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Princess Stephanie looks weird and sheepish

Attending her daughter's fashion show in Paris, Stephanie wears jeans?? Photos include awkward hugging between the two. And this matron hair isn't doing her any favors - esp. this Clairol brown mouse color.

I suppose she was always awkward and lacked the confidence that Caroline has. We can't all be fabulous.

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by Anonymousreply 256July 11, 2022 2:19 PM

Maybe she cut her hair herself. Prob got some tips from Charlene but did a much worse job

by Anonymousreply 1March 3, 2022 10:49 PM

My lands, Stephanie looks like Ray Liotta in that photo.

by Anonymousreply 2March 3, 2022 10:54 PM

That's what passes for a model now, hm?

by Anonymousreply 3March 3, 2022 10:56 PM

She looks like a flyover Phys Ed teacher chaperoning on prom night.

by Anonymousreply 4March 3, 2022 10:56 PM

I think it's a wig - not a very good one - but a wig. The daughter is cute & considering what a crazy mother she has, good on her for making something of herself besides just being chain smoking eurotrash.

But yes, she does resemble Ray Liotta & not in a good way...

by Anonymousreply 5March 3, 2022 11:00 PM

Is that the ugly one on the left? She's only 27??

by Anonymousreply 6March 3, 2022 11:03 PM

Causing your mother’s death sure does age a gal!

by Anonymousreply 7March 3, 2022 11:08 PM

For the record, as a kid in the early 90’s, I was obsessed with People magazine and was always shocked whenever Stephanie was treated like some great beauty. Even back then she looked like a smoker and hard drinker.

by Anonymousreply 8March 3, 2022 11:10 PM

She always came off a bit butch. But she fucked a million dudes too. So who knows?

by Anonymousreply 9March 3, 2022 11:14 PM

She had a hard life, ran away and joined the circus.

And it shows.

by Anonymousreply 10March 3, 2022 11:15 PM

Is s/he reverting back to the gender s/he was born with?

by Anonymousreply 11March 3, 2022 11:40 PM

The hairline on the daughter, though! I feel bad for her.

by Anonymousreply 12March 3, 2022 11:43 PM

Why doesn't she have a neck?? She's not that fat.

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by Anonymousreply 13March 3, 2022 11:49 PM

Is she OK?

by Anonymousreply 14March 3, 2022 11:50 PM

Daughter needs a chin implant.

by Anonymousreply 15March 3, 2022 11:50 PM

Stephanie was the Empress of EuroTrash. I disagree that she wasn't attractive. She was engulfed with a raw, vivacious energy. I know there were many of them, but there was one pic of her racing off in a convertible with a ciggie in her mouth that just screamed YOUNG RICH BEAUTIFUL DRUGGED OUT PRINCESS.

Better than Diana, with her come hither looking up through the eyelases fakerie.

by Anonymousreply 16March 3, 2022 11:51 PM

First, Princess Charlene gives herself a hairdo that is too butch even for Michfest. And, now, Princess Stephanie looks like she is the Captain of the Monaco Womyn's Softball League. WTF!I Is the water in the Principality enriched with testosterone?

by Anonymousreply 17March 3, 2022 11:56 PM

Stephanie looked great for a while.

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by Anonymousreply 18March 3, 2022 11:58 PM

My God, they were hit with the ugly stick.

by Anonymousreply 19March 3, 2022 11:58 PM

Nah, she was very pretty for the 1980s/early 90s, which is when that picture looks to be from (R18). That was a time when women weren't expected to be hyper-feminine. Looking tuff and androgynous was cool.

by Anonymousreply 20March 4, 2022 12:01 AM

I don't know them

by Anonymousreply 21March 4, 2022 12:01 AM

FFS you're the daughter and granddaughter of Grace Kelly! Look it!

by Anonymousreply 22March 4, 2022 12:02 AM

Don't they have hairdressers and plastic surgeons in Monaco?

by Anonymousreply 23March 4, 2022 12:04 AM

Yes, and great wig makers too

by Anonymousreply 24March 4, 2022 12:04 AM

Stephanie has always looked mannish, but no doubt a hard life life drinking, drugging, smoking caught up with her her. So instead of embracing her age & trying to look matronly (which her sister has accomplished), Stephanie tries to look younger to disastrous results.

Imagine those poor kids of Fat Albert's. "Now, mummy is in the rubber room, but don't worry children, Aunt Stephanie is here!" (enter woman looking like late stage Ray Liotta. Children scream & hide under their beds. But no worries, Fat Albert won't pull them out from under the beds until the next time they need to go on the balcony & waive!

by Anonymousreply 25March 4, 2022 12:05 AM

Never forget this hot 80s couple - they looked so alike!

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by Anonymousreply 26March 4, 2022 12:06 AM

Prolific doll collector. A grown woman playing with dolls daily will age horribly and well before her time.

by Anonymousreply 27March 4, 2022 12:07 AM

People forget that Prince Rainier was kind of fug himself. Very coarse facial features. And a royal fivehead for days.

by Anonymousreply 28March 4, 2022 12:09 AM

The Grimaldi lesbian

by Anonymousreply 29March 4, 2022 12:09 AM

I thought the idea of adding Grace Kelly to the gene pool would make our descendants better looking

by Anonymousreply 30March 4, 2022 12:12 AM

Originally Rainier considered Marilyn Monroe as a wife but he deemed her too fucked in the head

by Anonymousreply 31March 4, 2022 12:12 AM

Wow, her daughter there reminds me so much of Stephanie's youthful grin and devil-may-care attitude in photos at that age. Here, though, Stephanie evokes a Depression-era Dustbowl grandmother by way of Appalachia.

by Anonymousreply 32March 4, 2022 12:23 AM

Biiiiig Suits/Skinny Women. Not a good look.

by Anonymousreply 33March 4, 2022 12:33 AM

Wow! I don't see Ray Liotta, but I do see Bonnie Franklin. Very matronly-looking. Yes, she does look like a lesbian.

The beauty aesthetic of the '80s matched up with her looks in the '80s. Narrow hips, mannish face (Brooke Shields), thick eyebrows.

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by Anonymousreply 34March 4, 2022 12:48 AM

That’s what 50 years worth of smoking and sunning on the Riviera gets you.

Give up the cigs and wear sunscreen kids!

by Anonymousreply 35March 4, 2022 12:58 AM

Looked like a Cadinot gayporn model.

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by Anonymousreply 36March 4, 2022 1:04 AM

She fooled me.

