Yellowjackets, on Showtime

I figured it would be stupid but I really liked it as well...a little Lord of the Flies and True detective mixed with teenage girls and their adult selves.

Great premiere, already hooked.

I’m enjoying it thus far.

I plan to. Was the first episode gory?

I gave it a shot and really liked it. The important part is that the young girls were not annoying like most teens are in shows these days.

Im hooked, when's the next episode out?

Christina Ricci and Juliette Lewis as cannibalistic cheerleaders? What’s not to like?

Misty is a crazy bitch 🥴

(r6) New episodes are Sunday on Showtime. Hulu has a deal where you can add Showtime for $3.99 a month for 4 months before the price goes up so that's one way to access.

Fuck, I hate Juliette Lewis. Such an annoying chick. And that whole rock-star thing? Ugh.

The girl that plays young Juliette is really pretty. And has a great taste in music and movies, judging by her Insta.

If this was a real female soccer team, half of them would be gay and dating each other.

The 90's scenes don't really look 90's, despite all the 90's rock songs that are playing in the background every five minutes.

Juliette Lewis should be in this thread as well.

Juliette Lewis always seems a little demented. Is she cray cray IRL?

R12 she's a clam. Does that answer your question?

It is on for free on Pluto TV.

It's free on Torrent sites.

Is no one watching this show? The thread is dead.

I'm so old Juliette Lewis will always be the daughter on I Married Dora.

I’m watching and hooked.

Those wilderness scenes are creepy and spooky

They have a good music department. Love the Elliott Smith and Nirvana.

I guess Jackie (Shauna's best friend) doesn't make it out of the wilderness since there's no actress portraying the adult version of her, or did I miss something? Who was running at the beginning of Ep1 and ultimately fell to her death?

R20 They didn't play any Nirvana. Did they play Elliot Smith?

[Quote] Who was running at the beginning of Ep1 and ultimately fell to her death?

We don't know yet.

It was driving me crazy who the actress playing Van (the one who got burned on the plane) is. I looked it up. She was the daughter on Santa Clarita Diet. She's good.

Agree the 90s scenes are way off.

They need to pick up the pace.

I wonder if Van will eat Jackie??

Nothing like feeding rabbit to your unwitting family.

I loved the first episode and much of the second. I guess my problem is that the wilderness scenes and the scenes where the present day adults reflect on the past are way, way more interesting than their current problems. I was so bored with the cliche problems in Melanie Lynskey’s family and some rough trade she met in a fender bender. My attention wanders and I miss when something interesting happens.

R22, I was thinking of another show. Pardon.

Melanie Lynskey was the other Heavenly Creature with Kate Winslet, and was in But I'm A Cheerleader, as one of the lesbians getting converted.

Who is that little hot piece playing Melanie Lynskey’s husband?

Time was not kind to Juliette Lewis' face.

A rabbit from your yard would be absolutely rife with parasites.

Is it Yellowjackets or Straitjackets?

R34 it should be both.

All the non-Americans in this cast must be driving the “foreign actors stealing American roles” DL trolls crazy.

Bump Why is no one on DL watching this show?

[quote] They didn't play any Nirvana. Did they play Elliot Smith?

They played Hole. It was Miss World

^ Hole isn't Nirvana.

I love it so far. Juliette Lewis is EVERYTHING. Dark, brooding, intense as FUCK. She's just one of those actors that's fascinating to watch. I'm a fan of Melanie Lynskey, but I don't give a shit about broken marriage storylines--so that's a FF.

They probably used Hole over Nirvana because the 90s riot grllll aesthetic blah blah blah

That's bs. They also had Smashing Pumpkins.

R41 So? What does THAT have to do with anything?

R42 "They probably used Hole over Nirvana because the 90s riot grllll aesthetic blah blah blah"

Why wouldn't they used a Nirvana song then? Smashing Pumpkins weren't a riot grrrl band either. It's not like they could only use either Hole or a Nirvana song. Not both.

Plus Nirvana was a lot closer to Olympia, WA riot grrrl bands than Hole were. Literally, since they lived there and dated Bikini Kill girls, musically and idealogicly. Courtney hated those bands. And Kurt Cobain was way bigger feminist than she ever was.

[quote] Hole isn't Nirvana.

I didn't say it was. But it is Nirvana adjacent

"Coach Scott" was GORGEOUS will we see more of him?

The girl actresses are well matched to their grown up actresses.

The BODY on "Teen Jeff" (actor is Jack DePew and at 29 way too old for this, of course).

Juliette Lewis is a gem of a woman IRL. Not "cray cray" in the slightest and wholly her own person. Humble, a bit strange, charismatic and steeped in old glamor and Hollywood stories from the late 80's, 90's and beyond. She's one of those people everyone wants at the dinner party.

It’s pretty good.

It's very entertaining. Although I don't think Melanie Lynskey would have such hunky muscular husband.

R48, no kidding. She’s got access to that AND the hot mechanic dude?

I'm sure they're saving Nirvana for when shit really breaks down in the woods. And I am excited.

Juliette Lewis's face looks haggard and fantastic in this show. Christina Ricci playing adult and "ugly" Misty is a stretch. Also Juliette is a number of years older.

R46 she does seem cool but i can't fully get on board due to the whole $cio thing.

R52 How does she look cool? The whole rock star wannabe thing is so lame and un-cool to me.

R48 Well the actress that portrays younger Melanie is quite pretty. They started fooling back then, in highschool.

R43 Who gives a fuck about how Love felt about Kathleen Hanna and those other bands? Who cares that they used the Pumpkins?

Those are YOUR reasons. Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that maybe they decided to use Hole--a popular, primarily FEMALE band from the decade this show is set in--instead of Nirvana? This show is about young women, female empowerment, etc. Everything THAT movement was about and despite Love's selective memory, she capitalized on that image. BIG TIME.

Please get a refill of whatever meds you are out of...

R48 I mean...they've been together since high school. Maybe he's not a superficial piece of shit?

I told a friend that this was awesome. He said,he didn’t watch shows about women. Something about their voices.

How sad to go through life like that.

R55 You are too stupid to insult.

R57 your friend does sound like a misogynist asshole.

R57 Why are you friends with a mysonistic pos?

Sad.y, I think a lot of,straight guys are like that.

R58 And you CLEARLY have issues that need to be dealt with. Get help or kill yourself. Nobody cares.

There’s a subreddit for discussing this. A number of participants claim to have Borderline Personality Disorder, in a thread discussing the gal who’s on meds for schizophrenia.

I’m hoping the show doesn’t veer into supernatural shit. Damaged humans are scary enough.

R62 You care, you stupid dumbass cunt. Otherwise you wouldn't have replied, moron.

R61 How do you know his friend isn't gay? Judging by DL, a lot of gay guys are like that as well.

R63 I don't think it will veer into supernatural. It doesn't look like that type of show. So far..

WTF with that doll?

The sign is carved on the tree when they arrive. We know in episode 2 the girls descend into savagery but there must be an outside agent who/that is part of what happens. The agent could be human or supernatural. It won't bother me either way.

Teen Sauna is secretly barebacking her BFF's Jackie's longterm boyfriend Jeff. Adult Jeff is now Sauna's husband. There is no adult Jackie - so she dies in the mountain shenanigans.

In the first ep, the girl who fell into the pit was wearing the heart necklace Jackie was wearing in the 90s.

SPOILER for tonight's episode

Shawna is now fat and dumpy, the guy from the car she hit has to be setting her up. Her husband is an ass.

Her husband was HAF in HS and remains so. It's compensation because she never got to go to Brown and instead became a flesh eating savage in the woods.

Its too early to trust any character and we already have reasons to distrust most if not all of them.

I bet it’s the presumed-dead Jackie behind this new drama. Who will play adult Jackie?

I am really liking this, but is designed to be multiple seasons? I just don’t see how they can sustain it.

I did like the music this episode, even if I don’t really “get” why 80s music was used so much. Vienna by Ultravox at the end, and my favorite Kim Wilde song, Cambodia, when Shauna was tailing her husband. I love that song.

R72, I love it, too.

Whoever fell into the pit didn’t survive. How could she have?

I absolutely HATE the flashbacks to the crash site. They give me major anxiety.

Melanie Lynskey’s voice reminds me of Megan Mullally.

They ate the girl from the pit, dolls. There is no actress listed for grown up Shauna in IMDB.

OOPs - I mean no actress for grown up Jackie. Jackie must be dead in the pit and fire roasted.

Why couldn’t they just kill animals in the pungee trap? They had to eat each other?

Well Mary, that is a central compelling mystery and why we look forward to watching more episodes. Duh.

R66 I spoke too soon. Didn't take long for it to turn into lame supernatural dreck.

So they were in the woods for three days but when they were bathing in the lake, all of their armpits were freshly shaved.

And why would cops go to the site where the guy hang himself? How would they know that someone hang themself? So stupid. The first thing they would do is find those fresh tire tracks that match the car of the two women that were in jail just few hours ago, for breaking into this dead guy's home.

P.S. why do American cops always turn the sirens on when going to the crime scene? So that the perpetrator can escape on time? Or they don't do that and it's just a thing in Hollywood movies and shows?

R64 Great comeback! You're officially a child. Those fentanyl-laced lines are calling your name. Get to sniffing, creep. Somebody needs that apartment you stink up.

R80=cunt. I know it was a great comeback, you retard. I don't need you to tell me that. And look, you still care. Go play in traffic.

I think they are going to use every single 90s "alternative" big hit throughout the show.

The girl who fell in the pit had long black hair. But I guess if Jackie's hair grew and was dirty that could be her, they were there for 19 months.

Am rewatching the first episode and Jackie is wearing a heart necklace and the girl who fell in the pit had on a heart necklace.

I don't think it's Jackie. It could be Lottie?

Yes Lottie had long dark hair. Also I kept watching and Jackie gave her heart necklace to Shauna on the plane. But we know Shauna survives.

