A Very Brady Christmas (1988)

This film also happily ends with Alice proclaiming the their dinner to be the best Christmas Dinner in the history of reheated Christmas dinners but would've been better if it had her pies of which just kept asking what happened to them.

Nobody cared about those damn pies!

Jan was a cunt!

New and improved "Cindy" was so hot, that I almost went straight! Ok maybe not, but she was hot!

But to be clear, Peter will always be the hottest in that family.

This left me with a bunch of questions:

Where was U of A that Cindy was attending?

Was Bobby paying for business school on his own? Otherwise Mike and Carol would've been aware of his nonattendance.

Why was Greg's wife so inconsiderate of changing their plans since all 6 of his siblings would be together for the first time in a long time and that they visited her family the past few years?

Why wouldn't Mike and Carol think a double bed was appropriate for Jan and Phillip? And why does Carol creepily encourage them to fuck and on Christmas morning?

Is Peter's office just out in the middle of nowhere? The backdrop looks like its two hours east of Phoenix.

Why was Maureen a glorified under five?

This movie is the true gem of The Brady Bunch universe. I can't believe I hadn't seen it until a few years ago.

Peter looked so sexy in his night shirt with his beautiful bare feet.

I agree R3. If you like the Brady Bunch then you will love this cornball shit. It is a spoof within a spoof. So many years later they captured the original series perfectly!

So this is Brady 80s entertainment? 😂

Did anyone else have the Brady Bunch Christmas album? I loved that album & used to play it all the time. At some point, my mother "lost it", never to be seen again, but I loved listening the BB warbling their way through Christmas

[quote] Eve Plumb plays cunt flawlessly.

“Plays.” Sure, Jan

It's so fucking dumb but sure as fuck I end up watching it every few years. I can remember everyone's storylines but Marcia's. What was her dilemma?

Maybe Maureen was coked out and they only used her in the scenes where Marcia was absolutely necessary.

R10 oh maybe. Is that why her part was recast for the subsequent Brady's series that followed this movie.

[quote] This film also happily ends with Alice proclaiming the their dinner to be the best Christmas Dinner in the history of reheated Christmas dinners but would've been better if it had her pies of which just kept asking what happened to them.

You wanna try this again, hoss?

This is speculation based on McCormick’s history. During production of the early 80s series The Brady Brides, McCormick’s drug use was out of control and held up production several times. Sherwood Schwartz and son Lloyd tried to get her help (I believe they got her to rehab) but they probably underwrote her part in the Christmas movie not knowing if she would be reliable.

There were also negotiations with all the “kid” actors who were ambivalent about returning so maybe they limited the part thinking it might be a different actress playing Marcia.

Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!

[quote] I can remember everyone's storylines but Marcia's. What was her dilemma?

That's because the dilemma was really her husband's, who lost his job.

[quote] Is that why her part was recast for the subsequent Brady's series that followed this movie.

She had just had a baby before The Bradys went into production and she didn't want to deal with the schedule of a series with a newborn. Not long after A Very Brady Christmas, there was a Brady themed episode of the sitcom Day By Day (Family Ties spin off). Maureen is very pregnant in it.

[quote] But to be clear, Peter will always be the hottest in that family.

If you're counting grandkids, I would go with Kevin Brady. Way better pictures with shorter hair at the link.

Pete was freeballin' in that nightshirt!

A Very Brady Gloryhole.

🕳 💦

The set decorator should've gotten an Emmy for their uber 80s update to the house. The pastels were enough to rival Over Our Heads.

The biggest cunt in the movie is the woman at the travel agency who tells Carol, "Mrs. Brady, if that's your REAL name." Love her!

Then she kisses up to Carol when the Special Bank Account money mixup is revealed.

BTW, was it an in-joke that Carol wanted to surprise Mike with a Christmas trip to gay Greece?

The replacement Cindy actress in this movie seemed poor.

How so?

[quote] BTW, was it an in-joke that Carol wanted to surprise Mike with a Christmas trip to gay Greece?

That didn’t go unnoticed by me either.

This was the #2 TV movie of the year, with a 39 share. The movie's success led directly to the series The Bradys (which quickly flopped).

R16 Nice try, but below is how Zachary Bostrom looked in the 1988 movie! He was not a contender.

And although he is cute in the adult pictures you posted, he looks nowhere near as good as Christopher Knight looked at his age!

Thindy Brady looks different to me...

and she doesn't smell like vodka and ciggies

I don't think he was freeballing, r17. I studied that scene closely back in the day and was always convinced he was wearing dark colored briefs.

Did Florence have it in her contract that she got to sing?

I didn't know MM had a drug problem; she has a mentally disabled brother that she's tweeted about numerous times & she (seems at least) like a genuine caring person

She was taken advantage of by Hollywood execs who all wanted to fuck Marcia Brady with the promise of getting roles. Then she was tossed aside.

[quote]She was taken advantage of by Hollywood execs who all wanted to fuck Marcia Brady with the promise of getting roles. Then she was tossed aside.

Ha! Like a used coochie!

Hahahaha!

Was Alan Melvin unavailable? Why did they cast David Arquette's father instead?

where can I watch the whole thing OP? I haven’t seen this in 10 to 15 years.

When it’s on TV now, so much is cut out, including the infamous “Mrs Brady, if that’s your REAL NAME!” line.

R33 It's on Hulu

Sam plays it on a loop down at his Butcher shop...

Phillip’s a fag, right?

R37, yup!

In the late 80s or early 90s, Robert Reed was traveling in some dinner theater show. It stopped in a far flung Chicago suburb.

Some straight guys I knew who were in their early 20s were hanging out at a bar, when Reed walked in. Just some random suburban bar/restaurant like Bennigans.

They made a beeline to him because he was Mr Brady and had fun chatting with him about Brady trivia. He invited them back to his hotel to continue the party and they went because he was Mr Brady

When they met him there he was waiting for them in a shorty leopard print robe. They told me they shouted in unison “Mr Brady is gay,” laughed hysterically and fled.

I always feel bad for Reed when I remember that story.

I remember fake Cindy she was on Charles and charge too. She acted like it gave her a headache to walk and talk

R39 That’s stupid why would he wear that to greet a pack of straight guys?

I just read OP’s post. So homophobic.

Blocked.

I meant R1.

Fake Cindy in Brady Christmas was played by Jennifer Runyon.

Ironically, Christopher Knight and Jennifer Runyon played love interests on Another World in 1981, when he played Leigh Hobson and she played Sally Frame.

10 things you probably forgot about the '80s classic 'A Very Brady Christmas'

[quote] And why does Carol creepily encourage them to fuck and on Christmas morning?

Carol enjoyed listening to people fucking. She became a real problem over the years in our neighborhood.

Marcia's problem for that TV movie was that her dumpy loser husband Wally was laid off by the toy company he worked for. She was a stay-at-home mom so that was their only income, and she was embarrassed.

I lived for this movie as a gayling in the 80s. I haven't seen it in a million years but I remember everything you are all referencing because I wore out the VHS watching it back then.

RIP Robert Reed.

The best part was "Dr." Greg Brady's sleazy pornstache.

[quote] I remember fake Cindy she was on Charles and charge

oh DEAR!

R46, who are The Dittwilers? Did they live next to the Dickwilters?

R50 lmaoooooooooooooooo.

R37 Phillip is a 73 year old effeminate former Broadway dancer with no history of ever dating women. You do the math.

He's all yours Matt!

R43 You are retarded!

Wally was packing a package when he played Mark's roommate on One Day at a Time. As was Boyd Gaines. Tight pants were everything back then.

R55 Post the pictures or video link please!!!

I love that DAY BY DAY episode they did. It’s very funny and well written..

