Madonna’s latest unfiltered look

Making silly faces to a song decades old is rather Norma Desmond of her.

Omg. How humiliating.

WHAT THE FUCK HAS SHE DONE TO HERSELF??!

R3- She looks horrible, her face looks as if it's painful. She also looks like a junkie.

I’m genuinely upset at seeing what she’s become. She’s also obsessed with those shitty two minute “remixes” of Frozen (the original was a low-key masterpiece) simply because they are popular on TikTok with da kidz. She really needs therapy and possibly an intervention to stop whatever is happening with her cosmetic procedures. Get help, Madge, please.

She has destroyed herself. Her looks, her legacy. Never did I imagine she end up doing this to herself, not to this degree.

*she would end up doing this*

She looks like she just smoked a fat joint

Liz Rosenberg going away really was the final nail in her public image…ffs.

R9, why did Liz R. go away?

Her lips look SOOOO painful!

Hoe much filler is that?

I love Madge. I haven’t a clue why she wants to look like Pete Burns. She’s always been beautiful, and could have aged beautifully had she not tinkered so much with her face.

Here’s a tip, kids:

If your wisdom teeth grow in straight, causing no pain or an inability to properly rest the “bite”, keep them.

Wisdom teeth keep your face looking much younger as you age. You won’t need cheek implants or fillers. Brush them with a smaller tooth brush and floss all the way to the back of the tooth, and rinse 2x daily. I promise you your face will thank you for it after 50, because wisdom teeth will not allow your face to hollow out, and you can avoid looking like you stuffed all of your belongings in your cheeks!

She should have adopted the full-on Brigitte Bardot "fuck-it" approach to aging. That would have given her the punk cred she still so desperately craves.

Is she on Fentanyl?

I feel bad for her kids. She's begging for a Conservatorship.

Prolapsed anus lips with hemorrhoids. Look what I can do!

^^So which one of those is what's showing in that pic?^^

Her eyes are so unfocused. As a former nurse, that would scare me, especially someone her age. It's not just an overdose that is dangerous, it is accidents, falls, etc.

She is so ugly now.

It's alive!

What the hell has she done to her face?

Whoever is still giving her plastic surgery and fillers should be charged with elder abuse.

Poor thing looks like she's recovering from a face transplant and trying to say hello to her grandchildren.

Lol, R22. Although at this point, it is getting uncomfortable for me to mock her. She is a pathetic mess.

Good God.

It must be killing these former huge stars when current flash in the pans get hundreds of millions or billions views at YouTube and all those mega hits from yesteryears only get a few million views.

She's become a complete Baby Jane.

Remind me again of all those supposed lesser divas who are insanely jealous of this thing?

She's a product of our new disgusting trashy society. No surprise here.

She looks like she needs an emergency antihistamine.

Is she rolling ?

It's alarming when she leans in. My personal space is violated by a deranged bag woman. It's like being on the subway.

R31- OMG! They are stopping the train!!! Why are they stopping the train??!!!

Drake's POV @ R15

Has anyone viewed her new ass? It is planetarily round!

Hey eyelids are yellow. She is really not in good health.

Why are her eyelids yellow and bruised???

R34- That ridiculous ass implant HAS to be painful!

Her bathroom had an entire pharmacy in it. She was already rumored to be a drunk. Now she’s making jokes about how good the drugs are since she broke her hip. She’s also smoking and doing bong hits.

Her fake tits shirt is something I’m sure she thinks is edgy.

Her liver must be getting or already is shot. Just shot. You can get away with drug abuse ti a certain extent when younger, but when you are her age it is devastating to organs very quickly.

1) None of you are under 85? Never heard of filters?

2) Don't post to twitter feeds thinking your dumb story or photo is going to STICK TO THE TOP OF THAT TWITTER FEED!

Gawddamned Luddites!

She looks like some alternative hipster who works at a Venice Beach head shop circa 1994.

R41 is mentally ill.

Freakshow

Her pupils seem pinpointed, she's moving very slowly, and she's doing something very strange with those anal-puckered lips. Hallucinogens?

I know this has been mentioned many times on DL, but seriously, she should be an automatic add to everyone's death pool at this point. Sad last days, indeed.

.......

That looks like opioid abuse.

I think she is trolling at this point.

The yellow eyelids is gold eyeshadow.

She's been replaced by a Russian tranny prostitute.

That weird area of skin on her forehead looks damaged

For every single one of us, the party must end at some time if you wish to keep your sanity, dignity, and especially your health. Looking younger is great, but it means nothing if you are rotting on the inside. She very obviously missed that memo.

One of her eyes has Botox droop.

R53- She looks as if she has had a stroke, and I do not joke about that.

[quote]Her fake tits shirt is something I’m sure she thinks is edgy.

Those look like her real tits. She's showing them off again for some reason.

Sad thing is that the video still has some filter on it, so imagine what she looks like with absolutely no filter?

I believe the yellow eyelids are bruising from recovery from a recent blepharoplasty. You can see the scars, I imagine this is her 2nd or 3rd bleph. The red forehead and skin is probably from a recent chemical or laser peel.

[quote]She’s also obsessed with those shitty two minute “remixes” of Frozen

Thank you! Why is she so obsessed with remixing a song from 24 years ago over and over again?! Is she that out of ideas?

Creepy as fuck. She has dead eyes. Eww.

She looks good.

R60- For a Stephen King movie.

Madonna and Hilaria could benefit from a Social Media Rehab.

Leave Melania out of this, r50.

What a freak.

There is something about OPs post that makes me feel very awkward and uncomfortable to watch.

The bit I find really fascinating about Madonna is her body. When she was doing that performance in the bar last year (caught on iPhone) with the wig on, she looked chunky. Now yes I get that people gain weight with age, but we had always been led to believe Madonna was a fitness freak who ate nothing but health food. Therefore, if her body was going in any direction you’d think she’d be skeletal.

However, for her to get chunky it indicates she’s not the health food nut she’s always claimed to be. Couple this with all the fillers and poisons she’s having injected in her face and it makes you wonder what else she’s been up to this past 35 years!! She clearly isn’t the health fanatic she wanted everyone to believe she was.