Can't stand the woman running for Senate (Tai?) her voice is grating, too sexy for the part.

'My son' 'Waaaaalt'. I agree the little kid reminds me of Walt from Lost. That doll at the end. Yikes

Van (Vanessa) looks like a 30 year old lesbian.

Some of the "teens" are in their late 20s and the lighting catches it on the regular.

Will Missy kill the coach or will he die from his leg getting infected?

Oops I think her name is Misty. Ironic since I have a coworker by that name who is psychotic too.

Misty treating that old lady that way is why I don't want to go into a rest home when I am old.

Cristina Ricci is so good at playing nutso characters.

Coach Ben is hot!

3rd episode was creepy as fuck when they juxtaposed Taissa as a little girl at the wake, teen at the cabin and then adult at her house walking to discover something terrifying. I was thoroughly freaked out and had to cleanse my palette with some mindless YouTube after.

MARY!!!

I laughed at Misty's date who kept trying to get away from her

I like Natalie's open disgust with Misty.

Coach lisped when he said Misty, think the actor is gay.

R86 how can her voice be sexy and grating at the same time?

Taissa is obviously in love with Van. Wonder what will happen between them.

Jackie is a major character in the flashbacks - I don't think she was the one in the pit. She probably survived somehow and is sending the postcards.

R100 There's no actress credited as an adult Jackie.

Well adult Jackie would have to be completely offscreen character. There is no "adult Jackie" actress listed in IMDB.

I don’t think it’s a legal requirement that every performer is listed on IMDb, especially if the show wants to keep it a surprise.

It’s Jackie.

R103 IMDb can't hide the cast of the show just because show creators or a network tells them to hide it. Unless they are hiding it too. Did that ever happen? That the movie or a tv show producers were not listing someone cause they wanted to keep it as a surprise? Never heard of it

The tree carving is fresh and there when they arrive in the woods. Someone/something is watching them. This is someone/something is not any of the survivors.

Vanessa's family is haunted by evil AND schizophrenia? Just the one or the other? Wy waste ALL this screen time on the kid who is exterior to the central story.

r105 that is Tai's family not Vanessa

Oh sorry for my name mixup.

r107 it is easy to mix up the names. I watched the first episode at a friend's house who kept talking over it. So last weekend I rewatched it by myself so I could catch more on the 2nd viewing.

I got spoiled from binge watching, I don't want to wait a week between episodes.

Supernatural thing is so lame and played out. It's easy to make it supernatural, you don't have to be a good writer. I was hoping this will be something along the lines of them starting some kind of a hiarachy, a tribe which will also include sacrifices and cannibalism.

The older brother is nasty to his younger brother, I hope nothing happens to the younger one.

The actress playing Van really hit the wall after Santa Clarita Diet, huh? She made the transition of so many Irish lesbians before her who went from 17 to 38 overnight.

R112 They is non-binary.

They’re trying to stretch this out for 5 damn seasons.

It would surprise me that Christina Ricci and Juliette Lewis would be interested in such a long gig.

Great show so far.

R114 oh God, i hope they don't. Five seasons isn't necessary for this type of show.

R115 It's not like they have something better to do

They're going to turn it into Lost

R119 Right? That's a bit disappointing, honestly. "Lost" really ruined the island mystery genre for me. I'm actually annoyed thinking about it. But I like Lewis and Ricci and OF COURSE, I want to see how it plays out, but I think we should ALL maybe prepare for disappointment.

Taissa (both actors) really bug me--especially, the younger one, and I'm kinda tired of supernatural children.

I am still bitter about the last season of LOST. I hope we get more answers on this show.

It seems obvious that Melanie Lynskey's character is going to kill her husband. Why else would they spend so much time on her marriage? Wild guess at the murder weapon: the iron beside the bed.

Whoa r122 interesting theory

Will it end with her frying him up in a pan?

R122 Melanie should kill the daughter while she's at it. What a brat.

FIVE seasons???????????

I'm so glad the tiresome, narcissistic "they/them" actress got fat and ugly. You just know it must be eating her up inside.

R122 - well that stud is part of the back story on the Vatican and Carpathian machinations what will play out in the mountains.

Travis is such an asshole

R129 I'm dying to know why they didn't eat him.

Melanie Lynsey is giving a divine performance in this. Have always loved her. It's a bit cliche her storyline but she makes it.

Like “Mare of Easttown” (and other good shows), it should only be one season. I think it dilutes the magic when they drag something out. Let it be a fantastic 13 episodes and let it go. Some projects, like “The White Lotus” can return with new characters, but I don’t know how “Yellowjackets” could make these mysteries last. And, personally, I don’t care for the “Lord of the Flies” part of the show. I like the 2021 part a lot more.

Who Jackie?!

Jackie is 100% dead

Kind of a filler episode.

Also, they are going to run out of 90s alternative music hits if they keep it up like they have so far

Melanie Lynskey is a good actress but she is not an attractive woman, there is no way that guy does not have an ulterior motive.

R136 She used to be hot.

Thanks, Gay Helen Keller. Melanie is an attractive and Rubenesque woman that many guys go for. Sheesh! But yeah, he has a motive. They are all suspicious.

R138 I'm not the "he has a motive" poster, but she no longer looks like that.

She does not look good in this series. But she does look better than she did in Heavenly Creatures. She is starting to get jowls.

r138 turn in your gay card

Melanie will always be Jacqueline from Ever After to me.

Melanie is married to cutie Jason Ritter

r143 quit lying, no she is not

OOPS sorry r143 I can't believe she bagged that cutie. She looks dumpy in this series but that is probably the point.

I think it is a misdirect and they never were cannibals.

Is the hot guy the other brother ?

The cast is really good but Christina Ricci is making this a must watch for me. She is hilarious. Melanie Lynskey is heavier than her old self but she is middle aged and that's what a lot of middle aged women look like. Juliette Lewis can play the white trash outcast in her sleep but she is good here. Tawny Cypress has yet to connect in a real way. She is played too cold for being in a seemingly loving relationship with a small child. Her scene telling off the rich white cunt was satisfying though.

Not sure about the supernatural elements to the story. I would prefer a straight up Lord of the Flies humans are awful real world telling of events. But who knows, the otherworldly stuff might pay off.

A female soccer team and big majority of them are straight? That's like making a show about a group of make fashion designers or ballet dancers and almost all of them are straight.

R149 To be fair, the dead ones could be lesbians.

Something seems slightly "off" to me about the 1996 scenes. I can't put my finger on why, some of the details they've gotten wrong have irritated me. I couldn't help but notice a "Keep Calm and Marry Harry" poster above Shauna's bed in the first episode. First of all, Prince Harry was like... what 11 or 12 in 1996? ICK. William was the "hot" one in 1996. Also, "Keep Calm and Carry On" shit wasn't mass marketed until what, 2005?

I'm sorry, I don't know WHY that dumb as hell detail got under my skin!!!!

R150, that was her daughter's room. She was middle aged and masturbating in her teenager's room to show how boring her life is in the present.

R151 You're right, I wasn't paying attention. HONESTLY? It's still a weird thing for a teen in 2021 to have on their wall.

R127, I worked on this show and she was a sour puss the entire shoot. Rude and annoying. Or maybe I was projecting.

R30 No shit. Melanie Lynskey has IMDb. She’s well known to people who appreciate serious acting and the like. Or non-philistines.

I remember Melanie mostly from HC & also Rose Red. The scene with the rocks raining on the house while the theme from A Summer Place really stayed with me, I had a dream about it 20 yrs later!

R153 who else was an asshole?

The actress who plays Van has aged a lot and gotten heavier. I wonder if they hired her and then she gained weight and there was nothing they could say about it (she seems like the type to sue).

Juliette Lewis gave a strange interview and said she found the character depressing to play and didn’t like her story arc at all.

Reddit’s speculating that this is another wendigo riff, which seems pretty tired.

bingo

What other shows have used the Wendigo myth recently? I can't remember any.

Some of the theories on the Yellowjackets subreddit are... wild. Are those people even WATCHING the show?

R161, some of those people are bananas. I’ve followed a few of these woman-centric shows (“Killing Eve”, “Mare of Easttown”, “The Undoing”), and there is a lot of fanatical posting. There’s fan art, fanfic, visiting and analyzing the locations, all kinds of what I’d consider obsessiveness and over-identifying. The craziest ones are the Killing Eve ladies.

For fucks sake, Melanie was in But I'm a Cheerleader. I thought every gay person had seen it! I believe her root was " all girls boarding school"

r162 I am proceeding with caution, I got caught up in all the online theories about LOST and got burned.

R163 Okay??

Melanie was also married to DL fave Jimmie Simpson.

I bet psycho bitch Misty killed Travis.

R158 then why take the role??

I think it's probably Misty behind everything

R168 The character probably didn't go the way she originally was told or expected. Scripts are written as they go along.

R170 then i wonder how she will feel after 5 seasons?

I ove the yellowjackets

Coach was pretty clever, pretending he's in love with that conniving poodle haired little freak.

Did anyone else notice the Coach snapping his fingers while the girls were dancing at the beginning. MARY!!!

Did they had two coaches or what? I don't remember the first episode in the details. But if the guy without a leg is a coach, who was the guy that died and ended up in a tree? The father of the douchey guy and the kid?

Technically, the one missing a leg is the assistant coach.

I would do SO many things to that the assistant coach. The actor--not the character.

hey we're stranded in the wilderness let's have a seance

R178 well it gets worse....

Coach is definitely a cock aficionado.

I love it when the yellowjackets would collaborate with Take Six

I wish I could fast-forward and just know who ate whom.

Coach has purses falling out of his mouth

I don't think there's cannibalism but definitely human sacrifice.

Probably would work better if it had an "IT" like format. Tell the story of what happened to them in the crash and then tell the adult story.

I feel a bit disappointed while watching this show knowing that they've planned 5 seasons for it. Christ. It's going to drag on and on. Isn't it?

R184 did you watch the first episode??

