"Hogging" Is A Horrifying Sex Competition That Some Fraternities Engage In, And People Are Finally Talking About It

Hogging Definition...

These guys' comments are such bullshit.

You just know they're laughing about it.

There was an episode of Cold Case about this. All the frat bros were wearing pig masks.

No one has seen the movie Dogfight?

Ummm....

That's real breaking news. Over twenty five years ago they did an episode of Married With Children with Bud as the joke date.

It's gross, but is it really "violence?" Why is everything violence these days? The word has lost all meaning.

This is appalling and do they ever do this to men?

Back in my day, boofing and the Devil's Triangle were all the rage.

r7 As defined, it's not violence. As long as it's consenting adults, it's cruel. Not rape, not violent, just horribly awful.

r8 it would never get that far w/gay men.

[quote] it would never get that far w/gay men

Gay men are far too cunty to even consider having sex with a fattie.

Straight guys don't give a shit who they're fucking, when they're horny enough.

Gay guys wouldn't dare. They're way too picky.

I ask because they refer to it as violence in the article, R10. Of course, it's Buzzfeed, so that type of hyperbole is to be expected.

They're frat guys, don't they usually just skip this step and go directly to rape?

I can't believe so many people haven't heard of this. I've been out of college thirty years, and "goin' hoggin'" was always joked about.

R7 Force is used, it causes harm. Too many people are inured to criminality, particularly against people society devalues.

My fraternity did this in the 90s. It was a victimless crime.

If they aren't raping the fatties then I don't see what the problem is.

She’s probably getting some Dick that would otherwise be out of her league

Chrissy Metz upon hearing about this ...

And frankly anyone who goes to a frat house should realize it won't end well for them.

R11 Buy some panties and a cheap wig, the tranny chasers are not picky at all. You simply put the wig on and announce you are a woman and you are one just like that.

So fat girls get a once-in-a-lifetime chance to have sex with a hot fraternity guy -- how is this "cruel", let alone "horrifying"?

[quote] My fraternity did this in the 90s. It was a victimless crime.

Rofl.

I first heard about it when I was watching a Guys Gone Wild video back in the 1990's......the drunk frat guy was in tears because he had fucked a fattie.

This is public service and should be included in extra curricular activities.

Straight, college aged guys will fuck a fat girl but they always put her down when they're talking with "the guys". And I'm talking terrible stuff that would get grayed out here on DL.

[quote] the drunk frat guy was in tears because he had fucked a fattie

Rofl. Oh, the humanity!

Let the frat boys fuck the fatties. It seems like both parties get something out of it. Unless OP wants to fuck all the fatties for himself.

I'm ready, boys!

One definition of violence is "strength of emotion or an unpleasant or destructive natural force." It doesn't necessarily mean physical violence. I'm kind of surprised that some people don't realize this. Then again....

The first time I had sex was at the ZBT house where I went to college. It was fabulous. I wasn't a fattie (5'7", 142) or a girl. I just wanted to meet some nice Jewish boys.

You know some of those frat boys were legitimately hot for the fatties and this was their socially acceptable means of fucking them without feeling humiliated. They just shift the humiliation to the fat vessel of desire.

From 1989.

If girls has monies, then why make problem? Is these boys hef small mushroom penes?

I don't understand the problem, fat girls like to have fun too. This might be their one chance.

Straight men are the absolute worst

Has Jon Hamm commented yet?

[quote]This might be their one chance.

Oh please. There isn't a woman on the planet who can't get laid whenever she wants. Doesn't matter how fat she is. Don't trying to graft gay rules on to straight people. It doesn't work that way. Pussy is pussy.

A variation on this was a story line on the show WKRP in Cincinnati. The wife of the owner admitted that she first went out with him because her sorority sisters were having a dogfight competition and he was the homliest boy on campus, but she fell for him anyway.

Andrew Dice Clay said many years ago in his act (when he had a career) that "every man likes to go hoggin' once in a while".

The joke is on these frat guys, because the woman will sit on him and crush him to death.

Guys do this in the army as well.

This is cruel but not newsworthy. It is forum worthy though

I went to Cornell. Frat boys do not hog girls at Cornell and gang bust into a room where a brother is hogging and laugh and snort.

Nobody is that stupid.

They would be instantly thrown out of college.

This is a LOT OF BULLSHIT.

[quote] Guys do this in the army as well.

With each other?

The women should expose these tiny-dicked douchebags.

This is just a variation on the “dogfight”. God, people suck.

We did this at my fraternity, but we had a twist. We had “ugly tie” parties. The guy who brought the ugliest girl to the party won. We all wore a tie. Didn’t have to fuck the girl to have a little fun… good times.

Wouldn't the women see this coming from a mile away?

Especially if these immature guys are laughing and giggling the whole time their friend is hitting on the fat girl.

Tell me women are smarter than to fall for this.

This is dogfight redux. Consenting adults, this is nothing new, .. It’s not like a donkey punch..this is horrifying. Here is the definition for those unaware: Donkey punching involves the male punching the sexual partner in the back of the head during anal or vaginal sex prior to orgasm, to provoke a shock causing the vaginal or anal muscles to contract around the male's penis.

I doubt the fat girls getting fucked are doing much complaining. I found out about this practice in college. I was friends with a larger sorority gal, she fucking loved when frats went hogging. She wanted to be a slut, but the rest of the year she was stuck with John Belushi type frat bros, hogging was her only chance to get the primo dick.

Worked out for her, one of those guys that hogged her ended up marrying her. She was a great gal, there was just rather a lot of her.

