Does anyone else think Paul Newman was too perfect looking?

Not too perfect looking. His face was quite lined by the 1960s. He was still hot. And his hair beat a retreat early too.

I actually think Robert Redford was better looking than Newman.

Redford was the one who was too "perfect looking" to be attractive. Newman had something bubbling under there that made him fuckable. I've never been into the famous pretty boys, save Montgomery Clift.

R2 same here same

He really had to work hard to emit the sex appeal.

R4 Dare I say it, I found Warren Beatty in Splendor in the Grass more attractive than Newman in any role.

And I think Robert Redford had a more natural sexuality on screen.

I never thought Redford was great looking.

R8 I was referring to Redford in films like Barefoot in the Park and The Way We Were.

Brando and Alain Delon also had these perfect faces, but they had something more,something magic. For Brando, there is all this testosterone and for Delon there was something that I cannot even define but I will say wild?

Yes Paul Newman was so handsome, but I am like you OP, there is something missing in him.

Brando and Dean do it for me partly because they weren’t perfect and had an edge to them. With Newman I’m missing that.

Newman was gorgeous but for some reason lacked sex appeal.

Newman looked like a statue.

But there was also a lot of life in his eyes... and mischief.

R3 Clift was really gorgeous before the car accident.

R12 I thought he had sex appeal in Paris Blues and Sweet Bird of Youth.

Clift looked like a Thunderbird puppet.

DLers confuse good looks with sexual charisma.

Which is why there are thousands of superb specimens in soap operas and night time dramas who the general public do not accept on the big screen as movie idols (back in the day when movie idols exist).

Newman is terrible when he was to work his sex appeal, like in Hud, where, as in r14, he smirked and strutted and worked the baby blues for all he was worth but it did the film a disservice and he wasn’t a good enough actor to make it work.

Brando didn’t have a perfect face at all. He was very handsome, but his magnetism was all about his energy.

Newman had sex appeal, he just wasn't whorish like Brando or... Tom Hardy.

R13 People act like Newman had the best looking face of all time, but I don’t see it all (judging by this pic).

Who would be your pic, r20?

I know you're going to hate me but the young David Bowie turns me on a thousand times more than Paul Newman

R21 Who had the best looking face? If we’re talking Old Hollywood men, I’d have to go with Farley Granger.

You're probably into Harry Styles as well.

Granger's lips were too much. Almost Charles Laughton like in their overabundance.

R24 NO NO NO, I'm not. Never. Ever. Bowie really had somethingon stage on clips. David Styles is an average Briton that I would never look back on.

^something on stage

Was it Bowie pretending to fellate Mick Ronson's guitar that did it for you?

I read the thread title out of the corner of my eye and thought it was about Phyllis Newman. After all, this is the Datalounge.

R25 Lol I see what you mean, but I still think he was gorgeous.

Granger could look mouth watering. And I think he aged well. But I don't think he was as photogenic as Newman.

R28 Hmmm I think the story about sexual romance between Bowie and Jagger is more exciting. But that's just me. Isn't he attractive here?

There is a safety about Paul Newman's looks. He was absolutely beautiful but he's similar to the hot preppy high school dad who plays tennis and everyone lusts for him (moms, daughters, teachers, gaylings.) And he flirts back with everyone!

R33 Reminds me of Brad Pitt, who I’m also not crazy about.

Marlon was very sensual and hot but you know he would degrade you and leave you feeling dirty.

R34, I understand. I do think Paul is more beautiful than Brad, but I would not turn either one of them down.

R17 Turn in the gay card, now! Monty was beautiful before the wreck, and I think his sex appeal is rooted in how much of a vulnerable, screwed up mess he obviously was. You want to take care of him.

It's funny that Alain Delon has been mentioned in this thread as an example of a gorgeous man with sexual charisma, when he totally leaves me cold. In the realm of 60s French actors, I'd let the young Jean-Paul Belmondo (RIP) have it any way. He was "Hollywood" ugly but unbelievably sexy. Amazing body.....

