They gave Honorary Oscars to several actresses who never won one. Barbara Stanwyck, Deborah Kerr, Myrna Loy, Lauren Bacall, and Maureen O'Hara come to mind. Rita Hayworth was a bigger star than all of them, yet she never got an Honorary Oscar (or even a single Oscar nomination). I know some people will say she was more a star than an actress so she didn't deserve to get one like Stanwyck or Kerr, but Myrna Loy and Maureen O'Hara never got any Oscar nominations in their lifetimes and Maureen "The Queen of Technicolor" O'Hara was hardly ever considered one of the greatest actresses who ever lived. She was regarded more for her screen presence and beauty. And Lauren Bacall is the living example of an actress who only is famous because she married Bogart and did 4 movies with him but she got an Honorary Oscar too. So why not Rita, who was still alive and could have finally gotten some awards recognition?
Why did Rita Hayworth never receive an Honorary Oscar in her lifetime?
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 12, 2022 8:39 PM |
I can't remember why, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 11, 2022 8:37 PM |
Mean, R1. Mean, but funny.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 11, 2022 8:40 PM |
Maybe she did get one and she just doesn't remember so the Oscars pretended they never gave her one out of respect for her.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 11, 2022 8:40 PM |
You are so right, OP, and thanks for raising this question!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 11, 2022 8:42 PM |
This begs the question as to why Hedy Lamarr never received one either. Another actress who was always snubbed by the Academy and was still alive long enough that they could have awarded her one.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 11, 2022 8:45 PM |
Rita was a good dancer and always looked like she loved it.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 11, 2022 8:52 PM |
How did that hack Ginger ever score an Oscar but not Rita?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 11, 2022 8:56 PM |
Methinks the Academy is biased against screen beauties. Must be why they gave Liz her two oscars, first when she had a hole in her neck, and second when she was frumpy and old-looking.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 11, 2022 8:57 PM |
[quote] This begs the question as to why Hedy Lamarr never received one either.
It’s Hedley!
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 11, 2022 9:03 PM |
[quote] "Maybe she did get one and she just doesn't remember"
Ultimately, she didn't remember anything. So technically...
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 11, 2022 9:10 PM |
[quote It’s Hedley!] I think you mean Hedwig!
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 11, 2022 9:11 PM |
Wasn't Hedy in the public spotlight again during the 90s when she won an award for creating Wi-Fi? Academy should have given her one then.
No excuse on why they snubbed Rita.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 11, 2022 9:13 PM |
Wasn't Rita the only major actor from Separate Tables to not even receive a nomination? They really had it out for her.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 11, 2022 9:14 PM |
R13 That might be because of her marriage to Orson Welles, who was a big persona non grata in Hollywood for a while.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 11, 2022 9:15 PM |
[quote] Wasn't Rita the only major actor from Separate Tables to not even receive a nomination? They really had it out for her.
Isn't that the movie where David Niven plays a gay perv?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 11, 2022 9:15 PM |
[quote] That might be because of her marriage to Orson Welles, who was a big persona non grata in Hollywood for a while.
By the time Separate Tables came out, she was already onto her fifth husband which was three husbands after Orson Welles. I can't believe the Academy would still be associating her with him by that point.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 11, 2022 9:18 PM |
[quote] Isn't that the movie where David Niven plays a gay perv?
I think he's just a straight perv
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 11, 2022 9:18 PM |
[quote] That might be because of her marriage to Orson Welles, who was a big persona non grata in Hollywood for a while.
only Hollywood could be so regressive as to hold a woman accountable for her husband's reputation.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 11, 2022 9:19 PM |
it was well known how badly Orson treated Rita.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 11, 2022 9:20 PM |
[R19] are you suggesting because Orson victimized Rita, the Academy decided to victimize her further?
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 11, 2022 9:22 PM |
no the opposite.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 11, 2022 9:23 PM |
R11 I guess we know who JK Rowling was a fan of
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 11, 2022 9:23 PM |
According to Bette, Joan used her connections to keep Bette from winning the Oscar for Baby Jane. With that logic, it was probably Bette who kept Rita from ever getting an Oscar since Bette hated her when Gary Merrill started dating Rita after his marriage to Bette broke up.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 11, 2022 9:25 PM |
It would have been great if Rita was Oscar-nominated for Gilda but Hollywood didn't consider this kind of display acting.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 11, 2022 9:27 PM |
R24 1946 was a tough year for female performances. Lana Turner delivered her only acting performance for The Postman Always Rings Twice. Joan thought she was guaranteed a 2nd Oscar nomination for Humoresque after rave reviews and a major publicity push by WB and was shocked by the snub. Gene Tierney for The Razor's Edge could probably have gotten a nomination as well in any other year.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 11, 2022 9:29 PM |
[quote] It would have been great if Rita was Oscar-nominated for Gilda but Hollywood didn't consider this kind of display acting.
She should have been nominated for The Loves of Carmen. Very underrated movie which was a big hit but nobody ever talks about it anymore.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 11, 2022 9:31 PM |
Those 50s bitches Grace Kelly and Marilyn Monroe all stole from Rita. Rita was the original Hollywood Princess and was a sex symbol long before Marilyn.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 11, 2022 9:34 PM |
I don't think Orson was outright abusive-he was distant, and they both were cheating on each other by the end. I don't like the whole "innocent girl-woman who never did anything wrong brutalized by asshole man" narrative that gets posthumously applied to these stars by Old Hollywood revisionists like You Must Remember This and Be Kind Rewind.