Equally good is Christopher Knight and Barry Williams as a gay couple on THAT 70’S SHOW.

R56, you want to see pictures of that simian Jerry Houser? Watch The Brady Brides instead. Jan's husband shows off his extremely fit body on there.

R58 This may be the wrong thread, but even though he is a dork, I have always had a weird crush on Jerry Houser! 🤪

Hey, to each his own. He also appears shirtless in The Brady Brides.

Jan's hairdo was so 1988. I remember so many woman having that style with dark roots.

[quote] I remember so many woman having that style

Oh, dear!

I wonder if anyone heard Phillip taking down Jan's stockings and slipping her his candy cane. I guess with all those people in the house probably not.

Jan looks like she should be working the Avis counter circa 1986.

I was excited both times the show returned to series form - in ‘81 as The Brady Brides and ‘90 as The Bradys. Neither show captured what the original had, however. TBB was the better of the two. The Bradys did not work as a “serious” drama. Both series ran less than 10 episodes.

[quote]Maybe Maureen was coked out and they only used her in the scenes where Marcia was absolutely necessary.

There are episodes of the variety show where Maureen didn't show up due to drugs and they just staged the musical numbers without her in hopes no one would notice.

We didn’t notice.

Has there ever been a series that both captured the spirit of the original while at the same time making it contemporary. The only other series that produced good reunion movies was The Waltons but they had it easier since they were always in the past. The final ones in the 1990s were set in the 60s. A Very Brady Christmas had to capture nostalgia while at the same time clearly taking place in the then present day. Honestly, I don't know why they seemed unable to successfully turn A Very Brady Christmas into the weekly The Bradys. Introduce some drama, but not too much or too serious, they seemed to have managed it with the movie. With the series, they seemed to swing back and forth between silly sitcom and heavy soap, it was like plopping the Brady house smack dab in the middle of Seaview Circle.

The laugh track was a terrible idea. So was making Bobby a parapalegic.

R69 Yes, that is an example of what I said about The Bradys it had a laugh track like a sitcom, even though the movie didn't, but then they had to go and make America's baby brother paralyzed. It was just inconsistent and was like two shows thrown together in a blender.

From what I recall reading in some interview at the time, producers said the original idea for the Bradys was to do a series of movies themed around some holiday --- Memorial Day, Election Day, Thanksgiving, Fourth of July, etc. Have some dramatic thing happening to propel the plot, but also includes lots of trademark Brady humor, as happened in A Very Brady Christmas.

Producers were against doing a weekly series, but CBS was pushing for it rather than periodic movies. Naturally, the network won. Since the new show was going to be a 60 minute weekly series rather than a 90 or 120 movie, they had to cut out much of the humor to tell the story in that 60 minutes.

But you can still see the bones of the holiday themed ideas in some of the episode plotlines. Bobby the race car driver is injured would tie into the Indy 500 which rides on Memorial Day. Mike running for elected office tied into Election Day.

R71 I bet CBS is kicking themselves now. They have to make a fortune from the streaming/airings of the Christmas one every year.

The plan was to do several TV movies for sweeps - Bobby's car crash was going to be for February, Mike running for city councilman was going to be for November but CBS was suddenly short a series and they needed to fill the timeslot quickly so they asked Lloyd Schwartz to make it a weekly series. Part of The Bradys failure was the timeslot - Friday at 8pm? They should've put it on at 9pm. It actually won the timeslot with the 2 hour premiere in the second hour but in the following weeks kept losing the 8 o'clock hour in the following weeks.

All of them arriving on Christmas Eve was a tad late, no?

Cindy liked to lick the frosting.

THE BRADYS was bad. You know it’s bad from the start when you hear Florence singing the dreadful into.

I say this as a huge BRADY BUNCH fan.

The only character I can think of who successfully transitioned from a sitcom to a drama was Lou Grant.

Can't imagine why CBS thought Brady-something would work.

R76, Florence's version is horrendous. I never came across it until YouTube. The sax version they used for the premiere was the best version then they switched to the electric guitar version. Some higher up wisely canned Flo's version and kept it for when it reaired on Fox Family years later.

Florence’s version is clearly the worst of the 3. She’s obviously a good singer, but that rendition was awful.

The lyrics are almost as bad as The Brady Brides

When a show only lasts six episodes but went through three theme songs, you know the show has major problems behind the scenes.

They should've made it more about the grandkids.

Part of why The Brady’s didn’t work was because of Fake Marcia, the way people never accepted Fake Jan, but were perfectly fine with Fake Cindy for some reason.

Jerry's 1981 hairy body was HOT!

Of course that snobby bitch Jan was fucking hubby while Bobby won the race! No wonder they all hated her.

They should've had Jan walk in on Peter and Phillip in bed. Then she'd REALLY have something to pissed off about.

Poor Val.

Wasn’t Cindy around 26 in 1988? Why was she a freshman in college?

R88 Well they did always write Cindy as kinda slow...

R25. That is not Zachary Bostrom. That is Jonathan Taylor Thomas. This image is from "The Bradys" TV show.

I completely forgot that Cindy's college roommate was played by Tonya Lee Williams, who later found success as Dr. Olivia Winters on The Young & The Restless. To me she is one of the most beautiful actresses, of any race, to have appeared on TV.

She was a senior in 1988, R88. She mentions her last finals and being done with college. Considering they dropped her off at college at the beginning of The Brady Girls Get Married, she should've been done in '85.

R92 That was something I don't understand. Surely if those were her final finals, that means she would have graduated before returning home for Christmas. Are you telling me that none of the Bradys nor Alice wanted to attend the baby girl's college graduation? Or maybe the fact that it evidently took her an overly long time to earn a degree from what I assume was a party school, they were more embarrassed than proud of her achievement. In real life the original Bobby and Cindy actors are only a year apart, yet Bobby dropped out of GRAD school TWO years prior.

Cindy took a couple of years off after the unfortunate frat party incident.

Thindy Thucked my Cocth!

r87, that bitch be crazy!

In their defense, R93, a lot of schools don't have a December graduation ceremony and the students walk in May with their class. I guess "U of A" followed suit. It was ridiculous though that they still had her in school.

R97 really? I've never heard of that. I can't think of any college or university, near me, that does/did that prior to the pandemic, especially large institutions.

r98, the college where I teach at does that. It's a small college, but still.

How do you know U of A is a large institution?

[quote] the college where I teach at

God, I hope it’s not English you teach.

R99 I just figured it was because it is a University. Most Universities are rather large. I also figured it was a party school, most likely the University of Arizona.

The actress who played Cindy was prettier and more likable than that Trump-loving homophobe, Susan Olsen, and her Mitch McConnell neck.

I thought Jennifer Runyon did a great job. And yes, she was way hotter than Susan.

Of the replacements for the girls in the various series, I would say Fake Jan was the best: Geri reischl was genuienly likeable, and was pretty but unusual looking as the real Jan (Eve Plumb) was at the time.

Jennifer Runyon was not bad as Fake Cindy, though she is far prettier than Susan Olsen, and did nothing to evoke her lisp.

Leah Ayres was the least successful, as Fake Marcia, I think because Maureen McCormack is the most memorable of the six children and the hardest to replace. To me, she IS the Brady Bunch--even more than Robert Reed or Florence Henderson or even Ann B. Davis were. I always think the movies would not have been successful had Christine Taylor not done such an uncanny job of impersonating her.

[quote]I always think the movies would not have been successful had Christine Taylor not done such an uncanny job of impersonating her.

Well, much of that was her uncanny resemblance to Maureen McCormick, but Christine Taylor did do a fantastic job in the role.

