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Burt Lancaster and Rock Hudson had an orgy with 250 marines?!!!!

And who were the other "prominent individuals" who attended?:

In January 1960 there was a report of a joint police and military raid on the home of a millionaire who frequented Hollywood night spots and was a notorious homosexual. The millionaire’s mansion, surrounded by a high wire fence and guarded with an electric alarm and shocking system had been organising large-scale homosexual orgies at which guests were surrepitiously photographed. The raid was organised by the American military because the orgy was allegedly attended by an admiral and 250 marines. The FBI report on the raid names many prominent individuals revealed as participants including Lancaster and Rock Hudson.

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by Anonymousreply 89February 7, 2022 8:23 PM

Sounds fake. But damn would be great to see photos if they existed.

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2022 3:35 AM

^ FBI documents back it up

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2022 3:38 AM

Burt Lancaster was hideous

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2022 3:41 AM

R3 = Helen Keller

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2022 3:42 AM

Burt was hot

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2022 3:53 AM

Burt may have been bi I heard

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2022 3:57 AM

Goals

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2022 4:58 AM

Actually sounds bs.

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2022 5:08 AM

It's not, ask the FBI

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by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2022 5:14 AM

Burt was fug

by Anonymousreply 10February 4, 2022 5:17 AM

Oh, the good old days! Pre AIDs and COVID

by Anonymousreply 11February 4, 2022 5:26 AM

R9 Rock's visit to President LBJ was the reason

by Anonymousreply 12February 4, 2022 5:28 AM

He had a slammin' body

by Anonymousreply 13February 4, 2022 6:23 PM

Who catered the marine party?

by Anonymousreply 14February 4, 2022 7:34 PM

"Notorious homosexual," 😆

by Anonymousreply 15February 4, 2022 7:36 PM

Lancaster was never particularly handsome, but his body was stellar in his younger years.

by Anonymousreply 16February 4, 2022 7:40 PM

Who was the notorious millionaire homosexual? The only names that come to mind are George Cukor and Cole Porter, both were extremely wealthy, held gay orgies, and were notorious throughout Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 17February 4, 2022 7:55 PM

Wasn’t Burt one of Shelley Winters’ regulars.

by Anonymousreply 18February 4, 2022 8:00 PM

Good old days when Hollywood actors were protected by the studios.

by Anonymousreply 19February 4, 2022 8:05 PM

There were a lot of shady shenanigans going on at Hecht-Hill-Lancaster, and many of them involved the casting couch for men and women alike.

by Anonymousreply 20February 4, 2022 8:06 PM

^ Details, please!

by Anonymousreply 21February 4, 2022 8:11 PM

Cukor wasn't a millionaire, and had pool parties, not enough room for 250 men! Cole Porter by 1960 had no legs and wasn't in LA very much anyway, and I doubt he'd be having giant parties at that point. No, it's someone, I presume, who was either a high powered executive in the business or not in the business, just super rich.

by Anonymousreply 22February 4, 2022 8:12 PM

Walter Chrysler, Jr used to throw wild gay parties

by Anonymousreply 23February 4, 2022 8:15 PM

Amateurs

by Anonymousreply 24February 4, 2022 8:19 PM

Sounds scandalous, I love it! Where are all the sordid details...

by Anonymousreply 25February 4, 2022 8:24 PM

I'll bet the pool had to be cleaned a lot. All those bodily fluids in the water! Those horny fuckers probably turned it into a big petri dish.

by Anonymousreply 26February 4, 2022 8:32 PM

If Scotty Bowers didn't talk about it in his book (and I don't remember that he did) it probably never happened.

by Anonymousreply 27February 4, 2022 8:33 PM

Scott Bowers isn't the ultimate authority on everything

by Anonymousreply 28February 4, 2022 8:38 PM

He was on homo Hollywood whoring.

by Anonymousreply 29February 4, 2022 8:40 PM

Oh yeah, Burt was just fucking hideous:

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by Anonymousreply 30February 4, 2022 8:42 PM

I like Burt because he had a masculine look.

by Anonymousreply 31February 4, 2022 8:46 PM

I preferred Ernie.

by Anonymousreply 32February 4, 2022 8:47 PM

R27, is Bowers’ book worth the $10? A good read?

by Anonymousreply 33February 4, 2022 8:50 PM

Most of Scotty's claims can't even be proven. And, no, he wasn't invited to every party

by Anonymousreply 34February 4, 2022 8:53 PM

[quote] is Bowers’ book worth the $10? A good read?