Rita is more iconic for her image than her films save Gilda, which seems quaint today. By all accounts a sweet lady if not the most stable.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 11, 2022 9:37 PM |
Nor Lana and Ava.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 11, 2022 9:42 PM |
Rita had Alzheimer's. Vivien was Bipolar. Gene was Bipolar depressive. Hedy was a klepto. Linda was a drunk. Miriam was a drunk. Judy was a drug addict. Lana was a murderer. Elizabeth was a fat drunk and perpetual homewrecker.
Joan and Bette come across a lot better in comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 11, 2022 9:42 PM |
Lauren Bacall didn't get her honorary Oscar until 2009, when the Oscars were desperately wanting to acknowledge Old Hollywood. Not sure if you can really compare the context of Bacall's award to Rita Hayworth not getting one.
For example, in the 1970s the Academy was giving honorary Oscars to silent film/early talkie stars/directors, such as: Lillian Gish, Chaplin, Mary Pickford, Groucho Marx, Jean Renoir, King Vidor, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 11, 2022 9:43 PM |
[quote] For example, in the 1970s the Academy was giving honorary Oscars to silent film/early talkie stars/directors, such as: Lillian Gish, Chaplin, Mary Pickford, Groucho Marx, Jean Renoir, King Vidor, etc.
Why did those fuckers forget I started off as a silent star?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 11, 2022 9:46 PM |
R28 Lady in Shanghai is pretty well known now today as well.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 11, 2022 9:47 PM |
[quote] According to Bette, Joan used her connections to keep Bette from winning the Oscar for Baby Jane. With that logic, it was probably Bette who kept Rita from ever getting an Oscar since Bette hated her when Gary Merrill started dating Rita after his marriage to Bette broke up.
Lol, Bette was such a frump by that point. She looked like Gary Merrill's mother-in-law and he was hardly all that youthful himself. Rita would have been such a breath of fresh air in comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 11, 2022 10:01 PM |
Ann-Margret should get one soon. Or poor Glenn.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 11, 2022 11:34 PM |
THE ACTUAL REASONS WHY, for OP:
Keep in mind that honorary Oscars are almost invariably only given to stars who have lived quite a long time. Lillian Gish, who was far, far, FAR more important to the history of Hollywood and the motion picture in general (and a far greater actress) than Hayworth, only received hers in 1971 at age 79; Deborah Kerr, also a far greater actor than Hayworth, and the actress who has had the most nominations without ever actually winning (cue unfunny but requisite M joke about G), won hers at age 73. One of the major reasons Maureen O'Hara won an Honorary Oscar in 2014 was not because she was super-iconic but because she had actually lived to be 94.
Rita Hayworth would have been far too young to receive an honorary Oscar throughout the 1970s when she was in her 50s, and during that decade she was notorious for shaming public tantrums, which at the time were thought due to her alcoholism but which probably had much more to do with her ensuring Alzheimer's (in those days, most people did not understand you could have early onset dementia). By the time she was successfully diagnosed in 1980, she was only 61--far too early to be given an Honorary Oscar, but past the point when it would have meant anything to her (she woulds imply not have understood what was going on had they awarded it to her by then).
That should clear things up for you.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 12, 2022 12:16 AM |
Bill's thirty-two, r34. He looks thirty-two. He looked it five years ago, he'll look it twenty years from now. I hate men.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 12, 2022 12:20 AM |
I thought Bette and Gary looked good together in All About Eve and Another Man's Poison. The problem was that Bette adopted that ugly short haircut that was so in vogue during the 1950s which made her look more matronly. On top of that, a decade of boozing and fighting only aged her further.
I think Gary said that by the end of their marriage, Bette didn't want him anymore but she didn't want him to be happy with anyone else either.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 12, 2022 12:24 AM |
[quote]Keep in mind that honorary Oscars are almost invariably only given to stars who have lived quite a long time.
This is more true now, I guess, than it was in the past. In the late 40s and 50s, Gene Kelly, George Murphy, Fred Astaire, Danny Kaye, Bob Hope and Greta Garbo all got honorary Oscars and they were all in their 40s.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 12, 2022 12:33 AM |
Both Rita and Gene Tierney are two actresses who should have been awarded honorary Oscars to just to make up for all misery in their lives that came from stardom.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 12, 2022 12:51 AM |
Honorary awards are given to artists for achievements, not for being victims.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 12, 2022 12:55 AM |
She was a starlet turned pinup star and not remotely in the class of Barbara Stanwyck or Myrna Loy or Debra Kerr as an actress.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 12, 2022 12:56 AM |
R42 Barbara Stanwyck was literally a burlesque dancer.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 12, 2022 1:15 AM |
[quote] Why did Rita Hayworth never receive an Honorary Oscar in her lifetime?
Because she wasn’t white. Old time Hollywood was racist.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 12, 2022 4:48 AM |
She was a bigger star than George Murphy and he got one.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 12, 2022 4:50 AM |
R44 She was white. Her father was from Spain and her mother had English/Irish ancestry.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 12, 2022 5:35 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 12, 2022 5:40 AM |
[quote] She was a bigger star than George Murphy and he got one.
Who the hell is George Murphy???
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 12, 2022 5:43 AM |
I never realized she was snubbed for Separate Tables. I thought she was nominated for that.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 12, 2022 8:39 PM |