Hugh Grant 'to play Oompa Loompa in Charlie And The Chocolate Factory to avoid offence to Dwarves

And in a few years it will be "WHERE ARE ALL THE SMALL PERSONS, HOLLYWOOD ?! WHY DON'T THEY GET JOBS ? THIS IS SO DWARPHOBIC !!!"

Why is the woke position always to leave minority groups unemployed? That's their scam, right? As R1 pointed out.

Fucking Peter Dinklage. I hope this results in fewer, if no more, roles for little people.

I always believed the Oompa Loompas to be racist when first I read the book as a child. I'm glad none of the movies depicted them that way.

The little people "controversy" is bullshit. As others have said, there are very few roles for little people. Why take this from them? Little people have been a part of the entertainment industry since the vaudeville and carnival days. They know what they are and have been smart enough to lean into it and capitalize on it.

I really wish the FAR LEFT LOONIES would talk to the people they "claim" to represent BEFORE they represent them.

This is a bad move.

Roald Dahl was a Nazi sympathiser. From memory the Ooompa Loompas were based on African pygmies.

When Charlie and the four other golden ticket holders and their parents first spied the Oompa-Loompas, Wonka explained that the workers were not made of chocolate, but they “are real people! They are some of my workers!” He had imported the tiny black people “direct from Africa!” They belonged to “a tribe of tiny miniature pygmies known as Oompa-Loompas. I discovered them myself,” Wonka exclaimed. I brought them over from Africa myself—the whole tribe of them, three thousand in all. I found them in the very deepest and darkest part of the African jungle where no white man had ever been before.”

Wonka informed Charlie and his companions that the tribe had been starving, subsisting on green caterpillars but longed for cacao beans; “oh how they craved them,” he said. He bargained with the tribe and promised that if they agreed to “live in my factory” they could have all the cacao beans they wanted: “I’ll even pay your wages in cacao beans if you wish!”

So, the black pygmies traded their freedom for permanent enslavement and all the cacao beans they could eat. After the tribal leader agreed to stop eating green caterpillars and work for “beans,” Wonka “shipped them over here, every man, woman, and child in the Oompa-Loompa tribe. It was easy. I smuggled them over in large packing cases with holes in them, and they all got here safely.”

R6 That is depressing.

Depends on your point of view

Willy Wonka, our 𝑺𝒂𝒗𝒊𝒐𝒓 !

[quote]The little people "controversy" is bullshit. As others have said, there are very few roles for little people. Why take this from them?

Because peter dinklage doesn't like it. He wants to be the only little person who works in Hollywood

The Sun, there's a real reliable source

Oscar bait.

They got cocoa beans!?! Lucky bastards!!!

If an oompa lompa could hold the highest office in the land, that is proof there is no discrimination!!

Peter Dinklage's IMPACT!!!

Gary Oldman did it first!! And he did it on his knees

Lucky bastards.

Honest to dog, I passed an ad for the Peter Dinklage movie today and idly wondered at how many other little people were going to cancel him for being a white male hogging all the little people roles.

Deep Roy did a good job in the remake.

Will he be regular sized in the movie? If he's sized down, DInklage and progressives are going to throw a shit fit.

Hahahaha! I called it in the Peter Dinklage thread!

He said “didn’t I knock doors down”. No Peter, you took it all for yourself and now you’re using your voice to put little people out of work over what you find offensive.

[quote]Speaking in 1973, the legendary author defended their inclusion.

"Legendary author" Roald Dahl was a notorious antisemite. The quote from the book at r6 is also accurate.

The Daily Mail has been really busy with the culture war stuff lately.

Huge Grant is going to be great in this midget part!

Dahl was a vile person, but I recall the Oompa-Loompas in the book being described as small white men with long curly blond hair and beards.

Which doesn't let Wonka (or Dahl) off the hook for more or less enslaving them.

I hated the orange-green things in the Wilder version.

He was cute in the Paddington movie so it may work

Big people stealing the few little people roles that Hollywood has. Not cool!

Was Tom Cruise not available?

R4? Fuck off. This doesn’t have anything to do with “the far left LOONIES” you refer to - and btw it’s the far right LOONIES that are a domestic terrorist threat to our country including the far right lunatics holding elected political office.

Sometimes old positions and attitudes age out of cultural acceptance due to this thing called PROGRESS.

As R6 demonstrates, Dahl was a racist fuck. Times change - thank gawd. It doesn’t have anything to do with the far left (which is so far left as to be far right, these days, if your tiny brain can contemplate that). Enlightenment is a thing, except for people who still use the word “woke”, of course.