[quote] Didn’t have to fuck the girl to have a little fun… good times.

Lucky for you.

Seeing as how you're gay.

It's called "Whaling" in Newfoundland, as anyone who has partied on George Street would know.

Cool story, R51.

I guess she got the last laugh.

Is this her dad?

What's the big deal? Fat girls get boinked by hot guys and the hot guys get a prize.

And it may awaken latent fat sex desire in the hot guys, and they return more and more to blink the fat girls.

Well, R49, the guys I knew went out of their way to have sex with overweight gals always either picked them up when they were sloppy, fall down drunk for the one nighters or chose the girls who had such low self-esteem that a few compliments from any guy got them into bed.

It's not like these guys respected women in general anyway but they went out of their way to degrade the overweight ones they had sex with.

This Megan person sounds like a sexless prude who wants to turn other fat women into sexless prudes too.

Yes ugly (or FAT) Ivy League girls are so stupid and they get invited by a frat party by hot frat boys and they go and they don't notice all the other girls are ugly because they are SO STUPID being Ivy League girls, so then they have no self esteem, these Ivy League girls, and the hot frat boys turns on the charm so they all run up stairs and ride that hot frat dick.

She doesn't look like a sexless prude, R59.

"Megs 4 FUN."

Sounds kind of slutty, if you ask me.

R54 I will add that she was one of those larger gals that is fat but still pretty. Like you would think, "if you'd lose some weight, you would be a stunner." Also, the guy she ended up marrying was just a sweet Southern bubba, I mean he put the good in good ole boy, he and I had just a great friendship moment I can't even talk about. And he looked like a blond version of Luke Bryan.

R60 must have never attended college. Sororities don't let in fatties. The frat doooshes go scam on naive townies.

R63 They do. Most every one has at least one. The girls want at least one sister they can stand next too, when they are feeling bloated. It especially helps if they are a legacy, like my friend in R51, and/or smart to help the house GPA. Girls can be and often are much worse to one another than these frat guys are to them.

R63, they do currently let fatties in sororities. I saw so many on that bama rush tik tok thing.

More of an urban myth really.

oink oink

This is another one of those DL cases where a bunch of 50 year olds. who haven't been in college for 30 years. are using dated experiences to try and bring context to a modern topic. Big girls get laid. There are big girls in sororities, even the A sororities. Big girls can get hot boyfriends.

[quote] I wasn't a fattie (5'7", 142) or a girl.

But you are now?

I just came to say what R3 already said.....Case Case covered that shit years ago!

*Cold Case

The outrage of course rests on the previously patriarchal but now happily adopted feminist logic that sex is always a loss for a woman.

R63, Originally everyone in a Sorority was White, rich or at least upper middle class, and met certain other criterion. Yes some Houses demanded the tax return of a prospect's parents and/or a hefty pledging fee. Wealth and parental status would compensate for looks in some Houses.

Yet there was always at least one Sorority that let less attractive and even fat girls pledge. They were referred to as "Dogs" by the other Houses.

Sorority's justified their extremely racist, anti-Semitic, and "lookist" stance by claiming fraternities wouldn't want to have parties or exchanges, let alone date anyone in a House with less than beautiful girls.

Yet there was always a lesser status fraternity, often composed of ROTC members, that weren't as picky.

What is the big deal?

It's just a little harmless fun!

I’m sure those ugly guys sorority girls date as a joke WISH they could get laid as part of the deal. I’m sure most of these women don’t mind unless it’s one of the ugly frat brothers.

Straight woman here . Horrifying. Film on Netflix or Amazon entitled PiG I think.

So sad . Extremely overweight girl - self hating, depressed, stereotyped as she has « gay » friends .

She meets some normal looking guy at a concert . They spend a « wonderful” night or two in a cheap motel . He is saying “ all the right things” — love bombing and she falls for it.

The following day he. can’t leave fast enough. Maybe she actually believed his lies ? Who knows - end of movie is horrific — semi recent movie

The fat shaming …, all of it described in these threads //- I know firsthand how CRUELLY my adult gay son was treated in high school -/ hard to wrap my head around the fact that guys on this board are somehow « in on the joke” cause it demeans fat women

These types of socially acceptable encounters from the School Of Brent Cavanaugh ( the train , rape in many forms DEGRADE EVERYBODY -/ regardless of gender or sexual orientation

It’s just fucking weird how homosocial straight guys are. They care more about showing off to their bros than they do about scoring actual pussy.

[quote] Originally everyone in a Sorority was White, rich or at least upper middle class, and met certain other criterion.

Not always some were Black and rich or at least middle class.

Don’t queers do the same game with pity fucks? Like a contest.

There are a lot of bad people out in the world, but also lots of great ones, be discerning. We have all been burned and learned from it right? In this scenario be careful, take your time with people watch alcohol consumption around strangers and people you don’t know well,...basic street smarts common sense. If something seems too good to be true it usually is! if someone comes on too strong take a second look at them. It’s part of life, Sucks but true. Dont handover your trust, friendship God forbid virginity to just anyone! I’m still waiting for the right one… Until then it’s only oral!

Hogging is the reason why I dilute my man-made cooter every night! Them frat boys like a he/she with some meat on them/they/Demi bones!!!’

Men will fuck anything if they think no one will know. I once lived in a trailer park (dont judge,it was a bleak period in my life) that was across the street from some shitty dive bar. My next door neighbor was a 5'5 350 pounder named Melissa .Our trailers werent very far apart at all,so Id hear her coming home late at night from that bar and she always had a cute redneck on her arm. Every night of the week ! Many the time I saw the dudes sneaking out early in the morning looking ashamed and hungover. She never had repeats either,so Im thinking her pussy wasnt good. In the 3 months I lived there she rarely missed a night at that bar. I was impressed and a little jealous.

