I bet they've never read any Arnold Toynbee.

[quote]Why would I read something from somebody who comes off like a right-wing crank?

As a matter of fact, R106, he is.

This article about him clarifies why the right-wing trolls here are pushing him.

R147 I love your posts, Dragon. I don't see what anyone can defend about this shit-stain on humanity..

You have very high standards, R148.

You are a meticulous yet passionate perfectionist.

R147, anyone who calls Murray right wing has no idea what that means. Not in standard terms and not even in today's terms. He is conservative on many issues for sure but there is a difference between conservative and right-wing and if you don't realize there is a difference then you're just uninformed and wasting everyone's time.

[quote]there is a difference between conservative and right-wing

Even if that were the case, which it really isn't, Murray is still a right-winger. Xenophobic/anti-Muslim? Check. Supports Brexit? Check. Pretends it's the left which is intolerant? Check. Denies climate change? Check. Downplays the threat from right-wing authoritarians? Check.

R150, it's you who are wasting everyone's time, trying to pretend Murray is something other than yet another far-right ideologue.

Furthemore:

Actually genius, it's because he's hot. Your brain is so addled with conspiracies you're seeing trolls everywhere.

R153 IF you like dropped pie face!

His face is fine, you just call everyone that if you don't like their politics. It's not clever or interesting and is transparently obvious.

R155 Again, enough with your petty complaints, and foolish assumptions. I've only called out a dropped pie face once before here, and that was Brian Williams, so keep lying, you simply make yourself look even MORE foolish, (if that's even possible).

R156 Sure, we all remember how you kept using it for Logan Paul too, but that never happened, right?

Your over-the-top reaction to a mild comment shows you have some mental issues. "KEEP LYING, YOU FOOLISH LOOKING PERSON!" I'm guessing you have been called out about it before cause you seem a bit hypersensitive.

R157 I haven't a clue as to who this Logan Paul even is. It must be fun pretending to be a Swami Visha! I KNOW everything about every poster!

Back to the drawing board troll.

R157 BTW, who is we exactly? Do the voices in your head all have their own alters?

Shrieeeeeeeeeeek!!!! I'm not bothered! I'm not bothered!

R157 Is Logan Paul another insufferable Neocon you fantasise about when you have a wank? Post some pictures of him, and I'd be more than happy to oblige you whether or not he too has dropped pie face.

Logan Paul is, amongst others, an earthy blond beauty

Shrieeeeeeek!

R163 So that's your brilliant jew tactic here, sign my last number, with silly words a child would utter?

Are you the cunt who's keen on typing Squee!!! and Squee Adorbs here? Because I'm detecting quite a cheesy pattern with these.... Not bothered here; I simply hate your kind. Always have, and I always will... ESPECIALLY GAY CONSERVATIVES and GAY NEOCONS. You're remarkably daft how you identify with such lowbrow, morally and ethically bankrupt people. Tell us again how HOT he is, you stupid cunt:

^new tactic

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

It's bizarre - and again, quite telling about your mental state - how many false conclusions you are reaching from virtually nothing. Seek help, r164!

R167 You're the stupid cunt typing actual baby talk here, and fawning all over this dope like a sixteen year-old little girl. I think it is YOU who is in need of help. Read the first two thirds of this thread, dumbkopf. I'm certainly not the only one who loathes Murray. You're simply a hopeless fanboy or fangurl.

You're suffering a heady case of Limerance, and Murray is your Limerent object. This happens quite frequently to young adolescent girls; if they can come out of it, you can as well. All the best wishes for your success.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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[quote]R153: Actually genius, it's because he's hot. Your brain is so addled with conspiracies you're seeing trolls everywhere.

𝐴𝑛𝑑 a new sock account (R153 /R155 /R157 /R160 /R163 /R166 /R167 /R169) takes over, desperately trying to divert from the subject's far right politics.

[quote]R164: So that's your brilliant jew tactic here, sign my last number, with silly words a child would utter?

You're not helping here, R164, by engaging in a lively exchange with the troll, validating the new approach by arguing the subject's attractiveness, and helping place post mileage between thread end and the relevant sources. You're responsible for, like, 48 of this thread's posts.

And what's with the sudden anti-semitic quip? You're making it difficult not to suspect that you're just a sock pretending to be opposition, helping drive the thread along, friendly comments towards me notwithstanding.

R171 I love how you think you're doing something by posting the links to my various posts in this thread, which were all obviously from the same person and weren't trying to pretend otherwise.

You're as nutty as the anti-Semitic guy: Conspiracy everywhere! Only one person is disagreeing with me ever! All who disagree are right wing zealots! Wait, anti-Semitism? You must be a plant too! Plants and bots and trolls everywhere! Aieee!

R171 That was a typo...I'm actually Jewish. I've made the same cringeworthy typo here before since purchasing a new phone. I corrected for it at R65. Sorry you think I'm a troll Dragon, as I enjoy reading your posts. A thousand apologies to anyone I've offended here, with that typo. I also don't have sock accounts, only this one.

I need to train my sausage fingers better.

Fair enough, R173. It's good to hear some humility amongst all the childish abuse in this thread.

Douglas Murray excites so much passion!

[quote] —sometimes a typo is just a typo...

And sometimes it's a Freudian slip.

R184 it's caused by him being hot and some people pretending like he isn't, and bending over backwards to ignore the cognitive dissonance because they simply cannot admit someone they disagree with politically is attractive, or has any good qualities whatsoever.

R172 Kindly fuck off you stupid troll. You've got some nerve calling me "antisemitic guy"... all for a bloody typo. (which was corrected in the next post)

Before my embarrassing typo, I already said I was Jewish @ R99, when asked "Who are you?"