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by Anonymousreply 37March 4, 2022 1:05 AM

She looks like Hedda Nussbaum after a few all nighters with Joel.

by Anonymousreply 38March 4, 2022 1:10 AM

It's a good thing for Princess Stephanie that she grew up rich. Like many royals, she doesn't have the brains or has any talent to even make a living equivalent to a middle-class income.

I've also noticed many women who were considered good looking back in the 80s look like manly shit today. Just look at Brook Shields and Katarina Witt. 🤮🤮🤮

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by Anonymousreply 39March 4, 2022 1:14 AM

I think she looks like an Eastern European grandma. European women will cut their hair short like that, as soon as they hit a certain age. 50? Some of them can pull it off, but I never understood why they did it. Yes, most women also look stupid with girlish long hair, but there’s plenty of room for something in the middle.

Very butch.

by Anonymousreply 40March 4, 2022 1:16 AM

I agree Stephanie is wearing a bad wig in OP's photo. I wonder if like her sister Caroline she contracted alopecia.

by Anonymousreply 41March 4, 2022 1:20 AM

I never really got the fascination with Katarina Witt’s looks. Everyone was talking about how beautiful she was. A banging body, yes, especially for a figure skater. But the face was basic AF.

by Anonymousreply 42March 4, 2022 1:21 AM

Witt would be an ok looking guy - maybe Stephanie if she didn't look so strung out.

by Anonymousreply 43March 4, 2022 2:18 AM

Kee-ryste! Did anyone look at the clothes and models in that fashion barf fest?

by Anonymousreply 44March 4, 2022 2:20 AM

Very amusing Stephanie stories in this old Vanity Fair article.

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by Anonymousreply 45March 4, 2022 2:37 AM

In olden times Stephanie would have been banished to the convent and she probably would have loved it! Girls, girls, girls!

by Anonymousreply 46March 4, 2022 3:00 AM

She’s looks like a Monegasque Bonnie Franklin.

by Anonymousreply 47March 4, 2022 3:05 AM

What a terrible wig. I mean just get an Eva Gabor! Surely she can afford that! Her eyebrows do look drawn on and feathered. I do feel badly if she does have alopecia but there is no excuse for a terrible wig. Even a gorgeous hermes scarf and huge sunglasses would look better.

by Anonymousreply 48March 4, 2022 3:05 AM

Cant believe she got old and didnt take care of herself. Whet to the rich and their coke

by Anonymousreply 49March 4, 2022 3:10 AM

It's a good thing for Princess Stephanie that she grew up rich. Like many royals, she doesn't have the brains or has any talent to even make a living equivalent to a middle-class income.

What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 50March 4, 2022 3:28 AM

She came out to her mother in the car that day and Grace veered off the road.

by Anonymousreply 51March 4, 2022 3:31 AM

Grace was a drunk driver driving a Rob Lowe look-a-like off the cliff. She deserved to die. Princess my ass. Took Stephanie weeks to get over it.

by Anonymousreply 52March 4, 2022 3:34 AM

She looks like a Ukrainian fishwife.

by Anonymousreply 53March 4, 2022 3:46 AM

There were a slew of sick copycat crimes!

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by Anonymousreply 54March 4, 2022 4:02 AM

At least her bolt-on implants are covered up. Steph seems like a sweet soul, who never quite found her place in the world. Her mom’s death hit her hard, especially because she was a major brat to her mom for a few years. I imagine she has a lot of survivors guilt.

by Anonymousreply 55March 4, 2022 5:10 AM

Steph is my hero. She was fucking Fredy Knie, owner of a famous Swiss circus, and spied a hot young acrobat, so dumped Fredy and shacked up with the hung gypsy in his caravan, and even travelled the circus route one summer. I mean, come on!!

by Anonymousreply 56March 4, 2022 5:35 AM

Stephanie was the missing Wilson Phillips.

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by Anonymousreply 57March 4, 2022 1:34 PM

Where is the link to this?? I must see it!

by Anonymousreply 58March 4, 2022 1:45 PM

Kindly repost OP's link.

by Anonymousreply 59March 4, 2022 11:33 PM

Whose sick joke was it to have her speeding around in the hills in #57's clip?

by Anonymousreply 60March 4, 2022 11:41 PM

[quote]Kindly repost OP's link

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by Anonymousreply 61March 4, 2022 11:44 PM

She had lovely tits. Where they natural?

by Anonymousreply 62March 4, 2022 11:45 PM

Hit in the face with a shovel, was inspired by Princess Stephanie of Monaco!

by Anonymousreply 63March 4, 2022 11:46 PM

I remember reading People or some such magazine about 10 years ago and thinking, who would have believed it if in 1983 you'd told them that someday Gloria Vanderbilt would look younger than Princess Stephanie?

by Anonymousreply 64March 4, 2022 11:54 PM

Listen, she was hot back in the day. And a train wreck. But she is a shell of herself now. I feel guilty even looking at this. But of course I did.

by Anonymousreply 65March 5, 2022 12:12 AM

Oh my

by Anonymousreply 66March 5, 2022 12:28 AM

[quote]I do feel badly if she does have alopecia but there is no excuse for a terrible wig.

She might just have very thin hair wiry, showing her scalp; post-menopause, some women tend to have thinner hair. But agreed, that's no excuse for a bad wig. She looks like she stopped by on her way to the Monaco Target rather than supporting her daughter at Fashion Week.

Even Fergie, messy trainwreck that she is, generally tends to be put together better than this. But I do feel kind of sorry for Stephanie - aside from being extremely spoiled, slutty & stupid, I don't think she's wrapped too tight

by Anonymousreply 67March 5, 2022 10:01 AM

Did Grace drink during the pregnancy? Maybe that's why Stephanie is so fucked up.

