Ma Ingalls: Pa mocked my bod!

I always got the impression that landon was a creep

She was quite pretty back in the day.

[quote]then transferred to the University of California, Berkeley.[1] She graduated with BA degrees in 1965 in English and in Dramatic Art. She received a Fulbright Fellowship to the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art in London.[1] She apprenticed at the Actor's Workshop of San Francisco in 1961–62.

Grassle had real theatrical chops and training, and appeared on Broadway. Chances are that Landon may have been intimidated.

I've always loved her. She was very pretty. She projected a wholesomeness that was perfect for that role.

Everyone knew he was a complete asshole.

It's so interesting how people America worshiped were actually shitbags (Landon, Cosby, MJ, John Denver, etc)

In a way, you wonder why women bothered to act. They were treated so poorly. It's funny how the myth about movie making never shattered. People are still so drawn to it when it just ruins most people.

What does Nellie think?

I see her Oscar campaign has begun.

God that shocks me. Ma was a central character. I liked her better than Laura and Pa as a kid. Hairy Mary was dull and odd Carrie. Ma stood up to the bullies IIRC? She should have had equal acting pay to Landon. Pa would have looked like a lonely perv with no Ma.

But did he make crude jokes about how a woman smelled after sex?

Asshole wrote me out, nearly ending my budding career.

Karen Grassle will win the Oscar this year for Not to Forget so fuck Pa!

Is she in an actual movie? What?

I remember when the Apple Council had her promoting "the Apple Diet" in full page magazine ads in the 70s. You were supposed to eat an apple a day to help curb your appetite.

How obnoxious and egomaniacal Michael Landon was has been covered. I even remember an article in TV Guide when Little House was on the air about how he disrupted sets, dismissed writers/directors and made episodes all improvisation, which drove everyone crazy. I wondered how much coke he was consuming.

Kate Lawrence was the ultimate '70s mom.

Yes, r13. A real film.

I always loved how when Ma had more to do in the first few seasons she was always so great at sweetly but firmly dealing with Mrs. Oleson's bitchy behavior.

OK, R17, that's a start. Don't make me pull it out of you, because I use a spoon and I start with your eyes.

[quote]What's more, he made crude remarks, using nasty language like 'c**t' on set and making 'disgusting jokes about how a woman smelled after sex.'

She should have just stared at him and said, "At least I never soiled the bed."

Mrs. Olesen was the best character on that show.

Agreed, R2, very pretty indeed, and with some classy Broadway credits pre-“Little House”.

Never could stand Landon, he always seemed like a phony, bullying creep. Espousing family values on “Little House” and that saccharine follow-up, “Highway to Heaven” while he traded in his wife for a much-younger woman.

How fucking dull of you, r19.

When did Landon soil the bed? I must have missed that Very Special Episode!

But he was HOT - so the dead, barrel-chested SOB gets a pass.

Ma should have fed him some of that lamb from the anthrax episode.

Landon never gave us any lines! Made us feel like a worthless character! And to think we/I turned down the Barbara Cooper role on The Bonnie Franklin Show!!!!! FU!!!

At least Michael gave us Christopher Landon.

On Broadway with Diana Sands and George Grizzard.

IMO, Michael Landon was not hot. I don't remember him from Bonanza days, but do remember him from LHotP. Disappointing!!! I read the Little House books and he was not at all what I imagined or hoped for. (Neither was Melissa Gilbert, frankly - ugh! Ma / Grassle was the most in line with the book characters.)

Also, wide body. Not fat, but wide. Who the fuck told him he was that sexy?

Michael Landon was Jewish and probably cut *

* Mother was Catholic

OMG, who knew Michael Landon started that DL thread "Little Cunt On The Prairie"!?

Pa was even meaner than Nellie Olsen!

Pa Ingles - a man so mean he once shot a cunt just for stinkin’

They basically drank all day on set

I just wanna know what kind of smell a woman gave off after sex. A stinking fish?

That’s nothing R35. On “Match Game” we drank on camera. .