R176 You're even more of a moron if you really believe people object to Murray "because he's hot"... he's downright disgusting to me, and your posts cause me to feel very unwell.

R177 yes, yes, we know, everyone ELSE is the troll 🙄

R178 Calling a Jewish bloke "ANTISEMITIC GUY" is the height of trollery, you cunt.

R179 I was referring to what the other poster said about you saying something anti-Semitic. I don't actually read your long rambling rants.

This is par for the course from Murray fanboys however, as their idol doesn't believe non-Christians make good or reliable citizens in Western countries, so there's that!

I can't get past his lopsided, soulless eyes.

R181 yes, or some of us have never read most anything he's written and just think he's attractive and have seen him in a few interviews here and there where he didn't send us fleeing from the room. No, we all must be right wing zealots who agree with every one of his positions.

Although the over-the-top shrieking in this thread has made me want to learn more about his actual positions. For example, his most recent Twitter posts are about how slavery reparations in the U.S. are a dumb idea.

[quote] downright disgusting to me, and your posts cause me to feel very unwell.

R180 I liked you better in your thread where you complained about your Salvadoran housekeeper, and you bragged about wasting food... though you exposed yourself as an entitled and wretched bourgeois cunt therein.

And I'll tell you again, please stop wasting food. Your crass display of wealth, waste, excess, and your passion for abject consumerism, and conspicuous consumption not only only offends your working class counterparts, but your social betters as well.

R185 you are so weird.

I'm going to block you after this because you're wasting my time, but I'll allow you to have the last word.

R186 I would have blocked you already now, but I've reached the limit the system here allows for. Stop responding then you silly cunt!

He's a total hottie in this photo.

And here's a cheeky arm flex.

[quote] I cheered myself up by visiting Leon Trotsky’s house, and the study in which he was assassinated.

Douglas doesn't like freeloading Socialists.

R182 Yes, and I think R4 is spot on... like two completely different people really. Perhaps one side represents his fakery and shilling, and the other is his authentic self. The arch whinging seems it would put off even those who do fancy his lopsided ugly mug.

At least he's stopped with the reddish-tinged hideous hair colour. Still grotty however.

Nice looking, hot body, and super smart. No wonder DL hates him.

[quote]Sorry you think I'm a troll Dragon, as I enjoy reading your posts.

I didn't say that, R173 - it's just the "jew" remark that threw me. I accept your explanation for it.

The Advocate? Another institution that has been captured by the trans nonsense. Undoubtedly for the filthy lucre.

I don't see how refusing to bow to Smith's posturing as a them makes Murray a hypocrite. Fluidity has its drawbacks.

[quote]I don't see how refusing to bow to Smith's posturing as a them makes Murray a hypocrite.

Because Murray is himself 'weaponizing identity.'

No, he is not. He is refusing to allow them to weaponize it.

Trio

Who's the dude in the tight jeans in R198's pic?

No idea, but he sure has nice arms!

R199 You will find him in previous posts up the thread. His name may be Chris something.

R199: it’s Chris Williamson @chriswillx, fellow Brit conservative pundit/thirst trap who, unfortunately, is straight

🥵

Douglas who?

All right-wingers are ugly inside and out.

R205 please, an actual former model like Williamson is ugly just because he's right wing?

You can dislike someone's politics without pretending there's no good qualities about them. They're still human, and when you try to lump people with opinions different from yours into monolithic demonic groups you just end up turning your political preference into a religion, not logic.

You can't objectively say both men aren't attractive, despite the attempt to "other" them into hideous beasts. It's kinda silly that you would even attempt it.

R203: and I like the fact that he calls himself ‘aspiring trophy husband’ in his Instagram bio. Hot AND with a self-deprecating sense of humor?!

R206, yes. I meant what I said.

R208 and as I said, it's silly, because it's transparently obvious you're objectively wrong and are unable to admit to ylthat there can be attractive people in the world that don't have the same thoughts and opinions as yourself.

You're every Twitter poster.

Nope, objectively he's an awful person. Ugly is as ugly does.

Sure, r210 🙄

So I'm supposed to accept other opinions, even when that opinion is that I'm legally less of a person than a straight guy, but you don't have to.

You should look up what the word "objectively" means, r212, before you get your knickers further twisted.

Oh, and while you're at it - "strawman fallacy", r212.

If you support the right you, by default, support the idea that gay people are less deserving of civil rights than straights. That objectively makes you an awful person.

You cannot be a right-winger and not be a homophobe.

R215 and yet none of those assumptions has anything to do with whether someone is objectively attractive or not.

Yes they do. Not everyone is so shallow. Some of us are attracted to more than just skin. Ugly people inside are ugly people outside.

R205 = Doctrinaire

R218 = ugly right-winger.

R217 honestly, you just clearly don't understand what "objectively" means. You keep proving that with your follow-up posts. It doesn't matter how many times you say the same variation of the same thing.

We get it, you don't have to keep saying it!

You are objectively wrong.

I'm blocking you, r221 because you are clearly retarded. And incorrect, too, but you are too stubborn or stupid to admit it.

Okay. That's one less right-winger spewing their stupid bigoted nonsense at me.

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a right winger"

If it walks like a fascist and quacks like a fascist...

Triple triggers

^ Is that gal Chris' squee?

If there's going to be a thread about a Brit author, it should be about the guy in R203!

Red

R202 How can you claim Chris Williamson is a conservative?

R202 He's not. The gorgeous Chris Williamson (age 32) above and in the attached photo, formerly of Love Island, hosts his own podcast Modern Wisdom, and is a club promoter. People are confusing him with another Chris Williamson, age 66, a conservative politician and former member of Parliament.

Murray used to be cute, but seems to have made a visit to Madonna’s plastic surgeon.

R229 I think red just became my favorite color.

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