There was an episode of Mr. Belvedere about this. Kevin took a "date", Wendy, to a party, the date spoke to another woman, and realized why Kevin had asked her out. She confronted Kevin about it, and he apologized. The date became Kevin's friend...and a recurring character on the show.

I went to college in the early 80’s. There were alot of closeted gay frat boys back then. If you were discreet (also closeted) and had the right wardrobe, you could hang out in the house. Seems like they were always stripping down for some reason, like boxer shorts happy hours. Aside from having a library of old tests you could use to cheat in class, several houses kept a running list of the which girls put out in which house. Greek life was such a weird universe, intimate and isolating at the same time. I never heard of hogging though.

Isn’t this basically a dog fight with weight thrown in to it?

R85 Yes.

Somebody tell Defacto to throw on a wig and find herself one of these parties.

What is the psychology behind gang bangs/running a train on a girl? I'm on Fetlife and I saw a profile of a guy who arranges straight gang bangs, and he mentioned that part of the fun of one is that the guys can 'talk smack' about the girl as they fuck her. His profile had pics, and the girls weren't fat or ugly.

Do the gay frats have a "paperbag an eldergay" night?

R88 they love it because they want to fuck cooters and asses that are heated up and filled with their brothers hot loads? They want to fuck that delicious brother cum, splattering it all over. They want to double fuck and feel their big hard throbbing frat boy cocks rubbing against each other in the holes.

A lot of straight men hate women, R88. If you've ever been around them and heard the things they say about women, even their wives, you'd know how much they hate them.

This is just some TikTok person trying to go viral with some new outrage.

I wish I was being hogged right now.

When I saw the photo I thought "Why isn't it called Downsing?"

Ist die american version of Horse and Mare party, ja?

I find it hard to believe that’s the fattest ugliest chick they could find. Obviously they haven’t been to a Walmart lately.

Exactly r4. Dogfights actually happened in the 60's. Nothing new with hogging. How boring these kids are.

R96 it takes older people to get that fat tho! True young fatties are rare. It's like bodybuilding, it takes time to build up.

An article from 2004:

I've gone hog wild!

I was in a fraternity and we didn’t do this. Nor was it done in the athletic teams I was a part of.

So this isn’t a “frat” thing. It’s more like a “douchebag male college student” thing, and not all male college students are douchebags.

Do they ever do it to fat guys?

R88 Domination, Humiliation, Camaraderie. Talking smack about the girl, like another poster replied, is also very real. Gangbang and Blowbang porn often have guys to be a lot more crude and vocal compared to one on one or threesomes.

[quote] One definition of violence is "strength of emotion or an unpleasant or destructive natural force." It doesn't necessarily mean physical violence.

Does this explain the Lens Dunham wedding?

I’m a fat whore (female) and I bet I get more cock than most of you. All I have to do is spread my legs!

That would be my nightmare: Hooking up with a hot frat guy only to be harassed by his frat bros who wear a Donald Trump masks. Tricked into fucking a Deplorable ... again!

This is hilarious. Go hoggers!! Fat people need to be shamed.

We used to call this "last call"...Pickings are slim at 230 am

Quite simple really.

If a woman does not want to be used for hogging she can either say no or eat less.

R110 is right, if this happens it’s up to parties involved and no one else business. It demeans women to treat them as victims.

Don’t they all jerk off on cookies and the guy who cums last has to eat it?

I’d rather do that than have sex with a fat girl if I was in a fraternity!

R112 That can happen as well. It is really just an excuse for a circle jerk and one guy always comes late on purpose.

R102 probably wouldn't be done with boys, because male incels are prone to pick up an assault rifle when humiliated and obliterate the campus which would probably ruin the fun.

I love frat boys and "hogging"

Has anyone asked PigBoy Ruben for comments?

Yeah, I'm getting that vibe as well, r68. This was a think when I was in college 30 years ago but even I know that larger girls aren't sad and lonely virgins these days like so many on here are saying.

What's really weird is that we get tons of threads on here about how terrible it is that all the hot straight cock is married to fat cunt frauen hogs and it's not fair, but those same guys are saying fat cunt frauen hogs can't get laid. Pick one bitchy fake story or the other, boys, you can't have it both ways.

"Danielle, OMG, you are NOT going to believe what happened to me last night. I was at a bar with Trish, and you know how she normally gets all the attention? Well, not last night! Snotty skinny bitch! LOL! There were a bunch of super-cute frat boys in the bar and none of them could take their eyes off me! Yeah, fuck Trish. Anyway, I went back to the frat house with the CUTEST one. I could tell he was really into me. I think he's the one. I need to get off the phone, so I am poised when he calls to ask to see me today. Bye, Danielle. Now, don't be jealous. Leave that to Trish! LOL!"

A long time ago there was a dogfight story in one of the magazines - I think Saturday Evening Post - I told you it was a long time ago.

The guy that asked the ugliest loser girl out on a date won a pool of money. He took out the girl he was assigned and had a good time and ended up really liking her. He felt very bad and confessed at the evening why he asked her out.

And she replied - "Yea, I know. I won the pool in my house."

