Disney Star Wars Hotel FAIL

Absurd

Disney doesn't listen to fans.

He reacts to the embarrassing trailer.

Guys goofing on the trailer.

We are speaking of heterosexuals, Disney, and a "Star Wars Hotel"?

I suppose it's interesting the way a Dr. Phil episode is briefly interesting, but beyond that it's beneath both discussion and contempt. I suppose there are gay and lesbian people who might want to stay at a "Star Wars Hotel," but I doubt we travel in the same circles.

R5 video from 1:50:00.

My stay in the Jabba the Hut Hut was terrible.

$4800 for two people. That's ridiculous.

Welcome video just released.

Galaxy's Edge was weirdly boring. It was like a mall, with two rides, one of which was lame, and the other required a 3-hour wait.

Waaaaahhh!

So why is it failing? Why are the fans upset? I can't click on the links.

R13, because they're asking $4800/2 guests and it looks like shit. YouTube has tons of stories about it. Everyone's goofing on it. Disney even pulled an elaborate preview video (with a cute twink actor from ABC) because everyone was goofing on it. It's still on YouTube, however, in videos where people are goofing on it.

Disney is evil corporation. They have no heart anymore.. greedy fucks

So, it’s never going to look EXACTLY like a movie set because of handicapped access, fire and code laws, etc.

I think they would’ve been better served creating a theater of sorts that people could walk through, or a student camp but yeah, $4800 is like a trip to Columbia and hiring two really hot male escorts!

Bragged-about concept vs. shitty reality

LOL!

They think consumers are idiots.

In the OP's video... who's the cute twink mini-gay "ABC Guy"?

Don't even try to tell me he's straight. He needs to do a stint on "Fun-Size Boys".

R20, the OP video kid is Brayden. He's not the ABC guy: he's a Disney news YouTuber.

The ABC actor is in the video that the YouTuber is reacting to at R14.

Eldergays on Datalounge are not the audience for Disney's Star Wars garbage. This will not be a failure since nothing with the "Star Wars" brand is ever a failure. People will pay lots of money for Star Wars and always will, regardless of breathless YouTubers searching for clicks.

R22, Disney's sequel trilogy failed.

It would be tough to justify such a pricey vacation during times like this. They should have just made another themed hotel, and not turned it into an “adventure”.

Star Wars legacy was destroyed by Disney

I wonder what Disney will buy next, and then destroy.

SHOW ME THE ORIGINAL, CRINGEY VIDEO.

The O.C.D. Aspie OP spamming reaction videos is WORTHLESS.

R27, they removed it. It's gone. R4 shows all of it.

R27.

Disney keeps assuming that all Star Wars fans will spend any amount of money on anything Star Wars-related, no matter how shitty. The original Galaxy's Edge concept was much more immersive and had extra rides, a lot of strolling actors playing out cool scenes, etc. Disney nixed all of it and cranked up the shopping aspect to wring more money out of guests. This hotel is another money grab which will flounder once the most obsessed fans have paid their 6 grand for a subpar experience.

Just one more in a string of disastrous decisions by Disney.

From yesterday.

Disney will milk the wealthy for a few days. In 5-10 years, the price will fall dramatically

The last time we went we ate at all their so-called deluxe restaurants. That French place upstairs was the worst restaurant experience of my life. The waiter was the rudest cunt ever. $500 to eat crap and be ignored.

Commenters on the YouTube videos are predicting that Disney will drop the failed LARP experience within a year or two, and it will just be a Star Wars-themed hotel.

I hope a bunch of rich nerds go there and get COVID.

I guess it's trying to mimic a cruise--everything is included, you're staying inside Disney World, and it feels like you're rushing through space. Thus, the wild price.

I'm sure Disney will start hiring celebrities to go on the first experience and rave about it on social media.

This was a tremendously stupid concept, anyone who has paid even passing attention to resort development in Las Vegas was aware that lavish theming has been phased out of all resorts there. (ResortsWorld which just opened dropped the planned Chinese pagoda theming for modern designs with some Oriental embellishments). Most people now just want chic surroundings that look good on Instagram.

