I love her voice. She was a tour de force and one of the first African American opera singers to be a star.
"Lee" is still with us, in Maryland retirement community.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | December 4, 2021 5:56 PM |
“"Lee" is still with us, in Maryland retirement community.”
Oh no! Aging has driven the Price down.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | December 4, 2021 6:16 PM |
Great, great star.
Favorite anecdote about her:
White woman in Bloomingdales to Leontyne Price in the early 70s: "Excuse me... but aren't you Marion Anderson?"
Leontyne Price: "No, honey... I'm Beverly Sills!"
by Anonymous | reply 4 | December 4, 2021 6:22 PM |
Just collect as many recordings of hers that you can and you'll know all you need to know. One of the greatest voices of the 20th Century. Nobody today comes close. It must be something in the water.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | December 4, 2021 6:26 PM |
I'm currently listening to her Christmas album.
1961
Lausche der Klange
Leontyne Price with the Philharmonic. Conducted by Herbert von Karajan.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | December 4, 2021 6:43 PM |
My all time favorite opera singer!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | December 4, 2021 6:45 PM |
According to opera lore, she got stuck in a pyramid on the opening night of [italic]Antony and Cleopatra[/italic] (1966) at the Met and freaked out on stage.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | December 6, 2021 7:38 PM |
She was no Kathleen Battle.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | December 6, 2021 7:42 PM |
Why didn't they use her for Carmen Jones? She was quite photogenic.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | December 6, 2021 7:43 PM |
I know her picture, her name and not much else. After reading OP's NYT article, now I LOVE HER! So refreshing to hear an artist who loves their own work and appreciates what they were able to achieve at that level. *Sends Kisses*
by Anonymous | reply 12 | December 6, 2021 7:52 PM |
The greatest voice I've ever heard--live and on records.
Not only the sound of it but the way she uses it to express. Her gospel background really helps her present arias like no one else.
The Verdiana of her generation without doubt. Great in Puccini, Mozart, and Strauss too
by Anonymous | reply 13 | December 6, 2021 7:52 PM |
I go to her recordings more than anyone elses.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | December 6, 2021 7:52 PM |
Leontyne and Whitney Houston are related somehow. Cousins, I think
by Anonymous | reply 15 | December 6, 2021 7:53 PM |
[quote] Why didn't they use her for Carmen Jones? She was quite photogenic.
No, Marilyn Horne dubbed the movie Carmen Jones
by Anonymous | reply 16 | December 6, 2021 7:54 PM |
^ spoiled this thread
by Anonymous | reply 17 | December 6, 2021 7:54 PM |
An absolute legend--not only for what she stood for (a barrier breaking Black opera singer) but a voice for the ages that has been preserved wonderfully on records
by Anonymous | reply 18 | December 6, 2021 7:55 PM |
I always say that her voice has kept me from going insane. Whenever I feel stressed, I listen to her albums and calm down. Such a glorious, velvety, smoky voice that conveys so much meaning.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | December 6, 2021 7:56 PM |
r3, that's from 2017. She's 95 by now. Apparently she still does live--with her brother, a retired general, in Baltimore
by Anonymous | reply 21 | December 6, 2021 7:57 PM |
Watch the excellent documentary The Opera House, about the creation of the new Metropolitan Opera House, which opened at Lincoln Center in 1966. Her story is a major part of the documentary, as General Manager Rudolf Bing gathered an All-American cast to open the new house with Sam Barber's new Antony and Cleopatra.
The opera was somewhat of a flop but, by all accounts, she Price was glorious, as a Barber wrote Cleopatra for Price's voice (much of it at her dinner table). She recorded to the two big Cleopatra arias (and, yes, she sounds amazing).
Note that Justino Diaz, the Puerto Rican baritone who just received a Kennedy Center Honor, was her Antony.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | December 6, 2021 8:01 PM |
I never actually saw her in a live opera. i did see her sing some selections from Barber’s “Vanessa” at Tanglewood once and was BLOWN the FUCK away not even by her singing but by her presence on stage, the orchestra would rage and cavalcade through a climax and the way she stood there riveted you to the that spot in time, absolutely amazing performer and artist.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | December 6, 2021 8:03 PM |
So many have been compared to her: Martina Arroyo, Leona Mitchell, Kiri TeKanawa, etc, but not one can match her.
I recall reading that a cellist at the MET tried to emulate the way she sung phrases in the way he played/
by Anonymous | reply 24 | December 6, 2021 8:05 PM |
Verdi hasn't been the same since she retired from staged opera in 1995.
Hers was the last fully satisfying Aida. Leona Mitchell and Aprile Millo, just after her gave solid accounts. After that, the Aidas have just sucked--eastern european divas dominate with the metallic unsympathetic voices with no sense of vulnerablity. YUCK
by Anonymous | reply 25 | December 6, 2021 8:15 PM |
It's mind boggling that there is no good published biography about her. She was such a trailblazer in so many ways.