R91 is right. Working in a male-dominated job in my 20s with a bunch of angry, unsatisfied 40-something married dudes made me afraid to ever get married. They look normal but the things they say about their wives are fucking disturbing. And I similarly hate listening to angry, unsatisfied 40-something fraus talking about their husbands as if they were brainless morons who can’t do anything right. I’m too soft-hearted for an Everyone Loves Raymond marriage.

If you're really a frau, then you don't know what they're really saying about women, R120. Even if you're "one of the guys". Believe me, if you think they say terrible shit in front of you, you haven't heard half of what they say when there are no fraus around.

"Horrifying"? Please. Fatties want acceptance. They've got it. They too can be just another notch on some douchebag's bedpost. Nothing new here.

[quote]R97 Exactly [R4]. Dogfights actually happened in the 60's.

“Dogfight” (1989) is a beautiful movie with two incandescent stars… tho River Phoenix’s early death gives it an additional poignant glow you can’t separate from it.

IN THE COMPANY OF MEN is a variation on this.

Neil LaBute must be a very strange person. Though my friend acted in something for him and said he was a soft spoken gentleman.

I don’t know if that makes him even creepier, or what.

R44 = Andy Bernard

You'd think the fatties would be grateful for the fuck from a hot frat guy.

This isn't new. Though it was the catchy name now.

The left-wing Moral Majority strikes again. Fuck off.

I swear R73 went to college in the 1930s.

Or (more likely, given DL) saw a movie set at a college in the 1930s.

Back in modern times, these sorts of things are always rumored but far from common. As in "five years ago, Sigma Chi at Syracuse had a dogfight/whaling/hogging competition but they got busted and none of the sororities wanted anything to do with them" or "My friend's brother's cousin goes to Mizzou and there was a frat there that...."

In 2021, frats and sororities are on their way out again due to both Wokeness and administrations that crack down hard on drinking because of how bad it makes the school look when something happens.

And yes R4, that movie was the first thing I thought of too when I saw the OP

Seriously, OP? You decided not to do a Fat Whores Rejoice! title? Fuck you.

Anyhow, not limited to frats. John Cena did an interview years ago where he admitted to fucking a fattie because other wrestlers dared him to.

Oh no! Ugly fat girls are being forced to voluntarily have sex with attractive men!

Women need to save their virtue for the marriage bed.

And FWIW, gay guys do this too.

When I was in my 20s, it was an article of faith among my friends that fat guys gave amazing head because they had an oral fixation and that we could get a fat guy to come over and blow two or three of us, no recip.

It was sleazy in retrospect, but they knew what they were getting into and had no delusions it was anything other than a chance to get with guys who would normally be out of their league.

This happened to a friend of mine who was ... bigger.

She ended up hooking up with a guy we were friendly with because he was in a frat and he figured it would be easy since he already knew her.

When she tried to act lovey dovey towards him after visiting him at his house HE FREAKED and said horrible things about her.

She called me in pieces because she didn't know what happened. Afterall they were "friends."

I tried to calm her down, talked to him, he explained it to me and I lied and said that he was in a "bad place right now" and she should give him some space.

That didn't work because she was "worried" about him.

Long story short: destroyed their friendship, destroyed my friendship with him, she figured out I lied but also said if I had of told her the truth it would have probably offed herself, and no, she never got over it.

This infuriates gay men because fat women > gay men. 🤭

Gay men lord straight guys.

*love

You'd hope a heavy college woman would catch on but it could be exciting and wanted enough she forgets past treatment by men. Anyways, my problem with this is it's discussed as if the girl doesn't have choices or willpower or her own interests.

R124 I thought of that film the moment I read this thread.

This is like when really fat women are overly concerned with being raped. It's wishful thinking in the guise of concern.

If you're 300 lbs+ and a good looking guy in a popular frat is all over you... you're hoping he's into big gals? You want a one nighter too?

The navy guys had a similar game. Called Pigs For Bucks. Whoever picked either the fattest or ugliest girl in a bar and bought her a drink, he’d get a dollar. Really cruel.

[quote]Anyways, my problem with this is it's discussed as if the girl doesn't have choices or willpower or her own interests.

It's a moral issue because the woman is sleeping with the man under false pretenses.

She has choices and willpower but she doesn't have all the facts/the context about the situation.

There's a difference between:

"I want to sleep with you because I like you," "I want to fuck you to get off," and "I want to fuck you so I can tell all my friends I fucked a fat chick because it's a game we're playing. Then we can all laugh at you behind your back."

You might sleep with someone for the first two reasons but not the third.

Data Lounge is hogging for gays.

[quote] She has choices and willpower but she doesn't have all the facts/the context about the situation.

No, you're right. It's mean. I was hopeful someone would be able to suss it out but that's not at all clear.

Hogging sounds so Deliverance.

[quote] tho River Phoenix’s early death gives it an additional poignant glow you can’t separate from it.

Mary!

R38 This is what incels claim but I don't think it's true. Jockish straight guys don't want to fuck fat chicks unless they have a niche fetish. Fat girls don't want to fuck the guys who will fuck them, which is guys who are on the Michael Cera - Jonah Hill spectrum.

I don't know too many women who are desperate enough for sex that they would subject themselves to be a subject of ridicule and being barged in on, and laughed at, just at the chance of having sex with some good looking asshole. They can get it elsewhere, maybe with not as good looking of a guy but that doesn't always matter. Maybe they have self esteem issues and are thinking the guy likes them, but if approached by a group, wouldn't it be obvious? Furthermore, a one night stand isn't worth that kind of shit... women aren't that into it just for the sex. They want a shot at dating the guy, not just the sex. (female here)

Da fuck R148

It's not like they have any idea what is going on.