[quote]Maureen McCormack is the most memorable of the six children and the hardest to replace. To me, she IS the Brady Bunch

I'd never really thought about it, but I think you're correct. Marcia is certainly the most iconic of the six children, which by default makes Maureen the hardest to replace.

Greg's 1988 mustache was HOT!

I'd say Greg and Marica are the two that stick out in people's memories the most. Marcia might stick out a little bit more because of the famous nose breaking scene and, ironically, Jan's "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha" which has become a catchphrase.

[quote] Jan's "Marsha, Marsha, Marsha"

Oh, dear, dear, dear!

R108 It was a simple mistake as noted by the fact I used Marcia earlier. I've never known a Marcia all the ones I've met spell it Marsha.

[quote] I've never known a Marcia all the ones I've met spell it Marsha.

Well, that excuses nothing. This one spells it "Marcia," which is the original spelling for the name anyway going back to ancient Rome.

Marcia, Marsha, Marchea

While Eve Plumb and Maureen McCormick grew prettier as they reached their teen years, Susan Olsen was just homely. It's no wonder her career took a nosedive after the Brady Bunch. Not even a guest spot on The Love Boat.

....

If it didn't end up being a special Christmas with all the kids, I wonder who would've come home for Christmas that year. Just Peter and Bobby?

[quote] It was a simple mistake as noted by the fact I used Marcia earlier.

Actually, you spelled it Marica first. But I’m just funnin ya anyway.

[quote] I've never known a Marcia all the ones I've met spell it Marsha.

Anyone who spells it that way is nothing more than pure gutter trash.

R116 Kiss my ass.

They really drove home the fact that Bobby lives a bachelor life and doesn't cook with the pizza box, Chinese food and hamburger containers and a popcorn tub all spread out over his kitchen table.

You all say that Marcia was barely in the movie, yet as I rewatch right now she’s shown more than Greg. He really had nothing to do in this.

r119

What was up with the quirky music played during all the scenes with Jan and her husband?

Jan’s hubby was attractive. I love Alice and I get upset when I watch this because she is the one they send to pick up each kid with their others and she has to carry and push their luggage. Wtf.

r122

R121 The director wanted to make Marcia's family life seem more fulfilled so they made Jan and her husband the comic relief. That's why they added that whompy music during all their scenes.

There was nothing comical about Jan’s scenes. If that’s true, it’s a stupid choice r124

Alice was the comic relief.

I hated Marcia's 1988 white-and-khaki sweater outfit at the beginning.

AND HER PHONE.

The Brady Bunch is one TV series that should have stayed in the 70s. Every single Brady show they've made after the original has been awful.

[quote] You all say that Marcia was barely in the movie, yet as I rewatch right now she’s shown more than Greg. He really had nothing to do in this.

Greg is in more scenes and has more lines. With the exception of "Don't be sorry, just be Wally" Maureen has no lines in the last third of the movie.

[quote] Greg's 1988 mustache was HOT!

Imagine being the middle of a Barry & Chris sandwich in 1988.

R129 I was in the middle of one in 1977

OMG, I am traumatized more thank Blake Stuerman!

[quote] "Don't be sorry, just be Wally"

Criminally overlooked by the Emmys for both acting and writing

R122 Alice is the fucking slave!

I didn't like that shit either. That was probably the biggest flaw in this movie.

It's bad enough Sam dumped her to go season another woman's rump roast, but to have her play chauffeur and bag handler was just cruel.

That may have been funny years ago, but the bitch is elderly now. It looked like elder abuse, especially as these grown ass men walked away and left her struggling with their baggage. 🤬 Fuck all of them for that!

Did you even watch the movie? Alice's first morning there, she goes to make scrambled eggs for Mike and Carol tells her she's not their housekeeper anymore. Then at Christmas dinner, Carol reminds her again and says there's a place at the table for her. And Carol and Mike don't dress her, she chose to put on her uniform just like she probably volunteered to pick the kids up at the airport while they got the house ready.

R134 Of course I watched the movie, did you or is it that your bitch ass can't handle a critical analysis of a movie that may differ from your own so you feel the need to personally attacking the author??

Alice is now an old lady - probably forced into retirement many years ago. They should have told her what I tell my grandmother when she jumps up and tries to do shit she shouldn't: "NO! Why don't you sit down, I will handle it."

The writers put that in for comedy. They were going for nostalgia feels. The point I was making is that TO ME it wasn't funny. It didn't work in the way they thought it would. TO ME, it was cruel.

I don't give a shit whether or not you agree. This is not a consensus board. But why do you have to be an asshole about it?

If I didn't cancel my Christmas party this year, I would've invited R133/R135.

The crooked construction guy is the Pepsi board member from Mommie Dearest.

[quote] They should have told her what I tell my grandmother when she jumps up and tries to do shit she shouldn't: "NO! Why don't you sit down, I will handle it."

And, that is condescending. In my experience older people prefer to still be treated as adult human beings. Just because a person is older that doesn’t mean they can’t do anything. Alice wasn’t a frail woman and not much older than Carol and Mike. In the movie, especially, she had a reason to want to keep busy, her marriage had fallen apart. If the Bradys had done like you all she would’ve done was sit around thinking about Sam and getting depressed. Alice wearing her uniform is also simple, because of her current turmoil she wanted to return to a happier time in her life, wearing the uniform in a house full of Bradys accomplished that for her.

R138 I would rather be condescending than let her injure herself.

I don't know what kind of men the Bradys are supposed to be, but I am not about to allow a woman in her 60s to carry my bags, especially when she is struggling to do so.

Having her wear that uniform seems a bit psychotic (even if it was her idea). I would not enable or encourage that behavior.

R139 and you are a cunt. Unless it is not something they physically can’t do, and they are mentally competent, I’m not going to treat them as I would a child. They are adults and free to make their own choices and mistakes.

Since they all arrived separately I would assume Alice met them at the airport put them in cabs and collected all the luggage to take in her car. Then when she arrived she unloaded it all instead of letting everyone know she was there and needed help. It would be different if they had ordered her to carry their bags.

r140

R140 And you are an asshole who is completely FULL OF SHIT! 😂

Obviously you are an Elder Gay. Stop trying to confuse elder empowerment (and independence) with elder abuse! You know that is not what we are talking about.

You were WRONG! Take the L! You are only digging a deeper hole of idiocy for yourself! 🤪

Whether you are gay or straight there are still important concepts such as decency, chivalry and respecting elders. I shouldn't have to lecture your old ass on this shit. I guess there is no fool like an old fool!

They knew damn well Alice's old ass had no business carrying their bags whether ordered to or not. And you SHOULD know it too!

Stop playing crazy! OR maybe you aren't playing...  🤨

Girls, girls, girls. You're both pretty.

We're a family and family's stick together. There's no need for this arguing and name calling. We're all entitled to have different opinions.

Besides, Santa's watching and you don't want to end up with lumps of coal in your stocking.

Did she get injured? No she didn't. Chill out bud.

Is anyone else turned on by R130's pic?

Their tree was going to dry out very quickly. They came it nailed to some wood. How were they going to water it?

Yes R145! It's hot!

Bobby looks like he would be a good bottom.

I bet Mike Reed was a bottom.

R144 You missed the point. Prevention is easier than the cure. Why don't you chill out. MYOB!

[quote] I bet Mike Reed was a bottom.

WHO?!

I remember reading years ago that toward the end of the original series Maureen and Chris made an album together despite the fact that Chris, self-admittedly couldn't sing. However, Peter and Marcia were the two most popular characters on the show so it was decided they should cut an album. Interesting because if there were ever two siblings on the BB who had little to do with each other it would be Marcia and Peter.

Peter was part of the "oh my nose" incident and ruined her chances at becoming a Booster. I'd say Jan and Bobby had the least to do with each other.