It's not surprising Grassle and Landon didn't get along. She was a feminist and Landon was an old-school type of guy. But I don't think Grassle was all that tight with anyone from the cast. I remember she once said he was even uncomforable around the children at first, since she wasn't a mother. I think over time she might have been less than an outsider.

That set was very male oriented though, with lots of practical jokes going on all the time, so I wouldn't be surprised ifthere were lots of off color jokes flying around too. But all of the original child actors besides Anderson were very complementary of Landon, saying he was very good to them overall and protected them. Many of the other women on the cast like Charlotte Stewart, Hersha Parady, Lucy Lee Flippin, and Bonnie Bartlett spoke very well of Landon for the most part. Occasionally they seemed to be hesitant to comment on certain things, so I'm sure there were times when they seen or heard him doing questionable things on set.

I don't think he and Katherine McGregor got along very well either, especially at the beginning. She was very vocal about how she seen her character and what she should be portrayed, but Landon finally seen she knew what she was doing and let her do her thing.

The smell a woman has after sex would be old cum, R36

Damn. She's nearly 80? She looks amazing

Whatever bad smell Landon was bitching about was due to his own smell, too. What an asshole.

I can't believed she hot knifed her own shin to stay with that guy.

Man, as a 12 year old kid, I drooled over the outline of his cock in his khaki pants on Bonanza!

I loved it when he was sweaty and shirtless on Little house!

[quote] They basically drank all day on set

And that was just the children!

It was not on "Little House"--he made a TV movie about the fact that he used to wet the bed as a teenager and that his evil mother thought he did it on purpose, so on laundry days she would hang his soiled sheets out to dry to punish him. he would run straight home from school before the school bus got there so no one would see the soiled sheets. this led to him being such a good runner that he was the star of the track team.

So he made a movie about it. I am not making this up.

[quote]'He could also be vindictive. I remember him telling me the main reason he decided to blow up the town of Walnut Grove at the end of Little House was so that no one else would ever be able to use our sets.'

Vindictive? I think that's pretty damn funny.

[R 23] Landon was a bedwetter as a child but claimed not as an adult.

I doubt Michael Landon could smell anything. He smoked four packs of unfiltered cigarettes a day for years. Story goes he also kept a pint of vodka in his pocket on set--between the vodka and the cigs the odor emanating from his breathe and pores must have been powerful.

The Little House set was very boozy.

IFHH and ILHFMH.

In the end, she lived, he died.

Alison Arngrim's memoir is very good, I recommend it. She said that when the booze was getting low on the Little House set, it was an emergency. A couple crew members were immediately dispatched to the store to re-stock, not matter what time it was. They'd head out to get cases of beer and bottles of whiskey at 9:00 in the morning if need be.

Michael Landon always had a cup of whiskey at his side, which he'd nip on all day. No doubt that was why he died of pancreatic cancer.

I know 2 kids named Landon, a bunch of Rivers and a Ryder. Gen X parents.

Is it true Michael Landon is Chris Cuomo's role model?

[quote]But did he make crude jokes about how a woman smelled after sex?

Or how his sheets smelled in the morning?

He must've fucked some skanks who didn't wash their pussy pies. Gross.

@r28, "At least Michael gave us Christopher Landon."

That's my boy

^ that isn't really his son is it?

Pa Ingalls raped me!

Everyone raped you, R59, we get it.

Alison Arngrim is still doing tours in her one woman show and jokes about his ego, reminding the audience that Pa never broke a leg or hip, only his arms and ribs so he could show off his chest. I saw it in New York City a few months ago and she was awesome. If she had any bitterness she's gotten over it through her humor. She said that Richard Bull basically played himself and was always kind to her. Katherine McGregor thought that Landon strutted around like a rooster and made fun of that. McGregor could be haughty but it was always for the sake of making a better show and she was never deliberately mean. Landon probably had his hands full with her and I hope she made him quake in his boots when she approached him, but he never had her or Nels on the back burner so obviously he grew to respect her.

