Eldergays, tell me about Betsy Palmer
I know she was a famous stage actress, but just how big was she?
I was watching a documentary on the making of Friday the 13th and they talked like she was "the big star" and one of the most trusted actresses in America. (I know Friday the 13th was a low budget movie, but they were talking like they got Donald Pleasance in Halloween type of big).
Is this true?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 5, 2021 4:20 PM
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Oh, she was definitely Donald Pleasance big, OP.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | November 3, 2021 4:49 PM
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R2 Seriously? I find that hard to believe.
Pleasance was in some great stuff and a very capable stage and film character actor. He was "a name."
by Anonymous | reply 3 | November 3, 2021 4:51 PM
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This says everything you need to know about Betsy Palmer...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 4 | November 3, 2021 4:52 PM
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r3/OP, sorry, I was mixing up Donald Pleasance with Don Pardo.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | November 3, 2021 4:55 PM
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She was big enough that critics thought it was disgraceful that she'd appear in a film like Friday the 13th and try to make a campaign for people to send her hate mail for it (they gave the wrong address but that's beside the point).
by Anonymous | reply 6 | November 3, 2021 4:58 PM
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[quote] I know she was a famous stage actress,
Uh no, she wasn’t. At all. Unless you consider game shows an important part of her resume. As a 60s teen, that’s primarily what I knew her from. Although she did have a great body.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | November 3, 2021 5:04 PM
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R8 I always thought she was more along the lines of Elaine Stritch, not Brett Somers.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | November 3, 2021 5:11 PM
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R8: She's not like either. More of a bubbly pleasant presence.
R7: Many short runs and replacements of initial stars of big shows. She did a great deal of summer stock and dinner theater.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | November 3, 2021 5:16 PM
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R10 here. The reference to R8 should be R9.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | November 3, 2021 5:17 PM
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She was Nellie friggin' Forbush, r8.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 12 | November 3, 2021 5:25 PM
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She was the poor man's Janis Paige.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | November 3, 2021 7:50 PM
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saw her in The Shadow Box tour in the 70's. She was incredible on stage.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | November 3, 2021 7:53 PM
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Didn't she take the Friday the 13th role because she was broke and needed a car?
by Anonymous | reply 16 | November 3, 2021 7:56 PM
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Performed Tennessee Williams on Broadway...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 17 | November 3, 2021 7:59 PM
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She got the Playbill cover...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 18 | November 3, 2021 8:02 PM
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Still, was she a household name in 1980? Was it a big reveal when she appeared at the end of Friday the 13th??
by Anonymous | reply 19 | November 3, 2021 8:21 PM
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If you do not know the name of Rula Lenska, it is impossible for you to know exactly how big Betsy Palmer was in 1980.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | November 3, 2021 8:27 PM
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Since she had been a panelist on a top-rated, weekly prime time game show in the ‘60s, when there were just three networks to watch, yes, OP/19, she would have been well known to most of America in 1980 .
by Anonymous | reply 21 | November 3, 2021 10:54 PM
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She and James Dean acted together in the television episode Death Is My Neighbor.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 22 | November 3, 2021 10:56 PM
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I remember her as a panelist on I've Got a Secret.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | November 3, 2021 10:57 PM
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She was doing Same Time, Next Year on Broadway when she got the offer to do Friday. And she only accepted it because her car crapped out leaving the theater one night and the salary from the movie paid enough for her to purchase a new car. She thought it was a piece of crap that no one would go and see. She was a correspondent for the Today Show pre Barbara Walters.
Interestingly enough, it came down to Estelle Parsons (another Today show correspondent pre Barbara Walters) and her for the role.
The director wanted Sally Field for Adrienne King's role.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | November 3, 2021 11:02 PM
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She wasn't very fresh...if you know what I mean
by Anonymous | reply 27 | November 3, 2021 11:03 PM
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I liked that they still let her be a panelist when she was pregnant. Bess would be svelte and glamorous in her gown and Betsy would be game in her maternity top.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | November 3, 2021 11:06 PM
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Betsy and James Dean dated. When asked if she knew he was gay, Betsy said "He wasn't gay with me."
by Anonymous | reply 29 | November 3, 2021 11:06 PM
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She had a delicious pussy.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | November 3, 2021 11:10 PM
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A friend's aunt was Betsy's secretary when she was married to Dr. Vincent Merendino. They lived in Englewood, New Jersey. The aunt said she was a lovely woman and easy to work with. Later Betsy lived on West 85th near Columbus Avenue. When she became ill, moved to Connecticut to be near her daughter. She died at a Danbury hospice in 2015, age 88.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | November 3, 2021 11:11 PM
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More of a personality than performer best known for her many appearances on TV game shows Never made it to the end of the cheap, dreadful Friday the 13th, but remember her from the 50s Joan Crawford classic Queen Bee some of which seems to have inspired the film Mommie Dearest. Donald Pleasance who was a regular presence and recognizable character actor in The Great Escape, You Only Live Twice, Escape from New York, Cul-de-sac, Eye of the Devil, Wake in Fright, The Eagle has Landed, Escape to Witch Mountain, The Last Tycoon...long before Halloween.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | November 3, 2021 11:47 PM
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1980s Friday the !3th was Palmer's first appearance in a theatrical film since 1959s The Last Angry Man.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | November 4, 2021 12:17 AM
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She was on a "Newhart" episode on Decades today, playing George's (Tom Poston) high school sweetheart (at a HS reunion). I guess it was another type of reunion, since both Tom and Betsy were veterans of the '50s/60s panel shows. Tom was mainly on "To Tell the Truth," and Betsy was a regular on "I've Got A Secret."
by Anonymous | reply 34 | November 4, 2021 12:21 AM
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Biography: Betsy Palmer was born Patricia Betsy Hrunek on November 1, 1926 in East Chicago, Indiana to Marie and Rudolph Vincent Hrunek. She attended the Goodman School of Drama at DePaul University. The beginnings of her acting career were in summer stock theatre. She married Vincent J. Merendino in 1954, with whom she had one daughter -- Melissa Merendino.