R66- Alcohol bloat. It causes water retention in all body parts at her age.

My God. This is just sad.

Madonna is a trend chaser these days, sadly. Fit buff arms are out and curves, swerves, tits and big asses are all the rage. She is chasing Kim Kardashian, which is in and of itself very depressing.

Something, r65? How about everything?

3D House of Botox

Sad last days.

Rocco and even the maligned Lourdes were smart to get out of dodge as soon as they could. It's rare you see either of them in any posts.

R73- Actually, I have no respect for the fact that they haven't tried, to my knowledge, to help their elderly mother.

It is a filter- there's some interference with the vid shortly after it starts. It's also why she's moving slowly, so as not to interrupt and blur the filter.with rapid movement. It's the same one she uses to give her that inverse teardrop shaped face, because it's not like that in real life.

R75- She looks bad, very high and unhealthy.

r76 Yes for sure.

What are you people talking about? I think this season of The Walking Dead is fantastic! I love this new character.

Is that the Child Filter?

R75- Ok, so you think it is healthy for a senior citizen ti be abusing drugs, alcohol, and plastic surgery?

To be.

Mulder and Scully are on the case

Jfc! R82, lol. I was startled!

r80, I was referring to OP's title. And she still looks like shit.

[quote] I think she is trolling at this point

Totally. In her mind all of this makes sense and she’s having a laugh at us plebes.

The jealousy and ageism here is off the charts.

I--I mean she--looks fabulous.

As far as her adult children go, ask yourself this: If you were making an absolute embarrassment of yourself, your legacy, your health, at your tender old age, would you want someone to help you or allow you to continue your debasement?

She’s only 63, by todays standards that’s not very old. She and that face could have a long way to go yet!! If she looks that bad now what the hell will she look like in 10 and 20 years?

To bad she and Melanie Griffith had that silly fight after they took the potion and then drove the mortician husband away! They are left spray painting each other and are steadily looking worse!!!

Public debasement

When your inner narcissist drives the brain bus

R88: But Madonna is mentally ill.

Jocelyn Wildenstein territory

Her brother Christopher is the only one who can save her.

A Zoom audition for a remake of "EYES WITHOUT A FACE."

R93-. 😳 Wtf happened to him?

I believe him.

The page won’t let me read r93. Anyway care to cut and paste?

There is something seriously wrong with her. All the bottles of pills in her bathroom were a tip off.

Her teeth are crooked and yellow. Gross.

Is she in a nursing home?

Jesus.

In his 2008 book, Ciccone told how his sister was bossy, sweaty, moody and, above all, mean.

Both still deeply scarred by their mother’s death in 1963, Madonna had brought Ciccone to New York and employed him — but also demeaned and underpaid him and, he claimed, even outed him as gay on television.

Reflecting on the row, Ciccone says: “When I got back to LA my 500 acquaintances suddenly turned out to be four friends. She’s quite powerful in Los Angeles, in the industry. I was working in the industry doing music videos and tours and it was difficult to get work, if not impossible.”They’ve just reconciled after a bitter feud kept them apart for a decade since he wrote an explosive bestseller about her, but now Madonna’s brother is doing it again.

In a fiery new interview, Christopher Ciccone has accused the pop queen of blacklisting him in Hollywood — and says he could have written another tell-all book about just how “horrific” she is.

His fresh blow comes nine years after the publication of his b—hy bestseller, “Life with My Sister Madonna,” which destroyed their relationship.

In an exclusive chat, Ciccone, who for years was her backstage dresser and show designer, said: “I could have written that book, the book about how horrifying she is or can be, but I didn’t write that book. I was just looking for a little recognition for the work I’ve done for 20 years with her, that it wasn’t one person.”

R43's IQ is lower than Madonna's age.

R43- Hi Madonna!

Agree, r101! That’s some serious batface going on there! Fuck, she looks bad. Like someone up thread said, “Pete Burns territory”.

Wow.

R43's hilarious and incisive repertoire on DL is asking "is so and so is white". Laugh Riot!!!!!!! What makes it so funny is R43's OCD repetition.

You’re a peach r102. Thanks.

Christopher is as delusional as his sister is. He’s not blackballed just because no one wants to hire him.

Let's post random pics with no date of them. They're all relevant to NOW, when you have the information and visual literacy of a pinhead.

Date of R102 FRESH FRESH gossip = 2017. The last time R102 saw a dentist.

Christopher is a druggie and a Trumper. He even supports Kim Davis.

R97- I am sorry dear. It will not allow me to post. It kicks me off the DL page.

You’ve got to love Madonna for the sheer effort she must go to having her grey roots coloured black every 10 days to try to convince us all she hasn’t got any white hairs and simply needs her natural dark hair touched up!! That’s a whole level of vanity unseen before!!

R108, r109 needs to understand that this is an English-speaking forum.

[R43]'s hilarious and incisive repertoire on DL is asking "is so and so is white". Laugh Riot!!!!!!! What makes it so funny is [R43]'s OCD repetition.

Please put the pipe down.

I don’t think it’s alcohol abuse . I can definitely see drinking a bit and using X to help with the delusions and numb her in a “ content “ way

A person online who’s close to her inner circle just confirmed that everyone has been concerned about her non-stop drinking. This has been going on for years now.

The thing about Madonna is that she was always known for her clean living, no drinking, no drugs and obsessively working out. Was that all bullshit?

R117 Well, duh!

She has polystubstance abuse. She is on weed, opioids, and alcohol. Probably benzos as well. She is really a hardcore addict now.

I would also like to know when she started abusing drugs. Was she using all along and just being a phoney hypocrite about it?

R117, no, I don't think it was BS, but it absolutely started changing when she and Guy got together. They started going out and getting drunk together and after their split, she has taken drinking and drugs to a whole new level. It's so weird that the past 25 years or so have been done backwards. She sent from a reborn Hindu or something to a faux English woman to embittered divorcee to an aged, drugged out alien. Things would have been so much better if she did this backwards (or not at all).

