Why is Taylor Swift resurrecting this long dead and FAKE relationship now?!

Sorry. Mean to write: "... about this fictitious romance..." Mea culpa.

Before one of you starts screaming that "THERE WAS ALREADY A POST ON THIS!!!!" -- I did a search before I posted and nothing came up. I did my due diligence. So no screeching, please.

Short answer: 'Dropping hints' about her famous 'exes' or engaging in manufactured 'feuds' with other celebrities is the only way she can get attention.

No one with a mental age over 16 falls for her shtick.

I agree, R3. But WHY hasn't she progressed from behaving like a 16 year-old-girl. I know a lot of gay men who still act like that, but I chalk it up to Post Traumatic Stress. What is Little Miss Millionaire's excuse?

Taylor Swift is a younger generation "Karen."

What the fuck is wrong with her? Does she not get the concept of dating or having a relationship that may not work out? Why does she feel compelled to try and humiliate the guy after a relationship has run its course? She always plays the fucking victim as if she did nothing wrong. She never considers that maybe she's the problem a relationship ended. Yes, it's upsetting, but this little girl, kiss-and-tell bullshit all the time is so inappropriate.

I saw her perform on SNL last week. She went on for 10 minutes with an accompanying video about something that happened five years ago. What she does is not right, and she should deal with relationships much more maturely. It doesn't matter if it's about Jake G or someone else. She's wrong to carry on like this especially five years later. Move on. Repair yourself. You're not blameless. STFU.

Her mental illness is histrionic disorder and greed. GREED she is very good at. Whatever brings in the bucks, honey. There is no such thing as underestimating the taste of the people. People have ZERO taste and they have made her a zillionaire.

Look up in the sky!

It's a fag!

It's a dyke!

It's a fag and a dyke shilling a ten year old song!

R4 Upper middle class Suburban princess syndrome. Life is expected to be a Disney fairytale. So minor unpleasant experiences become built up into unbearable traumas.

^ Per our contract I get a cut of the re-release profits.

Taylor is pegging Jakie with a 12 inch black ribbed dildo

Even my grandma knows The Truth All Too Well

I'm no fan of Taylor Swift, but I don't think she's trying to resurrect her long ago tryst with Jake.

She re-recorded all her music so she can get more money/royalties, and this is one song that is getting some attention. She didn't perform it on SNL because she's still pining over Jake Gyllenhaal. She's viewing her 'pieces' as 'art' at this point.

^^

R5 You'll feel differently about her after you go thru puberty.

Jake G must be pretty pissed to have his name dragged all over the internet over this AGAIN after a decade. With extra pissy verses added.

R12 Are you blind?

You're obsessed with Taylor Swift. Perhaps it's time to grow up.

Why? Because she has another piece of shit to sell. And people love it. That's why.

R12 Or Stupid?

R12 Or both?

Yep. It’s all about money. She’s stirring up all this little drama so all these girls go out and re-buy her records. She could give a rats ass about Jake Gyllenhaal.

This has been done to death

Little girls are not the fan base of a 31 yo still playing Barbie Princess. Who the hell buys her product?

I, as a lesbian, feel very sorry for the men she has dated. Imagine wanting to be in a relationship, and know that she is fishing for songs. The relationship ends and she writes music and wins awards. Id like her to thank her exes in her speeches. Maybe they just realised she wasnt the one and moved on, unlike the teenage mentality of her.

Duh. Jake has like 10 movies coming out. And he's 41 and never been married.

Jake Gayllenhaals obit will read:

"He was fucked in a tent by oscar winner Heath Ledger."

^ That picture looks fake. I remember Heath never wore a condom.

you mean they can fake pictures like that?

R24 She's fishing for fish.

Gay or straight she has stone cold eyes and RBF.

R23 Who the hell buys her product?

You rang?

Just because a guy dates Taylor Swift doesn't mean he's Gay...

... I'm not Gay

... Either am I Gay

... Oh, who are we kidding?

[quote]Taylor Swift is a younger generation "Karen."

You really have no clue what a Karen is if you think she's a Karen.

[quote]Why does she feel compelled to try and humiliate the guy after a relationship has run its course?

He was 29, she was 20. He also treated her terribly and she considers it a relationship that heavily influenced her. He took her to meet his parents and siblings then accused her of thinking it was more than it was. Perhaps he was uniquely an asshole.

[quote]She never considers that maybe she's the problem a relationship ended. Yes, it's upsetting, but this little girl, kiss-and-tell bullshit all the time is so inappropriate.

She doesn't always have bad things to say. Both songs she wrote about Harry Styles were positive. Style is one of my favorites and when I had to admit I don't entirely hate her music.

Don't look at me, my heart belongs to...

... This guy

^ Subscribes to US, People, OK and believes reality TV is real.

