Two nights, family of four, $6000.
People are cancelling reservations after the latest preview video, since pulled by Disney.
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Two nights, family of four, $6000.
People are cancelling reservations after the latest preview video, since pulled by Disney.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | January 3, 2022 10:10 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 9, 2021 5:55 AM |
We are speaking of heterosexuals, Disney, and a "Star Wars Hotel"?
I suppose it's interesting the way a Dr. Phil episode is briefly interesting, but beyond that it's beneath both discussion and contempt. I suppose there are gay and lesbian people who might want to stay at a "Star Wars Hotel," but I doubt we travel in the same circles.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 9, 2021 6:07 AM |
R5 video from 1:50:00.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 9, 2021 6:09 AM |
My stay in the Jabba the Hut Hut was terrible.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 9, 2021 6:15 AM |
$4800 for two people. That's ridiculous.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | December 9, 2021 10:18 PM |
Galaxy's Edge was weirdly boring. It was like a mall, with two rides, one of which was lame, and the other required a 3-hour wait.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 10, 2021 5:30 PM |
So why is it failing? Why are the fans upset? I can't click on the links.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 14, 2021 2:22 PM |
R13, because they're asking $4800/2 guests and it looks like shit. YouTube has tons of stories about it. Everyone's goofing on it. Disney even pulled an elaborate preview video (with a cute twink actor from ABC) because everyone was goofing on it. It's still on YouTube, however, in videos where people are goofing on it.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 14, 2021 2:25 PM |
Disney is evil corporation. They have no heart anymore.. greedy fucks
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 14, 2021 2:28 PM |
So, it’s never going to look EXACTLY like a movie set because of handicapped access, fire and code laws, etc.
I think they would’ve been better served creating a theater of sorts that people could walk through, or a student camp but yeah, $4800 is like a trip to Columbia and hiring two really hot male escorts!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 14, 2021 2:33 PM |
In the OP's video... who's the cute twink mini-gay "ABC Guy"?
Don't even try to tell me he's straight. He needs to do a stint on "Fun-Size Boys".
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 14, 2021 2:46 PM |
R20, the OP video kid is Brayden. He's not the ABC guy: he's a Disney news YouTuber.
The ABC actor is in the video that the YouTuber is reacting to at R14.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 14, 2021 2:49 PM |
Eldergays on Datalounge are not the audience for Disney's Star Wars garbage. This will not be a failure since nothing with the "Star Wars" brand is ever a failure. People will pay lots of money for Star Wars and always will, regardless of breathless YouTubers searching for clicks.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 14, 2021 2:53 PM |
It would be tough to justify such a pricey vacation during times like this. They should have just made another themed hotel, and not turned it into an “adventure”.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 14, 2021 3:06 PM |
Star Wars legacy was destroyed by Disney
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 14, 2021 3:30 PM |
I wonder what Disney will buy next, and then destroy.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 14, 2021 3:31 PM |
SHOW ME THE ORIGINAL, CRINGEY VIDEO.
The O.C.D. Aspie OP spamming reaction videos is WORTHLESS.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 14, 2021 3:34 PM |
R27, they removed it. It's gone. R4 shows all of it.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 14, 2021 3:35 PM |
Disney keeps assuming that all Star Wars fans will spend any amount of money on anything Star Wars-related, no matter how shitty. The original Galaxy's Edge concept was much more immersive and had extra rides, a lot of strolling actors playing out cool scenes, etc. Disney nixed all of it and cranked up the shopping aspect to wring more money out of guests. This hotel is another money grab which will flounder once the most obsessed fans have paid their 6 grand for a subpar experience.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 14, 2021 3:44 PM |
Just one more in a string of disastrous decisions by Disney.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 14, 2021 3:49 PM |
Disney will milk the wealthy for a few days. In 5-10 years, the price will fall dramatically
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 14, 2021 3:51 PM |
The last time we went we ate at all their so-called deluxe restaurants. That French place upstairs was the worst restaurant experience of my life. The waiter was the rudest cunt ever. $500 to eat crap and be ignored.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 14, 2021 4:06 PM |
Commenters on the YouTube videos are predicting that Disney will drop the failed LARP experience within a year or two, and it will just be a Star Wars-themed hotel.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 14, 2021 4:33 PM |
I hope a bunch of rich nerds go there and get COVID.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 14, 2021 5:03 PM |
I guess it's trying to mimic a cruise--everything is included, you're staying inside Disney World, and it feels like you're rushing through space. Thus, the wild price.