Ok, the actor who plays teenaged Travis is 30! And he used to be a figure skater. Color me taken aback!

"[R184] did you watch the first episode?? "

Yes, I think it was a red herring.

Fuck! I hate it that I binged all 5 episodes and now I’m stuck with one a week.

I said this before but I think they are misleading us and there is no cannibalism.

^ I agree, but I don’t think they’re eating red herring, it looks more like red beef.

So my theory is that Jackie wasn’t the murdered and cannibalized girl shown. We know Jackie is the influential leader and she got the girls to hold a seance in the attic - I could see her coming up with the idea of a sacrifice. She already gave her necklace away once so maybe she’ll do it again. The girls and guy go along with it - but maybe they fought her for control and ran her off before they were rescued and now she’s back for revenge…

I realize this makes zero sense - but I’ve had too much time to dwell on it since WE HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK!

[quote] So my theory is that Jackie wasn’t the murdered and cannibalized girl shown.

It's not Jackie. It was obviously Lottie, the girl who ran out of her meds and is having hysterical delusions.

There are five seasons of this? Oy vey. It’s gonna get pretty thin. I thought we’d have another, and get some answers.

Juliette Lewis was great in Sacred Lies season 2 with Ryan Kwanten.

SPOILERS* SPOILERS* SPOILERS* for Episode 6 - - - *Spoilers* ___ ___ _ DAMN Tai is the woman in the tree. poor Sammy is going to need more than therapy. That was fucked up.

The abortion attempt scene was well done.

Why did the coach have so many condoms? I bet they weren't for sex with a woman.

Misty kidnapping that woman, yikes she is a psycho.

[Quote] Misty kidnapping that woman, yikes she is a psycho.

Which was obvious from the first episode. Christina is great at playing psycho.

Jackie is either dead or institutionalized. This show made me realize how much I can't stand Juliette Lewis.

Juliette Lewis is under the same delusion as Johnny Depp - that the 'indie rockstar' look ages well.

Hmmm, so tonight we learned there are more girls from the team still alive. I wonder who they are? I bet Laura Lee is still alive and running some weird mega church.

Where are people reading this will be 5 seasons? They only renewed it for the second season a few days ago.

^i know, I was wondering why people say it. The Wiki page says it was conceived as being a 5-season show. It’s my favorite thing on Tv now & am Overjoyed it got renewed, but I don’t see how it can go on 5 seasons…3 maybe? Lost lost its mojo halfway through its run, I don’t want this show to go that route.

[quote] I really like Juliette Lewis in everything she’s in.

LOVE Juliette, she always sounds stoned out of her mind. I know she's not, but her delivery is hilarious.

[quote]Misty kidnapping that woman, yikes she is a psycho.

You'd be surprised how many mentally disturbed people work in nursing homes and as home health aides. Their training is minimal and many abuse their patients. Home health aides, as well as nursing home workers, are not supposed to be dispensing any medications. Only a nurse can do that. Is Misty an aide or an actual nurse?

My relatives have had their share of lunatics 'caring' for them, my relatives are lucky to still be alive.

I do not care about teenage sexcapades in the wilderness.

R206 Of course we get tits but no Travis ass

[quote]I do not care about teenage sexcapades in the wilderness.

Is that ALL you are getting out of this series? Seriously, you cannot be this stupid.

You sir, are a moron.

Does coach show peen?

I didn't understand in the recent episode the part at the end with adult Taissa crouching in the dark with half her hand bitten off? Wtf? Can someone explain what that was?

If anyone is looking for hardcore sex on cable shows, male asses, erections or whatever most of you guys are complaining about in this thread, you need to stop watching HBO, Showtime etc. You are not going to see any of that on cable.

Why not simply spend your free time watching actual porn?

When posters come in and ask if there are hard core sex scenes in cable TV shows, I always laugh out loud. I then wonder what the median age of DL posters happens to be these days. 15-16?

You're projecting, R208.

There was a clue in this episode that Jackie did get rescued. When Shauna read through Jackie’s notebook you could see she wrote her movie favorite characters in Titanic (1997), scream (December 96), American Beauty & 10 things I hate about you (99) and Bring it on (2000). She also wrote her favorite song was Spice Girls Wannabe which was first played in the US in December 96 on mtv then on the radio in January 97. My guess is that she survived and was rescued but later killed herself or became institutionalized? These entries were too blatant to be errors. I’m also guessing that Jeff or Adam is behind the blackmail. Lotties vision of Laura Lee makes me suspect she will die in a fire- perhaps from trying to fly the plane?

Also - Shauna's daughter is 16, so it's not the baby she had in the wilderness. That would make Shauna 34 and I thought they were saying Jackie was having her 40th birthday or something.

So I assume that baby dies and Callie is a kid she has when she returns and gets back with Jeff?

Jackie is dead. The cheerleading uniform that Shauna's cunty daughter wears was given to Shauna by Jackie's parents to remember her on her 40th birthday.

I doubt Shauna’s baby survives. They aren’t eating well she will probably miscarry. Callie was born in 2005 or 2006.

Jackie went off to look for help, and was insterad kidnapped by a backwoods Canadian who put her to work as a roadie for Anne Murray.

R200 Lewis is DRESSED and MADE UP in a LOOK for a CHARACTER on a TV SERIES.

Huge Juliette fan; in real life she’s in a rock band. I first heard of this when Lana Del Rey made her infamous SNL debut; Juliette, who apparently knew her, was trashing the performance on Twitter, which sounded a bit like sour grapes: how does this chick get so much exposure when my band doesn’t?

Humans eat dirt when desperate for nutrients. I suddenly remembered this fact when watching last night, Tai has deep unresolved trauma, but the act of eating the dirt or even sucking her own blood is a reaction to desperately needing iron more than being insane.

Guess they ate the miscarried baby?

R221 I highly doubt they are going to go there.

R221 It’s also probably the size of a fingernail, so I doubt it’d be a satisfying meal.

Juliette dresses like that in real life as well. She's in an indie band. She has terrible fashion sense.

I wonder if this is a production error, but last week I re-watched the first few episodes, and in the third episode I counted 18 or so survivors hand in hand as the girls circled the makeshift graves for the dead. I wonder if the other extras will ever become full-fledged characters as the show goes on. Probably not, but it seems like a weird detail to insert then never mention again.

R213 The diary entries are so bizarre. I can't help but wonder if it was just a careless prop, versus a real clue about the future.

Maybe Jackie's mother made the diary entries as a way to try and keep her memory alive. They're still holding birthday parties for her, they obviously didn't deal with their grief in any sort of healthy manner.

I'll wager that the poster above is correct and Jackie returned but killed herself. That's why the mum is being a passive aggressive bitch to Shauna.

R220 A couple episodes back Tai’s wife remarked on her weight loss / not eating. It also seems that her son has been haunted by the “lady in the tree” for awhile. Whatever triggered her is beyond the blackmail and campaign. I think it must have something to do with Van.

R229, I was thinking more about when Lottie saw a vision of Tai wildly eating dirt in the wild in the 90s. That though it implied she was merely insane, it would be somewhat rational were she starving.

R230 I don't think what Lottie saw was a vision, I think Lottie literally saw Tai eating dirt. Van did comment on how dirty Tai's nails were when they were in the lake together, and Tai was surprised herself that they were so filthy.

R231, oh wow. Ok- chills.

The girls are probably suffering from rabbit starvation.

R208 you should go on the LChat. After episode 2, some idiots were complaining about no lesbian sex scenes and how all of the character need to be hot. What is the point in watching a show if you're just going to keep a tally of the kissing scenes.

Van is ugly I am glad we were spared seeing her topless

I do not understand why so many people on reddit INSIST that Adam is Javi. It just does. not. make. sense.

I'm starting not to care about the older chicks having to keep a secret.

[quote] I'm starting not to care about the older chicks having to keep a secret.

But Taissa's career hangs in the balance! Along with the future of...the New Jersey state senate.

Yeah, snore. We're quite a few eps in and there isn't much intrigue to the adult scenario.

I only care about what Misty is doing as an adult. She's one entertaining poodle haired crazy bitch.

Yeah Misty is fun.

I'm sick of the spooky son of the Lipstick lesbians. That kid better be quite possessed by the DEVIL himself and it needs to start soon.

Juliette Lewis looks old AF

Well she is OLDER than the character she is playing

She's a good choice to play someone who's supposed to be an alcoholic junkie, so it doesn't bother me. Nat has done some hard living since the rescue.

Natalie reminds me so much of this eternally fucked up girl from my high school class. She is still smoking and drinking and partying like high school or college. I saw her a while back at a funeral and she looked so much older than all the rest of us from my class. Still skinny, but haggard as hell.

I just started watching this. very good! I'm on episode 2 so far

who is the blonde kid with glasses who chopped off the leg of the coach? who is she as the adult?

That’s Misty Christina Ricci character

yeah, I don't buy it that that young guy would be interested in a middle aged frau...he must be a reporter after her story.

I thought the Asian cop was cute.

Is he asian? He wasn't asian when he was a teenager. or was he?

I think maybe he's part Asian.

Looking forward to next episode!

Not Asian, but that actor is hot.

The man is better looking than the teen.

The actor & the character are biracial, I think. And both hot! I assumed at first that the teen character was gay.

R249 He's only 9 years younger than her

Misty probably sent the postcards.

R256, I just don't buy it. A younger cute guy would be interested in a dumpy old frau like her!

Juliette Lewis's character Natalie is obviously the same age as her HS frenemies. We are supposed to somewhat overlook Juliette being a decade older than some of the other actresses and somewhat attribute it to her being a hard partying bad ass chick.

For "Kevyn Tan", the hot hop, difficult to know Alex Wyndham's ethnic mix. He is born and raised in England is very classy - very prestigious prep school, Oxford and then Royal Academy. He does sort of stick out in this series and he's not all that convincing as the grown up Teen "Kevyn Tan" who has an asian last name but isn't played by a young asian or mixed actor, either, to my eyes.

hot cop

I would maybe guess he's part Japanese

yes, I saw him IMDB page. black belt in karate!