Interesting that you can single out Maureen’s voice at certain points singing solo, but never Chris’. He’s said he couldn’t sing or dance compared to the others.

They both look stupid there.

[quote] and family's stick together.

Oh, DEAR!

Golden Thirsts just sounds all sorts of wrong.

Golden Throats sounds more like a gay bar than a Brady kid song.

Robert Reed used to throw sex parties at his Pasadena home in the 80s. Probably around the time this Christmas movie was made.

R142 Ann B. Davis and therefore, apparently, Alice was only around 62 years old when this movie was made. She was not yet ready for pudding cups and going to bed after Wheel of Fortune. I am a millennial but I am a part-time caregiver for my grandparents. Of course there are things I wouldn't let my 90 something year old grandparents do now, though instead of telling them they can't do it, I give them lighter tasks or I hurry up and do it so they can't. I try hard to never just tell them they can't do something because it saps their self-esteem and makes them depressed. But, I would've never told them they couldn't do anything when they were 62. For one thing, I was a child and secondly they were still working in cotton mills doing back breaking labor.

They could have let Alice carry one bag and they take the rest.

We should all write to the producers so that they can refilm that scene the way we want it.

What was up with Martha Quinn's sister in the Brady 500? She looked like a pregnant drag version of Joan Crawford.

And I know it was late 80s/early 90s, but did they have to stick Peter in all of those baggy sweaters and sweat suits?

And WTF with Wally, Marcia and the kids just suddenly showing up because they were homeless?

What is Brady 500?

^ It's the same as Botany 500 Rose.

Look it up.

R162 has no business being on a Brady thread, not knowing what the Brady 500 is.

OMG just answer the fucking question. Jesus Christ.

Brady 500 was the first 2 episodes of The Bradys, which focused on Bobby's race car career, wreck, and paralysis. You could have just looked that up yourself.

R166 thank you.

Peter won The Weakest Link.

Marcia and Jan’s husbands were both guys neither one of them would have dated as teens. That’s why the Bradys spin offs went nowhere…who wanted to see Marcia and Jan with dullard husbands they had zero chemistry with? Hell, Charlie the wallpaper guy was cuter. And remember the ice cream store/tennis guy? He was hot. So how’d Marcia end up with a goofy toy designer? Can’t remember what Jan’s husband did but he acted like her father.

That’s not why it flopped lmao

He was a professor who studied the gay legged goose.

[quote] She looked like a pregnant drag version of Joan Crawford.

LOL!!

R169 I didn't mind Marcia and Wally, but I've always loved the trope of the beautiful young woman falling for the loser nerd. Jan and Phillip didn't work because they were both nerds, and they were the worst kind, boring nerds.

Nora was such a cunt. She would rather wake up at her parents' house than with her seven year old kid? Wonder how many years of therapy he had to endure.

Phillip was hot enough for Jan. I had no idea what Marcia saw in Wally tbh. Homely pure and simple and not the hot ass guy I thought Marcia would marry. He must’ve had one huge cock wreaking that Brady pussy.

What is it with gay men thinking everyone marries for looks? Maybe that’s why divorce is so high now? People aren’t marrying for the right reasons? Because most women I know married men that were good to them, made them laugh, made them feel safe, etc. and that made them even more attractive to them.

Those good looks take you but so far.

It wasn’t just about looks. Not at all. These guys seemed more like their brothers than their husbands.

Phillip was quite attractive to me 🤷

And I see guys like Wally married to beautiful women all the time.

Nora Coons won the essay contest. Could it be the same Nora who married Greg?

[quote] Nora was such a cunt. She would rather wake up at her parents' house than with her seven year old kid? Wonder how many years of therapy he had to endure.

I remember when we first watched this when I was five. My mom was like Greg needs to divorce her.

Marcia wouldn't have married a loser like Wally. She would've married a rich guy that would've bought her a big Mercedes and a Mcmansion. Jan and Phillip were well suited for each other--they were just boring AF.

I wonder if Robert Reed invited Ron Kuhlman (Phillip) to his gay parties.

[Quote]Ann B. Davis and therefore, apparently, Alice was only around 62 years old when this movie was made. She was not yet ready for pudding cups and going to bed after Wheel of Fortune.

R158 I realize you were trying to be humorous but it is falling flat because that was not the conversation. You fell for the side-track the trolling fool was attempting to lead you on.

If you watch the movie you will see that Alice WAS STRUGGLING to carry the baggage and all the younger people [including the MEN] laughed it off. It was not funny then and it is not funny now.

I never suggested telling her she INCOMPETENT do something. Who would do that? Come on, don't play stupid. I recommended insisting on doing it yourself. There is a difference. Specifically, I said:

[Quote]Alice is now an old lady - probably forced into retirement many years ago. They should have told her what I tell my grandmother when she jumps up and tries to do shit she shouldn't: "NO! Why don't you sit down, I will handle it."

These people have known this woman most of their lives. She was obviously eager to help. A smart person would find ways to let her help that doesn't risk her injuring herself in the process. They wouldn't laugh at her.

Next time, read the thread before jumping in on the side of trolls with an axe to grind. 🙄😱I mean, WTF?

The Brady Boys have known Alice their whole life, no? She raised those boys.

The bigger question is what worked better to get out their cum-stained underwear - Best of Safe?

R184 Yes there is an early episode, "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore," that focuses on Alice's feelings of being replaced by Carol in the boy's lives.

[quote]The Brady Boys have known Alice their whole life, no? She raised those boys.

No just Bobby. Alice makes a reference that she knew Bobby from when he was born, in the "Stepmother" episode.

We can assume Mrs Brady died giving birth to Bobby, and Bobby states Mike had Tiger longer than he had him in the "Tiger runs away" episode

Bobby is 7 in season 1, Peter is 11 and Greg is 13.

So Alice has been with Bobby since born, Peter since 4 and Greg since 6.

I’d say she raised them.

"Greece? Or the ORIENT?"

"The Orient? Or GREECE?"

Why is Carol so upset once she sees Mike at the real estate office. She couldn't put two and two together and realize the reason there's no money left is because he withdrew it? Too much Aquanet I guess.

Jan: I never knew who dad liked better - you or the Venus De Milo.

More like the statue of David.

R193, I was hoping for a tacky dance production from their variety show

From Eve…

From Maureen…

Wow, she even made a little jokie r195. Someone must have forced the stick out of her ass.

R197 She seems to have come to peace with being a "Brady." In many ways I would say she was the most like Robert Reed. She has always seemed to view herself as an ACTRESS! Hopefully, she has finally figured out that Brady stuff can provide her with the money to allow her to pursue her more artistic and less lucrative endeavors. And, therefore view it as a blessing not a curse.

Peter was voted "most fuckable Brady", creepily by the Bradys.

God what a piece of shit this is

^ Mrs. Crane

Peter and Bobby looked hot, Greg looked Eh and Dad was dropping purses with every gesture.

Do you have any knowledge or fondness for the original series?

R203 Sure I do. But trying to modernize or update the series just didn't work.

R204 One more question, age range?

I liked the Christmas episode from the first season when Cindy asks Santa to give Carol her voice back. Their present wrapping belongs in The Smithsonian. Those bows!

I watched this the other night, and it was kind of bittersweet seeing how openly fey Robert Reed had become by that point. Really drove home how much he had to hide during the original series, and that maybe he could've been out and happy if he had lived longer.

Bobby looked hideous. Hot? Lmaoo

He was over the top in this one.

[quote] I had no idea what Marcia saw in Wally tbh. Homely pure and simple and not the hot ass guy I thought Marcia would marry.

Obviously you never followed the show.

Marcia learned from Doug Simpson and Charley that awkward loyalty and kindness easily beat shallow hotness.