Jesus Christ this has been talked about a million times R120 R117. We don't know for certain why she started abusing drugs and alcohol but the best theory is that she's been using them to numb the pain from injuries from being professional dancer all her life. She was definitely a health nut for many decades but people change.

Frankly I've seen women get into alcohol and drugs more often in middle and old age then when younger, usually from depression at getting older.

I think Madonna really never has gotten over Guy leaving her and demeaning her publicly the way he did. I do not and have never liked his homely looking ass. I think he was cruel to her.

Other people theorized it was when she had her accident riding or jumping a horse. Had to look it up- it was 2005, and she broke 3 ribs and her collarbone.

R124- Probably so. She would not have the strict monitoring others have because of her money and fame. This is where things go tragically wrong.

She used to be good at hiding her insecurities. Not surprised this is how she ended up. I loved her music and many of her songs are pop classics. During my teens, I thought her rebellion had a point. By the time I was twenty, I saw that it was just for attention. A copycat poseur, she's always trotting out a new persona instead of being authentic. She turned out to be an arrogant narcissist who has been propped up by many people.

They say celebs stop maturing at the age they became famous. Her brother's book suggested it. He mentioned that at parties Madonna would hang out with youngsters and avoided all the older people who wanted to talk to her. Her development arrested at 26. She wants the admiration of Gen Z. A sixty-something shouldn't care that much. She never matured, never developed the inner resources to handle ageing. Surrounded by sycophants, she's like a delusional Norma Desmond (as R1 wrote).

That is definitely a filter, it messes up when she moves her hand in front of the camera, and there's a second glitch just after that.

She's an old lady moving slowly while watching herself on camera to make sure the filter works right.

This reminds me of seeing Elizabeth Taylor back in the 1980s and 1990s, when she looked really good but was taking careful, tiny little steps when she walked, and sounded like a little old lady even when she was still in her 50s. Madonna has been acting the same for a few years now: slower, a detached demeanor as if she's not quite sure what's going on around her, maybe a little confused.

And a lot high.

Oh yeah, definitely high. Remember early in the pandemic when she holed up in her bathroom and posted a video from the tub? She was 30 lbs thinner and had about 50 prescription bottles on the counter in the background. She has declined quite a bit since then.

It looks like if Silvio Ciccone decided to become a tranny hooker.

To be fair, Elizabeth Taylor had a little old lady voice even when young.

R131- Very true, she really did.

Fair enough, I withdraw my comment about Liz's little old lady voice.

R97, here you are:

Madonna’s brother still thinks she’s ‘horrific’ By Dan Wootton, The SunAugust 3, 2017 | 9:12am Enlarge Image Christopher Ciccone and Madonna Christopher Ciccone and MadonnaReuters / Getty Images ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED BY:

Here's what we know about Madonna's expanding brood — including new twins Stella and Esther Madonna bans worn knickers and hairbrush from being sold at auction Madonna beams at opening of new hospital children's wing in Malawi funded by her charity They’ve just reconciled after a bitter feud kept them apart for a decade since he wrote an explosive bestseller about her, but now Madonna’s brother is doing it again.

In a fiery new interview, Christopher Ciccone has accused the pop queen of blacklisting him in Hollywood — and says he could have written another tell-all book about just how “horrific” she is.

His fresh blow comes nine years after the publication of his b—hy bestseller, “Life with My Sister Madonna,” which destroyed their relationship.

In an exclusive chat, Ciccone, who for years was her backstage dresser and show designer, said: “I could have written that book, the book about how horrifying she is or can be, but I didn’t write that book. I was just looking for a little recognition for the work I’ve done for 20 years with her, that it wasn’t one person.”

In his 2008 book, Ciccone told how his sister was bossy, sweaty, moody and, above all, mean.

Both still deeply scarred by their mother’s death in 1963, Madonna had brought Ciccone to New York and employed him — but also demeaned and underpaid him and, he claimed, even outed him as gay on television.

Reflecting on the row, Ciccone says: “When I got back to LA my 500 acquaintances suddenly turned out to be four friends. She’s quite powerful in Los Angeles, in the industry. I was working in the industry doing music videos and tours and it was difficult to get work, if not impossible.”

Enlarge Image Madonna and Sean Penn Getty Images for J/P HRO But Ciccone reckons Madonna has lost her way without him and says he is barely able to watch her live shows now because she lost sight of what her fans want.

He said: “Her performance lost its theatricality to me and lost its connection to the audience. That was disappointing. How many tours have there been since ’94? Five? It’s difficult to watch them because I know what she’s capable of. It’s all screens and projections and Kabbalah and all this other stuff that the audience doesn’t really connect to.”

In his book, Ciccone also wrote savagely about Madonna’s sexual partners — actor Sean Penn was “intense,” former personal trainer Carlos Leon “thick” and Brit film director Guy Ritchie “a poser.”

He adds: “I haven’t spoken to any of those guys and nor do I wish to. There’s not a single word in that book that isn’t true. If it hadn’t been, I’d have been sued.”

But in a show of solidarity, Ciccone backed his sister over Lady Gaga, who he called a “court jester.”

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Madonna flies into rage over 'Blond Ambition' biopic He added: “I have nothing against Lady Gaga, she had some great tracks. I was never a fan of her performances or music videos as I always felt she was ripping us off.” He also shares his sister’s disapproval over Universal’s forthcoming Madonna biopic, “Blond Ambition.”

In April she wrote on Instagram: “Nobody knows what I know and what I have seen, only I can tell my story. Anyone else who tries is a charlatan and a fool.”

Supporting her, Ciccone said of the script: “I read it, it’s utter crap. Number one, I don’t even exist. I’m not even there. Then they got the names wrong, the timings wrong, the places wrong, events incorrect. On top of that, it’s a s—ty script.”

And he insists the siblings have made progress, crediting their elderly father Tony for helping to repair their rift.

He said: “We’ve gotten past that, we talk. I just talked to her a couple of weeks ago when I was at my father’s vineyard. We email each other. Well, it’s passed for me, but I do know Madonna likes to hold grudges. There’s nothing I can do about that.”