For years, she said she was writing an autobiography, but nothing has come of it.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | December 6, 2021 8:20 PM |
The gays have always loved Leontyne.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | December 6, 2021 8:32 PM |
The only time I saw her live was at a recital she gave after she retired from the MET. I had loved her for years but lived too far away to see her perform. I was thrilled when she came to my town to give a recital.
I had a seat in the first row. The problem was her voice was so big and loud that it kept hitting my ear drums. It was so uncomfortable that I was actually happy when the recital ended. I did stay after the show to get her autograph--and she said, "My, what a handsome young man you are!" I still love that memory
by Anonymous | reply 28 | December 6, 2021 8:34 PM |
Price singing her signature aria, O Patria Mia! from Aida during her televised farewell performance at the MET.
This includes the 4 minute ovation!
PBS watchers rank this as the greatest PBS moment ever
by Anonymous | reply 29 | December 6, 2021 8:44 PM |
She's amazing in that video! I remember watching it live and in awe of how great she sounded, even at age 65 i believe. She handles the ovation like the true diva she is--trying to stay in character and then finally bowing her head, knowing this would be the last time she sings her greatest role.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | December 6, 2021 8:46 PM |
Anna Deveare Smith interviewed her for "Twilight Los Angeles", and her brief moment in the play is stunning. (she was stuck in LA during the riots.) Talks about what the LA riots would sound like if they were set to music.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | December 6, 2021 8:50 PM |
Whoops! What I said is pure bullshit. It was Jessye Norman interviewed for "Twilight Los Angeles". My bad.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | December 6, 2021 8:51 PM |
A friend and I saw her in recital in Boston at Symphony Hall in the '90s. My friend would sometimes dress flamboyantly in those days and on that particular day he was wearing a big hoop earring in each ear. We met her backstage and she grabbed both of his earrings and said, "I'm crazy about these!"
by Anonymous | reply 33 | December 6, 2021 8:51 PM |
Is there a book on her? Hopefully one comes out before she passes away.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | December 6, 2021 9:21 PM |
OP, learn English.
Even Miss Price is not a "tour de force." Performances and tornadoes are tours de force.
I question whether she even was a "force of nature" "a force to be reckoned with."
And as far as declaring her to be "one of the first African Americans opera singers to be a star," please learn something about opera. Camilla Williams, Marian Anderson, Mattiwilda Dobbs, Sissieretta Jones, Caterina Jarboro, William Warfield, Todd Duncan, Anne Brown, and Lillian Evanti. among others. Their careers predated Miss Price's.
She did, of course, have a magnificent instrument that many enjoyed over the voices of others, and was the first woman of color to perform in a leading role in La Scala, being an enormous - historic - sensation. She has been inspirational and has had a commanding personality.
But to reduce her to the "first this" or the "first that" is, unfortunately, the tokenism of an unserious mind, an ignorant mind, or the sort of person who refers to posters here as "eldergays."
by Anonymous | reply 35 | December 6, 2021 10:10 PM |
[quote] And as far as declaring her to be "one of the first African Americans opera singers to be a star," please learn something about opera. Camilla Williams, Marian Anderson, Mattiwilda Dobbs, Sissieretta Jones, Caterina Jarboro, William Warfield, Todd Duncan, Anne Brown, and Lillian Evanti. among others. Their careers predated Miss Price's.
Yes. they were stars, but none had the exposure and hit the heights of operatic superstardom that Price had. No, she was not the first black operatic star, but she the first black operatic superstar
by Anonymous | reply 36 | December 6, 2021 10:14 PM |
[quote] Is there a book on her? Hopefully one comes out before she passes away.
Can you believe it--no, no professionally written biography of her exists. There is one written of the early days of her career by an amateur writer that's terribly edited, but it exists.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | December 6, 2021 10:15 PM |
R38, comes across as a very fun person
by Anonymous | reply 39 | December 6, 2021 10:28 PM |
Mary Opera Queen Miss R35 has stated her very firm boundaries!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | December 6, 2021 10:51 PM |
While Price wasn’t the first black singer on the MET stage, she was the first to have a long sustained operatic career. Nearly every black opera singer (and many white ones too) credit her for inspiring them
by Anonymous | reply 41 | December 6, 2021 11:01 PM |
I hear a biopic is in the works that would finally allow Julia Roberts to show off her singing voice.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | December 6, 2021 11:08 PM |
In its 20 Greatest Sopranos Of All Time list, Classical Music magazine listed Price as number 4
by Anonymous | reply 43 | December 6, 2021 11:11 PM |
R13 Her gospel roots show a bit when singing this spiritual, especially at 1:17, when her "ride on" sounds like a bassy "right on!"
Added bonus: The bouncy pianist and his devoted page-turner.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | December 6, 2021 11:13 PM |
She want not particularly adventurous with repertoire. She stuck to the operas she excelled in and didn’t try new stuff. But when she excelled, she was among the best in the world.