R36

Calvin Harris is not gay for fucks sake

Apparently her fans wish to emulate her love life.

^ She should start a dating app Fag Hags Are Us

OP, do you know Taylor and Jake personally that made you think it was a fake romance? Were you sleeping under her bed at the time? It always amazes me when people make judgement calls about a celebrity's life, someone who doesn't even know you exist.

Wasn't he the one who took her virginity? If so, that's a pretty big deal whether it was fake or not.

@r39 "^ Subscribes to US, People, OK and believes reality TV is real. "

Ooh, sometimes you make me so mad

R24 Thank you thank you thank you!

R42 So for just $42.99 a month fat chick can get hooked up with cute gay guys who will hold their hand?

You're too fat to flounce R45

What in the world did Jake Gyllenhaal. do to her to deserve a 10 minute dirge?

Did Chrissy Metz just get engaged?

Wanna bet?

R40, sweety. You're posting GIFs and images in this thread like it's 2014. You just told me you were a boomer by doing that.

R49 I just asked her...

R52 You just told me you fingers are too fat to post GIF's

"Calvin Harris is not gay for fucks sake "

;-)

" Wasn't he the one who took her virginity? If so, that's a pretty big deal whether it was fake or not."

R44 Tells ya all ya need to know about her fan base.

"Calvin Harris is not gay for fucks sake "

Definitely a straight guy's house

Didn't she write a song about keeping your legs closed until marriage? Something about not giving it away like the dirty whore she went school with.

r57 Thats how it looked under the former owner - not Calvin. Also said previous owner is also straight so......?

I'm gay and I would have fucked Taylor Swift at her peak. Also is she had me at 30 I was as good looking as her other famous bfs. She has good taste in gay boyfriends, I give her that.

R58 No. That was me.

R59 Her publicist has arrived.

I know these people make a ton of money but what sad phoney fearful lives they must lead. If you can't be yourself whats the point of being anything?

Swift and most actors /entertainers are malignant narcissists. Their "reality" is what they say it is. When they say it is. When they are done with it POOF! it disappears. It never happened. In the actual real world they would be diagnosed as mentally ill.

The whole defense of Taylor and her "relationships" is proof of why she's so successful - her fans are so unbelievably gullible.

R64 Jake's Reality

Swift is obsessed with her career, which means keeping young fans, which is most easily done by selling a false heterosexual life that she pretends to live.

Sad. She could trade teeny boppers in for mature adult audiences (like Adele, Sam Smith) and come out as bisexual and date women openly, but wants to milk young and conservative fans for all they’re worth by selling old stories in a new package.

How can a 31 yo woman appeal to 12-15 yo? Hasn't her original fan base of 10 years ago out grown her fairytale schmaltz once they actually started fuckin real boys? Like Hanna Montana's base did which caused Miley Cyrus to drop the cutesy virgin act. I would think Swift has aged out. Or as we suspect is her base just fat 30+ incels like R45.

OP, you type frau.

Gay men aren't as invested in hatred of Taylor Swift as *some* women are.

I wonder if it has something to do with Olivia Rodrigo and her driver's license song? Is Taylor threatened by the new gal in town, releasing a song about her bad break up? That is Taylor's main brand, and someone younger is coming for it?

" new gal in town" .. Go Boomer

R69 Polling gay men.

How must Gyllenhaal feel about this rather double edged sword of recent publicity? Taylor's SNL vid appears to have dredged up all the snarky gay rumors he's spent a decade trying to bury.

I guess for Jake, any publicity is good publicity at this point.

R62 No, but he called you out and made you look stupid.

R67 Why would a straight woman date women openly? Or secretly for that matter?

Wtf is this thread. Lol

I think Taylor wants to be more like Dolly Parton (another closeted Lesbian?). Mainstream, likable (aw, that poor thing, always falling for the wrong guy and then going through a tough break up), and so not edgy.

^ is there anyone that isn't gay and closeted on DL?

[Quote] Wasn't he the one who took her virginity?

I thought that was Mayer?? Or was he the one that made her get an abortion???

Yes, it was reportedly Jake who popped her cherry.

I think the DL's fixation on Jake Gyllenhaal with this music is a little nutso.

She rerecorded her album as you said, OP, for business reasons. She is making the most of it. She created a version of her older album that includes a lot of bonus tracks, including a 10-minute-long version of the song 'All Too Well.' That's fan service. She has mentioned that the original song was 10 minutes long and her crazed fans have wanted to hear that version ever since and so she recorded it because the album is called 'Taylor's version' and because it will give her fans who already own the original album a major incentive to buy the new one since the song is not available for download as a single, only with purchase of the full album.

And since the song is so freaking long, she made a 'short film' music video to promote it.

I don't connect any of this with Jake Gyllenhaal. It's just a song that exists on its own. The song, on its merits as a song, is her most critically acclaimed song. She made a splash performing it at the Grammys years ago.