@r58, Yes it is...

"Landon is the son of late actor Michael Landon."

The picture posted of his (gay) screenwriter son Christopher is real.

Landon always looked incredibly healthy, but was a notorious smoker and drinker. He believed that this contributed to his pancreatic and liver cancer. He announced his cancer in April 1991. He infamously appeared on Carson’s TONIGHT SHOW on May 9, looking healthy and joking about his diagnosis, but he was already terminally ill. I remember watching his appearance live. He died less than 2 months later on July 1.

Part 1 of his final Carson appearance.

and Part 2.

His name always comes up in the possible, hidden AIDS deaths, since he died in 1991, but I’m sure it was cancer from his lifestyle of smoking and drinking. He and Carson both were vindictive assholes who treated their spouses horribly and were functional alcoholics.

Not paying Grassle more than what the children were paid is insulting. And they could have turned the “town” into a tourist-type spot or definitely reused parts of the set.

OP- Ma Ingalls looks like Nellie Oleson in your photo on the right.

Charlotte Stewart (Miss Beadle) led a much different life than her onscreen character. From IMDB:

Penned a tell-all autobiography where she admits being a wild party girl, becoming addicted to both drugs and alcohol after Little House on the Prairie ended and becoming homeless, soon after she left the series.

Among the many men she admitted having hook-ups with were Jon Voight, Bill Murray, Victor French ("Mr. Edwards" in the series), Ralph Waite, Mike Connors, Chad Everett and Jim Morrison.

I've heard Michael Landon was hung as a horse. His son shows he inherited that characteristic from someone in the family. His great helmet head makes me wonder if Landon had one too.

The reason for blowing up the town isn't true.

NBC leased the land for the Little House sets from Getty, who required the network to return an empty lot when the series was over.

The sets were always going to be struck, they just decided to include it in the show.

I highly suspected Landon was a piece of shit long ago, when he dumped his wife of almost 20 years and married that much younger tarted up bottle blonde hussy. And no decent man would walk around with no underwear on just so his dick would be flopping around for the world to see.

Wow, R67 Miss Beadle got some high quality dick.

Frau alert! Frau alert at r70.

And no decent man would walk around with no underwear on just so his dick would be flopping around for the world to see.

At certain bars, I do.

[quote] But all of the original child actors besides Anderson were very complementary of Landon,

Oh, dear.

[quote]so I'm sure there were times when they seen or heard him doing questionable things on set.

Oh, dear!

[quote]She was very vocal about how she seen her character

Oh, DEAR!

[quote]but Landon finally seen she knew what she was doing

Oh, fucking DEAR!!

Learn English!

Good one, r55.

That’s downright HEE-larious. Especially because no one has brought that up yet! Nope, not a one post about it.

You fucking moron.

[quote] and the cigs the odor emanating from his breathe

Oh, dear. I can’t breath!

Melissa Sue Anderson commented once long ago about how the kids would talk about and laugh at Landon walking around with no underwear on. Any man who does it as overtly as he did, does it on purpose. If you're in a gay bar as R73 said it's AOK. But out amongst children it's simply vulgar and frankly pervy.

Won’t somebody think of the CHILDREN?!?!!!1!

MARY!!!!

INGALLS!!!!

I remember when Michael Landon was ill and died was was portrayed as if he was some kind of fucking saint. Never fooled me. I always figured he was a cunt.

Wonder if Grassle will write on what exactly happened when her character was written out the last two seasons or so. Fired or quit? Also, does anyone know why Melissa Sue didn’t appear in the finale? I thought it was crazy Mary wasn’t there.

ff the frau. 70's no underwear. not unusual.

what would she think of the tennis shorts?

what would she think of the tennis shorts?

Melissa Gilbert kept her distance from Landon after he left his wife and kids for that woman. Missy was very tight with his kids and never forgave him.

r74 actually took the time to cut and paste and respond to all of that. What a sad, pathetic person

R5 what did John Denver do?

