Autumn Leaves

I like it too!

Her character is kind of like Mildred Pierce with a typewriter...instead of the pies, cakes, and chicken restaurants

And Cliff Robertson is kind of like more attractive Veda...

Never watched it but Nat King Cole and the title song is everything. Might watch it later tonight.

My favorite scene is where she reads her in laws for filth when they come to visit her husband.

I almost watched it the other day. Maybe will give it a chance later tonight.

R1. Also minus the smell of grease! My mother, a common waitress!

^ also without Lotte the maid

but who needs a maid in this fabulous modern apartment

where a gal can just sit in a lawn chair on her porch without her panties

and catch so much young dick!

Sometimes if I'm not...seeing...you know a man...regularly

I type my name on the walls of Men's Rooms...

"For a good time, call Biltmore-549"

This movie's original title was "The Way We Were"

but they changed it to capitalize on the Nat King Cole hit song

I thought the whole father-in-law/daughter-in-law incest theme was amazing!

Crawford loved working with director Robert Aldrich (who later directed her in "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane"), and she loved this movie.

She felt everything clicked, and the movie was a modest success.

But Crawford felt it was overshadowed and didn't get the appreciation it deserved.

This movie was unusual for the sensitive way it dealt with Mental Illness.

I loved that she was a work at home typist in pearls and high heels. I work from home in my pajamas.

^ She also got fucked by young hot men

I don't know, I felt the movie lacked something...

Maybe a young hot daughter who was secretly carrying on with Burt Hanson behind Milly's back?

What's better, this or All that heaven allows? They seem to be similar

I am. A fan of this movie. She was turning into a parody of herself by this point . However, the acting was excellent and Cliff R was hot! Agree re title song being wonderful

[quote]What's better, this or All that heaven allows? They seem to be similar

Well, perhaps if you look again

You'll notice that only "Autumn Leaves" starred Miss Joan Crawford

Jane was no dyke, and I'm the man that can prove it!

Joan showing what showing what she must have been like at home. After she calls Vera Miles a slut, you want her to do it again. But she has to be Joan Crawford the movie star and start crying after the scene.

Great flick. The scene in which Cliff Robertson bounces an Underwood off Joanie's arm is worth the price of admission.

This movie always makes me crave chicken salad- with no bread.

I agree, OP. I sat on the fence with seeing this film as others have indicated in this thread. However, I can say that I was so glad to have given it a chance after having viewed it.

Crawford really was a fine film actress, wasn't she?

I would have hit her harder{mostly for art's sake}.

Cliff said that Crawford insisted he drop by her home. Upon arrival, Crawford dropped her robe and made him drop trou. Some way to meet your idol. I wonder if she wore her pumps?

R22 I love Joan! She was indeed a fine actress. I love Mildred Pierce, but this movie is great too! The younger man story is wonderful (and they don't make a big deal about it). I think Joan is a little more vulnerable in this role. And Lorne Greene is so good in the role, that I very much dislike him.

I truly looked this movie up because I ordered a great haul from Zabar's-shipped from New York to California, including chicken salad, and it reminded me of the film. I love how they meet and each order chicken salad with no bread. I guess they both looked so good because they were doing low carb before it was a thing.

but evidently Crawford was very diva-ish on/off the set, she was not interested in promoting the film on tour, probably it's because she wanted Marlon Brando to be his co-star bud didn't get him.

Great. Now I'm typing fat. I want chicken salad. Hold the bread, please.

It is a good film.

[quote]Jane was no dyke, and I'm the man that can prove it! - Ronnie

Shut up and sit down, Ronnie.

I'll peg you with my biggest dildo when I'm back from shopping with Betsy Bloomingdale.

Whatever you may think of Joan...

she could wear the hell outta of a pair of 1950s Spring-o-lator mules in this movie

She still had a good figure (even if they used the soft focus on her face in the close-ups)

Darlings,

How wonderful of you to start this tribute to one of my favorite movies!

So encouraging for a mature actress...

This is the only movie role I've seen where Vera Miles played the scheming femme fatale...

in her white halter-top dress

She normally played the more wholesome type

I think the old landlady Liz was queer for Joan...

In some ways, they'd have been more compatible

R30, I believe she was originally supposed to play the role of Judy/Madeleine in Vertigo but got pregnant. Hitch had big plans for her.

Reply 28 cracked me up, until I looked up Spring-O-Lator Mules. Turns out, that's exactly what they were called. The "fuck me pumps" must have been a forties thing?