The world of Star Wars was purposely designed to look unpleasant as possible, along with Alien they created the aesthetic of the “rusty future” so iconic of the 70s. People don’t want to go on vacation on a warship. A modern luxury resort with lush grounds designed to look like alien terrain and Star Wars embellishments in the design would have been a better proposition.

You can't live in a movie, movies are fantasies, hotels are housekeepers, noise, tourists and crappy food.

Oh, and r22, "Eldergays on Datalounge are not the audience for Disney's Star Wars garbage."

This "Eldergay" was 17 when the first "Stars Wars" came out, so don't you tell me... Now get off my lawn before I call the cops

Disney Plus is also garbage.

Is there a world in which a “Star Wars hotel” isn’t inherently cringe? It sounds to me more like the internets has decided it hates this, and that is that.

But seriously, what constitutes a “good” Star Wars hotel experience?

The only thing I find more tiresome than the Disney Gays who obsess over this stuff are the anti-Disney Trolls who post two hour videos detailing everything wrong with a five minute promotional video and why it portends a level of disaster unseen since Hiroshima.

Monsieur Paul R34? Definitely not the best.

Anti Disney trolls start out as vloggers who love Disney and theme parks and they puke and shit pixie dust. The problem is for the last number of years those in charge have trashed the brand and everything the brand can absorb while making obscene amounts of money. The late 20th Century brand of American capitalism which continues stronger than ever. Disney and Star Wars fans feel betrayed and are now unleashing their disdain and mockery on the suits and the skirts. When you feel wronged concerning something you feel passionate about you can bitch endlessly without a problem.

The Disney PR machine is now attacking some of the vloggers calling one guy in particular an idiot for getting something very wrong. It turns out he was right. Disney has simply promoted all the young and stupid arrogant interns while getting rid of the people who had experience and made a good salary.

[quote]This will not be a failure since nothing with the "Star Wars" brand is ever a failure.

Thanken yousa so mui.

From today.

Brayden the cute young thing in the OP's post was just a few years ago Disney's biggest cheerleader. Gushing over everything they did. Now he tears into the CEO whenever he has the chance. And of course Bob Chapek gives him frequent opportunities.

R35 The problem with that is it's not a good hotel as built. The rooms are small, there's no pool, etc. They can get away with that with the LARP thing because the day is so planned that the guests spend basically no time in their rooms. But to operate as a normal hotel will require hugely expensive retrofitting.

As more of a Star Trek guy, I'm with the people saying the aesthetic isn't Star Wars. Because it looks more like Star Trek than the current incarnations. That ship looks like it belongs to 1990s Trek.

The price is outrageous. You can take an actual 4 day Disney Cruise for a fraction of that amount.

I was hoping this would work, because I wanted Paramount to copy it for Trek.

Too bad, R49. It almost happened years ago. See link.

R50 I know. Still bummed.

This was all Bob Chapek's idea, you know.

Brayden has a nice voice and had interesting things to say unlike that incredibly cringey trailer.

I wonder if that other Bob is still after the presidency. Time is running out.

It doesn't help that Disney is refusing to put anything from the original trilogy into this or Galaxy's Edge

Jesus. How can you fuck up something like that? Fans are the ones willing to pay such high prices IF you give them an actual Star Wars experience. You'd think they would pay for something that doesn't LOOK like Star Wars? That trailer should've been full of Star Wars memorabilia, with Chewbacca as the tour guide, subtitled, of course.

It's like these guys haven't even seen Westworld. That's how you do an immersed vacation experience.

Cheap bastards.

This reminds me of when i stayed at the Hilton in Vegas. It was Star Trek themed and i was terrified of the Klingons lol

The Star Trek casino at the LVH didn’t even last very long did it?

Actually, it did, R58. 10 years. 1998 -2008.

Brady the OP's video host seems awfully chipper.

It looks so cheap, it's like they want to make a profit with the first booking.

Brayden looks nice in a suit.

I hate to jump on the bandwagon of, "Haha, Disney fails!" But in this case, they've fallen flat on their face. I've worked in hospitality for over 20 years, and I followed this project as soon as it was announced.

Besides not being a 'Star Wars' fan, I didn't grasp the concept of the insanely expensive, immersive experience (the itinerary to follow, no windows in the rooms, etc.). This could've been done so much better, and at a much cheaper price point for the guests. As someone said above, a traditional hotel with a pool, etc. Just throw in a Jabba statue, Baby Yoda gnomes, some light sabers, etc. Who wants to be stuck in a windowless building for x3 days for $6K?

