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River Phoenix interview where he is clearly on drugs

That heroin really destroyed that boy. I never found him to be as talented as people claimed and he certainly was never as attractive as everyone said he was (to me) but it’s so heartbreaking when you know he could have had an amazing career. He was unique and different back then. It’s a shame he got into the wrong stuff to cope with fame and whatever else was going on.

So sad.

I wonder what his career would be like had he not died.

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by Anonymousreply 107January 23, 2023 9:31 AM

Does the full version of his brothers 911 call exist online? So sad.

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by Anonymousreply 1March 13, 2022 1:45 AM

A River (of drugs) runs through him.

by Anonymousreply 2March 13, 2022 2:36 AM

That movie was his best, but also his downfall. He hobnobbed with a bunch of Seattle low lifes to get background for the role, and ended-up addicted.

by Anonymousreply 3March 13, 2022 2:57 AM

He dabbled in drugs, but he was never truly addicted to anything unlike his murderer John Fruciante.

by Anonymousreply 4March 13, 2022 3:01 AM

R4 he had massive levels of both cocaine and heroin in his body the night he died. Combined, they create this sort of morphine.

by Anonymousreply 5March 13, 2022 3:06 AM

VIDEO = So handsome. What happened really was a tragedy and I rarely have sympathy for those who dope but he was so young...

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by Anonymousreply 6March 13, 2022 3:27 AM

It's not exactly apples to apples, but I think that Leonardo DiCaprio's career definitely benefitted from River's death.

by Anonymousreply 7March 13, 2022 3:28 AM

They were both starring in things at the same time lol

by Anonymousreply 8March 13, 2022 3:31 AM

R7 = And Juaquin Phoenix would have a low level Casey Affleck career--at best---if River was still alive.

by Anonymousreply 9March 13, 2022 3:36 AM

VIDEO = The Phoenix Family....Weren't the parents in Children of God?....There is the first thing that screwed them up...

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by Anonymousreply 10March 13, 2022 3:40 AM

It was an incestuous family

by Anonymousreply 11March 13, 2022 3:51 AM

Yes, I'll always think it was cult abuse that fucked him up.

by Anonymousreply 12March 13, 2022 3:58 AM

[quote].Weren't the parents in Children of God?

[italic]In 1973, the family joined the religious organization known as the Children of God. His family settled in Caracas, Venezuela where the Children of God had stationed them to work as missionaries and fruit gatherers. According to Vanity Fair, Phoenix was raped at the age of four.[/italic]

Any religious upbringing can fuck up a person for life, let alone being raised in a cult notorious for rape, incest, and child abuse.

by Anonymousreply 13March 13, 2022 4:21 AM

He sure was pretty. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 14March 13, 2022 5:30 AM

OP, why didn't you find him attractive? I'm generally not into blondes, but I thought he was good-looking/sexy. I definitely preferred River over DiCaprio, because the former was more masculine IMO. In both looks and behavior. I've never been into the willowy, effete, blond, baby-faced, pretty boys.

DiCaprio was admittedly a big River fan. If you watch DOGFIGHT, you can see that Leo was heavily inspired by River's performance in that movie. I watched it for the first time two years ago and I kept thinking River was Leo throughout.

That said, I've always preferred Joaquin, particularly when he was younger. The dark hair, haunting green-eyed stare, and pout just did it for me.

by Anonymousreply 15March 13, 2022 5:46 AM

R10 Joaquin's voice was so adorable as a child. In elementary school, I had a crush on a classmate with a similar-sounding raspy voice.

by Anonymousreply 16March 13, 2022 5:53 AM

River looked so angelic in this interview to promote STAND BY ME.

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by Anonymousreply 17March 13, 2022 8:34 AM

I like River but the way so many of his fans act like every actor wouldn’t’ even been out of a job if he hadn’t died are annoying.

by Anonymousreply 18March 13, 2022 8:44 AM

I like River but the way so many of his fans act like every actor would’ve been out of a job if he hadn’t died are annoying.

by Anonymousreply 19March 13, 2022 8:45 AM

Joaquin Phoenix is a better actor than River and Casey Affleck is a better actor than Ben. Leonardo would have still happened. River would have likely retired or still OD'ed.