Can you post some great gossip from 2009, next?

Wow. Just wow.

I’m in deep denial sometimes because I was a huge stan, but everyone is human. She’s not perfect, nor was she ever meant to be.

But DAMN. It’s difficult to accept that her face isn’t filtered by some APP, and that she looks like this or even close to it.

At this stage, getting hit by a bus would be an improvement.

She doesn’t have any happy “high” moments. She really is a joyless person

It looks like she's had all of her back molars pulled, v-line jaw surgery and then topped it all off with cheek implants. Makes Marlene Dietrich look like a swollen chipmunk.

She isn't dying. Yellow eyelids are just a reaction to the sun.

Heidi Blowfish

Looks like they dragged her from the bottom of a lake, the bitch is bloated.

Can someone please help this woman? Is she in some sort of mental state like Amanda Bynes? She used to know EVERYBODY. Now I only see pics of her with her with her kids or her 25 fuckboy du jour.

When did Madonna turn into Amanda Lepore?

I think she is mentally ill.

How is it possible that every time she posts on social media, she has had yet another procedure done?

Something happened between Rebel Heart and Madame X where she really ramped up the procedures because she still looked okay during RH. But now she slurs her speech and seems in pain. Plus her face looks like it's about to explode.

It's very, very disturbing.

[quote]I think she is mentally ill.

Gee, ya think?! It was obvious in “Truth or Dare” when she laughed after finding out her hair stylist had been raped. She deserves all the bad karma that’s come back to her after all of her years of being a piece of shit. Nobody feels sorry for her.

Of the hour, R143. Cash on the table by the door.

Guy Oseary obviously doesn't give a fuck about her. He manages both her and U2 so it's not like he doesn't have some sway.

R149 Nobody around her is going to tell her the truth and risk being cut off from the gravy train. They don’t care as long as she keeps writing the checks.

Madonna was a heavy smoker for years, so she wasn’t always about good health. That being said, she already said she prefers opioids to weed now on Fallon. I still can’t get over all the pill bottles in her bathroom. I mean, Jesus Christ, woman!

Old whore.

[quote]The thing about Madonna is that she was always known for her clean living, no drinking, no drugs and obsessively working out. Was that all bullshit?

Personally, I don't think it was bullshit. You used the correct word: obsessively. She was doing that for so long, it kinda makes sense to me that when she went off the rails, she went off HARD.

Speaking of Oseary, has she stopped co-hosting that after AAs party? I saw a pic of him and Chris Rock, Deniro, but no Madonna.

What r123 said.

As usual, DLers were correct. I recall the threads here about her wedding to Richie and many predicted it would end in tears- hers- and an emptier wallet -hers.

Richie is younger than her. She was Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered by him. Too bad she didn't have the good sense to keep him as a lover but never have married him.

That terrible backwards fall she had when performing may have sent her over both the physical and mental edge, too.

I, too, am becoming a bit uncomfortable piling on.

In my wildest dreams, I never thought, it would come to me considering refraining from commenting on Madonna an anonymous internet board because I try to maintain a standard of never punching down.

Oseary is the worst.

She’s now busy getting tons of ugly tattoos.

Madonna made a big deal of her quest for spirituality in the 90’s, which spilled over to her music. So was that all just appropriation to be monetized into music sales? She does raise money for charity, but her self obsession/vanity would indicate that she is just shallow.

What I took from Andrew Morton's biography of Madonna is that her first addiction is attention.

Seriously, reading of Madonna's Four Ds on her climb to be among the most famous persons of Earth exhausted me so much I had to put the book away at her divorce from Penn, too worn out to read it any longer. Besides, by then, I pretty much caught Morton's drift.

Her physical and mental prime was the vehicle to sustain her ongoing fix of her drug of choice- attention.

Well, those 3 undefeated bitches: Time-Gravity-Matter endure. But so does Madonna's addiction. Her physical and mental state no longer can sustain her addiction by means of live performance.

INow, she's reduced to the lazy, debasing fame of social media, along with the rest of the masses.

I find it believable that she's transferred a portion of her addiction to alcohol and drugs. That's very common of addicts; not all but some. The tap is dry on one activity. You go to another. Some recovering alcoholics, for example, may be dry from alcohol, but they're sitting at a slot machine all day.

I used to think Tiger Woods fall from the exosphere of fame was the most breathtaking I've ever witnessed. His descent, though was mercifully swift.

Madonna's descent has edged his over to also-ran status but, agonizingly, unlike Woods, it isn't swift and merciful. It's slow and unmerciful.

I hate watching her do this.

I know- Mary!

Insightful comments, Della. She was an icon and I hate seeing her go down this path of self immolation. Destroying her legacy, her face and herself. She can more than afford to get psychological help but I think, in her mind, she probably can’t see or admit there’s a problem.

She needs to get Cindy Lauper's plastic surgeon on speed dial

I actually don’t think there is anything left of the soul she was born as. She’s become a fame machine addicted to attention and refusing to stop.

I do wonder if the Madonna character we all know was an imaginary playmate little Madonna Ciccone created to deal with her Mother’s death. Then over the years the Madonna imaginary friend just took over.

She's become everything she used to make fun of.

[quote] She does raise money for charity

That charity is part of her cult and she gets a tax write off.

That damn filter certainly didn't filter the scars of her blepharoplasty. You can clearly see on her left eye, much less on the right because of some video compression artifacts. The old Madonna would never have let that telltale sign of plastic surgery out for all to see, but she's high all the fucking time now, so why would she give a shit?

She must have literally nobody in her sphere who cares about her. It's quite sad.

Is she still with that sick cult , Kabbalah ? They are more damaging than Scientology in my opinion.

I was never a big fan of hers, but this is just depressing to see. She's going to end up like Prince. Her handlers look the other way at everything.

I personally believe her clean living routine in the past was not an act. We would have heard some stories back then if it weren't. But clearly something has changed, and not for the better.