I like the red leather jacket though, gorgeous. The hair I think is just a bad dye job.

by Anonymousreply 68March 5, 2022 10:34 AM

The red leather jacket would be pretty on a younger, slimmer person, but the cut of the jacket - along with her big tits - makes her look like a trucker. Again - you ain't 20 anymore Steph! - if she wore something more slimming and subtle (and wore a scarf if she's self-conscious about her hair), she'd look better. But then again, there's no easy fix for that bad plastic surgery

by Anonymousreply 69March 5, 2022 10:38 AM

She had a perfect 80s look, razor sharp androgynous features and the only woman who never needed a dress with shoulder pads

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by Anonymousreply 70March 5, 2022 10:59 AM

^ That's Rob Lowe with eyeliner. Stephanie was never a beauty. She looks like an East German swimmer. Stop the revisionist history. All of Grace Kelly's children were plain to average to odd looking.

by Anonymousreply 71March 5, 2022 5:00 PM

Rainier looked like an Italian butcher and Stephanie got his looks. Caroline was pretty, but her nose is too short and she has the cheeks of a chipmunk. She has also coarsened over the years due to booze, cigarettes and Sun.

by Anonymousreply 72March 5, 2022 10:05 PM

Shaddup. My kids are 100 times better looking than Audrey's sprogs.

by Anonymousreply 73March 5, 2022 10:08 PM

You married for money and the title, Your Serene Highness, not for beauty. And your weathered, desiccated progeny show it.

by Anonymousreply 74March 5, 2022 10:10 PM

Stephanie's daughter here has a softer look and resembles Tante Caroline and her daughter. Steph's son is also kinda cute. But these offspring are still young. The Grimaldis age even worse than the Windsors. Caroline is the only one who never turned into a fking gorgon.

by Anonymousreply 75March 6, 2022 3:05 AM

Damn! All that smoking caught up to her.

by Anonymousreply 76March 6, 2022 3:24 AM

^... drugs... booze... sun... rough men... car crashes...

by Anonymousreply 77March 6, 2022 3:27 AM

Here she is with children at the AID gala last summer. I was there. She doesn't look horrible. Her son Louis Ducruet could be good looking in a Dastardly Dan way but he has a flasque body and is slovenly. The father was handsome young, even now a bit, but has an odd chin. Stephanie mostly looks fine nowadays and reasonably content in her dotage. She was always more interesting than anyone else in that family except mom. People forget or overlook for her classy beauty but Grace had a wild streak and was a slut. Like mother like daughter.

by Anonymousreply 78March 6, 2022 10:01 AM

oops - pic

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by Anonymousreply 79March 6, 2022 10:01 AM

@r71, "^ That's Rob Lowe with eyeliner. "

As a young Gay man in the 80s the fact that Stephanie looked like Rob Lowe wasn't exactly a turn off

by Anonymousreply 80March 6, 2022 10:10 AM

Even the lovely Andrea Casiraghi, he of the flowing locks and yacht nudes, is looking somewhat rough these days.

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by Anonymousreply 81March 6, 2022 10:35 AM

The entire Grimaldi family could be a poster for rich Euro-trash

by Anonymousreply 82March 6, 2022 10:40 AM

Stephanie has always looked rather mannish in the face. That photo with her daughter looks like she's been under the knife way too many times.

by Anonymousreply 83March 6, 2022 10:43 AM

[quote]Even the lovely Andrea Casiraghi, he of the flowing locks and yacht nudes, is looking somewhat rough these days.

He was such a beautiful young thing; shame about the hair, but his looks are also the result of hard living

by Anonymousreply 84March 6, 2022 11:25 AM

Yikes. He was a beauty and now this. His father was beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 85March 6, 2022 12:12 PM

It was clear at the time he was 20 that Andrea Casiraghi was peaking. A discerning eye can see such things.

by Anonymousreply 86March 6, 2022 12:18 PM

That pic @ R79 looks like they are celebrating "mom's 10 day sober" after 35 years of drinking every guy in the village under the table parties.

Steph looks horrible!

by Anonymousreply 87March 6, 2022 1:30 PM

How many baby-daddies does Steph have again?

by Anonymousreply 88March 6, 2022 1:31 PM

^ Wait, I need to take my shoes off to finish the count

by Anonymousreply 89March 6, 2022 1:33 PM

[quote]Stephanie evokes a Depression-era Dustbowl grandmother by way of Appalachia.

Love this description.

by Anonymousreply 90March 6, 2022 1:45 PM

It's not the sun(tanning) fault if she aged terribly. It's the obvius botox, drugs and bad genes. The only aging process the sun can cause is wrinkle and spots, but she has nothing of it, she's just bloated and butched and oveweight. If she lost weight she would look ok

by Anonymousreply 91March 6, 2022 2:36 PM

[quote] It's the obvius botox, drugs and bad genes

Don't forget us!

by Anonymousreply 92March 6, 2022 2:41 PM

That wig is tragic

by Anonymousreply 93March 6, 2022 2:49 PM

Her mother aged poorly and became bloated as well.

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by Anonymousreply 94March 6, 2022 2:52 PM

Tragic!

by Anonymousreply 95March 6, 2022 3:10 PM

Stephanie has had very bad plastic surgery. She smokes and drinks and spends time in the sun.

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by Anonymousreply 96March 6, 2022 3:14 PM

Too much sun and a noticeable boob job. Both Caroline and Stephanie are/were pretty flat chested.

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by Anonymousreply 97March 6, 2022 3:16 PM

Camille Gottlieb, Princess Stéphanie‘s younger daughter, looks like she's had work done especially her nose.

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by Anonymousreply 98March 6, 2022 3:21 PM

She looks like smoke, mirrors, and fard. beaucoup de fard.

by Anonymousreply 99March 6, 2022 3:24 PM

I thought that was Lindsay Lohan.

by Anonymousreply 100March 6, 2022 3:30 PM

At R79 the one in the gold floor length shirt looks like she's suffering from bad pregnancy back ache.

by Anonymousreply 101March 6, 2022 3:36 PM

From the looks of that new butch cut I won't be shocked if she suddenly decides she wants to be known as Peg.

by Anonymousreply 102March 6, 2022 3:37 PM

"Her mother aged poorly and became bloated as well. "

Mommy was a booze hound too

by Anonymousreply 103March 6, 2022 3:58 PM

[quote]Camille Gottlieb, Princess Stéphanie‘s younger daughter, looks like she's had work done especially her nose.

The younger one has giant injected lips too.

by Anonymousreply 104March 6, 2022 4:34 PM

It's not my fault she aged that bad, stop guilt tripping me for people bad genes

by Anonymousreply 105March 7, 2022 10:47 AM

Grace seemed to have turned to food for comfort. And booze. No wonder she had a stroke. Life in Monaco must’ve been so stifling to her. And now, Charlene.

by Anonymousreply 106March 7, 2022 3:24 PM

So Grace liked a few drinks. So what? She actually was a great Serene Highness and ambassador. The only reason the Monaco royals are still on the map.

by Anonymousreply 107March 8, 2022 7:32 AM

I know after a few vodkas that I'm pretty serene myself

by Anonymousreply 108March 8, 2022 7:40 AM

Stephanie has three kids?

