Ellen Pompeo opens up about getting into a heated argument with Denzel Washington

Denzel can be quite the pompous ass, but she sounds EXHAUSTING.

She can't have the utmost respect for him as a director when she's trying to usurp his role as director.

I'm a novice actor but even I know that when you have an issue with someone in a scene you direct your concerns to the director -- not your co-star.

She could have expressed her concern to Washington who, if he agreed with it, would have turned to the other actor and said yes, let's try it that way.

Ellen didn't do that.

Fine. She doesn't have to. It is 'her' show.

If a man did this, he'd be called strong.

If a woman does it, she's a bitch.

So, Ellen's a woman. She's a bitch.

I'm sure she thinks this story makes her sound like a badass woman, but it actually makes her sound incredibly childish and unstable. She should have kept this to herself.

She's been getting eviscerated on social media all day over this.

And this clip of her on The View is making the rounds as well. From her snide "You can't say anything to me because I have a baby of color" remark to her saying that black awards shows should be abolished because they only create division. It makes her recent stunt of calling out the Golden Globes earlier this year seem more like a calculated career "woke" move to stay in Hollywood's good graces than something genuine.

In short, another phony bullshit artist exposed.

Both of them are assholes.

He has two Oscars and is regarded as a great actor. She's famous for being on a show that doesn't really need her to exist for decades. She can take several seats.

I’m glad that SOMEBODY put Denzel in his place. Of course a white person not kissing an African American’s ass is going to be attacked mercilessly. Good for her.

It has literally nothing to do with race. Only a racist sees this as some race war when it was all about two humans working together butting heads.

Who?

I'm no fan of her and Grey's needs to be put out of its misery but I'm glad she's exposing him for the dumb, arrogant prick that he is.

Girls, girls, you're both c u n t s!

Denzel directed an episode of Grey’s Anatomy?????

Ellen Pompeo?? Who the fuck cares?

Yeah, my sister is a real bitch.

[quote]She's famous for being on a show that doesn't really need her to exist for decades.

I'm surprised it's even on the air at this point. Who the fuck still watches? All the originals except for her are LONG gone, and even at its peak, it was never the critical or cultural juggernaut that ER was. It was always the poor mans imitator.

Between Isiah Washington, Katherine Heigl and this one, that set must have been toxic as fuck.

That is what I was thinking, r12! I had no idea. I wonder what his interest was in directing a hospital show. Was it because he started out in one?

I’m confused - so there was an actor that wasn’t Denzel that was underperforming opposite Pompeo?

I thought it was Denzel in the scene with her as an actor of the episode he was also directing.

Of course, when she quoted Denzel as saying ‘Don’t speak to him’, I thought he was referring to ‘any director’.

[quote] She can't have the utmost respect for him as a director when she's trying to usurp his role as director.

A secure, non-anal director lets his actors work scenes out between themselves a lot of the time. That is often just a part of the creative process. The best directors can draw out great performances but the actors need to feel the scene and the words and the "moment" with whom they are playing against A scene like described takes a lit of emotion and those types of scenes are best done with the director telling them what he's looking for and the actors taking it from there. It can be shot again or edited.

I suspect Denzell did not like an ACTRESS ie woman seeming to take charge. He's an insecure baby. His Oscar in acting has little to do with his directing.

I assumed this story came from the Grey's Anatomy book that's coming out, not from Pompeo's mouth. What's crazy to me is that she acts as if Washington was in the wrong. She took it upon herself to add dialogue that wasn't there, thus changing the tone of the scene. She should have called cut and discussed changing the scene with Washington beforehand.

Also crazy? Running to his wife and telling her. What was that going to accomplish?

Debbie Allen recruited Washington to direct the episode as a surprise for Pompeo. I'm sure Allen was so embarrassed about this.

She is the luckiest bitch ever. How this turd of a show is still around is beyond me, she is the most vanilla among the cast and flyovers love the show for some reason yet dont give a fuck about her, she gets really paid yet has no name recognition. Just kill this darned show already!

Dempsey is a prick and was intentionally fucking up the scene, so I can understand her getting pissed off.

R21 yes but she took it upon herself to act like the Director and tell him what to do, change dialogue etc. you don’t do that. Period.

Directors have acted out much worse than him for less.

Whatever one may think about her and how she reacted, I've always gotten major "high-and-mighty" vibes from Denzel. You can just sense it in all his interviews. He also has that "I'm a man of God" moral superiority/arrogance a lot of the time.

[quote]Dempsey is a prick and was intentionally fucking up the scene, so I can understand her getting pissed off.

The scene partner wasn't Dempsey. She was recalling the incident with him. And the actor made an acting choice, not intentionally fucking up the scene. Just because an actor does a take she doesn't agree with doesn't mean it was a wrong choice.

Yeah you guys are weird for attacking Denzel over this incident.

She sounds entitled and controlling and makes herself the victim. She didn’t like what the actor was doing, she didn’t like Denzel calling her out, so she ran to his wife.

And you guys say oh she’s a woman and she’s a boss and if it was a man it would be different. Men don’t run to their co-workers wives or husbands and play victim. Wtf?

Stars fighting and being assholes. Old news in Hollywood......

[quote] yes but she took it upon herself to act like the Director and tell him what to do, change dialogue etc. you don’t do that. Period.