R210 I did follow the show. I’ve seen every episode. Charley was just a seat filler and a blip to the multiple other hot guys Marcia dated or fantasized about on the show. Girls like Marcia are always trading up.

You love to stereotype r211. Some girls like Marcia do that but you will find many Marcia’s who marry guys beneath them in looks too.

R175 I have to agree with you! Wally must have a huge cock spurting lots of cum and he fucks the shit outta Marcia every chance he gets! That would be the only explanation for her marrying him. She would not marry someone so unattractive and unsuccessful. Carol surely taught her to marry for money and looks.

She was mommy and daddy (and America's princess). She would have married someone gorgeous and rich.

The real reason we were forced to suspend our disbelief and "accept" Wally as Marcia's husband is because he is a comedian. That is why he was brought in. The movie needed him.

It is a sitcom but let's be honest, none of the Bradys were ever funny. Cute? YES! Corny? YES! Funny? NO!

The "situations" of the late 60s and early 70s that the Bradys found themselves in for plot devices were no longer cute or funny especially since the cast is now adults. They did not want this to be a spoof. So they "modernized" the show by going with the "self-deprecating" humor that was popular in the late 80s by giving Marcia this funny loser of a husband. It worked. Wally served his purpose.

“Kids, we’ve invited you all home for Christmas to tell you…Dad’s gay”

"...not only that, but I seroconverted sometime back!"

[quote] I watched this the other night, and it was kind of bittersweet seeing how openly fey Robert Reed had become by that point.

He really queened out when he asked where his checkbook was at the very beginning.

The home decor, hairstyles, and fashion are spot on for 1988. It's a time capsule!

R214

There's more -

CAROL: "Boys, Mike is not your father. Alice was an alcoholic and LSD whore back in the day. She is your mother but we don't know who your fathers are. Mike, a rich architect, took her in and adopted you three.

I also was a whore. I slipped up and got pregnant three times, but I did not want to be a single mother. Mike agreed to marry me as his beard. And although we were certainly young enough to have more kids, no one ever questioned our marriage since we each had "3 kids of our own." We never even fucked!" He fucked men on the side and so did I. It was a win win for all of us.

CINDY: "Well Damn! You mean to tell me that all this time me and Dad coulda been having sleepovers in my room and we coulda been braiding each other's hair and talking and giggling about boys together?"

CAROL: "Oh kids don't be too upset about all this, that is just how these things were handled at that time."

Greg’s wife is a cunt, Marcia’s husband is worthless and all Jan needed was 60 seconds of marriage counseling and sex advice from her mom.

Marcia’s hubby wasn’t worthless. They lived in a nice place. She was worthless. She didn’t work. He paid for everything and provided for her.

[quote] you will find many Marcia’s

Marcia’s what though?

Carol: Mike. I have something important to tell you.

Mike: You're not pregnant?

Carol: I said important, not ridiculous.

-edited for TV- You’re more likely to get Sam pregnant than me!!!

Wally wasn't particularly kind, though. Awkward, yes.

He was good to Marcia. That’s what she cared about.

Not one mention of Greg's wife being The New Gidget at the time?

The Brady's meet the Bundy's at the 1989 Emmys. Katey and Ed look uncomfortable with the forced humor.

Just around this time 33 years ago, Phillip was porking my daughter. I hope your Christmas memories are filled with warmth and love, just like my daughter's vagina. Happy Holiday!

Mrs. Brady seemed too excited to tell Phillip to fuck his wife

R227 Mrs Brady hadn’t been fucked since her first husband died. She knew the pain of a lonely vag and wanted more for Jan

Ooof R195. If you asked anyone who the youngest in that pic is, they’d probably get it wrong. Time has NOT been kind to Bobby and Thindy

Barry’s video…

Chris’ video…

R229 Considering they are all in their 60s now, they look pretty good. But yes, Marcia and Peter are always gonna be the hottest!

Robert Reed was gay, Mike Brady was not. RR was also good enough of an actor and had enough natural chemistry with FH's Carol that they were actually one of the first sitcom couples you could actually believe were fucking each other. I grew up loving and watching classic sitcoms. Remember, those cheap vintage tv VHS and DVDs? I probably have a couple thousand of those. There were some like June and Ward Cleaver you could imagine being once a weekers. Rob and Laura Petrie were like 4 out of 7 nights. Ann-Marie and Donald were unmarried fucking all across NYC. And, I fully buy Mike and Carol, at least in the first couple seasons, as honeymooning newlyweds fucking every night.

Also, did the producers have a contract with a nightgown company? Because Carol had the most beautiful collection I've ever seen and I doubt she wore one more than once.

Whatever chemistry they had in the series (I agree they had it then) was long gone by the movie. A Very Brady Mike and Carol were a widow and her GBF living together for company. Occasionally she watches him with rent boys.

Why did only some of them change from the clothes they wore at the airport to what they had on decorating? It's like one wardrobe person thought the scenes were on the same day and one didn't. I was happy though to see Marcia change out of her dentist bib wintergreen ensemble.

FOLLOW ME IN MERRY MEASURE!

I hope Mike by the 80s had a lovely pied-a-terre in West Hollywood where he keep his muscly young hot lovers and spent the night with them anytime to could convincingly pull the wool over Carol’s eyes that he had a big project he needed to finish at the office.

Mr. Roberts seemed like a frustrated closet queen, too.

I'm sure Mike thanked Leonard Prescott for giving Wally a job by giving him a job as well.

Was Reed a top or bottom?

Say what you want about him but Robert Reed was seriously handsome, until he went all permed and fabulous

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R213 - your basically correct about the Wally character. He and Philip were introduced together on “The Brady Brides” with the conceit of them being complete opposites - goof-ball / tight-ass - who marry sisters and end up all living together Odd Couple style. Their personalities were designed to create plot conflicts. The other spouses that appear in the Christmas movie are a bit more random and generic.

Were the Brady characters ever seen in character after 1990?

If so, was Marcia's insta-alcoholism retconned out? That was the most ridiculous part of the series.

R244 no. Reed died two years after The Bradys. I’m sure there would’ve been other reunions had he lived. The Brady movies then started in 1995.

Marcia being a drunk was worse than Bobby becoming a cripple?

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Leah Ayres acting drunk was worse than Mike Lookinland's acting being a paraplegic.

Lew Ayres would have made a good Grandpa Brady.

Leah Ayres as Drunk Marcia made Martha Quinn seem Emmy Award-level acting.

Martha Qanon was annoying as fuck as the ultra perky Tracy.

^Quinn

Am I the only one who liked Leah as Marcia?

R254 Yes.

I watched this the other night. It was so bad. The script was written as if the kids had not aged at all since the original series. I will never watch this crap again.

R240 sadly, if he got AIDS, he had to have been a bottom, right?

R241 I agree.

In Mo's book, she said Jerry Houser took her to church and helped her to clean up her act.

R258 That makes sense. Jerry Houser played a loser in the movie, but everything I have read about him makes him seem like a decent guy.

He sounds like a great guy.

Why didn't Carol just heal Drunk Marcia's faux alcoholism with a hymn?

After all, the power of her voice kept a building from crushing Mike in 1988.

She didn't have time. Her alcoholism only lasted 43 minutes.

[quote]Lew Ayres would have made a good Grandpa Brady.

No, the only true Grandpa Brady is Robert Reed.

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How many trips did it take to get all of them to the construction site?

[quote]How many trips did it take to get all of them to the construction site?

Who cares? That's why we had a maid

So if Mike and Carol didn't have the big family Christmas, Jan and Bobby would've spent Christmas alone? That's not very Bradylike.

He really does seem like a genuinely nice guy.