"Twinkle Toes". Spring-O-Lator... it stays with you!

I am loving this thread.

[quote] What's better, this or All that heaven allows? They seem to be similar

All That Heaven Allows. It's just as campy, but it has a superlative performance in it by Jane Wyman (and a fine small performance in it by Sheila James as her daughter). And it has one of the greatest moments in film history in it: when the new TV set is wheeled out and its screen reflects Jane's mortified face in it.

R30 when Vera went to Europe to film they changed her name to Vera Kilometers.

R6- Millie I have some advice for you-

DROP the Kegels

It's time for you to try the THIGHMASTER

I apologize for misspelling your name Milly.

Joan shows off her 500 pairs of shoes.

R36, that was Movie Studio anti-television propaganda...

The studios were terrified of what TV would do to their domination of the entertainment market, and they were right to be.

Debbie Reynolds said that when the movie magazines would show up to take publicity photos, the studio rep would throw a blanket over her television, so it couldn't be seen in the background.

Robertson was a Columbia contract player (hence the big billing even if he came last). Brando, in those days wouldn't have gone near something like this. It's funny how she got the Ross Hunter treatment without ever being in a Ross Hunter film.

Do I spy Joan sporting a pair of Spring-O-Lator mules?

Crawford was brilliant at reinventing herself.

She helped make the ankle-strap shoe iconic during the 1940s.

But she knew when it was time to update her look.

Her poor assistant. She had to "handsies/kneesies scrub Crawford's floors, bleach her sex toys and scrape gum and crap off of all those shoe bottoms. All with a fake smile on her face, no doubt.

Handsie/kneesie is the ONLY way to clean a floor.

I knew that before I ever met her.

Speed watched it. Nice. Thanks, OP.

your filthy souls are too evil for hell itself.

She's so completely committed to the material, so even if it's only half good it's pretty great.

Joan followed this with the even more sinister The Story of Esther Costello. She was lucky to still be headlining decently budgeting films into her fifties, but to actually get interesting, socially challenging themes is impressive for that era.

[quote] All That Heaven Allows. It's just as campy, but it has a superlative performance in it by Jane Wyman (and a fine small performance in it by Sheila James as her daughter).

There's a slight resemblance, but Zelda Gilroy didn't play Jane's daughter; Gloria "I Married a Monster from Outer Space" Talbott did.

I walk my kitty around in a pair of Spring-o-Later mules...

oh yeah, and sometimes the poodle comes too

[quote]Joan shows off her 500 pairs of shoes.

Amateur!

Yes, Burt may be younger than I am

but there's still plenty of spring

in my Spring-o-Later mules

Go watch Crawfish in "The Damned Don't Cry". It's excellent. Joan is really playing herself in that film.

One of my favorite Joan Crawford films. Cliff Robertson was such a hunk. This needs a Blu-ray release.

Ahh, Cliff.

Never "postcard pretty." But eminently do-able.

I've seen this movie a long time ago. I think was TCM...and liked it. I just watched it again on YouTube. Wow...the performances by Crawford and Robertson are excellent. I'm really impressed with Joan in this. The vulnerability and angst of Millie....you can really feel it. I think this performance by her was better than Mildred Pierce (that was great, too) and deserved an Oscar nod.

Crawford was great in Humoresque, too. I think angst roles were her forte...and does tough very well.

I love Ruth Donnelly in this movie. A scene stealer in everything she's in, and Joan didn't seem to mind. She's great in so many Warner Brothers films of the 30's, and worked into the 1970's.

For once, it's Joan getting a slap down. And she loved every second. She'd already had Cliff, next to her pool cabana.

"All That Heaven Allows" is a much better film, for the poster who asked.

It's also quite campy, but it has moments that are still heartbreaking today: Jane Wyman promising her sobbing daughter she won't date Rock Hudson because her friends are making fun of her, Wyman's horrified expression reflected in the teen of her new TV set when she realizes her family have given it to her to keep her from leaving the house....

Cliff is such a hot little thing in this movie

I fucking loved Sudden Fear when I saw it a couple of years ago

I could still wipe the floor with that bitch.

[quote]She still had a good figure

It's kind of amazing how she was a raging alcoholic for decades yet always stayed slim and fit, and her face never got puffy.

I was underwhelmed, and even frustrated by the ending. BUT...this film confronts mental illness in a positive way for the time, and the ending is integral to that.

It's just a shame Joan never got the help ahe needed. But playing in a movie about mental illness, and actually admitting one has a separate, but similar probem, is an entirely different matter.