What the nerve of that uppity woman. How dare she!!

Yes actors do do that. Period. Obviously not all the time but to suggest that actors aren't given some freedom by directors is just not true.

Two massive egos colliding.

She's looking incredibly jowly for only 51!

It's not very interesting. She is the highest paid woman on TV and that's hard to fathom? But so is the Sean Mendez.

Denzel is a better actor than DL wants to give him credit for. He's not a total asshole, but he's difficult. An old school creep with women. He's smoother than Mel Gibson.

I think that Ellen and Denzel have the same face. They look alike. I suspect he didn't like her jowls.

The meat done fell off his bones some time ago. Denzel needs some wind in the face reconstruction.

Well, she comes off as arrogant, basically saying that Denzel didn't know what he was doing, that he didn't know how to direct a TV show. Denzel had already directed two films and around the same time directed Fences, which led to Viola winning an Oscar. So he obviously knew how to direct.

[quote]Fine. She doesn't have to. It is 'her' show. If a man did this, he'd be called strong. If a woman does it, she's a bitch. So, Ellen's a woman. She's a bitch.

Okay let's take the she's a man/he's a woman thing out of this. If the director was a woman she probably would have had the same reaction.

You said it yourself, R2.

[quote]I'm a novice actor but even I know that when you have an issue with someone in a scene you direct your concerns to the director -- not your co-star.

You know that rule because it's the first thing actors learn. Probably when you see someone do it and they get called out on it then you know not to do it. She knows that rule. Denzel knows that rule. Even you as a novice actor knows that rule.

1. You never tell another actor how to act unless they ask.

2. If you have an issue with someone or something, you take it to the director.

3. If you're going to adlib, you ask unless you already know it will be fine. (On a set where that's normal and the director is okay with it.)

Man or woman you'd be looked down upon for doing any of those things.

To me it seems like Denzel was yelling at her (not because she improved) but because she was doing that weird thing where an actor is ad-libbing and they're both talking to the character and to the actor. She broke all three rules.

If the director wanted a different performance from that actor, then the director would have asked for it. Who knows? He might have after that take.

If she didn't like what the actor was doing she should have talked to Denzel about it. She could have found a way to "finesse" the performance out of the actor with the infamous, "Do you mind if we try something?" on the next take directed at both the actor and Denzel after giving Denzel the chance to direct the actor.

I generally love Ellen Pompeo and (ugh as if this matters much) Twitter often does as well but not in this case. There were ways for her to handle that situation that were better than the one she chose.

[Quote] Denzel directed an episode of Grey’s Anatomy?????

This was news to me as well 😄 Had no idea his wife was a fan of the show.

[Quote] Between Isiah Washington, Katherine Heigl and this one, that set must have been toxic as fuck.

It was toxic after they left. Between Eric, Chyler, Sara and Jesse. What a mess.

[quote] Two massive egos colliding.

Yet only one has a reason to have a massive ego

Why does it seem that everybody with the last name Pompeo is a pompous and self-important asshole?

Egomaniac vs. Egomaniac

Tv directing is NOT the same thing as movie directing. They are essentially hired hands if they are not the full time directors. Ellen wasn’t going to be intimidated by him on her terf just because he’s an overrated movie star.

I like her. She’s got spunk.

[quote]She took it upon herself to add dialogue that wasn't there, thus changing the tone of the scene. She should have called cut and discussed changing the scene with Washington beforehand.

The actor who decided to whisper and not look at her didn't consult with anyone, apparently. The person going on and on about how Ellen broke the rules of acting doesn't say anything about how Mr. Whispercoo apparently did, too.

What she said in response was directly about the changes that actor made, and if he could change it to whispering and avoiding eye contact, why couldn't she ad-lib about that whispering and lack of eye contact?

If it was the wrong thing to do, then the director needed to say so, that's his job. Instead, Denzel immediately made it all about him, decided Ellen was trying to usurp his authority, he started yelling, and everything went to hell.

She has a punchable face.

"I was like, ‘Listen, motherf–ker, this is my show! This is my set!"

This says it all. This woman is/was incredibly insecure and she's not only lashing out at a "guest on her set", she's proud to be lashing out! What a toxic weirdo. I'm glad that I've never watched 5 minutes of this show.

Does anyone else remember her episode of Punk'd?

ok karen

I can't believe there are people defending Ellen here...oh wait, yes I can.

This Karen shrieked:

"Listen, motherf–ker, this is my show! This is my set! Who are you telling? You barely even know where the bathroom is!"

and

"Denzel's a movie star, right? He doesn't know s*** about directing TV."

Wow, how big an asshole do you have to be when Denzel Washington appears sympathetic in comparison?! She told that story thinking it made her sound good?! And then talking to Washington’s wife on top of it?! Pompeo sounds truly awful.

r3, Exactly, I'm not sure why she thought this was a good story to tell. I'm actually embarrassed for her.

I just watched Ellen on Punk’d. I had no idea she was so ratchet but then again I’ve never seen Greys anatomy or her in anything before.

Denzel is a horses arse but I don't see any point in her bringing it up.

I took the "bathroom" comment to be the way she was describing how it went down, not a direct quote, but maybe it was.

I'm certain Denzel has screamed something similar to others. I doubt he went running to their spouses about it, though. That's weird.