^ Give it a year and they'll have special 3-day packages starting at $299

Too much money.

[quote] As someone said above, a traditional hotel with a pool, etc. Just throw in a Jabba statue, Baby Yoda gnomes, some light sabers, etc.

Yup. It could have been just fine that way. This is a disaster, however.

WTF is this shit? CRT screens straight out of 1980? The TV show Star Trek from the 60s had a better bridge

Oh, and that is one short little fellow there

Here's the bridge from the original Star Trek, way cooler from almost 60 years ago

The windowless rooms aren’t a problem because you do still get “a view” but if it was me I would’ve built different outdoor areas, exclusive to the cruise guests, and each day say oh we are visiting planet whatever. So it isn’t just being stuck inside the “ship” except for you trip to Disney Studios.

[quote]Oh, and that is one short little fellow there

That's the youngest son on The Goldbergs, he looks like he is seven or eight but is really 35.

How is no windows. In bedrooms legal? Isn’t that a fire hazard?

Interesting theory I've seen, that the reason it all looks so generic scifi rather than obviously Star Wars is so they can easily start offering up LARP 'cruises' based on other space-themed IP, like Guardian of the Galaxy, etc.

It will be hilarious if some guy out in Baker, CA manages to do it better than Disney. This article is from 2015 but construction is ongoing.

The original concept artof the rooms is very good. They seem to have shrunk them 50%.

And why when you look out the winds are you looking at obvious illustrations?

IMDB says Braydon is 5'9? I don't think so.

^sorry, not Brayden but the twink touring with the tall woman in vid.

Does the price include a young Mark Hamil lookalike ?

The problem with this isn't the price. It's that the details look cheap and the marketing rollout is a disaster.

There are already many experiences at Disney parks that are even more expensive. There are some VIP tours that are $12,000/day, lots of hotel rooms in the $1,200-$4,000/night range, and a $1,250/person dinner at Disneyland, to name a few. Even a basic VIP tour costs $4,000+ per day. Some of the hotel rooms (not a suite; just a room) are more than $1,000/night. Even the "value" resorts are charging hundreds of dollars per night.

If Galactic Starcruiser fails; don't expect them to offer huge discounts. They'll just close it. I could see them possibly offering special rates for Disney Vacation Club owners and/or Club 33 members.

People who spend $5000 a night at the Grand Floridian merely want a nice place to sleep when they come back from the parks. No one has ever committed this kind of money to a cosplay weekend where you are held hostage inside a building that looks like it was assembled from old parts of Epcot Center.

People spend huge amounts of money on Disney experiences so they can flex on social media. If the buzz is that this place is a lame rip-off, visitors get no bragging rights. That's what will kill the Star Wars hotel quicker than anything.

Getting worse.

Can you just tell us what’s in the video so I don’t have to watch it? Jeez.

What r82 said. Why would anyone think that posters here want to watch two dozen youtube videos to learn what's wrong with a hotel at Disney World? Either tell us what the deal is, link to an actual story, or fuck off.

Tangentially does anyone know why Disney’s Grand Californian is literally twice as expensive as comparable resorts literally down the street in Anaheim?

Was the blue alien captain designed on purpose to look like Kathleen Kennedy?

Apparently guess, r85.

R84, because morons are willing to pay.

I agree with Disney bloggers who are saying that, at best, this is a "one and done" experience. Once you've paid your 6 grand to be shunted around a windowless hotel for two days, who's going to want to do that again? They'd have been so much better off making a standard-style hotel with Star Wars theming that could easily be re-themed if it ever became necessary.

R84, the Grand Californian opens into Disney's CA adventure. You can just walk out of your hotel and be in the park in minutes. Maybe that's why?

Those marketing videos should be making it like look the best immersive experience ever. Yet they have been universally mocked and derided. Everyone but everyone says they look not only terrible but laughable.

Disney was known to have the best most aggressive marketing and yet they have managed in the last few years to make blunder after blunder like nuclear torpedoes exploding in their face.

