Figure Skating Worlds
Can't find an open thread. So I'm starting this. It's weird, but interesting without the Russians. No big loss in ice dancing, just one team. Nice for Knierem/Frazier to win Gold, though the rest of the field was beyond weak. The silver going to the Japanese was ridiculous. That free was a mess.
Ashley Cain's fall was horrifying. This may be it for that team.
Love ladies without the doped-up Eteri bots. It's like a breath of fresh air to see a range of countries in competition. Can't believe Mariah Bell is in the mix. See how long that lasts.
Ilia Malinin should have been at the Olympics. That much is very clear. Wonder if the Japanese men will indeed sweep?
by Anonymous | reply 399 | June 22, 2023 3:59 PM
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The Georgia, Gubanova could end up on the podium at this rate, from 14th in the short programme!
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 25, 2022 8:56 PM
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Tha Loena Hendrickx skate was GORGEOUS
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 25, 2022 9:53 PM
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Well, damn, Alyssa Liu got her triple axel and landed the US a bronze. Sakamoto was on fire--love her speed and fire. Haven't seen Hendrickx's FS yet, but great to see Belgium get a medal. Really not missing the Russian girlss and their fucked-up jumping technique on this at all. Do miss Nathan, but feeling good about Ilia.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 26, 2022 1:14 AM
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I don't miss the cheaters.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 26, 2022 1:41 AM
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Leona's Frees Skate if you haven't managed to catch it yet, R5. The last minute of the programme s beguiling. If she hadn't been carrying that injury and could've been slightly bigger on the jumps, I think it could've been ever closer.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 8 | March 26, 2022 9:21 AM
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Canadian-Danish ice dancer, Nikolaj Sorenson. = PHWOAR
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 9 | March 26, 2022 6:59 PM
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And the Lithuanian, Saulius AmbruleviÄius ain't bad either. The standard of male ice dancers looks-wise is wat higher than the Men';s or the Pairs skaters.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 10 | March 26, 2022 7:03 PM
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Congrats to Shoma for finally getting his gold.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 13 | March 26, 2022 11:10 PM
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What will be Silver Prince Shoma's new nickname now that he has a world title!?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 26, 2022 11:19 PM
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If you'd told me six months ago that the US would win one gold medal at Worlds, I would never have guessed it would be in pairs . . . I'd have assumed it would have been Nathan--who would have won if he'd been there.
But, outside of ice dancing, it was kind of the Worlds of the also-rans and that was kind of weirdly satisfying--Shomo won, Vincent got on the podium again after his truly shitty Olympics experience. There were non-Russians on the Ladies podium. The US medalled in every category for the first time since the 1960s.
There was even some scandal with the ISU announcers (the Brits) getting caught referring to Megan Duhamel as a bitch on a hot mike and getting canned as a result.
That said, I get the sense Duhamel is a bitch--she and Radford were the least connected successful pair I've ever seen skate. It's not surprising that he didn't tell her directly that he was skating with another partner--she found out through social media.
But, honestly--he seems happier with Vanessa James. Or at least they seem to be skating in the same rink at the same time.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 27, 2022 10:43 AM
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R16 every time I see or hear Megan Duhamel, I get serious vibes of Reese Witherspoon's character in Election. One of those hyper-driven Alpha personalities.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 27, 2022 10:47 AM
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I can also imagine Megan raging about the fact that Eric and Vanessa managed to medal.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 27, 2022 10:49 AM
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The women's medal ceremony was so happy and uplifting - total contrast to the Olympics.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 27, 2022 10:55 AM
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Yeah, amazing how much more cheerful things are when the recipients aren't a bunch of drugged-up teenagers with a Cruella de Ville coach.
A number of the female pairs skaters seem really tough--Alexa Knierem and Aljona Savchenko--tiny tough birds who don't mind being tossed through the air, but Megan didn't ever bother with any kind of facade of treating pairs as anything but a purely athletic endeavor. It had to be like skating with your coach, not just your coach's wife. I remember some minor story from when she and Radford skated at the Olympics and he was nervous and she pretty much told him to snap out of it. I guess there's some resentment of James/Radford in Canada, but, honestly, Canada's in such a slump right now, they can use all the help they can get. So strange given that Canada has some of the best coaches in the world.
Camden Pulkinen, meanwhile, who was only there because Nathan Chen pulled out managed to go from 12th to fifth because he was third in the free skate. Was he on anyone's radar for anything?
Wonder just how much the US has been holding backing some of the younger male skaters to keep Jason Brown in contention?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 27, 2022 11:18 AM
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I guess this will be the end of the road for Piper Gillies and Paul Poirier, Such a shame as they never really seemed to reach their full potential. Paul always seemed slightly stiff to me in their performances at Worlds and Olympics. I'm glad they go that bronze last year, just wish they could've pulled out something spectacular this year.
If they continue, even with the G&G and H&D retiring, I think the Italians and the British couple have far more career momentum. I hope they do something special at the gala tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 27, 2022 11:35 AM
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R21, Gilles & Poirier said in their CBC interview that they haven't made a decision yet on whether they will continue competing. Since the Worlds are in Canada in 2024, maybe they will keep their options open.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 29, 2022 10:55 AM
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(R22) thank you for the update. I think they might benefit from a year out to refresh and figure out how to go forward.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 29, 2022 11:07 AM
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Why didn't China compete in Montpellier?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 29, 2022 12:24 PM
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Hubbell and Donohue are retiring, the Russians are going to have a single spot next year. Sounds like Papadakis/Cizeron are sticking around for the time being since they're one title away from the all-time record. There's some room for movement.
I really liked Green/Parsons FS at 4 Continents, wonder if they'll be in the mix next year. Much as I like Hawayek/Baker, I think his petiteness just limits them--they don't skate big.
Gilles/Poirier are always the art-school kids and judges don't love that. Your costume shouldn't draw more attention than your performance. There's a reasonable amount of latitude, but flourescent orange with rainbow details kind of pushes it.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 30, 2022 1:56 AM
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R24, it was never clear. There were rumors that the French government would not allow in skaters who had received the Chinese Covid vaccine. That seems likelier "the paperwork was submitted too late."
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 30, 2022 2:26 AM
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Ashley Cain has posted a weepy, apologetic Instagram, where she says she's had a concussion. It's apparently her fourth one. Reading between the lines, it's pretty clear that this is the end of the line for her skating career.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 30, 2022 8:54 AM
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Hot photo of Guillaume Cizeron:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 28 | March 30, 2022 10:46 AM
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bumping this... because shit's gone down.
Plushenko went to that big pro-war rally that guest-starred Vlad the Impaler himself! So he's pro-war, I take it. Sinitsina/Katsalapov were there as well, not sure there were any other skaters.
Speaking of the missing: Eteri Tutberidze who some think will try to move to the good old USA, her old stomping ground where her daughter was born, and now lives/trains in Las Vegas.
Could she re-work US women's skating like she did in Moscow? Do we even have any raw material? Would Arthur let his darling Alysa train under Eteri?
And will the current Russian skaters ever get a chance on an international stage again? Word is pair Tarasova and Morozov are suing the international skating powers-that-be to force them to be allowed to compete, regardless of Ukraine. Could they succeed, with Lakernik or whatever his name is gone? At least I think he's gone??
Do we have any experts here any more? The times, they are a-changin! Roll on JAPAN and KOREA!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 7, 2022 11:54 PM
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R29, yes, Plushenko and his tacky, tacky wife are big Putin supporters.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 30 | April 8, 2022 2:27 AM
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OMG, I think Plushenko is playing with fire. Will he (and wife who's connected to the Russian mafia?) go down with the oligarchs - though he isn't one. I have a feeling he doesn't have a Plan B like the real monied ones do -- haven't a lot of them already flown out to Dubai and points beyond?
You in danger, you old big-nosed blond gurl - with the trophy wife. Wait, I think he's the trophy husband ??
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 8, 2022 8:05 AM
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I see Anna Sherbakova may be retiring. Only wonder is that she made it this long.
Eteri's evil, but she's not dumb. She may be trying to get the hell out, but I don't see her being interested in Alysa Liu who actually went through adolescence. I'm wondering if she'd be all that welcome in the United States at this point. I'm wondering if China is an option--they're ruthless, rich and like medals. Lots of tiny Chinese girls to exploit.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 8, 2022 9:53 AM
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Not a bad idea. I lived in Shanghai for a year and thought it was great. Weather's probably better than Moscow as well.
I imagine there will be quite a diaspora of Russians thoughout the world, too - Shanghai might be a major destination, since China's been semi-friendly throughout the Ukraine horrors. I'm sure Beijing's ok but I think the pollution is worse there (or maybe I'm misremembering) and I just thought Shanghai was more chic, at the time (2010).
Eteri's from Georgia - maybe that's a possibility? Taking Morisi and her choice of girls who can skate for other countries with her.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 8, 2022 5:36 PM
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"Could they succeed, with Lakernik or whatever his name is gone? At least I think he's gone?? "
Lakernik is still ISU Vice-President for Figure Skating. Congresss is this summer. On current rules, he can't run again because he is too old. There was an attempt to bring an amendment raising the age limit for ISU office holders but it will likely be withdrawn now.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | April 8, 2022 11:24 PM
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R33 A bunch of Georgia is occupied by Russia. Not sure about their current prime minister but it doesn't seem like the best bet, to be honest.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 8, 2022 11:30 PM
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[quote]Sinitsina/Katsalapov were there as well
So since S&K were at the pro-Putin rally, does that mean their competitive figure skating career is probably over?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 9, 2022 10:40 AM
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Another pair couple were there as well, Tarasova and Morozov:
Other Olympic medalists athletes in attendance included figure skaters Victoria Sinitsina, Nikita Katsalapov, Evgenia Tarasova and Vladimir Morozov; cross-country skier Alexander Bolshunov; and rhythmic gymnastic twin sisters Dina and Arina Averina.
And of course, his big cheerleader, Plushenko - who keeps posting videos from his skating school. Let's hope there's blow-back on him as well.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 37 | April 9, 2022 6:47 PM
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Alisa Liu announced retirement today
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 38 | April 9, 2022 7:30 PM
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Aww, and just 16-years-old. But at least she got a Worlds bronze medal.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 9, 2022 7:54 PM
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Alysa, Nathan, Vincent and others have already started their Stars on Ice tour - international again for the first time since the pandemic started.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 40 | April 9, 2022 7:59 PM
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Liu looked burned out at Nationals. Thought it might be COVID, but she's just done. Too damn hard to get a good triple axel and she doesn't seem to want to refine the other stuff.
Did think she might stick around for another year with the Russians being limited, at best, to a spot or two.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | April 9, 2022 10:25 PM
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Video clip of Stars on Ice - it looks like Kaori got a short haircut. Nathan does a backflip.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 42 | April 10, 2022 3:55 AM
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American women are just over. She was one of the few possible bright hopes. Now? Lindsay Thorngren? I mean, there are only the elders Mariah Bell, who can't do a triple-triple to save her life, and the ever-ailing Bradie Tennell. And headcase Amber Glenn, who's already 22.
Roll on Japan and Korea.
Ilia Malinin might save US men. Or he might not. Without Russia - it's all East Asia, and maybe just Japan and Korea.
For the rest? Sad.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | April 10, 2022 5:40 AM
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Oh I forgot Karen Chen but I think, like Alysa, she's reached the summit with her Olympic team medal - and goodbye and off to the Ivy League.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | April 10, 2022 5:41 AM
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I wonder if we'll see some Russians defect to other countries so that they can compete.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | April 10, 2022 5:44 AM
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R44 Isabeau LeVito--just turned 15--third at Nationals. With the Russians out, she's likely to medal at Junior Worlds next week, could even top the podium. Broke 200 points at her international debut. Will have to survive puberty, so we'll see.
Amber Glenn's a beautiful skater, but too many years of being a headcase means the US feds don't trust her to represent them at the big events.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | April 10, 2022 7:32 AM
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Okay, how the hell long is it going to take to strip the doping Russians of the Olympic team title? It should be a very simple task.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | April 10, 2022 3:36 PM
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Hmm, I had a google:
[quote] USOPC CEO Sarah Hirshland said the wait will continue. âRUSADA (Russian Anti-Doping Agency) holds the key for the initial investigation and needs to complete that investigation. WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency) is conducting an investigation of its own,â Hirshland told reporters.
I think we can all guess what the corrupt RUSADA will conclude: Valieva will not be suspended, so they get the gold medal. It's confusing but I think the only way they can be stripped of the medal is if RUSADA itself is suspended again by WADA. RUSADA's last 3-year suspension was lifted in 2018.
Either way, the optics of giving out gold medals to Russia when they've invaded Ukraine are terrible, so the US skaters will probably be waiting a long time for their medals.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | April 10, 2022 4:42 PM
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What has been the reaction on FSU and Goldenskate to Sinitsina & Katsalapov and Tarasova & Morozov appearing at the pro-Putin rally?
by Anonymous | reply 50 | April 11, 2022 9:32 AM
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I want to fuck Nathan Chen till his ass looks like an uncooked meatloaf.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | April 11, 2022 9:37 AM
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Who's gonna try to get tickets to the gayest ice show in the world (take that, Plushenko and Putin!)