He’s a homophobic asshole.

Yech, don’t like her. Look at her eyes in OP‘s pic. She’s just spoiling for a fight, any fight.

Katherine Heigl was the difficult one? She seems like a day at the beach in comparison. 🌴

Kathrine had a promising movie career when she was on Grey’s. I wonder if Ellen was jealous.

Every time I see a promo for this show I have to say to myself: "Is this shit show still on the air?"

Katherine destroyed her career. I heard she was a nightmare on Greys

Katherine Heigl is very pretty. Pompeo looks like the dog’s dinner. They both sound like assholes.

I wonder if Pompeo has some… thing about black men. Isn’t she married to a black man? It just seems like an issue for her, but I can’t put my finger on what it is.

Ugh it has NOTHING to do with race. Why must everything be a race thing?

She is the title character so she gets away with a lot more than Heigl did.

I don't think she was ever nominated for an Emmy unlike Heigl who won one and then complained about the writing the next year which infuriated Shondaland.

She’s the lead, Heigl was supporting.

They aren’t on the same level as assholes. Heigl has offended everyone at some point. She can’t hold a job. She almost never gets hired.

R54 half of the cast was a nightmare.

She’s getting a lot of hate

D. Washington has anger issues. I'm glad Ellen put him in his place, although he could have assaulted her.

Heigl had a huge hit with Firefly. She has a lovely family and is still beautiful.

She also helps protect animals.

Success is the best revenge. Not that she is vengeful

Firefly was canceled after one season.

All those years on Gray’s Anatomy and all she has is a Golden Globe…nomination (a whole…one). Of course she’s going to try and pick a fight with a 2-time Oscar winner.

I don’t get something. So Patrick Dempsey was such as asshole he was written off the show, but she has him as a guest on her podcast?

(Why does she have a podcast? Does she have fans I don’t know about?)

Did they bury the hatchet?

[quote]The actor who decided to whisper and not look at her didn't consult with anyone, apparently.

Oh, 38.

He didn't have to. He made a choice. Acting is all about choices. You aren't necessarily told how you should play a scene. It's up to the actor to decide that with the director. Sometimes you don't get a lot of direction and you play it how you think it should be played. You make "choices." I'm putting choices in quotes because "choice" is thrown around a lot when talking about acting.

[quote]The person going on and on about how Ellen broke the rules of acting doesn't say anything about how Mr. Whispercoo apparently did, too.

He didn't, dear. Even Ellen acknowledges that the actor made a "choice." The problem is she didn't like the actor's choice. However, he did NOT change his lines.

Also, me writing (up to that point) a single post isn't going "on and on." You sound ridiculous. Ellen is that you?

[quote]What she said in response was directly about the changes that actor made, and if he could change it to whispering and avoiding eye contact, why couldn't she ad-lib about that whispering and lack of eye contact?

Because it's not her job? Because that wasn't in the script? Because it disrespected her fellow actor? Because she should have talked to the director about it?

[quote]If it was the wrong thing to do, then the director needed to say so, that's his job.

She already knew it was the wrong thing to do. She was just used to getting away with doing it. It's not some new thing that you don't do that, which was the whole fucking point.

[quote]Instead, Denzel immediately made it all about him, decided Ellen was trying to usurp his authority, he started yelling, and everything went to hell.

Because she did usurp his authority? They're both, not the best people, BUT had she done the scene, then talked to him then NONE of this would have happened. Also, as we know now, he was doing the show as a favor to Debbie Allen.

Firefly broke Netflix records.

Firefly Lane was renewed for season 2. It ended on a cliffhanger.

What the hell is with these black tweeters/bloggers referencing Pompeo being “yt” and “speaking on black issues.” This wasn’t a black, white, or polka dotted issue. Putting aside the freewheeling racist shit as to her being “yt”, this whole kerfuffle was between two human beings with differing points of view, none of which had to do (outrightly) with gender, race, etc. A black man and a white woman can have an angry altercation over differing professional views! Stop bringing race into EVERYTHING!!!!! A black person can be criticied jut as any other person can be.

I think Denzel is one of those secret Republicans

Does anybody remember when she brought up the fact that Faye Runaway was so poorly paid in her heyday that now she is driving a Prius? 🚗

[quote]Stop bringing race into EVERYTHING!!!!! A black person can be criticied jut as any other person can be.

You can thank Ellen for that. She was the one who started the beef over the Golden Globes not having adequate diverse representation. And she's been lecturing the white community on racism for the last year.

So, yeah, race is going to be brought into it when you position yourself as some leader on race issues.

R72 ummmm but those things have NOTHING to do with this. Learn how to separate one thing from another.

ummmm but those things have NOTHING to do with this. Learn how to separate one thing from another.

Uh, yeah they do.

When you position yourself as an racial issues activist and as someone who takes it upon themselves to lecture others on how they should behave, then you're going to be held under the same scrutiny.

What's up with these Ellen bitches being nasty cunts?

Ellen thinks a lot of herself. She is no Renee Zelweger

I can't stand either of them. But, since he's the one who is a homophobic pig, I'll go Team Ellen.

She should have known better than to go after Denzel.

He is an Oscar-winning actor (twice), a director, and a much-admired actor ESPECIALLY in the Black community.