I still love her recordings of Carmen, Butterfly, Verdi heroines in Trovatore, Aida, Ernani, Ballo, the most of any soprano
by Anonymous | reply 45 | December 6, 2021 11:14 PM |
Where can we hear her at her best?
In which aria?
by Anonymous | reply 46 | December 6, 2021 11:15 PM |
R44, she was accused to putting too much Aretha Franklin in opera, but that how she spiced up opera.
She knew exactly what to do to heighten dramatic effect when singing an aria. She always started low and slow and built up to a shattering conclusion
by Anonymous | reply 47 | December 6, 2021 11:16 PM |
Beautiful, lush voice; WORST diction of any major singer, male or female. Can’t understand a word she sings; she just makes beautiful sounds.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | December 6, 2021 11:17 PM |
R46, her stunning upper register is displayed in this Doretta’s song—she never sang the role on stage but sang this aria a lot in concert
by Anonymous | reply 49 | December 6, 2021 11:18 PM |
R48, her diction in English arias however was excellent and crisp
by Anonymous | reply 50 | December 6, 2021 11:18 PM |
R49 Puccini was a genius. I know people gripe about him suggesting this song was just like chocolate.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | December 6, 2021 11:20 PM |
This aria from Puccini’s Edgar will blow you away, especially as the ramps up the sound and urgency at the very end
by Anonymous | reply 52 | December 6, 2021 11:20 PM |
Her BLACKGLAMA ad is beyond bewitching…..if I knew how to post photos here. I would post it
by Anonymous | reply 53 | December 6, 2021 11:21 PM |
Dramatic urgency in Strauss’ Egyptian Helen
by Anonymous | reply 54 | December 6, 2021 11:22 PM |
The subject of one of my favorite Sondheim rhymes:
"We'll get Leontyne Price to sing her
Medley from Meistersinger"
(From "Bobby and Jackie and Jack," -- "Merrily We Roll Along.")
by Anonymous | reply 55 | December 6, 2021 11:22 PM |
NO ONE sings Verdi’s Pace Mio Dio (from La Forza) like Price!
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 6, 2021 11:24 PM |
Price came along at that short time when opera singers were part of the popular culture. She,Beverly Sills, Roberta Peters, Joan Sutherland, etc, were all household names
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 6, 2021 11:25 PM |
[quote] ramps up the sound and urgency at the very end
Puccini was superb at building to a climax.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 6, 2021 11:27 PM |
Here’s a funny story I have about Price.
Growing up, there was a nice black family who lived in the neighborhood, I was good friends with the kids and we’d hang out at each other’s houses a lot, the grandma lived with them and was a little demented.
Every time a Black female singer showed up on TV, no matter what she was singing, the grandma would yell out “Is that Leontyne Price”??!!
by Anonymous | reply 59 | December 6, 2021 11:28 PM |
[Quote]Her BLACKGLAMA ad is beyond bewitching…..if I knew how to post photos here. I would post it
Here you are, r53.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 6, 2021 11:28 PM |
R58, you are right and Price was expert at displaying it for what it was worth (again, that gospel background). I would be surprised whenever other singers would just sing the arias limply without taking advantage of the support Puccini provided.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 6, 2021 11:29 PM |
R56, that last Maledizione! Is everything! I wonder how it’s actually written because some singers put it in to great dramatic effects while others don’t,
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 6, 2021 11:31 PM |
[quote] She,Beverly Sills, Roberta Peters, Joan Sutherland, etc, were all household names
R57 Are you saying that because they appeared on The Dinah Shore TV Show?
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 6, 2021 11:55 PM |
r6 / OP That was my mother's favorite Christmas album, Leontyne and HVK.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 7, 2021 12:07 AM |
R63 that was because of The Bell Telephone Hour and Ed Sullivan.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 7, 2021 12:25 AM |
R66, forgot about the great commercial!! I would try to imitate it all the time.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 7, 2021 2:44 PM |
I believe if you were a gaybee in the eighties you had to
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 7, 2021 6:17 PM |
Weren’t there rumors of lesbianism? (Yes, she was once married to a man). Similar rumors that Tebaldi faced
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 7, 2021 6:19 PM |
she makes the lez-lez only on friday nights
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 7, 2021 6:21 PM |
Yes, R69, at the Datalounge. Though I wouldn't doubt it.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 7, 2021 6:44 PM |
Did she run with Ann B. Davis?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 7, 2021 7:11 PM |
It was criminal they tore down the old Met. I understand they needed new facilities but it was the most beautiful theater in Manhattan and they could have repurposed it. This was the time they tore down the old Penn Station one of the most magnificent buildings in the country.