Fantasy on Ice starring Johnny Weir, dressed literally like a middle-aged Karen in white tights, white skates, oh lord help us all.
But there's gorgeous Stéphane Lambiel, even hotter Guillaume Cizeron (and what's her name), Jeffrey Buttle, Javier Fernandez and Nobunari Oda. Four Japanese cities, May 27-June 26.
And the piÚce de résistance, the GOAT himself, Yuzuru Hanyu. (try to stay calm, ladies)
Keiji Tanaka, as well, who just announced his retirement, and there have been a couple photos published of him and Satoko doing ice dance lifts hmm. Probably just for shows but after Kana and Dai got together, anything can happen.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 52 | April 12, 2022 7:15 AM
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A better link in case that account posts more stuff at the top - you've got to see Johnny up close !!
Now that Corona XE is in Japan though... well, hope springs eternal.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | April 12, 2022 7:19 AM
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Plushenko's recent ice show started with a fucking pro-war pep rally, upsetting some of the skaters who knew nothing about it till they got there.
Kolyada refused to perform, but the rest did. I think Alexandra Trusova was scheduled to perform but didn't show. But the rest went ahead with it: Semenenko, Kondratiuk, Kostornaia, Boikova & Kozlovskii, and Liza Tuktamysheva, who got on Instagram afterwards and said:
âEverything is a Messâ I really wanted to believe that sports was outside of politics, but today it turned out not to be so. I love figure skating, I truly love what I do â I live it. I want to compete, I want to skate, I want to do new programs, I want to go to ice shows. But I donât want athletesâ performances to become a way of manipulation and persuasion. At a total loss ⊠(comments: âthen she stayed & performedâ; âyou shdnât have, should you?â)
by Anonymous | reply 54 | April 12, 2022 7:44 AM
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Junior Worlds this week
Safina/Berulova from Georgia won Pairs as expected in the absence of Russians. They were top 10 at Olympics
The Browns are leading after the RD followed by the Canadian couples and surprisingly by some Germans. Wolfkostin fell on the twizzles and so Wolfkostin/Chen are 9th, 9 points behind the leaders
Malinin leads Men after SP (89) followed by Chiu and the younger Seleveko (both at 81 points)
Women SP skating right now
by Anonymous | reply 55 | April 16, 2022 10:01 AM
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Thanks R55. Good to hear about Malinin. He should be moving up the ranks pretty quickly if Nathan continues to withdraw from competitive skating.
Can't imagine what Ladies will be like without the drugged-out Eteri bots.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | April 16, 2022 10:32 AM
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Well, will Easter be good to our new Qu0dG0d or however he spells it - or will he fall flat on his face?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | April 16, 2022 7:23 PM
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Levito is something special. She's a young Sasha Cohen who can jump.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | April 16, 2022 8:17 PM
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Hope LeVito can make it through puberty and the pressure to save American women's skating because she has something special. She'd have been an interesting counter to Alyssa Liu if Liu were sticking around.
Man, the Japanese girls sure tanked in the short. The top five are the US and Korea. Japan is 9th and 11th.
And Ilia Malinin pulled it off. Our new quad prince.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | April 16, 2022 8:33 PM
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[quote] She's a young Sasha Cohen who can jump.
I wouldnât go that far. Technique is atrocious.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | April 16, 2022 8:47 PM
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The Browns won Ice Dance
Wolfkostin/Chen went up to 4th but couldn't catch the Canadian couples.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 62 | April 17, 2022 1:42 PM
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I thought the German couple who came in 5th - Grimm and Savitskiy - looked really promising. A particularly dynamic programme in the rhythm dance
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 63 | April 17, 2022 2:05 PM
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Junior Men's competition . Who will be the stars of tomorrow?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 64 | April 17, 2022 3:18 PM
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Isabeau won the ladies' event.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | April 17, 2022 7:58 PM
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Weird thing about Isabeau LeVito is that she has a knack for performing that you don't normally see in juniors, but her technique needs some clean-up work if she's going to make it as a senior. Pre-rotating and shoulder scrunching aren't really the answer. She needs speed. Her spins are gorgeous though and she's so musical that her two-footed skating looked like it was a choreographic choice.
I wish that whomever taught Gracie Gold to jump taught all the American women--ton of air and no underrotation problem.
The Koreans are coming on strong.
I guess Lindsay Thorngren will be the next Bradie/Rachel Flatt/Polina Edmunds--the reliable skater who doesn't excite audiences and wins if the anointed star is underperforming.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | April 18, 2022 6:32 AM
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About Gracie's jump coach - Shoma Uno went to him for a while. He's based in Chicago, originally from Ukraine: Alex Ouriashev.
Not sure I can manage to link the article but an excerpt:
"We were looking for a jump coach," said Uno's mother, Junko.
One of her son's Japanese coaches, Mihoko Higuchi, had been impressed with Gold's jumps and wanted to see if Ouriashev was interested in teaching Uno. At the request of Uno's agent, Koji Ohama, skating agent/impresario Ari Zakarian called Ouriashev to sound him out.
Uno first came to the Chicago area, where Ouriashev has taught for two decades, in the summer of 2016. That would also be the first of the four visits Uno made to Ouriashev last season.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | April 18, 2022 7:52 AM
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Stars on Ice Finale in New Jersey. Jason Brown does cartwheels in the end when they all take their bows. Loud cheers for Alysa Liu. Nathan does a backflip and looks like heâs having a great time.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 68 | April 27, 2022 1:13 AM
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Putin met with and gave awards to Olympians but there was one notable absence: Anna Shcherbakova, who went to Eteri's show instead.
Eteri may be thinking of defecting - the rumor is that she has put her Moscow apartment up for sale and insisted that Z symbols be removed from her show.
Mark Kondratiuk, Nikita Katsalapov, Kamila Valieva, Victoria Sinitsina, Anastasia Mishina, Alexandr Galliamov and Alexandra Trusova met with Putin.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | April 27, 2022 5:17 AM
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Terri is a smart girl. She knows Putin is done and she wants none of it.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | April 27, 2022 6:26 AM
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Eteri likes the US and spends a lot of time in Miami. I would guess that she'd do well. Despite all the allegations you can bet that ambitious parents would want her to teach their kids. I'm not sure if she could get a green card though.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | April 27, 2022 6:29 AM
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Eteri lived in the states - her daughter Diana was born there - and Diana now lives in Las Vegas, I think? (this is her only child, an ice dancer who magically cured her own deafness, no less!) A family with a magic touch!
Though I'm not sure the long arm of the KGB or whatever it's called now can't catch up to her, if Vlad decrees. New Yorkers have fallen out of windows, Brits' tea has been made radioactive...
Good luck, my dear.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | April 27, 2022 6:34 AM
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There's no cure for deafness, only aids. Diana is still deaf.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | April 27, 2022 6:42 AM
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Cochlear implants?
But I take your point. Eteri didn't say she'd had medical treatment that cured it, but it was sheer willpower (or magic, I guess)
Diana's last name is Davis - and I think her father was American? Would that help her in trying to move back to the US where her daughter (and ex-baby-daddy?) reside?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | April 27, 2022 6:54 AM
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Nah, if it were cured (or as good as cured) Diana wouldn't need to lipread and communicate through her partner like that we saw at the Tokyo Olympics.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | April 27, 2022 6:57 AM
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I doubt Eteri has state secrets--other than the extent of doping, but she's unlikely to talk about that. If her daughter's an American citizen (and it sounds like she is), she'll be able to bring mom over.
And, yeah, Eteri could make a ton of money over here--it's not like there's an American coach who's been shown to have a golden touch with American women recently. Frank Carroll is ancient and the Gracie Gold thing wasn't a good look.
But if Eteri is really thinking of leaving, she should do it sooner rather than later--Russia's getting more and more Soviet-Union like. It's going to get harder to leave for anyone who's considered valuable to the state. And Eteri is.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | April 27, 2022 7:03 AM
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New pics of Eric Radford:
#1:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 77 | April 28, 2022 12:17 PM
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That's hot. But why why the lack of dick? (Okay, I do know. It just looks weird and obviously photoshopped out?)
by Anonymous | reply 79 | April 28, 2022 2:02 PM
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Given Vanessa James' last skating partner is in deep doo-doo for sending dick pics to minors I imagine her current partner's dick being plastered all over the interwebs would be a 'twice... shame on me' moment.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | April 28, 2022 4:04 PM
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R80 But.. there's no dick.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | April 28, 2022 4:07 PM
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That's the whole fucking point R81
by Anonymous | reply 82 | April 28, 2022 4:25 PM
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Agenda for 2022 Congress in Thailandia with all proposal to be discussed. They want to reduce PCS to 3 categories: Composition, Presentation and Skating Skills.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 83 | April 29, 2022 9:59 PM
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WTF is Composition and why isn't that the fault of the choreographer and coach rather than the skater?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | April 29, 2022 11:11 PM
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The US SOI looks amazing, then comes along the shitty version in Canada. WTF?
by Anonymous | reply 85 | April 30, 2022 5:48 AM
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Sounds good to me - Satoko !!! Kurt, Elvis, Kaetlyn, Piper and GORGEOUS Paul, Cutie Pie Elladj, Jeffrey Buttle, Maddie Schizas, Weaver and Poje - wish I could go.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | April 30, 2022 7:28 AM
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Yeah - why aren't Vanessa James and Eric Radford at Canada's SOI? Didn't they just win something or other?
And his former partner was furious because she expected that she would be able to do shows with him to make extra bucks. And yet he isn't doing the premiere skating show in Canada with new partner Vanessa? (and I don't remember seeing their name on the many Japanese ice shows this season though they're in need of pairs to add variety - SO many singles.
In fact, one of them, "The Ice" has signed Uno, Chen, Jason Brown, Junhwan Cha, Ilia Malinin, Kevin Aymoz, Vincent Zhou (July) - and another one, "Fantasy on Ice" (most of June) has Yuzuru Hanyu, Johnny Weir, Stephane Lambiel, Javier Fernandez, Elladj Balde, Kaori Sakamoto, Papadakis/Cizeron. And those two are the tip of the ice berg.
Come on, Canada! And does Europe have any ice shows at all, now that the Russians are caput? Well... limited to their own country, like Plushenko's war rally show. BTW, did Semenenko ever get out of the hospital after his horrible double concussion on that horrible ice at Plush's show?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | April 30, 2022 1:49 PM
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Add Satoko and Jason to Fantasy on Ice for the second half of June, in case you're making your travel plans.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | April 30, 2022 1:55 PM
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Article from just a couple days ago about James/Radford. Pretty incredible for them to make the Worlds podium despite only skating together for a year and at the ages of 34/37.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 91 | April 30, 2022 4:20 PM
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James/Radford in Music on Ice in Switzerland earlier this monthâŠ
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 92 | April 30, 2022 5:12 PM
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Nathan Chen and Mariah Bell rehearsing togetherâŠ
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 93 | April 30, 2022 6:17 PM
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Renowned figure skating coach and 1988 Olympic bronze medalist Peter Oppegard was just suspended by the U.S. Center for SafeSport for âphysical & emotional misconduct.â
[quote] Oppegard allegedly bit a teenage female skater on the arm during a 2013 training session, according to the skater, her mother and a person who was present in the rink and said they saw the bite mark immediately afterward. The SafeSport investigation, which began in July 2020, also looked into allegations that Oppegard threw hot water and coffee at skaters he coached on multiple occasions at East West Ice Palace in Artesia, California, where he worked from 2005 until he left in 2018, according to two people who witnessed Oppegardâs actions and have discussed them with SafeSport, and who requested anonymity for fear of reprisal.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 98 | May 7, 2022 3:04 PM
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Oh my, Safe Sport just jumped right on those complaints against Oppegard, didn't they? Gotta protect those kids from abuse that happened 9 years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | May 7, 2022 5:04 PM
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Why the hell would you bite your skater? Even in the realms of abusive coaches that seems particularly demented.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | May 7, 2022 8:33 PM
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Just saw Stars on Ice in PittsburghâŠawesome energy. Karen Chen had missed some shows sick but sheâs back. Loved seeing Chock & Batesâ alien program live. Mirai Nagasu opened the show, and even though she retired 4 years ago, itâs the first time I saw her skate live. Ditto with everyone else - havenât seen live skating since 2007. Everyone was on tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | May 9, 2022 1:03 AM
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Old dinosaur Frank Carroll interviewed by Polina Edmunds
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 102 | May 10, 2022 7:18 PM
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Apparently Jamie Sale went on another blocking spree because people were calling her out on Twitter for her transphobic views. Cannot wait for this bitch to just die already.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | May 15, 2022 5:44 AM
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Whoa, she's an anti-vaxxer nut. Hadn't thought of her for years. Turns out it was better that way.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | May 15, 2022 5:51 AM
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Eric Radford full frontal #1:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 108 | May 19, 2022 12:57 PM
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Eric Radford full frontal #2:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 109 | May 19, 2022 12:58 PM
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Body's great but he's just not pretty enough to be the model he aspires to be.
