Criminally Underrated Actors
Actors often taken for granted, but who were 100% committed to lifting those words off the page. I’ll start.
John Mills, Richard Boone, Trevor Howard, Jo Van Fleet, Karl Malden, William Gaminara, Dan Duryea, Lee Remick, Denis Quilley, Michel Serrault, Ed Begley, Sr., George Sanders, Maureen Lipman…I could go on and on…
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 25, 2021 8:05 AM
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I have someone in mind, but since she has received so many nominations (no wins, understandably), perhaps the term does not even apply… I doubt you’d even recognize her name.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 19, 2021 10:53 PM
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OP, so you mean not just underrated actors, but CRIMINALLY underrated actors?
Like not actively praising them would be worthy of jail time?
Is that what you mean?
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 19, 2021 10:57 PM
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Karl Malden = weird, squashed nose
William Gaminara = unknown
Denis Quilley = enormous nose
Michel Serrault = prominent nose
Ed Begley, Sr = enormous nose
Maureen Lipman = prominent nose
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 19, 2021 11:02 PM
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Nikolai Cherkosov = prominent nose
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 6 | December 19, 2021 11:05 PM
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R5 William Gaminara = polio victim
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 19, 2021 11:24 PM
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Five of OP’s list won Oscars (Mills, Malden, van Fleet, Begley, and Sanders, all supporting ), two others were nominees as leads (Howard and Remick). I’d say they were all recognized. What do you want—beatification?
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 20, 2021 12:38 AM
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Dan Duryea = a weasel / schlemiel with an unpronounceable name
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 20, 2021 12:41 AM
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OP I just mentioned Jo Van Fleet on another thread in regard to her performance as Peter Sellers' mom in I Love You, Alice B Toklas. The scene where she's laughing uncontrollably after eating a pot brownie is in every sense of the word hysterical. She's also good in The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight (1971), East of Eden (1955), I'll Cry Tomorrow (1956) and Cool Hand Luke (1967). Consummate performer
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 20, 2021 12:43 AM
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Is Jo Van Fleet the one who looks like Susan Hayward's mother?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 20, 2021 12:48 AM
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R12 she plays Lillian Roth's (Susan Hayward) mother
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 20, 2021 1:12 AM
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Bringing OP up-to-date, I'd venture Lindsay Lohan, Kristen Stewart, and Jennifer Jason Leigh.
As far as males go, I cannot say anything because I still mourn Phillip Seymour Hoffman.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 20, 2021 9:05 AM
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Wasn't he in The Streets of San Francisco?
I like how that TV show proves that San Francisco has never been governable.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 21, 2021 3:09 AM
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Oh, fuck you, OP. This "criminally underrated" list is of people well-regarded whose names you just learned."
Fuck you with Karl Malden's underrated nose.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 21, 2021 3:32 AM
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But Wikipedia says Karl Malden's bulbous nose was his trademark.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 21, 2021 3:58 AM
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Judy Garland was a very talented actress. Sinatra was good, too, when he made an effort.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | December 21, 2021 4:15 AM
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Richard Widmark (I passed him once on Park Avenue in Manhattan, bigger and more solidly built than he appeared onscreen, looked intelligent and distinguished, might have been in his late sixties at the time).
Robert Ryan
Robert Mitchum (he should have gotten an Oscar for his devastating performance as Max Cady in Cape Fear, in which he wiped the floor with Gregory Peck)
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 21, 2021 7:34 PM
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There’s a group of character or smaller time actors, who, when they come onto the screen in a film, tell me things are about to get excellent - John Carroll Lynch, Martha Plimpton, Donal Logue, Zach Grenier, Clancy Brown.