The fashion designer daughter is pretty, the one to the right in the group shot.

by Anonymousreply 109March 8, 2022 8:39 AM

Isn't one of those kids from the Palace chef? Or some other help?

by Anonymousreply 110March 8, 2022 9:52 PM

sometimes Stephanie lives in a Winnebago that she parks on the streets of Monaco. A billionaire kook.

by Anonymousreply 111March 8, 2022 10:00 PM

She had a kid with the gypsy trapeze artist but the kid disappeared young. They say he ran away to join the.... oh.... um... never mind.

by Anonymousreply 112March 8, 2022 10:00 PM

One kid is from her bodyguard.

by Anonymousreply 113March 8, 2022 10:05 PM

She’s free to do as she wants, but what have Albert and Caroline said to her about her behavior over the years? Rainier all but threw up his hands in desperation and resignation.

by Anonymousreply 114March 8, 2022 11:05 PM

^ She's on a tight financial leash

by Anonymousreply 115March 8, 2022 11:09 PM

Can we start a gofundme to get Prinny Steph a couple decent lace front wigs?

She looks more busted than Shangela on Season TWO!

by Anonymousreply 116March 8, 2022 11:36 PM

Good nutrition has given her some length of bone, but she's just a few generations from County Mayo, isn't she?

by Anonymousreply 117March 8, 2022 11:43 PM

Stephanie has never been seen at continental royal events, unlike her sister Caroline who has filled in as First Lady of Monaco, and also in her position as Princess of Hanover. As far as I know, Stephanie doesn’t have the grand cross of Monaco’s highest order, like Caroline does, nor has she ever worn a tiara, unlike Caroline. Some princess.

by Anonymousreply 118March 9, 2022 9:55 AM

[Quote]On 12 September 2003, Stéphanie married Portuguese acrobat Adans Lopez Peres, a member of Knie's circus ensemble.[35] The marriage ended in divorce on 24 November 2004

Oh, yes, there was the acrobat husband for a year as well. After she dumped the elephant trainer. I kind of love Stef for being so nuts. She's probably fun

by Anonymousreply 119March 9, 2022 10:12 AM

Can you imagine being a wealthy Princess and you deepest desire is to live, work and breed with circus people?

by Anonymousreply 120March 9, 2022 11:14 AM

She seemed to be have an ongoing desire to throw a fuck you to her family, but didn't really have the smarts or the gumption to make it on her on terms, so she had to resort to crazy antics like fucking the help & (literally) running off with the circus. She also seems to have some mental health issues, though living around Fat Albert & that bitchy Caroline clearly isn't easy either - ask Charlene!

by Anonymousreply 121March 9, 2022 12:05 PM

But has she ever been to me?

by Anonymousreply 122March 9, 2022 7:41 PM

Sometimes, DL....sometimes it takes like me to help a youngster like Princess Stephanie....find her way.

by Anonymousreply 123March 9, 2022 8:07 PM

Monaco has a Festival of Circus annually. It's quite magnificent and Grace brought in many of her Hollywood pals to attend the charity performances.

My impression is that circus performers are unfairly judged when there is often some fine performance art there. In Europe anyway. . I could see how Stephanie would be attracted to this. It's a bit like Broadway on saw dust.

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by Anonymousreply 125March 9, 2022 8:42 PM

^ One can appreciate a circus performance without running away and breeding with them ;-)

by Anonymousreply 126March 9, 2022 8:48 PM

R113

Her three kids are from two different bodyguards:

- Daniel Ducruet (Louis and Pauline)

- Jean-Raymond Gottlieb (Camille)

by Anonymousreply 127March 9, 2022 9:09 PM

Louis Ducruet is quite handsome

by Anonymousreply 128March 10, 2022 12:02 AM

R117 Genes are funny. In the other direction, Grace Kelly’s astonishing beauty mostly fizzled out in two generations, Charlotte excepted.

by Anonymousreply 129March 10, 2022 4:11 AM

[quote]Genes are funny. In the other direction, Grace Kelly’s astonishing beauty mostly fizzled out in two generations, Charlotte excepted.

It's like those WASP Main Line genes never had a chance against that Mediterranean peasant stock; Albert kind of has them, but he also has his father's doughy pudgy build, all totally up to just some average white guy

by Anonymousreply 130March 10, 2022 9:45 AM

Grace wasn't a WASP. She was Irish Catholic.

by Anonymousreply 131March 10, 2022 10:10 AM

Grace’s paternal side was Irish Catholic. Her mother was a German Lutheran.

by Anonymousreply 132March 10, 2022 10:20 AM

I used to think PS was the shit!; A badass princess racing down a ski slope listening to Rock & Roll with a cigarette hanging from her mouth. Then she joined a circus- hmmm. And I grew up.

by Anonymousreply 133March 10, 2022 10:34 AM

Who originally persuaded her that she should be a rock star and make records and music videos?

by Anonymousreply 134March 10, 2022 10:56 AM

^ The little voice inside her head that told her she should drive the car off the cliff

by Anonymousreply 135March 10, 2022 11:41 AM

The German genes from Princess Grace sure fucked up her daughters faces , especially Stephanie who has her mother's EXACT jaw and sneer lip and German "man brow" similar to Frida Kahlo, Katerina Witt, Nicole Brown-Simpson, etc, etc. It's a specific German look in men and women harsh brow and jaw, that Princess grace's Irishness softened. As a an , the ex Germany goalkeeper Oliver Kahn exemplifies this harsh brow and jaw combination.

by Anonymousreply 136March 10, 2022 11:44 AM

R135- Lolol! I had forgotten that! I don't remember how or why that happened but it never should have.

by Anonymousreply 137March 10, 2022 11:44 AM

WTF r136. Germans are HOT. Post your photo, fat whore.

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by Anonymousreply 138March 10, 2022 10:34 PM

"Germans are HOT"

Sure Jan...

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by Anonymousreply 139March 10, 2022 10:40 PM

Yes, hot (if you want a Lady example).

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by Anonymousreply 140March 10, 2022 10:47 PM

Claudia Schiffer is the most ordinary looking model of all time. She looks like she sells clothes at the mall. No country or people has a corner on "hotness."

It's a dangerous and racist and very OLD fashioned way to categorize looks.

by Anonymousreply 141March 10, 2022 10:52 PM

Germans considered Claudia to look like a "stupid cow barbie"

by Anonymousreply 142March 10, 2022 10:58 PM

Grace's siblings were attractive as well. Sometimes all the genetics come together to create one REALLY good looking generation sandwiched between average or fug generations. I think my father was the best looking of his siblings but they were strong and attractive. But me and my siblings and cousins were mostly stunners. Then my the generation after me, went back to normal with only a few beauties or handsome guys.