by Anonymousreply 20March 13, 2022 12:56 PM

The way some DLers go on about this guy, you'd think he was Helen of Troy. If there ever was a more basic looking guy turned into a minor Hollywood legend, it was River. We get it, many of you grew up on his movies or where into this (cough) young man, but he was basic. Maybe talented, but no more so than a dozen other actors working in front of the camera today.

by Anonymousreply 21March 13, 2022 1:40 PM

were not where*

by Anonymousreply 22March 13, 2022 1:40 PM

If he didn't die young and pretty and if he wasn't made into this type of martyr by his family. He wouldn't generate nearly as much discussion. Other examples: Heath Ledger, James Dean and Paul Walker. And Corey Haim, Jonathan Brandis and Brad Renfro don't get nearly as much idol worship or discussion because they died as worn out junkies with dead careers and people were less sympathetic.

by Anonymousreply 23March 13, 2022 3:31 PM

River looked like an anime character come to life in RUNNING ON EMPTY, particularly in this scene:

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by Anonymousreply 24March 13, 2022 3:40 PM

Was Brandis really a junkie? I hadn't heard that.

by Anonymousreply 25March 13, 2022 4:00 PM

He had a sweet, vulnerable, child-like quality his brother doesn't really share. He had sensitivity in spades.

by Anonymousreply 26March 13, 2022 4:06 PM

River was good looking but not attractive to me at all. He was a mess who died because he was an addict. A glorified one

by Anonymousreply 27March 13, 2022 4:09 PM

[quote]He had massive levels of both cocaine and heroin in his body the night he died. Combined, they create this sort of morphine.

Wow, that was an awesome 1O1 of alchemy, Professor Cuthbert Binns. Are you sure the morphine doesn't block their bowel movements too long to allow them to turn them into solid gold or do you also give them some carminative sage? Or maybe anise if I may ask?

by Anonymousreply 28March 13, 2022 4:25 PM

R27 Joaquin plays characters who are adults. Adults tend to not be childlike. River was childlike because he was still in his adolescence when he died. Just like James Dean. So eternally a teenager. If River was alive today, nobody would describe him as childlike or sweet.

by Anonymousreply 29March 13, 2022 4:32 PM

Yeah, it's apparent that he was high in OPs interview. River was not a junkie. He went through periods when he dabbled , but then was clean for extended periods. His real addiction was smoking, and was trying to quit with clove cigarettes. He was clean during whole shooting of the film Dark Blood in the weeks before. He was eating organics foods and the only vice during this time was cigarettes and weed. He lapsed in the Viper Room when he was offered a spiked drink from John Frusciante and like the trusting fool he accepted it from his friend..

by Anonymousreply 30March 13, 2022 4:35 PM

I saw an episode of one of those shows about the 90s and he was a heavy user every time he was not filming r30. He would always clean up while working and go months clean, but the minute he would go back to NYC or LA, he would start using again.

Needless to say he should have moved to a more quiet place.

by Anonymousreply 31March 13, 2022 4:37 PM

River was an alcoholic in his teen years. That's an addiction. And he was hanging around other junkies for a while, so eventually he would pick up that habit. People in Hollywood hand out drugs like candy. People act like he was not impressionable and dumb with a sense of invincibility like every young man.

by Anonymousreply 32March 13, 2022 4:38 PM

In R10’s video…check out Daddy’s death stare at the other members of the family while they are responding to interview questions. Father Phoenix reminds me of Michael McDonald’s portrayal of John Ramsey in MadTV’s “Hollywood Squares” sketch.

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by Anonymousreply 33March 13, 2022 5:07 PM

R30, positively! And no one willingly drinks a speedball.

by Anonymousreply 34March 13, 2022 6:04 PM

DL has become more and more Tumblr-like with all the fangirls squealing over cute nonthreatening boys like River, Timothee, Froy, James Dean, Keanu, Kpop, etc and making them out to be "pretty little angels."

by Anonymousreply 35March 13, 2022 10:00 PM

Those aren't fangirls. They are old gay men who like young boys.

by Anonymousreply 36March 13, 2022 10:11 PM

River was a special guy .

by Anonymousreply 37March 13, 2022 10:17 PM

Is this a secret pedo thread?

by Anonymousreply 38March 13, 2022 10:47 PM

Leonardo DiCaprio was in The Boys' Life and What's Eating Gilbert Grape and getting a lot of attention for both roles. He was likely signed on for The Basketball Diaries, Total Eclipse and The Quick and the Dead before River's OD. Leo has the more aggressive and social-climbing personality that creates a celebrity which River did not. River would have either retired, ended up washed up, die from overdose or get sober and move into minor roles, TV and indie pictures.

by Anonymousreply 39March 13, 2022 11:09 PM

Joaquin Phoenix was adorable when he was a kid named Leaf. And before anyone calls me a pedo, he's older than me and I was a kid when I noticed him, too. I remember River said several times that he was nothing as an actor compared to his brother.

by Anonymousreply 40March 13, 2022 11:12 PM

[quote]Is this a secret pedo thread?