I'm sure Disney will start hiring celebrities to go on the first experience and rave about it on social media.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 14, 2021 5:16 PM |
This was a tremendously stupid concept, anyone who has paid even passing attention to resort development in Las Vegas was aware that lavish theming has been phased out of all resorts there. (ResortsWorld which just opened dropped the planned Chinese pagoda theming for modern designs with some Oriental embellishments). Most people now just want chic surroundings that look good on Instagram.
The world of Star Wars was purposely designed to look unpleasant as possible, along with Alien they created the aesthetic of the “rusty future” so iconic of the 70s. People don’t want to go on vacation on a warship. A modern luxury resort with lush grounds designed to look like alien terrain and Star Wars embellishments in the design would have been a better proposition.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | December 14, 2021 5:55 PM |
You can't live in a movie, movies are fantasies, hotels are housekeepers, noise, tourists and crappy food.
Oh, and r22, "Eldergays on Datalounge are not the audience for Disney's Star Wars garbage."
This "Eldergay" was 17 when the first "Stars Wars" came out, so don't you tell me... Now get off my lawn before I call the cops
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 14, 2021 6:27 PM |
Disney Plus is also garbage.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 14, 2021 6:42 PM |
Is there a world in which a “Star Wars hotel” isn’t inherently cringe? It sounds to me more like the internets has decided it hates this, and that is that.
But seriously, what constitutes a “good” Star Wars hotel experience?
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 14, 2021 6:46 PM |
The only thing I find more tiresome than the Disney Gays who obsess over this stuff are the anti-Disney Trolls who post two hour videos detailing everything wrong with a five minute promotional video and why it portends a level of disaster unseen since Hiroshima.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 14, 2021 9:46 PM |
Monsieur Paul R34? Definitely not the best.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 14, 2021 10:05 PM |
Anti Disney trolls start out as vloggers who love Disney and theme parks and they puke and shit pixie dust. The problem is for the last number of years those in charge have trashed the brand and everything the brand can absorb while making obscene amounts of money. The late 20th Century brand of American capitalism which continues stronger than ever. Disney and Star Wars fans feel betrayed and are now unleashing their disdain and mockery on the suits and the skirts. When you feel wronged concerning something you feel passionate about you can bitch endlessly without a problem.
The Disney PR machine is now attacking some of the vloggers calling one guy in particular an idiot for getting something very wrong. It turns out he was right. Disney has simply promoted all the young and stupid arrogant interns while getting rid of the people who had experience and made a good salary.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 14, 2021 10:23 PM |
[quote]This will not be a failure since nothing with the "Star Wars" brand is ever a failure.
Thanken yousa so mui.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 14, 2021 10:58 PM |
Brayden the cute young thing in the OP's post was just a few years ago Disney's biggest cheerleader. Gushing over everything they did. Now he tears into the CEO whenever he has the chance. And of course Bob Chapek gives him frequent opportunities.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 14, 2021 11:50 PM |
R35 The problem with that is it's not a good hotel as built. The rooms are small, there's no pool, etc. They can get away with that with the LARP thing because the day is so planned that the guests spend basically no time in their rooms. But to operate as a normal hotel will require hugely expensive retrofitting.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 15, 2021 12:51 AM |
As more of a Star Trek guy, I'm with the people saying the aesthetic isn't Star Wars. Because it looks more like Star Trek than the current incarnations. That ship looks like it belongs to 1990s Trek.
The price is outrageous. You can take an actual 4 day Disney Cruise for a fraction of that amount.
I was hoping this would work, because I wanted Paramount to copy it for Trek.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 15, 2021 1:32 AM |
Too bad, R49. It almost happened years ago. See link.
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 15, 2021 3:26 AM |
R50 I know. Still bummed.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 15, 2021 3:32 AM |
This was all Bob Chapek's idea, you know.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 15, 2021 3:41 AM |
Brayden has a nice voice and had interesting things to say unlike that incredibly cringey trailer.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 15, 2021 4:02 AM |
I wonder if that other Bob is still after the presidency. Time is running out.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 15, 2021 4:17 AM |
It doesn't help that Disney is refusing to put anything from the original trilogy into this or Galaxy's Edge
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 15, 2021 4:52 AM |
Jesus. How can you fuck up something like that? Fans are the ones willing to pay such high prices IF you give them an actual Star Wars experience. You'd think they would pay for something that doesn't LOOK like Star Wars? That trailer should've been full of Star Wars memorabilia, with Chewbacca as the tour guide, subtitled, of course.