Drugs and alcohol help keep reality at bay. They provide a filter around heart and soul

She’s trending on Twitter. They are merciless

The scary part is she may not even remember filming this video.

I guess she no longer has a tale to tell.

She has a tale. The problem is no one is interested anymore.

Pupils are pinpoint size. Is that from the ringlight or something else?

I think she’s trolling us.

R162 Happens to the best of us.

She is one of those people who I thought was really cool when I was in my club going days in the 80's....but you come to learn there is a big gap between what you thought someone was versus who they really were...if she would've called it a day after JUSTIFY MY LOVE, I would have gone to her greatest hits tour every ten years....and while the EVITA/Ray of Light/Confessions projects were also highlights, the last 15 years of her career has been a downward slope and now she seems to have fallen off a cliff.......it is actually kind of depressing watching it unfold.....you almost wish Cher/Bette/Barbra/Stevie would stage an intervention! I don't think she will ever be MADONNA again......she really does seem to have crossed over into Baby Jane/Norma Desmond territory.......

I thought about that too R175 but would she deliberately make herself look bad?

R174, opioids cause pupil constriction

Addictions never goes away but their focal point does move. That's why you usually see former hard core addicts becoming teetotalers, anal retentive about anything and everything they put in their body, only eating vegan organic food with pure mineral water. Madonna is just doing it in the reverse direction: instead of growing/progressing she's withering/regressing.

yes that is what i'm thinking R179. But bright light does too. It could be her ring light causing that.

lol.

Exactly.

lol.

i can't stand Bono, but he was smart to transition into his humanitarian role once it was clear the music was a thing of the past. Madonna hasn't been so smart.

People with huge egos need something to do with their time.

Madonna’s drug is spotlight and we are feeding her supply now

Between the Smith meltdown and this I’m seriously freaked out by these two. Very disturbing shit.

I just realized that she's had a nose job too. I guess since she's not recording or performing and most of the kids are older, she must be colossally bored, and fills up the empty time with drugs and surgery.

She's starting to look like Liza, post stroke.

Q- What do you get when you cross mental illness with lots of money?

A- Madonna

I think it was a combination of her divorce, the falling out with Rocco drama, Liz Rosenberg retiring, turning 60, the fall on stage/injury all of that has led to…this. The Pete Burns side by side is uncanny, gods sake.

This.

The sad thing is her face is permanently destroyed now.

It’s sadly looking more and more like she’s not far off from joining her fellow pop greats MJ, Whitney, Prince, and Elvis.

Could she be doing the consta-surgeries for the opioids? I suppose she probably has flunkies to get her drugs without an rx though.

1 day apart in age. I'm just saying.....

i was just thinking of her today, r196!

R4 She is a junkie

Pray for Madge

Nah, we’re good. She can pray for herself, which I’m sure she does since no one else exists in her little old delusional world.

[quote] it makes you wonder what else she’s been up to this past 35 years!! She clearly isn’t the health fanatic she wanted everyone to believe she was

Just like Prince.

Why did she jump on the Kim K bandwagon? She's obviously copying that look as are too many celebs.

She's obviously either on drugs or very mentally ill.

Madonna is such a train wreck now. She really should have maintained her air of mystery and remained dignified, staying above the fray of Social Media, but instead she threw herself into the mosh pit with all of the D-listers and went whole-hog.

The plastic surgery just isn't good at all. With her money, she should have been able to get better work, but it's probably too late to get some of the bad work fixed.

I agree with the comments about alcohol bloat and other, more sinister addictions possibly playing a role. She used to live quite "clean" and always seemed in control of her destiny, but she is constantly seen drinking and smoking blunts in her videos on Social Media. I suspect there are opiates involved, and probably they have played a role now for a few years. Unfortunately, it reminds me of Prince and MJ and how they went out. Hopefully it isn't too late for her to turn it around.

Did this decline worsen after the Madame X tour? She was in pain a lot of the time and was more than likely using opiods to get through the show. To think that was two years ago. The pandemic has done a number on my memory. Two years ago, I can't connect the dots between the present and April 2020. It's an ethereal blur of weirdness, misinformation, trumpism (sic) & hopelessness.

R112, I never realized that! She could be an anomaly who never went gray, but it’s unlikely. I do feel sorry for her, she seems very gone, even if she is half trolling.

R204, I would say the decline steepened during and after the Madame X Your, yes... Both in terms of looks and behavior. Look up pictures of her from as late as 2015 or so and she looked like she had definitely had some work done, but it was still within the realm of good taste. But it accelerated thereafter, and spiralled into the mess she is today. The behavior has also become quite erratic, unless that was her intended persona on Social Media (which I doubt). If it was, it's ill-advised, at best. Her behavior in most interviews the last few years (Graham Norton, Tonight Show, etc.) have been prime examples of how to alienate everyone, including former fans.

You have to add the Kabbalah cult influence. It causes insanity

She looks like Xipe Totec, our Lord the Flayed One.

R205 She’s naturally really grey. There are some photos of her from about 10 years ago (when she had that nicer, more beige blonde hair) where you can see a centimetre of grey regrowth along her parting. The irony is, for someone who has always faked being blonde, going grey makes creating blonde hair really easy. I feel sorry for her poor colourist as painting those grey roots black every 10 days will be a chore, but nowhere near as painful as having to lighten the black out again on the lower root sections to get it blonde later on.

It’s just the height of vanity to spend huge amounts of time attempting to convince people your hair isn’t grey, by painting in dark roots and then keeping the rest of the hair blonde! She must have nothing going on in her life these days.

It's hard to wrap my head around the fact that the woman in that video is close to being a billionaire.

I love that even Reddit found it cringeworthy. Of course it is, but I don't typically see her content over there (outside of her subreddit, which I'm sure exists).

When is she gonna stop showing us repeated close-ups of her ass, like here, and film her latest face instead??

Madonna doesn’t care if she is humiliating herself. The drugs help with that

She had a hip replacement last year. She likely was in a lot of pain for years. Remember when she got fat? Probably because she couldn't exercise without being in pain. I suspect she concocted the entire Madame X persona and music vibe so she'd have an excuse to not do the rigorous type of tour she and everyone else was accustomed to.