^his

the fat dumpy frau plays Leo Dicaprio's wife in his new move "don't look up"

I have never been much interested in Melanie Lysnskey, Juliette Lewis, or Christina Ricci and still have PTSD from being a big LOST fan so wasn't going to bother watching. But we were flipping channels one night when not much was on and the first 2 episodes were playing. Didn't expect to get into it but now I really want to see what happens.

*SPOILER*

The wolves scene was rough. Bye bye to one of the girls.

Give the Emmy to Coach Ben for letting Misty bravely pursue help.

After this episode, I’m more tolerant of the Adam is Javi theory, but not totally convinced.

Stupid to let Adam into their home. If he is Javi maybe he killed his brother and emptied his bank account.

It didn't make a lot of sense for so many of the girls to decide to leave camp to look for rescue. There was no benefit and a lot of risk. Also the girls aren't stupid so WTF.

Also, why did the girl end up high in the tree, and with the bone from her girlfriend? She was in a trance and took the bone for self preservation when she heard the wolves?

Shauna should have burned her diary. My goodness. I understand that many people who journal almost do it compulsively (ugh), but girl... you're pregnant with your best friend's boyfriend's baby. You're in the woods with 10 other girls. Does she really think NO ONE would have snooped? Forget Jackie. Any of the girls probably would have read that diary had they come across it.

I thought this episode was a hoot. The three adult women racing around in the SUV was very funny. What's going on with Travis? Is there another 'talk' with coach in his future?

[quote]After this episode, I’m more tolerant of the Adam is Javi theory, but not totally convinced.

I hadn't even considered that. But I did think the guy extorting them with the snow mask on was Javi.

Shauna's husband is the blackmailer and he's not having an affair. It's all misdirection.

^ooh good one! The preview shows her finding some glitter in what seemed to be sheets, I just assumed it was from Adam. It would explain why her hubby came in so late! The hooded figure also seemed a bit burly, more like the husband than teeny Adam.

And he knows them all! The husband knows all of the women from high school ... he knows more about them than any other character besides the survivors! We are meant to feel like he's a random dude, but he's a Yellow Jacket too.

Ah! I like that idea. I had considered the woman Shauna saw him with was not actually an affair but the idea that he's the blackmailer is a good one. His business is failing, perhaps.

He must give good dickens. She knew he was a cheater because he cheater with her. And she threw away her future, once back to civilization. Her friend GOES to college and law school. She pops out kids, riding his dick, and he's a loser and she always knew it.

dickings auto correct

yes, that blackmailer driving the car is tall like her husband...I like this theory.

Is the blond guy tall? hmmmm

Yes so obvious it’s Shauna’s husband. Mysteriously out all night the same night of the money drop??? And the glitter shit was an easy way for them to show her finding it in their house.

Also didn’t they whine about not having money for their daughter’s college fund? He could say he wanted the money for that or some bullshit.

Hope there’s a better twist in addition to this. Maybe he’s working with Adam.

This could be purely coincidental but I noticed in Sunday’s episode that adult and youth Shauna were both wearing butterfly-themed shirts. A possible clue regarding her character arc?

^^^ careful - you're heading into 'Lost' level analysis and we all know how that turned out

I know it’s heresy to come into this thread and say it, but I’m starting to get tired of this show. I just want to know how they got rescued. I don’t care about the rest of it.

Why did the show spend so much time showing Tai cutting her hair? Why did she do that, anyway? I LOLed when it looked like a mullet and Van called it “pretty hot, actually”.

Yeah I find the girls much more interesting than the adults. And it’s dragging a bit - I agree with r283

True r282. I’m probably overthinking. Also, I agree - more focus on their younger selves!

It would be great if they never showed the creep without eyes again.

Juliette needs some filler and fix. Also she looks like her hair and pussy would smell like cigarettes

r287 who or what is that?

R289 a fucked up part of Tai's childhood. I hate him lol

This series has been renewed for a second season.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Shauna’s boytoy is secretly the baby she had in the woods but that seems like it would be too twisted for this show. I do think he’s the blackmailer though or at least working with him.

The show is starting to pick up again after a couple of truly boring episodes. The last five minutes was the show really cashing in on its promise.

I don’t think that’s the last we’re gonna see of the dead girl.

[Quote] I wouldn’t be surprised if Shauna’s boytoy is secretly the baby she had in the woods

Or it's Javi.

My fave line/scene so far is when Juliette calls Ricci (Missy) a "Poodle haired FREAK" because it's so true and because Ricci plays it amazing - she looks shocked someone doesn't like her Ogilvy home-perm. Great writing and superb acting.

Maybe Adam is Javi & Travis' brother?

I liked it in the car when the frenemies are shading Juliette for being a mess and she reads them back for handing on threads, themselves. So true.

Maybe he is the son of Travis & Natalie?

R297 oh God i hope not. The Natalie and Travis shit is so boring.

Aaand the assistant coach IS gay. I love that so many people called it early on.

R297 How could that be possible? He's way too old to play their son.

I wanted to like this but can’t get through the 3rd episode

Coach is gay!!!

God help him if Missy figures it out.

Between Juliette Lewis's Karenesque-Kabuki theatre phone call freakout and Christina Ricci's anguished howl at the thought of losing her cockatoo, I thought this episode was hilarious. The ending was inevitable with that plane just sitting there but I felt sorry for Jesus girl.

The cocaine scene was so OTT. I loved it.

Too. Much. Fun!

That reporter in Missy's basement better watch her legs, I can see Missy doing a Misery on her.

^^^ Oops pardon me, Misty not Missy

Assistant Coach = confirmed for gay!

Why does Travis always looks so haunted? We know he was traumatized from bullying, seeing his gruesomely killed father, and probably whatever his physical ailment was. But is the show hinting at sexual violence at the hands of Bobby Farleigh? They often show Travis' eyes and it looks like he's completely dissociated.

Maybe his father molested him?

r311 that is a good theory because of the way he acted when his father died and him being squirelly about having sex with Natalie.

R310 How do we know that he was bullied?

r313 he told Natalie how he was bullied at school

Keep up. He was bullied at school because someone invented a rumor he had rib or spine surgery so he could suck himself off.

They called him Flex

The make-up job they do on Lewis to make her look like a haggard mess is phenomenal. I was watching an IG live she did for New Year's without makeup and she looked 15 years younger than Natalie. No shit. She's a little out there tho OR should I say "Actor-y." Like there's almost a disconnect?

Not that Natalie is unattractive. I mean...she's sexy but the character looks like she's been through some shit.

Does anyone else FF through the plane crash scenes UNTIL they see something interesting? I'm getting impatient. I know--I get it--slow build blabhlablah

I’m sad about Jesus Girl, she couldn’t even clutch her Teddy Bear at the end.

no I watch everything.

In the first four or five episodes I actually preferred the plane crash scenes over the current day ones, but in the past few episodes, I'm really enjoying the dynamic between the adult women. Tai is suddenly a lot more interesting with adult Shauna than she is with her boring wife and weirdo son. I suddenly recognized the younger version of her as being the same actress in the final season of The Leftovers.

Am I the only one who can't stand Juliette Lewis?

Yes R321, she may be a bit off-putting but it suits her character perfectly.

If they really became cannibals, I could see the coach as their very first meal.

Why isn't their wild game to hunt in the woods. Why did they make a big deal of the creepy carvings and now let it slide? Why did the lawyers kid have a "creepy kid" arc and now nothing.

R324 What in the God's name are you blabbering about?

there.

R324, I know, that’s just stupid. There have to be some birds and squirrels at least. Or snails and frogs. Dog forbid I ever have to find out, but I think there are lots of small animals that you can catch. And there was that scene with the group at the cabin, just sitting there idly during daylight. Bitches, there’s WORK to do. Why wouldn’t they be gathering food?

I also know that humans need sodium. I wonder if the old dude had a supply of salt.

I love some old-timey yellowjackets

so who the fuck is adams?

I really hope Adam isn’t Javi. I’m sorry, I know it’s been twenty something years but if you spent that much time deserted in the woods with someone, you’d still recognize them.

Why did they get such an ugly actor to play Travis? I know he’s the only game in town but it’s hard to be invested in these girls sweating a 4 as much as they are.

They can't live on small game. Rabbits and squirrels are too lean too provide the fat that humans need.

Good for them...i guess.

Does anyone know how many episodes they are planning per season?

I believe I read the first season has 10 episodes...not sure if true but they have a hell of a lot to cover according to the previews. I wonder if they wrote Season 1 as a stand alone and then it became a hit (well...a Showtime hit) and now they have to construct new/different narratives.

I’m loving this show after two episodes! My only obscure critique is that they have some Preppy Handbook touches in here (Lilly Pulitzer, ribbon belts) and that stuff didn’t make a comeback in popular culture until 00 or 01, it wouldn’t have been referenced in 96.

So why did Jeff take the journals out of the safe? That part didn’t make sense to me.

I bet Callie took the journals, not Jeff.

The latest episode is WILD, I won't spoil it but hope others watch it soon so we can discuss.

With just one episode left I don't think we are going to get much in the way of answers

Can't wait for episode 9! I want the coach so badly! Fucking hot as! I want to taste his hole and gag on his cock until my mouth goes numb!

Misty makes me laugh so much! Lol!

R338 how have you seen it already!?? Do you have connections???

The series is stretching everything out. To start the series, we got flash forwards to grisly winter goings on at the camp and its not even winter at the end of season 1. Bad pacing.

Yeah my only complaint would be the pacing as well not being executed well.

r341 it starts at midnight Eastern time on Showtime Anytime streaming

“There’s no book club!”

omg, poor travis!

I swear that there was a recent show, maybe Cruel Summer, that wanted to use Kiss From a Rose, but Seal puts a prohibitively high price on its use and they couldn’t afford it. How did they get it for Yellowjackets?

is there a 2nd season?