It's like these guys haven't even seen Westworld. That's how you do an immersed vacation experience.
Cheap bastards.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 15, 2021 6:47 AM |
This reminds me of when i stayed at the Hilton in Vegas. It was Star Trek themed and i was terrified of the Klingons lol
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 15, 2021 8:26 AM |
The Star Trek casino at the LVH didn’t even last very long did it?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 15, 2021 9:50 AM |
Actually, it did, R58. 10 years. 1998 -2008.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 15, 2021 1:08 PM |
Brady the OP's video host seems awfully chipper.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 15, 2021 1:37 PM |
It looks so cheap, it's like they want to make a profit with the first booking.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 15, 2021 1:43 PM |
I hate to jump on the bandwagon of, "Haha, Disney fails!" But in this case, they've fallen flat on their face. I've worked in hospitality for over 20 years, and I followed this project as soon as it was announced.
Besides not being a 'Star Wars' fan, I didn't grasp the concept of the insanely expensive, immersive experience (the itinerary to follow, no windows in the rooms, etc.). This could've been done so much better, and at a much cheaper price point for the guests. As someone said above, a traditional hotel with a pool, etc. Just throw in a Jabba statue, Baby Yoda gnomes, some light sabers, etc. Who wants to be stuck in a windowless building for x3 days for $6K?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 15, 2021 4:42 PM |
^ Give it a year and they'll have special 3-day packages starting at $299
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 15, 2021 4:46 PM |
Too much money.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 15, 2021 4:50 PM |
[quote] As someone said above, a traditional hotel with a pool, etc. Just throw in a Jabba statue, Baby Yoda gnomes, some light sabers, etc.
Yup. It could have been just fine that way. This is a disaster, however.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 15, 2021 4:57 PM |
WTF is this shit? CRT screens straight out of 1980? The TV show Star Trek from the 60s had a better bridge
Oh, and that is one short little fellow there
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 15, 2021 5:36 PM |
Here's the bridge from the original Star Trek, way cooler from almost 60 years ago
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 15, 2021 5:40 PM |
The windowless rooms aren’t a problem because you do still get “a view” but if it was me I would’ve built different outdoor areas, exclusive to the cruise guests, and each day say oh we are visiting planet whatever. So it isn’t just being stuck inside the “ship” except for you trip to Disney Studios.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 15, 2021 5:45 PM |
[quote]Oh, and that is one short little fellow there
That's the youngest son on The Goldbergs, he looks like he is seven or eight but is really 35.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 15, 2021 9:28 PM |
How is no windows. In bedrooms legal? Isn’t that a fire hazard?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 15, 2021 9:30 PM |
Interesting theory I've seen, that the reason it all looks so generic scifi rather than obviously Star Wars is so they can easily start offering up LARP 'cruises' based on other space-themed IP, like Guardian of the Galaxy, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 16, 2021 12:23 AM |
It will be hilarious if some guy out in Baker, CA manages to do it better than Disney. This article is from 2015 but construction is ongoing.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 16, 2021 12:28 AM |
The original concept artof the rooms is very good. They seem to have shrunk them 50%.
And why when you look out the winds are you looking at obvious illustrations?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 16, 2021 12:29 AM |
IMDB says Braydon is 5'9? I don't think so.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 16, 2021 12:59 AM |
^sorry, not Brayden but the twink touring with the tall woman in vid.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 16, 2021 1:00 AM |
Does the price include a young Mark Hamil lookalike ?
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 16, 2021 1:19 AM |
The problem with this isn't the price. It's that the details look cheap and the marketing rollout is a disaster.
There are already many experiences at Disney parks that are even more expensive. There are some VIP tours that are $12,000/day, lots of hotel rooms in the $1,200-$4,000/night range, and a $1,250/person dinner at Disneyland, to name a few. Even a basic VIP tour costs $4,000+ per day. Some of the hotel rooms (not a suite; just a room) are more than $1,000/night. Even the "value" resorts are charging hundreds of dollars per night.