This is why they hired that PR guy from BP who managed the fallout from that catastrophic oil spill. This is how disastrous Disney has been managing their image and product lately.

[quote]We are speaking of heterosexuals, Disney, and a "Star Wars Hotel"?

[quote]I suppose it's interesting the way a Dr. Phil episode is briefly interesting, but beyond that it's beneath both discussion and contempt. I suppose there are gay and lesbian people who might want to stay at a "Star Wars Hotel," but I doubt we travel in the same circles.

Well, smell YOU, Princess Michael of Kent!

What gay people want to stay in a fucking Star Wars hotel?!

Try a Follies hotel!

The article linked by R12 lost me when they wrote "distain".

But yes, Brayden the cute twink is adorable. I watch his videos on youtube. He is definitely not happy with Chapek.

Disney will do what Cambridge Analytica did. Spend a few bucks on algorithms and bots and make this into a giant 2016 Trump campaign. They’ll convince millions of dopes that this hotel is the greatest thing ever. Shit, people are literally dying every day because of what Cambridge Analytica spewed onto Facebook. Five years later they choose death over a vaccine in a pandemic and send their last dime to a supposed billionaire. They’ll dive into debt to own whatever is the disney equivalent of the “libs.”

Well this has garnered unqualified derision from all the most hard core Star Wars and Disney fans so people are very much in a show me how this is worth 6K for 2nights mood. And Disney has so alienated the Star Wars fans that people are taking almost pleasure in seeing it crash and burn. They say they want to see it succeed but the sense of schadenfreude is very strong. Chapek has made a lot of enemies in the fan base so a huge failure would not be unwelcome. There will be no tears.

"It was so exciting! We met Kyle Ren!"

"Who is Kylo Ren?"

"The bad guy!"

"I thought the bad guy was Darth Vader."

"Kylo Ren is Darth Vader's grandson."

"Oh. Well, did you see Darth Vader?"

"No. He's dead in this timeline."

"Timeline? You paid six thousand dollars and you met who?"

[quote]It doesn't help that Disney is refusing to put anything from the original trilogy into this or Galaxy's Edge

THIS. Nobody gives a fuck about the Skywalker Trilogy. It sucked. They want the original trilogy.

Originally, Galaxy's Edge was supposed to be the original trilogy--the town was going to be on Tatooine. Then Kathleen Kennedy changed everything and we have this offbrand bullshit.

Looking at the photos and videos, this looks nothing like Star Wars. It looks like some space show that was put on network television. Horribly executed.

Kathleen Kennedy needs to go.

Space Karen? As if the ones on this planet weren't bad enough.

Kennedy was working for Iger. These were his decisions ultimately. But she keeps hanging around adding fuel to the fire so everyone thinks the dirt she has on the Disney snake pit would give Dante a whole new hell to write about.

Chapek was head of parks when this all happened, so he deserves blame too. He's the one who cut the entertainment from Galaxy's Edge making it so dull.

Given KK was chosen by Lucas, it really does add to the idea that Lucas sabotaged Star Wars so it would fail under Disney.

r77 with that price its better be young Mark Hamill presenting hole.

Star Wars is not falling under Kennedy. She had mixed success critically, but everything Star Wars has turned out relatively financially successful so far. The TV series continue to be very successful and beloved, the comics apparently as well (I don't follow them), most of the recent video games turned out well, and the novels take up steam due to the High Republic project.

I don't like how she is handling the franchise and would prefer Favreau and Filloni at the helm, but it's not all bad. You could argue that the Disney people are just as responsible, if not more, for the fan disappointment.

The park stuff is a catastrophe though. I went to Galaxy's Edge in 2019 and it seemed boring and like a lazy cash grab by Disney.

Galaxy's Edge is a themed mall with two rides, one of which requires a 20 dollar upcharge per person unless you want to spend all day standing in line.

Pass.

[quote]but everything Star Wars has turned out relatively financially successful so far

Which, in itself, is a failure. I mean, come on, if before the Lucasfilm purchase you were told the same company responsible for the Marvel Cinematic Universe was going to buy Star Wars, do a new trilogy and a theme park land, your expectations would be more than "relatively financially successful".

'Chapek was head of parks when this all happened, so he deserves blame too.'

