Vincente Minnelli's Other Daughter

Liza supported Vincent for years- he was broke. I had no idea about another daughter.

They also ignored Vincente's request to be cremated, with no funeral - instead having a large funeral and burying him - interesting.

Well, that's weird. His house alone was valued (in 1982) at $1mn, not including the artwork, furnishings, and cars (which he also left to Liza). The other daughter was from his second marriage, to Georgette Magnani.

Liza and Christiane Nina Minnelli at the B'way opening of "Macbeth" in 2013.

Tina Nina, as she is known, is the daughter of Minnelli with his second wife. Georgette Magnani, She looks nothing like her older sister, and the relationship is barely acknowledged in Liza's publicity -- thought they did get together here in 2012 with a bizarre-looking Joel Grey.

It's because Liza supported him. Jesus!

That's no reason to cut your own flesh and blood out of a goddamned will. $5k? At least his 4th wife got the $100k.

Where is it documented anywhere that Liza supported him? He worked up until 1976. It's not like he was blacklisted or had some decades-long decline.

Look at R5, she looks just like her, dumbass.

He got it up twice for a woman? Once may be considered carelessness. Twice looks like a misfortune.

What a strange thing to be indignant about, OP--something that happened 40 years ago to other people.

Joel Grey 😱

Joel Grey looks like Laurie Metcalf in that photo!

Tina has wide set eye, like Liza.

Vincente's abandoned Beverly Hills mansion.

R1 so you are saying he was overspending all the time and was actually in debt? Was he a gambler or something?

It could be possible. Didn't Ed McMahon die in debt despite all the years he had a steady Tonight Show gig and did commercials?

[quote]Didn't Ed McMahon die in debt despite all the years he had a steady Tonight Show gig and did commercials?

Perhaps he should've entered the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes.

"Carson's sidekick on The Tonight Show had some serious money woes late in life and he certainly could have used some of that dough. In 2008, the year before he died, he was in arrears on his mortgage and was $1.5 million in debt."

The Minnelli mansion has been a squatter haven for some time, apparently (there's video footage of the property, looking pretty nasty, in the story linked below). The wife sued Liza in 2000 over her handling of the estate, but poor Tina Nina apparently has not (or maybe she has).

Liza supported Judy financially during Judy's downward spiral, when her own career was just getting started, but did she disinherit Lorna and Joey for all of that? Even if she helped Vincente out with some mortgage payments in the last years of his life, that's no reason to cut out your other kid. That is dark-side level shit and not even David Gest can be blamed for that.

Maybe she is supporting NT?

R19, meet R15.

Francesca Hilton squatted there for a while along with Jerry Lewis's homeless daughter.

"The Minnelli mansion has been a squatter"

How can a house be a squatter, R19? A squatter is a person. Jesus.

It says "squatter haven," dipshit.

r22 Daria Cassini, too.

Calm down, cunt R24.

Gawd, look at that hideous mirrored wall in R15. This could be its own thread: Tasteful Friends: Squatters Edition.

😆 The attorney must have been a queen.

"While defendant is honeymooning all over the world, having fed 850 of her closest friends a 12-foot cake, plaintiff is alone in a cold, dark house, at age 94."

[quote]The other/non-Liza daughter

This gave me a good chuckle

I call Lorna "NotLiza"

I call me "Molested!"

From what I've read about Vincente Minnelli, and from what he wrote himself, Vinncente didn't seem to be playing with a full deck - for decades before his death.

[quote]Liza supported Judy financially during Judy's downward spiral

I doubt that. Judy was more or less homeless in her last year or two, relying on the kindness of fans and strangers.

Thanks, R15 and R19. Minnelli's mansion was nice enough back in it's heyday, I wonder why it was abandoned?

Vincent hadn't worked in 10 years, and his last 2 wives spent money like water- both "socialites".

The money goes quick, when you have none coming in.

The biggest surprise is that the mansion is far from isolated.

when you are squatting a house for a long time, what happens with other squatters arrive and stake a claim to a room, or guesthouse, or pitch a tent in the empty pool? huh?

There's a big ol' fight!

“Otherwise provided for” suggests a trust fund, not “for reasons well known to her.”

I'm always fascinated by showbiz fortunes and how they come and go. Stars tend to just spend their money, even the capital instead of just the intrest.