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by Anonymousreply 143March 10, 2022 11:03 PM

^ That's funny, I remember reading that the Kellys thought Grace was awkward and geeky compared to the rest of them

by Anonymousreply 144March 10, 2022 11:10 PM

Grace Kelly had a heavy jaw and hooded eyes. She was definitely pretty when she was VERY thin and Hollywood blonde. And well lit. Her beauty was very generic. Great beauties have something either classic or unique about their looks. Grace Kelly was a very attractive woman. Like a political wife of the 50s and 60s. Which is exactly what she turned out to be.

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by Anonymousreply 145March 10, 2022 11:12 PM

^ Ok, but she was still a knockout

by Anonymousreply 146March 10, 2022 11:14 PM

Poor Grace. So plain.

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by Anonymousreply 147March 10, 2022 11:15 PM

That is a very generically pretty woman R147. Exactly my point about Grace Kelly. She may have been a whore in real life but she had no sex appeal onscreen and not enough going on but even features and blonde hair to be considered a real beauty. She was pretty.

by Anonymousreply 148March 10, 2022 11:19 PM

^ Ok, we get it, you don't think she was all that. Most of the world disagrees

by Anonymousreply 149March 10, 2022 11:21 PM

I loved the Princess in this ensemble 👇🏽

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by Anonymousreply 150March 10, 2022 11:22 PM

Genetics are like ingredients. Get the exact right balance from even two NOT so sensational genetic contributors, and BAM! Extraordinary beauty is realized!

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by Anonymousreply 151March 10, 2022 11:52 PM

At least Liz had a chin. And luscious coloring. And full lips. And Raven Hair and amazing eyes. And a beautiful heart shaped face. She was kind of astounding looking from the neck up. Not in ^ that photo though. Liz also had an exquisite nose. Was she born with it? It was a hella fine job if she wasn't.

Grace had too much jaw, not much chin, heavy lidded colorless eyes and thin lips. Nice even features. When she starved herself and was whatever color of blonde they made her - she emerged quite beautiful. 3/4 profile - from the right side with her chin angled forward. Lots of lipstick.

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by Anonymousreply 152March 11, 2022 12:53 AM

However, Elizabeth was a stump.

by Anonymousreply 153March 11, 2022 1:02 AM

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by Anonymousreply 154March 11, 2022 1:08 AM

Eclipsed

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by Anonymousreply 155March 11, 2022 1:19 AM

^ That's the pose I mentioned! She looks like a stamp. Colorless and lifeless. 25 years older than her real age. She's thrusting her week chin forward and trying in vain to bring light to her eyes. Grace Kelly was never a beauty outside of Hollywood. She needed the lighting and studio magic that existed there.

She was stiff as a board. Twice as boring.

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by Anonymousreply 156March 11, 2022 1:21 AM

^^ that photographer should have been shot. Everything is wrong with the staging.

by Anonymousreply 157March 11, 2022 1:24 AM

Jackie looks like a gargoyle at r155. She had great style and she was always fashionably under-weight, but not movie star material.

by Anonymousreply 158March 11, 2022 1:37 AM

Jackie could put on both earrings at the same time, without a mirror!

by Anonymousreply 159March 11, 2022 1:39 AM

At R151, Liz's eyes look like her dad's. In that photo,Liz's nose looks very similar to her mom's, but less downturned. Exact same lower half of face as her mom. Mom has a longer midface, which gives people a "horse" face. Liz doesn't have that long midface.

by Anonymousreply 160March 11, 2022 2:20 AM

Why so much misinformation about Grace here?

1. Grace's mother was Catholic.

2. Grace was born/baptised Catholic, so no, not a WASP.

3. Grace was Philly Main Line only in a geo sense. Because her family was neither old money or Protestant they were not accepted into high society. So not Main Line as the term is commonly referenced.

by Anonymousreply 161March 11, 2022 2:24 AM

Some people are confused by WASP, thinking it white Anglo Saxon person. Protestant, and not person.

by Anonymousreply 162March 11, 2022 2:33 AM

Nowadays many people struggle with the factoid that Gone With The Wind was NOT filmed in 1860s or soon after the war. Some even consider it more or less a documentary. Of course Grace Kelly is what she played on screen. People are dumb.

by Anonymousreply 163March 11, 2022 9:23 AM

R161, Margaret Majer Kelly converted to Catholicism at her marriage. Margaret may have died Catholic, but her background was Protestant.

My copy of GRACE by Robert Lacey states that on p. 29.

Grace’s family felt Grace was awkward because they were super jocks, and she wasn’t athletic or outgoing.

by Anonymousreply 164March 11, 2022 10:39 AM

That kid was fucked up from the day she saw the light.

The other two kids didn't do so well, either

The Grimaldis have Euro Trash in their DNA.

by Anonymousreply 165March 11, 2022 11:34 AM

R164 Oh, she turned up plenty athletic and outgoing.

Just not at sports.

by Anonymousreply 166March 11, 2022 11:35 AM

^ Well, she got an Oscar instead of a Gold Medal

by Anonymousreply 167March 11, 2022 11:44 AM

Grace's brother John Jr was stunningly sexy and fresh looking. I believe this is his son. So, Grace's nephew.

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by Anonymousreply 168March 11, 2022 11:45 AM

^ Nice to see those good Kelly genes landed somewhere

by Anonymousreply 169March 11, 2022 11:50 AM

Because of this thread I mentioned Grace Kelly to my elderly mother and she said, "Lovely girl, but a bit of a tramp you know?" I guess her Hollywood reputation goes back a long way

by Anonymousreply 170March 11, 2022 11:54 AM

Yeah and he managed to graduate from Harvard and worked productively as a banker. Do any of the Grimaldi branch have ANY education?

by Anonymousreply 171March 11, 2022 12:07 PM

^ Prince Baldy is very well educated and pretty smart, but still trash

by Anonymousreply 172March 11, 2022 12:10 PM

Ah thanks. I see he graduated from Amherst. What about his sisters' spawn?

by Anonymousreply 173March 11, 2022 12:15 PM

The white lady my grandma worked for was the sweetest, kindest woman who doted on my brother and I, especially when her children grew up and moved away. She lived in Chestnut Hill. I’d go with my grandma in the summertime to help her out with the cleaning. But I always ended up in their massive library, pulling out encyclopedias and magazines. They didn’t mind it, though Grandma would get annoyed. We were eating lunch in the kitchen one day and the small television was on, on top of the counter. The local news was talking about Princess Grace visiting family in Philadelphia. We all watched it. For some reason, I blurted, “ Did you ever meet her, Mrs. ____?