Bing wanted it torn down because powerful real estate brokers wanted the land and his job depended on it. He would have been fired if it didn't come down. The new house is nice but cold and considering how budget conscious new productions are the extraordinary technical capablities of the house go to waste.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 7, 2021 8:38 PM |
While it was apparently a beautiful theatre, it wasn't a practical theatre--a large portion of seats were partial view, the seats on the rafters with wood without cushions, there is little to no proper backstage space
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 7, 2021 9:13 PM |
Still, there's no excuse for replacing it with a Wallace Harrison marble mausoleum instead of another beautiful theater.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 7, 2021 9:22 PM |
R77, sadly, after selling it, the MET had no say in what it became.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 7, 2021 9:27 PM |
The seats could easily have been restored and partial view eliminated. Tiny backstage areas cause no problems for exceedingly old Broadway theaters and as a concert hall or for dance companies this would not have been an insurmountable problem. NY has lost its 2 most beautiful theaters the Met and Mark Hellinger. Nederlander should have gotten a life sentence.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 7, 2021 9:28 PM |
Price also sang some gorgeous gospel.
Here she is singing "Let Us Break Bread Together"
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 7, 2021 9:28 PM |
She called herself a troubadour for American music.
Listen to Price sing "Give me my robe" from Barber's Antony and Cleopatra
by Anonymous | reply 81 | December 7, 2021 9:31 PM |
r34 is hissing louder and more menacingly than the Snake House at the zoo!
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 7, 2021 9:32 PM |
*Sorry, r34: I meant r35, not you!
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 7, 2021 9:33 PM |
She really did have "the voice of the age," as my old teacher used to call it.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 7, 2021 10:37 PM |
Her recording of Barber’s Hermit Songs makes great winter listening.
by Anonymous | reply 85 | December 7, 2021 11:14 PM |
She was preserved on video in just two complete roles, both live Met telecasts, "Forza" in 1984 and her Met farewell "Aida" in 1985. The "Forza" has long been available on VHS/DVD, but for some reason the famous "Aida" has never been commercially released. It is available to view if you subscribe to Met on Demand, and was shown for free during the Met's nightly free telecasts throughout the covid shutdown.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | December 7, 2021 11:58 PM |
There’s a wonderful video of Karajan conducting the Verdi Requiem where Price is the soprano soloist. Check out her entrance at the 6:00 mark.
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 8, 2021 2:14 AM |
As a kid my parents used to always buy those department stores-sold, annual "A Very Merry Christmas" album series, including one a certain year that had Price's version of "Ave Maria." Still my favorite recorded rendition of it, she is amazing and reminds me of childhood Christmastime whenever I find and hear it again this time of year.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 8, 2021 2:15 AM |
And your point is, R87?
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 8, 2021 2:16 AM |
I dunno, r90. I noticed the title of the thread was *Eldergays, tell me about Leontyne Price* and I thought I'd add some biographical information to...you know...tell the OP something about Leontyne Price. Call me crazy.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 8, 2021 2:25 AM |
I accept you, R87.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | December 8, 2021 2:30 AM |
What other record would feature not only Leontyne, but *also* Miss Lana Cantrell!
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 8, 2021 2:43 AM |
A voice that you can pick out within seconds of hearing it—the mark of a legend
by Anonymous | reply 95 | December 8, 2021 4:15 AM |
Wouldn’t it be amazing to have great composers write for your voice? Barber wrote Antony and Cleopatra for her and Hoiby wrote ‘Songs for Leontyne’
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 8, 2021 4:17 AM |
It's about having a *sound*, r95.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 8, 2021 4:18 AM |
I know most people worship Callas, but Price’s glorious Tosca with Karajan and the WPO is my imprint.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | December 8, 2021 6:26 AM |
I love her recording of Barber’s Knoxville: Summer 1915.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | December 8, 2021 6:29 AM |
I swear this is one of the gayest songs I know.
by Anonymous | reply 101 | December 8, 2021 1:09 PM |
R98, wow, her voice just soars
by Anonymous | reply 102 | December 8, 2021 1:46 PM |
R99, I detest the sound of Callas' voice (There! I said it). Everything sounds like Lady Macbeth to me whenever Callas sings it.
The Price Tosca, Carmen, Butterfly are my go-to's over Callas' classic portrayals.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | December 8, 2021 1:49 PM |
Price sings What I Did for Love from A Chorus Line
She does a good jobs but it's hilarious hearing it sung operatically
by Anonymous | reply 104 | December 8, 2021 1:51 PM |
Always best in Verdi. A couple of notches down on Puccini.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | December 8, 2021 1:57 PM |
I bought everything she recorded- in two box sets. The most glorious female voice in opera of all time- big, rich sound and always staying true to the musical line. Find her interview at the 50 year anniversary be of the Met. Her energy, her humor and infectious love of life and music is life-affirming.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 8, 2021 2:11 PM |
she sounds much more southern now
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 8, 2021 2:21 PM |
Yes, she did have that weird half British accent thing that Black female singers do: Tina Turner, Jessye Norman, etc.--but Price's also included a bot of Southern twang.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 8, 2021 2:35 PM |
Norman REALLY cranked up the odd accent, I believe she was more polyglot than price, that could have been a factor.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | December 8, 2021 2:40 PM |
R103. Yes and no. I think every major soprano has at least one definitive recording that no one else can touch.