A lot of songs are inspired by romances or breakups and the relationships behind them are superfluous. Many writers write from their experiences. That's where memorable specific details in the writing come from.

Try listening to the song as just a song and not as an adolescent attack. The edited version is a well-written song that stands on its own beyond gossip-column fodder.

Didn't she buy a massive compound next to the Kennedys when she decided she wanted to date Patrick Schwarzenneger?

Yeah, nothing to see here, folks.

[quote]She definitely suffers from some form of mental illness.

I hate that stupid people have to say stupid things like this for anyone on Datalounge to pay attention to them.

I wish she had more varied interests than dating because she's a really talented lyricist. This is from her 'Red' album, which she wrote in her early 20s:

[quote] Put your lips close to mine as long as they don't touch. Out of focus, eye to eye, until the gravity's too much. And I'll do anything you say if you say it with your hands. I'd be smart to walk away, but you're quicksand. This slope is treacherous. This path is reckless. This slope is treacherous and I, I, I like it. I can't decide if it's a choice, getting swept away. I hear the sound of my own voice asking you to stay. All we are is skin and bone trained to get along, forever going with the flow, but you're friction. Two headlights shine through the sleepless night and I will get you, get you alone. Your name has echoed through my mind and I think you, think you should know. Nothing safe is worth the drive and I will follow you, follow you home. I'll follow you, follow you home. This slope is treacherous. This path is reckless. This slope is treacherous and I like it.

It's a really well written song and for all the talk about Taylor's unhinged relationships...the song is stalker-y and a little unhinged and obsessive, and that's what makes it so much better than just a sappy love song.

She's obviously got the dramatic mind of a writer. That's what people like about her songs. While all young people feel intense emotions, she can articulate those feelings in a way that is a little hyperbolic in reality but it reflects the inner feelings of infatuated young people.

This other song is a bit of a trifle, but she honestly really captures exactly what it was like for me to be 20-22:

[quote] It feels like a perfect night for breakfast at midnight, to fall in love with strangers. Yeah, we're happy, free, confused at the same time. It's miserable and magical. Yeah, tonight is the night we forget about the deadlines. It's time. I don't know about you, but I'm feeling 22. Everything will be just fine if you keep me next to you. You don't know about me, but I bet you want to. It seems like one of those nights, this place is too crowded, too many cool kids. It seems like one of those nights we quit this whole scene and end up dreaming instead of sleeping. Yeah, we're happy, free, confused in the best way. Yeah, it's miserable and magical. I don't know about you, but I'm feeling 22...

It's just a peppy pop song but she really captures a specific time in life with her lyrics.

My issue with her is that she's now in her 30s and still writing songs about high school romances, which feels weird and stunted. She seems like a talented writer and pop musician and she has insights into tumultuous relationships and feelings, but I wish she were more intellectually curious and would explore other topics.

The gossip in NYC theater circles is that Jake Gyllenhaal is bisexual.

I believe it because a grown ass gay man would never use this nutjob as a beard. A stupid gayling like Taylor Lautner who doesn't know any better, yes. Gyllenhaal was like 30 when they dated.

I hate to say this but Jake Gyllenhaal and Taylor Lautner are among the actors who were highly sexualized at young ages and who grew up in the entertainment industry, so the chances they were not both coerced into sex acts with older men in the business are very slim. It's a reality everyone knows about even when they try to kill the conversation a la Barbara Walters.

Lautner was a child actor who ended up a shirtless pinup as soon as he was legal, and he does have gay mannerisms. I would guess his sexual psychology is probably pretty fucked up from molestations and public exploitation. If he is gay-gay and not bisexual, then he probably has a very skewed worldview compared with those of us who weren't reared in Hollywood by exploitative old men.

Jake G was 19 in Donnie Darko and the movie features voiceovers of him talking about jerking off, etc. His parents both work in the industry and he was very cute when he was young, so I would not be at all surprised if he got some roles with sexual favors or at least flirting/not rejecting Weinstein-type behaviors.

I think the reason Hollywood is so homophobic and actors remain closeted to this day, when that's a really antiquated way of being, is that there's so much preying on young men within the entertainment industry that many young men give into it and then always associate shame with being gay because they were exploited.

[Quote] but I wish she were more intellectually curious and would explore other topics.

Or maybe she could focus on Dylan O'Brien's nudes that just leaked.

[quote]Little girls are not the fan base of a 31 yo still playing Barbie Princess. Who the hell buys her product?

30-ish frauen and gays with a mental age < 16

Whoever her market is she is a genius at exploiting it.

[quote]Jake G was 19 in Donnie Darko and the movie features voiceovers of him talking about jerking off, etc. His parents both work in the industry ...