I certainly enjoyed it.

by Anonymousreply 35February 4, 2022 8:59 PM

Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 36February 4, 2022 9:07 PM

I now feel unsatisfied.

by Anonymousreply 37February 4, 2022 9:27 PM

[quote] Lancaster was never particularly handsome...

Ok. If you say so.

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by Anonymousreply 38February 4, 2022 9:41 PM

I tried to upload the gif of him in closeup in From Here to Eternity, standing in his uniform in the dripping rain, looking up at the sky, but couldn't find a version that would satisfy Muriel's deranged requirements. Right time, right place, Burt Lancaster was one of the handsomest men on earth.

by Anonymousreply 39February 4, 2022 9:44 PM

Almost everything in that document is redacted, for God knows what reason. They were probably just worried that he was involved with the Russians. Because back then gay= commie = traitor. I think the 9/11 documents that were released this year had fewer redactions and more info.

by Anonymousreply 40February 4, 2022 9:50 PM

Also the document doesn't confirm that this event happened. It just confirmed that the FBI didn't want a gay man to play an FBI agent in a movie. Because it would hurt their public perception, I guess? More FBI shenanigans that have to do more with influencing and controlling societal narrative, culture and public opinion, etc. , rather than stopping crimes. Although they could probably come up with some reason that letting gays, blacks, and Asians have any influence and power in society was a threat to national security.

by Anonymousreply 41February 4, 2022 10:04 PM

Lancaster was ruggedly handsome, had an athletic build and looked good in 1968s The Swimmer where he had a nude scene, and he was 50 at the time. Women (and men) swooned over him back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 42February 4, 2022 10:06 PM

Burt Lancaster's looks remind me a lot of French actor Jean-Paul Belmondo, not superficially really, but more about the type of look. Both have a very masculine, raw sexuality to them - athletic, great bodies with so-called weird (I think both were quite handsome) faces.

by Anonymousreply 43February 4, 2022 10:08 PM

Well, in fairness, r40, there was something to that "gay= commie = traitor" idea.

by Anonymousreply 44February 4, 2022 10:09 PM

Joan Rivers has a small part in The Swimmer

by Anonymousreply 45February 4, 2022 10:09 PM

[quote] is Bowers’ book worth the $10? A good read?

The documentary about him shows an old home movie of him sucking another guy. You have to look quick because it’s only about 3 seconds.

His wife is interesting. She didn’t want to know anything about his past life. She held all those old timey stars in high regard and didn’t want to hear anything that would break the illusion.

And I’m sure Corbin Bernsen is happy he’s dead so he can finally take control of his (Corbin’s) inheritance.

by Anonymousreply 46February 4, 2022 10:21 PM

The 2 paragraphs at the bottom of page 21 in R9's link is fascinating.

[quote] Files of the guests' names were confiscated during the raid and as a result, many prominent individuals have been reportedly revealed as apparently participants in these orgies.

[quote] Among these, according to [redacted] are the names of movie actors [redacted], ROCK HUDSON, [redacted]…

The last part blacked out after Hudson's name extends over the next 17 lines of text. That list must be a who’s who of gay Hollywood circa 1959/1960. And who got higher billing than Rock as the first redacted name?

by Anonymousreply 47February 4, 2022 10:47 PM

Monty Clift?

Brando?

by Anonymousreply 48February 4, 2022 10:56 PM

Someone should put out FOIA requests for other gay stars of the time and see what turns up

by Anonymousreply 49February 4, 2022 11:15 PM

Was Henry Willson throwing that party?

by Anonymousreply 50February 5, 2022 12:58 AM

Why didn't they invite MOI?

by Anonymousreply 51February 5, 2022 1:52 AM

R42, Was it a full frontal nude scene?

by Anonymousreply 52February 5, 2022 2:55 AM

These stories get so exaggerated over the years.

I didn't have more than 200 or 220 Marines at the most!

by Anonymousreply 53February 5, 2022 3:02 AM

"Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood" the only thing I remember from that documentary was his hoarding. I thought it was bizarre, especially when he was debating on whether to take a busted toilet sitting out in someone's yard but ultimately decided against it. For some reason that scene stuck with me, I kind of felt sorry for him.

by Anonymousreply 54February 5, 2022 3:03 AM

I looked through the FBI files. The FBI report (on page 21) is heavily redacted "information from a source." It's not proof of an orgy, like a cum rag autographed by the stars. Just because the FBI has reports from sources in their archives doesn't mean it's proof that something actually happened. It's just evidence that someone told them something that they wrote down.

by Anonymousreply 55February 5, 2022 3:10 AM

Seems like propaganda. 250 marines at one party?

by Anonymousreply 56February 5, 2022 3:12 AM

R52 no, a rear shot as he walks away from the camera to take a dip.

by Anonymousreply 57February 5, 2022 4:25 AM

Wasn't it Burt who said, with respect to plastic surgery, that his eyes were the only feature left untouched?