Now make your Jada Pinkett Smith joke. Go on.

I'm high as fuck and cannot stop laughing at The Sun's imaginative rendering of Hugh as an Oompa Loompa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

R4 reminds me of when side shows in carnivals were phased out by the '60s because of complaints from liberals, of course. I wasn't alive at the time, but I did a lot of reading about carnivals 7 or so years ago after the FREAK SHOW season of AMERICAN HORROR STORY. A lot of the so-called freaks resented these liberals, because they were impeding on their livelihood. Many of them earned good money doing side shows. They didn't care if people stared or commented or laughed. They were crying all the way to the bank before Liberace.

R27 You just spouted a bunch of gibberish that makes no sense. I despise the far left loonies because they elevate every cause to the same priority and then no one takes them seriously and nothing gets done. And for you to believe there is a such thing as a right wing loonie shows how out of touch with reality you are. All of the GOP is nuts and has been since at least as far back as 2016.

It's easy to dismiss you as a lunatic because you clearly don't know what the fuck you are talking about!

Right R29. Entertainers want to work. If liberals in Hollywood REALLY CARED about little people, they would write more scripts specifically for them or cast them in regular shows. They rather take away their only guaranteed roles and replace it with NOTHING! What next, the munchkins are now gonna be cast as 6 foot tall White guys?

Hollywood is like politics. If you have a powerful enough lobby (with deep enough pockets) pleading your case, Hollywood will listen.

[quote]Hollywood is like politics. If you have a powerful enough lobby (with deep enough pockets) pleading your case, Hollywood will listen.

Yes, the Dwarf lobby is well known for their deep pockets.

Can’t we just abandon the whole film? I don’t want another version, it only seems like the Tim Burton one was a couple of years ago and…I’ve already had enough Timotheeeee.

[bold]Dipshits kneejerking about "wokism" doing this.[/bold]

Sorry, not the case and not even the first time Oompa-Loompas' appearance has been changed. Guess what? The 1971 movie we all know and love MADE UP that depiction of orange-skinned/green-haired little people. That's not from any version of the book.

The book's first depiction, as R6 points out, was of black-skinned African pygmies.

Then in 1971 we had the movie version of them we know.

BUT THEN, in 1972 because of pushback about racism of the book's version - [bold]that's right, pushback about racism in 1972... (was that wokism?)/bold] - it was changed in the book by Dahl+publishers in then+future published books to be dwarf-ish hippies with long golden-brown hair and rosy-white skin. So not pygmies, or dwarfs, or even midgets.... just the ambiguous "dwarf-ish."

So that's how people have read about them since 1972, "dwarf-ish."

And then they were changed again in Tim Burton's 2005 film where they all were played by Indian-British actor Deep Roy who is diminutive at 4'4" but does not have dwarf-like features.

So, no. Changing them for the 4th time for the newest movie is not silly wokism. IT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE ya kneejerk morons.

^^ Oops. Effed up my bolding at R35.

Trying to sassy with bolding but too drunk to pull it off. Oh well.

Why can't genuine pygmies be employed in this movie?

I'm sure they could learn the lines in the script phonetically.

I wonder what pygmies think when they see a really tall, blonde man. Basically, a giant to them.

All pygmies aren't black/African. The term refers to rainforest hunter-gatherers worldwide who average a height of 5'.

It’s like re-casting The Color Purple with white makes.

^^Males^^

I don't understand: why yet another movie? It's like recasting and producing "Shakespeare in Love" every two years.

We get Batman every two years. Just like Superman every two years.

Tim Burton didn't have a problem using a single person, Deep Roy, to play all the Oompa Loompas.

[quote] To his surprise, Deep Roy played every Oompa Loompa, repeating the same movements several hundred times. While these were then put together digitally, each Oompa Loompa represents a separate performance by Roy. In recognition of this, Roy's salary was raised to $1 million.

[quote] Deep Roy is a self-proclaimed terrible singer and dancer. He learned how to dance for this movie, but he did not do his own singing.

[quote] The singing voice of the Oompa Loompas belongs to that of Danny Elfman, who overdubbed himself dozens of times.

[quote]Trying to sassy with bolding but too drunk to pull it off. Oh well.

In those situations it is best to just show hole and shut up.

The wrath of Dinklage reaches far and high. The height of his anger is immeasurable. His stature looms large, casting an enviously long shadow over a cowering, diminutive Hollywood, as studio execs tense when "Big Dink" enters the room.