Welcome on board R38, my name is Otto and I'll be your young master tonight!

by Anonymousreply 41March 13, 2022 11:19 PM

R40 he was just humble. he was an amazing natural talent and i wish we could've gotten to see the type of actor he'd grow into. joaqin is great but he didn't get into the game in a serious way until he was an adult

by Anonymousreply 42March 14, 2022 4:09 AM

that interview OP posted is hard to watch. nobody helped this kid who was clearly overwhelmed and hurting.

by Anonymousreply 43March 14, 2022 4:13 AM

[quote]It's not exactly apples to apples, but I think that Leonardo DiCaprio's career definitely benefitted from River's death.

I came here to say this, R7.

by Anonymousreply 44March 14, 2022 4:14 AM

It is kind of pointless though. River died really young, a long time ago. Sad. Cute. Forgotten.

I don't believe any of the BS that people want to know what kind of actor he'd grow into. You're just reliving your old jerk offs R42. And still jerking off to a dead kid from 30 years ago. River Phoenix would be 51 years old now. FIFTY ONE.

The guys who start these threads are all in arrested sexual development. To be kind. I bet your walls are covered in Teen Beat magazine covers.

by Anonymousreply 45March 14, 2022 4:18 AM

My theory was Brandis got molested in Hollywood and just couldn't get past it. He probably saw guys who molested him thriving in Hollywood and it caused him to snap.. I never heard anything about drugs with him. LINK = Brandis Interviews. Totally sober.

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by Anonymousreply 46March 14, 2022 4:19 AM

Sorry, but I wanted to slap the sunglasses off his face and couldn’t watch.

He was a lovely-looking guy, though.

Also, Joaquin looks just like the dad now.

by Anonymousreply 47March 14, 2022 4:31 AM

Did you watch Soleil Moon Frye's documentary Kid90, R46?

I don't know if what his father says in the interview below is true but in the documentary it looked like Jonathan had been very close to Soleil.

[quote]In making her new documentary, Kid90, Soleil Moon Frye combed through scores of old videos, audio recordings and diaries — and made some bittersweet discoveries regarding her friend, actor Jonathan Brandis, who died by suicide in 2003.

[quote]”I found so many voicemails Jonathan left me when we were kids," the actress, 44, who currently stars on Peacock's reboot of Punky Brewster, tells PEOPLE in this week's issue. "Some of them were 10 minutes long, his innermost thoughts. It just made me cry listening to them. He was a real friend."

[quote]”Jonathan was very smart and he was very polite and always easygoing," his father Greg Brandis tells PEOPLE. "In a sad way, he was probably bipolar. [His death] wasn't due to the entertainment industry. I look back now, and in his 20s he showed signs of manic depression. I hope that anyone suffering can go get help."

[quote]For Frye, reflecting on Brandis' death, as well as the losses of other friends to drugs and suicide, revealed an important lesson.

[quote]”I had some elements of guilt not seeing [the pain]," she says. "How often do we really look at each other and go, 'How are you?' and actually hear what someone is saying? I learned that I just wasn't listening in the way I do now."

Kid90 is on Hulu. I think I saw DiCaprio's name as one of the producers.