Now Stephane Lambiel, Yuzuru Hanyu, unknown but drop-dead gorgeous Conrad Orzel! Even Junhwan Cha and his pretty baby face... give me those nudie pix please!
by Anonymous | reply 110 | May 19, 2022 1:02 PM
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R110, uh-uh, it still all begins and ends with Joubert (though, Nathan Chen is quite the piece).
by Anonymous | reply 111 | May 20, 2022 11:19 PM
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And donât forget Jason Brown, who always gives 110 percent in these performances. I saw the show in Pittsburgh but I would see it again if I could.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 112 | May 21, 2022 12:50 AM
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The Skating Lesson has some good gossip:
Eteri's daughter and ice dancer Diana Davis who is an US citizen by birth married her partner Gleb Smolkin in Nevada in March (he found the public record of it). March is also when Eteri "listed her apartment for sale in Moscow and deleted all of her photos with Vladimir Putin. She did not allow the âZâ at her show or attend the war rally."
Davis and Smolkin are going to be monitored by the USFS tomorrow, and they want to skate for the US. Supposedly Diana's instagram has stopped posting in Russian and only posts in English now.
Diana's biological father is Sergei Buianov (Husband of rival coach Elena Buianova !) The Skating Lesson found a document showing that Sergei Buianov previously owned Eteri's apartment.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 30, 2022 4:25 AM
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Maybe they're just in love????
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 30, 2022 4:29 AM
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R114 Smolkin needs to get US citizenship to be able to skate for the US (he was born in St Petersburg). Sure they can be in love as well but the timing almost certainly isn't coincidental. Eteri seems as if she is preparing to move to the US. She can get residency and then citizenship through Diana when Diana is 21.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | June 30, 2022 4:34 AM
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Buianova coached Adelina Sotnikova, Russia's first Olympic gold medallist in women's singles. I can only find this picture of the Buianovs - he's old now but can see the resemblance to Davis..
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 116 | June 30, 2022 4:54 AM
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Oh man, Eteri's coming here, isn't she?
by Anonymous | reply 117 | June 30, 2022 8:27 AM
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R115 For Olympic Game, yes. For all ISU events, it is enough one part of the couple has citizenship.
Meanwhile, in France, Nathalie Péchalat has been ousted as head of the Federation by a woman no-body has heard before but who was backed by Didier Gailhaguet.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | June 30, 2022 9:39 AM
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Smolkin is a cute twink. Quite a mop of hair on him.
He looks like he could be tennis player Denis Shapovalov's brother.
Do blond Russian men tend to look alike? There aren't too many of them.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 119 | June 30, 2022 9:46 AM
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Phil Hersh says the Grand Prix assignments have been moved, probably to the middle of July, because they don't have a sixth location for the Cup of China that China won't have.
US - Canada - France - ? - Japan - Finland.
I think that's right (so far). I may have the order wrong. Finland's taking Russia's GP.
And when are the Olympic Team Trophy medals going to be given out? Did the ISU cover that at their recent Phuket summit?
by Anonymous | reply 120 | June 30, 2022 1:57 PM
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I doubt the team medals will be given out for a long time. What's really lame is that the Russians are allowed to conduct the investigation themselves.
"@LiftLoopLunge
Olivier Niggli, the Director-General of WADA, explained that the August deadline for RUSADA to complete their investigation into the Valieva doping case is "not a hard deadline" & that procedural issues could lead to a delay.
The team event medals won't be awarded until this is"
by Anonymous | reply 121 | June 30, 2022 2:00 PM
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What is the purpose of a governing body if they refuse to govern?
by Anonymous | reply 122 | June 30, 2022 2:03 PM
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I have never really understood why countries do anti-doping themselves. It seems like an obvious conflict of interest - countries obviously want their athletes to win medals. It seems so much more sensible that countries should be required to put those funds towards an independent international body to do anti-doping for everyone.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | June 30, 2022 2:06 PM
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Okay, this made me laugh, from The Skating Lesson who has been divulging all this:
"@SkatingLesson
Diana Davis appeared very surprised to see me at the rink I skate at."
"@SkatingLesson
Diana Davis and Gleb Smolkin confer with a USFS judge."
by Anonymous | reply 124 | June 30, 2022 4:09 PM
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Ugh, Dave Lease is such a stalker. I miss the days when skating was covered by actual journalists and not creepy stans.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | July 1, 2022 1:28 AM
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Oh, I absolutely love Dave Lease. Figure skating is at a nadir in terms of interest and his Youtube channel has all of the latest gossip for an old fan like me. Plus, he gets great interviews from competitors, past champs and coaches. And even back in the day, who was covering skating other than cranky Hersh and sanctimonious Brennan? They had the monopoly on print journalism. Iâll also love him for his first blog, Aunt Joyceâs Ice Cream Stand, which was brimmimg with pointless bitchery (including the title) and for calling a certain skater âHooker Nailsâ because she possessed, well, hooker nails. It never got old for me.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | July 1, 2022 1:37 AM
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So Chen's back to Yale so no GPs. Vincent Zhou's going back to school too (Brown?) Jason Brown is "taking a break." Yuzuru Hanyu hasn't said yet - and he's always done so by now.
Should we even have a GP series, with the war and covid and all these retirements and delays - and no Russians who dominated three out of four divisions.
Has figure skating just suddenly fallen on its sword, so to speak?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | July 1, 2022 1:39 AM
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Eh, we now have the newbies--Nathan's hips won't last forever. I think we're more likely to see a return of Vincent at some point.
Without the Russians, this could be kind of an interesting season with new people coming forth. I won't miss that boring Russian pair in ice dancing. Are Maddie and Evan finally going to get gold?
by Anonymous | reply 129 | July 1, 2022 2:28 AM
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At his ice shows, Yuzuru's 4Ts and 3As looked beautiful. He could go on but if Malinin lands 4As in front of him - and he can't match them - I don't know if it would be worth it. But if he gave up trying, he'd probably podium everywhere. But it's not what he wants dammit - gold or 4A or fuck it all.
All sports careers end in tears. (in Hanyu's case, very wealthy tears, but still...)
by Anonymous | reply 130 | July 1, 2022 1:33 PM
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Pretty sure Hanyu did a 4T-4T combo in an ice show but does that even count, scorewise?
Oh and Chock/Bates. I've never liked her but I can't deny she's quite the performer.
Went to find list of retirements and yep, no more Hubbell/Donohue. I'll miss him.
WOMEN: - Evgenia Medvedeva (Russia) - Sofia Samodurova (Russia) - Anastasia Tarakanova (Russia) - Serafima Sakhanovich (Russia) - Elizabet Tursynbaeva (Kazakhstan) - Satoko Miyahara (Japan) - Rika Hongo (Japan) - Yura Matsuda (Japan) - Rin Nitaya (Japan) - Alysa Liu (USA) - Alaine Chartrand (Canada) - Emily Bausback (Canada) - Aurora Cotop (Canada) - Ivett Toth (Hungary) - Nicole Rajicova (Slovakia) - Danielle Harrison (Great Britain) - Niki Wories (Netherlands)
MEN: - Michal Brezina (Czech Republic) - Keiji Tanaka (Japan) - Nam Nguyen (Canada) - Alexei Bychenko (Israel) - Alexei Krasnozhon (USA) - Ryan Dunk (USA) - Christopher Caluza (Philippines) - Peter James Hallam (Great Britain) - Roman Galay (Finland) - Adrien Tesson (France) - Joseph Phan (Canada)
PAIRS: - Kirsten Moore-Towers / Michael Marinaro (Canada) - Camille Ruest/Andrew Wolfe (Canada) - Justine Brasseur (Canada) - Zoe Jones / Christopher Boyadji (Great Britain) - Miriam Ziegler / Severin Kiefer (Austria) - Ashley Cain-Gribble / Timothy LeDuc (USA) - Brian Johnson (USA) - Mervin Tran (USA) - Nicole Della Monica (Italy) - Jessica Pfund / Joshua Santillan (Switzerland) - Antonio Souza-Kordeiru (Croatia)
ICE DANCE: - Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue (USA) - Sara Hurtado / Kirill Khalyavin (Spain) - already coaching a junior team - Adrian Diaz (Spain) - (âOlivia Smart will follow a new path with the Spanish Federationâ - Natalie D'Alessandro / Bruce Waddell (Canada) - Ksenia Konkina (Russia) - Sofia Shevchenko / Igor Eremenko (Russia) - Anastasia Skoptcova / Kirill Aleshin (Russia) - Alena Kanysheva (Russia) - rumor: Arina Ushakova (Russia) - Kiria Hirayama / Aru Tateno (Japan) - Jim Wang (USA)
by Anonymous | reply 131 | July 1, 2022 1:48 PM
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poohzuruhanyu JSF updated Yuzu's profile in their website! Translation of his comment: "Thank you always for your support. I will aim for even greater heights this season."
So this is the official confirmation. Yuzu will compete next season.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | July 1, 2022 5:12 PM
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Shame about Hubbell-Donohue--they'd win Worlds this season, but they've been at it a long time. I like Chock/Bates better off ice than on, but if they pull off a Worlds win, I'll clap. Looking forward to the younger teams climbing the ranks.
I thought Gilles/Poirier retired, but maybe not?
So Cain/LeDuc retired--they kind of had to--she's had too many concussions. I see that James/Radford are still around and Knierem/Frazier.
Bradie Tennell's not on the retirement list either, so wonder if she'll come back this season. With Alysa retiring, the US needs somebody. I guess Karen and Mariah are around as well, though I assume Karen will be back at Cornell.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | July 2, 2022 1:25 AM
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R133 James/Radford are done. They have been pulled out from the World Standing list in the latest update. Radford has been elected to ISU Council as the athlete representative
by Anonymous | reply 134 | July 2, 2022 8:48 AM
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German dance team (Muller/Dieck) also split. Same for German top pair (Hase/Seegert).
Polizoakis came out of retirement and he partnered with Denisa CimlovĂĄ to skate for Czech Republic. They are coached by Fusar-Poli.
Armenian Garabedian/Proulx Senecal also retired.
Britain #2 Fear/Waddell split.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | July 2, 2022 9:34 AM
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Wow, so who does Canada have left? They're in a serious slump.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | July 2, 2022 9:08 PM
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Oh, no, Brian Johnson retired? Who's going to take his place as cute, hairy-chested pairs skater?
by Anonymous | reply 138 | July 2, 2022 10:16 PM
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"Tatiana Tarasova: If the topic of changing sports citizenship of Smolkin and Davis is being promoted, then the skaters, who had not previously considered the same possibility, will think about not sitting idle for a year.
Now I have no idea what is really happening, Iâm just speculating, but next week I will go to Novogorsk, where I would like to hold a meeting with our skaters, to express my opinion on this matter.
We need to know what the guys think on this issue. Davis and Smolkin are a good pair, but you need to understand what the guys who are closer to the first place think.
Of course, they are unlikely to tell frankly about everything, but I will be able to understand their moods."
by Anonymous | reply 139 | July 2, 2022 10:50 PM
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I love how she shades Davis and Smolkin there - 'a good pair' ... but not the top ones.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | July 2, 2022 10:52 PM
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R133 - Isabeau LeVito? Don't know much about Audrey Shin but she was 3rd at Four Continents. And whatever happened to Ting Cui?
And will Eteri start coaching? That's the subject of the latest "The Skating Lesson" with Dave Lease. Eteri took down all photos of Putin she had on Instagram, was even quoted as saying she doesn't like him. She didn't show up at the big pro-war rally that Plushenko went to - she didn't show off the letter "Z" at her ice show.
Gleb and Diana being married gives Eteri some sort of easier access to a green card and eventual US citizenship I think. And she did live and work here before and has connections. Dave spoke of coaches who only accept cash (which can't be traced) on the off chance she's not allowed to coach because of Safe Sport or whatever, but they'd have to prove she was drugging the girls -- and likely she wasn't. That doctor who was always hanging around or some gov't official, who knows, but her hands are probably clean enough, on that front.
How many stage mothers would pay to have a proven winning coach like Eteri work with their precious babies? I would assume quite a few. She worked miraculous wonders with Russian women, I don't think anyone would dispute.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | July 2, 2022 11:52 PM
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*Audrey Shin was fourth at 4CC, not third.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | July 2, 2022 11:54 PM
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The GP is going to be fantastic without the Russian druggies and cheaters.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | July 3, 2022 12:10 AM
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Sooo, is Tarasova basically saying the Russians will change nations in order to skate and, just as possibly, return to Russia when Russia's allowed to play again? Seems likely, given all those Russian satellites. This would be particularly valuable in ice dancing where placements get so fixed.