Callas has Norma and Madama Butterfly.
Price is Aida and Giulio Cesare
Sutherland has Lucia di Lammermoor and that La Traviata recording with Pavarotti
Schwarzkopf's best is Der Rosenkavalier and all things Strauss.
Montserrat has Turnadot
te Kawana has the divine recording of O mio babbino Caro from Gianni Schicchi
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 8, 2021 3:58 PM |
What recording of Giulio Cesare are you talking about? Perhaps an aria she sang in recital? I only have a live Tu la mia stella sei. As far as I know she sang none of the role in a commercial recording though I would like to find out she did sing some arias. Beverly Sills became very famous for her role of Cleopatra in the NYC Opera production of the opera which was recorded by RCA. It's a wonderful recording except for a fair amount of cuts. Treigle and Forrester are magnificent as well on it. None of them have been surpassed.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | December 8, 2021 4:17 PM |
The silliest singing of a popular song by an opera singer that I've heard is Marilyn Horne singing People on The Odd Couple. Horne is a magnificent singer but it sounds ridiculous.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 8, 2021 4:24 PM |
Price, I believe, sang in Giulio Cesare very early in her career but there is no recording. R110 must mean a specific aria.
It's also odd to rank Caballe's Turandot (live or studio) as most definitive than Sutherland's recording. I'd rank Nilsson's live Turandots the best but don't like how she sounds on records
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 8, 2021 4:33 PM |
R108, Angela Bassett has that weird accent too
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 8, 2021 4:34 PM |
[quote] Always best in Verdi. A couple of notches down on Puccini.
Price only performed a specific group of Verdi--Ernani, Trovatore, La Forza, Aida, Ballo--and yes, she was definitive in each.
I wish she had recording or performed in Otello and Don Carlo--but her recorded arias are gorgeous. Although she didn't sing the coloratura Verdi role, Price recorded a great Caro Nome from Rigoletto (the final note is insane).
by Anonymous | reply 115 | December 8, 2021 4:37 PM |
She didn't have the dramatic bite to challenge the greatest Puccini divas, but she gave them a run for their money. Her recorded Tosca and Butterfly are stunning (as were, from many reports, her staged versions). Same with Liu. She also recorded a great, atmospheric Il Tabarro, based on the production she did in San Francisco.
Infamously, she had to drop out mid performance during Girl of the Golden West, likely because of vocal fatigue from an insane schedule. That said, the reviews from the first performance were glowing--although I can't, for the life of me, understand her in that role.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | December 8, 2021 4:41 PM |
She refused to sing in Otello for whatever reason though she would have been magnificent in it. One of the great might have beens in opera was the fact that Corelli and Price could have at least recorded the opera with Karajan or Solti and it could have been one of the outstanding opera recordings of all time. Corelli was afraid of the role but the excerpts we have of him in it he's magnificent. He said later in life he should have done it. If not on stage at least in the studio as Sutherland did with Turandot.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | December 8, 2021 4:49 PM |
How nice to read a thread with knowledgeable folk and only a few idiots. I love the Previn album; one of the few "crossover" recordings where the opera singer doesn't condescend to the songs. And the arrangements are deluxe. Agree about the Knoxville Summer of 1915. And so many other records: her Prima Donna albums are supreme; her O Holy Night is transcendent; and her Porgy and Bess selections (with her ex-husband) is my favorite, since she sings all the female roles! Thanks for starting this, OP. Proud to be an eldergay if it means having lived through her greatest years.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | December 8, 2021 5:12 PM |
J'adore her in Julia.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | December 8, 2021 5:27 PM |
R119, have never seen that!!
by Anonymous | reply 122 | December 8, 2021 5:28 PM |
I have the box set of her non opera albums and I was surprised at how much I liked Right as Rain. I usually don't like crossover as it can sound exaggerated. I hope I can find her Christmas album with Karajan in my piles of cds before the holiday!
by Anonymous | reply 123 | December 8, 2021 5:29 PM |
[quote] She refused to sing in Otello for whatever reason though she would have been magnificent in it.
