Panned upon release. Acclaimed thereafter. Which movies, books, or art fall in this category?

A Christmas Story

The Shining got mixed reviews and was nominated for a couple of Razzies upon its initial release. Now its considered a horror classic.

Grease got mixed reviews as well.

Mommie Dearest

It's A Wonderful Life, 1946

Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead (1991)

Night of the Hunter

Heartburn (1986)

Peeping Tom (1960)

The critical mauling and public outcry about the film resulted in it being pulled from British cinemas after just five days. 86 of 86 found this interesting

The scandal which the movie aroused destroyed the career of director Michael Powell.

Mahogany.

A few -- of my Poems -- perhaps

Stravinsky

Barbra Streisand "A Star Is Born" - universally panned by critics

was one of the highest grossing films of that year

The Thing (1982)

Manhunter (1986)

I'd tell you but I'd have to cut my ear off.

Moby Dick - Herman Melville died, believing himself a failure.

Fantasia - Financial and critical failure for years until fourth re-release in 1970. Now an international classic.

The Magnificent Ambersons - Recut dud in 1942. Now regarded by many as orson Welless best film.

Vertigo - Flop on original release in 1958. Now not only regarded as Hitchcock’s best, but viewed by many as one of the greatest films ever.

Vincent Van Gogh - Virtually the epitome of the outsider artist, he only sold one painting in his lifetime. The restvis history.

Office Space. Gary Cole tells the story of how it flopped in theaters, but was big on DVD when DVDs first came out. It's Cole's most recognizable role even though he's much hotter now!

Acclimated later? All of the aforementioned movies are shit. Sorry, they are.

Bonnie and Clyde (1967) is a notorious example. It was panned by most critics upon release in August 1967 (mainly because of its sympathetic depiction of B&C and the graphic violence) and quickly closed. Then young critics like Roger Ebert began raving about it. When Pauline Kael wrote her famous New Yorker essay in defense of the film, its luck began changing.. Soon critics like Newsweek's Joe Morgenstern were rewatching the movie and giving it fairer reviews; old vanguard types like NYT's Bosley Crowther (who despised the film so much he kept harping on it every time he could) were fired. The film was re-released in December 1967, becoming a smash hit (#3 of the year) and was nominated for 10 Oscars, including all 5 main cast. The film went international in 1968 and also took the world by storm, inspiring songs and fashion.

Forgot to mention that Kael was hired by the NYT to replaced Crowther after he was let go.

Sorry. Kael was at The New Republic when she wrote her B&C essay that appeared in The New Yorker that got people talking. They hired her afterward, not the New York Times.

They really shouldn't have two similar-sounding periodicals

Three, if you count New York magazine.

Harold and Maude

Donnie Darko

"Mame"

Troop Beverly Hills.

The Night of the Hunter OWNS this thread.

Psycho.

Wasn't 2001: A Spacy Odyssey also trashed upon release?

R27 Psycho wasn't totally panned - it got mixed reviews compared to the greatly acclaimed North by Northwest. It was the second highest grossing film of the year (and the highest grossing film ever for Hitchcock) and nominated for multiple Oscars.

The timing was bad for Donnie Darko being right after 9/11 and crashing airplane parts killing somebody being a plot point, but it gained cult status later and is considered a masterpiece in the Sci Fi time travel genre.

Stone Pillow.

I’ve never cried so hard in my life.

Rain (1932) starring Joan Crawford trying to prove herself as an actor. It was a flop in its time but has been more kindly regarded over the years.

G. Panned upon release. Panned thereafter.

[quote]G. Panned upon release. Panned thereafter.

Are you panning a movie or the actor?

Hocus Pocus

[quote]Barbra Streisand "A Star Is Born" - universally panned by critics

A piece of shit then, a piece of shit how.

National Lampoon's Vacation

I can't think of any recent albums that qualfy. Not sure what the last album was that was panned and then praised.

EVITA was panned by critics. It became renowned as a critic-proof show, because audiences went to see it anyway and made it a smash.. Nowadays, it's considered a musical theater masterpiece.

Probably something Bowie released in the 80s, like "Let's Dance."

A Star Is Born played in theaters for months, asswipe fucker.

My Sunflowers 🌻🌻🌻

Les Miserables (the musical.)

Puccini's Madama Butterfly was panned after the initial production but he kept making substantial changes and revisions during subsequent productions and now it's recognized as a classic.

The Rite of Spring by Stravinsky owns this thread when it comes to classical music. Reviled and considered offensive at the time when it premiered (1913) but now considered a revolutionary masterpiece of the 20th century music.

A Star Is Born won Barbra Streisand her second Oscar - not for acting, but writing the song "Evergreen"

Like it of not "A Star Is Born" will always be called the Oscar winning movie

Movie: "Batman Returns." A Catwoman for the ages.