R87, He was a kid who went to school with other famous kids who had parents that were actively working in the industry. You just explained why he both would have been protected from other people and why he was able to book roles. He got the nepotism stamp early on for a reason.

And his sister STILL acts circles around him and gets the critical acclaim he only wishes he could have.

That reminds me of when they replaced Kate Holmes in Batman with Maggie Gyllenhaal because in that installment they wanted an actress who could actually act.

R82 Try listening to the song?

R87 Pedo Princess has arrived. What took ya so long freak?

R78 think Taylor wants to be more like Dolly Parton

In her dreams. Dolly Parton is an authentic human being and a major artistic talent for 40 years. Swift is an phoney auto tuned Barbie with the song writing skills of an autistic ten year old. She'll wind an aging parody.

R88 Useless without snaps.

R81 " it was reportedly Jake who popped her cherry"

Hey hey pop away!

R88 lpsg

R91 He's great in Nightcrawler, Prisoners, Enemy, and Brokeback Mountain.

OP here. I just listened to the new 10-minute version of "All Too Well" that Taylor performed on SNL the other night. I have some changed feelings because I never heard the song before or ever really listened to any of her lyrics when she was playing on the radio. But here's my big question now: Was she an unwilling participant in this charade of a relationship? I tried to resist being drawn into it, but it's actually a very nice song. It actually sounds like it was heartfelt when it was written. I am aware that she exploits her many (many) short-lived and ill-fated relationships with men. But maybe 11 or 12 years ago she thought she was getting into a real relationship with Jake. He takes her home to his house, introduces her to his sister, his mother and father, etc. Look, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here, but maybe she thought he was straight and he was using her. If that was the case, I would certainly use my experiences during said relationship to write songs for her next album. If that is the correct scenario, and he led her on, I have no problem with that. At least she didn't out him in any of those songs. Still, it's a very odd showbiz universe this all played out in. I have no idea if my theory is correct, but she does sound on the song like she was hurt very deeply. Does anyone have any information on what REALLY happened?

R83 Yeah, I forgot about that. Plus, before chased after him, she dated his cousin, who was still in high school at the time.

To clarify a sentence in my last post: "Look, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt here, but maybe she thought he was straight, and he was actually using her as a beard the whole time."

I think it's undortunate that her music is judged because of who she dated instead of on its own merits.

From You're So Vain to You Oughta Know to Fleetwood Mac's Dreams and Go Your Own Way, a hell of a lot of songs are written in the afternath of relationships but the songs exist beyond the interpersonal dramas and gossip.

Taylor Swift writes almost exclusively about romantic relationships. What should her source material be if not her own relationships?

[quote] am aware that she exploits her many (many) short-lived and ill-fated relationships with men.

I also take some exception with this. I think she has been linked to maybe a dozen or so guys from age 19 to 30. Is that a lot? It doesn't seem like "many many" to me. Some of those relationships were just a few months. At some point, she does seem to have given in to the public fixation on her dating life and put on a show, but I also think that's a pretty normal reaction for a rebellious 20-something,

Leonardo DiCaprio, lots of musicians, et al. cycle through romantic partners like they're disposable products, but for some reason Taylor Swift is really vilified for it. I think it's really weird. She has actually profited from that fixation bigtime and so I don't feel sorry for her, but I think it's strange groupthink for everyone to have agreed she is some sort of predator. She seems very normal, verging on boring, to me. She just draws creatively from intense emotions of making and breaking love connections.

Who cares, she's gotten some good dick along the way.

R99 You are over analyzing. Fake is the operative word you used in your thread. There's no there there.

R103 Me too.

R101, The only thing we really know is that she was 20 and not even old enough to drink yet. He was 29.

She alleged that he broke up with her via text because of "the age gap."

Fast forward a few years later and ...

His current girlfriend is 25, he's 40. He started "dating" her back in 2018 so she was around the same age.

I still think the guy is bisexual and he dates women that young for a reason. Assuming most of what Taylor Swift said in that song was true, no woman his own age would have put up with any of what happened.

R91 Gyllenhaal's contemporaries Matthew McConaughey, Jared Leto,Ledger all won Oscars. But not Jacob. Sad.

^ They don't like me. They really don't like me!

R106 Sweetie what part of this thread's title: FAKE relationship did you not get?

She did an NPR Tiny Desk and shockingly her audience seemed to be middle aged women. The ones who I would expect to complain about schlepping their 10 year old daughter to see TS were shrieking. Weird. The kids have moved on.

TS has freakishly long arms.

R110 I have a friend whose husband works at NPR and they both invite people to tiny desk concerts. My impression is that the audiences are usually internal, not the public.

"I'm gay and I would have fucked Taylor Swift at her peak."

If you feel that way, you're not 100 percent gay. I am a gay man and while I was friends with women all my life, I was never sexually attracted to one and could never get it up to have sex with one of them. THAT is what gay is.