I assume China's out because its COVID vaccine doesn't work, but the Chinese won't use anyone else's, which means they're always one spike away from a regional shutdown.
Isabelle LeVito is a lovely skater with kind of jumping technique that won't get her through adolescence. If she fixes it, she might be around, but that's a big "if".
Maybe Amber Glenn will finally have stabilized. She's a beautiful skater when she's not doing a Gracie Gold.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | July 3, 2022 12:27 AM
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I think the Chinese vac works if you get three shots. But the elderly haven't gotten them.
Though they're close on an mRNA (link)
Don't know what that means for their skaters (I understand they can't do Cup of China - or maybe any kind of comps inside the borders?)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 145 | July 3, 2022 4:21 AM
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Amber Glenn is showing a triple axel in practice on Instagram. Anyone want to tell me how fully-rotated it is? I can never tell.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 146 | July 5, 2022 2:36 AM
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Looks good to me - but I'm not good at telling either. We shouldn't worry - the judges are hit and miss, as well.
If Amber and Wakaba could just get it together. Come on girls. We'll be missing out on our one reliable 3Aer, Tutkamysheva, who never got her due because of witch Eteri. But then, unlike men, jumping jack girls never get propped - see FIVE quad Trusova losing to whatsername, even after Kamila crashed out. Midori, Tonya, Surya -- guys can get away with zero artistry if they have the tech - females? They're almost punished for it. Even poor Mao vs Yuna - not clear on those details but I think there are other examples.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | July 5, 2022 3:48 PM
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R147 Well at least you have Adelina Sotnikova who won over the far more graceful Yuna Kim.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | July 5, 2022 3:53 PM
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Looks like Malinin is landing some sort of quad axel in practice as well. If he pulls that off in competition, he'll definitely be the new quad king for the U.S. Nathan Chen is timing his exit well. Wonder if Vincent will stick around--he sounded like he was a real mess at the Olympics--maybe the Bronze worlds is enough of a high note for him--that and whatever Olympic team medal finally shows up.
Karen Chen seems to have put up an Instagram post that people are reading as a soft-retirement notice. Bradie's still silent. With Alysa Liu gone, there's definitely room for some of the also-rans to move in. Naturally, the Gracie Gold fans are still wishing. And, hell, this might be the year Gold has a moment to shine and do some sort of redemption thing.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | July 5, 2022 9:34 PM
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R149 Ilia didn't land the 4A in Japan this week despite several attempts. I think his IG was making it seem like he had the jump more than he does. As in we don't know how many attempts he's doing before he lands a clean one to put on IG. His level of skating is so far below Shoma and Yuma's though, it'll be interesting to see what happens. But I'm sure USFS will push him hard. Focusing so much on the 4A seems silly. Just do 5 clean solid quads and work from there. History making achievements don't mean much if you can't win.
Karen is probably done. She was barely hanging on. Mariah will stick around for a season or two. With the new SEQ rule changes, she doesn't have to really rely on a 3-3 anymore though, so maybe she sticks around longer? Vincent could come back in a couple years, but he can also probably read the room. I'm sure he'd love a national title, but if Ilia even reaches half his potential that seems unlikely.
And Nathan held up as long as he could I think, the timing was perfect for him. He has major hip issues he's not talking about much. We know about the one hip, but this injury is the other hip. Two bum hips at 23 doesn't bode well and it's good to get out and walk without pain in 10 years. He mentioned he can't rotate jumps well because of it but wouldn't go further into the issue. He's got zero reason to ever return anyway. He'll go out and top and shade to a lot of the other skaters who hang on but I think he has more of a life outside skating. Some of these people obviously have no idea what to do with themselves if they aren't skating.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | July 5, 2022 10:42 PM
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R150, Yeah, I always kind of thought Nathan would have retired if he'd won back in 2018--he'd have been perfectly happy to go to college and do a few shows. He knows his hips won't last forever and would probably prefer not spending the rest of his life crippled. He and Bradie both have a certain stiffness that I attribute to having to protect areas prone to injury--with her it was the back. Not sure what it is now. Despite his not having officially retired, I'd be shocked to see Nathan in competition again. With Malinin showing potential, the focus will shift to him anyway.
Japan has that other young guy along with Shoma and Hanyu. The rule changes should really benefit Japanese ladies who don't have the same puberty monster issue and have the kind of technique that can be sustained.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | July 5, 2022 11:15 PM
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[quote] With the new SEQ rule changes, she doesn't have to really rely on a 3-3 anymore though, so maybe she sticks around longer?
How has it changed? You don't need 3-3's anymore?
Sorry - I don't really understand the technical side of skating very well.
One thing about Malinin, who I'm pretty sure has landed a rotated 4A that he put on Instagram (though not in Japan yet which the promoters are desperate for him to do, I guess) -- but the thing about him, his legs look too long for the rest of him. And I remember thinking that about Stephen Gogolev who subsequently seems to have crashed and burned. Got too tall? It'll be interesting to see if Malinin can make it long enough to land that thing in competition.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | July 6, 2022 12:30 AM
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Some of the successful men have been, if not tall, fairly close to average height--Vincent Zhao is 5'9" and while he's had his issues, he's never flamed out. Yuzuru's 5'8", which has got to be around the average for Japanese men.
Ilia's currently 5'6", so he may have a couple of inches to go, but I doubt he'll "outgrow" the sport, not with both of his parents being singles skaters.
by Anonymous | reply 153 | July 6, 2022 12:39 AM
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R152 It used to be when you did SEQ you only got 80% of the base value (the point value of the two jumps added together). A sequence is when you change feet or edges or put your free leg down. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva does a 3lz+2A SEQ quite a bit. You are going to see a lot of easier combos now with the rule change since you get full points for them. Basically, women (espeically) who can't do 3-3's will have other ways to make up points. You'll still need a 3-3 to be a top skater though, but it does help a bit.
And I feel Ilia just has insanely long legs. He's the same height as Nathan, who is like 5'6. Nathan has good proportions though while Ilia looks very lanky.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 154 | July 6, 2022 12:52 AM
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Ilia probably hasn't 'filled out' yet and has very long legs.
by Anonymous | reply 155 | July 6, 2022 1:06 AM
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The long legs would definitely be a disadvantage for a female skater, but I think it might not be the same hindrance for a guy--he can use all that leg muscle to propel himself up and doesn't have a lot to lift. The women just don't have the same kind of brute strength so they have to be compact. Nathan is relatively short-legged, like Javier and Shoma, but I'm thinking there have been some leggier guys among the Russians--Plushenko, who was 5'10". Different era, but he made his reputation as an early quadster.
Melanin's overall jumping technique looks pretty good to me, but I don't actually know much--I notice he can actually go straight up, which seems to me would indicate good lift-off and turning position. Right?
The changes in women's skating are definitely going to favor longevity more than they have in a long time. Basically, it's the Mariah Bell rule. Not sure I love it because the top ladies really should do triple-triples.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | July 6, 2022 1:19 AM
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I'm too lazy to research but I feel like Urmanov and or Kulik had long (ish) legs..
by Anonymous | reply 157 | July 6, 2022 1:26 AM
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Ilia's feet look bigger than Nathan's in that photo, but then if they're both just 5'6" Ilia has several inches to go before he runs into trouble.
And there are some current tall quadsters - Junhwan Cha is 5'11" - Roman Sadovsky 6 feet (though he hasn't had a good showing lately but he can do them when he's on) - Makar Ignatov 6 feet - probably others.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | July 6, 2022 2:05 AM
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He has great technique. He's already 17, yeah he can grow some but I doubt it'll be like Gogolev . I think the more obvious issue he'll deal with is injury and focusing too much on jump/combos he doesn't really need. The name of the game is still being consistent (to build up reputation) and clean to win. He wants to make a splash which is understandable, but 2026 is a long time away in figure skating years. It's also expected for men to do 4-5 quads and that's a looot of wear and tear on their body for four years. I see people already saying it'll be Yuma vs Ilia for Olympic Gold in 2026, but way too soon to tell.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | July 6, 2022 2:18 AM
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Yeah, wish Ilia had been able to go to the Olympics instead of Jason Brown. He could have used the experience and if he stays uninjured, he's the future of US Men's. Kagiyama v. Malinin could be a great rivalry, I won't be sorry if those two dominate the current quad. Malinin's only going to be 21 then.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | July 6, 2022 4:51 AM
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I guess he should have been sent over Jason - but Ilia did fuck up at Worlds just the next month, ending up 9th. And that's with no Nathan or Yuzuru. So if they'd been there, he'd have been 11th?
Don't know why he did so bad - but he did. He choked in his one chance to show the USfed that they were wrong.
He did win Junior Worlds which was a. month later in April - but so what? It was a lot easier than Senior Worlds with Shoma, Yuma, Vincent (the podium - but also ahead of Ilia were 4 Kvitelashvili, 5 Pulkinen, 6 Tomono, 7 Grassl, 8 Siao Him Fa, so what the fuck happened to him?)
by Anonymous | reply 161 | July 6, 2022 10:06 AM
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I would not be sad if Nathan retired. I can appreciate his jumping ability, but point collecting is pretty much all he does.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | July 6, 2022 6:45 PM
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R162 Yes, skaters like to win. Point collecting is how you do that within the current rules. Others are really welcome to try it. But he does more than that anyway. People who act like all he does is jump are delusional, possibly brainwashed and maybe dumb. He wouldn't have such universal praise by so many skaters and coaches if he weren't the full package.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | July 6, 2022 6:51 PM
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Someone has posted a full show of Fantasy on Ice on YouTube. Features Jeff Buttle, Mai Mihara, Johnny Weir, Shizuka Arakawa, Jason Brown, Stephane Lambiel, Javier Fernandez, Kaori Sakamoto, Satako Miyahara, P&Cizeron, and Hanyu, plus Nobunari âLolaâ Oda.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 164 | July 8, 2022 12:48 AM
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4th GP officially assigned to Sheffield
Grand Prix saignements will be published today
by Anonymous | reply 165 | July 22, 2022 8:17 AM
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[quote]Grand Prix saignements will be published today
Will it really happen this time? Because the ISU has postponed the Grand Prix assignments about 10 times so far already.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | July 22, 2022 11:58 AM
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Can someone please help identify the skaters, especially the bigger guy with the killer thighs and butt?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 167 | July 22, 2022 1:23 PM
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It's strange how no one is talking about Zabijako being bi/gay. By the way, why did Canada drop her as soon as she came out?
by Anonymous | reply 168 | July 22, 2022 3:12 PM
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For context, Zabiiako is dating Russian tennis player Daria Kasatkina who recently came out.
by Anonymous | reply 169 | July 22, 2022 3:20 PM
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R169, itâs being discussed. A lot of quotes from Russians about Zabiiako coming out are towards the end of the video.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 170 | July 22, 2022 3:57 PM
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From 2019, Zabiiako and EnbertâŠ
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 172 | July 22, 2022 4:05 PM
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I saw some new posts on this thread and figured they had to be about Yuzuru's retirement, but nope . . .
Until now . . .so injury, age, upcoming Japanese skaters. But what will he do now. The guy's been the monk of figure skating.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | July 22, 2022 5:16 PM
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R170 that's exactly what I mean. Everyone and their mother (including Tarasova) has commented on Kasatkina's coming out. But Zabiiako? Crickets. Not a word from Tarasova, Mozer, Enbert, Yagudin etc. While poor Daria is being crucified in the Russian media, no one in the Russian figure skating world is commenting on Natalia. Either condemning or supporting her. I find that very curious.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | July 22, 2022 5:47 PM
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âOn May 18, 2022, it was announced that Zabiiako "is resuming her career and will compete for Canada" with Zachary Daleman as her partner under the guidance of a coach Bruno Marcotte.[27] On July 20, 2022, it was announced that Zabiiako no longer trains in Canada and the request of the Canadian Figure Skating Federation was withdrawn.[28â
I was thinking the Russian figure skatersâ comments were strictly the party line. They actually donât say anything like âhomosexuality is wrong,â although the worst of them describes it as an unfortunate birth defect. But where the aggression towards Natalia comes in is their criticism of Russian skaters who try to skate for another country. Natalia wanted to skate for Canada and she had to withdraw the request.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 175 | July 22, 2022 6:21 PM
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R173 Yuzuru did his own ice show once (and one-off) so after the one this summer that had some effortful (if strange) new exhibition skates, I think that's on the docket. Keiji and Satoko did "Romeo and Juliet" - sort of ice dancing (saw photos of a couple lifts) - I love both of them so hope they're included (they just retired as well).
Santiago Hanyu also said he'll continue hunting the great white fish- the quad axel that Ilia Malinen has already landed (albeit only in practice). We'll see. I think he should forget it and do his thang (poured a cup of water over his head in one skate - orgasmically squirmed on the ice in the other one - did some peek-a-boo lifting his shirt - maybe a striptease is next??)