From what I understand, she was supposed to sing in the recording with Domingo but Domingo used his power to get Price off the recording and insert Scotto. While I usually enjoy Scotto, she sounds matronly as Desdemona on it.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | December 8, 2021 5:30 PM |
She sang with Domingo on recordings a number of times so that's surprising. As well who would want to hear Scotto over Price?
by Anonymous | reply 125 | December 8, 2021 5:34 PM |
Price recordings a lush, emotional experiences. Scotto is excellent with drama, but sometimes I don't need my hair to stand up on end
by Anonymous | reply 126 | December 8, 2021 5:35 PM |
For r122…when EBONY Magazine launched their cosmetics line, they used several prominent black women to promote their products. I think that my mom knew that I was gay because I would take all of the EBONY magazines and open them up to the Fashion Fair ads and spread them out on the living room floor. Parents were NOT happy.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | December 8, 2021 5:36 PM |
The only Scotto recording I keep going back to the Nabucco, the one she sounds most squally. The screaming make the most sense on that one.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | December 8, 2021 5:36 PM |
Yes Eileen was terrific but one of the very few.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | December 8, 2021 5:42 PM |
I've avoided that Nabucco but you make me now want to hear it.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | December 8, 2021 5:43 PM |
1980 Kennedy Center Honors recipients: James Cagney, Leontyne Price, Leonard Bernstein, Lynn Fontanne and Agnes de Mille.
by Anonymous | reply 132 | December 8, 2021 5:46 PM |
R131, you should definitely listen to it. Scotto is dramatically in the moment, as always. It shreds her voice as she's singing it, but it's glorious.
by Anonymous | reply 133 | December 8, 2021 5:47 PM |
r132, Where's LL Cool Jay?
by Anonymous | reply 134 | December 8, 2021 5:49 PM |
Now *that* was a line-up, r132.
by Anonymous | reply 135 | December 8, 2021 5:50 PM |
Didn’t Placido and Leontyne get along?
by Anonymous | reply 137 | December 8, 2021 5:57 PM |
They must have as they sang so many recordings together--including one of the most beautiful duets albums ever recorded. I guess Domingo thought he wanted someone more dramatically alive for the Otello--who knows.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | December 8, 2021 6:09 PM |
R98 That was sublime.
by Anonymous | reply 139 | December 8, 2021 8:51 PM |
I will always love her for coming out of retirement on Sept 30, 2001, after Sept 11, to sing two songs at a Remembrance Concert at Carnegie Hall. Tickets were free and we lined up that morning to get them at the box office.
She sang This Little Light of Mine and American the Beautiful. She was in her 70's but those high notes were there, as solid and powerful as ever. Her songs FINALLY made me feel that everything would be ok.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | December 8, 2021 9:05 PM |
I thought she sang The Battle Hymn of the Republic and there wasn't a dry eye in the house. Maybe that was a different concert?
by Anonymous | reply 141 | December 8, 2021 9:12 PM |
[quote] it sounds ridiculous.
And it's vulgar. Marilyn and other genuine opera stars should stay in their own genre.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | December 8, 2021 9:13 PM |
R140, I stand corrected. Both Wikipedia and a review in the NY Times say she sang This Little Light of Mine and America the Beautiful.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | December 8, 2021 9:22 PM |
Towards the end everytime Scotto sang it was like she was shredding her voice and there was nothing left. Yet at the next performance she'd do it all over again sounding exactly the same. I listened to her last Met performance or at least it was her last matinee Texaco performance where she sang Butterfly. It was the same shredded painful to listen to voice but she was as dramatically compelling as ever.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | December 8, 2021 9:24 PM |
I agree many if not most opera singers fare poorly at crossover singing but Eileen Ferrell and Dawn Upshaw were notable exceptions.
by Anonymous | reply 145 | December 8, 2021 9:25 PM |
^
Was she as shredded as Callas?
by Anonymous | reply 146 | December 8, 2021 9:25 PM |
Kiri also had a good crossover album. She doesn't sing at all operatically
by Anonymous | reply 147 | December 8, 2021 9:27 PM |
Scotto still had a major career long after her voice was in tatters because James Levine adored her sense of Italianate style and her idiomatic way of singing the big showy Italian diva roles. In that he was right. But in ignoring her vocal problems he was wrong.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | December 8, 2021 9:29 PM |
Getting off topic, but here's Eileen Ferrell, Marilyn Horne and Carol Burnett singing Hey, Big Spender on Carol's variety show.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | December 8, 2021 9:49 PM |
[quote] Marilyn Horne and Carol Burnett
Cringing, vulgar, tacky.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | December 8, 2021 9:53 PM |
A big thanks to the OP for starting this thread, I have enjoyed listening to her music clips and viewing her pictures from fashion fair, she has a beautiful voice and face.
by Anonymous | reply 151 | December 8, 2021 10:11 PM |
Queen!
by Anonymous | reply 153 | December 9, 2021 1:45 AM |
Who is the next Price or Norman?
by Anonymous | reply 154 | December 9, 2021 1:47 AM |
Op R110: Schwartzkopf is magnificent with Mozart
by Anonymous | reply 155 | December 9, 2021 1:51 AM |
R154 No one. That's it. Forever.