Jerry owns a Radio Advertising & Production company and voice-over school in Hollywood.

(from his FB page)

[quote] Jerry began his career starring in the Warner Brothers film “Summer of ’42.” From there he went on to co-star with Paul Newman in the hockey classic Slap Shot and then on to TV where he married Marcia Brady when “The Brady Girls Got Married” and then enjoyed "A Very Brady Christmas." From acting he transitioned to voice over work and has enjoyed years of success as one of Hollywood’s top voice over talents. Throughout it all he developed and honed his keen interest and skill in advertising and radio production. He created Bastille Productions a number of years ago and with the support of his talented team of writers and actors, Jerry has found himself more and more in demand. He still believes in the power of radio and caters to businesses that are not in a position to handle the cost of a large and impersonal Ad Agency

And the school:

He matured nicely.

So did all the Brady children not live in LA?

Obviously, if Alice had to pick them up at the airport and Peter lived in the desert.

In the Christmas movie they were scattered all over but that was eventually changed in The Brady's which featured Stanley Zbornack.

I remember hearing Jerry Houser’s voice in Best Buy all the time in the 90s/early 2000s. I don’t know if he did TV or radio commercials but he was their in house announcer

Did Alice resent those years of retrieving crusty, cum-soaked white undershorts from all over the house, and struggling to bleach and launder them back to some semblance of cleanliness?

Jerry did the promos for Rudolph for several years.

R274, he was the voice of CBS for a while.

Must have been lucrative.

In case this thread reaches 600, it's The Bradys if you're referring to the 1990 show, not the The Brady's.

....

Why was Cousin Oliver never invited back?

R281 he's with Tiger

And Fluffy.

All About Tiger(s)....at 8:00

Why did Susan Olson not do the movie?

So Eve Plumb skipped the variety show, what about Marcia? Was there a sub Marcia on some incarnation too?

Did Carol and Alice ever swap vibrators? Lord knows neither one was getting the peen from Mike or Sam.

[quote] Am I the only one who liked Leah as Marcia?

Certainly not! She was the best to play that role.

R285 One OG Brady girl was missing in three of them, Jan on the variety series, Cindy in this movie, and Marcia on The Bradys. The boys and adults appeared in all versions.

R281 Because Cousin Oliver grew up to look like a perv.

He aint cute and cuddly anymore.

He was always just a plot device... and not a good one. I'm sure they're hoping the audience forgot about him.

The Brady Girls Get Married was the only iteration that had the entire original cast. Too bad that doesn't make it watchable.

[quote] Why did Susan Olson not do the movie?

Maybe because after 50 fucking years, people still don’t spell her name right?

[quote] Why did Susan Olson not do the movie?

The official reason is she was on her honeymoon. There has been much speculation she didn't return because of money. Maureen was offered way more because she was the most popular Brady kid and Susan was offered peanuts and thought all the kids should've been paid the same. I always found the honeymoon reason to be BS. She would be gone at most what, 2 weeks? They could've easily filmed around that. There are plenty of scenes she's not in.

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I saw an interview that said something different. Susan said, she declined the role because of her honeymoon. All three were paid the same, so then the producers split her money between Eve and Maureen and the fake Cindy got paid a lot less. Then Susan recanted and said she could do it, but since the money was already allocated, that meant that Susan would have to take a lesser salary, so she declined.

[quote] Maureen was offered way more because she was the most popular Brady kid

Marcia, Marci—shit, it’s been done.

R285 Movies have huge budgets. If it was a matter of money, they could have worked it out.

As hard as it is for fans to accept, sometimes people wanna move on or just don't want to do something at a particular time. Fans may be obsessed with this old show, but remember, this was just a job for them.

The character of Cindy isn't that important. However, I don't think the movie would have been successful if any of the others were missing. Jennifer Runyon looked hot and did a find job in the movie. Susan Olsen wasn't missed.

[quote]Susan Olsen wasn't missed.

Of course she was. She was the focus of the only Brady Bunch Christmas episode. If she had been there it would've been the #1 TV movie instead of just placing.

Eve was barely in the Christmas Brady Bunch

She was in "The Christmas Brady Bunch" as much as everyone else. I'm sure she had more lines than Maureen.

Ummm most people prefer fake Cindy.

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No she wasn't. Cindy was the most, then Greg, then Marcia, then the boys then Jan

How did you come to that conclusion?

I wonder if Davis objected to wearing that uniform again.

It was so reductive.

R302 Davis had that pitiful storyline and the "sobbing" scenes. The uniform was the least of her issues.

R303 I felt sorry for Davis. She was the most annoying in this episode, which says a lot considering the high annoyance level of Greg Brady's wife. Alice's "humor" was always corny, but this was just embarrassing... even for her.

I loved Alice

I loved Alice too, just not in this movie. They did her dirty!

Alice was always used as goofy comic relief. This was no different than the OG show or Brides movie.

R307 yes she is goofy and we love her for that, but in this movie she just looked pathetic - not funny. She was hammy and kinda begging for laughs in situations that just were not funny. It was sad.

Nothing says goofy comedy like being cheated on /s

It’s The Brady Bunch. Not Shakespeare. You know what you’re getting.

Alice was given the comic schtick, because originally she was the only sitcom veteran on the show. R.R.'s previous tv show was heavy drama. FH was mainly known for stage musicals. Ann B Davis had been on The Bob Cummings Show, which was still a popular show in syndication at the time of the original series. I'm sure that's why she got to be in the middle of the grid with everyone looking at her and a special "And, Ann B. Davis as Alice" credit. Even after the Brady Bunch she remained the only cast member to have had a non Brady hit/classic show. In the Brady Christmas film they kept her firmly in her schtick, it was very much like Lucy in Life With Lucy, it was a bit outside of contemporary by that point.

Jennifer Runyon and Chris Knight dated when they played Sally and Leigh Hobson on Another World. No doubt he put in a good word for her, and the show wanted a hotter Cindy.

[quote] No doubt he put in a good word for her,

No doubt he put a good wood into her,

FIFY.

Davis won 2 Emmys for The Bob Cummings Show/Love that Bob.

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They were humiliating, she won for playing a whore, a man chasing loser.

R314 Jane Hathaway and Alice enjoyed munching the carpet in real life right? I don't think Alice ever admitted it but Miss Hathaway sure did.

Ugly lesbians go to Hollywood for the same reason out of shape queens go to the gym - ogle at the beauty!

Jan didn't congratulate Valerie after the proposal. She lets her walk past without saying anything.

R317 she was in a rush to get fucked again.

DL can understand!

I think Phillip says something about being starving. I think they just wanted dinner.

R319 Starving for some PLUMB PUSSY!

Everyone hates on Cousin Oliver/Robie Rist, but he did appear on The Brady Bunch "Who Wants to Be A Millionarie"....and they all seemed very happy that he was there! They don't blame him for the lameness that was Cousin Oliver.

Robbie Rist seems pretty cool, unlike Susan Olsen.

There should be a A Very Brady Christmas 2 with Cousin Oliver as a Cousin Eddie type.

R323

He'd be more like Cousin It!

[quote]hey don't blame him for the lameness that was Cousin Oliver.

Oliver was only in six episodes and he was only featured in the first, when he was introduced. He was barely in the Peter look-a-like episode, the pool table episode and the last episode. The other two episodes he played a sidekick to Cindy (Shirley Temple) and Bobby (Mike and the FBI).

Most of the scripts from the last season were really lame so you can't blame Oliver. The last season the Brady Bunch was only renewed for half a season and then they were picked up for the remainder, which is probably why the scripts were not so great.

Why would they blame a small child for the lame show? I swear I feel like this site is filled with retards now.