Did she think Black women were going to high-five her? Hell, no. Black women LOVE Denzel.

She touched a nerve and she's getting the heat.

R78 again, it has nothing to do with race. Nothing. And he is a respected actor by many people. Not just black people. Jesus.

And yet she's being eviscerated by Black Twitter r79.

R80 because that’s all you choose to see. I’ve seen people of all colors commenting on it.

And even if that were true that doesn’t mean anything. Not everyone vocalizes everything on fucking Twitter dingbat.

Nice to see Ellen's fan club is hard at work r80.

R74: “When you position yourself as an racial issues activist and as someone who takes it upon themselves to lecture others on how they should behave, then you're going to be held under the same scrutiny.”

One of these is not like the other on anything to do with this professional disagreement on how a scene is being acted. Pompeo having “positioned herself as a racial issues activist” has ZERO to do with their argument. Zero. The part of your argument that she was “lecturing others on how to behave” IS on point with this conflict on the set about a scene. Why bring up the color of either the director or the actor who are arguing a professional matter?!

Boggles my mind how readily race is brought into what seems like any encounter nowadays. Stop watering down what is racism.

R83 this argument had zero to do with race. I don’t get how that weirdo thinks.

I don't know much about her, but he always seemed like a humorless ass.

[quote]I don't know much about her,

She's a stuck up cunt whose "success" has gone to her head.

Im sure the internet will make this all about race just because she's a white woman and he's a black man. People have got to move beyond that shit, they are colleagues working together and you will not always agree with what your coworker has to say. And I say this as a POC myself.

When pompous ass meets insufferable nozzle...

Ellen Pompeo is an uppity piece of shit.

I can’t bear to read the next 50 posts to see if it ever comes to this:

1. Grey’s has been on for 18 seasons, about 13 when this happened. No “director” walks on the set of a long running series and “owns” the set for the week. This is not theatre; the director is not King here, not when there’s a revolving door for 15 years, week in and week out. The tv director has to form alliances with the long-standing cast and crew, as they’re the ones ushering them through the process - they’re also the ones that have been there for 15 years and are going to be there the next week. Long-running tv shows do not suffer the whims of one-off directors.

2. Ellen Pompeo is the star of this show and even then was the highest paid woman in television.

3. Directors are NOT acting coaches. It’s a total myth that film directors are some sort of genius acting coaches, coaxing delicate performances out of the otherwise clueless actors. Most directors know fuck all about acting. Occasionally a director with theatre experience like Daldry, Boyle or Mendes might be useful in this area (though not as much as you’d think) but it’s really the director’s job to communicate what they want - not how to do it.

I’ve never gotten the Denzel Washington thing but then 99% of the films he makes have no appeal to me. He was good in Fences, probably deserved the Oscar for that, but it was a good thing that character was so charmless because I don’t find him to be charismatic at all. He’s school of acting always seems like a lot of grandstanding; acting with a capital A.

That he would behave that way on a tv show for one week says a lot about how egotistical and insecure he is.

Team Neither.

hummm, R90

• Debbie Allen asked Denzel to direct to make Ellen Pompeo happy. Whether you "get the Denzel Washington thing" or not, he is an acclaimed director at this point. He's not just some guy that walks through a "revolving door" of directors.

• Star of a show supported by a crew, a team of writers, and hundreds of other people who couldn't light, write or direct the show by herself. She's there by Betsy Beers' and Shonda's good graces. She can't write, direct and star in an episode by herself. She is where she is because of them.

• So now you're saying Denzel, after 59 movies, 9 academy award nominations, 2 wins, etc. doesn't know anything about acting? You can chug a can of wtf are you even talking about right here. He ain't most people.

You tipped your hat when you said you've "never gotten the Denzel Washington thing." You don't even like him. He is egotistical but so is she.

At least he earned his right to have an ego, being a huge star and one of the biggest black actors ever.

Why are some "people" so invested in defending this gross homophobe? Go back to LSA!

[quote] He didn't, dear. Even Ellen acknowledges that the actor made a "choice."

Sarcastically. And I never said he changed his lines, you're just pretending I did as part of your condescending essay-writing hobby.

[quote]Also, me writing (up to that point) a single post isn't going "on and on."

Yes it was one single post, but your single post was several hundred words.

The only way I could have known you weren't the other person who talked about how she was "breaking the rules of acting" is by doing the ignore-dar thing, and I didn't care enough about you to go to that kind of trouble.

R94 Denzel has fans all over so just stop with the LSA bullshit.

Seems the toxicity on the Grey’s set derived from Ellen herself.

You never - ever - give another actor notes. That’s what got Jeremy Northam a punch in the face from Michael Sheen.

She’s being canceled. She’s known for her Karen-ish white privilege. She’s cut off Viola Davis before dismissing Viola’s discussion of racism, and now she’s going after the most famous and awarded black actor alive and is proud of calling him a motherfucker on set?

She’s a fucking idiot.

It has EVERYTHING to do with race R79. She’s a privileged white bitch screaming at a black man. Being married to a black man and having half black children does not magically remove her whiteness. She will ALWAYS be perceived in public as a WHITE PERSON, which inherently confers upon her status and power that a black person will NEVER EVER HAVE.

You racists are really fucking exhausting.

Actors adlib all the time. If you knew anything about acting, you'd know this.