His cutting back of 'perks' that of course you were paying for has a lot of people upset. And I heard Disney stock has gone down 20% under his tenure which is enormously gratifying. But it was Iger's decision to base Galaxy's Edge on the final 3 films when anybody with a functioning brain cell would have based it on the original movies. But maybe this was cheaper in terms of rights. He was also presiding over the parks when maintenance and cleanliness were going downhill because of budget cuts in terms of staff and this was way before covid. And he was enriching himself obscenely along with his henchmen who would grovel to do his bidding. And he puts out an autobio which makes him out to be such a wonderful brilliant man. But he laid the groundwork for everything that is happening today. His affectionate name among Disney employees was The Screamer. He is better far better looking than Mr. Freeze even with his silver toupee.

Those hotel beds don't look comfortable. Deal breaker.

What I don't get is that everybody seems to be wearing costumes and it looks cool. But, get tourists in there in cut-offs and jeans and it will just look cheap.

R107 Not to mention then doing a runner when covid hits, then once things start to stabilise he spreads stories to the likes of CNBC about him possibly returning as CEO. Interesting to wonder what would've happened if Eiger hadn't run off Thomas Staggs.

I wonder what they'll buy next, and then ruin.

The Star Wars Hotel will be to Iger what California Adventure was to Eisner.

[quote] Which, in itself, is a failure. I mean, come on, if before the Lucasfilm purchase you were told the same company responsible for the Marvel Cinematic Universe was going to buy Star Wars, do a new trilogy and a theme park land, your expectations would be more than "relatively financially successful".

Anyone who does claim that he had actual high expectation is a liar. "This is going to suck so bad!" was the expected reaction to the news of Disney buying the Star Wars franchise. The Simpsons' Comic Book Guy is a pretty realistic representation of the fan nerd Community, which has nothing better to do than post "this reboot is ruining my childhood!" comments on social media.

If the hotel fails, what will they do with the building? It has no windows currently, so turning it into a conventional hotel is unrealistic without major and expensive renovations.

R113 But the fan nerd community is a tiny percentage of the overall audience, same for comic book nerds and Marvel - and their whining hasn't hurt the MCU. So sorry, I don't accept the argument. If that was even remotely true then Episode Seven wouldn't have made $2 billion.

r116. What exactly is wrong my argument? You rightfully point out that the fan nerd community is a tiny percentage of the overall audience. My comment's focus was on that tiny percentage. Your ...

[quote] If that was even remotely true then Episode Seven wouldn't have made $2 billion.

is about the mainstream audience, not the tiny percentage that is the fan nerd community.

It's the mainstream audience that make these superhero movies a success, despite the fan nerd community whining about big studios ignoring their demands for "better" nerd movies instead of movies that appeal to the masses.

R117 Well maybe I misread your post then - I read this line:

[quote]Anyone who does claim that he had actual high expectation is a liar

As being about financial expectations, given you quoted me referring to financial expectations. If you're talking about creative expectations, then fine, I agree. But I maintain that financially, it was widely expected this was a slam-dunk for a huge financial success.

If the hotel fails, I think they would just close it. There are only 100 rooms, which is miniscule compared to other WDW resorts. Even the very expensive Grand Floridian has more than 1,000 rooms and villas.

One of the Disney bloggers were predicting it will end up some kind of corporate lounge after the hotel goes bust.

[quote] it was widely expected this was a slam-dunk for a huge financial success.

By Disney. Maybe Hollywood. Sure. But the fans, the mainstream audience (you know, the demographic for the Star Wars Hotel)? I don't believe so.

And so far Disney has shown no sign to change course, even after the Han Solo spin-off underperformed.

R121 Again, Episode Seven, $2 billion. If the mainstream audience didn't believe so, then it wouldn't have made that much because the mainstream audience simply wouldn't have gone.

And I disagree that the mainstream audience is the demographic for this hotel. Obsessive fans and influencer/social media types are the demos. This is FAR too involved to get any traction with the mainstream audience. Which is why Chapek's idea of rolling this out across the country is dead on arrival.

The Skywalker Trilogy has already begun to fade away. It just isn't all that popular.

r122, the mainstream watch whatever the latest PR hype tells them to watch. They don't have actual expectations other than being (mildly) entertained.