The GIF at R9, where was that taken from? Is that a brightened version of the Brokeback Mountain tent scene?

The song's lyrics are maudlin. I don't know if that is Swift truly or if it's the product she sells successfully to middlebrow low culture women. It's obviously crack to women. As is Adele.

That makes a LOT of sense, R111, thanks. I was baffled. A colleague had discovered Tiny Desk and just happened to show me that as an example. The kids surely must have moved on, who buys her dreck now?

Her fake feuds and fake boyfriends schtick is so worn. Surely her career has peaked?

FRAUS, rose. Maybe a few pathetic older GEN. Z who have Peter Pan syndrome.

[quote] The kids surely must have moved on, who buys her dreck now?

A lot of people.

[quote] The original version of Red ranked highest at 21 on this week’s chart, followed by 2020’s Folklore at 24, 2020’s Evermore at 40, 2019’s Lover at 48, 2021’s Fearless (Taylor’s Version) at 51, 2010’s Speak Now at 54 and 2014’s 1989 at 77.

[quote] She also tied her own record of eight entries on the Billboard Top 200: 2017’s Reputation ranked at 126. The only other female artist to chart at least seven albums on the Billboard Top 100 was Whitney Houston, who did so in 2012, according to Billboard.

Also

[quote] Spotify reps say that Swift broke two records for the service on Friday, the day that “Red (Taylor’s Version)” came out. One is the record for the most-streamed album in a day by a female in Spotify history. “Red (Taylor’s Version)” accomplished that by picking up over 90.8 million streams on day one.

[quote] The other Spotify record broken by Swift Friday was the one for the most-streamed female in a single day in Spotify history. She did that with more than 122.9 million streams on Friday. That means that about about a quarter of the nearly almost 123 million streams Swift picked up Friday were for albums other than “Red (Taylor’s Version).”

Her brother is kinda cute.

She's a super cunt but very clever for money. She sold her hits for zillions, and now re-records them and they sell again and she has the rights. hahahahahahhahha clever cunt.

I would not play it if you gave it to me for free. I remember co-workers taking groups of 10 and 12 year old girls to a concert, but that was years ago.

Katy Perry had a similar audience, maybe even younger and when the kids moved on, her career kind of tanked.

Really curious who is behind the sales stats with the PR puff filtered out.

Parents I know who took shrieking groups of 5th graders were not converted to fans, they spoke of ear plugs and hopes to not repeat the experience. I have seen Swift perform on awards shows and thought she was quite limited, thus all her schticky feuds, fake boyfriends with a song each, etc. Like TS and his cereal boxes and exhortations to "rage" it is all to deflect from a minimal talent. That said they both have strong talents behind them pushing branding.

'Everyone knew Taylor and Jake G. were a big, fat bearding situation. '

Not this cunt again. You think everyone in Hollywood who's in a relationship with another celebrity is in a 'bearding contract'. Taylor Swift and all her lovers, all the 1d boys, Jason Sudeikis, Brad Pitt, George Clooney - the list goes on forever with you. Absolutely obsessed with PR relationships.

I think the Hiddleston bearding really damaged both their careers.

'At least she didn't out him in any of those songs. '

Op, don't you get it yet? Everyone else on the thread is ignoring your premise that Jake was a beard and just talking about Taylor and her REAL relationships, an interesting enough topic.

Stans of Styles and Swift (millions of people combined) cannot wait for new songs from 1989 to shed light on that relationship. OP probably thinks Styles has been married to Louis Tomlinson for the last ten years.

Taylor has been with the same guy for the past five years yet still has the rep of cycling quickly through men.

'Assuming most of what Taylor Swift said in that song was true, no woman his own age would have put up with any of what happened.' He dated Reese Witherspoon for three years and she's five years older than him. Also dated Jenny Lewis, five years older and Natalie Portman, the same age. The current gf and Taylor are the only younger ones.

'Katy Perry had a similar audience, maybe even younger and when the kids moved on, her career kind of tanked.'

Katy Perry got famous in 2008 by which time Taylor had already been successful for two years. By 2016 Katy had faded out while Swift went on to win another Grammy in 2021.

She's a social media / marketing department frankenproduct version of Joni Mitchell?

OP, All Too Well was most likely about Dianna Agron not taking their hidden relationship seriously (word was she was also hooking up with people like Naya Rivera on the side) and TS and Agron were on again, off again for awhile. Ultimately, if we are to believe Taylor’s other songs from the era, Dianna popped the question but Taylor said no and met Karlie Kloss right at the same time, who told her to move to NYC. So she did and Karlie was her “roommate” for awhile hidden in plain sight as part of the squad (or bevy of gay models).

Lezapalooza

Thats when she was sort of interesting - skinny power lezzie with a squad.

R123 The People magazine is my bible cunt.