True that Belmondo had more sex appeal when he was young but Delon never left me cold. He can be annoying, but he doesn't leave many people indifferent. There is something unique about him That no one else has. His beauty and charisma were not ordinary in the cinema. world.

That "safe" comment applies more to Redford. Newman often played men outside the law, and not always the cool type. He would be more up for playing a "fallen" man than Redford (e.g. Newman's Tennessee Williams roles). Didn't Newman tried to make a movie of "The Front Runner." Safe? No, that's Redford.

Delon and Granger have elements of the painted tart. That's a turn on to some, of course. But a dead turn off to others.

Idk what this says about me but I’ve always been a James Dean girl.

Naaaah, when I click on this pic he definitely doesn't leave me cold.

Gregory Peck was really handsome too.

[Quote] Idk what this says about me but I’ve always been a James Dean girl.

That says you enjoy Old Teenagers.

R44 I think I’m just into twinks. Because I like Farley Granger too.

Granger does not play in the Delon ligue. I'm not even sure the rest of the world knows who Grander is. The whole world knows Delon. Even in the farthest reaches of China or Africa. Brando has the same success everywhere around the world.

"Rope" is probably a better known movie than anything Delon headlined.

R48 Granger didn’t have much of a career and name recognition, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t beautiful.

R48 Certainly, but it does not reach the tip of the feet of Delon. There is not even a match, Delon will win hands down, not only for his beauty but also for his talent.

Are you Madonna? Delon is not on the level of a Brando or Monroe or Hepburn. He was a beauty but he hasn't got their iconic status.

R50 I think his look is iconic tho, certainly on Brando’s level.

R50 I hate Madge. Try harder. You must live in autarky to think that only Americans are successful in the rest of the world. Take a look at the Internet all around the world and you will see how successful Delon is. Granger Who? Sorry I had never heard of him before this groupie thread that you are. Now it's time to leave this thread. You've spent your time bashing every actor who wasn't Granger that anyone but you knows. I know what people like you do on the DL. I'm already gone. Bye honey.

I didn't put forth Granger, hon.

Alain Delon, like Brigitte Bardot, should’ve died when they were young and beautiful.

Bardot is still influential, though. I remember Kylie Minogue and Kate Moss doing Bardot looks. Claudia Schiffer too.

I can't think of any men who've "done" Delon. (And I don't mean fucked him.)

R56 This image of Delon has over 600,000 notes on Tumblr.

Yeah, it's now about french bashing. How childish and stupid. The proof is that every American actresses copied her style. Bardot is the Brando of women, no one can compete with her. Keep raging

We could probably find a similar one for Helmut Berger. That still doesn't put him on the level of a Brando.

How is it French bashing. Isn't Bardot French?

Pretty face but scrawny arms and legs.

R58 Brando was many things, but he wasn’t a bigot like Bardot.

Can we get back to Paul Newman, the subject of this thread?

It's true, he preferred incest. R62

Scrawny?

John Woo was obsessed with Alain Delon. There are all kinds of references to him in the 80s and 90s movies Woo made.

Paul Newman gets excessive praise for his looks because of his body and eye color.

You don't even have to see his eyes to behold his beauty.

R68 Tiny lips

No, hon. That's just how he's holding his mouth.

I am not attracted to men who look too perfect, but I don’t think Newman was in that category. I find him charming, and he aged well.

Delon would probably just lie there and expect to be worshipped in bed. He seems like a sociopath too, what with how he openly treated his son with Nico. Pass.

Jealousy is so pathetic...Someone here is accusing others of being sociopath when he behaves like a psychopathic fanatic just because no one else than him thinks Granger is beautiful. No one.

Pathetic. Grow up.

[quote]Newman was gorgeous but for some reason lacked sex appeal.

