Have you ever seen the movie SHAFT (1971)?

I remember seeing it. It was gritty, urban tough guy street smarts. The song played endlessly for a year

They say this cat Shaft is a Bad Motha.......

Shut your mouth.

I'm talking about Shaft..

Then we can dig it.

[quote] The song played endlessly for a year

But not with as much heart and soul as this version.

It was mostly about the song. It feels like a grittier for its time TV detective show. It's flat even if the song is catchy and Richard Roundtree is hot.

Yeah, sure... great

a standard detective movie with a black dick. Even the opening scene has that oldest of cliches; the blind newsie who sees everything.

In 1971 the " oldest of cliches" weren't that old

R7 by then it seemed more the stuff of parody

If I remember right Shaft was the first movie to present a black man as the tough, cool guy lead

Sidney Poitier as Virgil Tibbs in 3 films In the Heat of the Night, They Call me Mr. Tibbs, The Organization preceded Shaft as did Jim Brown in The Split, Riot, Tick . . .Tick . . .Tick

^ R9 PS you are wrong as usual

"Tick . . .Tick . . .Tick "

Perhaps you should see a doctor about that tick and you're still fat and unfuckable

I win 😜

You also smell like an old cum stain on your caftan

R7 R9 R12 R13 Lonely girl, why are you stalking me!? I told you I wouldn't fuck your father in front of you no matter how you begged! You are always wrong! You were born wrong! and no amount of trolling nonsense will change that. You not even sick in an interesting way!

I didn't realise this was going to make people so angry. OMG.

^ Sorry, you've met my stalker

Pathetic troll at R7 R9 R12 R13 has no idea what she's talking about. There was nothing new or novel about Shaft just like there's nothing new or novel about her

R15 only those who paid to see this rather dreary film in a theater need be angry.

How does Roundtree's shaft compare to Sam Jackson's?

When you're stalking me, do you masturbate at the same time?

You know you're old when you remember there was a remake.

And then you realise it came out 22 years ago, only 29 years after the original!

One thing I liked about the film is that it had a very sympathetic and proud gay character in that film, especially for that time and especially for it starring a black action hero. I don't remember it super clearly but I think the gay guy in question ran a gay bar and was friends with Shaft and helped him in nailing some bad guys or something? It just seemed pretty progressive, especially for the film genre and the year it came out.

I wanted to see it based on its title alone. But a crime drama? Pass.

Despite what the old drunk said it was a cool movie and very popular at the time. The hit song helped a lot

R20 Saw Jackson and Roundtree interviewed by Matt Lauer so it was known just like with West Side Story that it was a remake.

The making of Shaft doc was really interesting and the jam session with Isaac Hayes and miscellaneous musicians was great. The director Gordon Parks was a multifaceted human being.

R24, did I write that it wasn't known that it was a remake? I don't understand why you responded.

R26 that age has nothing to do with knowing something is a remake

I'm 41 and was about 21 or so when the remake came out and I knew it was a remake.

Um, everyone knew it was a remake. The point of my post was that the remake came out 22 years ago already, not quite halfway since the original, but getting close.

Get it?

No, I don't get it and neither to you R29

'You know you're old when you remember there was a remake' HUH! What does age have to do with knowing that?

You are really old, and it shows. Get some rest.

[quote]'You know you're old when you remember there was a remake'

The remake was forgettable, R30. OP made a thread about the original and then I remembered there was a remake. But, thanks for misreading my post. Mazel.

R31 such convoluted double speak Take a sleeping aid, gran. You're not making sense.

R32, you reference Gig Young, Suzanne Pleshette, and Jerry Hall.

You can call me "granny" all you want, lol.

R33 also reference Truman Capote, Gore Vidal, Shakespeare . . . ever hear of cultural literacy gran? and your post actually supports you wrong-headed assumptions regarding knowledge and age. Keep digging the hole deeper and lie down.

R34, anyone who puts a Jerry Hall reference on the level of Truman Capote, Gore Vidal, and Shakespeare as "knowledge" ... lmao. Okay ...

I do find you calling me "gran" endearing though.

Xo

Also, I like Suzanne Pleshette! I got to know who she is through a syndicated airing of Newhart. You know, the series that came after the first Newhart series, where she shows up at the end in his bed like the second series was all a dream. And, then, I watched The Birds for the first time and saw her in that. Were you a kid when that came out?

R35 You mentioned Jerry Hall, remember gran. And you're still not making sense with you nonsensical equation.

I recommend seeing SHAFT because it is one of the best photographed New York movies you'll ever see. Gordon Parks was the director and he did a great job. The movie is cool and action-y. Unlike, say, The French Connection, a movie that, for all its praise and awards, you might find surprisingly tedious. I still like it but....