Michael Landon was on Johnny Carson's show and they were talking about Bonanza. Johnny said something to the effect of "you know, those Cartwright boys, always together on that ranch of theirs, never any women around. What was that about?" Michael Landon replied "oh no, the Cartwright boys weren't gay. **pause** But thank God Hop Sing WAS!" The audience was hysterical and Johnny was laughing so hard he was doubled over his desk. It was very funny.

I was never a big LHOTP fan when I was a kid, and really didn’t like Landon, but I did like Ma and the Olesons.

[quote] R74 actually took the time to cut and paste

Do you know how copy and paste works? Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V.

Really not that difficult nor time-consuming.

Karen Grassle might have been pretty liberal in some ways: one of her husbands was Leon Russom, who appeared naked in the original cast of "Oh! Calcutta!) along with Alan Rachins and Billy (Maude) Macy. There were full-frontals of the cast in the book and souvenir program for sale at the time -- I guess it must have been in their contracts when they signed to do the show. Leon went on to do lots of soaps and appeared in at least one of the "Star Trek" series. He was quite hot when young - and hung!

Bill Macy, that is of "Maude" - yes, who was also naked; Alan Rachins was gorgeous when he wore his wig; even back then, with it, he looked like a hairy Louis Jourdan.

My sister and I went to hear Karen talk at a local historical society event a few years ago. We both loved the show as kids. We were latchkey kids, and Ma was a calm presence when we watched after school.

There was a huge turnout, and afterward she signed autographs patiently for at least 2 hours in the heat. She had a brace on her writing arm, but signed away and stood repeatedly for photos. Very lovely woman, clearly intelligent and professional. We were trying to get a photo quickly so as to not keep her too long, and she said "Oh, let's stand over to the side so the children have room and you'll get a better photo." She then directed my nieces and nephew on how to pose and complimented them. I thought my sister was going to cry.

They needed to close the line, but she made sure anyone who already had been waiting would get in to see her. There really was a huge response-you could tell even after all these years people felt a connection.

Her talk was interesting, although I felt for her because the audience questions were full of Landon inquiries. She was polite and did her best to paint him in a flattering light while acknowledging that he could be challenging. Reading this makes it all the more clear how difficult it must be to placate his fans who want to see him as a true living saint.

Karen said they've all stayed in touch, and talked about Katherine MacGregor extensively. She said Katherine couldn't be further from her character, and that while she was sadly living in a care facility, she still answered fan mail whenever possible.

I'm looking forward to the book.

Katherine is in assisted living?

Sorry to go on and on at R94. It was a wonderful experience.

We brought our mother, who has no use for sentimental television but wanted to see the exhibits. My mother was not fond of Michael Landon, and after about the 10th question about him, she muttered "for Pete's sake, can't you tell he was a monster to work with, and let this woman have some peace!"

R95 If she wasn't in assisted living, she had slowed down to the point where she couldn't do reunions and such. I could be recalling incorrectly. I remember Karen's tone was sad about Katherine's current situation, but that she had high praises for her as a person and actress.

Can someone make a poll? Who was bigger bully - Nellie Oleson or Pa Ingalls?

r91 it's time for the nurse to put you to bed

Oh my, Katherine MacGregor has died and I wasn't aware. At the time she was still with us, and I believe she had a home aide or lived in a facility.

Here is a link to a letter she wrote to a fan in her last years.

i'm so high.

wtf was that above?

Katherine lived in a home for retired actors/actresses.

laura was too ugly.

i avoided watching it for that reason and the 'tard.

landon was hot though.

Michael Landon will not be remembered for his three TV series. He will be remembered for two things: the title role in the classic "I Was A Teenage Werewolf"; and having a daughter who won three consecutive Emmy awards.

For R 36 Re: smell . Used to be deputy da years ago. The olden days where the asst head deputy had « girlie photos «  plastered all over the walls.