R12, I would agree if weren’t for Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, but that’s the only time I thought he had "sexual charisma."

R54 I think they have something to tell you that sounds like a 'fuck you'.

Wishing death on people is what indoctrinated teens do on twitter. DL is a website for gay adults, you know that right?

Newman was like a Roman or Greek statue. His looks were off the charts when he was young, with tons of sex appeal (to me, anyway). I agree that he aged out of his looks somewhat quickly, but was still quite handsome into the 70s and even when he was older.

Warren Beatty, for me, had a short shelf life. Beyond Bonnie & Clyde, he did nothing for me. But he was hot as hell in Splendor In the Grass and Roman Spring Of Mrs. Stone.

Brando also aged quickly out of being hot. He was pure sex in Streetcar Named Desire, but I find him not sexy at all in On The Waterfront.

A lot of actors really did not age very well back in those days.

R75 I wasn’t wishing death on them genius. I was pointing out their legacies would’ve benefited from them dying when they were still young and beautiful.

The problem with Newman wasn't his looks, he was a stunner but one who didn't look out of place with the real world. The problem was that he wasn't a terribly good actor, and rarely had chemistry with other actors.

Same with Redford.

[quote] [R12], I would agree if weren’t for Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, but that’s the only time I thought he had "sexual charisma.

What made COAHTR sexy was Liz Taylor - the prettiest girl in the world in her prime - going overtime with sexual desire. She provided probably 85% of the heat he emitted.

[quote]What made COAHTR sexy was Liz Taylor - the prettiest girl in the world in her prime - going overtime with sexual desire. She provided probably 85% of the heat he emitted.

Definitely agree with this but he was also pretty good on his own.

Belmondo and Morricone.

Newman could give you a good performance, but he lacked consistency. Some of his work is as bad as some of it was good.

Redford, OTOH, is a true cipher onscreen. I can’t imagine why he was nominated for Best Actor for The Sting. That was just as mystifying as Ali McGraw’s nod was for Love Story.

He was very attractive but not perfect-looking. I find he had some ruggedness and could look like a good-looking man you would find on the street. Perfect looking would be like Matt Bomer or Henry Cavill who are completely unrelatable and look like walking mannequins.

Brad Pitt is another who fits perfect-looking better. Never had to work hard at anything in his life. He did a few interesting and off-kilter roles to stand out and not be seen as a Hollywood poolboy who got lucky then discarded once he became a movie star. Zac Efron is another.

As good-looking as Paul Newman was, he still had this everyman quality to him. His face still had lines and signs of sun damage.

Walking mannequins don't have T-Rex arms.

Brad Pitt chose wisely. It was not merely luck. Zac Efron is not comparable. And Zac hasn't even been married once, for some reason.

Newman also didn't have a ton of plastic surgery as he got older, which ruined the faces of some of his contemporaries, including Redford. He may have had a few light procedures done, but otherwise he kept it simple. Reportedly he used to dunk his face in ice water before takes to firm it up.

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I’m not into blonde, blue eyes look. I like white men with darker features.

I love his nose.

Handsome but little sex appeal.

R18. Yes, looks and sexual charisma are completely different things. Newman was a good-looking man and he aged well. But I don't think he's sexy at all. His sexiness in a role was more about acting a character than anything natural. Sexual charisma definitely comes from personality. It's not dependent on surface appearance (see Liam Neeson). If you don't have it naturally, you can't fake it.

Delon was beautiful and his sexiness didn't seem forced. The thing that was unappealing about him to me were his eyes. Pretty shape and long lashes, sure, yet they also looked cold and cruel. His youth couldn't hide that.

Being good-looking, photogenic, sexy, and charismatic are all different things. Newman was good-looking, photogenic, and charismatic, but not sexy.

Jack Nicholson, by contrast, wasn't good-looking, but he was charismatic, sexy, and photogenic. The camera loved him even though he wasn't good-looking, funny who it fancies.