All sports (and political) careers end in tears. But I think he still has his groupies (even new ones in China and that's a massive market if this pandemic would cooperate).
by Anonymous | reply 176 | July 22, 2022 9:26 PM
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R167 Michael Parsons and Trent Michaud
by Anonymous | reply 177 | July 23, 2022 1:43 PM
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Grand Prix Pairs. It is an EPIC mess of a line-up
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 180 | July 23, 2022 1:47 PM
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And finally the ice dancers
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 181 | July 23, 2022 1:47 PM
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So Piper and Paul are sticking around.
US Ladies is kind of a mess.
So is the season for Deanna Stellato to shine having outlasted every other skater?
by Anonymous | reply 182 | July 23, 2022 5:18 PM
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Has Mariah flown with the wind?
I haven't forgiven her for stabbing Eunsoo with her skate so good riddance, freckle-face!
by Anonymous | reply 183 | July 23, 2022 5:41 PM
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R177: thank you! I knew DL would come through
by Anonymous | reply 184 | July 24, 2022 6:35 AM
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Elvis Stojko fucked Johnny Weir, that blows my mind.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | July 24, 2022 6:43 AM
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[quote]So Piper and Paul are sticking around.
I had a feeling they would. Back in March at R22 I posted that they were keeping their options open. It makes sense that they want to stick around until 2024 Worlds in Canada and try to win another world medal on home ice.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | July 24, 2022 10:47 AM
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At Philadelphia Summer International 2022, in the SP
Levito 70.72
Thorngren 69.57
Gracie Gold 67.01
by Anonymous | reply 188 | August 6, 2022 9:05 AM
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Go Gracie Go! Hope she still has those big beautiful grown-up jumps - so nice to see in the women's field again.
She studied under that Ukrainain (?) coach in Chicago, Alex Ouriashev - and Shoma's coach Fluffy noticed how good her jumps were looking and sent Shoma there, multiple times, to work with him.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | August 6, 2022 10:29 AM
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Gracie's Free Skate.
I'm wondering what the new world of figure skating is going to be like. Maybe Yuzuru's quads were just too beautiful and Nathan's were just too consistent - and the little drugged up Russian wonders were just too efficient, with their skinny-sparrow bodied quads (Trusova excepted)... I mean those things were just beyond human.
Let's get back to reasonable tech - and people concentrating on artistry more than tech - and, well, I guess I'm saying quads were destroying figure skating, even with the men ?? Or maybe I'm just full of shit, but I'm excited about the massive changes in the sport with the retirements of some huge names and with the Russians down for the count (for this season anyway - and will they somehow be redeemed for '23-'24? How? Will the ISU just say never mind - the way they did when they decided to let them run for office or whatever?)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 190 | August 7, 2022 5:57 AM
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Yuzuru Hanyu has made a Youtube account and tonight he live-streamed a two-hour practice session. I don't think he's had an official social media account before - nothing on Instagram, for example.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 191 | August 10, 2022 5:55 AM
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Tweet about Yuzuru's stream:
Happy to see his session end with a smile on his face. âIâm glad I was able to show that I could still do SEIMEI in full in the Olympics version.â He said it will be once every 6 months that heâll do something like this session. He says heâs really really tired!
by Anonymous | reply 192 | August 10, 2022 6:06 AM
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Kurt Browning and Alissa Czisny just got married.
And I didn't get invited.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | August 19, 2022 12:35 AM
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I had to look up their ages...she is older than I thought, but still young enough to be his daughter. Ew. Wouldn't be as bad if he was in his prime, but he is old and bald now.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | August 19, 2022 12:39 AM
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Did the resident âI hate Alissa Czisnyâ troll weigh in?
by Anonymous | reply 195 | August 19, 2022 8:09 AM
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A man who marries his mistress creates a vacancy.
by Anonymous | reply 196 | August 19, 2022 9:14 AM
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Paul Poirier (in the centre with his 2 arms raised) at this month's Montreal Pride:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 197 | August 19, 2022 10:47 AM
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Green/Parsons officially moved from WISA to MIDA
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 198 | August 20, 2022 9:50 AM
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Interesting. Green/Parsons are, IMO, the most interesting of the up and coming teams. Loved the Martha Graham piece.
by Anonymous | reply 199 | August 21, 2022 12:26 AM
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Junior GP starts next week
Entries of first stage
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 200 | August 21, 2022 10:07 AM
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So, are the cheating Russians allowed to keep their team gold medal? It seems that nothing is being done. How soon until they are all allowed to compete again, as if nothing happened?
by Anonymous | reply 201 | August 21, 2022 3:09 PM
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R201 They are not allowed to compete because of war against Ukraine. If it wasn't for that, they would already be competing. Valieva is finished because she will grow and lose all her jumps in the meantime.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | August 22, 2022 9:06 AM
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[quote]Kurt Browning and Alissa Czisny just got married.
Ew. I still remember an incident where, after a horrible free skate, Alissa skated to the boards and was embraced by her secondary coach, Jason Dungjen. But it was this very long, intimate embrace where he whispered into her ear for like what seemed an eternity--way too intimately for a coach and student relationship. I got such a creepy vibe watching it, like he was her boyfriend comforting her. And then, after that, she turns to her main coach, Yuka Sato, and give her just a quick little hug.
Such an odd, weirdly creepy dynamic all around...I always suspected Jason and Alissa were hooking up on the side after watching that. Yuka and Jason divorced not long after, and I always wondered if it was because Yuka discovered a possible hook up between them.
And now, to see Alissa marry a man old enough to be her father...I can't help thinking that again.
by Anonymous | reply 203 | August 22, 2022 10:43 AM
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Thanks, R202, but are they still gold medal winners?
by Anonymous | reply 204 | August 22, 2022 1:35 PM
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R204 For now, yes, they are. It's a ridiculous system where RUSADA gets to run the investigation themselves and they've been dragging it out for over 6 months now. I'd imagine that eventually there will be appeals to CAS.
by Anonymous | reply 205 | August 22, 2022 1:59 PM
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Yes, in 2030 we will probably have the final verdict on the team event
by Anonymous | reply 206 | August 22, 2022 9:11 PM
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Women Short Program at Junior Gran Prix Courchevel streamed by ISU YouTube channel
It starts at 2pm French time
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 207 | August 25, 2022 8:05 AM
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Men Short tonight at 7pm local time
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 208 | August 25, 2022 8:05 AM
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That Korean girl is everything I hate about the sport. Twelve years old, covered in five pounds of rhinestones and absolutely skeletal. A kid walking into school looking like that would require a home visit from CPS. Yes I know being thin is important in figure skating, but watching this sickens me. This is far too thin for any child.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | August 26, 2022 1:58 AM
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I don't link Tango for Junior Rhythm Dance.
Not that I am a fan of Latin for Seniors again either.
Anyway, Lim/Quam leading RD in Courchevel JGP
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 210 | August 26, 2022 10:43 PM
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Czisny creeps me out. She has a fetish for old men, so congrats to her for landing a sugar daddy.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | September 7, 2022 5:07 PM
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Never done before quad axel landed in competition.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 212 | September 15, 2022 6:52 PM
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Yeah and clean. He was landing them in practice, great to see him officially deliver. And the pressure is on.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | September 15, 2022 8:02 PM
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So, Jonny Weir has his announcing job *and* he still does ice shows.
Can someone please explain to me how Tara Lipinski wins a gold at 15 and is financially set for life? She works for NBC now, but did she make a ton of money right after Nagano? Or some great investments? Or have family money?
by Anonymous | reply 214 | September 15, 2022 9:07 PM
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I'm out of the loop - were Russian competitors all banned?
Because of corruption....or the war?
by Anonymous | reply 215 | September 15, 2022 9:19 PM
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[quote] She works for NBC now, but did she make a ton of money right after Nagano? Or some great investments? Or have family money?
Pretty much. Her father was an oil executive and lawyer, so she came from money already. When she won gold in 1998, skating still had a pretty lucrative professional circuit where skaters could earn a decent living skating in shows if they were Olympic or World medalists. As an Olympic champion, I'm sure Tara raked in plenty of money doing skating shows, appearances and endorsements before retiring from skating completely. I wouldn't be surprised if her father made sure she invested wisely. Now that she's a NBC commentator, also probably making a decent salary off the gig.
So, all these combined factors equals a spoiled little daddy's girl who wanted for nothing and never had to do a hard day's work in her life.
by Anonymous | reply 216 | September 16, 2022 6:10 AM
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R216, uh...never had to do a hard day's work in her life? She's an Olympic and World Champion figure skater ffs, what do you think that just happens by taking some magic beans? By all accounts, Tara was relentless in her perfectionism while practicing and wouldn't leave the ice until she had landed a certain amount of each jump daily.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | September 16, 2022 6:33 AM
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R217 I didn't mean it literally.
I'm talking about REAL work you HAVE to do in order to pay the bills and survive. Chasing after a childhood dream to be an Olympic figure skater--a wholly person pursuit funded completely by your money bags father who can afford to pay for all your private coaches, ice time, designer-made costumes, etc.--is a privilege, not work.
by Anonymous | reply 218 | September 16, 2022 7:14 AM
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I'd say it's both, just to chime in here.
She worked hard but was privileged, sure.
by Anonymous | reply 219 | September 16, 2022 7:37 AM
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R218, again you make it sound like anyone could do what she did and that's far from the reality. And to presume that an Olympic level athlete doesn't know the vaule of hard work is ludicrous, regardless of whether the 'hard work' they have done lives up to some arbitrary criteria you created.
by Anonymous | reply 220 | September 16, 2022 5:39 PM
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Result from first Challenger of the season - Lake Placid
1) Malinin 257.28 2) Aymoz 236.17 3) Pulkinen 219.49
1) Yelim Kim 190.64 2) You 183.40 3) Kawabe 180.11
1) Ghilardi/Ambrosini 189.22 2) Chan/Howe 181.81 3) Plazas/Fernandez 166.25
1) Fear/Gibson 190.80 2) Pate/Bye 179.63 3) McNamara/Spiridonov 179.03
by Anonymous | reply 221 | September 17, 2022 7:21 AM
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Did anybody see Malininâs quad Axel? I guess it was ratified?
by Anonymous | reply 222 | September 17, 2022 8:25 AM
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Watanabe beats Sakamoto at Lombardia Trophy
1) Watanabe 213.14
2) Sakamoto 205.33
3) Kurakova 188.41
by Anonymous | reply 224 | September 17, 2022 8:15 PM
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Loena Hendrickx leading the SP at Nebelhorn Trophy. Gracie Gold 15th out of 17th competitors (45 points)
Sadovsky and Lee leading Men SPs over Messing.
Hocke/Kunkel, Stellato/Deschamps and Efimova/Blommaert all pretty close at the top of Pairs SP
by Anonymous | reply 225 | September 22, 2022 10:52 PM
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Oh Gracie . . . well, at least she's back on the international circuit, sort of.
by Anonymous | reply 226 | September 23, 2022 2:29 AM
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Is YouTube becoming the only place we can see the performances?
by Anonymous | reply 229 | September 23, 2022 2:04 PM
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Nebelhorn Trophy is live-streamed by German Fed
Women FS is tomorrow at 11am German time. Free Dance follows
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 230 | September 23, 2022 11:15 PM
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Fear/Gibson Free Dance (won US International and Nebelhorn Trophy challengers)
So they have done Donna Summer, Madonna and Lady Gaga in the last 4 seasons. Cher for next season?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 231 | September 24, 2022 7:12 PM
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Guignard/Fabbri FD (won Lombardia Trophy)
Other top teams left (Chock/Bates and Gilles/Poirier) haven't debuted yet
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 232 | September 24, 2022 7:13 PM
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This one was gorgeous, I'm impressed:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 233 | October 10, 2022 3:40 AM
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Mariah Bell's retiring. This year's nationals truly are going to be a free-for-all.
by Anonymous | reply 234 | October 14, 2022 8:10 PM
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Junior Gran Prix finalists
Women
đŻđ” Mao Shimada
đŻđ” Hana Yoshida
đ°đ· Jia Shin
đŻđ” Ami Nakai
đ°đ· Chaeyeon Kim
đ°đ· Minsol Kwon
MEN
đșđž Lucas Broussard
đźđč Nikolaj Memola
đŻđ” Shunsuke Nakamura
đŻđ” Takeru Amine Kataise
đŻđ” Nozomu Yoshioka
đșđž Robert Yampolsky
ICE DANCE
đšđż KateĆina MrĂĄzkovĂĄ / Daniel MrĂĄzek
đšđŠ Nadiia Bashynska / Peter Beaumont
đ°đ· Hannah Lim / Ye Quan
đ©đȘ Darya Grimm / Michail Savitskiy
đŹđ§ Phebe Bekker / James Hernandez
đ«đ· Celina Fradji / Jean-Hans Fourneaux
PAIRS
đŠđș Anastasia Golubeva / Hektor Giotopoulos Moore
đșđž Cayla Smith / Andy Deng
đșđž Sophia Baram / Daniel Tioumentsev
đșđŠ Violetta Sierova / Ivan Khobta
đšđŠ Ava Rae Kemp / Yohnatan Elizarova
đšđŠ Chloe Panetta / Kieran Thrasher
by Anonymous | reply 235 | October 16, 2022 12:19 AM
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2025 Worlds assigned to Boston
2025 Euros to Zagreb
2025 Junior Worlds somewhere in Hungary
2026 Worlds to Prague
2026 Euros to Sheffield
by Anonymous | reply 236 | October 16, 2022 12:22 AM
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The ISU has voted to make solo ice dance an international discipline.