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by Anonymousreply 48March 14, 2022 4:37 AM

[quote]joaqin is great but he didn't get into the game in a serious way until he was an adult

He's said he purposely dropped out because after he grew out of kid roles, where he had quite a lot of success, he kept getting really shitty roles offered in his 20s and concluded he'd wait until he was a little older for meatier roles. Don't know how much of that is his own spun narrative, but that's what he says about why he hardly worked in his 20s. I suspect recovering from the trauma of what happened to River when he was only 19 factored in there too.

by Anonymousreply 49March 14, 2022 5:24 AM

Brandis was upset and depressed once he couldn’t get roles anymore.

by Anonymousreply 50March 14, 2022 10:27 AM

R49 Joaquin worked a lot in his twenties. He had several hit movies (e.g., GLADIATOR, SIGNS, WALK THE LINE), two Oscar nominations, one Golden Globe win, and one Grammy. After PARENTHOOD (1989), which was released shortly before he turned 15 and was a huge hit, Joaquin inexplicably took a six-year break and didn't return to acting until TO DIE FOR (1995) when he was 21. By many accounts, he was burned out with performing, which is why he quit as a young teen. He had been acting professionally since he was 8, and before that he and his siblings busked on the streets for money.

River died on Halloween 1993, three days after Joaquin's 19th birthday. If you guys remember, the press went crazy after River's death. Joaquin's 9-1-1 call was played ad nauseam on the news. He was even hounded by the paparazzi so much (I guess 'cause he was River's only brother, he was there when it happened, and he had made the call) that the family left the country for about a year, until things cooled down. When Joaquin returned to the U.S. , he met with Gus Van Sant, who had previously directed River in MY OWN PRIVATE IDAHO and Rain in EVEN COWGIRLS GET THE BLUES, to read for TO DIE FOR. And the rest is history.

It seems to me that Joaquin was pushed to replace River after his death. And it was a successful move because he became bigger than River ever was.

by Anonymousreply 51March 14, 2022 11:57 AM

He comes across as an asshole trying to be edgy in that video

by Anonymousreply 52March 14, 2022 1:01 PM

Jonathan being bipolar makes sense. Some people are depressed or troubled because of faulty genetics and chemical imbalances. Do not be fooled by good looks, that's just an outer surface.

by Anonymousreply 53March 14, 2022 1:18 PM

Joaquin doesn't have the same vibe as River. Joaquin excels at scumbags.

by Anonymousreply 54March 14, 2022 1:43 PM

Joaquin is a better actor. That's all that matters. River was better looking and died young before he got old and ugly. That's his "vibe."

by Anonymousreply 55March 14, 2022 1:47 PM

Nonsense. River was tender and sensitive, qualities boys his age often work to hide. He projected those qualities on screen and had many an audience member in his thrall because of it.

by Anonymousreply 56March 14, 2022 1:52 PM

River was not different from any other white boy in a liberal upper class urban neighborhood. Not saying he didn't have charisma and beauty and sensitivity but he's not the only actor in history with that. Great actors project vulnerability. Joaquin projects the same vulnerability and sweetness as River. The difference is Joaquin isn't pretty and delicate looking. So the perception is different. People empathize better with beauty.

by Anonymousreply 57March 14, 2022 3:08 PM

River wasn't all that beautiful. He had a lazy eye. Joaquin has a danger about him. It's not just about pretty or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 58March 14, 2022 3:27 PM

What danger about Joaquin? He looks fragile and has that doe-in-the headlights stare. Like I could push him down with one finger.

Also River played dangerous in Dogfight and Dark Blood pretty well. River actually looked very angry and pissed in many of his photos and interviews. Passive aggressive demeanor.

by Anonymousreply 59March 14, 2022 3:31 PM

There's malevolence in Joaquin that has been used in numerous projects. He's more of an antagonist than a protagonist.

by Anonymousreply 60March 14, 2022 3:33 PM

Same poster talking to itself all through this thread. Sounds like a nutcase AND a pedophile.

by Anonymousreply 61March 14, 2022 3:47 PM

R60 you don't understand acting. Do you? It's playing pretend but you get paid.

by Anonymousreply 62March 14, 2022 3:49 PM

R58 being that beautiful in spite of a lazy eye is a feat, imo.

to whoever is saying Joaquin is a better actor, i think it's really impossible to say that. river never got a chance to grow into the types of roles Joaqin took, and in fact, the types of movies that made him famous weren't the types being made when River was on his come-up. also because of River's looks, he played more romantic leads than Joaquin would ever be sought for.

by Anonymousreply 63March 14, 2022 4:21 PM

[Quote] you don't understand acting. Do you? It's playing pretend but you get paid.

Of course, dear. But some actors excel in areas that others don't.

by Anonymousreply 64March 14, 2022 4:21 PM

Also pretty wild/sad to see his transformation. This was his last photoshoot. His face is drawn and gaunt.