R107 Matthew Matthew McConaughey is 52, Jake is 40. How are they contemporaries?

R122 Her and Katy Perry don't have similar audience at all.

R132 the squad shit was embarrassing.

R134: Matthew McC and Jake G double-teamed Lance Armstrong on camping trips, back in the days before he was blackballed (so to speak).

lance as the bottom?

I'm laughing my ass off at the frauen on this thread who think Jake or this dyke are str8.

Can't he just send her back the scarf? It's got to be in one of the drawers in his house, and until he sends it back we'll never hear the end of it.

^ Did Swifty write a song about it?

[quote] Taylor Swift isn’t the only one leaning into the Taylor’s Version era. While the singer is busy promoting the 30-track re-recorded version of her beloved Red album, the nation’s largest chain of radio stations, iHeartRadio, announced on Tuesday (Nov. 16) that fans listening to their 850 stations will only be able to hear the revamped titles on their network.

bc she's a mentally and emotionally stunted woman whose rabid cult of stans will stream a recording of her farting.

R60 is a fucking bi cunt identifying as "gay". FF the bi cunt. Fuck off from our gay website you bi scum.

[QUOTE] OP, All Too Well was most likely about Dianna Agron not taking their hidden relationship seriously (word was she was also hooking up with people like Naya Rivera on the side) and TS and Agron were on again, off again for awhile. Ultimately, if we are to believe Taylor’s other songs from the era, Dianna popped the question but Taylor said no and met Karlie Kloss right at the same time, who told her to move to NYC. So she did and Karlie was her “roommate” for awhile hidden in plain sight as part of the squad (or bevy of gay models).

Is this a joke? Are you one of those insane Kaylors who think Taylor and Karlie are secretly together and Karlie's marriage with Josh Kushner is fake? And their baby son fake too? Jesus, you should watch yourself. I'd hate to have a defective brain like yours, so susceptible to falling for internet conspiracy theories.

[quote]So no screeching, please.

Good luck with that "fictitious" on the DL.

She's got HERPES

R29 least accurate photoshop I’ve ever seen. Those tits! Swifty is actually flat as a board.

Bet she gets off on (tit) size humiliation kink.

[Quote] Swifty is actually flat as a board.

Hence the boob job.

R139 And I'm laughing my ass off at the delusional cupcakes like yourself.

I am not a general fan but I find this song interesting for the sole reason it so accurately describes a relationship with a narcissist.

R36 "SHE WAS ONLY 20 YOU SICKOS"

Young people really need to get over seeing 20 year old grown ass women as children. Sorry if Taylor's Disney prince fantasy didn't work out but trying to paint a 29 year old and a 20 year old dating as some horrendous crime makes me think the under 30s are more MARY than some DL eldergays. Ikea should release a line of fainting couches for millennials.

R106. Was legal adult Taylor Swift forced to date Jake Gyllenhall? If not, then who the fuck cares?

The conversations here are bizarre. She's not claiming she was sexually assaulted. She got burned by a guy who she felt was deceptive and she wrote a song about it. I feel like most songwriters have written similar songs about having dated an asshole. Why are people acting like she is claiming she was raped by Jake Gyllenhaal? She doesn't even talk about him to my knowledge. She just wrote a damned song back in 2008 that reflected her feelings at the time.

People blame Swift for making drama about her relationships but it's the public who obsess over them.

R154 I agree that it's her fans who are the biggest retards here but Swift is clever and she knows her that her base is histrionic low brow fraus who blow everything out of proportion. Someone in her position has the responsibility to not coyly play the victim and blur the line between bad boyfriend and rapist. I think she knows what she's doing and is getting exactly the response she wants.

A lot of her song lyrics are better than All Too Well. I don't get why critics call it her best.

^^

[quote] He was 29, she was 20.

Which is perfectly legal in all fifty states, Mary.

R145 No, I don’t think Kloss and Swift are still together. That ship sailed years ago. However, if you think it’s delusional to believe that Swift dates women on the downlow, you might want to take a look at her beards over the years (Hiddleston, Joe Jonas, Taylor Lautner, Harry Styles) and her pap shots with them and then compare them to pics of her with women. There is a stark difference and a pattern. She definitely plays the PR game but it’s there for anyone to see.

I don't think Joe or Harry were beards. But i do think it was pr.

R159 Except neither Joe Jonas nor Harry Styles are gay. Same with that dj guy and that lame acoustic guitar player guy. And yes, it's delusional to think this vanilla plain bore is fucking chicks on the downlow. She would be a lot cooler if she had at least one gay bone in her body.

My younger cousin, a 25y.o hipster foodie journalist & blogger plus hobbyist p*ssyhound, is weirdly an über fan of Miss Swift. He goes to her shows whenever she’s playing within 200 likes, talks about her on socials, is on a fan Discord. He probably has posters up in his apartment.