And RUSADA have farcically said that they won't tell anyone the outcome of their Kamila Valieva investigation which leaves the team medals in limbo.
by Anonymous | reply 237 | October 22, 2022 1:30 PM
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Men at Skate America
1) Malinen 2) Miura 3) Cha
Pairs:
1) Knierim/Frasier 2) Sellato/Dechamps not far behind. Then some unknown couples
Women SP: close rance between Sakatomo and Levito. Decent Short for Gold (64.18, #5)
Rhythm Dance: Chock/Bates leading with an unconvincing (to me) RD
by Anonymous | reply 238 | October 23, 2022 1:06 PM
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Wow, Malinin lands the quad axel again in competition. What an achievement. I'm really curious to see if Nathan Chen will continue competing. These two could have a pretty interesting rivalry heading into the next Olympics.
by Anonymous | reply 239 | October 23, 2022 7:37 PM
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Chock/Bates almost lost Hawayek/Baker. Less than 1 point
@239 I would be really surprised to see Chen skating in competitions again. Same for Zhou and Brown.
by Anonymous | reply 240 | October 23, 2022 8:01 PM
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Yeah, I think Chen is done. His body can't take doing those jumps and he's not going to acquire a quad axel without some heavy-duty training.
Malinin makes it look easy.
by Anonymous | reply 241 | October 24, 2022 4:08 AM
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Why would Nathan keep going? He's achieved everything. Why tear up his body when he can go ahead and finish college and move on with his life. He's always struck me as someone who has more to do with life than just skate (unlike Hanyu).
by Anonymous | reply 242 | October 24, 2022 4:10 AM
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[quote]He's always struck me as someone who has more to do with life than just skate
I get the sense he's crazy competitive though. Malinin presents a real challenge and is someone who can equal (and surpass) him technically. Athletes want to beat the best of the BEST. It makes the victory is sweeter and more meaningful that way. I think Nathan would retire if he didn't have a decent rival. Hard to savor victories when you're winning by 20+ points. But when there's real competition to be had, you never know.
It's why Virtue and Moir came back. They wanted to beat Papadakis/Cizeron who were being hailed as the best ever. I doubt they would've returned if their biggest rivals for gold were the boring Shibs.
by Anonymous | reply 243 | October 24, 2022 5:31 AM
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I think VIrtue/Moir returned because they hated going Gold then Silver in two Olympics. They wanted to finish on a high note.
Wonder if Hawayek/Baker will medal at Worlds.
by Anonymous | reply 244 | October 24, 2022 5:57 AM
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I'm very interested to see what Piper and Paul come up with at Skate Canada. I got the feeling that their heart wasn't really in it last season after they performed poorly at the Olympics.
Chock and Bates look very beatable based on what they showed this weekend. There are about 4 teams at a similar level so far this season. If Piper and Paul can come up with a Free Dance on the level of 'Vincent' and a more solid RD than last season they could, finally, clean up.
by Anonymous | reply 245 | October 24, 2022 9:32 AM
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Piper and paul brought the heat in the Rhythm Dance at Skate Canada - personal best and edged out Gibson and Fear. I think their score tops Chock and Bates from last week.
Paul looked rejuvenated.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 246 | October 29, 2022 9:25 AM
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I think, other than skating shows, Nathan Chen is through with competitive skating, now assuming the life of a college student and everything he missed about the experience. He has nothing else to prove.
by Anonymous | reply 247 | October 29, 2022 1:12 PM
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The men were an absolute splatfest mess at Skate Canada. Every single one of them fucked up their quad(s) or triple axle.
The level of jumping is now too high to produce clean programs. Maybe 1 in 50 goes clean (if they have high level technical content - one or two quads in the SP along with a 3A -- and more in the free).
Since nobody else can do it, I foresee Malinin dominating - with a couple Japanese men also capable, on a good day (Uno and Miura - maybe Kagiyama if he recovers from whatever his injury is).
One thing Nathan had was consistency so I think he could compete and win a lot, because of the rate of flubbed jumps, but does he want to? Maybe after a year off, he might start dreaming of a second Olympic gold, especially if the three or four contenders trip up.
by Anonymous | reply 248 | October 29, 2022 1:46 PM
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I hope Chen never comes back. He is unbearably boring and I can't take any more of his fugly costumes.
by Anonymous | reply 249 | October 29, 2022 1:56 PM
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Lilah Fear is as almost as bad as Diana Davis.
by Anonymous | reply 250 | October 29, 2022 5:33 PM
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Muramoto/Takahashi won the Challenger Series - Denis Ten Memorial competition. Very generous scoring all around that competition. It was a cluster of Eastern European judges all put in the same place.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 251 | October 29, 2022 5:35 PM
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Watching Skate Canada and I give up. What was with the Japanese dancers? What are those costumes doing?
by Anonymous | reply 252 | October 29, 2022 9:22 PM
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The Japanese were skating a Fifth Element program. Could have been executed better, but at least they are trying to do something different than some generic LaLa Land program.
by Anonymous | reply 253 | October 29, 2022 9:35 PM
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[quote]I hope Chen never comes back. He is unbearably boring and I can't take any more of his fugly costumes.
Sorry, but I prefer seeing the men look like men, rather than sequin encrusted drag queens. Let the skating speak for itself.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 254 | October 29, 2022 9:39 PM
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Is this letting the skating speak for itself?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 255 | October 29, 2022 10:02 PM
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The men were a hot mess in Boston last weekend, too.
Every man fellđ«Łđ€
by Anonymous | reply 256 | October 29, 2022 10:08 PM
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Oh for the days of the manly jumpsuits - Orser Hamilton Boitano John Curry....
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 257 | October 29, 2022 10:30 PM
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In defense of all the tacky outrageous costumes, since the beginning of figure skating...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 258 | October 29, 2022 10:37 PM
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R255, sorry, I don't see the sequins.
by Anonymous | reply 259 | October 29, 2022 11:14 PM
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Scroll down to Toller Cranston (blue jumpsuit with sequined flowers, 1976) in R258 link and a bit further down to 1984 Jozef Sabovchik
"....Adams cited a German writer who wrote this about the two in a book recapping the 1976 Winter Olympics: âIf either the handsome Toller or the graceful John had worn a small skirt they could have become the best female skater of this yearâs winter games. ⊠Never before have men skated so femininely.â What this writer is pointedly saying is that there is functionally no difference between the performances of the women and those of Curry and Cranston other than costuming. And what theyâre acknowledging is that the distinction between menâs and womenâs skating is largely a performative one, not an athletic one...."
by Anonymous | reply 260 | October 29, 2022 11:28 PM
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well, the quote is about skating style -- but the costumes pictured there speak for themselves
by Anonymous | reply 261 | October 29, 2022 11:29 PM
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I love Shoma Uno (Gold Medal after free skate at Skate Canada) and his costumes are to die for (like this one)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 262 | October 30, 2022 4:30 AM
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I just watched that clip and now it's gone. The powers that be are trying to destroy figure skating by denying access to videos. ;(
Here's his SP at least (we'll see how long it takes them to take it down)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 263 | October 30, 2022 4:34 AM
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Men are eschewing the sequins and going to more conservative, masculine dress because of Nathan Chen.
by Anonymous | reply 264 | October 30, 2022 6:18 AM
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I haaaaate that the Grand Prix circuit is no longer being broadcast on network TV (yeah, yeah, crappy ratings, blow me). I watched the first round of skaters in the Skate Canada free dance live on Peacock, and it was just the video feed -- no Tara, Johnny and Terrence, just a chiron at the beginning on who the skaters are and the music they're skating to and then the kiss-and-cry results at the end. I turned it off after two teams. Granted, I often think Tara, et al. talk a bit too much during routines, but their commentary can be insightful (when Tara and Johnny aren't squealing; Terry Gannon has the patience of a saint). It would have been nice to know what the required step pattern in the free dance was, but no. I did find a 90-minute hodge-podge of Skate Canada on NBC Sunday morning, but it only covered some of the women and men, and the other two categories were given a brief mention. Gah...
by Anonymous | reply 265 | October 31, 2022 10:12 PM
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I think this is why figure skating is dying in the US. Maybe it was inevitable with the demise of cable/satellite tv. I don't understand why the streaming service that used to do it (Peacock - I think the Olympic Channel before?) can't do it. You could even choose your sports and figure skating was one of them, and they kept the recordings for the whole season... Now there's this worthless shit.
I guess they just decided there weren't enough people interesting in FS so it wasn't worth whatever resources were required to post the videos. End of.
Die-hard fans are getting VPN's and tracking down the video in other countries, but I'm not that engaged. If I can't find the few programs I'm interested in on Youtube, then I'm out.
by Anonymous | reply 266 | October 31, 2022 10:48 PM
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The replacement of the Pattern with the Choreographic Rhythm Sequence in the Senior Rhythm Dance is a travesty.
by Anonymous | reply 267 | October 31, 2022 10:56 PM
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I'm not that engaged either, R266, but I won't even search YouTube for programs. I want it on my TV, not my computer (yes, I know, I can hook one to the other). Back in the day (i.e., last season), I would record something like Skate Canada and watch it at my leisure (since FS has next to no media traction it was easy enough to avoid the results). If a skater went splat more than once I'd FF to their kiss-and-cry. Commercial blocks? FF! I realize I'm probably the type of viewer that led to FS being shunted largely to streaming live, but I don't see why streaming sports events can't have a shelf life of a couple of weeks or a month (I think Premier League matches are available on Peacock for a month). I'll even sit through the commercials! (Well, I'll leave the room until they're over. I'd sooner have a gun held to my head than take an American Cruise Line trip.)
by Anonymous | reply 268 | October 31, 2022 11:04 PM
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I still think changing the judging system killed the sport. The general public understood the 6.0 system. No layman understands this ridiculous point system, with all its levels and GOEs, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 269 | October 31, 2022 11:06 PM
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Agree, R269, there's also a sameness to the program structures that few skaters but the very best can transcend.
by Anonymous | reply 270 | October 31, 2022 11:14 PM
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Also, more points for jumps (completed or not), fewer for artistry. Now we have "skate to the other end -- jump -- skate back -- jump, and there's not very much in between (there are exceptions to that, of course, but they're few and far between).
by Anonymous | reply 271 | October 31, 2022 11:16 PM
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And no one can spin anymore. They give more points for a leg over the head than a combo with multiple edge changes and a consistent center. Make everyone go to a Swiss spin clinic.
by Anonymous | reply 272 | October 31, 2022 11:21 PM
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NBC killing off the Olympic Channel was a killer, unfortunately. If you still have cable, you can at least go to Search and enter "skating" and have the chance to find what little IS telecast.
Thinking the archaic 6.0 system is part of the problem is nuts. That just made it all completely political. At least the scoring system blunts much of that.
by Anonymous | reply 273 | October 31, 2022 11:56 PM
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I find so much of the music these days to be unbearable. Horrid pop songs and cheesy covers, often with a bunch of different cuts sloppily put together. Some of the rhythm dances were beyond cringe worthy - random "Latin" tune with some samba shoved in at the end - wtf? I often wish they had never allowed vocals in competition.
by Anonymous | reply 274 | November 1, 2022 12:30 AM
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R246, yeah, Piper & Paul skated well in both the Rhythm Dance & the Free Dance.
Paul looks hot in his RD costume -- a muscle shirt with no sleeves, showing his deltoids.
Their Evita FD was also pretty good and has more potential than their FD last year.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 275 | November 1, 2022 8:52 AM
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The Russian scandal also turned people off. The lack of resolution by the cowardly ISU, also did it. In the US, the lack of any competent women skaters is a killer, since they were always the featured event on television and the beneficiary of endorsements.
by Anonymous | reply 276 | November 1, 2022 9:17 AM
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Those of you watching Grand Prix France this weekend, please report back. I am not getting up before the asscrack of dawn in California to watch it live-streamed (and not banked for replays) on Peacock. Anyone know why Papadakis and Cizeron aren't competing? Have they retired? I can't keep up.
by Anonymous | reply 277 | November 4, 2022 7:21 PM
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R277 Pap & Ciz haven't officially retired - at present they're 'taking a year out'. Cizeron is choreographing some other couples this year.