Kill it with fire!!!

It's funny/sad how people say she is the last living mega icon of the '80s but hasn't succumbed like Prince, MJ, George or Michael but her decline has been evident for the last two or more years.

Personally, I think she really started to go off the deep end near the end of the Rebel Heart tour. She was coming on stage later and later. She had the issues with Rocco and then there was that weird clown show.

The plastic surgery has gotten worse since then.

It’s quite unbelievable that her main peers, MJ Prince and Whitney are all gone. I never liked her, but I wish her well. I’m definitely not rooting for her demise.

OMG I forgot about the Clown Show.

Madonna without a doubt is the biggest artist in music history. I haven’t never seen anyone this famous ever. So sad to see her desperately chasing the fountain of youth

No, Michael Jackson, The Beatles and Elvis were bigger than Madonna. But Madonna is absolutely the second biggest solo artist ever. And by far the biggest female artist.

That should say THIRD biggest

R162 "She's become everything she used to make fun of".

Yes, and it has been very difficult to watch.

I think that Madonna truly went off the edge during Rebel Heart. Della has good insights - it was Rebel Heart where she started drinking on stage, taking tequila with her on interviews like Howard Stern and Jimmy Kimmel. It was also during the time of that awful fall which just look painful, yet Madonna soldiered on. I wouldn't be surprised if she is on meds simply as pain management. Also, wasn't Rebel Heart when Rocco ran away and never looked back? She was crying on stage and such.

I remember seeing the "Tears of a Clown" performance on YouTube, which was like a precursor maybe to Madame X, where she was telling jokes and drinking in Australia. Oy

Kill it! Kill it with 🔥 fire!

R220 I respectfully disagree. They are deemed to be bigger because we are living in a man world where men are much more respected than women. Their album sales might be bigger but her name and tour sales always overshadow their achievements

[quote]She's become everything she used to make fun of.

That's KARMA, baby.

[quote] It's funny/sad how people say she is the last living mega icon of the '80s

Ahem…

I said "mega" Jabba.

Although Janet's fat ass is mega.

[quote] I said "mega"

Ugh, I should’ve known it was your pathetic HAGdonna-stanning ass.

Janet had two influential record-setting multi-platinum ‘80s albums - one of which still retains the record for being the only album in history with seven top 5 Hot 100 hits, she still holds the record for biggest debut world tour and has toured the world over, is one of the artists with the most top 5 hits, has an Oscar nomination, ten Hot 100 #1s, multiple #1 albums spanning four decades, has logged more weeks at #1 than any other Jackson family member, and was the highest earning recording artist in the world during the ‘90s not once but twice. So yeah, she’s one of the mega ones.

And you will deal.

Quote: Also, wasn't Rebel Heart when Rocco ran away and never looked back? She was crying on stage and such.

I can not imagine how painful that must have been for her, especially after Guy humiliated her and took her money. I loathe him.

[quote]It's hard to wrap my head around the fact that the woman in that video is close to being a billionaire.

Just goes to show that saying about money can’t buy peace or happiness is true. Almost a billionaire and still miserable as fuck.

[quote] Almost a billionaire

Aaaahahahahaha!!!!

Putting Jabba on ignore is one of the benefits of DL.

R234: Yes, please ignore her. Don't let her derail our thread.

The worst part of her spectacular and disturbing downfall is the fact that she insists on forcing the world to watch.

I normally can't stand when DLers pile on to other posters but the Janet stan is truly annoying.

Give it a rest already. Lady Gaga is way younger and she’s 10 times uglier than that.

For R234, R235 and R237

R237 And the Janet fans of course make everything about race. I belonged to a Janet Jackson Facebook group and I had to leave it because the other members were so fucking toxic and racist.

[quote] And the Janet fans of course make everything about race

😂You don’t even lie well.

I wish she could just allow herself to age and enjoy it. She has a long career and should be proud of most of it. She’s destroying her legacy.

Madonna could learn a thing or twenty from Janet about aging gracefully without being attention-starved and desperate.

The only thing that helps Janet stay relevant nowadays: MENTION MADONNA NAME EVERY CHANCE SHE GETS

Jfc! Start your own thread about JJ. This thread is about Madonna.

Remember when she was a human?

Despite over-exercising and looking gaunt for much of the late 90s and 2000s, she still had her original face (as exhibited in the '94 Letterman clip) until around 2008. I think she had a brow lift of some kind earlier, looking back at her super smooth forehead in photos circa 1994 (before Botox was commonplace), but the facial tweaking began in earnest in '08. It went off of a cliff after Rebel Heart.

She definitely got another blepharoplasty. There's going to be no more eyelid skin to remove but I'm sure she'll insist she needs another one.

R248- Her face looks like it is so painful now. I can't help but cringe at thought of more PS or fillers on her face. That has to be extremely painful at this point. She must be numb to be able to bear it.

[quote]The old Madonna would never have let that telltale sign of plastic surgery out for all to see, but she's high all the fucking time now, so why would she give a shit?

High AND she can't see very well, which is perfectly normal for her age, but she won't wear contacts or glasses (except fake ones when she's pretending to write her autobiographical play at a manual typewriter). Half of the weird faces she makes on these videos are a product of her not being able to see very well.

Yeah, it's like she's volunteered to be some type of scientific plastic surgery experiment. I don't know how anyone would want to go through such drastic procedures. She's obviously addicted to plastic surgery and obviously mentally ill.

[quote]You’ve got to love Madonna for the sheer effort she must go to having her grey roots coloured black every 10 days to try to convince us all she hasn’t got any white hairs and simply needs her natural dark hair touched up!! That’s a whole level of vanity unseen before!!

Like it's hard, R112

Pain pill and benzo addiction, with a splash of gin & tonic, plus a blunt.

Plastic surgery or no, these are now the mainstay of Madge’s social media persona, and to variable degrees, real life.

The divorce from Ritchie really did a number on her, and he was just AWFUL to her.

