That would include the original Dickens novella.
Your favorite version of "A Christmas Carol"
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 25, 2021 3:27 PM |
For nostalgic reasons, I love Chuck Jones's 1971 animated version.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 29, 2021 6:13 PM |
Always Alistair Sim.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 29, 2021 6:24 PM |
Mr. Magoo. Seriously.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 29, 2021 6:27 PM |
Is this the Florence Henderson special?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 29, 2021 6:29 PM |
"Scrooge" with Albert Finney
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 29, 2021 6:41 PM |
FX's A Christmas Carol with Guy Pearce.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 29, 2021 6:45 PM |
Mr. Magoo also.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 29, 2021 6:48 PM |
The 1984 version with George C. Scott.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 29, 2021 7:41 PM |
thanks for posting that, r1. I didn't know about it, look forward to watching
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 29, 2021 7:43 PM |
Scrooge
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 29, 2021 7:48 PM |
The 1999 version with Patrick Stewart is pretty good.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 29, 2021 7:52 PM |
Another vote for Alistair Sim, Mr. Magoo & the Muppets Christmas Carol. The one with George C. Scott was not too bad & I do like the Albert Finney musical.
I actually just listened to ACC on Audible - the version read by Tim Curry is very good by the way - and I was struck by how horrified everyone is by Scrooge, but he'd have fit right in with the Fox News crowd.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 29, 2021 8:32 PM |
Editorial note: do you read Scrooge as a thinly disguised jew? Given the heavy handed "conversion" theme in Christmas Carol, I kept wondering if conversion of jews is what Dickens had in mind.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 29, 2021 8:34 PM |
No, I don't.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 29, 2021 8:38 PM |
The Muppets Christmas Carol is the most fun. Michael Cain as Scrooge is just inspired casting.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 29, 2021 9:10 PM |
Family Ties "A Keaton Christmas Carol"
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 29, 2021 9:15 PM |
George C. Scott version.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 29, 2021 9:59 PM |
Another fan of the Alistair Sim film -it's really well done and generally more faithful to the original novella.
I loved Patrick Stewart's live, one-man version, but his filmed version pales in comparison.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 29, 2021 10:25 PM |
The Jordan Levine version at MEN.com.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 29, 2021 10:31 PM |
"Scrooge". Terribly underrated, great soundtrack, wonderful songs, good direction/pacing, and a fabulous performance from Finney (and really, everyone else in the film).
by Anonymous | reply 24 | November 29, 2021 10:34 PM |
"Scrooge" (Albert Finney) is free on the Tubi streaming channel until 12/1. Not sure if that'll be extended, or if there are any network or other streaming channel airings this year.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 29, 2021 11:46 PM |
Let us not leave out Scrooged with Bill Murray and the wonderful Carol Kane.
Also, R23 you nasty.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 29, 2021 11:51 PM |
This thread made me order a copy of the novel. I've never actually read it.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 30, 2021 12:13 AM |
Alastair Sim was the definitive Scrooge.
And I do love the MaGoo “Carol.”
I also enjoy yet another version, a 1956 original TV musical starring Frederic March, with a score and songs by none other than Bernard Herrmann.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 30, 2021 12:14 AM |
Another vote for Scrooge with Albert Finley.
I adore this musical number.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 30, 2021 12:24 AM |
^Finney
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 30, 2021 12:25 AM |
Toss up between Scrooge and Mickey’s Christmas Carol.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 30, 2021 12:29 AM |
The George C. Scott version for its screenplay, sets, costumes, location. I like its restraint.
The scene where he is seeing his child self, alone and reading books at Christmas, and says to the Ghost of Christmas Past "He has his friends. Ali Baba, the Sultan's Groom, Robin Crusoe". That's directly from the book and it always gives me a lump in my throat, probably because, I too, as a child fell in love with reading and how characters could be with me...
Actually, I like most of the movie and animated versions of "A Christmas Carol".
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 30, 2021 12:48 AM |
Finney's "Scrooge". And Muppet Christmas Carol. The absolute most fun and Michael Caine is perfect. "Hello London!" "Goodbye lunch" Bliss....
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 30, 2021 12:58 AM |
[quote] I also enjoy yet another version, a 1956 original TV musical starring Frederic March, with a score and songs by none other than Bernard Herrmann.
That version also has 10 year old Bonnie Franklin as one of the Cratchit children.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 30, 2021 1:11 AM |
I'm Christmas Carol'd out.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 30, 2021 1:24 AM |
The Alistair Sim British 1951 version, which I believe is actually entitled "Scrooge," would be mine.