As for an up and comer who I think will be a huge movie star once she hits the perfect role - Julia Garner. She should have been nominated for an Oscar last year for The Assistant.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 21, 2021 7:48 PM
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When I read your post, OP, I thought you wrote “Joey Mills.” I was surprised somebody thought he was an underrated actor.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 21, 2021 7:58 PM
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No one ever "underrated" John Mills as an actor. He may not have attained leading man status, any more than actors like Ralph Richardson and Paul Scofield and Michael Redgrave did, but they were never underrated as actors by anyone. You can add Jack Hawkins to that list, as well.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 21, 2021 8:02 PM
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I'd say Gina Lollobrigida, though very popular for a while, was known more for her beauty, but she was really excellent in comedy, especially 'Buona Sera, Mrs. Campbell". Of course, OP left off people know for comedy, since comedy is extremely underrated, especially by the Oscar people.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 21, 2021 8:06 PM
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R22, I saw Zach Grenier on the stage. He was excellent. I love John Carroll Lynch, too
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 21, 2021 8:30 PM
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R25 Mills and Hawkins don't belong with the others you mention. They could only play one character.
They didn't have the range.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 21, 2021 10:10 PM
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Mills and Hawkins both played a variety of different characters, actually
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 21, 2021 10:31 PM
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Yes, they sometimes played Captains, Corporals and sometimes Lieutenants and sometimes Midshipmen.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 21, 2021 10:32 PM
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John Carroll Lynch
He does scary and menacing so well.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 36 | December 21, 2021 10:55 PM
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R34 LOL. He was very pretty to look at though.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 21, 2021 11:04 PM
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R29 - John Mills had no "range" and always played the same character?!
Let's see:
The shoemaker in Hobson's Choice?
The village idiot in Ryan's Daughter?
Prof. Higgins in Pygmalion on Broadway?
The belligerent working-class father in The Family Way?
The political activist in the comedy Escapade?
The IRA gunman in Dearden's The Gentle Gunman?
The police detective in Tiger Pay?
Captain Scott in Scott of the Antarctic?
Come on.
Hawkins did Shakespeare and had a trained voice just short of operatic quality. His looks and voice got him the parts that are most remembered by people who didn't look too closely, including thrillers and comedies.
He and Mills were fine actors.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 22, 2021 12:40 AM
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I thought Ashley Judd was quite good in Double Jeopardy and Ruby In Paradise. Too bad she kind of disappeared from the screen.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 22, 2021 2:33 AM
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R40
[quote] Prof. Higgins in Pygmalion on Broadway
Incorrect
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 46 | December 22, 2021 4:02 AM
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[quote] Hawkins did Shakespeare
Jack may have done the Bard on stage but neither you nor I nor any other Datalounger are alive to tell us about it.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 47 | December 22, 2021 4:19 AM
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John Mills also played the father in the movie "Swiss Family Robinson" and he had a very nice singing voice, starring in the wonderful musical "The Good Companions" with Judi Dench, playing the old theater cat in the televised "Cats" and I think he may have done a musical version of "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" on stage in the UK as well. Very talented. Yes, he did play also lots of military guys in films too.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 22, 2021 7:56 AM
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Christina Ricci. She’s capable of quite a lot considering only ‘The Opposite of Sex’, rewatched recently and it really holds up.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 22, 2021 8:09 AM
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John Gavin - like many good-looking actors, he was stereotyped as a pretty face. But, he was great in Spartacus and Imitation.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 22, 2021 12:10 PM
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R46 You're right, mea culpa, remembered he'd done but didn't look it up to check. But as Alfred D. is a first-class character role and quite far from the rank and file soldier that the poster upthread suggests is Mills ever played, it still speaks to Mills' range. He got a Supporting Actor Oscar for his role as the village idiot in Ryan's Daughter.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 22, 2021 12:47 PM
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R47 His work onstage including Shakespeare is extensive. He intended to focus on stage, and appeared as Mercutio on Broadway in 1951. I was alive at the time, actually, but not old enough to see it.
Like Mills, Hawkins had a wide variety of roles in thrillers, drama, comedy, and war on stage and onscreen.
Calling either actor One Role players is simply wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 22, 2021 12:55 PM
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Those fun facts you stumble upon when looking for something else.