They actually think the guy is into them and they can't believe their luck.

For many this may be the first guy who has paid attention to them all year.

His friends are in on it too so they're all friendly to her... and then BOOM!

He wasn't into her at all, it was just some game and she was the butt of a joke.

That would be crushing to a pretty girl with high self-esteem, so imagine what it's like for the ones with lower self-esteem.

I wish trashy Vh1 reality shows were still a thing because a dating show between fat feminists and skinny incels would be hilarious.

She has some self-esteem at the beginning. She didn't buy into the idea the hot frat guy was inherently beyond her.

How many times has this actually happened? It seems like it happened once and then someone wrote an article that made it seem like it was a widespread phenomenon because they knew it would get a lot of clicks from the perpetually angry internet tumblr nerds.

It's been going on for more years than you've been alive r152.

They're 18 or 19 and very unsophisticated/inexperienced

And R151, I suspect that the guys who are most successful are the ones who are not the hottest guy in the house, the ones who are a little nerdy and she's thinking he may be in her league.

I said that above R152 - I've only heard of it via rumor about something that happened at another school or five or ten years in the past.

How many of the victims will actually come forward in these cases?

[quote] They're 18 or 19 and very unsophisticated/inexperienced

Yes. I'm just trying to picture the set up. You're new to college and new to everything. You're away from your high school life and hopeful.

[quote]How many times has this actually happened?

There are people in this thread, and I'm assuming we don't all know each other, that have done it or have friends who did.

It happens a lot. A lot.

This is fucking gross, when I was a teenager I heard about something called 'Fat Girl Rodeo' which was when you start dancing with a fat chick in a club and then move behind her and grab hold and see how long you can hold on for before she throws you off - same disgusting concept but this seems like it's taking that to the next level.

Straight boys are fucking gross.

Alcohol + Drugs = Disturbing Behavior

Trust me, r160, they're disturbing underneath the drugs and alcohol too.

Start watching at around the 9:00 mark.

Does anyone recall a bar for fat guys in Los Angeles called Griff’s? A dancer friend who is now deceased, used to go there with his friends just to make fun of them. I thought that he was being cruel and childish. But he was in his thirties when he did it. He’d tell me that I was childish all the time, but he did this to people…

As a fat girl the way people treat me is terrible.

My gay fat brother's experience is so much better.

[quote]As a fat girl the way people treat me is terrible.

The point of this thread is that “fat girls” get straight guys, gay guys don’t…well…can’t. This infuriates them.

I think it’s hot when frat boys do anything “sexually” together, so I’m ok with this. Comparing each other’s conquests and such is a turn on. And honestly, the big girl should relax and enjoy it; use him just as much as he’s using you. I would!

I don't see the problem. Holes are stuffed, loads are blown. Everyone wins.

This reminds me of Amy Schumer’s movie “Trainwreck.” She’s a whale, yet goes out to bars and gets these hot guys drunk and takes them home. I say good for her! Let the cat girl take the power back and use these hot little studs before they turn into alcoholic golfers with huge bellies and are impotent.

Girls of all sizes:

Save your precious gift for the marriage bed.

Make your husband your king.

We called them Pig Parties.

[quote]Oh no! Ugly fat girls are being forced to voluntarily have sex with attractive men!

You seem to have missed a few little details of the story, you blithering idiot.

Straight male insecurity requires degrading women in front of their buddies to show how alpha they are. Best to dispense with bravado and get to mutual cocksucking!

Men are animals.

" It's a moral issue because the woman is sleeping with the man under false pretenses.

She has choices and willpower but she doesn't have all the facts/the context about the situation. "

People rarely have "all the facts" when hooking up. Jesus. it's physical attraction and wanting to fuck. People lie all the time about themselves and no one cares. It's a hook up. it's not like they're getting married. Though people lie and hide facts in the marriage context too.,

Dick is dick. The intention of the dick shouldn't matter if you're just hooking up. "I'm genuinely afraid". Bitch please, you got dick way above your pay level. If she was smart about revenge she's turn it on him and email all of his friends about what a bad lay he is. But she has the play the victim. Very vogue right now to be oppressed.

Maybe the fat girls are running off to brag to their friends about the hot, frat bro dick they scored but normally wouldn't have a chance at??

[quote]People rarely have "all the facts" when hooking up. Jesus. it's physical attraction and wanting to fuck. People lie all the time about themselves and no one cares. It's a hook up. it's not like they're getting married.

So, in your mind, it's okay if the lie includes not letting the woman know that, in the middle of the sex act, a bunch of guys are going to bust into the room screming "oink, onk!!" If that's what you're saying, you need to be locked up in a facility for the criminally insane as soon as possible.

And the same goes for R175, whose post just appeared as I finished typing this.

Ok, I can understand flirting with a fat/ugly girl to get laughs, even though it's juvenile and cruel, but fucking them? Even with a young guy who can always get it up, why have sex with someone you're supposedly disgusted by? Especially frat guys, aren't they the BMOC and can have pretty much anyone they want? If it's about bonding, I thought that's what hazing is for.

I am also not sure which part of this story is "horrifying". Somebody enlightne me?? It's a win-win, it seems.

This is why I laugh when men cry about "toxic masculinity" and how it hurt their feels..

Wait, so nobody should have sex under "false pretenses?" Who will ever have sex again?

[quote]I am also not sure which part of this story is "horrifying". Somebody enlightne me?? It's a win-win, it seems.

Umm maybe it's this part, you stupid, disgusting piece of shit:

"Sometimes they will then, in the completion of having sex with her, have the entire group of men come barging in the room, and they'll start oinking and harassing the woman until she leaves that space."