Is he closeted, or just looking for sexual access to her fanbase? If it helps to work it out, he also unabashedly enjoys Doja Cat songs, Netflix teen dramas & romcoms (his latest favourites are STARSTRUCK and the new GOSSIP GIRL), and watching and playing rugby. He has called Nigella Lawson ‘a relatable Queen’ several times before. From what he’s mentioned in the past, he also seems to go wild for an*l with the countless girls (usually younger than him) he bangs.

This one is a radar-scrambler, fellas!

^ "Is he closeted, or just looking for sexual access to her fanbase?"

Nah, he's just plain ordinary weird

R161 One word: Kissgate. Look it up.

'Red' is the first Taylor Swift album I ever bought. Inwas curious why she was so controversial after the Kanye thing and the album was said to be more pop than country. I liked it.

I never heard about the Jake G thing until this rerelease, or else I ignored it because I really don't care about musicians' personal lives, just their music.

'All Too Well' isn't my favorite song on the album, but these lines have always stood out to me:

[quote] Photo album on the counter / Your cheeks were turning red / You used to be a little kid with glasses in a twin-sized bed

That's the sort of specific detail that Taylor Swift writes and people like Adele don't (Adele's version of the same would be something like, "I saw your picture on the counter / That thing about you / Oh, I'll never forget it").

It's also specific enough, it turns out, to verify that yeah, she probably was singing about Jake G.

Does it matter? Let it be

R164 You mean whispering into to an ear of your friend at the loud concert? I won't look it up, thanks

as an outside observer with no personal interest in the matter

[quote] But you keep my old scarf from that very first week / Cause it reminds you of innocence / And it smells like me / You can't get rid of it

A little highlight of my week was watching Joy Behar read those lyrics on The View and say, "Those are bad lyrics. Terrible. Don't say it smells like you. 'Scent' is more poetic. That's not a good lyric."

'One word: Kissgate. Look it up.'

Taylor and Karlie laughing and hugging at a 1975 concert WITH KARLIE'S BOYFRIEND JOSH KUSHNER right next to them. Got anything else, dumbass Kaylor?

She'd better not represent Harry Styles as a rapist when she releases the new 1989 or his fandom will literally attack her in the streets.

She dated that crossdresser?

170 I don’t know what clip you watched but the original shows Taylor kissing Karlie and briefly groping her boob as they dance to the music. Josh isn’t in the video at all. It’s largely been scrubbed from tue Internet but a few sites still have the original, Dumbass in denial.

[quote] Try listening to the song as just a song and not as an adolescent attack

LOL yeah no I’m not buying her damn album

Taylor sing to us about KENNEDY HARD TEEN COCK. Sheesh!

R175 mhmm she's not really getting called out for that.

Taylor Swift seems so obviously gay to me, I can”t believe her fans don’t see it. She’s close to 30 now and will have to marry someone soon. She can”t keep the phony short term. relationships,going forever.

Taylor Swift is a sad sign of the times. She is, perhaps, the closest thing this generation has to a musical superstar, yet it is all built on VICTIMHOOD. All this infantile brained woman does is whine about how she is always taken advantage of and done wrong. She never is accountable for anything bad that happens in her life. Total narcissist. Nothing but little girls must be at her concerts. Fucking weird for a 32 year old woman.

R173 You don't know the difference between talking to someone into their ear at the loud concert and making out? If you really think that Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss would make out in the public being surrounded by thousands of people...then there's no hope for you.

R177 Phony short term relationship? She's been with her boyfriend for about 5 years now. And she's not close to 30, she's 31.

Adele is doing the same thing to her ex husband

R178 That's not true at all. Her songs are mostly romantic, about hooking up, being in love or breaking up, but they're not all about being wronged as much as you might want them to be about that.

I've bought all her albums since Red because she is a talented wordsmith and good at catchy melodies in a good variety of styles. My only complaint about her music is that the subject matter is almost exclusively limited to romances and she still writes songs about teenaged love affairs, which I think is weird at her age. But her music is not "all built on victimhood" no matter how much you insist they are and no matter how much media coverage of her emphasizes that. I don't care about musicians' personal lives at all, just the music, and her music won me over for what it is—well-written pop of limited scope.

Publicity and it worked because look she is still being discussed. Smart woman.

She’s borderline.

Overall, I find her rereleased album a lot better than Adele's new album, which has gotten stellar reviews. I don't necessarily love comparing musicians all the time because everyone stands on their own merits and taste is subjective, but Adele's lyrics are so trite.

Still wish a new artist would come around with more diverse interests and insights like Tori Amos and Kate Bush, who write poetically about more than just smoochy smoochy and fighting with lovers. If anyone knows of anybody more recent worth listening to, let me know.