Music/Art: Nirvana "In Utero."

Both Streisand's and Garland's "A Star is Born" are films only their fans could love.

[quote]The Rite of Spring by Stravinsky owns this thread when it comes to classical music. Reviled and considered offensive at the time when it premiered (1913) but now considered a revolutionary masterpiece of the 20th century music.

Opening night a riot broke out in the theater which spilled out into the streets. Over a ballet.

Carmen (the opera)

There's an urban legend that The Wizard of Oz flopped on its first release. That's kind of half true but doesn't tell the real story. When the film opened it got great reviews and was one of the top grossing films of the year. It was definitely a critical and audience favorite from the get go. Unfortunately, MGM had spent so much money on it, it ended up in the red in 1939, despite its success. It didn't go into the black until a 1948 re-release. CBS spent a bundle to license exclusive TV showings in the mid 1950s and the film has been a cash cow ever since.

Battleship Earth. Reviled when released, now considered one of the greatest movies ever made.

R51 Wow. Concise and factual. Kudos!

I was going to say something similar, but my post would've ended up being an essay, because I tend to be rather verbose when I write, especially about a topic I know about. 😂

The Rocky Horror Picture Show - Movie flopped on first release, then when it was later shown at special midnight shows, it caught on, and is now considered a classic.

Somewhere in Time - 1980 release was not well received, but interest picked up when it was shown on HBO, and now it’s regarded as a romance classic. Also, at first, the John Barry score release did not sell well, but, as interest increased, so did sales. It’s been in print ever since, and is one of Barry’s top selling scores.

Man of La Mancha - When the original musical opened in November 1965 at the Anta Washington Square Theatre downtown, on a site now occupied by the towering NYU Law School, it actually got mixed reviews. But then its signature ballad, “The Impossible Dream,” caught on over the winter, and audiences rushed to see it. It later moved to Broadway, where it played for years. And it’s been a theatrical mainstay ever since.

Chicago - in 1975, anticipation was high for Bob Fosse’s new show. But when it opened, reviews enjoyed the production well enough, but were taken aback by its downbeat cynicism, and it wasn’t a big audience pleaser. In fact, it was totally eclipsed by a little item that started out as a replacement for subscribers at the Public Theatre downtown. “A Chorus Line” was a monster hit from its opening night. Over 20 years later, “Chicago” resurfaced at Encores!, and was recognized for its brilliance. It moved to Broadway, and has been playing ever since. Go figure….

[quote]Somewhere in Time - 1980 release was not well received, but interest picked up when it was shown on HBO, and now it’s regarded as a romance classic. Also, at first, the John Barry score release did not sell well, but, as interest increased, so did sales. It’s been in print ever since, and is one of Barry’s top selling scores.

That film got mixed reviews and flopped in the U.S. mainly because it was released during an actors' strike and many of the people involved weren't allowed to promote it. Nevertheless, the film was a hit elsewhere, particularly Asia.

Should be in the Criterion Collection

"Showgirls", of course.

Basic Instinct.

Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me.

Death Becomes Her

Batman Returns, A League of Their Own, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Single White Female were also 1992.

I was obsessed with those movies at the time in middle school.

The Rocketeer- Didn't do nearly as well as the mouse would have liked in 1991. They were hoping for their own "Batman" type franchise, plus the added patriotism that was popular at that moment. It has more of a following and more merchandise now than thirty years ago.

[quote]Like it of not "A Star Is Born" will always be called the Oscar winning movie

And?

So will this.

Johannes Vermeer

The painter. Didn't become famous till over 100 years after his death

FYI: Both Barbra's and Gaga's versions of A STAR IS BORN won Oscars for Best Song.

Both Barbra and Gaga got statuettes because they co-wrote their respective songs.

[quote] Acclimated later?

No, they were "acclaimed" later. Not "acclimated."

[quote]All of the aforementioned movies are shit. Sorry, they are.

Vertigo and Fantasia are "shit"?

Well, that says much about your judgment.

Once Upon A Time in the West.

Moviegoers didn’t like Henry Fonda playing against type. It is now considered a masterpiece, as it should be.

Fire Walk With Me is a big one. I think the New York Times review even said "it's not the worst movie ever made, it just feels like it".

Showgirls actually has gotten SOMEWHAT of a reexamining since it was first released. But it will always divide people. Deservedly so.

It wasn't exactly "panned," but Jackie Brown. Both critics and audiences were so disappointed it wasn't just like Pulp Fiction. Entertainment Weekly ran a bitchy review which said something like, "Tarantino was cooler when he wasn’t trying so hard to be." (Roger Ebert did name it one of the best movies of 1997, tho!).

Also, it only earned a single Oscar nomination (same year Good Will Hunting received 9 and As Good as it Gets received 7). Now, most people realize it's probably Tarantino's best work and has one of the greatest openings of all-time.