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by Anonymousreply 65March 14, 2022 4:27 PM

Barely resembles himself from just a few years before

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by Anonymousreply 66March 14, 2022 4:28 PM

His looks were overrated

by Anonymousreply 67March 14, 2022 4:31 PM

High whilst interviewing? What a loser

by Anonymousreply 68March 14, 2022 4:38 PM

R68 Incidentally, Judy Davis was a cunt to him while making his last unfinished movie Dark Blood (also co-starring Jonathan Pryce). According to the director, River was initially excited to be working with her, but grew to resent her (even became sick at the sight of her) as production progressed.

by Anonymousreply 69March 14, 2022 4:48 PM

Did Davis expect professionalism?

by Anonymousreply 70March 14, 2022 4:50 PM

He should have stuck with Martha Plimpton. That dame is no nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 71March 14, 2022 4:50 PM

R70 the director said she was needlessly cruel. He was interviewed for one of River's documentaries.

by Anonymousreply 72March 14, 2022 4:53 PM

R70 i wonder what really happened with Judy Davis. river was famously kind and charming and the story goes that Judy's hatred for the director of the movie oozed out onto River and Pryce. River was not used to people being cruel to him and as she was an idol of his, it really got him down when she was impervious to his charms. she sounds like a nightmare.

on the other hand, perhaps she was being tough on him because she knew of his drug issues and no one else was addressing them. surely she was a huge bitch but maybe she was frustrated watching river be enabled.

by Anonymousreply 73March 14, 2022 4:54 PM

I expect a drug addicted co-star is more of a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 74March 14, 2022 4:55 PM

R71 i've much thought the same. martha and his second girlfriend, sue, were both with river for several years each and confronted him on many occasions about his substance abuse problems to no avail.

R74 River was clean for the shooting of that film and it's corroborated by the director and Pryce so, no. she was just a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 75March 14, 2022 4:56 PM

Let's worship at the altar of this golden patron god of twinks. All hail River!

by Anonymousreply 76March 14, 2022 5:00 PM

Was River drugs tested on the set of the movie? Even that doesn't mean anything if he paid someone for their unine.

by Anonymousreply 77March 14, 2022 5:03 PM

aside from the massive speedball they found in his blood during the autopsy they only found traces of weed. the coroner said the cocaine/heroin had all been consumed at once.

by Anonymousreply 78March 14, 2022 5:07 PM

Is that fact important to you? You worship less if he didn't have clean periods?

by Anonymousreply 79March 14, 2022 5:31 PM

On one of the Phoenix threads someone said Kate Mara didn't want Rooney to bring Joaquin to Kate's wedding because she was afraid Rooney would be too preoccupied with trying to make Joaquin comfortable and not have a good time. Not sure if this was a DL'er projecting or if it's true. As well, another commenter mentioned the Mara family did not want Rooney to marry Joaquin which is interesting because for a while they were engaged but they never did get married.

by Anonymousreply 80March 22, 2022 9:41 PM

^ Also that he is not into sports. Lol.

by Anonymousreply 81March 22, 2022 9:51 PM

He and Keanu enjoyed intimate times.

by Anonymousreply 82March 23, 2022 3:17 AM

“ only found traces of weed. the coroner said the cocaine/heroin had all been consumed at once.”

Yea, consumed as in a spiked drink with intention to kill him . A hot shot

by Anonymousreply 83March 23, 2022 6:01 AM

Yikes, r1. No wonder Joaquin is still, understandably, torn up about that. I didn't know he literally watched his brother convulsing on the sidewalk to death. That would fuck anyone up.

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by Anonymousreply 84March 23, 2022 8:54 AM

I 100% believe Keanu was in love with him. He called River the Juliet to his Romeo and can't talk about him without tearing up to this day.

by Anonymousreply 85March 23, 2022 7:26 PM

There was for sure something with Keanu and River that went beyond friendship. We'll likely never know if it was an actual relationship or fucking around that involved feelings, but Keanu LOVED him. That much is clear. It also raised my eyebrows when I found out River wrote and partially directed that fireside scene with Keanu..."I love you, and you don't pay me" breaks my heart to this day.

by Anonymousreply 86March 23, 2022 7:31 PM

Sure, sure. River and David Geffen are very different types.

by Anonymousreply 87March 23, 2022 7:35 PM

“ No wonder Joaquin is still, understandably, torn up about that. I didn't know he literally watched his brother convulsing on the sidewalk to death. That would fuck anyone up.”