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by Anonymousreply 58February 5, 2022 4:56 AM

Burt's behind.

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by Anonymousreply 59February 5, 2022 5:08 AM

Looks pretty good, esp considering his age at the time

by Anonymousreply 60February 5, 2022 5:09 AM

Burt definitely swung both ways. He made some extra money posing for meat magazines during his early pre Hollywood circus years. He had a gay assistant for many years. He desperately wanted the part William Hurt played in Kiss of a Spider Woman.

I always felt he had one of the most fascinating movie careers. He chose lots of interesting projects as an actor and later as a movie producer. There are dozens of movies he got involved with that stand the test of times and are still very much relevant today. And he was very versatile in picking projects. From good fun Hollywood fare like The Crimson Pirate to challenging parts in Sweet Smell of Success and Atlantic City to classics like Arthur Millers All My Sons to working with Visconti in The Leopard. Burt did it all.

by Anonymousreply 61February 5, 2022 12:17 PM

Oh to be a dildo on that wall!!!

by Anonymousreply 62February 5, 2022 12:29 PM

I doubt dildoes were needed.

by Anonymousreply 63February 5, 2022 2:28 PM

Shelley wasn't picky about sleeping with guys who swung both ways.

by Anonymousreply 64February 5, 2022 4:13 PM

250 marines!!!! Were Cole Porter and Monty Woolley there?

by Anonymousreply 65February 5, 2022 4:17 PM

R64, Ain't that the truth.

by Anonymousreply 66February 5, 2022 4:20 PM

Here, Let's get you out of those wet clothes:

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by Anonymousreply 67February 6, 2022 11:38 AM

^ He was so hot

by Anonymousreply 68February 6, 2022 7:14 PM

William Hurt is on my celebrity death watch for 2022.

by Anonymousreply 69February 6, 2022 7:33 PM

Was he at the orgy?

by Anonymousreply 70February 6, 2022 7:36 PM

[quote]And I’m sure Corbin Bernsen is happy he’s dead so he can finally take control of his (Corbin’s) inheritance. ???

by Anonymousreply 71February 6, 2022 7:45 PM

What R71 said. I can't find any link between Corbin Bernsen and Burt Lancaster.

by Anonymousreply 72February 6, 2022 8:18 PM

he does look like him!

by Anonymousreply 73February 6, 2022 8:19 PM

[quote] What [R71] said. I can't find any link between Corbin Bernsen and Burt Lancaster.

It was mentioned in a post about Scotty Bowers. The documentary talks about Scotty having possession of a building that was supposed to belong to Corbin.

by Anonymousreply 74February 6, 2022 11:12 PM

I just watched The Kiss of the Spiderwoman. It was a good film and I'm guessing it would make a good play. Has it been done?

by Anonymousreply 75February 7, 2022 12:06 AM

R49 I would assume Tab Hunter, Anthony Perkins, Roddy McDowall, Sal Miineo . . .

by Anonymousreply 76February 7, 2022 3:22 AM

If you're among those who say film critics don't matter, consider this story. It begins in the pouring rain in Manhattan in 1982, with two men - the late, legendary actor Burt Lancaster and a newly discovered Brazilian director named Hector Babenco - sharing a doorway at Sardi's while awaiting their cars. Lancaster and Babenco had just picked up awards from the New York Film Critics Circle at a dinner inside the storied restaurant. Lancaster won the group's best actor prize for his performance as a retired mobster in Louis Malle's brilliantly evocative "Atlantic City," and Babenco was honored as director of "Pixote," his landmark social drama about the homeless children of Sao Paolo. As they stood there together, Lancaster was trying to learn more about the film Babenco said he dreamed of making, an adaptation of Manuel Puig's 1976 novel "Kiss of the Spider Woman.