R326 it's an established trope. A show, usually dying, adds some random kid to jazz things up. Usually, the kid ends up hated by the audience

Yes, there is no need to add a kid to a show it rarely works. Raven-Symone was a revelation, not the standard.

It was really unnecessary on TBB. They had six kids already. Oliver was the same age as Bobby and Cindy so they can’t say they wanted a younger cute kid when all the others outgrew that.

Nah he was definitely younger than Bobby and Cindy. Rist was born in 1964 so he would have been around ten at the time he was on Brady Bunch. He’s three years younger than Susan Olsen (born 1961) and four years younger than Mike Lookinland (born 1960.) The problem was that the show had kept Bobby and Cindy behaving younger than they actually were and Cousin Oliver was one of those mini-adult child characters so he seemed more of their peer than he was.

He was only added at the last 6 episodes, barely a blip.

I’m surprised Carol didn’t have twins, a boy and a girl, that kept the numbers even and would magically be 5 yrs old the next season.

That surprised me, too, R331. Seems an obvious solution.

Adding kids is seen as the kiss of death of a show.

R332 no respect for Chucky, where you met your husband? RUUUDE.

The unusual/rare thing about that shitshow was that they actually used the same kids from birth to the shows end. The show just refused to die.

Cindy was wearing a breast wrap to keep her "crunchies" in. And Mike Lookinland kept getting Maureen and Florence pregnant by the end.

That is why Robert "Abortion is murder" Reed, threw tantrums.

[quote]Seems an obvious solution.

With a gay husband?!

R330 thanks. I thought he was close or the age of Mike and Susan. My point being, there was no need for this kid when Bobby could’ve done all that Oliver did.

The problem producers faced in the final season was that the kids looked drastically different than when the show started. That is what happens when you cast a show with kids - they start to grow up. The show had to change, but how?

Producers probably didn't think the show would last as long as it did and so, apparently didn't plan for the kids growing up when they locked the audience into its formula of a blended family of 6 kids, two parents and a maid. They had us all singing the theme song and showed it to us every week with the trademark 9 squares in the intro. That was the show.

Producers betrayed the audience by adding "Cousin Oliver." The audience was like WTF? We all knew why they did it. The cutesy factor was over. Greg and Marcia looked like adults and little lisping Cindy had sprouted titties! They tried to maintain the cutesiness by adding a new character.

Oliver was a cute kid and he did his job, but unfortunately he represented a drastic change to the show's formula that producers just tried to slide past viewers with no real explanation.

"Carol's nephew, is left to live with the Bradys after his parents – Carol's brother, Jack, an archeologist, and his wife, Pauline, are traveling to a dig in South America. He is left with them to allow him to continue at school."

It was bullshit! Viewers saw it for what it was and rejected it.

They should have just wrote scripts for the older kids. This too would have represented a change and was risky, but it was really their only option since they locked the audience into a very specific show concept. But alas, Hollywood is lazy so they went the lame route of just adding a "cousin." It didn't work. TV audiences are dumb, but they apparently not THAT dumb.

R337, the whole reason they brought him on was because Mike and Susan were no longer "adorable." They both had braces and were entering their awkward phase.

[quote] That is what happens when you cast a show with kids - they start to grow up.

That’s not a given.

[quote] They should have just wrote

Written.

[quote] the whole reason they brought him on was because Mike and Susan were no longer "adorable."

I'm sure that was the reasoning, but Robbie Rist wasn't even slightly adorable. It was just a bad decision all around.

You all aren't listening. The 5th season the Brady Bunch was only renewed for half a season and it was expected that would be it

So no one was interested in making great scripts for it. Then suddenly it was picked up for a full year and they used some unused script and rewrote them. Oliver was only featured in ONE episode and barely in three others. He was a sidekick to Cindy and Bobby. So viewers at the time didn't care. Perhaps in reruns they cared but not at the time of the original air dates.

Schwartz had said that if the Brady Bunch had been picked up for a sixth year Robert Reed would've been written out somehow.

He never said how, but making Carol divorce Mike would put her in the awkward position of having Peter and Bobby with her without Mike, so he would've had to been killed off.

Bringing another child wasn't unheard of. My Three Sons did it, Donna Reed did it.

The quality of the scripts was really not the best the last year and if you look you can see how in five years how drastically the show changed. Most noticeable was Carol who was utterly subdued in season one and was somewhat kooky by the last season.

Link R343? I've never heard of the fifth season initially being picked up as a half season.

Oliver literally got the last line/word in the whole series. Can you guess what it was? it was very unBrady like.

R335 what?

It has three letters in it.

R345 Did Oliver say "FUCK?"

Oh wait, that's 4 letters.

He must have said "ASS?"

I think your mom has a difficult time discussing sex. Or something like it.

I don't know what the last word of the episode was, but Mike Reed was not in it because he was a complete pain in the ass. What a way to end the run of his top rated TV show. ☹️ [See Below]

Oliver says they should turn Greg's room into a guest room, when asked who will be the guest, he says "Me, Cousin Oliver"

[quote]Everyone hates on Cousin Oliver/Robie Rist, but he did appear on The Brady Bunch "Who Wants to Be A Millionarie"....and they all seemed very happy that he was there! They don't blame him for the lameness that was Cousin Oliver.

When they did the BB "Weakest Link," he was the first one who was voted off.

The last episode has a very poor edit in it. In the filmed episode at the end, Marcia and Peter ask Greg what college he's going to? Greg smiles and says "Oh no you don't, you two will just have to wait and see who gets my room." Then the reply from Oliver comes about r351

That doesn't make sense until you realize there was a subplot edited out. Marcia and Peter make a bet regarding which college Greg will go to. The winner gets the attic. But since they edited that out, the end makes no sense as everyone would assume Marcia gets the attic as the next oldest.

[quote] Oliver literally got the last line/word in the whole series. Can you guess what it was? it was very unBrady like.

[quote] It has three letters in it.

"DIE!!!"

Mo voted Rist off TWL with an evil gleam in her eye.

Sex was the last word and the orange bunnies were all into it.

R355 Mo did that for the fans! LOL

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Then she said Robbie Rist and her made out in Tiger's doghouse

Ooh, kinky!

Marcia was a bitch. Remember when she liked Harvey "Bugs" Klinger?

I felt bad for Harvey here.

She really worked so hard to get him, fool him, string him along and then dumps him

When next we see Marcia as if he was yesterday’s news.

And you know a kid like that will never find another girl. For ‘reasons’ Marcia liked him and then when she had him the fun was over.

We found out what ever happened to her first date Alan. Also dumped unceremoniously.

Eve and Maureen at their peak hotness

She also pretended to have aspirations to be a frontier scout just to prove a point and then promptly dumped them after being accepted. Peter wore a dress for nothing.

[quote]Peter wore a dress for nothing.

Oh it wasn't exactly for "NOTHING."

What do you mean?

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If you have to ask it no longer matters.

Nice retconning on the "assumption" Mike's wife died giving birth to Bobby. She died whike in the hospital-the nanny came to Mrs. Brady's bedside, there was a cutaway and then Mrs.Brady went sailing out the window, smashing throught the roof of an ambulance below. Mike was work ing as the ambassador to the Court of Saint Jmaes at the time.

You got the last line from Jim Ignatowski.

Florence, Ann and Barry were the only three to appear in every Brady Bunch episode.

In season one to save money, each child did not appear in one episode, when it was Barry's turn not to appear they changed the policy.

Robert Reed missed the last episode and the episode where the children give Alice the cold shoulder and she quits.

The kids were so mean to Alice. They tried to scare the hell out of her once.