Film/TV Credits: Film credits include: "Bell Witch: The Movie," "Unveiled," "The Fear: Resurrection," "Goddess of Love," "Isabel's Choice," "Friday the 13th Part 2," "Friday the 13th," "Queen Bee," "The Long Gray Line," and "Mister Roberts." Television credits include: "Knots Landing," "The United States Steel Hour," "Studio One in Hollywood," "Goodyear Playhouse," and "The Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse."
by Anonymous | reply 35 | November 4, 2021 1:08 AM
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Her sister Rosy is the much more fun and interesting of the two.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | November 4, 2021 2:35 AM
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Carp and sneer all you want, girls--Betsy Palmer was big to ME. Being a panelist on "I've Got a Secret" conferred status and glamour.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | November 4, 2021 2:51 AM
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She oozed glamour, r38...
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 39 | November 4, 2021 2:54 AM
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Right you are, [R39]!!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | November 4, 2021 3:04 AM
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My dad also grew up in East Chicago and was friends with the Hrunek family. He and Betsy - then known as “Patty” - dated a few times when they were in high school. Decades later, my parents were living in Minneapolis and Betsy was in a national touring company in a play whose name I don’t remember. My dad sent a note to her through the production company when they performed there. Evidently Betsy did indeed remember him and was delighted to hear from him....even invited my folks to join her backstage after the performance, where they spent an hour or so catching up on mutual friends from their high school days. My mom said she couldn’t have been lovelier or more gracious.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | November 4, 2021 3:11 AM
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Thanks for the info!
IMDB and Wikipedia are nice, but you really don't get the feeling until you ask around.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | November 4, 2021 3:27 AM
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[quote]Her sister Rosy is the much more fun and interesting of the two.
I think you mean Rosy Palm her four daughters and one son.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | November 4, 2021 3:33 AM
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She doesn't have a Desert Island Disc episode, so she couldn't have been that famous lol
by Anonymous | reply 45 | November 4, 2021 4:24 AM
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I’ve been amazed of the durability of some of these threads about stats of yesteryear, but, alas, I doubt our Betsy has sufficient juice.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | November 4, 2021 4:29 AM
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R47 That's why I was asking on here lol
I wanted to know how big of a shock it was that she did it.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | November 4, 2021 4:39 AM
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OP a surprise perhaps, but not a shock.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | November 4, 2021 10:20 AM
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I liked her during her two year stint on Knots Landing, she was even a murder suspect on that nighttime soap!
Pam Grier played one of the detectives investigating her
by Anonymous | reply 50 | November 4, 2021 10:27 AM
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She was just an NYC stage and talk show actress, got it.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | November 4, 2021 3:24 PM
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shes lively when interviewed in that documentary on Joan: The Ultimate Movie Star. Betsy from 1.06.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | November 4, 2021 3:41 PM
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I had a huge crush on Betsy when I was kid watching her weekly on I've Got a Secret.
Years later (mid-1980s) I got to work with her in Philadelphia in a production of Strindberg's The Father (she played the Mother) and she was every bit as sweet, charming and professional as I could have hoped. And she was magnificent in the play, not an easy role by any stretch. At the end of the run she gave me a beautiful hand-painted apple which she called a Barrymore Apple, which I guess was some kind of theatrical tradition.
I just adored her. Lovely woman.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | November 4, 2021 3:54 PM
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She played Suz on As The World Turns on 1982.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | November 4, 2021 5:12 PM
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Bumping cause even though I commented and got some WWs the thread has not been saved for me.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | November 4, 2021 7:05 PM
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Was Friday the 13th her magnum opus?
by Anonymous | reply 58 | November 4, 2021 7:57 PM
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No, it was her lucky fluke. Too bad she didn't get paid more. I doubt she had a piece of the profit or gross.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | November 4, 2021 9:37 PM
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Getting her head chopped off with her arms still flailing away was the highlight of her career.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | November 4, 2021 9:46 PM
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From R53’s linked documentary, we know that Joan Crawford was, per Betsy, “ballin’” their big-dicked co-star, John Ireland.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | November 5, 2021 7:17 AM
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R19 I saw Friday the 13th first run in early June of 1980 after my 7th grade finals. My mother took me because she was awesome. I (13) had no idea who Betsy was (and I knew a lot of before-my-time pop culture) but my mother (48) did: “Oh that’s Betsy Palmer. She was on…hmm. I don’t know. But that’s Betsy Palmer.”
by Anonymous | reply 62 | November 5, 2021 7:32 AM
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She's in the '55 film Mister Roberts.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | November 5, 2021 7:41 AM
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R62 Do you think she did better than Shelly Winters and Estelle Parsons could do? I think so.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | November 5, 2021 3:45 PM
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Probably less hammy than Winters or Parsons.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | November 5, 2021 3:53 PM
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Palmer was so perfect as Mrs. Voorhees that I have a hard time imagining any other actress in the role.
Of course, if someone were doing a shot-for-shot remake like Gus Van Sant's Psycho, I'd get Meryl Streep to play Mrs. Voorhees just for shits and giggles.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | November 5, 2021 4:09 PM
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R66 Really? I would pick Molly Shannon or Laura Linney
by Anonymous | reply 67 | November 5, 2021 4:20 PM
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