If Galactic Starcruiser fails; don't expect them to offer huge discounts. They'll just close it. I could see them possibly offering special rates for Disney Vacation Club owners and/or Club 33 members.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 16, 2021 1:43 AM |
People who spend $5000 a night at the Grand Floridian merely want a nice place to sleep when they come back from the parks. No one has ever committed this kind of money to a cosplay weekend where you are held hostage inside a building that looks like it was assembled from old parts of Epcot Center.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 16, 2021 2:13 AM |
People spend huge amounts of money on Disney experiences so they can flex on social media. If the buzz is that this place is a lame rip-off, visitors get no bragging rights. That's what will kill the Star Wars hotel quicker than anything.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 16, 2021 4:03 AM |
Can you just tell us what’s in the video so I don’t have to watch it? Jeez.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 23, 2021 12:25 PM |
What r82 said. Why would anyone think that posters here want to watch two dozen youtube videos to learn what's wrong with a hotel at Disney World? Either tell us what the deal is, link to an actual story, or fuck off.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 23, 2021 12:27 PM |
Tangentially does anyone know why Disney’s Grand Californian is literally twice as expensive as comparable resorts literally down the street in Anaheim?
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 23, 2021 12:41 PM |
Was the blue alien captain designed on purpose to look like Kathleen Kennedy?
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 23, 2021 12:43 PM |
Apparently guess, r85.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | December 23, 2021 4:28 PM |
R84, because morons are willing to pay.
by Anonymous | reply 87 | December 23, 2021 4:28 PM |
I agree with Disney bloggers who are saying that, at best, this is a "one and done" experience. Once you've paid your 6 grand to be shunted around a windowless hotel for two days, who's going to want to do that again? They'd have been so much better off making a standard-style hotel with Star Wars theming that could easily be re-themed if it ever became necessary.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 23, 2021 5:13 PM |
R84, the Grand Californian opens into Disney's CA adventure. You can just walk out of your hotel and be in the park in minutes. Maybe that's why?
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 23, 2021 8:58 PM |
Those marketing videos should be making it like look the best immersive experience ever. Yet they have been universally mocked and derided. Everyone but everyone says they look not only terrible but laughable.
Disney was known to have the best most aggressive marketing and yet they have managed in the last few years to make blunder after blunder like nuclear torpedoes exploding in their face.
This is why they hired that PR guy from BP who managed the fallout from that catastrophic oil spill. This is how disastrous Disney has been managing their image and product lately.
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 23, 2021 9:10 PM |
[quote]We are speaking of heterosexuals, Disney, and a "Star Wars Hotel"?
[quote]I suppose it's interesting the way a Dr. Phil episode is briefly interesting, but beyond that it's beneath both discussion and contempt. I suppose there are gay and lesbian people who might want to stay at a "Star Wars Hotel," but I doubt we travel in the same circles.
Well, smell YOU, Princess Michael of Kent!
by Anonymous | reply 91 | December 23, 2021 9:10 PM |
What gay people want to stay in a fucking Star Wars hotel?!
Try a Follies hotel!
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 23, 2021 9:17 PM |
The article linked by R12 lost me when they wrote "distain".
But yes, Brayden the cute twink is adorable. I watch his videos on youtube. He is definitely not happy with Chapek.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | December 23, 2021 10:18 PM |
Disney will do what Cambridge Analytica did. Spend a few bucks on algorithms and bots and make this into a giant 2016 Trump campaign. They’ll convince millions of dopes that this hotel is the greatest thing ever. Shit, people are literally dying every day because of what Cambridge Analytica spewed onto Facebook. Five years later they choose death over a vaccine in a pandemic and send their last dime to a supposed billionaire. They’ll dive into debt to own whatever is the disney equivalent of the “libs.”
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 24, 2021 12:17 AM |
Well this has garnered unqualified derision from all the most hard core Star Wars and Disney fans so people are very much in a show me how this is worth 6K for 2nights mood. And Disney has so alienated the Star Wars fans that people are taking almost pleasure in seeing it crash and burn. They say they want to see it succeed but the sense of schadenfreude is very strong. Chapek has made a lot of enemies in the fan base so a huge failure would not be unwelcome. There will be no tears.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | December 24, 2021 1:20 AM |
"It was so exciting! We met Kyle Ren!"
"Who is Kylo Ren?"
"The bad guy!"
"I thought the bad guy was Darth Vader."
"Kylo Ren is Darth Vader's grandson."
"Oh. Well, did you see Darth Vader?"