Silence. The Mrs. suddenly changed the subject. That’s what I learned about WASPS - if something was too unpleasant to talk about, they’d change the subject!

As we drove home that afternoon, my grandma said that no one ever mentioned the Kellys at this woman’s house. The family detested them. When I got older, my grandma explained that they thought Jack Kelly, Sr. was a loudmouth and cheated customers in his construction business, and Margaret Kelly put on airs. And that Grace, grandma said, “showed her wares to many menfolk…”. Grace had something of a reputation even before she went to Hollywood!

by Anonymousreply 174March 11, 2022 7:21 PM

^ See, even elderly ladies who never say boo, had Grace's number :)

by Anonymousreply 175March 11, 2022 7:36 PM

nonetheless, Grace was a good consort to The Prince of Monaco and raised the profile of the little principality considerably.

by Anonymousreply 176March 12, 2022 10:30 AM

[quote]showed her wares to many menfolk

I love that line!

by Anonymousreply 177March 12, 2022 11:15 AM

Ray Milland's wife on the affair Milland hadvwith Grace during the filming of Dial M for Murder:

"She came along with those nice white gloves and helped herself to my husband."

Grace was a ruthless borderline nympho whore. She fucked a dozen of the hottest men in Hollywood regardless of marital status, and then married an ugly little toad for a more secure lifetime role.

Surprise, surprise, it didn't all quite go according to plan and she didn't up in a particularly happy place.

"Monaco, a sunny place for shady people." I think Noel Coward said that.

And they wonder why those kids had little to no moral anchoring, self-discipline, or depth.

A fucking Sovereign Prince with a slew of illegitimate kids.

Eurotrash to the bone.

by Anonymousreply 178March 12, 2022 12:22 PM

[Quote]Grace was a ruthless borderline nympho whore. She fucked a dozen of the hottest men in Hollywood

And this is a bad thing? The rest of Hollywood was doing the same.

by Anonymousreply 179March 12, 2022 1:01 PM

^ But Grace looked Waspy and virginal, so being a whore doesn't fly with the image

by Anonymousreply 180March 12, 2022 1:07 PM

Why did Grace Kelly become a borderline nympho? Did her parents neglect her and instill in her an insecurity about being loved?

by Anonymousreply 181March 12, 2022 2:30 PM

^ She liked dick

by Anonymousreply 182March 12, 2022 4:16 PM

R179 - The rest of Hollywood didn't spend the rest of its life pretending to be a deeply religious Catholic.

Her family made a huge deal of it. She was a complete hypocrite.

by Anonymousreply 183March 12, 2022 6:47 PM

She might have fucked "hot" men, but they were old enough to be her father or grandfather. Hitchcock is supposed to have said that Ingrid Bergman would fuck a doorknob. I guess he liked to cast nymphomaniacs. Glark Gable and Ray Milland and Bing Crosby were NOT hot men in the 1950s. Grace was a whore.

by Anonymousreply 184March 12, 2022 9:14 PM

Grace had to act uber-Catholic in her married years because her husband was a Catholic Sovereign, and they would be expected to call on The Pope when in Rome. The current Grimaldis don’t seem particularly religious though.

by Anonymousreply 185March 12, 2022 9:22 PM

Grace certainly had daddy issues as John B. Kelly prized athletic success over any other accomplishments.

by Anonymousreply 186March 12, 2022 10:37 PM

Grace’s family had a comfortable life, but her family dynamic was similar to many Catholic families of the time. Too many children, the middle kids tended to get ignored or maybe just caught up in the shuffle of activities. Grace’s beauty was her ticket out.

by Anonymousreply 187March 12, 2022 10:40 PM

Ok, I'm not a Grace Kelly fan. Rear Window excepted. She was great window dressing in that.

But I know that she starred in not many films but quickly became a HUGE star. She costarred with Sinatra, Clark Gable and Cary Grant. Worked with Hitchcock at least 3 times. WON an Academy Award. Was the most elegant and beautiful star of her time. So why at 26 years old did she pay two million dollars to marry the Prince of Monaco? Was it pure snobbery? Did she hate Hollywood? Was it love?

My question is sincere.

by Anonymousreply 188March 12, 2022 11:05 PM

I'm no expert but I remember reading that she felt her career options were limiting as she got older, she genuinely did want to get married & have children, but the men she wanted didn't want her (or already had wives), the status of PRINCESS was fuck you to her hyper competitive Kennedy like family that never gave her any real respect and Ranier could be very charming when he wanted to be. She probably figured because she was the hot Hollywood actress & he was the short homely little prince that she'd lead him around by the nose, only to discover that he'd screw around on her for the duration of their marriage.

by Anonymousreply 189March 12, 2022 11:16 PM

Had she remained an actress she’d have ended up on THE LOVE BOAT or worse, MURDER, SHE WROTE.

by Anonymousreply 190March 12, 2022 11:34 PM

Back to Stephanie: This thread made me nostalgic for the days when I used to love going to the newsstand to pick up Paris Match magazine which seemed so sophisticated then- Alain Delon, BB, minor Euro royalty…

So here’s Stephanie and Albert at a recent unveiling of a tacky Wonder Woman poster celebrating International Women’s Day. If this was my job, I’d be bonkers too.

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by Anonymousreply 191March 12, 2022 11:36 PM

Thanks, R189. Times sure have changed. Imagine giving up so much of her future at only 26 years old? I saw in some old A&E biography that Grace Kelly is one person that left Hollywood who DID want to occasionally return to acting. But it was not permitted by her strict husband, of course. She seemed a pretty unhappy woman.

by Anonymousreply 192March 12, 2022 11:36 PM

Stephanie and Rob Lowe…I wonder how they were as a couple. She could have married him and had some good looking children.

by Anonymousreply 193March 12, 2022 11:43 PM

The rumor is that Rainier put out an offer to marry Marilyn before Grace met with him. Monaco is smaller than Central Park. Grace made a raw deal.

Marilyn would have run off with Castro if he asked. That would be a lot more fun.

by Anonymousreply 194March 12, 2022 11:44 PM

There is a very good description of why she married Rainier in Gore Vidal’s “Palimpsest” which reflects what R189 states. If I wasn’t heading out to lunch I’d find it.

by Anonymousreply 195March 12, 2022 11:47 PM

Grace was no bigger whore than anybody else in Hollywood at the time. They all fucked each other. She probably had female hook-ups as well. Nor was she a hypocrite. Turn to Loretta Young for that title.

by Anonymousreply 196March 13, 2022 2:05 AM

R196- what do you mean at the time? They’re all whores still

by Anonymousreply 197March 13, 2022 4:11 AM

True but Old Hollywood was a small local group. A small community with easy access to each other via the studio system.