[quote]The wrath of Dinklage reaches far and high.

When he stands on a chair.

R47 Big Dink hates chairs and crowded rooms, because in places brimming with humankind of average stature, he constantly gets slapped in the face with either ball sacks or tampon strings, and chairs are his only place of respite from the crotch assaults.

Shouldn't Hugh and Timothée swap roles in this case?

Didn’t we just have a remake of this?

I’m bored of this.

R51 Big Dink commands you gone. Does he need to come hear and menacingly loom large over this thread? The apex of his power dwarfs Everest.

Changing the size or color of the Oompa-Loompas does nothing. Wonka still shipped human beings in crates to his factory to work for him 24/7 in exchange for cacao beans.

Getting that nasty-ass acorn face troll to be Wonka was the nail in the coffin for the franchise. Hiring Grant is the five tons of concrete they pour on the coffin after it's been put in the ground.

Who is acorn faced?

[quote] Who is acorn faced?

I can venture a guess

Wait, why is this even being remade, again?

R42 R57 Some stories will be told forever if they’re good.

It’s like complaining why are they still performing Medea on stage! Isn’t 2,500 years long enough!

Like yes they’re going to re-adapt Batman and Christmas Carol and Macbeth and Willy Wonka over and over again for different generations.

They’ve been remaking movies in Hollywood since the 1930’s.

R42 and R57 And it’s also because movie studio have excluded rights to certain titles that have expiration dates so they remake the movies to maintain the titles.

[quote]The Sun, there's a real reliable source

Tell us which parts of the article were lies.

My response to reading this was WHAT the FUCK.

Garçon! Deux Cadbury whole nut bars! Tout suite!

Oh boy the complainers around here. Just nabbing onto anything to scold so-called woke people to GET OFF MY LAWN.

[bold]The look of the Oompa-Loompas has been changed 3 TIMES already before this[/bold], FIRST in the 1971 movie, THEN in 1972 by Dahl and the publishers in the book, THEN AGAIN in the 2005 movie.

[bold]Changing their look for this movie seems more the rule than than an anomaly.[/bold]

I can't believe grown men are arguing about something called Oompa-Loompas. I never saw or read any version of this thing but nobody actually took any African pygmies from anywhere to make them work in any fucking chocolate factory. It's complete fiction and no one cares. So cheer up world it may never bloody happen!

[quote]I recall the Oompa-Loompas in the book being described as small white men with long curly blond hair and beards

They were originally African pygmy slaves and people complained about it, so Dahl changed it and described them as somewhat Aryan, mostly out of spite.

If I recall, the movie changed them to colors you wouldn't find in nature because of the uproar over the original versions of them.

Ah, I see r63 already answered it: they were changed in the book after the movie. I can imagine people bought the book after seeing the film, expecting weird orange guys with green hair, only to find out that Dahl had written about how hip & cool & awesome it was to enslave Africans.

The Oompa Loompas came from Limpopo Land.

Regardless of the furore over typecasting and identity politics, Hugh is too tired and old and drunk to put in good performances, and he’s rich enough not to bother.

Can’t we just wheel him out for cozy retrospective chats every now and then, and have that be that?

[Quote]It's complete fiction and no one cares. So cheer up world it may never bloody happen!

R64 Except, it HAS happened. Ever hear of the slave trade?

Tiny pygmies are serving me as we speak! I dress them in chain mail.

[quote]Except, it HAS happened. Ever hear of the slave trade?

No, that was actual history and real people. This is fiction, there are no Oompa Loompas, and slaves weren't brought from Africa to work in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory because it doesn't exist. Next you'll tell me the guards in the palace of the Wicked Witch Of The West were shown in green face, and it's offensive to plants.

[quote] What next, the munchkins are now gonna be cast as 6 foot tall White guys?

Shhh. They have to be black to fulfill the " diversity" quota. No little people, no Hispanics, no Asians, no gays, no disabled.....only black.

R71 Did you forget that this whole discussion is about a literary fiction? We all know, Oompa Loompas are not real, neither is the Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory. But writing is about symbolism. And yes, Black slaves brought from Africa does exist. They represent the Black slaves.

Damn, I didn't think I would be teaching literature on a Tuesday! LOL

[quote] Tiny pygmies are serving me

Everything in my kitchen and bedroom is made by Chinese.

[quote]Wait, why is this even being remade, again?

A prequel is not a remake.

R62

Cadbury? Du chocolat anglais?

Merci, non.

Je préfère encore les Rochers Suchard.

Ça c’est du bon chocolat...