"No. He's dead in this timeline."
"Timeline? You paid six thousand dollars and you met who?"
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 24, 2021 1:45 AM |
[quote]It doesn't help that Disney is refusing to put anything from the original trilogy into this or Galaxy's Edge
THIS. Nobody gives a fuck about the Skywalker Trilogy. It sucked. They want the original trilogy.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 24, 2021 1:50 AM |
Originally, Galaxy's Edge was supposed to be the original trilogy--the town was going to be on Tatooine. Then Kathleen Kennedy changed everything and we have this offbrand bullshit.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | December 24, 2021 2:41 AM |
Looking at the photos and videos, this looks nothing like Star Wars. It looks like some space show that was put on network television. Horribly executed.
Kathleen Kennedy needs to go.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | December 24, 2021 2:45 AM |
Space Karen? As if the ones on this planet weren't bad enough.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | December 24, 2021 2:55 AM |
Kennedy was working for Iger. These were his decisions ultimately. But she keeps hanging around adding fuel to the fire so everyone thinks the dirt she has on the Disney snake pit would give Dante a whole new hell to write about.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | December 24, 2021 7:40 AM |
Chapek was head of parks when this all happened, so he deserves blame too. He's the one who cut the entertainment from Galaxy's Edge making it so dull.
Given KK was chosen by Lucas, it really does add to the idea that Lucas sabotaged Star Wars so it would fail under Disney.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | December 24, 2021 8:20 AM |
r77 with that price its better be young Mark Hamill presenting hole.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | December 24, 2021 8:37 AM |
Star Wars is not falling under Kennedy. She had mixed success critically, but everything Star Wars has turned out relatively financially successful so far. The TV series continue to be very successful and beloved, the comics apparently as well (I don't follow them), most of the recent video games turned out well, and the novels take up steam due to the High Republic project.
I don't like how she is handling the franchise and would prefer Favreau and Filloni at the helm, but it's not all bad. You could argue that the Disney people are just as responsible, if not more, for the fan disappointment.
The park stuff is a catastrophe though. I went to Galaxy's Edge in 2019 and it seemed boring and like a lazy cash grab by Disney.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | December 24, 2021 8:39 AM |
Galaxy's Edge is a themed mall with two rides, one of which requires a 20 dollar upcharge per person unless you want to spend all day standing in line.
Pass.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | December 24, 2021 8:56 AM |
[quote]but everything Star Wars has turned out relatively financially successful so far
Which, in itself, is a failure. I mean, come on, if before the Lucasfilm purchase you were told the same company responsible for the Marvel Cinematic Universe was going to buy Star Wars, do a new trilogy and a theme park land, your expectations would be more than "relatively financially successful".
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 24, 2021 11:14 AM |
'Chapek was head of parks when this all happened, so he deserves blame too.'
His cutting back of 'perks' that of course you were paying for has a lot of people upset. And I heard Disney stock has gone down 20% under his tenure which is enormously gratifying. But it was Iger's decision to base Galaxy's Edge on the final 3 films when anybody with a functioning brain cell would have based it on the original movies. But maybe this was cheaper in terms of rights. He was also presiding over the parks when maintenance and cleanliness were going downhill because of budget cuts in terms of staff and this was way before covid. And he was enriching himself obscenely along with his henchmen who would grovel to do his bidding. And he puts out an autobio which makes him out to be such a wonderful brilliant man. But he laid the groundwork for everything that is happening today. His affectionate name among Disney employees was The Screamer. He is better far better looking than Mr. Freeze even with his silver toupee.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 24, 2021 11:14 AM |
Those hotel beds don't look comfortable. Deal breaker.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 24, 2021 11:41 AM |
What I don't get is that everybody seems to be wearing costumes and it looks cool. But, get tourists in there in cut-offs and jeans and it will just look cheap.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | December 24, 2021 12:06 PM |
R107 Not to mention then doing a runner when covid hits, then once things start to stabilise he spreads stories to the likes of CNBC about him possibly returning as CEO. Interesting to wonder what would've happened if Eiger hadn't run off Thomas Staggs.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 24, 2021 12:16 PM |
I wonder what they'll buy next, and then ruin.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | December 24, 2021 6:46 PM |
The Star Wars Hotel will be to Iger what California Adventure was to Eisner.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 24, 2021 7:03 PM |
[quote] Which, in itself, is a failure. I mean, come on, if before the Lucasfilm purchase you were told the same company responsible for the Marvel Cinematic Universe was going to buy Star Wars, do a new trilogy and a theme park land, your expectations would be more than "relatively financially successful".