Cinecitta in Rome was like this back in the day as well. A small group of Euro super stars who all had each other.

by Anonymousreply 198March 13, 2022 1:44 PM

Whatever you think of Stephanie, she's been doing a lot charity work over the years for Aids/HIV.

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by Anonymousreply 199March 13, 2022 6:51 PM

Monaco has a population of 40,000 people. All the poor people with AIDS! What a bogus royalty the whole damn sham family is. They have to make some appearances to justify the millions they are paid every year. 40,000 people! They should behead every single Grimaldi. Monaco is a shady place to live. Ain't nobody not on the take.

Princess Grace died with $10,000 to her name and some old cottage in Ireland that her grandfather left her. The House of Grimaldi USED Grace Kelly to keep and build their billion dollar fortune - that her trifling children enjoy. The family are paid approximately 50 million Euro per year. Prince Albert is worth 150 million with assets of over a billion dollars.

Grace Kelly was fucked up and fucked over. She made a huge mistake. Can't divorce a Catholic Prince.

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by Anonymousreply 200March 13, 2022 7:47 PM

^ I don't get it, she had everything she wanted, Catholic or not she could have left and gone back to Hollywood, but I guess that would be admitting her mistake

by Anonymousreply 201March 13, 2022 9:38 PM

R201, if you’re talking about Grace, if she’d left Rainier yo return to Hollywood, she’d have lost the kids. The marriage contract stipulated that Rainier would retain custody of any children.

by Anonymousreply 202March 13, 2022 10:07 PM

I imagine that Charlene has a similar arrangement with Albert regarding their own children.

by Anonymousreply 203March 13, 2022 11:51 PM

Come ON! Grace was not a victim. And whatever her personal holdings showed when she died, these are not her total wealth. Just her personal wealth as Grace Kelly. Not as Serene Highness of Monaco.

by Anonymousreply 204March 14, 2022 12:43 AM

She was clearly a victim. A victim of the patriarchy and a victim of her family's expectations, a victim of Catholic guilt, a victim of her time when a young woman was unable to live her life sexually open as free as she would be today. She was a victim of being lied to and artistically silenced by her husband. She had no plans to quit acting - that is all she ever wanted to be. Once he had her married - her films were banned in Monaco and her husband made the announcement that she would not be returning to acting.

Grace Kelly was a short sighted snob who had made a slutty name for herself and craved both a way out of that and some way to finally impress her competitive and repressed family. She WAS a victim of her own very BAD decision. She was a female victim of her time and circumstance.

There can be no doubt about it. Ava Gardner and Marilyn lived hedonistic lives - and were ostracized and paid the price too. Snickered about and drank too much. But they owned their souls.

Grace Kelly signed a bad deal. Her marriage license. And paid $2 million dollars to that FROG for the privilege of him fucking around on her for 26 years. She was most certainly a victim.

by Anonymousreply 205March 14, 2022 1:21 AM

Were the wives of the married men who she fucked, victims, R205?

by Anonymousreply 206March 14, 2022 1:42 AM

^ Good one

by Anonymousreply 207March 14, 2022 1:57 AM

What would she say about her children now if she were alive? She spoiled Stephanie. Her doctor told her not to have any more pregnancies after she had a bad miscarriage when Stephanie was a toddler. So, she spoiled her. More than her two older children.

by Anonymousreply 208March 14, 2022 2:06 AM

Your double post is a non sequitur R206 and R207. (I can smell that you're the same poster) It has nothing to do with what I said about Grace Kelly being a victim. You have a very tiny, mundane intellect. Wanting to preserve some idea of her "Serene Highness of Monaco." She ruled over 25,000 people in a country smaller than Central Park. Her husband and the Catholic church ruled her life. She was miserable. Raw deal. Grace Kelly was a victim. Grace sold her soul for nothing. And PAID for it with lifelong unhappiness.

Do the wives of the men you sucked off at gloryholes back in the 70s feel like victims, R206?

Of gonorrhea maybe. But they're all dead now. So should you.

by Anonymousreply 209March 14, 2022 2:09 AM

^ Nope, but nice try Frau freak

by Anonymousreply 210March 14, 2022 2:24 AM

It’s nice that you’ve googled “non sequitur” R209 but sadly you still don’t know its definition.

I took the time to look at your posting history and can see that you are unhinged. Not that that was ever in any doubt.

Now put the crack pipe down and go back to rocking in your chair while clutching yourself and frantically refreshing your screen, you sad little person.

by Anonymousreply 211March 14, 2022 4:20 AM

^ I'm r207, who are you?

by Anonymousreply 212March 14, 2022 4:24 AM

Huh? R211. You're the same nutcase that follows me and harasses posters all over this site R207. You're also R206. You post hundreds of times a day on Datalounge from a few accounts. You ain't slick.

You're that ancient white RACIST f@g who upholds "traditional" values.🤣🤣

I'm a KING.

May Jesus visit healing to your troubled mind this night. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

by Anonymousreply 213March 14, 2022 4:45 AM

^ Tell me you're a nut case without telling me your a nut case

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo

by Anonymousreply 214March 14, 2022 4:48 AM

Stephanie always pinged gay to me and I'm a guy. So it surprises that she turned out to be such a cockgobbler.

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by Anonymousreply 215March 14, 2022 4:54 AM

^ That's because she was built like a guy, she loved dick as much as her sister and mother

by Anonymousreply 216March 14, 2022 4:56 AM

Not just her build.

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by Anonymousreply 217March 14, 2022 5:01 AM

^ It was the 80s, women looked androgynous

by Anonymousreply 218March 14, 2022 5:05 AM

She looks like Brad Pitt at R217.

by Anonymousreply 219March 14, 2022 5:07 AM

Women didn't just suddenly look androgynous. R218 is a fool. Stephanie was a horny bitch but she was not much a woman. She looked like a asymmetrical robot. Fuckable. But not if you liked girls.

by Anonymousreply 220March 14, 2022 5:08 AM

She still wasn't gay

by Anonymousreply 221March 14, 2022 5:11 AM

Bisexuality was big in the 80s. It was promoted via movies and music videos. People identified with it.

by Anonymousreply 222March 14, 2022 5:13 AM

@r220 You're an asshole, but you probably already knew that from everyone telling you

by Anonymousreply 223March 14, 2022 5:13 AM

She wasn't bisexually, she liked dick and a lot of it

by Anonymousreply 224March 14, 2022 5:14 AM

Did she go through a noir phase? Looking a bit thicker than usual in this pic with corn rows. Very "down at da club."