R347 Cause Showtime has more money than Freeform?

This show is giving every indication of heading in the general direction of Lost—nowhere interesting.

Well, that descended into some deep dark secret of Harvest Home territory.

[quote]I believe I read the first season has 10 episodes...not sure if true but they have a hell of a lot to cover according to the previews. I wonder if they wrote Season 1 as a stand alone and then it became a hit (well...a Showtime hit) and now they have to construct new/different narratives.

The writers have planned for 5 seasons. The team is only ~6 months into their 19-month ordeal. There is much, much more to be shown and known.

Misty is psychotic. Poor Coach Ben, I'm sure she killed him.

This was definitely the best episode since the pilot. Whoever wrote this episode should be writing them all. I loved the dynamics between Shauna and her husband, the Doom Homecoming, Nat and the coach. Parts of it felt like a play.

Something weird is up with Jackie starving herself. I have a suspicion that she might be intentionally trying to kill herself with their intention of donating her body for the rest of them to eat. But that seems like it could be a small arc resolved in the next episode where she gets over her doom and gloom complex.

Or maybe this episode changed the dynamics completely and now Jackie is about to killed.

R352, I have a feeling you’re right about Misty killing Coach. I hope it doesn’t happen too soon. I love the character and the actor is so good looking. That boner scene was classic TV. It’s gonna be really tragic when he goes.

I'm definitely hooked. I can't wait for season 2

The director of this episode directed the movie Party Girl

[quote]With just one episode left I don't think we are going to get much in the way of answers

There's not "just one episode left", this series has bee renewed. I already posted this upthread.

It's apparent, so many on DL simply skim the threads they are posting in.

R356, thank you for the information!

Not R356, but I actually found that tidbit cool myself.

Yeah I might lose interest after coach is dead. He's a stud even with the one leg.

Maybe Misty overpowered Coach Ben somehow and was able to strangle him. No one saw her with him, so his death is chalked up to the mushrooms. That's my theory. I'll be shocked if he survived coming out to her.

I meant we might not get many answers before the end of the season. I would have thought that was obvious. Everybody knows it's been renewed and they're trying to drag 5 season out of this story.

It looks like Coach Ben survives after coming out to Misty, for now...

They've released promo photos for episode 10 already

Oh good!

This could be fun.

Yeah, I’m not watching five seasons of this show. It’s not THAT good. They should wrap it up by the end of season 2, period.

It's just another LOST waiting to happen

I really hope they don’t lean too much into the supernatural influence. I find the human psychology of being trapped together far away and how that affects the dynamics far more interesting than some half-baked Wendigo bullshit.

Having said that, I think Van is some kind of zombie.

Van is a horror movie villain with her inability to stay dead. She even has a torn-up, masked face like one now.

I can't see this lasting more than 3 seasons.

I wanted one season and done. I’m not sure I’ll be back for season two.

Yeah they really sucked me in on that first episode. But I don’t know the rest of the episodes have really dragged. Was kinda disappointed.

They're are still a host of characters they haven't introduced. So I will def be there for season 2.

I can’t see this playing out over 5 seasons.

I'm there for season 2

I still have PTSD from Lost, I would not have started watching this if I knew they were planning on 5 seasons.

They're next to a big lake and they're starving. Why aren't they fishing?

r376 last week's episode they showed Travis checking nets so they are fishing

There is a notable absence of edible stuff - its meant to be spooky and unnatural. They remark on it.

I hope they don't do too much supernatural stuff

They have been lost in the woods for months, how come the fat girl they almost burnt alive hasn't lost weight. Is she hording ?

This show is very intense to watch if you’re high.

That last episode was pure filler for the flashback scenes.

By all accounts the they/them actress playing Van is a massive bitch, so here's hoping she dies so we don't have to look at her deformed mug past season 1.

R383 How is she a bitch?

Someone who worked on the set remarked upon it

I really hate this trend of trying to prolong some of these limited series. It’s okay to really love something and let it run its course. I think their excellence gets diluted when the producers try to capitalize on the first season’s success and stretch it out.

[quote]I really hate this trend of trying to prolong some of these limited series.

The show's creators, Ashley Lyle and Bart Nickerson (who are married IRL), already know where the story is headed—and have since before they filmed a single episode.

"We pitched it as a five-season idea," Nickerson explained in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter's TV's Top 5 podcast.

I think Adam was a reporter or writer and was trying to find out the truth...his disappearance will be noticed.

R385 Tell us

I am getting an uneasy Lost vibe when Lottie was saying "it doesn't want to let us go" or whatever, talking about the forest (or wherever they are). They pulled that on Lost and left a lot of loose ends, things we were never given an answer to. That's why I said above I hope they aren't getting into the supernatural too much.

The possibility of it being a wendigo makes sense. Or I also thought maybe mind control by Misty. The shrooms, plus Misty seems a bit demented.

They say they have it all planned out exactly for 5 seasons and know exactly how it pans out is exactly what the writers of LOST said.

R385 So she's a bitch cause some anonymous poster on the internet, who supposedly worked on the set, said so? Okay.

^^True, but to be fair, this is not the only place I've read it. One example of poor behaviour is questionable, but if there are several in various different forums ...

R394 where else have you read it and what did they say?

R376 BECAUSE THE ISLAND DOESN'T WANT THEM TO EAT OR LEAVE OR BE HAPPY.

I'mma give them three seasons because I love Lewis, Ricci, and Lynskey--who's from New Zealand, btw and talks funny!--but that's it.

I agree with a couple of posters who said they hope the supernatural stuff is kept to a minimum. It’s a lot more intense and spooky to me when it’s about surviving in a female Lord of the Flies type thing.

Exactly r397.

I was imagining a mix of Lord of the Flies and the hysterical girls of The Crucible. The Wendigo shit is not my cup of tea - but I’m trying to go with the flow…

R396 They’re not on a fucking island!

R396 You are bringing supernatural stuff in. Woods don't want them to leave. Nothing so far has been supernatural. A lot of unrealistic stuff, like wolves attacking group of humans, which would never happen, coach not getting any kind of infection even though his leg was cut off in the forest, Van not getting any infections even though wolf has bitten half of her face off, her having a tiny scar even though there was a huge hole on the side of her face and you could see her teeth through it, one if the teenage girls fixing her face better than a professional plastic surgeon would, with just a needle and a thread

I laughed when she exposed her face and it was not only completely healed, but there are two small scars as the only aftereffect.

yes, I was just gonna mention that how is it possible for the coach to survive that amputation with no antibiotics and shit?

Misty and her potions - she’s a witch!! That’s how.

Unfortunately I’m starting to feel like this show is going to let me down. I hope I’m wrong. I really like the cast.

Lottie is schizophrenic.

I'm so glad that I never bothered to watch Lost. It seems as if people have PTSD from watching it implode, so much so that it affects their enjoyment of other shows with similar themes.

r406 I know I sound like a drama queen but after getting so involved with LOST and having the creators basically crap on the viewers did make me cynical and wary of getting involved in a show like that again.

Your loss R407 Yellowjackets is great so far.

r408 I am watching it, that's why I am on this thread.

R409 Enjoy it for what it is, not what it reminds you of. If for nothing else just keep watching for Christina Ricci's hilarious performance. It is very entertaining.

[Quote,] Lynskey--who's from New Zealand, btw and talks funny!

This whole time i thought Melanie was American, not a kiwi lol

R399 and R400

Are we watching the same show? Nothing supernatural has happened? What episode are you on? How are there 5 PEOPLE who agree with that?

Also, they landed somewhere in Canada which has a fuck ton of islands. I don't remember anyone saying they're NOT on an island. Did I miss that?

R407 Do you remember when J. J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof said the crew IS NOT dead in S1 but six seasons later they were dead the whole time?

Yeah Canada has a ton of island, but they’re not on one of them.

I'll take your word if you can you confirm it.

I do think the show alludes to supernatural or occult like stuff. I just would prefer that is kept to a minimum if I am correct on that.

What Canadian island are they in in the middle of a mountain range?

I'm sorry but I forgot, do we know where they were flying to? I know it's the nationals for soccer but I don't remember where. I know they are from NJ.

R417 I think it was Seattle and due to a storm they had to go into Canadian airspace. I could also be imagining that entire scenario.

Yes, R418, they were flying to Seattle from NJ and crashed in "the Canadian wilderness."

The pilot said that they were flying "north" to avoid the storm but I don't think he ever said Canada. They could have been over the US Rockies when they crashed. Are we all thinking that it's Canada because that's where the show is filmed?

R412 Where are you mentioning me? I said that nothing supernatural chas happened so far.

I'm thinking Canada because that's how every review characterizes it. I assume reviewers are working off info provided in the press packet.

That little boy in the plane crash survived in Canada with just a Hatchet all that time alone, but these bitches can’t seem to pull it together with all the resources they have? Didn’t any of them read the book? I mean Misty must have right, or even Travis or his brother? I can’t believe e no one’s brought it up yet. And none of them were Girl Scouts?

They’re on, what, their second week in the wilderness, and are supposedly there for 19 months. There’s a lot of ground to cover, including when they’re found and return to school, etc. You have Misty, though, hiding shrooms and stuff in a tree, and she destroyed the black box so there’d be no signal - Misty is up to no good. I’m not guessing there’s much of a supernatural element to it. I think it’s Misty.

You are all retarded Helen Kellers if you didn't notice the first several episodes were filled with supernatural signifying.

I hope it doesn't go too deep on supernatural hocus pocus but if they entirely drop it after all the foreshadowing, it was a cheap trick.

I do think they’re in Canada, they mentioned they’re in a fur trapper’s cabin.

No supernatural stuff? Lottie’s “visions?” The man with no eyes? It’s not awash in supernatural stuff, but it’s definitely simmering.

I find Christina Ricci hysterical & laugh out loud funny in this. The scene where she busted in & snorted the coke! Or when she tried to play off not caring about the reporter holding Caligula hostage…she’s really good at comedy.

