He was great in Badlands and Apocalypse Now.
Why didn’t Martin Sheen make it as a leading man in movies?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 13, 2021 5:28 PM |
Explain it to me, eldergays.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | November 10, 2021 6:34 AM |
He was talented but didn't really stand out in an era where Jack Nicholson, Dustin Hoffman, Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino were being offered the more interesting male leads and were big box office. Plus there were the more handsome leading men like Robert Redford, Paul Newman, and Warren Beatty to contend with.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 10, 2021 6:34 AM |
Her refused to suck dick for roles?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 10, 2021 6:37 AM |
R2 That makes sense. He also seems content with being a character actor.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | November 10, 2021 6:44 AM |
I recently saw him in an old episode of Columbo. He was gorgeous.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 10, 2021 6:50 AM |
Too short.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 10, 2021 6:51 AM |
It’s karma for unleashing Charlie Sheen on the world.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | November 10, 2021 3:23 PM |
Bump
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 10, 2021 10:36 PM |
Yes, he was very short. The internet tells me he is or was 5'7". To me, that goes a long way toward explaining it. Also, as cute as he was, his looks are a little bit odd.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 10, 2021 10:39 PM |
Loved him as President Bartlett.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 10, 2021 11:20 PM |
alcoholism
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 10, 2021 11:44 PM |
Aren't Hoffman and Pacino nearly as short? I'm not sure it's his height.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | November 11, 2021 12:02 AM |
Atrocious looking
by Anonymous | reply 13 | November 11, 2021 12:03 AM |
Short, stumpy and no charizz
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 11, 2021 12:13 AM |
Dustin Hoffman wasn’t that good looking so I’m not sure why people keep bringing up looks.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 11, 2021 12:21 AM |
He has spent years guest starring on just about every hour long show on network tv. He was probably seen as a tv actor and someone whose film work was not initially in big pictures with Badlands being an indie film. Apocalypse Now was a big film but an ensemble piece. His heart attack may have labeled him as a potential problem.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 11, 2021 12:21 AM |
He has a really impressive filmography. I’m shocked at how much he’s worked. But look at the titles. So much gloomy, dark, off center stuff that’s just not movie star material.
I’m actually surprised that he landed Grace and Frankie given his generally sober roles.
I also think his political activism may have hindered his career.
Personal side note - my family sat behind his at the 80s revival of West Side Story. We all chatted during intermission and they were all really into the show and very cool with us. My brothers were very impressed with them as they were about the same age as Emilio and Charlie.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | November 11, 2021 12:42 AM |
He played gay early in his career - That Certain Summer - for TV. There was no kissing in it but I think that would have derailed him in the industry, But he has a great sexy laugh.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | November 11, 2021 1:17 AM |
He was EVIL and annoying in The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane, and the industry made him pay for that. “You are EVIL, Mister Martin Sheen!” said Hollywood. They never forgave him for that.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 11, 2021 1:42 AM |
SHORT, ordinary, weird voice.
THREAD CLOSED
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 11, 2021 1:49 AM |
If you look at his IMDb, the amount of work he has done is pretty amazing. A true actor.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 11, 2021 1:49 AM |
1975's Sweet Hostage. That's a movie that would never get made today.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | November 11, 2021 1:54 AM |
He's a great, dependable character actor which is better than being a star. It's obvious that he'll be working until his last day on this earth and he's probably never lacked decent roles. Just looking at his filmography shows a lot of films and performances that will be remembered and discussed long after we've all left this planet. That seems like a solid career to me.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 11, 2021 1:54 AM |
Sheen’s idol James Dean was also short. I believe he was 5′8″
by Anonymous | reply 25 | November 11, 2021 1:59 AM |
Golden Globe-nominated (as Supporting, even though he was really the lead) in one of his first movies, "The Subject Was Roses," which was on TCM a few days ago. His co-star, Jack Albertson, won an Oscar.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 11, 2021 2:45 AM |
and Patrica Neal's post-stroke comeback movie - also Oscar nominated.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 11, 2021 2:47 AM |
R2 has it right. He was simply eclipsed by bigger stars in a generation where male actors (Hoffman, Nicholson, Beatty, Pacino and De Niro) were actually more dominant/bankable than leading ladies (Sally Field, Faye Dunaway, Raquel Welch, Pam Grier). He's clearly a talented actor who shines in whatever role he takes on, but he just couldn't stand out in such a crowded field.
Same thing for Timothy Hutton or Gabriel Byrne in that crowd of Cruise/Penn/Hanks/Denzel, or Christina Ricci compared to Winona Ryder or Natalie Portman.
The stage is big enough to hold a lot of talent, but the spotlight can only shine on so much of it at a time.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 11, 2021 2:57 AM |
He did make it as a leading man until he transitioned to character roles. The West Wing was one of the best of his post leading man roles but, arguably, he was still the lead.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 11, 2021 2:58 AM |
Dean was also Charles Starkweather's idol.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 11, 2021 2:58 AM |
He was more likely to be a leading man on tv than in films--usually a supporting or ensemble player in the movies.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 11, 2021 2:59 AM |
R29 The President was supposed to only be an occasional presence on a show about White House staff, but they liked Sheen so much that they beefed up his part.
Also, they almost cast Sidney Poitier or Alan Alda for that part, and I just can't see it being the hit it was with one of those two in the role.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 11, 2021 3:00 AM |
He has/had no sex appeal.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 11, 2021 3:42 AM |
Poitier would have been very good and more subtle than Sheen. Alda would have been insufferable. There's a reason Woody Allen and his appearance in "And the Band Played On" helped revive his career by making him appear unsympathetic.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 11, 2021 4:22 AM |
R34 Alan Alda eventually won an Emmy for playing a McCain-esque candidate for president who very nearly won the election to replace President Bartlet at the end of TWW.
He did a good job with it, and was at least as compelling as his opponent (played by Jimmy Smits).
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 12, 2021 2:03 AM |
[quote] and Patrica Neal's post-stroke comeback movie
Wasn’t that ‘The Night Digger’?
by Anonymous | reply 36 | November 12, 2021 2:39 AM |
R36 No.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 12, 2021 9:04 PM |
R36 Nah, you're thinking of Mandingo
by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 13, 2021 5:01 PM |
Alan Alda always looked like a male Florence Henderson to me.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | November 13, 2021 5:28 PM |