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by Anonymousreply 225March 14, 2022 5:22 AM

It was called a Bo Derek phase... What is wrong with you?

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by Anonymousreply 226March 14, 2022 5:25 AM

I get more W&Ws everytime I post than I notice, r223. Sometimes people disagree with me, but only you attempt to discredit my expertise, sensitivity and intelligence. It never works. Like that crack pipe remark you vomited upthread? What kind of cheap white belt man are you? An old white RACIST disgrace. You worship the cheap icons from 45 t0 70 years ago when you still had a chance of getting fucked.

And you do it hundreds of times a day on Datalounge.

If no one told you already that you're a sad ANCIENT WHITE RACIST F@G - it's because more than half the posts on this thread are ALL from your multiple accounts!

by Anonymousreply 227March 14, 2022 5:31 AM

^ Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo ^

by Anonymousreply 228March 14, 2022 5:39 AM

As I said previously, R227, you need to put the crack pipe down. Then get about 72 hours’ sleep. Eat some healthy food. Get a grip.

Your “expertise, sensitivity and intelligence” aren’t exactly on display from your crazed postings - but I’m sure that you’re better than those, right?

by Anonymousreply 229March 14, 2022 5:44 AM

^ Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo ^

by Anonymousreply 230March 14, 2022 5:47 AM

R213 Your imaginary sky friend - “Jesus”, is it? - doesn’t exist, but if talking to him gets you through another night of torture then that’s just sweet!

by Anonymousreply 231March 14, 2022 5:50 AM

^ Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo ^

by Anonymousreply 232March 14, 2022 5:51 AM

^ I'm sorry for your suffering. Mental illness is no joke. Even worse when mixed with non stop days of using Meth. You've been through this before, R229. Jussie Smollett loves you.

We see your meltdowns ALL over this site tonight. May jesus visit healing to your troubled mind and body. WE hope you feel more like your evil cunt self soon. You are more to be despised than pitied.

Princess Stephanie was ugly. Sorry for your loss.

by Anonymousreply 233March 14, 2022 7:19 AM

^^^ put the pipe down

by Anonymousreply 234March 14, 2022 7:30 AM

@r233, Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, beware, stay clear

by Anonymousreply 235March 14, 2022 10:23 AM

Incroyable.

Elle a morflé, la Stéphanie.

Genre grave.

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by Anonymousreply 236March 22, 2022 5:57 AM

She will make those flowers wilt if she stares at them for too long…

by Anonymousreply 237March 22, 2022 3:53 PM

Est-ce Mickey Rourke?

by Anonymousreply 238March 22, 2022 11:04 PM

r155 I will NEVER understand why Jackie O was considered a beauty.

by Anonymousreply 239July 5, 2022 9:17 PM

R239, my mother said that she wasn’t really beautiful, but she was glamorous. Same as Diana Ross or Princess Diana.

by Anonymousreply 240July 5, 2022 11:19 PM

FF deranged R213 / R227 for using the word "fag" on the Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 241July 5, 2022 11:47 PM

Stephanie's daughter also has very thin unfortunate hair. I don't believe I've ever seen a tinier bun.

by Anonymousreply 242July 5, 2022 11:50 PM

The daughter is starring in a documentary.

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by Anonymousreply 243July 5, 2022 11:53 PM

It doesn't matter what she looks like, she's still a princess who owns multiple homes on the French riviera and has sucked more premium straight cock than even the most delusional DL fantasist.

by Anonymousreply 244July 6, 2022 1:49 AM

Stephanie was born homely and got uglier and harder with every passing year after she was twelve years old.

Not one of Grace's children inherited the level of beauty that Grace was born with; those coarse Monegasque monkey-like genes ran interference big-time. Carolyn was the only one who looked actually pretty, but her short chin and too small nose threw the balance of her face off. She was only ever going to look pretty whilst the bloom of youth clung to her.

None of them got Grace's fine-boned symmetrical beauty.

by Anonymousreply 245July 6, 2022 6:11 PM

Grace was like fine porcelain stacked with the everyday clunky dinnerware.

by Anonymousreply 246July 6, 2022 6:29 PM

R174, "she showed her wares to the menfolk", is absolutely hilarious. I would've loved to meet your grandma.

by Anonymousreply 247July 6, 2022 7:19 PM

She looks terrible. Post menopause, some women become very masculine looking and harsh.

Joan Crawford is a prime example. A writer coined the phrase "post menopausal virility" regarding Crawford's appearance after1950. (This was mentioned in the Bette vs. Joan book, by Shaun Considine.)

by Anonymousreply 248July 6, 2022 7:38 PM

A lot of the Grimaldi ugliness comes from Princess Charlotte, daughter of a laundress whose mother got knocked up by Prince Rainier’s grandfather Prince Louis II.

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by Anonymousreply 249July 9, 2022 11:02 AM

What is this about Grace paying a $2M dowry? Didn't that practice go out in the middle ages in Europe? I think some rich Asian families still pay dowries. Did she even have that kind of money after a brief film career in the studio system?

by Anonymousreply 250July 9, 2022 3:52 PM

Maybe the Grimaldis were hard up for money. I think they were occupied during WWII so maybe the Germans stole their gold reserves.

Wasn’t Grace’s father new money from a shady construction business? Maybe that’s how the dowry was paid, and not from Grace’s Hollywood earnings.

by Anonymousreply 251July 10, 2022 8:43 AM

A dowry request should make a Western parent's blood run cold.

by Anonymousreply 252July 10, 2022 3:10 PM

It's weird to me that Stéphanie has an accent aigu where as the male form of the name, Stephan, does not. Interestingly when I googled this, I discovered that the more traditional French form of Stephan or Steven is Étienne (which does have an accent aigu).

by Anonymousreply 253July 10, 2022 8:24 PM

He's from Martigny, Switzerland : Stéphane Lambiel (born 2 April 1985) is a Swiss former competitive figure skater (now coach and choreographer - and he still does ice shows)

by Anonymousreply 254July 11, 2022 1:50 AM

R254 my favorite male skater of all time.

by Anonymousreply 255July 11, 2022 1:12 PM

Rainier’s father was a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 256July 11, 2022 2:19 PM
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