[quote] You all aren't listening. The 5th season the Brady Bunch was only renewed for half a season

According to Barry Williams’ book the show was only ever given 13 episode orders and they never knew if they would be continuing. It was never a hit show during its original run and only became a pop culture phenomenon due to endless repeats in syndication. So you’re not wrong but it’s not something that was different than any other season

DL'ers should be given a Bachelor's degree in Media Studies for their extensive knowledge of Brady Bunch minutiae.

I loved those office phones Carol and Greg used in the movie. They were SO 80s.

Depression is real and they just glossed over Alice's like she didn't just grieve a loss.

Um, Carol and Mike said she could stay with them for a few days and be around a support system. Then she got an added bonus to see the kids again. She mentioned they were sympathetic to her situation after she picked them all up at the airport when she told them all what was going on. We just didn't see it.

[quote]In season one to save money, each child did not appear in one episode,

Was this really a huge savings? In 1969, a child actor was likely making something like $350-$400 an episode. If five of the six child actors missed a single episode each, that was a total savings of about $2,000. Was the show's budget that tight?

And, unbelievably, there will be someone on DL who knows what the budget for the first season was and whether it was that tight or not.

I thought Maureen did every episode. Along with Eve and Susan. I do recall there were a couple episodes missing Chris and Mike.

r377 Then you thought wrong..

Marcia and Bobby were not in the episode where Cindy and Carol go to the hospital for their tonsils (actually a season two episode not season one episode)

Jan was not in the Buddy Hinton episode and Peter was not in the tattletale episode. Cindy was not in the episode where Greg gets a job with Mike and loses his blueprints (again these are second season episodes)

[quote] Depression is real and they just glossed over Alice's like she didn't just grieve a loss.

There was a deleted scene where Mike and Carol try to have Kay come over and scissor with Alice.

R379 Marcia and Jan were feeding Cindy soup to get her ready for the boat trip in the hopes of not having her tonsils out, so if you accused me of being wrong you’re wrong.

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You are correct, Marcia was missing from the episode where Bobby sprains his ankle and is afraid of heights. It's especially notable in the trampoline segment. It’s hard to imagine her not being interested in such a fun contraption being in the backyard.

[quote] the episode where Greg gets a job with Mike and loses his blueprints

I wonder if he ever spanked Greg for that.

Mmmmmmm.

He did. In Sam's Meat Locker.

This thread inspired me to turn on the last-season episode where they go to the amusement park in Cincinnati and Mike loses his blueprints. I swear more than half the episode is just shots of the cast members on rides and aerial footage of the park.

If they all stayed through New Year's, Mike and Carol must have dropped 3k on food.

r386

That was pretty much an infomercial for the park. I believe there was some connection by the company that ran the park and that produced the Brady Bunch. The Partridge Family had also had an episode/infomercial the year before.

R387 They could afford it. The Brady's never had money issues. It was well established that Mike had plenty of money!

Step By Step did the same thing Magic Mountain. Wasn't it bad enough they copied The Brady Bunch premise?

Both Robert Reed and Susan Olsen were missing from the roller coaster as they were afraid to ride it

And the cast would have been injured had they not sent the camera on a ride by itself. It came back without the camera. I’m not sure who demanded they do that first.

[quote] Both Robert Reed and Susan Olsen were missing from the roller coaster as they were afraid to ride it

Robert Reed wasn't afraid to ride anything.

r392

I don't buy that as the Partridge Family did the same exact thing the previous year so they would've known what to expect.

R394

I had no reason to make it up.

r395

That in of itself is a reason

Eve Plumb’s heaving teenage bosoms frightened me as she ran through the park. 😳

At least Carol didn't require Alice to wear her maid's uniform when they went to King's Island.

Ann B. Davis could really run!

r399

No, she only ran once and they looped it.

Bobby and Cindy basically gorged themselves on junk food. I guess by that point Carol and Mike didn't give a shit and just let them fend for themselves.

r401

You miss the point, it was basically an infomercial for the park. The park was showing the variety of food they have. Just like when Jan notices she lost the poster she says "Luckily they're not expensive." Another plug for the park.

They should do a Very Brady New Year's.

That makes sense R402. I retract my comment about Carol and Mike's bad parenting. ;)

Did Betty White ever appear on a Brady show?

[quote]Did Betty White ever appear on a Brady show?

No but on her talk show in the 50s she hired Frank DeVol who wrote the music for the Brady Bunch Theme. His work included “Family Affair,” “Gidget,” and “My Three Sons.” He was also on Fernwood Tonight as the bandleader.

R392 According to the article R395 posted Robert Reed was the one that noticed the camera wasn't secure, so they did the test. Thankfully they did or it would've been a disaster.

R397 It just dawned on me why Barry Williams had such a large teen girl following. Almost every episode Greg is trying to get some pussy.

R397 That running music is annoying AF.

As much as I can't stand her, I would've liked for Susan Olsen to be in A Very Brady Christmas to have all the original cast. Yeah, they're all in The Brady Girls Get Married, but there's very little interaction with the whole family in that one.

If Robert Reed had gone back to looking normal it would've made the movie good

R411 Robert Reed was hot throughout the entire run of the BB. His relationship with Florence was believable enough too.

By AVBC he should have been in hot Zaddy status but for some reason he did not evolve. The Mojo was gone!

[quote]Robert Reed was hot throughout the entire run of the BB.

No, he was not. He was seriously handsome the first two years and still handsome in the third, but after Hawaii when he went all "fab-U-lus" he was no longer hot but a living joke.

R413 Are you crazy?

I found Mike Brady to be pretty hot in the Hawaii episode. You didn't like Afro Mike Brady?

That was how they wore their hair at the time. He had a great body and was still very handsome.

He was in early Zaddy stage!

R413 Robert Reed was hot with a beard or clean shaven. The porn stache was not appealing but I don't think he ever had that on the series.

I remember him as always being clean shaven on the original Brady Bunch show. I agree that in the spin offs he had some far less appealing looks, but I am only talking about The Brady Bunch.

Barry and Chris also got perms unfortunately.

Why wasn't Susan Olsen in this?

Greg's bitch wife was only concerned with herself.

I can't believe they made Cindy sit at the kids' table.

[quote] Eve Plumb plays cunt flawlessly.

Or, as the kids would say, "serving cunt."

[quote] Well, that excuses nothing. This one spells it "Marcia," which is the original spelling for the name anyway going back to ancient Rome.

Moreover, when they have the episode in the fourth season with the high school talent show, "The Show Must Go on??", Mrs. Tuttle (Barbara Morrison) always pronounces Marcia's name "MAR-see-ah," which would not have happened had her name been spelled "Marsha."

r414

DADDY!

[quote] The kids were so mean to Alice. They tried to scare the hell out of her once.

To be fair, it was because she arrogantly claimed not to be afraid of anything supernatural. When Greg mentioned "vampires?" she said, "They gave me a pain in the neck!"

That then prompted Marcia to ask "What about werewolves?"--although, as Christine Taylor once brilliantly noted, thanks to Maureen McCormack's fancy elocution training (which also regularly prompted her to pronounce "school" on the show as "skyül") , the question came out as, "What about WURR-wolves?"

I would love to have drinks with Mrs. Crane. She seemed like a no nonsense gal who'd be a hoot to talk trash with. Who the hell else would accuse Carol Brady of writing a bad check?

Why do Bobby a paraplegal?

English, please.

A very Christmas bump

Time for annual festive watch to enjoy Peter’s nightgown and Carol’s cinched weight

A very Christmas bump

Time for the annual festive watch to enjoy Peter’s nightshirt and Carol’s cinched waist

A Christmas bump

Here for Peter’s nightshirt and Carol’s cinched waist

R417 because she’s a fucking drunk who couldn’t get her shit together to stay sober during the shoot.