So they will drag the mystery for 5 years? It's quite presumptuous of the writers to think they will get renewed that long. I can see many viewers getting frustrated by season 2 (many are now) and then the show cancelled by season 3.

R424 It's not their second week there. Few months have already passed.

R425 Name few of these supernatural things.

R427 The man with no eyes is just Tai's vision. Lottie's visions as well. We will see if she can predict the future or if she a schizophrenic and only thinks she can see it. I'm afraid it will be the latter.

The “supernatural” shit is just hallucinations by mentally ill people.

Oh come on they set up the lesbian's son as super spooky. And now they're going to drop it?

R430 The creepy son talking about someone watching in the tree? His spray painting? The vision/warnings from Lottie (how likely is it that she's SIMPLY schizo). The man with no eyes. Those seem pretty supernatural to me.

I mean...it's not vampires

R432 So...everybody just needs to refill their meds?

R434, that's his mom sleep walking.

Well, if everything has a reasonable explanation, this show is gonna lose its appeal.

R437 Precisely that. Its a delicate balance. Keeps some hocus pocus but don't put in too much. If EVERYTHING is totally rational, and a few seasons in, they will have cheated us with smoke and mirrors for too long.

They have dropped for a moment the weird FRESH tree carvings. But that was heavy foreshadowing.

R434 "someone watching in the tree? His spray painting" It was his mom watching him. Did you missed the part when she was sleepwalking and ended up in a tree when the wolves attacked the other girls. And was eating dirt when sleepwalking, both as a teen and an adult. She also spray painted that stuff on her house doors.

They're in Northern Ontario according to the showrunners. But the show is filmed in B.C.

The things the kid saw were his mother sleepwalking. The man with no eyes can also be explained as hallucinations from Tai not sleeping well. She is aware that the stress is getting to her and that she’s not mentally well. That’s why she sent her wife and child to stay somewhere else. She’s afraid she’s going to do something dangerous.

The things Lottie saw were due to her being unmedicated — she’s schizophrenic or psychotic. Is anyone else seeing or hearing things that aren’t there?

Of course there’s some ambiguity because that makes it more interesting.

the boy was practically catatonic. he destroyed his playroom. Or was that the mother "sleepwalking"?

explain fresh carvings. Explain the spooky music that played with the fresh carvings.

The only aspect that seems supernatural to me at this point might be Lottie. The flashback of her screaming in terror when she was in the car with her parents, which made them turn around and avoid a car collision. Then obviously her ramblings now that she's off of her meds. She might be psychic or she might be mentally ill. We have five seasons to find out.

r442 I assume all that was Tia, freaky that she must have been the one to destroy that doll.

I'm pissed Peter Gadiot died before giving us a good nude scene.

Children act out when their home life is difficult. He was making weird drawings of what he saw, hitting a kid on the playground, pretty typical “acting out” behavior. When viewed through a lens sympathetic of this child’s environment, he’s not sinister at all. He’s trying to cope with a parent who’s unraveling and unstable.

I think of him as Danny from “The Shining”.

Courtney Eaton (Lottie) did an interview with Vulture. Some points: she knew that Lottie was the Antler Queen because Sam Hanratty (teenage Misty) had been on set with the stunt doubles who did that scene and put it together. She trolls reddit and checks out the theories. At this point, she doesn't know if her character is actually having premonitions or is mentally ill. Doesn't know who would play an adult version of Lottie, doesn't seem impressed by the journalist's suggestions of Jordana Brewster or Fairuza Balk.

If Lottie is still alive in the present, they should try to get Katherine Waterston to play her. I think they look alike.

[quote] Travis is such an asshole

Travis is HOT AS FUCK.

The actor Kevin Alves is my dream guy.

He has a fantastic body.

I thought he was Native American, but he's Brazilian and Portugese.

I had no idea he was a Champion Canadian Figure Skater. No wonder his body is so fit.

On top of that, he's an actor and musician too. The guy is multi-talented.

I also had no idea that Kevin was 30 years old.

Damn, he looks young.

[quote] I really hate this trend of trying to prolong some of these limited series. It’s okay to really love something and let it run its course.

A perfect example of the is the Walking Dead.

They have dragged that show out for 10 seasons, just to milk it for every last drop.

As a result, the show absolutely sucks.

However, they premiered a limited series called "Walking Dead: World Beyond," which was explicitly going to run for two seasons, and that's it.

The show ran for exactly two seasons, and it was just perfect.

Everything wrapped up nicely, but best of all, the QUALITY of the show was a million times better than the original Walking Dead series.

But Hollywood is full of greedy whores, who don't give a shit about quality. They just try to make as much money as possible.

Best example would be American version of The Office. They should have ended that after third season. But instead they've turned it into a cartoon version of the UK version. Anything for the bucks

R448 Katherine is a good pick. Mine would be Meg Tilly or Bérénice Marlohe.

R443. Nope. YOU got five seasons. I don't think I'm gonna make it.

By season 5 these girls are going to look old.

I don’t trust Showtime. They abruptly cancelled the last show I watched on their channel - Penny Dreadful - and the end felt really rushed.

They’ll cancel this too if it doesn’t pull in the viewers…

And if they don't cancel it, they'll definitely ruin it. They botched Dexter so badly the first time around, I swore I'd never watch or re watch an episode. Now people on the subreddit are upset that this newest finale was worse than the original one.

[quote]Nope. YOU got five seasons. I don't think I'm gonna make it.

Who cares? Do you expect someone to beg you to watch? Watch it or don't, ...it's not that serious.

You can already tell it's not suited for 5 seasons by the plot devices that have gone nowhere, like Tai's son for example. They're just dragging it out so the pacing is all wrong. Better to have 2 great seasons than 5 disjointed ones.

Dexter is a good comparison - they should have ended that after the trinity killer but instead they milked it and subsequent seasons were terrible.

You bitches are so hung up on the 5 season aspect. You have no idea what the creators have in store for future seasons. Just watch and enjoy where it goes, or don't. So far it's a great ride and I'll watch until the end.

It'll get cancelled 2 seasons in.

You all need to relax. 5 seasons of this show is only 50 episodes. In its first 2 seasons alone Lost made 49! So I'm sure there is more than enough story here for 50 episodes. Also, if the writers realize halfway through that they don't have enough story to fill 5 seasons, they *do* have the option of wrapping it up sooner.

Who knows where the show will end with S5... originally I was thinking that it would end with the teens getting rescued, but that doesn't really make sense, does it? There needs to be something happening in the present time that needs to be resolved. I'm wondering if we're going to see them rescued around S3 or S4 and maybe S5 will be set entirely with the adults.

Also, does it seem like maybe the authorities never found the wreckage or were able to examine the remains of those that died? Because if they could perform autopsies, they might have found evidence of cannibalism on the bones/remains (knife marks, teeth marks, etc). Instead, whether or not they were forest cannibals is a big mystery when they're adults.

Somebody here seems desperate for us to be excited about a dragged out, 5 season concept.

I don't think Travis is very attractive, nor do I think his body is that hot. Different tastes, I guess.

He was a charming twink but even young his body had strange proportions. Now at 30 he's looking flasque. He's cute. I'd jump him in the forest if he were one of the few humans with cocks around.

I remember getting crushes on guys at work who in a normal situation I would not be interested in. So I can see how Travis would start to look good to them.

Homeland was another show that went downhill very quickly. It went on for too long.

R469 Being at work is a normal situation! Or are you working on an oil platform and go home once a year?

R458 JESUS. Are you 12?

The real question is...why are you so defensive? I mean...did you make friends through the TV with Tai, Shauna, and Natalie?

Do we need to make some calls on your behalf?

So, Christina Ricci was pregnant the whole time she was filming this and was up to seven months by the end.

R469 - after a couple weeks? Do you live in Bugtussle?

r469 here. What I meant is that somebody who you wouldn't normally be attracted to can become attractive when you are around them a lot and get to know them. My coworker who normally I wouldn't have been attracted to was one of the few other men at my job, we worked together all day and I got to know him and ended up being attracted to him.

The last 10 minutes of the season finale are intense.

Okay, I can understand how they were able to pitch 5 seasons now.

Why were the girls wearing sneakers and boots during their party, they obviously had the dresses and would have brought the shoes along for those outfits, yet none of them are wearing nice footwear? I think this is an important clue and possibly that they had planned ahead to gut Travis and it had nothing to do with the mushrooms.

I don’t feel bad for the reporter/fixer or whoever she was, it’s her own damn fault, if she had been a better person and not smoked she’d still be alive. Misty gave her a chance, she chose wrong.

Finally someone who leans into the Jersey Girl accent on this show! She was on the team, but it couldn’t be the one who was injured on the field, because she wasn’t in the same class to be at the reunion. Did we meet her before, and why didn’t she go on the trip?

I want Travis to sit on my face.

I would eat his ass like there was no tomorrow.

That is the same character that was injured in the pilot- who was supposedly a freshman in 96- and had no accent then. Nor did her adult 2021 self have an accent in the pilot either.

I thought the resolution of the Jackie story was satisfying and disturbing. Some people on Reddit thought she’d appear as an adult at some point and played by Robin Tunney, which would’ve been perfect casting.

Were Spice Girls already a thing when the girls crashed in the woods? They were mentioning Spice Girls

The coach is such a spinless wuss.

The actress who plays young Shauna is really good.

Also I’m picturing the chorus of Enya’s “Amarantine” playing as the girls hunt each other in the woods.

Enya is perfect music for so many different occasions, from cradle to grave.

As someone from NJ I thought the accent was ridiculous and over the top. There’s no way these girls from an upper middle class suburb would sound that way. So I’m just gonna assume that girl spent the last 25 years living on Staten Island.

I don’t think the Spice Girls became a thing until late ‘96 so it’s too early for them to have been into them. But Wannabe technically dropped in June ‘96 so maybe Van was into them before it was cool?

Christina Ricci deserves an Emmy nod. She injects just the right about humor into a very dark show and somehow makes a completely psychotic character likable.