Jack Hawkins was married to Jessica Tandy from 1932 to 1940. Tandy's so well known as one of a pair with Hume Cronyn, I was surprised she had a life before him.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 22, 2021 12:58 PM
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[quote] Dan Duryea = a weasel / schlemiel with an unpronounceable name
Say what??
Gugu Mbatha-Raw
Daniel Kaluuya
Chiwetel Ejiofor
David Oyelowo
Wunmi Mosaku
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 22, 2021 1:05 PM
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Dan Duryea was great in those creepy roles, starting with "The Little Foxes" and in tons of film noirs. There was one that TCM Film Noir Alley host Eddie Muller showed this past year that actually had Duryea as kind of a hero, or at least ultimately being that way.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 22, 2021 4:02 PM
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I think it might have been the one co-starring Gale Storm.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 22, 2021 4:03 PM
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Joan Collins
She has a flair for high camp and makes it look effortless.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 22, 2021 5:00 PM
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Duryea's name unpronounceable? Not in the British Isles. It's a straight-up Irish name.
The unpronounceable names from the area are the ones that are pronounced entirely differently from the way they are written, like "Mainwaring" (pronounced Mannering), Gloucester (the "est" in the middle is silent, it's Gloster, and that also goes for places like Leicester), Ralph when it's "Rafe", Buccleuch (as in the Duke of - pronounced Buckley) . . .
Let's see - then we have Cumberbatch, and from the Scots, names like McKay/MacKay/Mackay, which Americans instinctively pronounce Ma-KAY, but in Scotland where it originated is pronounced Ma-KIE (rhymes with pie).
Duryea? No problem.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 22, 2021 7:43 PM
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R29 R40 Mills was Pip in Lean's Great Expectations as well and he gave one of his finest dramatic performances opposite Alec Guinness in 1960s Tunes of Glory with the NY Times referring to Mills' performance as' brilliantly intense' and 'a fascinating contrast to his Colonel in The Bridge on the River Kwai'
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 22, 2021 11:15 PM
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[quote] Mills' performance as' brilliantly intense' and 'a fascinating contrast to his Colonel in The Bridge on the River Kwai'
Mills didn't appear in 'Kwai'.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 22, 2021 11:18 PM
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R63 My mistake. The reference was to Guinness' Colonel in Bridge. Bosley Crowther said 'The acting is brilliant, and Mr. Mills is remarkably intense.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 22, 2021 11:37 PM
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I didn't get the ending of Bridge over River Kwai.
Was a man sucking his dick? Or was he sucking another man's dick?
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 23, 2021 6:39 AM
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Sir John Mills, the owner of both an Academy Award and a knighthood, is "criminally underrated"??
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 23, 2021 6:43 AM
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[quote] Was a man sucking his dick
Which man, which dick, R65 ?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | December 23, 2021 6:44 AM
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R40
[quote] John Mills in 'Hobson's Choice'
Two minutes on Google will tell you that Mills was not supposed to be in that film
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 69 | December 23, 2021 11:55 PM
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R69 But he was, Blanche, he was!
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 24, 2021 12:39 AM
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R39 can you imagine what it must have been like to be Olivia Newton-John & Matt Lattanzi in the 80s? Two beautiful people living in Malibu California……
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 24, 2021 7:59 PM
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[quote] I didn't get the ending of Bridge over River Kwai.
Colonel Nicholson was torn between duty to his country.. and duty to his own personal duty.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 73 | December 24, 2021 10:04 PM
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[quote] John Mills …starring in the wonderful musical "The Good Companions" with Judi Dench…
Almost half a century ago. And which no living Datalounger has seen.
R48.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 76 | December 25, 2021 5:00 AM
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They weren’t underrated but they got the breaks that came their way.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 25, 2021 5:06 AM
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[quote] Roger Livesey
He gets a good showing in this black and white comedy. Even the credits had me chuckling!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 78 | December 25, 2021 5:37 AM
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"The Good Companions" does have a really good CD of the show though, with a very fine score.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 25, 2021 6:29 AM
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