How was Warren Beatty able to escape #MeToo?

I also wonder the same about Jack Nicholson.

Could it be -shudder- that they actually got consent from all the women they slept with?

Just a side note: Has anyone else noticed that it's rare for someone to claim they were forced by someone considered sexually desirable? Saying your fucked Beatty or Nicholson would be a badge of honor for most of us. But maybe they are creeps who have raped women over the years, and those women are too afraid to speak up because they feel no one would believe them -obviously those guys could get so many women so easily...

R2 I get what you’re saying but it’s not rare. See: Kobe Bryant

I don't think being a slut is worthy of a MeToo.

Nicholson is a big ? for me though, not just because of his close association with Polanski, but his multiple court cases over beating hookers.

R4 “his multiple court cases over beating hookers”

Whut really?

They're both ancient now and have been more or less out of the public eye for quite a awhile. They're too old and out of date for the Twitter mob to care about.

Beatty was a major manwhore who would fuck just about any woman with a willing vagina, but from all account've heard, it was all consensual. No harassing or "if you fuck me, you'll get a part in this movie."

There have been quite a few recent "desireable" stars who have been accused: Ansel Elgort, Justin Bieber, that Game of Thrones (?) Scandinavian...

R6 The same could be said about Dustin Hoffman, but that didn’t stop women from coming forward about him.

As well as Armie Hammer…

If you are famous, especially for your looks, you will have more than the usual share of women open to the idea of sleeping with you. If a guy like that is instead hurting and forcing women, he’s especially creepy.

I don’t think Beatty sexually assaulted anyone fwiw, but with his playboy reputation I’m surprised he was unscathed by the #MeToo movement.

I may do so.

R12 I’m sure she’s one of the 1000 women he had sex with.

Being promiscuous as an incredibly handsome man doesn't make you a sexual abuser. Maybe he was respectful to the women he was with? Unlike Brando who was a pig. Brando is lucky by the virtue of the period he lived in. I don't like this era of sex negativity and making unpleasant hookups into sexual harassment. Relationships involve both parties.

Also was Warren 100% hetero though? I just find it hard to believe he never sucked or touched a dick at least once in his life. And it's not just because he's goodlooking.

R9, Dustin Hoffman was called out for harassing and fondling powerless women on stage and in his movies. He also got pervy with his daughter's 14 year old friend. Real scum, I'm surprised people still hire him.

Miriam Margolyes was asked about the #metoo movement on a UK chat show and discussed how Warren Beatty had propositioned her on the set of Reds and how she'd dealt with him, dismissing women who had been victims because they should have dealt with predatory men who propositioned them in the same way.

She tells so many amazing stories I wonder how many are total bullshit and how many are embellished beyond recognition.

I actually cried when I read the woman who was with him in Death of a Salesman's account of what Hoffman did to her. It was a dream for her to get that part. He turned it into the worst experience of her life. She BEGGED him to stop. Begged him. It was like he couldn't hear her. Just terrible.

There's a lot of sex negativity now. Sex between consenting adults is not all gumdrops and flowers. It has consequences. Things can go wrong and experiences sour. But painting every bad hookup experience as harassment is ridiculous.

"I actually cried when I read the woman who was with him in Death of a Salesman's account of what Hoffman did to her."

And what about that one in the recording booth? NIGHTMARE FUEL.

R18 = doesn't get it

I have a theory as to why people let Dustin's behavior slide...it's because he's hideous and people, mainly men, sympathize with his inability to attract pretty young women without resorting to force. Same for Roman Polanski.

R21, Hoffman was a womanizer in the traditional sense too, before and after becoming famous and got plenty of beautiful women. He even cheated relentlessly in his pretty first wife -

There's an element of tolerating the abusive indulgences of great artistes - the same with sports coaches who get good results - because repulsive behaviour is needed to deliver that great art.

Of course it's possible to create good art and not be an abusive rapey cunt.

R21 Sharon Tate was a beautiful young woman and for whatever reason was in love with Polanski

But she was just one woman R24. Men want to attract many pretty women and if they are unattractive themselves it's harder to do so.

R24 , she was an actress. He was a director. That was enough.

Beatty, Nicholson, and Robert Evans were running dogs for years. And they all escaped the pointing fingers. Well, there was that Sharon Stone thing about Evans chaining women up in the basement or something. But he shook it off.

Phew.

Dustin Hoffman IS hideous. I watched Tootsie for the first time recently. There's a part where he's in his underwear and he had the body of someone 50 years older.

Sharon Stone is a supreme bullshitter, and nothing she says has an ounce of truth imho.

I don't think Beatty was a predator. I think he enjoyed seducing women but I don't think he forced them into bed.

Miriam Margoyles as referenced above spurned his advances during an interview for a part in Reds (and it was conducted in his trailer) and she still got the part.

He's a creep to quiz Margolyes like that.

[quote]that Game of Thrones (?) Scandinavian...

Nikolaj Coster-Waldau?

See R6.

[quote]I don't think Beatty was a predator.

He was a predator, he admitted he was a predator. I'll guess he wasn't obnoxious about it and took rejection gracefully.

Also Beatty got married in the 90s right? Seems like he was out of commission (assuming he’s stayed faithful) for some time now, so his accusers would be from the 80s and much earlier. Not sure if that group of women are really into speaking out on social media. They would be in their 50s and older.