He also witnessed John Frusciante hand River the Dixie cup filled with lethal concoction of heroin and cocaine . No one willingly drinks a speedball period! Joaquin knows his brother was murdered.

by Anonymousreply 88March 23, 2022 11:51 PM

R88 murdered? that would mean there was intent and there is no way to prove that.

River was awe-inspiring in many ways but he was also basically a child still (23? no age to die...) and made bad decisions. accepting an unknown substance from a massive heroin addict was not a good choice. trusting other heroin addicts is never a good idea.

by Anonymousreply 89March 23, 2022 11:56 PM

Most healthy male friendships are like that. It's brotherhood. I don't think they were lovers but did like to tease the public like in that interview they had. Both were vocal gay allies and wanted to sell the film they were proud to make.

by Anonymousreply 90March 24, 2022 12:02 AM

R89, river drank his heroin . Find someone who willingly drinks heroin WITH cocaine! If you say you know people, you are a fucking liar !!

by Anonymousreply 91March 24, 2022 12:09 AM

R91 take a breath. and what i said still stands: don't ingest anything given to you by a junkie.

by Anonymousreply 92March 24, 2022 12:11 AM

Why didn't Fruscato drink his heroin? Who thought to make a heroin drink? It wasn't a trap house.

by Anonymousreply 93March 24, 2022 12:11 AM

R92, you just don’t get it .

by Anonymousreply 94March 24, 2022 12:22 AM

ok R94 you're just smarter than everyone i guess

by Anonymousreply 95March 24, 2022 12:43 AM

51 R45? He’d be 51? Oh the horror! A year younger than Paul Rudd then. River was talented and handsome and is remembered.

by Anonymousreply 96March 24, 2022 1:14 AM

R96, River was also by all accounts a good soul

by Anonymousreply 97March 24, 2022 1:15 AM

Good souls don't put their loved ones through what he did. Martha Plimpton was right to walk away.

by Anonymousreply 98March 24, 2022 1:16 AM

Fun fact: River and Keanu were both uncut and together decided to get circumcised at the same time. I believe it was primarily because they didn't like to shower regularly and that was the best way to keep their dicks cleaner.

by Anonymousreply 99March 24, 2022 1:34 AM

That is neither fun nor funny.

by Anonymousreply 100March 24, 2022 1:50 AM

R99 what's the source for this? don't tell me you heard it on DL...

by Anonymousreply 101March 24, 2022 2:10 AM

I believe it was an assistant director on one of his films who said it in an interview.

by Anonymousreply 102March 24, 2022 2:23 AM

[Quote] He had massive levels of both cocaine and heroin in his body the night he died. Combined, they create this sort of morphine.

[Quote] Wow, that was an awesome 1O1 of alchemy, Professor Cuthbert Binns. Are you sure the morphine doesn't block their bowel movements too long to allow them to turn them into solid gold or do you also give them some carminative sage? Or maybe anise if I may ask?

[Quote] —Nicolas Flamel

^R28 is why I come here.

by Anonymousreply 103March 24, 2022 2:40 AM

Leonardo Dicaprio was already on his way when Phoenix died. His breakthrough This Boy's Life had been released and he had already filmed What's Eating Gilbert Grape. Phoenix would've been too old for The Basketball Diaries and Titanic.

by Anonymousreply 104March 24, 2022 3:35 AM

Why did Johnny Depp have to do some black magick voodoo to curse River? Depp hated competition though he acted like he didn't care about his fame. But just look at how Depp is today, it's karma. I doubt River would ever end up like a joke like Depp who lost his looks, his reputation and credibility.

by Anonymousreply 105January 22, 2023 7:39 PM

River’s autopsy report showed he was not a serious addict . His consumption of the speedball was in a cup . He did not know what was in cup. The autopsy indicated there were no injection marks , no signs drugs were snorted or smoked . The levels would kill a small horse . Who the hell willingly drinks a speedball? River was murdered and big cover up .

by Anonymousreply 106January 22, 2023 7:43 PM

Why was he murdered?

by Anonymousreply 107January 23, 2023 9:31 AM
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