It's a big red flag when a guy invites you to have sex in his room at a frat house. Especially with other guys right down the hall.

Who would ever think this is a good idea?

R182, then turn the joke back at them.

Christ. Reading through the comments reminds me why there's nothing remotely likable about men, gay or straight...

Jesus H. Christ.

STOP FEEDING THE MRA TROLLS.

It's not a positive thing, but "horrifying"?

[quote]People rarely have "all the facts" when hooking up. Jesus. it's physical attraction and wanting to fuck. People lie all the time about themselves and no one cares.

Wrong R174. The assumption is you're going to fuck and that will be that or maybe it will lead to something more.

It's not that you're going to fuck the person, have all of their frat brothers come in and then make oink oink noises at you.

I know you know the difference.

What’s an MRA troll?

"Believe me, if you think they say terrible shit in front of you, you haven't heard half of what they say when there are no fraus around."

Same goes for gay men. Wish you could hear what straight men REALLY think about you then maybe you wouldn't side with them against women all the time like some of you losers are.

"So, in your mind, it's okay if the lie includes not letting the woman know that, in the middle of the sex act, a bunch of guys are going to bust into the room screming "oink, onk!!" If that's what you're saying, you need to be locked up in a facility for the criminally insane as soon as possible."

No. I simply mean a hookup based on deception - actual sexual encounter. If she wants to fuck because she thinks he's hot, but doesn't know that she's doing it as part of a competition, and they have sex and that's it - big deal. No it's not classy, it's not positive, but people aren't going to fill in all the facts or reveal all their motivations all the time when hooking up.

Other people busting in would be sexual assault if she didn't know and didn't consent to others seeing her naked and/or in the middle of intercourse.

[quote][R182], then turn the joke back at them.

SO much easier said than done, you idiot.

Who would go to a boy’s dorm room for the first time and immediately start engaging in sexual activity with him yet think, “he really cares about me and this is a deep shared intimacy?”

Are. You. Fucking. KIDDING ME???

Does hogging involve hog-tying?

R109 knows what's up. It is not just frat boys, any group of men out "on the prowl" will go home with the last woman available at closing time. And the joke between them will be: "Joe went hogging last night; damn dude!".

As the sign over the bar says: No one is ugly at 2 am

The element of the frat brothers barging in and making hog noises is cruel, but not unexpected. And for anyone having sex with a stranger these days, be prepared for your whorish ass, fat or not, to be shown to the world via the internet!

If I were a big fatty getting plowed by some hot frat boy and his brothers barged in I'd scream out. . CHOO CHOO LET'S GET THIS TRAIN ROLLING STUDS!!!

[quote]Who would go to a boy’s dorm room for the first time and immediately start engaging in sexual activity with him yet think, “he really cares about me and this is a deep shared intimacy?”

Though it may be hard for your pea brain to process this information, there is a huge chasm between assuming "he really cares about me and this is a deep shared intimacy" and NOT wanting to be humiliated. Maybe the woman in question just wanted to have sex with no strings attached but did NOT want to be interrupted and cruelly humiliated in the middle of the sex act by a group of frat guys.

We need more Abstinence Clubs on campus.

Some guy tried to do that to me and I throat punched him. Last time he and his friends try to go hogging.

To retaliate, could the woman just piss in the guy's bed?

R200 - She would probably be too nervous to go.

The hot could snap off the frat boys cock with the teeth in her vagina.

Then they secretly get turnt out by the fat bitch and her throat skills

[quote] The element of the frat brothers barging in and making hog noises is cruel, but not unexpected.

In what works is that “not unexpected”?

*In what world

There is an episode of Queer as Folk (American version) where a super hot guy bedded Ted. This happened on gay pride. Ted learned upon seeing him again and being ignored that he was a mercy *uck that this guy did annually to “give back”..

There are gang bang profile luring guys to parties. Perhaps this is the gay version of Hogging? Seems like the same issues of lower steamer involved.

This is clearly very callous behavior, but I'm not surprised by it. Straight men can be thoughtless, self-serving, massive assholes -- go back to 4chan if you're triggered by this fact.

R208 - unfortunately for myself, the only men I’m attracted to are straight, and yes they’re disgusting. And it gets more difficult to get them (good ones) the older I get.

If anyone expects frat boys to act gentlemanly, you are deluded.

R209 you can simply pay for them. But get known professional whores who won't kill you.

I can’t imagine a guy willing to having sex with a fat chick, even for a contest. It’s degrading for the guy.

Can any fat women WEIGH in on the HEAVY topic?

It's looming LARGE on my mind.

Please don't summon the heifers R213.

Buck would NEVER have gone hogging......but I'm sure the other one would.....Carlsbad or whatever his name was.

Buck was gay; of course he wasn't hogging women. Drug user too.

Don’t give fat women a hard time. The only women I’ve ever truly loved (real and celebrity) are fat women, or yo-yo diet women. They’re the sweetest and give the best hugs.

Going hogging has been around forever. Horny frat and college guys practice it any time they get drunk and horny and all the hot girls have turned them down. They tend to pick up a last minute pig and hog just to get off.

Well, this was news to me and I thought this was pretty fucking sad.

[quote]I can’t imagine a guy willing to having sex with a fat chick, even for a contest. It’s degrading for the guy.

The irony of a gay man saying this!