This has nothing to do with race. If you are bringing up race in this issue, you're an asshole

Sheen punched Northam because he'd insulted Kate Beckinsale, r97.

[quote]Is it true that he punched Jeremy Northam on the set of The Golden Bowl when the actor insulted Beckinsale? He nods, half cocky, half sheepish. "Sadly it is true." Did he hit him hard? "Sadly I did, yeah. It was because I thought he was being disrespectful to someone I loved." Was that punch a one-off ? "I think he may be the only actor I've ever hit." Who did he hit last? "I think it may have been a photographer in Los Angeles. A while ago. It's not a regular thing, it's just when people I really care about are under threat. That's one of the good things about growing up with the threat of latent violence around you, I guess."

I'm always amazed that when a White person is CLEARLY in the wrong in clashing with a Black person, other White people are quick to say "well both people were wrong."

No, just her.

You may not like Denzel, and that's fine, but any fool knows that the Director is in charge. You sound really stupid making excuses for her.

This entitled cunt would not have formulated her lips to address a White male director this way. That old boys network in Hollywood woulda circled the wagons and that bitch woulda been "black- balled" so quick that it would make your head-spin. FUCK HER!

What is “yt”?…

[Quote]What is “yt”?…

YouTube, Rose.

Ellen Pompeo is a thespian - how dare someone whisper the delivery of such important lines to her!

yt = white

Karens are gonna Karen. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Ellen outed herself as an unprofessional privileged racist bitch.

Why are y'all defending her? Everyone knows she's full of shit! I've never understood why White people take it upon themselves to tell Black people what is or isn't racist. Do you people think that actually works or do you just do that to make yourselves feel better?😂😂😂

R101 Sheen punched Northam because Northam gave Beckinsale notes.

[quote] You may not like Denzel, and that's fine, but any fool knows that the Director is in charge. You sound really stupid making excuses for her. This entitled cunt would not have formulated her lips to address a White male director this way. That old boys network in Hollywood woulda circled the wagons and that bitch woulda been "black- balled" so quick that it would make your head-spin. FUCK HER!

Imagine that the actress in question was Mo’Nique and the guest director Tom Hanks.

Imagine the DL response to then. Not many “eVeRyOnE aD-LiBs”, I’d wager.

What is Grey's Autonomy and why are they calling me?

R109 EXACTLY!

You Don't Adlib in a scripted series! Even the director doesn't have sole authority to change the lines. You don't tell other actors how to act. You don't cuss out your boss! You don't go running to your boss' spouse to continue "Karening."

Every actor knows this.

If Monique did ANY of this to a White male director not only would she be black-balled but she'd be fired on the spot (series lead or not).

Ellen is the new Sharon Osborne. Crossing a celeb popular with black Twitter is a big NoNo!!! Cancel the fucking bitchcunt!

I enjoy seeing SjW virtue signalers get eaten alive by the people they think they stand with.

If I were Ellen Pompeo on the set of Grey's Anatomy, I would've told Denzel - or any director who behaved like that - to go fuck himself and sat in my trailer for a week.

Power is something you exercise, not something you tell people you have.

I just can't believe that tired show is still on the air. Seriously, who watches the same plot for decades?

Why does anyone really care what "Black Twitter" or "Gay Twitter" or "Trans Twitter" or whatever group on social media has to say like it's a respected consensus? It's hardly ever a rational, well-informed point of view. It's nothing more than tribalism.

This site really hates Denzel lmao.

R117 Gay White men are among the most racist.

I take no sides in this other than to say that shooting down displays of ego or negating assertions of authority based on one's inflated sense of self-worth -- especially if in a David-and-Goliath setting -- are always fun to see or read about.

Denzel is a blowhard dickheard, who can't even be bothered to learn the names of his white actors, especially when they're his co-stars.

[quote] This site really hates Denzel lmao.

This site really hates Ellen lmao

R118 I can understand it on one hand because he showed signs of being homophobic in the past, but the hate still seems OTT. It’s also possible he’s changed his views since then. One of his daughters is a stud lesbian and he seems supportive of her.

[quote] If I were Ellen Pompeo on the set of Grey's Anatomy, I would've told Denzel - or any director who behaved like that - to go fuck himself and sat in my trailer for a week.

That’s because you’re a racist egomaniac.

Ellen would have totally said the same thing to a white director.

She was territorial about her turf and her top-dog status on set.

Does Ellen's pussy stink?

There is more comments attacking Pompeo in this thread than Denzel. The first 60 or so comments were on denzels side. The comments attacking Denzel stand out more because he is literally worshiped on every other site.

Ellen and Denzel are both assholes of the highest order.

[quote]this is my show!

I beg to differ.

Ellen Page was in her mid-30s when she landed Grey’s. Denzel Washington is a multi-award-winning 40 year veteran of film, theatre and television and is one of the most critically acclaimed performers of his generation.

Grey’s is Ellen’s little fiefdom and she has minimal experience - and at this point distant memories - of how to behave on a a set other than this one. And this one is one of the most toxic in recent television history and that she emerged as financial victor after picking off costars of all stripes.

On every set the director is in his rights to take control when actors give notes to costars; especially on a TV production in which pages are turned out according to schedule.

Simply put, Ellen is cosseted. That she when whining to Denzel’s WIFE is incredibly inappropriate.