Or he just got consent and there wasn’t an issue.

Beatty had a relationship with Halle Berry. He was who she called after her hit and run incident.

Wow, really, R37? I never heard of them hooking up.

Beatty was handsome, intelligent, powerful - kind of the King of Hollywood from the late 60s to the early 80s. I doubt he got many no’s.

R37, as he got older, Beatty took what was readily available - co-stars. Halle, Diane Keaton, Madonna. I found it kind of pathetic.

R39, when a 50+ year old, no matter who he is, hits on women half his age, he's bound to get some "nos."

Seems he was boringly straight. Shame those beautiful lips of his weren't put to good use. Brando at least gave out blowjobs.

Big Dick

Beautiful?! Fish lips!

I've read suggestions that Beatty shared his special charms with Tennessee Williams to win the part in 'The Roman Spring of Mrs Stone.'

Never fuck the writer!

They made Bulwoth (sp?) together in the late nineties, r38. He was married to Bening by then, but l don't think that he was faithful to her by any stretch of the imagination. Sex addicts don't stop.

Some men like him reach a certain age and realize that they need progeny. Clooney did it. (but his motives were a little mixed, right?)

R44, I thought that was William Inge for Beatty's first film, Splendor in the Grass (1961). By the time of The Roman Spring of Mrs Stone, Beatty didn't have to beg for anything.

Beatty has always been gorgeous. Few people would have turned him down.

He probably didn't need to force himself on anyone.

Gotta love Jane...

Wonder if madge was to much for poor ol b?

Warren has a soft spoken, almost feminine demeanor. Women like that shit far better than brutes.

I can't imagine Joanie Saintangelo enjoying a femme boyfriend.

I think Beatty's beauty peaked in the 60s when he was Diet James Dean. Paul Newman was hotter for a longer period of time.

For such a ladies man I don’t really hear women gush about Beatty in his prime. Not like they do with Redford.

R53, Redford was handsome but sexless. That may have been his appeal - the perfect looking movie star anyone could project their fantasies on.

I watched Heaven Can Wait the other night and I found Warren - who I typically don't fancy - very handsome and very sexy in it. The way he pined over Julie Christie was very affecting.

[quote] he admitted he was a predator.

Source?

R54 I actually think Beatty is the sexless one. I recently watched him in Shampoo and his screen presence was rather bland.

R52 I have to agree. Beatty had a lot of sex appeal in Splendor in the Grass but it’s missing in his later roles.

"Let's face it, I fucked 'em all. I mean, that's what I do. That's why I went to beauty school. I mean, they're always there and I-I just can't I-I, you know, I - I don't know what I'm apologizing for. So, sometimes I fuck 'em. I go into that shop and they're so great lookin', you know, and I - I doing their hair and they feel great and they smell great. Or, I could be out on the street, you know, and I could just stop at a stoplight or go into an elevator or - I - it's a beautiful girl - I - I don't know - I mean, that's it! It makes my day. I mean, it makes me feel like I'm gonna live forever."

Warren Beatty knew how to seduce women. And he was a gentleman and a great listener. I don't think that Jack Nicholson was in the same league.

What did Beatty see in Joan Collins? It wasn't like she was even particularly hot in terms of her career.

Even though he got around I think that he wasn't predatory. He's a rare breed in that regard because his bedpost probably ran out of room for his notches at some point. I also don't think he was one for drugs or underage ladies. Of course I could be dead wrong.

I read the unauthorized biography on him. Reading fluff sometimes is a fun way to practice my English literacy skills since it's not my first language. There's a lot of tales about how he genuinely appreciated a very wide variety of ladies almost compulsively but seemingly knew how to take "no" for an answer because he would just move onto another lady.

The best tale I read was when he called a lady he knew who had fallen ill with cancer and had a mastectomy. She confided in him that she felt as though her husband no longer found her attractive and Beatty said words to the effect of that if she wanted he would fly out to her and make love to her himself. I like that.

[quote]What did Beatty see in Joan Collins?

She was five years older and a slut. All young 24 year old straight guys go for that.

I’m pretty sure Warren never had to resort to that kind of manipulation.

[Quote] She was five years older and a slut. All young 24 year old straight guys go for that.

But they were a couple. He didn't just fuck her.

Colin Farrell was infamous in the 2000s for fucking everyone and apparently would give charity fucks to old ladies or ugly girls because he was so horny. But I don't recall any sexual harassment stories from him. He always seemed like a very nice and gentle person which could be why.

There was no Me too in his time.

He was hot and they usually don't need to push women to have sex, they are more than willing. To be a man whore is not #metoo material if is consensual.

No one is really interested in Warren Beatty anymore.

There are straight men who just like sex and don’t mind how they get it or how the woman feels about it. Then there are the (rarer, in my experience) straight men who genuinely like women as people and also like sex. My guess is Beatty is the latter. These women may have just been in his bed for an hour, but they didn’t leave feeling like dog shit.

And certainly his reputation preceded him. I don't think women had sex with him expecting love and romance or anything more than a hook up. And women a relationship with him probably didn't expect fidelity.

This victimhood mentality is beyond the pale. Babies babies everywhere . And who screams the loudest seems to win. Its disgusting.

He treated women with respect.

Agree R70. I know a guy just like that.

Seems to me he wasn't rapey. He was upfront about his desires and never pushed it (or was punitive) if a lady turned him down.