Blade Runner

Breakin' 2 Electric Boogaloo

[R52] Mr. Travolta, is that you?

"Barry Lyndon" is a good example when it comes to movies. As is "Heaven's Gate."

I still can't like either "Barry Lyndon" or "Heaven's Gate" as movies, although i hugely admire the cinematography for "Lyndon," which is probably among the great films ever in that respect. but both films are unlikable, and missing an emotional core.

Speaking of Kubrick: "The Shining" also received bad reviews when it was released, and now it's acclaimed as one of his masterpieces. Critics complained how over the top both Nicholson's and Duvall's performances were, and fans of the novel didn't like how much it deviated from the original source material.

Fight Club

The Shawshank Redemption

Hocus Pocus

Newsies

Willy Wonka was hated when it opened but is a definite evergreen. Conversely, Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was highly praised but is already forgotten.

Troop Beverly Hills (not acclaimed so much as beloved--same with Hocus Pocus).

What will Timmy’s Willy do?

Fight Club was acclaimed upon release.

Fight Club got mixed reviews and was a box office disappointment

The original stage version of Rent. When it was downtown, they couldn’t give tickets away. Then the author croaked, they moved it uptown, created a same day ticket lottery system and it became the anthem for twenty-somethings in the 90s.

Albert Nobbs

The author of Rent “croaked” before opening night OFF Broadway. Your timeline is bullshit.

Aaliyah's last album was being until her death sent it back up the charts

A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte

All of Sondheim’s early work

Especially West Side Story which was a disappointment on Broadway but now is an easy sell 60 years later on any stage because of the movie

Follies!

No, wait, it had a small but passionate audience then, and it still does.

BJ and the Bear

Citizen Kane!

(Though William Randolf Hearst ordered his newpapers to write scathing reviews and it worked. But years later in the 60's it was rediscovered and studied and analyzed and would eventually claim the title of the "greatest movie ever made" by critics and scholars!)

[quote]Like it of not "A Star Is Born" will always be called the Oscar winning movie

So is "8 Mile."

Is Greg Evigan still hung and gay?

Gidget Goes Hawaiian

Nightmare Alley (the original)

Drop Dead Gorgeous

Jim Henson's Dark Crystal and its follow-up Labyrinth. Both box-office disappointments that gained deserved cult status.

The Eiffel Tower was loathed by a significant number of Parisians when it was first erected and a proposal to demolish it was widely circulated among the city's literary and artistic elite.

The Chrysler Building was largely dismissed as populist trash at the time of its completion.

R90 I thought WSS was well-received by both critics and audiences when it debuted? Granted, it was overshadowed that year by the nostalgic MUSIC MAN, but it was nominated for several Tonys (including Best Musical) and ran for 2-3 years, which was quite respectable in those days.

Evita still considered POS.

R12 it is often touted as a 'revolutionary masterpiece' whenever it's revived or tours. It was the first British musical to win the Best Musical Tony and ushered in a decade of British megamusicals that dominated Broadway through the '80s into the '90s (e.g., Cats, Phantom, Les Miserables, Miss Saigon).

You are correct, r101.

R51 Let's not forget notorious motion picture accounting. All sorts of apparently successful films remain in the red because of the bookkeeping games studios play.

Blade Runner

R105 That's like what happened with Forrest Gump. It was the second-highest grossing film of 1994 -- and #4 in general at the time, after Jurassic Park, ET, and The Lion King (also from 1994). Nevertheless, it was considered a "successful failure" due to so-called Hollywood accounting. This way Paramount wouldn't have to pay the author any percentage of the profits, because, according to Hollywood accounting, the film lost money.

Red Rock West (1993). Not sure if it was “panned.” But it didn’t make much at first and is now considered a Nic Cage classic.

Glitter was savaged when it came out on 9/11. It isn't bad, just boring.

The Fifth Element! Biggest flop in film history, now a classic.

I love this movie. I love the costumes and the hair and the performances. I love the message. Yeah, it's 90s cringe. I love it!

Darkman (1990)

Raimi and Neeson at their best. Plus the retard from LA Law and that woman that shit in a bucket for her Oscar

Slap Shot. Filmed in the mid-1970s, it has Paul Newman and his fellow hockey players wearing the most god-awful get-ups from that era.

Plus, it's hysterically funny. I watch it every Thanksgiving.

The '70s were such an ugly decade! Ugly fashion. Ugly haircuts. Ugly decor. etc.

I've noticed that almost no one is nostalgic for that decade. People usually fixate on the '50s, '60s, '80s, or '90s.

I’m very nostalgic for the late ‘70s, disco chic was bomb!

Scarface.

r105 Thats why bonuses are now based on the gross and not the profits.