He also posted « gems «  from police reports :

«  it smells funky in here … someone been fuckin my woman?? » per some witness

Straighten woman here . I’m all for fairness in the workplace but these little entitled metoo bitches have NO IDEA what is what like …, I just laughed and moved on …. Everything wasn’t so fucking serious when u were prosecuting murderers etc

[QUOTE]Also, does anyone know why Melissa Sue didn’t appear in the finale? I thought it was crazy Mary wasn’t there.

Mary was blind, she got lost on the way to the set.

Alison's Arngrim's Confessions of a Prairie Bitch is the best celebrity memoir bar none

Poor “Karen”. Last I saw, she was shilling old people sit baths on the mesothelioma channel.

[quote] Wonder if Grassle will write on what exactly happened when her character was written out the last two seasons or so. Fired or quit?

Landon was the one who wanted to step away from the show so they revamped it as Little House: A New Beginning and focused more on Laura and Almanzo. They wrote that Charles had sold the farm and was moving the family to the city. A really lazy plot point considering how frequently they had Landon’s character talk about hating the city and country farm life was so much better. Grassle did return for the finale where they blew up the town.

[quote]Also, does anyone know why Melissa Sue didn’t appear in the finale? I thought it was crazy Mary wasn’t there.

The Mary character had left the show a couple seasons before they blew up the town. Melissa Sue Anderson had been over the show for some time by the time she left. Even the last season where she was in the opening credits she only appeared in maybe half that season’s episodes. It was written that she and husband Adam were moving to New York where he would work in his father’s law practice. MSA apparently had something of a falling out with Landon over the writing of a later season episode and spoke publicly about how she thought he was pandering to the audience. (Really? She just now noticed?) She only appeared on the show once after that and was relegated to the closing credits with the extras and day players.

Duhhhhh!

And Gil Gerard thought he gave her the clap.

How the fuck do you people remember all this shit after 40 years?

it is odd. read it high.

Translation for this article:

She wants an Oscar nomination and is going the Viola "I've suffered so much" route.

Let's not forget the first wife and family...

"Landon and Levy-Fraser got married on March 11, 1956, per IMDb. At the time, Levy-Fraser was a widowed legal secretary, according to INSP. Landon was 19 and Levy-Fraser was about 25 then. Landon’s parents were not present at the wedding ceremony.

Landon adopted Levy-Fraser’s biological son Mark, and the couple adopted another son, Josh, as an infant, in 1960."

That show ran forever and has been in reruns probably around the globe for decades. Even with the shitty child-actor pay scale, what would someone like Karen be pulling in from residuals? Any ideas?

Absolutely nothing, R115. Nada.

In those days, standard actors' contracts called for residuals for six airings. Just six. After that, they received not one penny.

Without Little House, Karen would have been Jan Maxwell without the singing voice and the rent stabilized apartment.

Incorrect, r116. The LHOTP cast did get residuals. I wrote in another thread about taking a private Hollywood tour with Alison Arngrim and she said they did receive residuals, but they aren't huge and they diminished over time.

She said the cast of "The Waltons," which started a year or two earlier, did not get them.

the public does not want to hear this 40 years later /

I stand corrected, R118. I'm glad their cast got a better deal than many other TV actors of the time.

Karen ended up standing by for Mary Tyler Moore and Lynn Redgrave in Sweet Sue on broadway. She went on for Mary and was excellent (I was there).

[quote] Sorry to go on and on at R94.

I’m not sorry you did. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Alison Arngrim wrote in her book that the cast does get residuals, but it's basically enough to pay the phone bill and that's it. They don't get a huge amount of money.

Today, actors on a show that ran as long as Little House did would be set for life.

Not one shitbra comment ...

[quote]Alison's Arngrim's Confessions of a Prairie Bitch is the best celebrity memoir bar none

In the book, which details how cold Melissa Sue Anderson was to the other girls, Alison mentions seeing Melissa Sue at Michael Landon's funeral, long after the show went off the air and the girls were adults. Melissa Sue was carrying her new baby, and Alison thought it was the chance to let bygones be bygones.

"Your baby is adorable!" she said. "How old is she?"