I liked the finale but Jackie freezing to death was sort of lame. I like that Lottie is being set up as the villain.

Right amount of humor*** I’m hungover

RIP Jackie. At least she stuck to her principles and called people out though I was cringing when she took all of them on. You knew they were going to gang up on her.

Now that Antler Queen Lottie is starting to believe that she needs to make sacrifices to the Forest Gods to get food, I can see how someone will eventually be singled out and end up in the pit. Based on the hair, I think Pit Girl from the pilot episode is Mari.

It's going to be a long wait to see S2. I don't think they've even started writing it yet.

I liked the finale after watching it, initially... but after having more time to ponder it, I'm not sure about this show. I just KNOW that it's going to be disappointing. I didn't watch Lost, but just HEARING about it from fans traumatized me.

I wonder if the writers are going to rip-off the nutso ideas the Reddit fans have to make the show "work."

I do think there is a lot of material for 5 seasons. they can explore each of their stories in more detail...

[quote]I liked the finale after watching it, initially... but after having more time to ponder it, I'm not sure about this show. I just KNOW that it's going to be disappointing.

"I can't enjoy this now because it might be bad in season four!" seems an odd way to consume television to me, but you do you.

Might be bad in season four? I'm worried about it being bad in season TWO!

[quote] The coach is such a spinless wuss.

He’s smart. Girls are fucking mean. These girls are next level. They get high on mushrooms once and they’re ready to slit some throats. I’d shut the fuck up too if I were him.

[quote] I wonder if the writers are going to rip-off the nutso ideas the Reddit fans have to make the show "work."

Hopefully, this won’t happen R493, since the creators have a 5 year vision/outline for the show. The first season point of view and plot was distinct enough that I can’t see them fishing for ideas via Reddit/social media.

The problem with this being 5 season, is that it’s not filmed on a network show schedule. It could be 7-8 year before the 5th season finally airs. As mentioned above, they haven’t even started writing season 2.

We can hope that they’ll film a few of them back to back so the timeline to air them is accelerated.

the actor playing HS Travis will be nearing 40.

[quote] Why were the girls wearing sneakers and boots during their party,

You've obviously never worn heels in the dirt.

[quote]Now that Antler Queen Lottie is starting to believe that she needs to make sacrifices to the Forest Gods to get food, I can see how someone will eventually be singled out and end up in the pit. Based on the hair, I think Pit Girl from the pilot episode is Mari.

I still think the girl in the pit from the first episode is Lottie. Same height and hair. Something will happen where she makes a mistake and Misty pushes her out as leader. How her name is associated with this cult that just kidnapped Natalie is a mystery, but I think it all might come down to Taissa. Didn't the fixer say it was Taissa who hired her to begin with? And now her wife has seen Taissa's little offerings in the cellar to win the election, I'm feeling like maybe Lottie's 'spirit' took her over in the woods and she has a DID thing going on? I don't know but I really liked this season.

Also, I agree with a poster upthread that the younger actress who plays Shauna is excellent. Her scene over dead Jackie was heartbreaking and it explains a lot about adult Shauna. I also think the actress playing young Natalie is very good.

Oh dearing myself several times for R499

Okay, R501 here and I retract that statement about Lottie in the opening scene. I just watched it again and the girl was shorter (also I think the one who stood over her body after she fell in is Van). But since we've not heard hide nor hair of adult Lottie, I feel like the rest of the survivors think that she's dead. And maybe she is. They could go in a lot of directions with this.

The way the world is going half of us may not live to see season two and yet there is all this handwriting over season five? Get a grip people, tomorrow you may wake up dead in your bed, enjoy life and streaming shows while you can.

^not handwriting, we’re typing on cellphones!

R497 Nah, he just has no backbone.

That was supposed to be handwringing, but I see spell check doesn’t seem to like that and juts interjects whatever it god damn wants!

Apparently the second season will already be out this year.

Without Robby Benson, I'm not interested.

Liked the ending. My problem with the episode is this - where the fuck were Nat and Travis (not to mention the little bro)? They wouldn’t go back to the cabin and start a search for the brother? Seemed off to me but other than that - I liked it.

Tiassa’s smile after winning was fabulous and I like cult leader Lottie.

This show is so dark - I sorta laughed when the missing person’s segment played, but was sad when the bear got it.

Why did Taissa make it seem like Simone left her? Taissa insisted, for Simone and Sammy’s safety. What a cunt.

Yes r511! I thought that last episode. I honestly thought I missed something bc she point blank told her to leave and now she’s acting hurt? Makes zero sense.

R512, sheer manipulation, I guess. After finding out what she did to the dog, I’m done caring about her.

No one realizes this show isn't about the girls, it's about coach and his suffering! Maroon and zero (legal) prospects for the D!

R506 he's not exactly in great shape and Misty is the only one taking care of him. Pissing off the other girls isn't a good idea.

The coach is completely dependent on them. Staying on their good side is necessary for his survival.

I am confused. Whose dog was that? Or was it some random dog that was killed?

R517, that was Taissa’s family dog, Biscuit. Remember their dog went missing and the wife and son were making “missing dog” posters?

Guess she sacrificed the family dog in a black magic ritual to win the election. And maybe she was tempted to sacrifice her wife and/or kid to get more than a senator’s seat.

Not looking forward to the "cult" angle.

Really? I am, R519.

I was rewatching the pilot last night and was reminded that Lottie's family is rich. And also in a conversation between Shauna and Taissa, she asked if "the others" had been found or heard from since and so I think we are going to find out in S2 that a few more of the girls are still alive. There were six who left the campfire after they made a meal of the slain girl in the pit. So Shauna, Natalie, Tai, Misty, and...? I feel like Vanessa is def one of the alive ones.

I have a feeling something supernatural is going to happen to Van. I don’t see how she survived the mauling and the plane burning. When she came to after being on the fire, she was seeing everything with a blue tint. If it is a Wendingo, it’ll probably possess her and turn her into a monster. Tai will have to kill her and it will be a sad moment.

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I wonder if Misty is named for PLAY MISTY FOR ME, the fabulous Jessica Walter starred.

It would make sense, the writers seem to be aware of everything.

R523 He only admitted that to her because he was high on mushrooms. And what does have one leg has to do with anything? He's still the only adult there and should be the authority. A girl freezed to death because he was too scared to say anything to a bunch of whiny teenage girls.

Whiny teenage girls with knives and two legs.

[quote] There were six who left the campfire after they made a meal of the slain girl in the pit.

Wait. How do you know that?

What name is Misty a nickname for?

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Can somebody explain what happened with the bear? That was supernatural, no? Is it remotely plausible that a teenage girl could have gotten a lucky hit/stab in and killed a BEAR? Did she sever the spine?

Misty SHOWED the journalist when she was injecting the cigarettes. They are a threat about the journalist's father? - blackmail. She didn't seem stupid - so she forgot?

the bare offered itself as a sacrifice. Do with that fact as you please.

Like Jackie said, there was probably something wrong with the bear.

the bear. oops

R533 listen "Debbie There is a Rational Explanation Downer". The writers are deliberately playing many situations as ambiguous so if that is all they have, and everything is god damned dreary rational, then it's cheap writing and will wear thin quickly.

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R529 He should have become an authority as soon as they crashed, one or both legs. Now it's too late, the girls can see they can push him over. Also, there was no violence in the begging, so it's not like he had to fear for his life. Hell, there wasn't any so far, apart from when they were all high on mushrooms. It's not like the girls would stab him if he had speak up and tell them that Jackie stays in the cabin. You guys are being ridiculous. It's not some war scenario, him being disabled doesn't change the fact that he should be the authority and the most logical person there, not the most quiet one.

"It's all perfectly rational. So the music and writing and mis en scene is just garbage trickery designed disappoint viewers."

--- A RECIPE FOR SERIES SUCCESS!

R537 How, exactly, would Coach assert is authority amongst like 10 teenagers? Make them run laps? Put them in detention?

By being the rational and smart one.

Who is left that is smart and rational? Natalie, Travis, Coach Ben, and probably Javi. Everyone else is batshit or getting there quickly. He's outnumbered and he's disabled.

R540 Okay... so you're telling me ONE rational person is going to overpower 10 crazy people? Huh. Okay.

I'm thinking of the World According to Garp. When are the girls going to just start sitting on Coach's dick.

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Travis is able-bodied and he couldn't get away from the crazy girls. Coach Ben is a goner, they're going to kill him and barbecue him, it's only a matter of time.

Did I miss it or did they find Travis’ brother? If not how could he not have frozen too?

Exactly ^

Nat, Travis and Javi are all out in that snow. Where were they all night?

R542 overpower? What the fuck are you people talking about? They are not on the front line in a war. He didn't even see what the girls were doing while high on mushrooms. And wasn't even a bit curious when Jackie confronted Shauna about her trying to kill Travis and when he heard for the first time when happened the night before. Yes, he should be the rational voice, but clearly he isn't.

No, I mean overpower by majority rule. You really think the girls would listen to him? 🤣😂

The coach is an assistant HS soccer coach, not a navy seal. And his injury was significant (although the show seems to be playing it down). But even if the coach is a natural leader with miraculous self-healing abilities, he would have been completely out of it the first week. They would have learned to get along without him and he would have had to re-assert his authority from scratch. While being unable to walk.

The coach was too traumatized by having his leg cut off to assert any authority about anything from the start.

We posted at the same time r550.

But you more succinctly, R551.

[quote]You guys are being ridiculous.

They're not the ones who are refusing to let this debate go, R548. How many fucking posts are you going to make about this while having your little hissy fit, Mugatu? It's not that difficult to imagine. Hell, even fucking Jesus Girl challenged him when he tried to be the adult and put his one foot down about her leaving in the plane. "What are you going to do about it?" He didn't have much of an answer to that.

That said, I love Coach. His exchange with Misty in the woods when he tells her he's gay was high comedy. I think some of you are taking this show way too seriously.