[quote]Ellen Page was in her mid-30s when she landed Grey’s.

"Oh, dear" or "Oh, my"?

R108, every article out there says Northam was shouting at her, not just giving her notes.

There’s a 16-page thread on LSA about this, but this exchange between posters made me LOL:

“I thought she became a man. I’m getting my whites mixed up”

“You’re thinking of Elliot Page lmao”

[quote] If Monique did ANY of this to a White male director not only would she be black-balled but she'd be fired on the spot (series lead or not).

You don’t know this would happen. Don’t post it as fact.

[Quote]Ellen would have totally said the same thing to a white director.

She was territorial about her turf and her top-dog status on set.

R124, I'm pretty sure Ellen wouldn't have told a White Male director he's a motherfucker and that it's her set and show. She'd have been fired because challenging some mediocre insecure White man would have freaked him out. Denzel probably laughed at this stupid cunt!

Last time I checked this was Shonda Rhime's show and set. I'd be curious about what conversation Shonda had with her about this.

To walk onto a set to direct a top rated show (that you have no affiliation with) is a big fucking deal. That decision crosses a lot of desks at the production and at the network. That is not a gig for Joe Schmo. Denzel is well qualified to direct a TV show. I'm sure he had everyone's support. She is the one that looks stupid and unprofessional here.

As an old Black man in Hollywood, I am sure Denzel has come across hundreds of ignorant racist White whores screaming for attention in his career. This was no big deal to him. I'm sure he saw it for what it was and continued doing his job much to her dismay. She's so pissed that this Black man told her what to do that she is still screaming about it 5 years later! 😂

Denzel got paid and did what he wanted to do. He was not fazed by this.

Only jealous racists (of whom Ellen is one) is upset about this! 😜

R125 YES! Yes it does.

Denzel is a misogynist. He never would have talked to a man that way.

I think they’re both assholes tbh. Washington probably trotted in there like he was the king of Hollywood lording it over everyone. Pompeo should’ve been more tactful in dealing with him. There’s probably more to the story. His prick ways probably cost him to the Oscar to Affleck which was a tight race. I know very little about GA other than the multiple controversies that have dogged that set for years. I wonder how long ABC intends to have it on the air when no one gives a shit about it anymore.

Is this DL or LSA?

This bitch is always talking about “diversity” and bragging about how much she loves black people and has a black husband,etc. white savior complex to the extreme. I’m enjoying the racial takedown. These folks always eat their own.

R133 Monique was black-balled by Black directors by failing to do free press for a movie she was in. I'm pretty sure if she cussed someone out White directors would have fired and black- balled her.

Pay attention. LOL

This site hates….

People named Ellen R141?

LMAO

I don’t know which is dumber. Her speaking to her director in that manner, or her choosing to make this incident public.

R144 The doubling down 5 years later is worse because now the whole world knows what an unprofessional asshole she is for doing both!

Terri Gross interviewed Denzel on Fresh Air several years ago and boy, was he a dick! I don't think he even knew who she was.

I like Denzel but it seems like people give him a pass for being a bit of an asshole (not referring to this incident) because he’s a great actor.

R150 😂😂😂

Some black queen on here never passes up a chance to hate white people.

It's tiresome.

A guest director on a TV show is basically a substitute teacher. It's nothing like a film director.

I hope Ellen and Denzel can find their way back to one another and put this horrible misunderstanding behind them.

Ugly overpaid bitch. Never been a Grey's watcher. I heard a podcast a couple years back that featured her as the guest and she was so smug and iinsufferable I've made it a point to never watch that show.

Nigger

I tuned out of Grey's anatomy after season 2. Not really sure why it's been on for 18 seasons. Jesus. s

[quote] You Don't Adlib in a scripted series! Even the director doesn't have sole authority to change the lines. You don't tell other actors how to act. You don't cuss out your boss! You don't go running to your boss' spouse to continue "Karening."

They do adlib. You may not like it, but they do

You're a liar who doesn't know a thing about acting

And here's some more shit that R111 is either LYING about or too stupid to know

Here's some more stuff R111. You should be printing this post out and sending it to all these actors

they obviously don't know that NOBODY ADLIBS IN A SCRIPTED SERIES

And here's the best line that's ever been ad libbed R111, because it applies to you and all the rest of the jackasses who don't know a fucking thing about acting

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

Denzel ad libbed "I wish you had more time"

Only men can ad lib on Denzel’s set. Bitches need to know their place.

I can't believe Grey's Anatomy is still on. Is she still an intern on the show or is it set in a retirement community now?

If you want to see the episode, it's on Netflix. Season 12, Episode 9. A patient goes nutty and attacks and severely injures Pompeo's Dr. Grey. You can see the scene at the 36 minute mark, where the patient returns with his family to apologize to Grey, who can't speak because of her injured jaw.

The actor probably made his choice to look down as a way of conveying shame. In the take they used, he stares her right in the eye when he apologizes, so Ellen did get the performance she wanted. There are so many ways this could have been managed, but glorifying her choosing the worst way to handle it only makes her look bad.

I'm sure she's proudly told this "I'm in charge and I ain't afraid!" story many times in private and that's why it rolled off of her tongue so easily. She never realized people rolled their eyes to themselves when she told it.

r165, you know I clicked on Nexflix and was about to go searching for this episode and then I thought... I don't give a shit.

