Russia vs NATO - who would win?

Considering that Russia doesn't have diversity and trans troops in its military, NATO will win for sure.

NATO won't go to war with Russia. Ukraine isn't a member of NATO.

Can we keep this to one thread or this intentionally to dilute the others?

"NATO won't go to war with Russia. Ukraine isn't a member of NATO."

NATO would absolutely intervene.

I hate to agree with Putin on this but,... no one. Both would lose. It's a nightmare.

The only way to win is to exterminate every last one of them and salt the Earth.

NATO will arm Ukraine, but I doubt it will put troops into Ukraine. NATO will place its troops in Poland and the Baltic nations to deter Russia, and hope that Ukraine will resist an invasion effectively.

The big question is whether the West has the will to impose sanctions on Russia which are effective enough to make it regret invading. That means getting Germany to deny Russia permission to build an oil pipeline across its territory. Denying permission risks an increase in energy prices throughout Western Europe. At least we are nearing spring, but it will still be painful.

Bear in mind that Russia’s aim may not be full occupation. It may seek to annexe the Eastern (more pro-Russian) regions and set up a puppet government in the rest of the country. Putin wants to disarm and subjugate Ukraine to create a buffer. However his bigger aim is to discredit the democratic nations: this is why he is allying more closely with China and Turkey to try to face off against NATO. If he manages to split NATO and painlessly take UKraine, then he may be encouraged to look for his next target, possibly Georgia (or even the Baltics).

From NATO’s point of view, Russia has to be made to pay a high price if it invades Ukraine, to deter it from advancing further.

NATO. The West has its problems, obviously, as does everyone in this pandemic. But Russia is just so much less powerful and poorer and more fragile, even than it used to be. It's hanging by a thread, and I suspect it would collapse before long in a real knockdown, dragout fight, and that it turn would lead to very violent regime change and Putin dying in a nasty way. I suspect he knows that and can only really push this whole thing so far.

Yep, the combined forces of US/France/Germany/UK would take down Russia in a NY minute.

Doesn’t the US spend more money on defense and war stuff than all other countries combined? Like $800 Billion? Let’s get our monies worth and stomp those commies. The US hasn’t won a war since they torched Japan.

[quote] Doesn’t the US spend more money on defense and war stuff than all other countries combined? Like $800 Billion?

Yes. Why do you think we’re getting into another war? You didn’t actually buy that line about Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty did you? This is all to make the already ungodly wealthy defense contractors even wealthier.

The US can do to Russia what it did to Huawei and there will be thousands of deaths in Russia without one single US soldier in Ukraine.

Russia likes having barriers against NATO and historically the West. Plus Ukraine, when attached to Russia becomes valuable economically.

In a short conventional war, in the early stages, Russia could overrun much of Eastern Europe and the Balkans. (But that really is not in her political or economic interests). Once the NATO allies could bring enough troops/hardware/air power to bear they would eventually defeat Russia. But the likelihood of a war staying conventional involving Russia vs. NATO is slim. When either side is pressed that option will always be there tempting. I would also wonder what China’s posture would be. While they oppose Western dominance, China and Russia have had historical issues over borders and ambitions.