Anyone who does claim that he had actual high expectation is a liar. "This is going to suck so bad!" was the expected reaction to the news of Disney buying the Star Wars franchise. The Simpsons' Comic Book Guy is a pretty realistic representation of the fan nerd Community, which has nothing better to do than post "this reboot is ruining my childhood!" comments on social media.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 24, 2021 7:12 PM |
If the hotel fails, what will they do with the building? It has no windows currently, so turning it into a conventional hotel is unrealistic without major and expensive renovations.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 24, 2021 7:14 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 115 | December 24, 2021 7:15 PM |
R113 But the fan nerd community is a tiny percentage of the overall audience, same for comic book nerds and Marvel - and their whining hasn't hurt the MCU. So sorry, I don't accept the argument. If that was even remotely true then Episode Seven wouldn't have made $2 billion.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | December 24, 2021 7:18 PM |
r116. What exactly is wrong my argument? You rightfully point out that the fan nerd community is a tiny percentage of the overall audience. My comment's focus was on that tiny percentage. Your ...
[quote] If that was even remotely true then Episode Seven wouldn't have made $2 billion.
is about the mainstream audience, not the tiny percentage that is the fan nerd community.
It's the mainstream audience that make these superhero movies a success, despite the fan nerd community whining about big studios ignoring their demands for "better" nerd movies instead of movies that appeal to the masses.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | December 24, 2021 7:26 PM |
R117 Well maybe I misread your post then - I read this line:
[quote]Anyone who does claim that he had actual high expectation is a liar
As being about financial expectations, given you quoted me referring to financial expectations. If you're talking about creative expectations, then fine, I agree. But I maintain that financially, it was widely expected this was a slam-dunk for a huge financial success.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 24, 2021 7:29 PM |
If the hotel fails, I think they would just close it. There are only 100 rooms, which is miniscule compared to other WDW resorts. Even the very expensive Grand Floridian has more than 1,000 rooms and villas.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | December 24, 2021 7:30 PM |
One of the Disney bloggers were predicting it will end up some kind of corporate lounge after the hotel goes bust.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | December 24, 2021 7:33 PM |
[quote] it was widely expected this was a slam-dunk for a huge financial success.
By Disney. Maybe Hollywood. Sure. But the fans, the mainstream audience (you know, the demographic for the Star Wars Hotel)? I don't believe so.
And so far Disney has shown no sign to change course, even after the Han Solo spin-off underperformed.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | December 24, 2021 7:33 PM |
R121 Again, Episode Seven, $2 billion. If the mainstream audience didn't believe so, then it wouldn't have made that much because the mainstream audience simply wouldn't have gone.
And I disagree that the mainstream audience is the demographic for this hotel. Obsessive fans and influencer/social media types are the demos. This is FAR too involved to get any traction with the mainstream audience. Which is why Chapek's idea of rolling this out across the country is dead on arrival.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 24, 2021 7:46 PM |
The Skywalker Trilogy has already begun to fade away. It just isn't all that popular.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 24, 2021 7:48 PM |
r122, the mainstream watch whatever the latest PR hype tells them to watch. They don't have actual expectations other than being (mildly) entertained.
And it will take a lot more PR hype for the mainstream to actually spend thousands of dollars for a Star Wars Hotel stay. And it doesn't look bragging rights (on social media) alone will do the trick if others will mock you rather than be impressed or jealous.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 24, 2021 8:07 PM |
R124 Once again, this clearly is not aimed at the mainstream. The mainstream audience isn't going to go in for LARPing.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | December 24, 2021 8:16 PM |
[quote] Once again, this clearly is not aimed at the mainstream.
But it's aimed at the nerds? The very same nerds who post on social media how much they hate the advert?
Disney, for whatever reason, made the deliberate decision to promote a Star Wars Hotel that didn't appeal to the hard core fans. So, who did they (Disney) believe they made this hotel for?
Was it really just bad planning where they want the nerds, but don't give them what they want and expect them to fork over thousands of dollars away?
I rather think Disney was doing it for the rich part of the mainstream audience, an audience which doesn't know any better and won't bother the staff with inane questions and demands about the authenticity of the hotel.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 24, 2021 8:33 PM |
Sorry, ... for over thousands of dollars anyway?
