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Why didn’t Martin Sheen make it as a leading man in movies?

He was great in Badlands and Apocalypse Now.

by Anonymousreply 39November 13, 2021 5:28 PM

Explain it to me, eldergays.

by Anonymousreply 1November 10, 2021 6:34 AM

He was talented but didn't really stand out in an era where Jack Nicholson, Dustin Hoffman, Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino were being offered the more interesting male leads and were big box office. Plus there were the more handsome leading men like Robert Redford, Paul Newman, and Warren Beatty to contend with.

by Anonymousreply 2November 10, 2021 6:34 AM

Her refused to suck dick for roles?

by Anonymousreply 3November 10, 2021 6:37 AM

R2 That makes sense. He also seems content with being a character actor.

by Anonymousreply 4November 10, 2021 6:44 AM

I recently saw him in an old episode of Columbo. He was gorgeous.

by Anonymousreply 5November 10, 2021 6:50 AM

Too short.

by Anonymousreply 6November 10, 2021 6:51 AM

It’s karma for unleashing Charlie Sheen on the world.

by Anonymousreply 7November 10, 2021 3:23 PM

Bump

by Anonymousreply 8November 10, 2021 10:36 PM

Yes, he was very short. The internet tells me he is or was 5'7". To me, that goes a long way toward explaining it. Also, as cute as he was, his looks are a little bit odd.

by Anonymousreply 9November 10, 2021 10:39 PM

Loved him as President Bartlett.

by Anonymousreply 10November 10, 2021 11:20 PM

alcoholism

by Anonymousreply 11November 10, 2021 11:44 PM

Aren't Hoffman and Pacino nearly as short? I'm not sure it's his height.

by Anonymousreply 12November 11, 2021 12:02 AM

Atrocious looking

by Anonymousreply 13November 11, 2021 12:03 AM

Short, stumpy and no charizz

by Anonymousreply 14November 11, 2021 12:13 AM

Dustin Hoffman wasn’t that good looking so I’m not sure why people keep bringing up looks.

by Anonymousreply 15November 11, 2021 12:21 AM

He has spent years guest starring on just about every hour long show on network tv. He was probably seen as a tv actor and someone whose film work was not initially in big pictures with Badlands being an indie film. Apocalypse Now was a big film but an ensemble piece. His heart attack may have labeled him as a potential problem.

by Anonymousreply 16November 11, 2021 12:21 AM

He has a really impressive filmography. I’m shocked at how much he’s worked. But look at the titles. So much gloomy, dark, off center stuff that’s just not movie star material.

I’m actually surprised that he landed Grace and Frankie given his generally sober roles.

I also think his political activism may have hindered his career.

Personal side note - my family sat behind his at the 80s revival of West Side Story. We all chatted during intermission and they were all really into the show and very cool with us. My brothers were very impressed with them as they were about the same age as Emilio and Charlie.

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by Anonymousreply 17November 11, 2021 12:42 AM

He played gay early in his career - That Certain Summer - for TV. There was no kissing in it but I think that would have derailed him in the industry, But he has a great sexy laugh.

by Anonymousreply 18November 11, 2021 1:17 AM

He was EVIL and annoying in The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane, and the industry made him pay for that. “You are EVIL, Mister Martin Sheen!” said Hollywood. They never forgave him for that.

by Anonymousreply 19November 11, 2021 1:42 AM

SHORT, ordinary, weird voice.

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by Anonymousreply 20November 11, 2021 1:49 AM

If you look at his IMDb, the amount of work he has done is pretty amazing. A true actor.

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by Anonymousreply 21November 11, 2021 1:49 AM

1975's Sweet Hostage. That's a movie that would never get made today.

by Anonymousreply 22November 11, 2021 1:54 AM

He's a great, dependable character actor which is better than being a star. It's obvious that he'll be working until his last day on this earth and he's probably never lacked decent roles. Just looking at his filmography shows a lot of films and performances that will be remembered and discussed long after we've all left this planet. That seems like a solid career to me.

by Anonymousreply 23November 11, 2021 1:54 AM

Sheen looked good in Badlands.

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by Anonymousreply 24November 11, 2021 1:56 AM

Sheen’s idol James Dean was also short. I believe he was 5′8″

by Anonymousreply 25November 11, 2021 1:59 AM

Golden Globe-nominated (as Supporting, even though he was really the lead) in one of his first movies, "The Subject Was Roses," which was on TCM a few days ago. His co-star, Jack Albertson, won an Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 26November 11, 2021 2:45 AM

and Patrica Neal's post-stroke comeback movie - also Oscar nominated.

by Anonymousreply 27November 11, 2021 2:47 AM

R2 has it right. He was simply eclipsed by bigger stars in a generation where male actors (Hoffman, Nicholson, Beatty, Pacino and De Niro) were actually more dominant/bankable than leading ladies (Sally Field, Faye Dunaway, Raquel Welch, Pam Grier). He's clearly a talented actor who shines in whatever role he takes on, but he just couldn't stand out in such a crowded field.

Same thing for Timothy Hutton or Gabriel Byrne in that crowd of Cruise/Penn/Hanks/Denzel, or Christina Ricci compared to Winona Ryder or Natalie Portman.

The stage is big enough to hold a lot of talent, but the spotlight can only shine on so much of it at a time.

by Anonymousreply 28November 11, 2021 2:57 AM

He did make it as a leading man until he transitioned to character roles. The West Wing was one of the best of his post leading man roles but, arguably, he was still the lead.

by Anonymousreply 29November 11, 2021 2:58 AM

Dean was also Charles Starkweather's idol.

by Anonymousreply 30November 11, 2021 2:58 AM

He was more likely to be a leading man on tv than in films--usually a supporting or ensemble player in the movies.

by Anonymousreply 31November 11, 2021 2:59 AM

R29 The President was supposed to only be an occasional presence on a show about White House staff, but they liked Sheen so much that they beefed up his part.

Also, they almost cast Sidney Poitier or Alan Alda for that part, and I just can't see it being the hit it was with one of those two in the role.

by Anonymousreply 32November 11, 2021 3:00 AM

He has/had no sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 33November 11, 2021 3:42 AM

Poitier would have been very good and more subtle than Sheen. Alda would have been insufferable. There's a reason Woody Allen and his appearance in "And the Band Played On" helped revive his career by making him appear unsympathetic.

by Anonymousreply 34November 11, 2021 4:22 AM

R34 Alan Alda eventually won an Emmy for playing a McCain-esque candidate for president who very nearly won the election to replace President Bartlet at the end of TWW.

He did a good job with it, and was at least as compelling as his opponent (played by Jimmy Smits).

by Anonymousreply 35November 12, 2021 2:03 AM

[quote] and Patrica Neal's post-stroke comeback movie

Wasn’t that ‘The Night Digger’?

by Anonymousreply 36November 12, 2021 2:39 AM

R36 No.

by Anonymousreply 37November 12, 2021 9:04 PM

R36 Nah, you're thinking of Mandingo

by Anonymousreply 38November 13, 2021 5:01 PM

Alan Alda always looked like a male Florence Henderson to me.

by Anonymousreply 39November 13, 2021 5:28 PM
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