Madge is a dichotomy. She projects a very strong independent image, but behind closed doors, she wants to be the Italian mom who makes her husband and kids happy.

Not easy to do when your a superstar who is used to being in control, especially when married to a man who was gonna be shitty, no matter who he married at that time.

People worry about their own problems on their own personal perspectives. It’s all relative. Just because it looks great from the outside, doesn’t mean it is.

There’s so much more going on here. But that level of fame can destroy people and these public facing personas are sometimes absolutely like nothing that is shown to us. Lots of celebs fragment and compartmentalize their lives. It’s the only way to keep an iota of privacy and something that belongs to them.

What puzzles me about Madge is that she’s still into the exhibitionism provided due to celebrity. It’s probably a coping mechanism, which I totally get, and hence don’t completely knock her for this.

I hope she is as well as can be expected.

BPD alert 🚨

[quote]She can more than afford to get psychological help but I think, in her mind, she probably can’t see or admit there’s a problem.

Narcissists typically avoid therapy. If they do present for therapy they don’t last long, Narcissists construct a false self and cannot endure anyone poking around to discover what’s underneath it. They’re not the ones with the problem; it’s everyone else who’s wrong/bad/crazy, all those losers who have wronged them and failed to recognize their genius, etc.

One thing I really resent is the fact that the rich have access to so much pain medication while people like me with chronic pain have to suffer. I find it infuriating. Not that I wish her any ill because I do hate to see what her life has become and wish she would get help. But it so unfair that so many must suffer daily while others have unlimited access, enough to abuse, obviously.

[quote] MENTION MADONNA NAME EVERY CHANCE SHE GETS

Sweetie, as someone who often trends nowadays without having to lift a finger, Janet wouldn’t stoop to utter HAGdonna’s name. Janet handles herself with class on social media, while Madonna sticks her enhanced butt in the camera for attention and subsequently becomes the butt of everyone’s jokes.

^ I only have one word for you, Janbot: NIPPLEGATE. NIPPLEGATE, NIPPLEGATE, NIPPLEGATE! Janet Jackson can claim no moral high ground.

Nipplegate? Something closing in on twenty years ago, wasn’t her fault, and was a one-off in a relatively scandal free career? 😂

Stay pressed.

^ No one gaf about JJ. Except your insane ass. Go away and start your own thread.

R233 internet lists her net worth as 800 million.

[quote] Remember when she got fat? Probably because she couldn't exercise without being in pain.

She got fat in 2018. She broke her hip on 2020. She had rolls of fat on Kelly Ripa’s show and even made fun of it.

R261, Forbes debunked that.

[quote] Remember when she got fat? Probably because she couldn't exercise without being in pain.

She got fat in 2018. She broke her hip in 2020. She had rolls of fat on Kelly Ripa’s show and even made fun of it.

She didn't break her hip. The cartilage wore down. That's something that's years in the making.

Can facial fillers fill an empty soul?

It's self mutilation.

R252, as someone who has used those sprays, she makes it look easy. You usually get the spray on your skin and you can see the spray on the scalp. Madonna’s looks dyed.

Madonna has a hole in her heart that goes all the way to China.

R259 Nipplegate wasn’t Janet’s fault? Oh, you poor, deluded love. I’m embarrassed for both you.

who is her plastic surgeon? what terrible work! avoid!

R270- The nipple must have been a racist. 🙄

Tik Tok is tearing into her over this, bet she's loving this.

Having a fully stocked bar in close proximity to the bathroom/pharmacy in her house definitely does not help at all.

Madonna is old enough to be Janet’s mother, and looks it.

You know Jabba is losing it when she starts using exclamation points.

R275 maybe in your trashy hillbilly town girls become mothers at 8 years old, but it's quite uncommon in the civilized world.

^Somebody’s bothered and pressed.

I'm bothered by your inability to add.

^PRESSED!!

Madonna is 70 if she’s a day.

Obese Janet R280 chiming in. Shouldn't you be off getting another nose job and losing another 100 pounds after your 2 month fried chicken binge?

You know they’re desperate when they start pulling the fried chicken jokes from their asses.

Lord, Jabba is posting three posts in a row. Can Jabba how to whittle down her thoughts into one post?

What could one possibly write about Janet that needs THREE separate posts??

Janbot is king and you are ALL his minions.

I wonder if Madonna has any feeling left in her face.

Her video on TikTok has had almost 15 million views in 2 days. That’s crazy

Anecdotal and likely atypical, but I was married and had two children from 1985 to 2005. Other than Rhythm Nation, I can't name a Janet Jackson song. I can name a whole lot of Madonna songs. It's true Madge looks like a freak, but she has a much larger, varied, and better catalog.

^LIAR. Unless you were living under a rock all this time, which likely isn’t too far off a from the truth, but I digress.

Nasty is a pop culture stalwart with its catch phrase “Janet, Miss Jackson if you’re nasty.”

That’s the Way Love Goes and All For You were her longest-running #1s at 8 and 7 weeks at the top respectively and were ubiquitous when they were released.

Escapade was another ubiquitous #1

If you say you’ve never heard of What Have You Done for Me Lately, When I Think of You, Control, Black Cat, Love Will Never Do (Without You) or Together Again, then you’re once again a bald faced liar.

Why are a large segment of gay men on obsessed with women?

I find it its very very strange that Janet fans always bring up Janet name in Madonna’s thread. I rarely see a Janet thread on DL compared with million of Madonna threads created here every day.

There’s no reason to talk about Janet on this thread. You don’t see people bringing up Cybdi Lauper

[quote] Cybdi Lauper

Is she a pop star? From Dubai?

I love Cybdi Lauper. She was the goddess.

Lots of white gay men don’t like Janet because they know she’s infinitely more talented than Madonna and it irks their inner racist instincts. Doesn’t matter that she called them fags in Truth or Dare or married a homophobe.

Madonna should re-do Cybdi's song and call it Ghouls Just Wanna Have Fun. Oh and fuck you Jabba. We all hate Janet.

^Pressed. Forever.