The only time I ever had sex with a woman was in college with a grotesque overweight pig. It was nauseating during the act, not just because she was female, but her physical appearance filled me with revulsion. I was drunk and I think she took advantage of me. I would never have sex with a fat chick again and I don’t think I could respect a man who willingly put his dick in one.

I might hit up a straight bar tonight and try this out! It's been awhile since I've had some puss!

R221 The truth is a lot of guys just like it. I see guys around town everyday, who are muscled or trim with their fatass wives whom they can't keep their hands off of. I'm sure for some of these guys it's not a chore to go hogging. Just like there are gay guys that look like Greek gods and chase after fat bears. The truth is the dick wants what the dick wants and it is different for each individual.

[quote] I see guys around town everyday, who are muscled or trim with their fatass wives whom they can't keep their hands off of.

Yes, we know these pigs reproduce. It’s not a good thing.

This is so wrong on every level.

Close the frats. All of them.

I hope there is no such thing as Reverse Hogging at Sorority House Parties.

You're a sicko, R221!

R223 Straight men are valued for their resources, not their looks. Hot straight guys are with ugly women because they don't have the resources to attract better.

Straight men can get away with anything, because gay men and straight women are all after their DICKS.

They are R230.

R229 That is true for some of them. But, resources doesn't come into it for as many people as you think. Sometimes they just like a fatty. A guy I went to HS with, always dated fat girls even though he was built like an A&F model, he came from a rich family, went to a good school, and is now a lawyer. He has the resources to get an upgrade, but he is married and seems very happy and sexually into his 300lb wife. Even though he is still in great shape and runs marathons.

People who try to explain relationships as being about looks, resources, social position, etc...miss the human element. Resources is something a logical person might assess in choosing a partner, but everyone isn't logical.

R232, that reminds me of a guy I know. Tall, handsome, owns his own company, and his wife/girlfriends have all been short, fat brunettes.

R233 Yep. Or like one of my aunts, she has had the chance to be with more successful fit men, but both of her husbands were mid-management overweight guys, and the one affair I know of her having was with a mid-management overweight guy. It's obvious for her it isn't about resources, she just likes fat guys.

I wish I could find the gay counterpart of HOGGERS.

Life would be heaven.

A friend in college who used to hog and hate fuck ugly girls (he was a hot frat type) anytime he was horny would say that not only were they easier to pick up late into the night in a pinch but they were also more grateful and excited and would suck dick when the hot girls always thought it was gross. We shared a room. I was shy and closeted at the time and I probably heard him have sex at least 50 times. I actually enjoyed that part.

Hogging was a small plot arc at the end of Sidweays when Miles and Jack are at the rib joint.

"Betcha that chick's two tons of fun; you know, the greatful type."

I'm sure there's hogging for sport - guys who can actually get and please more attractive women. But I'd also think some happens out of guys' insecurities. Don't want to be judged for limited sexual performance and/or maybe small penis by someone he thinks is hot. Easier to call sleeping with someone fat and/or unattractive a "mercy fuck" to maintain his ego.

[quote]OP: I've always disliked fraternities, for obvious reasons. But now, I am genuinely terrified of them after learning about a practice called "hogging."

Then lose some weight, fatso.

Apparently chubby chasers are not allowed in fraternities because it confuses the rest of the boys.

[quote] Don't want to be judged for limited sexual performance and/or maybe small penis by someone he thinks is hot

Anyone with a small penis should NOT be hooking up with a large woman.

A man would need at least an extra four inches, just to penetrate the outer layer of fat, to get to the actual pussy.

A four incher wouldn't even be able to get near her hole.

Heading' for Cornell.

So fat women are only fucked by men with massive dick? Okay, I guess it's that simple.

R236 The girls always look prettier at closin' time.

Men are egocentric pigs. Therefore totally into hogs.

When the HOT people (men or women, gay or straight), will only pursue and fuck other hotties, its check your privilege and ELITISM and NOT FAIR AT ALL. (Also trans genocide, but that's another can of worms.). And when HOT people pursue and fuck fugs, it's RAPEY and abusive.

Today I learned beggars CAN be choosers.

Well there you go, frat boys, stop all this or you'll lose the respect of r221.

Straight people are weird. They seem to hate the opposite sex yet most of them get married.

A lot of you are assuming the frat boys were/are hot. I was a Greek and that’s not always the case depending on the frat. The sororities usually have one or two houses that have the lesser attractive females in it.

So kind of the sorority goddesses to provide housing for the uggos r249.

I wonder if any of the Barden Bellas experienced this unspeakable abuse.

Even if this is true, it’s the woman’s fault. How narcissistic as these land whales to think athletic men really find them attractive

This has been something that has gone for years and years. Fraternities and sororities have gotten their kicks out of humiliating their "inferiors" for generations.

It's always interesting when posters are ok with such behavior since it doesn't happen to them. The tune would be very different if sorority sisters would target incels and make them feel like shit after sex. And no, the shame wouldn't make them go on a killing spree. They'd hide in their basements, like they always do. But they, those incels got some primo snatch, no need to complain, amirite?

If sorority sisters did it to inacctractive men I guarantee you no one would care- look how make rape victims are treated

What do you expect from fratboys who ply pledges with mass quantities of alcohol until they die?

And they always get a free pass for bad behavior.

I was in a fraternity and we did not ply pledges with alcohol.

Friendly reminder, this is a GAY site. This isn't a forum for portly chunky cis women to unload their emotional bullshit.

Casual, consensual college sex doesn't bother me. Young cunts can be stupid and cruel. And if women are as empowered as they think they are, they need to own their decisions and walk it off if it doesn't go suit their sensibilities.