I just watched the Ice Dance RD - a few mistakes from some of the fancied couples, but generally high quality. The italians, Guinard & Fabri are leading just ahead of Beaudry & Hot Hot Hot Sorenson - who PB'd. Both couples about 5 points behind Piper and Paul's score from last week in Canada.
by Anonymous | reply 278 | November 4, 2022 8:03 PM
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Japanese Sota Yamamoto and Kazuki Tomono top two men after short program; Belgian Loena Hendrickx first, Yelim Kim of Korea second, in women's SP..
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 279 | November 5, 2022 5:08 AM
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R278 I doubt we will see P/C again in competition.
Papadakis had some rough couple of years leading to Olympics according to recent interviews. She suffered from depression. She got pregnant in 2021 and got an abortion. Coaches sounded pretty cold with her during her depressive phases
by Anonymous | reply 280 | November 5, 2022 10:03 AM
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If anyone in the US wants to watch the Grand Prix live on Peacock, the free dance is starting now and the menâs free skate will start in 2 hours and pairs free in 4 hours. Womenâs free has finishedâŠNew this season, it wonât be available for replay after you watch live.
by Anonymous | reply 281 | November 5, 2022 3:20 PM
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Jason Brown will be competing at NationalsâŠ
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 282 | November 5, 2022 3:57 PM
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Jesus Christ, doesn't Jason have anything else to DO with his life? He shouldn't have been given the Worlds spot last season; it should have gone to Malinin to start him up the international ladder.
by Anonymous | reply 283 | November 5, 2022 4:57 PM
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One to watch out for the future - Lukas Britschgi of Switzerland - a bit uneven at the moment but bags of personality on the ice, and cute for a single male skater
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 284 | November 5, 2022 6:15 PM
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Face is a bit Picasso-esque - well, it's just one photo. Out of this bunch, I think Sota is hot! And silver is great -- for him! How did Adam Siao Him Fa come back to pass him though? dammit
by Anonymous | reply 285 | November 5, 2022 7:36 PM
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I'm not really a fan, but Jason is sweet - and I think he's the type who'd make a good coach. So many top names don't have the personality for it - either too egotistical or too shy or not into it enough.
Poor little Mana Kawabe, falling out of medal contention. She's got so much promise but Japan is a hunger games for skaters, on the national level. This sport would really be over without Japan. Though I love Loena - well, you have to.
by Anonymous | reply 286 | November 5, 2022 7:42 PM
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R283. Malinin went to Worlds last season. And finished 9th
by Anonymous | reply 287 | November 6, 2022 8:37 AM
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R280 Why did she talk about her abortion?
by Anonymous | reply 288 | November 6, 2022 1:30 PM
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R254 Chen is a MANLET and not a manâŠ.
by Anonymous | reply 289 | November 6, 2022 1:31 PM
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Evan, you couldn't do a quad even if your life depended on it.
Nathan. Quad stud.
by Anonymous | reply 290 | November 6, 2022 5:36 PM
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GP Sheffield
Mia Mihara leads Women SP with Levito just behind. Tennell is not ready: 2 falls and one of the lowest TES
Men SP see Sadovsky leading Grassl and Vasjlievs. However, everything can happen tonight in the Free given how inconsistent men are
Guignard/Fabbri and Lewis/Gibson very close in the Rhythm Dance. Italians leading by 1 point.
by Anonymous | reply 291 | November 12, 2022 6:04 PM
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Danny O'Shea has always had a creepy smile. Now he is bold, he looks even creeper
by Anonymous | reply 292 | November 12, 2022 6:09 PM
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Grassl won Men at GP Sheffield after Sadovsky predictably bombed
Mia Mihara won Women over Levito.
by Anonymous | reply 293 | November 13, 2022 1:33 PM
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Lithuanian Ice Dance Hottie, Saulius Ambrulevicius (and friend), absolutely killing Hallowe'en
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 294 | November 18, 2022 10:05 AM
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Chock/Bates behind Fournier Beaudry/Sorensen in the RD at NHK
by Anonymous | reply 295 | November 18, 2022 12:45 PM
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There's shaping up to be an almighty 4-way fight for the medals at the Worlds between Piper and Pau, Beaudry/Sorenson, Chock & Bates and Guignard/Fabri. They're all scoring at similar levels.
Big question will be whether Chock and Bates have 'fixed' their Free skate which was unconvincing first time out.
by Anonymous | reply 296 | November 18, 2022 1:07 PM
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They should dare and do a program with Conrad Orzel as a Nazi soldier.
by Anonymous | reply 297 | November 18, 2022 3:23 PM
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Grand Prix Final is taking shape with 1 stage left.
WOMEN
Yelim, Sakamoto and Levito already qualified.
Hendrickx and Mihara are likely to qualify next week.
1 spot left. Watanabe leading. Gubanova needs a Silver in Finland to pass her
MEN
Uno, Miura, Yamamoto and Grassl qualified.
Malinin will get in next week.
Last post is between Siao and Sato. Sato needs 2nd place next week
PAIRS
Miura/Kihara, Knierim/Frazier, Stellato/Deschamps, Chan/Howe and Conti/Macii qualified.
Last spot probably between Ghilardi/Ambrosini and Metelkina/Parkman. Needs a 2nd next week. If neither finishes in top 2 in Espoo, Kolovev/Kolovev qualify.
ICE DANCE
Guignard/Fabbri, Fournier-Beaudry/Sorensen, Chock/Bates, Fear/Gibson are qualified.
Gilles/Poirier and Hawayek/Baker will join them next week
by Anonymous | reply 298 | November 19, 2022 10:50 PM
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I'm OBSESSED with the Reed/AmbruleviÄius Free Dance to 'Insomnia' by Faithless. Great to see a couple doing something different. Just off the overall podium in Tokyo, and 3rd in the Free Dance.
They could be carving out a niche for themselves like Fear/Gibson. Could be in with a chance of a bronze at the Europeans?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 299 | November 20, 2022 12:13 AM
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Poor Conrad Orzel. Should move to pairs like fellow hottie Canadian Nic Nadeau.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 300 | November 20, 2022 12:41 AM
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R299. Yes, I think they are a strong contender for Euro Bronze. They beated Lopareva/Brissaud here who were among the contenders for that medal. Finnish Turkila/Versluis may challenge them. I can't think of anybody else being in contention. Taschlers siblings could be close in RD but will fall behind in FD.
by Anonymous | reply 301 | November 20, 2022 8:47 AM
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Remember baby Yulia Lipnitskaya? Her husband has been conscripted. Apparently he could get out of it but still wanted to go. He had been posting a lot of Z stuff. The irony is that Lipnitskaya's father was mobilized when her mother was pregnant with her and decided to not return to the family.
by Anonymous | reply 302 | November 23, 2022 8:41 AM
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So glad I woke up early to see the Espoo splatfest that was the men's short program. Morisi Kvitelashvili had one of the worst skates ever. I wonder if Putin will have him conscripted after that.
And Keegan is quite heterosexual, if anyone is wondering.
by Anonymous | reply 303 | November 25, 2022 5:43 PM
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Good to see a great skating performance rewarded (Kevin's) over a jumpingfest - with some crappy 'skating' squeezed in between (Ilia's).
If Kevin could build up to a quad or two in his programmes by the time of the Worlds, he could be in with a shout of a medal.
by Anonymous | reply 304 | November 25, 2022 8:10 PM
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[quote] I wonder if Putin will have him conscripted after that.
he left Russia for Italy last month.....
by Anonymous | reply 305 | November 25, 2022 8:35 PM
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I think Georgia Federation got their Russian men out of the country. The dancer and the pair guys also moved their training base to Italy or Germany.
by Anonymous | reply 306 | November 25, 2022 8:36 PM
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R303, I should hope so. Keegan is married with a kid.
by Anonymous | reply 307 | November 26, 2022 3:02 AM
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r307, that's weird. I don't think he's ever mentioned it. You'd think he'd have a picture of his kid to show us in kiss and cry!
by Anonymous | reply 308 | November 26, 2022 3:12 AM
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Men's skating right now is horrifically bad minus Shoma.
by Anonymous | reply 309 | November 26, 2022 3:22 AM
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R309 Okay, I also forgot Kao Miura, who is the 2nd least offensive men's skater right now. But seriously for all the hype Ilia can't score a 90 in the SP and for some reason can't fully rotate anything else. Not sure why he can do a 4A like it's nothing, but struggles with his other quads. They are also rather tiny, again minus the 4A which is huge. Wonder if Yuzu is regretting retiring seeing the scores this season. He could have won worlds in Japan pretty easily with a 3 quad FS and his usual killer SP.
by Anonymous | reply 310 | November 26, 2022 3:35 AM
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I AM IN LOVE with US pair skater Danylo Siianytsia. What grace and magnificent talent.
A killer ass, big bulge, and a gorgeous face.
I hope they win tomorrow because that man is destined to be a world champion some day.
by Anonymous | reply 311 | November 26, 2022 3:39 AM
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I know R308, he just leaves his young family alone while he goes jaunting off to international skating events.
You'd think he'd realize that if he pushed the whole 'dad' thing he'd get some product promotion opportunities.
by Anonymous | reply 312 | November 26, 2022 3:58 AM
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Gilles/Poirier get a new SB to take the lead in the Espoo Rhythm Dance.
Paul looking hot:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 313 | November 26, 2022 8:33 AM
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Gosh, I witnessed Ghilardi/Ambrosini winning a GP....
by Anonymous | reply 314 | November 26, 2022 12:18 PM
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r314, not to mention the forgettable German pair with two falls moving up from 4th to 2nd.
by Anonymous | reply 315 | November 26, 2022 12:58 PM
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Speaking of Pairs skaters with big bulged all s - Dutch cutie, Michel Tsiba. Unfortunately couldn't find a pic highlighting the bulge.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 316 | November 26, 2022 1:29 PM
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The young Estonian, Aleks Selenko is future hottie. Incredible hydroglide. 90% of his body was connecting with the ice!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 317 | November 26, 2022 4:46 PM
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Why are the pairs guys so hunky and masculine? If I were the partner, I would fall in love with them.
by Anonymous | reply 318 | November 26, 2022 4:49 PM
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R318 - you need big ,strong guys to be able to pull off the lifts and the throws they do in Pairs.
by Anonymous | reply 319 | November 26, 2022 5:07 PM
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Yes, R319, but they're almost all straight dudes.
by Anonymous | reply 320 | November 26, 2022 5:09 PM
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the winner of pair competition in Finland today is gay
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 321 | November 26, 2022 5:39 PM
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Kevin Aymoz and his Italian coach, Silvia Fontana, look like they'd be a riot on a night out!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 322 | November 26, 2022 6:08 PM
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Timothy LeDuc is an 'out' pairs dancer! (remarkable because most of them are not out)
Also Eric Radford of Canada
I bet even in pairs, it's more than half.
I think Tim retired at the end of this past season though. Maybe Eric did too?
by Anonymous | reply 323 | November 26, 2022 8:37 PM
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* oops LeDuc competed in Pairs not Ice Dance - I made them confusing - and he's an American from Cedar Rapids, Iowa
by Anonymous | reply 324 | November 26, 2022 8:38 PM
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Big gorgeous Guillaume Cizeron of France is also out and proud (France, Ice Dance) - I think his partner is bi? (Gabriella Papadakis of Greece)
by Anonymous | reply 325 | November 26, 2022 8:40 PM
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Paul Poirier and his gorgeous giant ass is also gay. Ice dance though.
Honestly probably quite a few pair skaters who are gay, just most don't come out until later
by Anonymous | reply 326 | November 26, 2022 8:57 PM
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Morisi did not redeem himself in the free program. Ended up last. Keegan did terrible as well. A Finn skater who works as an ER doctor, and is in his mid-30s, skated amazingly, ended up 7th or 8th IIRC.
by Anonymous | reply 327 | November 26, 2022 9:03 PM
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Bradie Tennellâs free skate with the Greta Thunberg voiceovers is cringey beyond belief. What is Benoit smoking?
by Anonymous | reply 328 | November 26, 2022 9:10 PM
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For real R328. When I saw that dress I was hoping she would do a Greatful Dead tribute. That would have been an improvement.
by Anonymous | reply 329 | November 26, 2022 9:15 PM
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That Finnish doctor, Vallter Virtanen, shaded Yuzuru Hanyu, saying all he had to do was practice, while he (Vallter) worked part-time at a hospital as a doctor. So I'm sure he would have done as well if he'd had the time.