You block Jabba's sock puppets but somehow black cunt still comes back.

She just gets more gorgeous and more real as she ages!

Vadge has been dead for years. That embalmed Gollum like creature is not human.

R295- For you:

I like Janet Jackson but I’m here to talk about Madonna crazy behavior not her.

Janet Jacksons category is forgettable and dated. She's basically a very successful entertainer and a pretty cruddy musician. Also, she appears to be limited in intelligence and she blatantly lies to her fans, about stupid shit.

^Category? The one where she’s in a league of her Oscar-nominated own? I believe you mean her cataLOGUE. The one that is still sampled, remade and referenced today.

Her performance in London was beyond satire: a dumpling of a Berlin housewife who does 'specials'.

r36

R306- To quote Nippy, ' Hell the no! " That looks so painful and gruesome, and I just watched a video of a lathe worker being turned around and round and shook to death when his arm became stuck in the machine. That would take a long time to heal.

Hell to the no! ^

Madonna once had a tawdry glamour. In her 20s, it was fun and refreshing.

At 63...she needs to rethink a few things.

Sad- I wonder what’s wrong with her. I thought she was too confident and smart to go on a self mutilating path.

Charlie bit my finger.

There's nothing wrong with her charlie she's just being the best version of herself.

In 2019 she had a new lift. Her face was pulled so tight it was frightening. That was one lift too many. Madonna is a control freak so of course she wants to control her face, even if that means making herself look like a freak. She simply wants to be in charge. It’s very destructive.

Her face resembles play dough.

Can you imagine the chemicals she’s pumped into her body at this point?

R312, Merry Christmas!

Her next move will be a porn film with her being the only actor.

She probably is afraid of getting wrinkles from sun exposure, but at this point that hardly matters and she would look better with a bit of a tan. She looks as pasty as the underside of a grub.

We need some sun every day . The pasty look actually makes you look older and unwell

The only one of the 80s stars who’s music has aged well is Whitney Houston. She has such a beautiful voice.

She is so fit and healthy we could still be seeing videos like this of her, when she's 80 or even 90 y.o.

Madonna is incredibly in shape and youthful

[quote] She is so fit and healthy we could still be seeing videos like this of her, when she's 80 or even 90 y.o.

Not if she keeps popping opiates like candy.

[quote] Madonna is incredibly in shape and youthful

Also from R322:

Elephants are very tiny.

Breaking your leg is not painful.

Trump is hung like a horse.

Is she advertising a new beauty cream?

She looks flawless.

Yes, it's called Kaballa Cement.

White don't crack.

[QUOTE] Thank you! Why is she so obsessed with remixing a song from 24 years ago over and over again?! Is she that out of ideas?

Because her face is now Frozen?

I had an upper blepharoplasty and I can report, they’re almost pain free. You don’t even get pain meds afterwards. It shaved 10 years off my visage.

Her new look

She’s getting younger and younger every day. Whatever she’s been doing, I want that

She never seems happy

She looks good at r330

Quien es, esta chupacabra?

In all seriousness I do feel bad for her. She isn't trolling us, she appears to be blasted out of her mind.

It's true she has a lot of character flaws but many of these stars do.

I genuinely want her to get it together, leave social media and come back with some great new music that will remind people of the star she was.I hate seeing her descend into madness.

Not until she releases her Showgirls style biopic.

She’s determined to get the face she deserves.

Pulled way too tight.

Yikes.

If a woman off the street walked onto Farrell's set looking like that, lay across his desk, flashed her fanny, people would think she was psycho. But famous people get to be merely eccentric. It's just utterly false in all ways.

I suspect she's on meds for arthritis and joint problems. She's really blown up in the last few years and in any videos where she moves around its always so awkward and stilted. Somethings up with her joints/jhips/back for sure, and that's not unusual for someone who has been dancing for so long.

She has that thing Kathleen Turner has...

Pill popping and alcoholism.

She used to be a trendsetter -- sort of. Now she copies the worst sort of trends, like getting grills? What happened.

I don't care for the round bustier look in the pic at r330, I know it's really popular right now but it doesn't look flattering on anyone.

Does she still have that black boyfriend who was half her age?

She's starting to get into Pete Burns territory.

She marginalizes people of color by using them for sex.

She only marries white people.

She always did fetishize Africans.

Part of her beauty (and yes, I think she was once quite beautiful and unique looking until the plastic surgery adventures began) was that she always had a dash of ugly to keep things interesting. The tooth gap, a gold tooth, bizarre fashion at times, hair style changes, etc. A lot of legendary, high fashion models also have a bit of ugly to them (the difference between Kate Moss and, say, Christie Brinkley). It really worked for Madonna.

She has lost touch with the nuances of this. The grills just make her look like a hideous old witch with rotten teeth, who is trying too hard to fit in with trends that should probably beneath her. The plastic surgery choices also reflect poor judgement along those same lines. Big fat asses are in (thanks Kim K!) so she goes and gets one, which was completely the opposite of the supremely worked out, bounce-a-coin-off-my-tight-ass look she had for decades.

That "third eye" that tells one what they are presenting to the world is ridiculous or unattractive is no longer something she seems to possess. And she used to really have a good grasp on it.

R339, her eyes look so sad

Fat.

Yikes.

Madonna WAS absolutely stunning in her prime

She was cute for sure r354

39 going on 93.

She had glowing white skin which was quite beautiful.

But she always used every trick in the book (hair, makeup, styling, lighting) to approach a certain standard of beauty.

In spite of all that effort, she always looked a bit tawdry.

And that's okay because that was her brand.

Now she looks like she's cheating. And we never expected that from her.

She goes for the ugliest guys . That black is fugly

R356 Good Queef! Why do white girls age so badly? Even though Betty White no doubt had a prune between her legs, she looked way better at 99 than Vadge does now.

She spreads the love of Kabballah.

She is kinder than you.

Chosen.

She needs to chec blepharoplasty k her fat ass into Promises Malibu.

If. Kardashian did she would would follow

Bumpy flight. Sorry. Check her fat ass into Promises in Malibu