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 24, 2021 8:34 PM |
[quote]But it's aimed at the nerds? The very same nerds who post on social media how much they hate the advert?
Do you see anyone here arguing that things went to plan? You do understand that Disney can plan for one thing, and it not happen the way they planned, right? Saying 'the nerds didn't like it, that proves it wasn't aimed at them' is just stupid.
[quote]Disney, for whatever reason, made the deliberate decision to promote a Star Wars Hotel that didn't appeal to the hard core fans
How are you not getting this? They thought it would appeal to them. They obviously thought wrong.
[quote]Was it really just bad planning where they want the nerds, but don't give them what they want and expect them to fork over thousands of dollars away?
Yes.
This is a two day experience where everything is already laid out in an itinerary. Practically every hour is accounted for. There's no pool time. The rooms are basic. Two days of LARPing. Even the most bubbled exec is going to know that will have a limited audience.
Obsessive Star Wars fans and vloggers, influencers and the FOMO crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 24, 2021 8:47 PM |
It doesn't look like Star Wars at all.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | December 24, 2021 8:50 PM |
[quote]It doesn't look like Star Wars at all.
Excellent!
by Anonymous | reply 130 | December 24, 2021 8:52 PM |
Even if this hotel were appealing to hardcore fans, how many times would anyone want to shell out 6 grand for a two-day stationary cruise? This seems like a one-and-done experience. Long-term, how was this place ever supposed to sustain itself?
by Anonymous | reply 131 | December 24, 2021 8:56 PM |
Terrible week for Disney Star Wars. More cancellations, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | December 24, 2021 9:00 PM |
R131 Disney has been milking the obsessive fanbases of its various IPs for decades, they probably thought they could carry on doing that. Maybe a new 'cruise' every couple of years, timed with the newest Star Wars film?
Mind you, this is the same company who thinks Genie Plus is a good idea, so who the fuck knows what they're thinking.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | December 24, 2021 9:04 PM |
Looks like a jail or a warehouse in an industrial park.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | December 25, 2021 11:43 AM |
Who are the adult children who want an experience like this in the first place?
I guess the same people who flock to cosplay conventions.
by Anonymous | reply 136 | December 25, 2021 12:16 PM |
R135, I Think the idea is the that guest don't see the outside of the property.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | December 25, 2021 3:36 PM |
That's right. They'll be collected on windowless buses. No, seriously.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 25, 2021 4:17 PM |
I hope Disney buys the Five Nights at Freddy's franchise. I want to see it in the movies and at the parks.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | December 25, 2021 9:53 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 140 | December 25, 2021 9:56 PM |
[quote] If the hotel fails, what will they do with the building? It has no windows currently, so turning it into a conventional hotel is unrealistic without major and expensive renovations
Minimum security prison or rehab center.
by Anonymous | reply 141 | December 27, 2021 3:27 AM |
[quote]with that price its better be young Mark Hamill presenting hole.
I would've hit this to hell and back
by Anonymous | reply 142 | December 27, 2021 10:32 PM |
by Anonymous | reply 144 | December 28, 2021 2:14 AM |
Sexy version of Prince Eric, the best of Disney.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | January 3, 2022 4:22 AM |
Hamill was so beautiful. Too bad he had his car accident before the first film was even finished. He would have had a major career outside of Star Wars if it hadn't happened. It really ruined his beautiful features. He needed Ann-Margret's plastic surgeon. He should have sued his.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | January 3, 2022 12:24 PM |
If Star Wars were made today, no way would the lead be a blond white man.
by Anonymous | reply 147 | January 3, 2022 2:57 PM |
The details of Hamill’s accident were always hush-hush. It says on Wiki that he merely broke his nose and fractured his cheekbone, and didn’t need any surgery, but his looks underwent a dramatic change.
The rumor was that he was trying to get out of his Eight is Enough contract somehow. I just remember being smitten with him during the first movie, and during the second, going ewww.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | January 3, 2022 6:29 PM |
I thought it was hush hush because he was DUI. That's a very stupid way to get out of a contract if he did it intentionally.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | January 3, 2022 7:48 PM |
We had an old Mark Hamill thread where several posters told stories about how he was bi back in the day.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | January 3, 2022 8:08 PM |
Some people have more money than sense, so maybe this could work….even though it looks cheap and naff.
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