(not really true - Yuzuru completed a thesis and got his Master's from a Japanese university, their equivalent of our Ivy League, "Waseda Univ" I think was the name of it -- his thesis was about using artificial intelligence to score jumps in figure skating)
by Anonymous | reply 330 | November 26, 2022 9:25 PM
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It's an online university and almost positive he didn't get a master's degree. Not really the same thing as being a literal doctor
by Anonymous | reply 331 | November 27, 2022 1:21 AM
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Gilles & Poirier got a higher score at Espoo than Skate Canada. They got a Free Dance PB of 131.69 (4 pts more than Guignard/Fabbri) for a total of 219.49 -- the 4th best score in history. (almost 6pts more than the Italians.)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 332 | November 27, 2022 9:11 AM
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R332 Paul's ass is so big it has a gravitational force so strong it could pull the planets out of orbital alignment.
by Anonymous | reply 333 | November 27, 2022 9:25 AM
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Agreed, R333. Paul's boyfriend is a lucky guy to get his hands on Paul's muscular thighs every night:
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 334 | November 27, 2022 9:34 AM
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Now, Fillipo Ambrosini (the gay Italian Pairs skater) has lost the moustache, he's actually quite hot!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 335 | November 27, 2022 7:09 PM
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The mustache made him look like a tragic Castro clone.
by Anonymous | reply 336 | November 27, 2022 9:14 PM
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Is this still the main thread for figure skating discussion? Any thoughts on the Grand Prix Final?
Paul Poirier & his amazing ass & Piper Gilles won the dance event. Not quite as high a mark as in GP Finland, but good enough to win their first GPF.
Chock & Bates 2nd; Guignard & Fabbri 3rd.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 337 | December 11, 2022 9:31 AM
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Chock & Bates showed a massive improvement over their early season outings. Think Paul & Piper are going to have to up their game if they want to retain their lead going into the Four Continents and Worlds.
In other news: so glad Shoma beat Ilya in the Men's. Outside the jumps, Malinin is like a giraffe on skates!
by Anonymous | reply 338 | December 11, 2022 12:38 PM
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Mihara Mai đŻđ” 208.17 Isabeau Levito đșđž 197.23 Loena Hendrickx đ§đȘ 196.35
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 339 | December 11, 2022 1:52 PM
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R338, I like Shoma too but Ilia is about 7 years younger than him and still growing. He looks the same height as Sota now(5â8) and his dad is 5â9. Going through the growth spurt phase is hard. Iâm wondering what heâs going to become when he outgrows calling himself the quad god. Height and size can be a factor in the sport but even Yuma, who is only 5â3, has been out all season with a serious injury so itâs hard to say.
by Anonymous | reply 340 | December 11, 2022 3:16 PM
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R338, I agree that Piper & Paul can't take anything for granted. They have only recently attained the #1 position in dance and so it's too soon to predict victory for them yet. However, for now they are in a stronger position than they have been before. They beat Chock & Bates by 3.7 points at the GPF, which is more than the 1.66 point win Piper & Paul had at 2021 Worlds when they beat C & B for the bronze. So it's a good start, but as you said they would still be smart to up their game.
by Anonymous | reply 341 | December 13, 2022 8:36 AM
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Piper & Paul have had to withdrawn from next week's Canadian Nationals because Piper had to have her appendix removed. They say they will be back on the ice soon.
by Anonymous | reply 342 | January 5, 2023 7:54 AM
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Suprise, surprise:
"Kamila Valieva: Russia clears figure skater over doping case
Valieva bore "no fault or negligence" for a positive doping test, the Russian Anti-Doping Agency (Rusada) has found.
She will not face any sanctions except the disqualification of her results when the sample was taken in 2021.
The World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) says it is concerned by the finding and may appeal against the decision."
by Anonymous | reply 343 | January 13, 2023 8:16 PM
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It's the fault of the ISU for letting Russia conduct their own investigation. Talk about clueless and corrupt.
by Anonymous | reply 344 | January 13, 2023 8:25 PM
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I simply don't understand that. Isn't it obvious that the country would have an obvious conflict of interest when it comes to their athletes. This stuff should be done by a neutral organization (all countries can put funds towards that neutral org.).
by Anonymous | reply 345 | January 13, 2023 8:28 PM
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I thought after Rusada finished their investigation it went to the international agency WADA, World Anti Doping Agency, and they would make the final determination about the Olympic medals - this affects the "Team Medal" (she helped Russia win gold before her prior violation was found). So Russia may still get gold, get demoted to bronze-giving the gold to USA; or Russia may be kicked out, giving a bronze to Canada (which wouldn't get any team medal otherwise)
by Anonymous | reply 346 | January 13, 2023 8:32 PM
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Way to destroy the sport, ISU!! Good job!!
by Anonymous | reply 347 | January 13, 2023 8:34 PM
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R346 WADA will have to appeal the decision that RUSADA has made... such a mess. (Remember that CAS cleared Valieva to skate? WADA doesn't have final arbitration.)
by Anonymous | reply 348 | January 13, 2023 8:35 PM
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Oh I thought the case automatically went to WADA for the final determination.
Wil the team medals ever be decided? They ended 1 Russia, 2 USA, 3 Japan, 4 Canada.
Even without Valieva's points, Russia had more points than Canada.
by Anonymous | reply 349 | January 13, 2023 8:42 PM
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Well, congratulations to Alexandra Trusova at least:
"According to the results of the RUSADA investigation, the results of Kamila Valieva at the Russian Nationals-2022 have been cancelled. Gold goes to Alexandra Trusova."
by Anonymous | reply 350 | January 13, 2023 8:51 PM
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R349 If one person is disqualified due to anti-doping violations the entire team is disqualified. You see that with Olympic relay events: it will be the same with figure skating.
by Anonymous | reply 351 | January 13, 2023 9:01 PM
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I'm thrilled for Trusova. 5 quad FS by a female!! I don't know if she did it there but she did at the Japan Open (Nathan Chen was there and posted a photo of her on his Instagram and said "Mind BLOWN !!!!"
At least she'll have that National Championship.
by Anonymous | reply 352 | January 13, 2023 10:03 PM
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Oh and when Yuzuru Hanyu skated by at the gala after the Beijing Olympics, he held up his hand with 5 fingers spread out -- he noticed !! The judges would have given the gold to any man who did that, but... well, politics and all that.
by Anonymous | reply 353 | January 13, 2023 10:04 PM
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*when Yuzuru Hanyu skated by HER at the gala... She saw it and held up 1 finger (I guess meaning she should have been number 1)
by Anonymous | reply 354 | January 13, 2023 10:05 PM
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the thing is though is that we all know that all of Eteri's skaters were doped up. Valieva just seems to have got unlucky.
by Anonymous | reply 355 | January 13, 2023 10:07 PM
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R355, it's incredibly implausible that all of her skaters were not doped. Supposedly girls respond much better to the drugs, plus there's much more competition with the girls, so they would be all be particularly vulnerable and compliant.
by Anonymous | reply 356 | January 14, 2023 2:09 AM
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My boo, Lukas Britschgi, pulled out all the stops to snatch a bronze at the Europeans.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 357 | January 27, 2023 11:43 PM
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Are there any American skaters worth caring about?
by Anonymous | reply 358 | January 28, 2023 4:11 PM
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Short program US nationals.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 359 | January 28, 2023 10:19 PM
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Jason Brown is still going.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 360 | January 28, 2023 10:19 PM
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I was at US Nationals and 2 or 3 of those pair boys are chubbos! WTF? Either that or they were wearing back braces, but their partners weren't big enough for them to need help.
by Anonymous | reply 361 | January 30, 2023 12:34 AM
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Yeah, there was that fat ginger, I think.
Then there was the one with the bad back, or were they the same person đ
by Anonymous | reply 362 | January 30, 2023 12:52 AM
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The Junior men were so good. They ought to encourage some of them to get into pairs.
by Anonymous | reply 363 | January 30, 2023 1:04 AM
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High profile Canadian skating coach Richard Gauthier found guilty of sex assault, gross indecency
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 364 | January 30, 2023 9:27 AM
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25 year-old, Dmytro Sharpar, silver Ukrainian nationals medalist (2015/16), two-time Ukrainian junior nationals medalist (2014 â 2015) and Youth Olympic participant has died in combat fighting near Bakhmut.
by Anonymous | reply 365 | January 30, 2023 11:31 AM
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R365 meanwhile 'Moscow Dan' Grassl quad toe-loops over Dmytro's dead body to 'further his career'.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 366 | January 30, 2023 11:52 AM
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[quote]âI think the coach has nothing to do with it.â
Technically it's going to be the doctor who gives them the drugs isn't it? But I am pretty sure that Eteri knows all about it.
It will be interesting to see whether the Russians will be able to compete in the next Olympics. The IOC seems to be saying that they can as 'neutral' athletes again (so much for that when everyone knows it's the Russian team) but there's a campaign led by Ukraine to prevent that.
by Anonymous | reply 367 | January 30, 2023 12:51 PM
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BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEE!
I didn't tell that fat fuck to cap that skinny bitch in the knee. I demand respect!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 368 | January 30, 2023 1:01 PM
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One of my favorite lesser known facts about the Tonya Harding case is that her mother really did wear a wire to try to entrap her.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 369 | January 30, 2023 1:33 PM
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R361, love fit fat guys, especially ones with a football build.
by Anonymous | reply 370 | January 30, 2023 1:57 PM
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It is so refreshing to see men's singles skaters not all decked out in sequins like drag queens on ice. Thanks to Nathan Chen for that.
by Anonymous | reply 371 | January 30, 2023 2:42 PM
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My favorite of all time was Evan Lysacek. That man used to cause a stirring in my nether regions.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 372 | January 30, 2023 7:40 PM
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Fit/fat works OK in many situations. Don't think it looks good in pairs skating. Sorry.
by Anonymous | reply 374 | January 31, 2023 4:13 PM
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This Finnish ice dancer is the very definition of Big Dick Face. Lucky partner. Skip to the kiss and cry part at the end for close up of him and his hot bearded coach.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 375 | February 3, 2023 5:46 PM
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Speaking of hot skater/coach in the kiss and cry, I'm very partial to Saulius and Adrian Diaz!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 376 | February 3, 2023 6:44 PM
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Adrian Diaz is engaged to the butch Madison Hubbell.
by Anonymous | reply 377 | February 3, 2023 9:53 PM
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R377, since 2018âŠnow they are both coaching together. But as a skater/coach dynamic, the skaters and the coaches are close in age, which is interesting. Saulius was born in 1992, DĂaz in 1990.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 378 | February 4, 2023 1:29 PM
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Saulius has great skin - he's 30 but could easily pass for early 20s
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 379 | February 4, 2023 4:28 PM
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Saulius reminds me of Chord Overstreet.
by Anonymous | reply 380 | February 4, 2023 4:50 PM
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Is Roman Kostomarov still with us?
by Anonymous | reply 381 | February 10, 2023 6:53 AM
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R381 Both feet amputated, still in critical condition.
by Anonymous | reply 382 | February 10, 2023 7:01 AM
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Cute-as-a-button Ukrainian Pairs skater, Ivan Kotba, picks up a bronze at Junior Worlds, with partner, Violetta Sierova.
Suck it, cheating banned Russians!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 383 | March 3, 2023 12:30 PM
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So the 2923 World Champs start tomorrow. Who are people rooting for? I'm hoping Piper & Paul finally manage to get it over the line in the Ice Dance, Kaori or Loena in the Women's, Shoma or Adam in the Men's, and the Japanese pair in Pairs.
by Anonymous | reply 384 | March 21, 2023 2:21 PM
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[quote]So the 2923 World Champs start tomorrow.
It's been over 900 years. Have the Olympic medals for team skating been awarded yet?
by Anonymous | reply 385 | March 21, 2023 3:04 PM
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Hoping Chock and Bates finally get the gold!
by Anonymous | reply 386 | March 22, 2023 12:50 AM
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Kaori absolutely slayed in that short programme. Her jumps are SO satisfying.
Great competition so far - so many women delivered season's bests.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 387 | March 22, 2023 1:23 PM
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R388, itâs streaming on Peacock (right now, in fact), and it starts on USA at 6:00 am (Eastern Standard).
by Anonymous | reply 389 | March 23, 2023 3:32 AM
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Canadian Pairs hunk, Trentt Michaud about to go in the Pairs Final.
So handsome I could even forgive him the ridiculous second 't'
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 391 | March 23, 2023 5:35 AM
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Pairs has the huskies guys.
by Anonymous | reply 393 | March 23, 2023 6:14 AM
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Kevin Aymoz finally gets some love from the judges and is 5th after the Short programme.
Shoma leads from Illia, Junwa, and Keegan. Top 5 could all realistically medal.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 395 | March 23, 2023 1:06 PM
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Junwa was sublime and should be above Malinin. Shoma was excellent by overmarked a bit.
by Anonymous | reply 396 | March 23, 2023 1:43 PM
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Cha Jun- Hwan performing a dance routine with Park Sunghoon, former figure skater, and now a member of the group Enhypen. They are performing to BTS's " Black Swan."
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 397 | April 4, 2023 4:39 PM
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Jun-Hwan and Sunghoon's paths to stardom took different roads.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 398 | April 5, 2023 2:50 PM
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Cha on " King of Masked Singer."
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 399 | June 22, 2023 3:59 PM
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