R35 is awareness of these various people not knowledge? and where gran did you get that I was putting them on the same level?

R37, no. I put you on my Ignore List to look at your comment history, because you're oddly being a jerk to me.

Maybe you were just commenting on the Jerry Hall thread, but the Gig Young and Suzanne Pleshette references are all yours.

I mean, perhaps we can play nice? But, I can also just keep you on my List and forget about you, if that's what you would like. From your R39 comment, you're making absolutely no sense. So, I think I'll just leave you on Ignore.

Bye.

R35 gran, one can have knowledge of Jackie Collins and Harold Pinter without seeing them as equals. Ever hear of history gran? You know, learning about the past in the present which is why they call it history!

R40 Goodbye gran. You are an old fart!

I guess Shaft (1971) is shown on TCM so the old can relive it and the young can experience it for the first time.

[quote] Have you ever seen the movie SHAFT

Damn right

Across 110th Street (1972) is edgier and more exciting. and it has a great Bobby Womack title tune that Tarantino used in Jackie Brown. Something that R40 ought to realize regarding cultural connections.

R40 Gran, I never said I didn't reference those people but knowing who they are has nothing to do with age. Read R36 They may be dead but are still alive thanks to media.

R38: Are you a fan of Gordon Parks?

[quote]I recommend seeing SHAFT because it is one of the best photographed New York movies you'll ever see. Gordon Parks was the director and he did a great job. The movie is cool and action-y. Unlike, say, The French Connection, a movie that, for all its praise and awards, you might find surprisingly tedious. I still like it but....

I think TFC photography was superb and really caught the look and atmosphere of 70s NYC like no other movie. Strange you don't see it that way.

"Trouble Man" was another blaxploitation movie of the era. SUPERB soundtrack, unwatchably bad movie.

OOOOH..Richard Rondtree!!!!!!! What's not to like.

It's on HBO Max currently. I watched it a few months ago and was pleasantly surprised. The location shooting in early '70s New York City is great and Richard Roundtree is fantastic as the title character. Yes, it's fairly cliched but was groundbreaking at the time for its all black cast with only a couple of whites in supporting roles. And of course the title song is first-rate.

Who's the black private dick

That's a sex machine to all the chicks?

(Back-up singers): Shaft!

Right on.

Cool snap - what's that Madison Ave?

Cinesnatch, before she passed out (loves her some voddie in her Maxwell House), Muriel was slurring. With a crooked index finger, she gestured at me. I donned my vintage WW2 gas mask and leaned in closer. "Give Cinesnatch two gold stars." The soft thud of her head hitting the pillow was music to my ears. It's not easy being a part time caretaker these days. But the pay ain't bad.

R47, Yes, I'm a Gordon Parks fan. He's a wonderful photographer.

R48, My post may not have been clear. You misunderstood what I was saying. I have no problem with how The French Connection was shot. It has a very compelling and gritty urban look. I just meant that the people might be surprised by how gradual and painstaking the pacing and plotting of the film are. The narrative unfolds at a very measured, perhaps patience challenging tempo, that amped up car chase notwithstanding.

Terrific movie wrongly identified as a Blaxploitation movie. It's not, it's a well made, gritty cop flick in the vein of "The French Connection".

No it isn’t on par with the French connection. Not even in the same universe.

R48 Little Murders, Klute, Born to Win, Hi, Mom! The Owl and the Pussycat, Jennifer on My Mind ...were among the many films that captured the various aspects of NYC in the early 70s

"If you wanna see Shaft, ask your momma"

[quote]No it isn’t on par with the French connection. Not even in the same universe.

Uh huh.

Shaft is a terrific crime movie. R56 doesn't like it because it's about a Black man kicking ass instead of a white one.

He didn't say he didn't like it just that it wasn't on par with the French Connection. I'm so bored of boring people constantly calling people racist. They are the pits, as we say in England.

It is a must see! Shaft is amazing! Richard Roundtree looks so damn good, you will wet your panties!

The guy who starred in Black Shampoo is hawter.

R63 John Daniels was hot in Black Shampoo, but hotter than Richard Roundtree in Shaft? I don't think so. Roundtree was not just really handsome, but he was also sophisticated and smart. That made him very sexy! Shaft was the definition of cool.

R61, You're so "bored" with people calling people racist, huh? Imagine how people feel who are sick of having to deal with racism. This may come as a shock to you but some people have been putting up with it literally their entire lives and their parents lives and their parents before them and they're kinda fed up with it. If you don't know what they're experience has been, don't comment on it.

[quote][R61], You're so "bored" with people calling people racist, huh?

yes I am - where it's NOT due.

I've experienced plenty of racism and homophobia - so fuck off, quite frankly.

R66, Kiss my ass. You're definitely lying.