She’s in unprofessional white lady.

𝑴𝑺𝑵𝑩𝑪 𝒏𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓 𝒎𝒊𝒔𝒔𝒆𝒔 𝒂 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒓𝒂𝒄𝒆𝒃𝒂𝒊𝒕

R158 you are a fucking twit! You obviously don't read the articles you post. If you did then you would know that one of the first things this article says is: "improvisation is not always encouraged on set." Obviously this was a set where adlib was NOT encouraged. And guess who sets the tone? The person in charge --- that's right, the mother fucking director! Ellen was out of order.

Furthermore, television and movies are not like stage acting. They have everything timed and planned to the second. You cannot just go adding shit without permission. Stop being a dumbass. Everyone of the examples you gave are people who got permission to add that shit! Ellen needs to do her fucking job and let other people do theirs!

R165, I saw that episode and the actor actually does a combination of looking down and looking at her in that scene. I'm pretty sure that was NOT what she wanted.

She felt the scene should be about her since the apology was to her. But it really was about him. The occasional looks down were (as you stated) intended to be his shame. The focus was on him here as it should be. Her job was to listen and be a supporting player. Sometimes that is hard for a lead actor to do.

I do see how she would be frustrated with his choice since it requires A LOT more nonverbal "acting" from her since she cannot speak in the scene. However, it was not up to her to try and direct him. That was not her job. Denzel was right to set her straight. For her to then to blow up after being corrected was even more inappropriate of her and just makes her look like a total Bitch.

She should NEVER tell this story again publicly. It does not flatter her at all.

By the way, I think the actor was VERY effective in this scene and his choice worked well.

R4 did not know her mom died when she was four.

that explains a lot.

you lose a parent that young you spend your whole life trying to make up for that.

So who was the other actor?

R156 is also R61 and R94, in case anyone is interested.

R173

Nobody know, R172, because he was looking at the floor in all his scenes. Terrible choice.

It was Dohn Norwood R172

Weird that r156 does the same thing with replying with only R-numbers at R174 that Gap Playlist does, but okay.

How to ruin your career - Ellen sounds completely unhinged and entitled. Why the fuck is SHE yelling? It's not her show - I'm sure Shonda Rhimes may want to have a discussion with her about that.

Respect the director and your co-stars.

Ain't nobody calling for Ellen Pompeo to do anything else than what she's been doing in her sleep on this TV show that should have been cancelled 10 years ago.

#1 Apple podcast in the US and several countries around the world

Denzel is a dick, a misogynist and a famous womanizer. He insists on being worshipped or he's going to be difficult. He walks into every situation with a chip on his shoulder. Huge asshole. He and Julia Roberts are very close though....they understand each other. And once a bit more....

He's a near great actor and deserves respect. But he doesn't have to be such a pig about it.

Ellen Pompeo really fucked up. I'm sure she was showing off her flex and being semi sarcastic - but what a terrible move she made repeating this story with full inflections. It's not the most heinous thing that's ever happened. Shit goes down like this everyday on TV shows and film sets. But you don't gleefully tell the story on a fucking podcast. Denzel is beloved and respected. And powerful. She's a ninny.

Apparently Ellen had Jerrika Hinton (Stephanie) fired because she didn't like that Jerrika would take pictures without asking first. Wouldn't you ask her politely to ask first, like a professional?

I notice that Camilla Luddington (Jo) and Ellen do not share any scenes anymore. I wonder if they had a falling out.

I think Ellen has congenital Dumbfuckitis.

That combined with an inflated sense of her own talent is not a good combination for someone who thinks her opinion is the be-all and end-all.

Can we take a moment from talking about dumbass Ellen Pompeo and honor the beauty of:

Giacomo Gianniotti?

If you don't know who that is, google him and enjoy!

You're welcome!

Pompeo never needs to work again after Greys. Assuming she doesn't have Johnny Depp's spending habits, she, and her children, and her grandchildren, are set for life.

R2 Ellen's a bitch period. And she not anyone else made that clear by the way she related this trivial incident. Never watched a single episode of the show. TV: a time killer on the way to the grave!

I have never read such nonsense. Bunch of wussies. These are supposed to be professionals. Professionals can stand up to others - even to non-acclaimed TV episode guest directors - and make their feelings known. The director can vent back at her if he chooses. People with passion about their roles and work are what a director wants. That is part of the creative process. Even Tarantino will allow an ad lib or improv moment - or at last allow his actors to try it - and a TV show script is not a Tarantino script. It's not some mortal sin to try it. Especially not by an actor who owns her role.

You can fight and disagree and still be fine afterward. That's what professionals in the industry are capable of doing. Ellen seems to be comfortable in dealing with black men and not feeling compelled to treat them differently because of their skin color. Good for her. Her refusal to be deferential is a plus - it is actually anti-racist and not racist as some mindless idiots want to proclaim. Submission is not what it is about. But I get that those who don't really understand it may think that. They are wrong.

It's interesting that she lost her mother at a young age. Females are taught and learn from example to exert themselves and fight differently than boys do. Before I saw that I was going to say that Ellen fights like a man - directly and unafraid - and not using typical female fight techniques (manipulation etc). Some men are surprised by it and really like that in a woman but other men cannot handle that kind of typical male behavior in a woman when they see it or, worse, are on the receiving end of it.