"Six months," Melissa Sue said flatly, and turned on her heel.

Melissa Gilbert had huge financial troubles and owed the IRS tons of money.

[quote]R74 actually took the time to cut and paste and respond to all of that. What a sad, pathetic person.

A sad, pathetic person? I'm sure "Mr. I seen" is much sadder and more pathetic. At least R74 knows basic grammar.

Team Karen Grassle. I always liked her.

[quote] Melissa Gilbert had huge financial troubles and owed the IRS tons of money.

Ryan Murphy should do a Feud between Melissa Gilbert and Valerie Harper.

Fun Factoid: Karen Grassle appeared in a production of “Butterflies are Free” with DL favorite Brandon de Wilde just before his untimely passing!

Ma Ingallsh.

Melissa sue even as a kid gave me cold vibes. She always looked haunted .

I wish the grammar queen would have their heads used as a battering ram by a blind girl, trying to break out of a burning building.

Say what you will about Missy Sue but the episode where Mary went blind is a classic and the best episode in the entire series.

It wasn't a blind girl who killed the baby, R133.

R134, her acting was stellar. Truly memorable.

I remember he died in Denver while doing a play, r130. I'd forgotten it was Butterflies at the Elitch Theatre.

She always acted like she was gritting her teeth. And he had a mocking way of relating to her. Now we know.

Both Melissa Gilbert and Alison had good autobiographies regarding their LHOTP years. Melissa Sue Anderson only “wrote” an episode guide that was poorly reviewed and received.

R139 Gilbert's wasn't that great. Better than Anderson's yes, but mostly a diary of her obsession with Rob Lowe when they were together.

Alison's was excellent

Alison on her brief return to the show:

[quote] “I also got to work with my “replacement,” Allison Balson, who played the psychotic Nancy. Now, let me set the record straight: we were not rivals in real life. I get complaints from die-hard Nellie fans all the time: “We hated the new Nellie!” “She’s not as good as you!” and my favorite, “You are the only true Nellie!” As if this was some sort of religious cult, and this little girl and I were fighting over the role of Messiah.”

Yes, Melissa Gilbert’s book was very focused on her relationship with Rob Lowe a d she was barely mentioned in a paragraph of his book.

Melissa was dickmatized by Rob. Then again, who wouldn't have been in the 80s?

Is she gay friendly?

I've never known her to do any pro LGBT or pro AIDS stuff in her 40+ years of stardom.

Anyone care to post pics of Landon walking around in pants without underwear? Was it that obvious? Too bad the hottest celebs of that time seem to be absolute douche bags. I would love to see VPL, regardless.

^ OMG there are tons online, just google "Michael Landon commando"

I want a reality show with Melissa Sue, Melissa G, Alison, and Karen Grassle - “The Real Housewives of the Prairie”

[quote] Alison Arngrim wrote in her book that the cast does get residuals, but it's basically enough to pay the phone bill and that's it. They don't get a huge amount of money.

I remember Kevin Hagan, the actor who played Doc Baker, did some tabloid interviews in the 90s or maybe early 2000s talking about how Landon had screwed him and other actors by keeping them as guest stars rather than series regulars. I don’t know how SAG rules work and I couldn’t find any articles but as I recall Hagan was having health issues and was struggling because (he claimed) his benefits weren’t what they would have been had he gotten better billing.

To be fair, Doc Baker appeared in maybe every fourth or fifth episode.

IMDB states Hagen appeared in 113 of 204 episodes.

[quote]I remember when Michael Landon was ill and died was was portrayed as if he was some kind of fucking saint.

I remember that too, R81. I never watched Little House or Highway to Heaven or anything else Landon was in and knew nothing about him so I didn’t think anything of the outpouring of grief when he died. It didn’t take long for the truth to come out.

Landon was no saint, and I find myself in Ma’s side after reading Grassle’s experience. But do have to give credit that by all accounts it was a safe space for the kid actors, especially considering all of the booze and coke that seemed to have been superfluous on the set.