And I always wished that the 1960s' TV "Lost In Space" actor Jonathan Harris had portrayed Ebenezer in a TV adaptation, or something... I think he'd have been a melodramatic hoot.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 30, 2021 1:33 AM |
Spielberg should "remake" THIS!
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 30, 2021 1:34 AM |
Scrooged was always my favorite as a kid although I did enjoy Mickey's Christmas Carol as well. I liked how dark and creepy Scrooged was to my young imagination. It creeped me out and, now, I find it all more amusing and cute than anything else.
The Muppets version is probably my next favorite.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 30, 2021 1:50 AM |
A Diva's Christmas Carol with Vanessa Williams and Kathy Griffin.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 30, 2021 2:28 AM |
A Diva's Christmas Carol was fun
by Anonymous | reply 40 | November 30, 2021 3:12 AM |
As LAME as it is I liked Ebbie. I might have watched it when it was originally shown in 1995 or maybe a few years later.
There was one scene which demonstrated how LOW the production values were. A young Ebbie was asked to a dance when she was a teenager in 1966. A taxi drops her off at the dance. The taxi was an early 80's Chevrolet Malibu ( LAME)
by Anonymous | reply 41 | November 30, 2021 3:14 AM |
Mr. Magoo.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 30, 2021 5:31 AM |
I'm presently reading the novella. It's scary as a really bad acid trip. Scrooge is practically incontinent. It's so sad as he visits his past.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 30, 2021 5:58 AM |
The original story is a masterpiece and one of Dickens' finest moments as a writer. No bloat, no wordy asides. Just a strictly delineated portrait of a man brought back from the brink at the last possible moment.
Adaptations - live-action, Scrooge with Finney is hard to beat - great songs, great energy, great cast and the most oddly gallant and melancholy Tiny Tim. The Magoo version takes top credit, though, and Mickey and the Muppets versions are right behind it.
I was surprised how Miss Piggy managed to make Mrs. Cratchit's scene after the death of Tim so moving while being every inch herself as a personality. It gave me respect for how Henson and his team conceived of her and the other characters as actual actors and actresses.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 30, 2021 6:54 AM |
There's a wonderful audio book adaptation narrated by the equally wonderful Tim Curry, for those of you who have never read the book and would like to. It's a pleasure to listen to and just a couple of hours long. Perfect for a holiday car ride to visit family.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 30, 2021 7:21 AM |
R47- Something about Miss Piggy always reminded me of Barbara Streisand.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 30, 2021 3:12 PM |
1938 version.
Should have been a Sir Reginald Owen
The Lockhart Fmaily- Gene, Kathleen, and June Lockhart
Gayboi Terry Kilburn
I wish he was a Gayboi Barry MacKay
Beautiful Ann Rutherford
British Bear Lionel Braham
Lawyer/actor Darcy Corrgian
and the Always Creepy as Hell Leo G. Carroll
by Anonymous | reply 50 | November 30, 2021 7:46 PM |
^ Terry Kilburn is still with us, and just turned 95 last week.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | November 30, 2021 8:02 PM |
R51 He was a gayboi as a kid. lol
by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 30, 2021 8:08 PM |
The 1951 film, Scrooge, with Alastair Simm is the best version. It’s perfection.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | November 30, 2021 8:14 PM |
Mickeys Christmas Carol, of course.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | November 30, 2021 8:29 PM |
This thread is why i keep coming back to Datalounge.
I've spent decades collecting as many versions of this story as I could. Love them all.
Except that Kelsey Grammer TV musical version. Absolute shit.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | December 2, 2021 9:24 PM |
Anyone remember An American Christmas Carol with Henry Winkler? My brother got to meet him while they were filming in our city.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | December 2, 2021 9:27 PM |
"A Christmas Cheryl," with Cheryl Scrooge gassing Tiny Tim to death with her noxious fumes.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | December 2, 2021 9:28 PM |
I saw Terence Kilburn play Scrooge at the Meadowbrook Theater at Oakland University in Rochester, MI. It was a very good production but I had to tell the people sitting in front of me to shut the fuck up. I guess they were all atwitter at being in the presence of a real Hollywood star.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | December 2, 2021 9:47 PM |
[quote] "Scrooge" with Albert Finney
I just found out this was a movie musical first, and a stage musical later. (I’d thought it was like Oliver!, a play first and a movie later.]