The world has changed too much for those gifts to be nurtured and to grow. And there is no longer the audience. Look at NY. It is down to one main opera company and it gives only about half the number of performances per season as it once gave. It is closed for the entire month of February. That's very bad. And it was this way before covid.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | December 9, 2021 2:31 AM |
I was just looking at her discography on Amazon. She was an amazingly prolific recording artist
by Anonymous | reply 157 | December 9, 2021 4:13 AM |
R156, I truly believe opera will die within a generation or two. The younger generation just doesn’t feel any connection to opera whatsoever. The opera world has done little to cultivate younger audiences
by Anonymous | reply 158 | December 9, 2021 4:14 AM |
R156, R158. I am not so pessimistic. I know a lot of gaylings that are into opera.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | December 9, 2021 12:09 PM |
[quote]She didn't have the dramatic bite to challenge the greatest Puccini divas, but she gave them a run for their money.
I completely agree. She is brilliant with Verdi but not quite there with Puccini.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | December 9, 2021 12:39 PM |
Who wrote that list R43? Ponselle at 19? Flagstad out of the top 3? What a waste of ink.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | December 9, 2021 1:19 PM |
bitches are gonna bitch
by Anonymous | reply 162 | December 9, 2021 2:27 PM |
Nope it's dying. All you have to do is look at ticket sales in the US. You can ignore it all you want to but it doesn't change a thing. The NY City Opera is dead as a doornail. There used to be such a thing called 'popular prices,' which I'm sure you never heard of, which were touted as the pricing of the City Opera and the City Ballet- the regular NYers arts companies. And the Met is hanging on by a thread. As opposed to the completely insane amounts of money people pay for pop concerts and sporting events. You don't even have the donors you once did who supported the arts. Their billionaire tech fortunes go for god knows what but it sure isn't for the arts the way millionaires used to support them when I was a kid. I could go several times a week and on a book store clerk's salary and I would see the greatest artists in the world. Now those artists don't even exist. Yeah some are really good but I know of none who transport you the way they once did where you left the theater in a daze of disbelief. I was in those audiences who wouldn't let artists go home and the ovations would go on and on. And just scrambling for a ticket was a major endeavor and it would get to the point where you were desperate to be anywhere in the house you just needed to get in and a partial view was a golden ticket. Yes the excitement was extraordinary.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | December 9, 2021 4:27 PM |
I share your concerns R163. In New York, the older (mostly Jewish) audience that was supporting the Met is dying off or was too scared by COVID. In Vienna, the State Opera is doing OK. It’s subsidized, of course. But I believe Opera will come back. It’s too good. Maybe I am whistling in the dark..
by Anonymous | reply 164 | December 9, 2021 7:49 PM |
I know a lot of younger professionals who enjoy opera. Doctors, lawyers, stock brokers, CPA's, dentists, etc.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | December 9, 2021 8:33 PM |
Most young people whom I know go to the opera tend to go to the La Bohemes and Carmens in the Park-type events. I did see alot at The MET's Akhenaten. I'm not sure this is translating into general opera going.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | December 9, 2021 8:39 PM |
[quote] She is brilliant with Verdi but not quite there with Puccini.
Sometimes you just want to lay back and hear a gorgeous voice wash over you. This is exactly what Price provides. Do I need every dramatic insight displayed in vivid color constantly--NO. Price does enough.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | December 9, 2021 8:44 PM |
Going to the opera is too much. It’s too intense. I want to see a show that has some operatic elements, but 3 straight hours of listening to that type of intense singing and constant emotional turmoil is an assault on the senses. I can’t handle it. I do enjoy listening to an occasional aria here and there.
by Anonymous | reply 168 | December 9, 2021 9:10 PM |
“She is brilliant with Verdi but not quite there with Puccini.”
This is over my head, can someone explain?
by Anonymous | reply 169 | December 9, 2021 9:11 PM |
I went to see Denyce Graves in [italic]Cosi von Tutti[/italic] (sp?) , back in the 90’s. At a theater in Philadelphia, nosebleed seats. I was so uncomfortable sitting with the wooden railing pressing into my knees I had to leave. And at that distance it was impossible to follow the story.
by Anonymous | reply 170 | December 9, 2021 9:39 PM |
cost fan tutte
by Anonymous | reply 171 | December 10, 2021 12:27 AM |
Cosi is a small opera. Even the Met is too big for it. How I would have loved for some of the houses on 42nd Street to have been converted to present some of the operas with smaller casts along with some operetta and Gilbert and Sullivan.
by Anonymous | reply 172 | December 10, 2021 12:29 AM |
I was watching this episode of American Pickers (circa 2014) at the Tabor Opera House in Leadville, CO. Apparently they were going to tear it down for a parking lot before these people got it but they were worried about saving it. It was built in 1879. I've seen a few things at the Central City Opera House (also CO) and it was built in 1878. Those mining towns in the Rockies had to have an opera house to show they had culture.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | December 10, 2021 1:14 AM |
[quote] In New York, the older (mostly Jewish) audience that was supporting the Met is dying off or was too scared by COVID.