What I find 'horrifying' is @megsforfun is 30 and has a gunt and she's all about body positivity. I think gunts are unhealthy and grotesque, but if someone can explain how having one is a positive, I'm happy to change my mind.

^ doesn't suit their sensibilities. When are we going to get an edit function on this damn site??

It must go back to antiquity. There’s a similar storyline in Mary Renault’s “The Persian Boy’.

News flash: this was featured in "Animal House." Frats are basically rape gangs with big budgets.

The saddest thing about this thread is that a bunch of hissy-prissy older gay men, many/most of whom were likely picked on in their early years can't wrap their heads around the fact that something that is done with the express purpose of being cruel to someone else and humiliating them is not cool under any circumstances.

[quote] I was in a fraternity and we did not ply pledges with alcohol.

Many do. At least the good ones.

Considering what they do to each other, I'm not surprised.

I when I was in college (early 90s) all the good fraternities hazed. I was recruited by the one who took the weirdos, gays, and minorities. Well there was one gay (me) and one black. I had fun, but we knew we weren’t “cool.”

Read the definition of incel R254. If they were getting pussy, they wouldn't be one, you dumb fuck.

[quote]I when I was in college (early 90s) all the good fraternities hazed.

When I was in college in the 00s there was hazing.

One frat used to sneak into the pledge's dorms at night, strip them down to their underwear, tie them to a stick and parade them across campus while being carried by the other brothers. We had one who would lead pledges into the catacombs under one of our history buildings and do freaky things to them while they were naked in the dark.

That all seems like harmless fun compared to later incidents.

The problem was, the first few major incidents involved people being plied with alcohol and injuring themselves including my friend who fell of a balcony. (He was still beautiful after and is today. He broke his arm and leg. He got extremely lucky.)

It took someone actually dying for the University to actually do something. The house lost their character. Everyone was forced dry for the rest of the semester and I think it made national news.

Oh, honey.

The gheys in Provincetown call it, “Bear Weekend”.

There are many problems in the world that are extremely difficult if not impossible to solve, but hazing is not one of them. I can't believe it still continues, but the solution is so obvious to me: Whenever an incident occurs, the fraternity responsible should be immediately closed and every person who participated expelled from the college and ALSO criminally prosecuted.

Is there something about my proposed solution that's not workable?

[quote]Is there something about my proposed solution that's not workable?

From a normal person's perspective, no.

From a University Gifting Officer who comes up short on donations from wealthy alumni who stop donating to the University because the frat they belonged to was shut down, then yes.

I think that might be the only reason.

I guess, R271. But even just from a monetary standpoint, giving up that "gifting" money is a better choice than leaving the university liable for hazing deaths, isn't it?

But also -- I suppose it wouldn't be necessary to outright ban any existing fraternities, only to make sure their leadership doesn't allow hazing, and to expel those students and replace them if they do.

As an fraternity alumnus I can tell you that hazing is actually a very important and necessary process. It “weeds out” the weak and ineffectual men from the ranks. Yes, it’s sometimes taken too far, but for the majority, it works. I’m a strong, successful businessman, partly because of this ritual. Think of it as a “basic training” for life.

R273 Humilliating yourself for the hivemind sounds weak to me but heeey, at least you got to fuck fatties

Please tell me R273 is parody. You're a "strong, successful"businessman" because the system is set up for you to succeed. Almost every "strong, successful businessman" I've met has been a blithering idiot, and thinks he got where he is due to his merits, hilarious.

I remember a pledge—naked except for whipping cream over his genitals—being carried around on a piece of plywood door to door of the sororities.

r262 except there was no rape here. Other men barging in and 'oinking', etc. until she leaves is clearly harassment, but none of it is sexual assault.

I am a fatty, where can I go to get hogged by hot college frat guys? I wont mind the insults if that floats your boat. We both get something out of it. Who is really using who?

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the girls who get oinked use that experience as an opportunity to turn their life around.

Are we missing the other side of this story? Desperate big fat chunky heifers who will throw their ham shanks in the air at any frat boy that shows them some attention.

[quote]But now, I am genuinely terrified of them

Why? Just how fucking fat ARE you, OP?

And straight men and incels wonder why so many women just hate them. Being unfortunate enough to be born in the misogynistic south, I made damn sure to have a career and become an independent women. While not gay or bi, I have found very few straight men attractive. If you had been surrounded by Kavenaughs and Franklin Grahams you would understand. They are repulsive. Bless their missing hearts.

[quote] And straight men and incels wonder why so many women just hate them.

Women on DL give themselves away when they uses the word “incel”. I don’t think they even know what the word means, since the guys having sex with the fugly porkers are by definition not incels. They’re just guys with strong stomachs.

Roxane Gay

My uncle spent his whole life "hogging" . He was a good looking,thin,muscular guy with a huge dick and he simply preferred big girls. When my family would tease him about it he'd always say "Fat girls have the best pussy!" I remember one time he was dating a very pretty girl who was tiny,we all knew she was history before it even started. Sure enough they didnt last a month. He's old as dirt now,but hes still married to my fat ass aunt. Oddly,none of his 4 kids are fat at all even though their mothers all were.

That woman makes me feel afraid, nervous, full, and very nearsighted, all at the very same time.

I thought Jews didn't go for pork.

R285 your uncle was like that because most straight guys know fat girls put out a lot more effort into making the man sexually happy in the bedroom, that woman who are thin and beautiful. Woman like that don't want to get down and dirty. And they are not going to worship a cock like a fat girl will do so she can hang on to that big catch she hooked.