The movie was made in 1970, starring Albert Finney. The stage version opened in Birmingham in 1992 with Anthony Newley in the lead role. It was revived the following year with the same cast in Plymouth. It was produced in London with Newley in the lead from Nov 1996- Feb 1997.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | December 2, 2021 11:44 PM |
The Henry Winkler version isn't bad
The Kelsey Grammer version was horrible
by Anonymous | reply 62 | December 2, 2021 11:46 PM |
The Marlo Thomas version
by Anonymous | reply 63 | December 2, 2021 11:48 PM |
No, that was her version of "It's a Wonderful Life." Not very good, IIRC.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | December 3, 2021 12:27 AM |
Mickey's Christmas Carol is surprisingly faithful to the original book.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | December 3, 2021 9:39 AM |
There's a 50s live TV version with Fredric March that's pretty good. Also has music by Bernard Herrmann
by Anonymous | reply 66 | December 3, 2021 7:45 PM |
There's a really good audiobook version narrated by Tim Curry. He's fantastic.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | December 3, 2021 8:08 PM |
The Simon Callow adaptation. Completely stripped back and Dickens’ story is beautifully told.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | December 3, 2021 8:14 PM |
My faves are the 1938 MGM version and the 1979 "An American Christmas Carol", made for television.
Another movie which may interest fans of this story is "The Man Who Invented Christmas".
It's a movie, not a documentary, about Charles Dickens and his creation of the book.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | December 4, 2021 11:04 AM |
The 1938 version with Gene Lockhart has June Lockhart, uncredited, as one of the Cratchit children. That is certainly the version I have seen the most.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | December 4, 2021 11:18 AM |
1930s version with Gene Lockhart. Has an uncluttered authenticity the rest lack.
That said, almost against my will, I loved the 1970s version with Albert Finney.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | December 4, 2021 11:44 AM |
The FX version, in which Scrooge is both raped as a child, Mary Crachet is raped by Scrooge, and everyone is Black, was the worst version of a Christmas Carol I have ever seen. They took a timeless and beside story and ruined it.
Any other version I love, however. My favorite is the Muppets and A Divas Christmas Carol.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | December 4, 2021 12:28 PM |
I like the Broadway musical adaptation where Scrooge and Cratchit are young friends in the accounting firm but Scrooge takes the evil path. Their rendition of “Unlimited Credit” is a showstopper.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | December 4, 2021 2:20 PM |
I just watched Mickey's Christmas Carol over on Disney+. Haven't seen it in years. It's only a half hour and it's wonderful.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | December 4, 2021 2:56 PM |
I was trying to think of how many versions of this story I watch every year. 12!!! Yikes!!
1938 - MGM 1951 - Alistair Sim 1962 - Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol 1979 - Bugs Bunny's Christmas Carol 1979 - An American Christmas Carol (Henry Winkler) 1983 - Family Ties - A Keaton Christmas Carol 1983 - Mickey's Christmas Carol 1988 - Scrooged (Murray) 1992 - Muppet Christmas Carol 1994 - Flintstone's Christmas Carol 2000 - Diva's Christmas Carol 2009 - Jim Carey's animated Disney version
by Anonymous | reply 75 | December 7, 2021 3:21 AM |
I know it's not one of the better versions ( although much better than Kelsey Grammer as Scrooge) but I really enjoy watching Ebbie (1995) every year.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | December 7, 2021 3:32 AM |
I enjoy all versions and I love that, at least in the anglosphere, it has become adapted as an universal story in our culture.
For nostalgia purposes though, for me, nothing beats Mickey's Christmas Carol. They should've made it into a feature and not a "featurette." It is strange that Disney has never managed to really make a feature length film starring The Mouse. Fantasia doesn't count.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | December 7, 2021 4:00 AM |
I think I saw all of them when I was a kid (all the major ones anyway) and Scrooge with Finney was always always always my favorite.
But now I’ve come to learn there was one with George C Scott, and I have never seen that one.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | December 7, 2021 4:31 AM |
Finney's Scrooge - partially due to sentimental reason of watching it every year with my Mom. I feel like that one gets more respect now than it did in the past. I could do without Tiny Tim's long solo where he looks incredibly healthy. Overall though I do enjoy the numbers and while the ending might be overdone for some people, it always makes me smile.
I finally saw the Muppet version last year, and agree it is top-notch. The scene -- spoiler - where he watches the Cratchits mourn Tiny Tim, might be the most touching version of that scene I have seen.