While old Money families have their's tied up in trusts that lasts them generation after generation. Celebrities need to be more serious about their finances. Easy money goes quickly is you don't watch it properly.

[quote]Vincent hadn't worked in 10 years, and his last 2 wives spent money like water- both "socialites"

That's what he wanted, that's why he married them.

And that's why he died broke.

He was an adult. If he didn't like it he should have shown those wives the door.

As has been previously posted, Liza supported him in the style to which he and the wife were accustomed. There are several articles online if you care to Google.

Liza must've done really well financially in her own career if she was able to support her father and his socialite wife. Socialites love spending money and maintaining an aire of glamour and a high flying lifestyle.

It's all apart of that "socialite" lifestyle.

I never followed up on her Warhols, but those 12 portraits, plus the other pieces she bought/was gifted must have been the best investment she ever made. A set of 4 was only $90k back then, and I'm assuming Liza got some kind of discount.

I just finished the new Garbo biography by Robert Gottlieb. Like many people who grew up poor, Garbo was incredibly frugal, and after she retired at 35 she sought and obtained (free) financial advice to ensure her real estate holdings in California, New York, and Switzerland, stocks and bonds, art collection, and other assets would provide enough income for her to live on without ever having to work again. When she died in 1990, at 84, her estate was valued at $32 million. Her fortune was consolidated by the 1950s, but, sadly, she continued to be a cheapskate for the rest of her life; for instance, she always gave the doormen at her co-op $25 at Christmas, and she left nothing in her will to her housekeeper and caregiver of three decades, Claire Koger, who at age 83 received $3,500 severance pay.

Curious if the mansion has been restored since....most of those articles were from 8 years ago.

Google Maps photo doesn't show much.

Who or what got Garbo's money?

Last I saw, Liza sold one Warhol- ONE for $7 million. Good for her that no one ever bit at $40 million for the collection. Warhols are great investments.

Garbo left virtually everything to one of nieces.

That one acre lot is $10 million easy. Last time I drove by, the landscaping was refreshed and that was it.

[quote]Last I saw, Liza sold one Warhol- ONE for $7 million.

If she sold it at an auction house, she'll take home half that amount.

I've always read that Liza and her Minnelli half sister get along well and like each other. Not bosom buddies but are friendly and see each other maybe not frequently but regularly. There have been many photos of them over the years looking happy together.

Liza only invites Tina Nina to events where they have to sit in the dark in silence for most of the evening.

Tina Nina has never been in the business, isn't known for wanting to be in the business, maybe she prefers to be at low key events.

Tina Nina. Such a cute name!

[quote]what happens with other squatters arrive and stake a claim to a room, or guesthouse, or pitch a tent in the empty pool?

Naked Hobo wrestling.

[quote]Tina Nina has never been in the business, isn't known for wanting to be in the business, maybe she prefers to be at low key events.

Like Nana's cul-de-sac parties. She'd bring her famous Tina Nina Tater Tots.

Confusingly there is a Nina Minnelli who is apparently also related

Her daddy was a queen, of course he preferred Liza.

People from that era only became rich if they wisely invested their very good not fabulous salaries.

Callas was known to be difficult and very frugal and at the end of her life when she became a recluse she would beg her maid and I'm not sure if it was the maid's husband or a butler to stay with her even when they had the day off. She couldn't bear being alone even though she would turn down invitations from friends or invariably canceled at the last minute. I understand in her will she left them well compensated for their loyalty. That often doesn't happen.

Young people like schlumpy, ordinary, marginally talented performers—because they’re in reach.

Older people like glam, untouchable singularly talented performers—because they’re out of reach.

She doesn't look "well-provided for", she looks homeless. Maybe he meant Welfare?

OP, she's actually on Instagram - but her account is private.

His widow, Lee, was a thoroughgoing cunt. Like most of her ilk, the old bag died at 100. She was rude and cold to Liza, even though Liza financially supported her and Vincente. After he died, I'm not sure if Liza supported Lee. Yet, she allowed her to stay in the mansion.

Liza planned to sell the mansion but Lee went on "Entertainment Tonight" and cried about being thrown out of the house. Liza had planned to move her into another home, but the rancid hag stayed at the mansion for many years thereafter. Liza is a very kind woman. I think she handled Lee's antics, because she loved her father so.

But Poppa was a faggot, Lee.