[quote] He may have had a few light procedures done, but otherwise he kept it simple.

Paul Newman had a full facelift.

Newman had some work done. Good work though.

Delon was beautiful but he looked very French. He's an asshole but I don't think how he looks had anything to do with his personality. A lot of Europeans can appear bitchy and aloof to American eyes because of cultural mannerisms.

Brando had a busted nose and was short but exuded sex appeal. Steve McQueen was very sexy too, rugged and masculine.

R95 If you knew how shallow, ignorant and imperialist Americans can seem to the French and Europeans in general, you would calm down real quick. Delon was georgeous and like all gorgeous French stars it was America that came to lick his dick to get him into an American movie. He hesitated for years, he finally accepted but it was a big fail. He did not like the American way of working. Cinema was born in France, not in your country, so who is arrogant here? He is a star all over the world and America will not change that. I don't know if you've ever been anywhere out of your little American township but European men are much more handsome and elegant. They are more cultivated, they are not obese either. After all Americans white men come from Europe, you know that, right? Brando was right on American people, you all were raised to think you are the best of the humanity when in fact you are destroying the entire world. This is what I bitchy and aloof.

^This is what i call

R18 Totally agree with you

R96 What was the point of that lecture? I was just saying Americans may not understand why French and other Europeans seem so stoic and have neutral face and may perceive it as rude and stuck up. Paul Newman had a very American look, happy and smiling a lot. Alain did not. Everything you said was completely irrelevant and just makes you sound like an ignorant elitist. But, hey, if it helps you feel better about yourself than continue your condescension.

Jared Leto has an Alain Delon look about him.

You can keep Delon and his right wing beliefs. He should move in with his fellow cinematic bigot, that haggard cunt Brigitte Bardot.

Paul Newman was hot as fuck in Cool Hand Luke.

Hell no. But actually I’m no so into in when he was going - his face was too skinny. 70s/80s Paul Newman is for me. He looked his best in Absence of Malice/The Verdict.

Even with help, damn he aged so beautifully and gracefully. He’s tiny though I saw him once in person at Sarabeth’s.

I think Rock Hudson, Farley Granger, Robert Redford and Warren Beatty were closer to perfect looking for the time. Like Ken dolls.

Brando, Dean, Newman and Clift all had some approachability to them. They could get rugged and fit the part. Newman lacked the tortured soul look that the others had though.

Modern examples of too perfect looking would be Rob Lowe, Henry Cavill, Matt Bomer, Mario Lopez and most of the IG/TikTok hoes who get acting roles now.

Redford said he was grateful for having bad skin because otherwise he would have been "too pretty" to play many of the roles he played.

How tiresome, OP. Why don't you do some volunteer work or at least SOMETHING moderately productive?

Lookalike Landon Michaels/Marcus Mojo proves Newman could have had a successful gay porn career!

Tab Hunter is the one whose looks could kill if a smile were a weapon.

R108 that’s not a nose any man should have.

R105 realizing now that it annoys me when good looking actors know it. I much prefer the false modesty.

[quote] realizing now that it annoys me when good looking actors know it. I much prefer the false modesty.

LOL. It does seem obnoxious, but he was sort of giving himself a backhanded compliment. Also, he seems to be the type of guy who would regard being "pretty" as mortifying.

Luke Evans said something similar.

I don’t think he was perfect looking at all. His charm was that he looked like a good looking normal guy. His hair was rather thin already by “cat on. Hot tin roof” and he looked already closer to 50 than 20 despite the fact he was only about 30. Yet he was a good looking 50. And he kept this look for a long stretch. Delon for example looked gorgeous for maybe a few years in the late 50s - early 60s but had lost it by the late 60s in my opinion. Hell, I would do Newman in the verdict even. He was good looking long into the 1980s.

Redford makes me laugh…he never really acts in films; he merely hangs out in them.

Redford's ridiculous wig at r8 is what's making me laugh!