[quote] A young Ebbie was asked to a dance when she was a teenager in 1966. A taxi drops her off at the dance. The taxi was an early 80's Chevrolet Malibu ( LAME)
Young Ebbie was really in the early 80's but then did soap aging and aged twenty years in five years. A few things I thought were interesting in that version was the increased time spent on the relationships of the sisters and how it affected her, more time on Marely and how he influenced her development into "Scrooge" - one of those things was her betrayal of the Fezziwigs and take-over of their company. Lucci might not always be the greatest actress, but playing a bitch with underlying insecurity and a need to be loved and showing some warmth at the end is right in her wheelhouse.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | December 7, 2021 1:40 PM |
R79- She was the best thing about EBBIE. I agree her portrayal made the character work. I fucked up. I watched the entire movie last week. I had not watched the movie for years. She was attending the department store party- not in the 1960's it was the 1970's- and she wasn't a teenager.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | December 7, 2021 2:13 PM |
R30 Maybe more connected to the conversion of St Paul or some of the early Christians, maybe, . I see ACC as more of a social commentary on capitalism at the expense of the worker - and well summed up by Marley’s ghost who said that ‘Mankind was my business’ in response to Scrooge’s ‘ You were always a good man of business’.
Lessons we still haven't learned.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | December 7, 2021 2:30 PM |
R81 Yes remember Dickens was written at a time of huge change and societal upheaval, the Industrial Revolution. Similar views of the intersection of Christianity and the Industrial Revolution can be found in William Blake's poem "And did those feet in ancient time" now known as the hymn "Jerusalem" which is the most popular patriotic song in England, with many wanting it to be the National Anthem of England.
by Anonymous | reply 82 | December 7, 2021 4:44 PM |
Come on, Death, leave McGrew alone! Take Tiny Tim!
by Anonymous | reply 83 | December 7, 2021 5:54 PM |
I found this book at a thrift store years ago, it’s a great read.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | December 7, 2021 5:59 PM |
Anyone seen the gay version Called Scrooge & Marley where Scrooge and Marley were a couple.
And a British TV movie set in modern times with a loan shark as Scrooge which is really good. The Ghost Of Christmas yet to come is played by his future son.
by Anonymous | reply 86 | December 8, 2021 12:03 AM |
[quote]Finney's Scrooge - partially due to sentimental reason of watching it every year with my Mom. I feel like that one gets more respect now than it did in the past. I could do without Tiny Tim's long solo where he looks incredibly healthy.
I like this one too; even though TT doesn't really look sick (and has quite the head of hair!), he's one of the not so cloying & maudlin Tiny Tims. I also like that Scrooge brings presents in this version & not just some big ass goose for Mrs. Cratchit to cook. I have to admit, Scrooge's "I Hate People" could be by theme song too!
by Anonymous | reply 88 | December 8, 2021 12:42 AM |
The Muppets' version is my favourite. I grew up with a VHS that restores the deleted song "When Love Is Gone", and remember being confused when I caught it on TV once and the song was missing. The scene where Scrooge and Belle break up falls flat without it.
I wonder if Dickens could ever have guessed that out of all the stories he wrote, this is the one that would be remade the most.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | December 8, 2021 5:34 PM |
R86, DL legend David Pevsner as Scrooge? Where can we find it?!
by Anonymous | reply 90 | December 8, 2021 11:10 PM |
Mister Magoo
by Anonymous | reply 91 | December 9, 2021 4:54 AM |
I really like the 1984 George C. Scott version in part because of Edward Woodward as the TGOCP. He's not a jolly ghost, but a pissed off ghost and he is having none of Scrooge's shit.
by Anonymous | reply 92 | December 12, 2021 11:26 PM |
The 1938 version. I think I will watch it tonight.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | December 12, 2021 11:45 PM |
I watched the Mr. Magoo version on Sunday on CBC. When Scrooge/Magoo is in the cemetery and he starts singing "All Alone In The World" I started crying. All the people I love have died and coming home to an empty house really hurts.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | December 14, 2021 1:42 AM |
A number of people have mentioned "Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol, "and it really is quite wonderful. What makes it so memorable is its very tuneful Broadway-style score, written by Jule Styne and Bob Merrill, whose later collaborations include the score of "Funny Girl." For those who have never seen it, the concept is that Mr. Magoo is starring in a Broadway musical version of Dickens' story.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | December 14, 2021 1:59 AM |
Yes. When i watched that show in 1962 with my sister, my mother in the kitchen and my father reading the newspaper, I could never have imagined that I would be alone in the world one day. All 4 of my grandparents were alive and loved within a mile of my house. I had 9 aunts and uncles and about 40 cousins all in my hometown. All gone.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | December 14, 2021 1:59 AM |
We love you, R94. Find some joy for yourself. Merry Christmas, pal!
by Anonymous | reply 97 | December 14, 2021 2:15 AM |
r90 His penis plays Tiny Tim.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | December 14, 2021 4:14 AM |
R77, I agree that Mickey's Christmas Carol should have been longer. It's lovely but a bit rushed.