Better question: Why do the desperate queens of DL keep pushing the Jake G is gay bullshit? SO pathetic.

R186 I enjoyed the fantasy when he was younger and adorable, but the longhaired bodybuilder phase has made him look a bit grizzled and Harlequin romance novelesque for me. The ladies can have him.

R186 because bisexuality doesn't exist on DL.

She was the victim of a drive-by bearding.

I doubt Jake is actually 40, he’s definitely shaved off a few years. When he was supposedly a teen in Donnie Darko he looked early/mid 20s, and he looks mid 40s now.

Ok, so I watched the short films. I consider Taylor Swift and not Kim Kardashian to be the celebrity symbolic of everything wrong with Western Civilisation, but All Too Well was My favourite song in her catalogue.

Man, is she an immature asshole if the Sadie a sink character has any semblance to reality. A 20 year old you acted 14. Jesus.

R179 You haven't seen the video then. Clearly a boob grab here (this is a snippet of the whole video). Taylor was drunk and it was dark during the 1975 concert. People slip up.

R190, his family seems to have this thing where they all age quite quickly in the face. I still remember someone referring to Maggie G as Maggie "Old Face" Gyllenhaal when Secretary came out.

R192 And how do you know if she was drunk?

Better question: Why do the desperate Fraus of DL keep pushing the Jake G is not gay bullshit? SO pathetic.

Fixed for R186

R190 Jewface ages one.

R187 With that wig he looked like a hirsute Cher.

[QUOTE] Taylor Swift seems so obviously gay to me, I can”t believe her fans don’t see it. She’s close to 30 now and will have to marry someone soon. She can”t keep the phony short term. relationships,going forever.

She's been with Joe Alwyn for five years, you cretin. She's straight but courts the pink pound be pretending to be an ally.

The fact that things are called "Taylor's Version" make it feel a bit desperate to me. Why wasn't the original her version, if she is/was so in control of her art?

R199 To easily distinguish the versions she owns/profits from from the older versions. She works with producers and she did this to gain ownership over her masters, and in order to profit from that, she has to market the new versions in such a way that people can choose one or the other. She's staking her claim to her music with her name.

R199 You're thinking in terms of creative control—the artistry part of music.

This move was a business decision—the money and ownership part of music, which is to say almost the entire music industry.

Tori Amos has always said she was a musician from early childhood and studied music formally at a conservatory all her life, and so she thought she was ready to be a professional musician—then she learned that the music industry has nothing to do with composing and performing music; it's strictly a cutthroat business.

Straight women don't boob grab their female friends and try to kiss them. Straight women don't write lyrics like "I don't want you like a best friend" about men ("Dress") and constantly sing about having to be secretive in relationships and hide when her PR showmances were simultaneously out in the open for the world to see, which made no sense taken at face value. Straight women don't need a roommate when they can afford to live anywhere (this was years ago in NY). Taken alone, each of things things is somewhat suspect at best, or just not a big deal, but several pieces together create a pattern. Combine that with Taylor's ogling of Karlie during the Victoria's Secret show (linked below) and other bits and pieces of information and you have a lady loving lady who makes millions off of fooling people into thinking she's crazy about men. She even had a type: blond (and not that far off from herself lookswise)--Emily Poe, Dianna Agron, and Karlie Kloss. Her type may have changed, but she upped her secrecy after kissgate and the Reputation era, so no one knows who she is actually dating (Alwyn is a great cover when she has no interest in living in London fulltime and just does awkward pap walks with him once in a blue moon). A lot of celebrities who are actually gay (female and male) still enter lavender marriages or just have beards--Taylor isn't the only one (Shawn Mendes and Camilla Cabello, etc.--a lot of those fake relationships have been discussed in the DL over the years).

[Quote] Straight women don't boob grab their female friends

Yes they do.

[Quote] Straight women don't write lyrics like "I don't want you like a best friend" about men ("Dress") and constantly sing about having to be secretive in relationships and hide when her PR showmances were simultaneously out in the open for the world to see, which made no sense taken at face value.

Are you serious? 😆

Whatever she does it works. She is beloved by millennials and Gen Z. Of course, most Swifties I've met are the most bland, uninteresting and shallow people ever and all seem emotionally stuck at 15. I've never believed any of her showmances but fangirls believe everyone of them. I told this one person, if Taylor Swift was a gay man, she would not be whining about getting all that hot dick and she should be grateful those guys even look at her.

For someone who DLers say is bland and uninteresting and juvenile and untalented, there sure is a lot of conversation about her personal relationships.

Because her personal relationships are all she fucking writes about and bitches endlessly about in the press.

R205 that tends to happen if you make a career out of bearding like Taylor has.

Is R202 a joke? Why has Datalounge been invaded by dumbass Kaylor shipping fraus?

R202 Gay women don't date men for years, then marry them and have children together, like Kloss did.