Even if Hagen was only in half the series episodes he still did a lot more work than the Carrie actresses who got regular billing and must have made more than him. That had to sting. But it doesn’t seem fair to blame Landon. Wouldn’t that be a network decision? Maybe he felt Landon could have fought for the actors more? Wish I could find the actual interview. I think it was on Entertainment Tonight.

Did the Carrie twins have to split a paycheck?

No R154.

Just the falling down the hill.

Okay, I'm not familiar enough with all the episodes as some of you are...just the major plotlines and characters. So what was the deal with the Carrie character? I never really saw her outside the opening credits. Did she ever have any storylines? Why would the show cast someone they never used?

Mellisa Sue always looked like a snob to me. Remember the bitchy look she gave poor Nancy Kulp at that roller derby thing?

R63, Landon always looked incredibly healthy, but was a notorious smoker and drinker. He believed that this contributed to his pancreatic and liver cancer.

Ya THINK?

No sympathy at all for that asshole.

R156 I honestly don’t remember one Carrie story, or her even being featured heavily in an episode. I guess Landon felt it would be better to feature the entire family in the opening credits vs. many of the townsfolk who just got graphic credits.

The only Carrie episode I remember is when they had the imaginary friend (played by the other twin)

Even the made up adopted kids got a lot more to do.

Based on her demeanor, I imagine Carrie Ingalls later came out as nonbinary and agender.

Landon’s stepdaughter wrote a memoir published after his death and she had shared wonderful memories of her childhood. Her mother was devastated after their divorce, a surprise to everyone, but she remained close to him until the end. Both Landon wives looked like blonde hooker showgirls.

Michael Landon was the showrunner, r148 / r153. Watch the credits of a random episode, he was star, writer or many episodes, director of many episodes. It was his baby. He apparently had words with the producer, Ed Friendly, early on in the run and took over everything.

There was another Carrie focused episode...where she fell into the abandoned well.

Keeping Carrie in the cast was something nice Landon did. They were horrible actresses and today would have been quickly replaced. They even brought in Missy Francis in the later years and gave her what could have been Carrie's screen time.

“America’s Sweetheart”?! Melissa has an inflated sense of self! Mario Cantone’s delivery of this is priceless!

Michael Landon's public persona as a good hearted person was in direct contrast to his real character.

Here's the roller derby clip! How fucking 70s, lol.

My head almost exploded when I realized Mary X in Eraserhead was Miss Beadle, too.

Michael Landon must have had some serious damage in this childhood to be that much of an alcoholic and to be that much of a jerk to those he worked with and had authority over. I wonder what his damage was. He was attractive, successful, beloved. Why be an asshole?

Self loathing Jew.

Was he the only TV star to have three successful television shows (playing three different characters)?

[quote]So what was the deal with the Carrie character?

When they did a reaction shot with her, she always seemed retarded.

[quote] Was he the only TV star to have three successful television shows (playing three different characters)?

Quite possibly.

[quote] Was he the only TV star to have three successful television shows (playing three different characters)?

Lucille Ball had “I Love Lucy” “The Lucy Show” and “Here’s Lucy.”

I think the titles of those show would rule her out R173.

Why? Because of the first name?

She ostensibly played three different characters.

Lucy Ricardo

Lucy Carmichael

Lucy Carter

[quote] I think the titles of those show would rule her out [R173].

But she played different characters. And all three shows ran longer than Highway to Heaven.

I think we are really stretching the concept of "playing three different characters" for Lucy.

Hence me saying “ostensibly” above.

[quote]I wrote in another thread about taking a private Hollywood tour with Alison Arngrim

Was this through Dearly Departed Tours? If so, did you try on the Nellie wig she'd bring with her?

r179, it may have been. It was in 2013, and she was partnered with a tour company in Hollywood. I think I found out about it from her Twitter feed, not via a tour company.

r170, Julia Louis-Dreyfus had 3 successful shows, and a few clunkers. Seinfeld (9 seasons), The New Adventures of Old Christine (5 seasons) and Veep (7 seasons).