It does seem odd that in a world where Hollywood has remade or spun-off almost every property under the sun, there has never been a feature-length film about Mickey, one of the most famous and heavily-merchandised characters of all time. Another one that surprises me is Super Mario: only one film back in 1993 (and it was appalling).
by Anonymous | reply 99 | December 16, 2021 12:02 AM |
Alastair Sims, except when he's laughing that creepy and unconvincing giggle. It scared me as a child.
But "Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol," with music by Jule Styne, has a fine presentation when the Magoo crap is filtered out. The song are great and I've always wondered why people don't do a straight theatrical production - kids and families!
by Anonymous | reply 100 | December 16, 2021 12:25 AM |
After seeing the 1951 version, I couldn't watch any others. Alastair Sim was the definitive Scrooge. And the supporting cast was excellent (Mrs. Naugatuck from Maude!)
by Anonymous | reply 101 | December 16, 2021 1:30 AM |
The 1951 version with Alastair Sim. I’ve watched it countless times mostly thanks to The Million Dollar Movie on WOR in NY replaying the movie twice a day in the week leading up to Christmas when I was a kid.
It is really wonderful because Sim seems to be the best portrayal of Scrooge, but he is joined by a great cast of supporting actors, especially Hermione Baddeley as Mrs. Cratchit and Kathleen Harrison as Mrs. Dilber.
I also love The Muppet version and Mr. Magoo.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | December 16, 2021 1:31 AM |
R102, isn't that Patrick MacNee from the Avengers as a young Marley, or am I confused?
by Anonymous | reply 103 | December 16, 2021 1:36 AM |
Yes, R103. That is correct. Young Marley is Patrick Macnee.
by Anonymous | reply 104 | December 16, 2021 1:42 AM |
My very favorite is the 1938 version. I also love the Mr. Magoo version. And I have a soft spot for Ebbie.
by Anonymous | reply 105 | December 16, 2021 1:43 AM |
I watched the 1935 version this morning. It’s only an hour long and available on Prime Video. Interesting to see what they were able to do with no special effects. For example, you see Marley’s face in the door knocker briefly, but then not again. The actor was not visible on film and simply voiced his lines off camera when he arrived in Scrooge’s bedchamber. There were no ghosts outside the window either when Marley departed. The Christmas Past scene has nothing about Scrooge’s childhood, just an encounter where Scrooge threatens foreclosure on a poor couple, and Belle, overhearing the exchange, breaks off their engagement.
by Anonymous | reply 106 | December 18, 2021 3:57 PM |
Keith Richards would’ve been a great Jacob Marley.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | December 18, 2021 4:58 PM |
I abhor A Christmas Carol in all forms, Especially the need to make a version of it on every sitcom ever made.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | December 18, 2021 7:10 PM |
[quote]The 1951 version with Alastair Sim. I’ve watched it countless times mostly thanks to The Million Dollar Movie on WOR in NY replaying the movie twice a day in the week leading up to Christmas when I was a kid.
I watched this last night on Amazon Prime; the quality was terrible & it's been colorized (yuck!). It really needs to be restored
by Anonymous | reply 109 | December 18, 2021 9:06 PM |
[quote] it's been colorized (yuck!)
Agreed that it is best viewed in its original B/W form. This is the version that I’ve watched for years now.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | December 19, 2021 4:10 AM |
Alastair Sim is THEE BEST Scrooge. " A Christmas Carol" was released October 31, 1951 in the UK and November 28, 1951 in the U.S. It is "the gold standard" and can't be beat.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | December 25, 2021 5:37 AM |
I just watched the 1954 hour-long reduction for TV with Fredric March as Scrooge, Basil Rathbone as Marley, a young Bonnie Franklin as a Cratchit child . . . and music by . . . Bernard Herrmann. Basil Rathbone was absolutely outstanding in his despair as Marley's ghost; March gave a subtle performance and was pretty good as Scrooge (it was interesting to watch various emotions play across his face). The music was somewhat too sophisticated for the show . . . ain't no songs there that anyone would be whistling the rest of the day. Due to the brevity, and the fact that they also had to make room for the songs in that hour, it seemed to me that Scrooge was redeemed a little too easily. But all in all, I was pleasantly surprised.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | December 25, 2021 6:04 AM |
R82 - It's a nice thought on a first read, but given how ironic the line "England's green and pleasant land" will sound these days, it's probably safer to leave the national anthem as is. Another instance of just how useful the monarchy can be.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | December 25, 2021 3:07 PM |
Andrew Lincoln did a live simulcast at the Old Vic last Christmas that was my new favorite. He was good but what I really loved was how faithful it was to the original narrative.
It might be available for viewing somewhere.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | December 25, 2021 3:27 PM |