They went to Florida. Then they died.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | December 10, 2021 1:32 AM |
R168, this is why I sometimes wish they would just show “highlights of the opera.” Three hours can drone
by Anonymous | reply 175 | December 10, 2021 3:43 AM |
R169, Verdi has some very jagged lines that ultimate form an arc of sound—it requires an special ability to navigate that by having the right notes, volume, and ability to breathe properly. Puccini demands stronger pressure on the vocal cords to express drama and emotion.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | December 10, 2021 3:46 AM |
Has Shakespeare waned at all?
by Anonymous | reply 177 | December 10, 2021 3:48 AM |
To add my two cents to R176, Verdi and Puccini are from different eras and their associated styles suit different voices. I find Verdi quite dynamic and his scores tend to provide a lot of direction to the singer, so a fabulous vocal instrument is well supported in interpretation. Puccini is a lot freer and more subtle so the singer has to bring in a lot of passion and emotion to really shine. Price is great in both, but much better in Verdi. I much prefer Callas in Puccini.
by Anonymous | reply 178 | December 10, 2021 12:28 PM |
Shakespearean acting needs years of classical training a classically trained singer comparably goes through and which most actors who attempt it don't have which makes it agony to sit through. The words turn to ash in their mouths. I gave up on it a long time ago and the only great production I've seen of a Shakespeare play was Ingmar Bergman's The Winter's Tale out in Brooklyn.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | December 10, 2021 12:35 PM |
r173 I don't think the use of the name "opera house" necessarily indicates they featured opera performances on a regular basis. It seems to me that it was just a generic term for a theater nad was perhaps used because it sounded "classy."
by Anonymous | reply 180 | December 10, 2021 2:19 PM |
I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, r180.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | December 10, 2021 3:15 PM |
R179 I agree, but the greats are untouchable. Instead of Callas, Pavarotti, Domingo, and Price you have Mirren, Olivier, Gielgud, and Smith.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | December 10, 2021 6:42 PM |
Back in the '60s a music teacher at my school came back from a trip to New York just raving over this brilliant new soprano he'd heard at the Met. He said to remember her name because he was sure she would become very famous: LAY-on-TEE-neh PREE-cheh, with a rolled "r."
by Anonymous | reply 183 | December 10, 2021 6:47 PM |
This must have been the very early 60s because she made a sensation at her Met debut in January of '61. It was in the same performance of the great Italian tenor Franco Corelli's Met debut. She stole the performance and I believe he said something to the effect that he never wanted to sing with her again. Of course they sang together again and a friend swears by their recording of Carmen which he considers one of the greats.
by Anonymous | reply 184 | December 10, 2021 7:16 PM |
Years before her Met debut, Price had been seen nationally in the title role of NBC Opera's "Tosca" in 1955. A kinescope of this performance exists.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | December 10, 2021 7:24 PM |
Yes, she was well known in musical circles and made a lot of TV appearances in the late 50s and early 60s. But she didn't become a household name until she started singing at the Met with the attention that brought.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | December 10, 2021 7:28 PM |
I believe she and Corelli still hold the MET applause record at 42 minutes after their 1962 joint debut in Il Trovatore.
R184, I’d never heard that Corelli didn’t want to sing. with Price after the success. I did hear of his rivalry with Brigit Nilsson and that he refused to sing after she held the climactic note in Turandot longer than him. The MET general manager had to go backstage and caress his ego to get him to return for the next act
by Anonymous | reply 187 | December 11, 2021 2:46 AM |
With the right conductors, Price did some admirable work with dramatic roles—Karajan really brought the best out with her superlative Tosca and Carmen.
Most Verdi doesn’t require that kind of snarling drama. Verdi relies more on broad emotions and Price is extremely good at turning on whatever vocal color is needed.
by Anonymous | reply 188 | December 11, 2021 2:11 PM |
I love her vocal phrases—How long she holds notes, where she takes breaths.
Listen to her O Patria Mia from the televised MET Aida. The phrasing is just extraordinary—crisp, direct
by Anonymous | reply 189 | December 11, 2021 2:13 PM |
In 1962 Leontyne bought a three-story town house at 9 Van Dam Street. There until she moved to Maryland. House was sold in 2013,
by Anonymous | reply 190 | December 11, 2021 2:24 PM |
It was in that house, on her kitchen table, that Barber wrote much of Antony and Cleopatra
by Anonymous | reply 191 | December 11, 2021 2:31 PM |
Her AIDA in 1985 is probably one of the best recorded operas of all time.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | January 30, 2022 9:51 PM |
Extravagance and beauty
by Anonymous | reply 193 | January 30, 2022 9:56 PM |
LEONTYNE PRICE is AIDA
Conducted by James Levine
Also starring James McCracken, Fiorenza Cossotto, John Macurdy, and Simon Estes
Directed by John Dexter
by Anonymous | reply 194 | January 7, 2023 10:17 PM |