" Although he spoke almost no English, Babenco conveyed enough of Puig's story line - about a political prisoner and his transvestite cellmate - to capture Lancaster's interest. The following day, Babenco dropped a copy of the novel off with Lancaster, and for the next year and a half the two men who had shared a doorway at Sardi's would share an obsession - to bring "Kiss of the Spider Woman" to the screen, with Lancaster in the role of the transvestite. "Lancaster was absolutely obsessed with the novel and with playing Luis Molina," said Babenco, who was in town last week to promote "Kiss of the Spider Woman's" rerelease on Friday. "He had five copies of the book in his house. He knew pages of it by heart. He always had a copy of it in his hand.

" Occasionally, when Babenco visited Lancaster, the 72-year-old actor also had high-heeled shoes on his feet and silk stockings on his legs. Whether the most macho of Hollywood leading men was cross-dressing as a Method actor, getting a feel for his character's compulsion or because it was a side of his own life, he never said. And Babenco never asked. In any case, it became moot when Lancaster suffered a massive heart attack in 1983. The near-go project at now-defunct Lorimar was canceled. But when William Hurt, a younger actor with a strong macho image, offered to play the role for scale ($1,020 a week), as his co-star Raul Julia had agreed, Babenco and producer David Weisman went back to beating the bushes for money, and found it. Babenco raised about 80% of the $650,000 budget in Brazil, and Weisman got the rest from friends in the U.

S. With the roles cast, and the money in place, Babenco led his stars through two months of rehearsals in Sao Paulo, and then spent a deliberate 13 weeks shooting what would become one of the acknowledged gems of the '80s. "Kiss of the Spider Woman" opened at New York's Cinema 1 theater in July 1985 and played there for nine months. It had a similar run in Los Angeles, and as critics' top-10 lists and various awards began coming out at the end of the year, it was suddenly getting buzz as an Oscar contender. In fact, it received four nominations - one for Hurt, who would win as best actor, and others for best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay (by Leonard Schrader). But what should have been a celebration turned into a wake when the company that owned the home-video rights to "Kiss" decided to release it the week after the Oscars. In protest, exhibitors canceled their bookings, and a movie hitting its commercial stride was gone, just like that. Weisman and Babenco own all rights to "Kiss" now, and after a leisurely rollout of the film in the U.

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by Anonymousreply 77February 7, 2022 3:32 AM

Burt hooked up with Tony Curtis while filming Sweet Smell of Success.

by Anonymousreply 78February 7, 2022 3:33 AM

R78, I would've thought they hooked up earlier while filming "Trapeze."

by Anonymousreply 79February 7, 2022 3:55 AM

R78, I would've thought they hooked up earlier while filming "Trapeze."

by Anonymousreply 80February 7, 2022 3:55 AM

They filmed Trapeze in Paris and Burt who was also producing the film, initially wanted Montgomery Clift in the role of Tino, but IIRC Clift declined and Tony Curtis was cast for the role.

I think they did Trapeze and Sweet Smell of Success back to back, establishing Tony Curtis as a serious, versatile and very capable actor.

by Anonymousreply 81February 7, 2022 4:34 AM

I wondered if Burt wanted to cast Monty so the two of them could get it on

by Anonymousreply 82February 7, 2022 4:53 AM

Burt was in Rocket Gibraltar (1988) with DL pariahs Kevin Spacey and Macauley Culkin.

by Anonymousreply 83February 7, 2022 5:00 AM

^ did Kevin show him where to get the booze and the boys?

by Anonymousreply 84February 7, 2022 5:01 AM

Tony and Burt

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by Anonymousreply 85February 7, 2022 6:31 AM

R82, Burt worked with Monty Clift in the 1953 film From Here To Eternity, there's a scene where they are sitting on the roadside drinking and talking about life and women, while this discussion is going on Burt casually caresses the back of Monty's head. The film was heavily queer coded.

by Anonymousreply 86February 7, 2022 8:00 PM

Nothing about an orgy in the docs at R9. Try again, Mary.

by Anonymousreply 87February 7, 2022 8:06 PM

Apparently Monty Clift didn't think much of Burt Lancaster, this is what he had to say behind his back, 'He is a terrible actor. He thinks he'd a dynamo; he's nothing but a big bag of wind, the most unctuous man I've ever met!"

by Anonymousreply 88February 7, 2022 8:10 PM

Burt was always too hammy for me. I liked him in Sweet Smell of Success, The Swimmer and Atlantic City but not much else.

Scotty Bowers' book is available at the LAPL on Overdrive if you want to read it. Check your local library they may have it.

He claimed he worked for tips as a bartender and seemed to hang more with the closeted married A list type actors than with the less closeted single crowd. A 250 marine free for all would not be his thing.

by Anonymousreply 89February 7, 2022 8:23 PM
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