And it will take a lot more PR hype for the mainstream to actually spend thousands of dollars for a Star Wars Hotel stay. And it doesn't look bragging rights (on social media) alone will do the trick if others will mock you rather than be impressed or jealous.

R124 Once again, this clearly is not aimed at the mainstream. The mainstream audience isn't going to go in for LARPing.

[quote] Once again, this clearly is not aimed at the mainstream.

But it's aimed at the nerds? The very same nerds who post on social media how much they hate the advert?

Disney, for whatever reason, made the deliberate decision to promote a Star Wars Hotel that didn't appeal to the hard core fans. So, who did they (Disney) believe they made this hotel for?

Was it really just bad planning where they want the nerds, but don't give them what they want and expect them to fork over thousands of dollars away?

I rather think Disney was doing it for the rich part of the mainstream audience, an audience which doesn't know any better and won't bother the staff with inane questions and demands about the authenticity of the hotel.

Sorry, ... for over thousands of dollars anyway?

[quote]But it's aimed at the nerds? The very same nerds who post on social media how much they hate the advert?

Do you see anyone here arguing that things went to plan? You do understand that Disney can plan for one thing, and it not happen the way they planned, right? Saying 'the nerds didn't like it, that proves it wasn't aimed at them' is just stupid.

[quote]Disney, for whatever reason, made the deliberate decision to promote a Star Wars Hotel that didn't appeal to the hard core fans

How are you not getting this? They thought it would appeal to them. They obviously thought wrong.

[quote]Was it really just bad planning where they want the nerds, but don't give them what they want and expect them to fork over thousands of dollars away?

Yes.

This is a two day experience where everything is already laid out in an itinerary. Practically every hour is accounted for. There's no pool time. The rooms are basic. Two days of LARPing. Even the most bubbled exec is going to know that will have a limited audience.

Obsessive Star Wars fans and vloggers, influencers and the FOMO crowd.

It doesn't look like Star Wars at all.

[quote]It doesn't look like Star Wars at all.

Excellent!

Even if this hotel were appealing to hardcore fans, how many times would anyone want to shell out 6 grand for a two-day stationary cruise? This seems like a one-and-done experience. Long-term, how was this place ever supposed to sustain itself?

Terrible week for Disney Star Wars. More cancellations, etc.

R131 Disney has been milking the obsessive fanbases of its various IPs for decades, they probably thought they could carry on doing that. Maybe a new 'cruise' every couple of years, timed with the newest Star Wars film?

Mind you, this is the same company who thinks Genie Plus is a good idea, so who the fuck knows what they're thinking.

Fun live nerd chat. Live now.

Looks like a jail or a warehouse in an industrial park.

Who are the adult children who want an experience like this in the first place?

I guess the same people who flock to cosplay conventions.

R135, I Think the idea is the that guest don't see the outside of the property.

That's right. They'll be collected on windowless buses. No, seriously.

I hope Disney buys the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise. I want to see it in the movies and at the parks.

[quote] If the hotel fails, what will they do with the building? It has no windows currently, so turning it into a conventional hotel is unrealistic without major and expensive renovations

Minimum security prison or rehab center.

[quote]with that price its better be young Mark Hamill presenting hole.

I would've hit this to hell and back

Disney parks are pathetic.

Sexy version of Prince Eric, the best of Disney.

Hamill was so beautiful. Too bad he had his car accident before the first film was even finished. He would have had a major career outside of Star Wars if it hadn't happened. It really ruined his beautiful features. He needed Ann-Margret's plastic surgeon. He should have sued his.

If Star Wars were made today, no way would the lead be a blond white man.

The details of Hamill’s accident were always hush-hush. It says on Wiki that he merely broke his nose and fractured his cheekbone, and didn’t need any surgery, but his looks underwent a dramatic change.

The rumor was that he was trying to get out of his Eight is Enough contract somehow. I just remember being smitten with him during the first movie, and during the second, going ewww.

Mark Hamill before and after the accident.

I thought it was hush hush because he was DUI. That's a very stupid way to get out of a contract if he did it intentionally.

We had an old Mark Hamill thread where several posters told stories about how he was bi back in the day.

Some people have more money than sense, so maybe this could work….even though it looks cheap and naff.