Am I supposed to know who or what Mugatu is? I'm refusing to let this debate go? I am just answering to the people that are quoting me, dum dum. Just like you are doing it. That's what the forums are for, if you didn't know. Yeah, she challenged him cause he's a spinless wuss. Like I said.

Christina Ricci is fantastic in this.

That’s my takeaway.

[quote] I am just answering to the people that are quoting me

No, you're not, weirdo. You won't acknowledge that anyone else has a point and that there is only one possible answer in this scenario.

[quote]The coach is such a spinless wuss.

[quote]Nah, he just has no backbone.

[quote] A girl freezed to death because he was too scared to say anything to a bunch of whiny teenage girls.

[quote]He should have become an authority as soon as they crashed, one or both legs. Now it's too late, the girls can see they can push him over.

[quote]overpower? What the fuck are you people talking about?

[quote]Yeah, she challenged him cause he's a spinless wuss. Like I said.

Over and fucking over. You're insisting to all of us that we don't know what the hell we're talking about and that you are RIGHT, by golly, and that there is only one reason why the adult man wouldn't be in control of all of these girls and its because he's a coward. Why can't we see it? We're all sooooo ridiculous! But sure, you're the reasonable one here.

[quote]Misty SHOWED the journalist when she was injecting the cigarettes. They are a threat about the journalist's father? - blackmail. She didn't seem stupid - so she forgot?

R531, Misty was injecting the chocolate candies for the box she was going to send to Jessica's father to threaten her, not cigarettes. Obviously, the reporter thought she'd outsmarted Misty by the time she let her go and didn't consider that the box of cigarettes Misty had thrown in the trash would also be laced. I don't think that was her being stupid, just cocky.

The Coach is deadweight. He can't even hike out of there by himself even if he wanted to. He'll be the first one they sacrifice to Lottie's Forest God.

He and Jackie were acting like they were still back in civilization, not starving in the forest. The rules of conduct have gone out the window and only the strong are going to survive. He doesn't get to be Boss just because he was back in Jersey. No one has any reason to listen to him.

Can a one legged coach still be a power top?

By about half way through I was only watching for misty

The SURE are lucky to have found that cabin. I find it cozy. They would be set if only they found fish and animals to eat, but there is, suspiciously, nothing much living in their wild paradise. They have water, wood, shelter, and tools. No food. I guess they will eventually run out of candles. They shouldn't be so generous in their use. Kristy can probably make bear tallow candles. 🤪

[quote] The things Lottie saw were due to her being unmedicated — she’s schizophrenic or psychotic. Is anyone else seeing or hearing things that aren’t there? Of course there’s some ambiguity because that makes it more interesting.

I’m going to try and keep an open mind to this type of storytelling because I get what you’re saying. I’m just not sure if I can genuinely appreciate it. But it’s a little bit in the same category as Picnic at Hanging Rock? I mean just a little.

Has anybody here watched the documentary Woodlands Dark and Days Bewitched: A History of Folk Horror? I watched it last week on Shudder and, obviously, it's all about the folk horror genre and some of the aspects discussed in the documentary REALLY reminded me of Yellowjackets.

R563 thanks for that. very instructive.

Came for the cannibalism, stuck around for the Lewis/Ricci dynamic.

I love the runner that Misty is obsessed with Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals.

Misty, at, times, sounds and looks like she’s channeling Elle Woods from the Legally Blond movies.

It will be interesting to see the other girls’ back stories and see who is still alive. There are a lot of girls stranded there. Maybe I missed it but does the dark-skinned Black girl have a name? She’s the former Girl Scout who knew what plants were poisonous and stitched Van’s face.

R561 It's like the cabin has been transformed from the shithole it was when they found it.

‘Yellowjackets’ star Melanie Lynskey says she was body-shamed on set

The Yellowjackets have each other’s backs.

Melanie Lynskey, who plays Shauna in “Yellowjackets,” says her fellow actors rallied to her defense after she was body-shamed by a member of production.

The New Zealand-born actress claims that someone on the crew for the creepy Showtime drama series asked about her weight.

“They were asking me, ‘What do you plan to do? I’m sure the producers will get you a trainer. They’d love to help you with this,’” Lynskey, 44, recalled to Rolling Stone.

Lynskey said co-stars Tawny Cypress, Christina Ricci and Juliette Lewis stood by her, with Lewis even writing a letter to producers on her behalf.

“It was really important to me for [Shauna] to not ever comment on my body, to not have me putting a dress on and being like, ‘I wish I looked a bit better,’” she explained. “I did find it important that this character is just comfortable and sexual and not thinking or talking about it, because I want women to be able to watch it and be like, ‘Wow, she looks like me and nobody’s saying she’s the fat one.’ That representation is important.”

Sadly, it hasn’t just been the production staff who have criticized Lynskey’s appearance.

The actress says fans have questioned whether Adam (Peter Gadiot) — the hunky artist Shauna has an affair with — would really be attracted to her.

“I’m just like, ‘Wow, really? That’s where people’s heads are at, that the most important thing is being thin or young?’” she exclaimed.

Page Six has reached out to Showtime for comment.

In real life, Lynskey is married to actor Jason Ritter. The two share one child together, a 3-year-old daughter.

The “Sweet Home Alabama” star has been vocal about her past struggles with an eating disorder over the years.

“It’s a bummer to have to say this, but the biggest challenge I’ve faced in my career would be my own body image and the way that the industry views people’s bodies,” she told Denizen last year.

”There’s sort of an implicit expectation of perfection because everybody looks the same. But I had a bad eating disorder for 10 years, and even when I was like 58 kilograms [128 pounds], I would still be shamed in wardrobe fittings for not being sample size.”

What's the point of casting a frump if they're just going to criticize her for being... a frump? Melanie Lynskey is no Chrissy Metz.

Oh, she’s the woman with the baby in the bar in Sweet Home Alabama! How did a Kiwi get to Alabama?

She was on 2 and a half men for a long time too.

R557 In other words, you are also a spineless wuss.

"The actress says fans have questioned whether Adam (Peter Gadiot) — the hunky artist Shauna has an affair with — would really be attracted to her.

“I’m just like, ‘Wow, really? That’s where people’s heads are at, that the most important thing is being thin or young?’” she exclaimed."

Looks like she is visiting Datalounge. People (or a person) here were constantly bringing this exact thing up.

R567 her name is Akilah.

The finale, when they are all waking up from the mushrooms, reminded me so much of PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK (1975), down to the music. I couldn't find a clip of them waking up, but here's them passing out on the rocks:

Sorry but questioning why a hot younger guy like Adam would be interested in frumpy Shauna is understandable.

People typically date within their level. It’s not often you’d see hot, young guys objectifying a Shauna. It’s the same in the gay world. I’m technically a Shauna, and Instahoes wouldn’t give me the time of day, never mind date me.

Shauna’s not-hotness is acknowledged. Her daughter alludes to it when she says something like, “I guess you’ve got that Yellowjacket’s thing going on.” And it’s unstated, but I think it’s obvious that Shauna’s eventual suspicion of her bf is due, in part, to their physical mismatch. Also she used that and her embarrassment when she was placating the other women before they got rid of the body.

Adam isn't hot. I don't find it that far-fetched.

I'm sure Adam will have been part of the cult.

The DL is always bemoaning the hot guy/dumpy wife dynamic here.

Some young guys are happy to bang older women. She has a mega rack, and it’s not like she’s 70.

These chatters go into a deep dive.

R581, the series creators specifically said he is not involved with the group that kidnap Nat at the end.

I'm sure Adam was working on a story....

R575, thank you for your response. I may have to watch the whole season a 3rd time. There are so many characters that the names don't always register.

I'd like to see Kimiko Glenn, Brook SoSo on Orange is the New Black, for adult Lottie.

R587 She's 32. Juliette Lewis is 48.

^ She's only 7 years older than the actress that plays Lottie. The crash happened 25 years ago.

Isn’t she also tiny? And Lottie is the tallest girl? I might be wrong, but that’s my impression.

Yeah I wasn’t distracted by the Adam/Shauna thing. Lots of men are into bigger women. There are lots of guys on this site even who are into dad bods and bears. He might not openly call her his girlfriend or marry her but it’s easy to believe he’d get horny for her if he was into that sort of thing.

I never noticed that they never directly addressed her weight and I found that refreshing. It was normalizing.

[quote]She has a mega rack, and it’s not like she’s 70.

Say what you will about Shauna's dumpiness, she does have one amazing asset. Notice that the dress her husband bought for her showed that feature off. It seems like Jeff has been on Shauna's side for a long time and we even saw him defend her to Jackie's parents. The fact that he read her diaries years ago but never let on suggests that he might even admire her for surviving the way she did. He digs his wife's survivalist instincts and recognizes that she's much smarter than him. I can see why he's still with her.

R583, appreciate the link but as I listened to Joanna Robinson go on about reddit's theories I was reminded why I loathe her so much. She's got to be the fucking laziest critic around.

I can't see why Shauna is still with Jeff. She could have done better than the prom king who runs a failing furniture store. It's funny how she accused Jackie of peaking in high school and then that's exactly what happened to her.

The creators said in an interview that the years immediately after their return will be explored and I can't wait. I want to see why Shauna didn't go to Brown (or anywhere else), just settled in and went through the motions of mediocrity.

Shauna’s storyline is going to have to explain what happened to the baby she’s carrying. Even if the child doesn’t survive, that additional trauma (on top of everything else) might make her feel linked to Jeff and less willing to leave her hometown.

Jordana Brewster for adult Lottie.

I wish Kate Winslet would play Lottie so we could get Heavenly Creatures reunion.

Lauren Ambrose or Thora Birch for adult Van

Kimiko Gelman would be perfect but she’s 55. She still looks amazing though. I loved her in the short lived 80’s musical teen tv show Rags to Riches.

I’m much, much younger than these actresses, but with a little aging makeup, I know I can play Lottie!

Natasha Lyonne would also be a good adult Van