Wasn't Landon so jealous of cast members on Bonanza that were prettier than him that he made sure they were fired.

I like those barrel bodied men.

Damn he had a nice cock

But did they pick you, r104? I bet not.

You understood what the fuck that person was trying to say?!

You’re better than me that’s for sure.

BUMP for the latecomer to this topic

[quote]Alison's Arngrim's Confessions of a Prairie Bitch is the best celebrity memoir bar none

Loved it but I'll raise you "Foxy" by Pam Grier. Met them both and told them how good their books are.

If Landon was in charge and found Ma was so unattractive, why did he hire her to play his wife on the series? There must have been zero chemistry. So why did she get the gig?

I almost learned what this thread was about … until the second paragraph of purple, verbal masturbation stopped me.

[quote]If Landon was in charge and found Ma was so unattractive, why did he hire her to play his wife on the series? There must have been zero chemistry. So why did she get the gig?

You think that ego would hire a woman prettier than himself? But Grassle was very pretty especially not being able to wear any "make-up".

I remember watching the original LHP movie, before the series was commissioned. My recall of it was as much less corny than the series but I also remember thinking Ma looked fifty years older than Pa, who looked like Little Joe, not how Pa was described in the book. In fairness to Ma, we only had a black and white back then. She improved in colour.

Karen Grassle was gorgeous. Look at the real Caroline Ingalls, she's seated on the left. Not so hot!

I beg to differ R166

The Carrie thing was bizarre. They could have recast with a real actress once they started to grow up.

R189, she rejected his advances perhaps?

I do remember an interview with Michael’s son Christopher, who told His dad on his death bed he was gay . Landon looked at him and said very passionately “ you think I will love you any less than I do?!”

Michael seems like he was good to all the kids in the cast, but was a businessman first. If the Greenbushes really couldn't act, I don't know why he kept them around as dead weight.

[quote]R127: A sad, pathetic person? I'm sure "Mr. I seen" is much sadder and more pathetic. At least [R74] knows basic grammar.

R87 seems to be paraphrasing a line from 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐨𝐲𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐚𝐧𝐝 (1970), re: "sad, pathetic."

He was three sheets (urine soaked) to the wind most of the time...

We were the REAL stars of the show

They should have had a spin off. Big Bitches on Prairie.

R159...Carrie was a cute little girl prop. The opening credit of her falling, while running in the field...her best scene.

There's a rumour she struck her head on a rock shooting that scene and in the end it was cheaper to keep her than settle. Apparently she and Landon had been doing jello shots just prior.

The actress who played big sister Carrie was horrible. So was the Laura actress, to much chipmunk in her voice.

Nobody ever talks about how Laura went from having buck teeth to having perfectly straight teeth. Did Doc Baker one day take a hammer and knock them into shape?

It was Hester Sue.

r206, it was probably the rapey blacksmith.

I think you can see when Alison Argrim had braces in the early seasons. I'm not sure if they put white wax over them, but she clearly has a mouthful of something, and it's not what's in the blacksmith's pants.

Jesus, Michael didn't mind my bod the day he told me we were Method Actors and needed to get into our roles. He hitched up my prairie dress, tore off my bloomers and fucked me with just a thin strip of buffalo intestines between us. "This is how they did it in the 1860s" he said. I have to admit he was quite large, and I liked it. "You're ripping me" I said. He seemed to enjoy that.

The take away is that the actors who portrayed Ma and Pa Ingalls aren't/weren't really into all that bible stuff. L.H.O.T.P. was good, though.

When I was a kid, I used to think Albert was hot.

You didn’t have to be a kid, r211!

Thanks for the roller disco clips! Wow it brought back memories! I'm 58 and grew up during that period. I skated a lot and it was a cool thing for people to look good and move well on skates. These clips are great. Now, more than forty years later, people have no concept of the whole skating rink scene for some people back then. They think its cheezy and weird.

Albert was a smack addict! He sold his ass in Mankato for a hit!

Sad.