This has nothing to do with racism and anyone who thinks that is cemented in an outdated and divisive mentality. The media that is playing up that faulty thinking is just shamelessly stoking the flames of fake racism to get themselves points from the peanut gallery. Shame on them. If they weren't so blind or craven they would dissect it for what it more likely is - a sex based power play. It actually seems like it should have been a funny anecdote between 2 people. And mature people in the industry should have been able to laugh at the incident, shake hands and be fine with it. Both sides.

Personally I see it as typical turf warfare - an actor on a TV show for 98 years taking charge in a moment of acting where she felt the opposing actor wasn't giving her what she needed to fulfill that scene. The best scene would have been for her character to yell at the creep who attacked her by asserting herself as a victim. I actually liked her choice.

R186, are you implying that after the incident, Ellen and Denzel were spotted canoodling at Langer’s Deli?

[quote] The media that is playing up that faulty thinking is just shamelessly stoking the flames of fake racism to get themselves points from the peanut gallery.

Yes. Actors and directors frequently clash. This was mild. But she 𝒎𝒖𝒔𝒕 be cancelled as racist.

They're both exhausting cunts.

[quote] I saw that episode and the actor actually does a combination of looking down and looking at her in that scene. I'm pretty sure that was NOT what she wanted.

That you were 100% correct about. R165 doesn't know what the hell they're talking about

[quote] She felt the scene should be about her since the apology was to her. But it really was about him. The occasional looks down were (as you stated) intended to be his shame. The focus was on him here as it should be.

That scene was terrible. The character broke her jaw for the hell of it (that was a stupid plot line) and her character was just supposed to take it? And not have anything to say? Then take some lame ass apology? His character wasn't ashamed. He didn't want to get arrested. He brought his kids with him so she would feel bad for him

What really bugs me is that his character gave her some shitty plant, that looked like a bunch of tiny weeds, that they found in a garbage can. It actually looked like someone tore the plant out and he was giving her cheap bucket it came in. It looked like it cost $3.99

Denzel should be ashamed of that scene. It wasn't keeping with her character. The super cheap props. That was a shitty episode

But at least you watched the episode. These idiots on here didn't watch the episode, don't even watch the show and don't know a damned thing about acting

[quote] You obviously don't read the articles you post. If you did then you would know that one of the first things this article says is: "improvisation is not always encouraged on set." Obviously this was a set where adlib was NOT encouraged. And guess who sets the tone? The person in charge --- that's right, the mother fucking director! Ellen was out of order.

No R169, obviously you don't know that set. They do ad lib on that set.

She knows how that set works. She's been there 15 seasons. But of course, you think you know more than she does. She only works there. And you didn't even watch the episode

And that episode sucked. And that's why it didn't get much press at the time. There was lots of press saying he was going to direct, but none saying saying he did a great job. Because he didn't . You may not like that, but that's how it was

R190 why did you find it necessary to write a dissertation when you obviously wanted to diss R165 who wrote an excellent post, and then throw in the stupid sentence calling others idiots “who don’t know a thing about acting”?

You’re a pretentious ass.

[quote] Apparently Ellen had Jerrika Hinton (Stephanie) fired because she didn't like that Jerrika would take pictures without asking first. Wouldn't you ask her politely to ask first, like a professional?

Supposedly Jerrika was taking pictures of Ellen's kids or pictures that had Ellen's kids in them (maybe in the background)

I liked her character and it was strange how they wrote her out. Her character had a progressing storyline and they wrote her out

I should have very specific and said "the actor looks down at some points during the apology, but stares Dr. Grey directly in the eye when he says "I'm sorry", as well as most of the rest of his monologue." He initially looks down in shame, also to collect his thoughts, but says most all of his monologue looking into her eyes.

Regarding Pompeo's "getting her way," I'll clarify that I have no doubt that Denzel respected the male actor and his choices and did not simply acquiesce to Pompeo. I think the scene we see is some compromise that allowed the actor to utilize his choices in a different way, while throwing a bone to Pompeo.

Not having seen the outtake, we can't really know what changes were made.

Does anyone know if Ellen gave this note in character during the scene as an ad lib or was she yelling at the actor as Ellen and then yelled at Denzel for not knowing where the fucking bathroom was.

[Quote]She knows how that set works.

EXACTLY!

R191 you are making my point. If this is Ellen's show and she "knows that set" why is she behaving like an asshole on it?

Acting 101 is that the director is in charge on ANY set and not some 2 bit actor. The director sets the tone of what that set will be like for whatever days that director is there. So you're right. Ellen did know what was required of her. I'm sure Denzel explained his expectations as any good director would. That Bitch didn't wanna accept that a new Sheriff was in town. Her behavior was at best unprofessional and at worst, BOTH racist and unprofessional.

I saw the episode and thought it was about the same as any other. The problem is it is a shitty show and Ellen knows it. And that's not Denzel's fault. He didn't write the episode nor did he cast these motherfuckers. All that shit was already in place.

Since Ellen's been there for 15 years and doesn't like the way the show is being run, maybe she ought to complain to the creator, or the writers or whoever does the casting instead of waiting til the guest director is there trying to direct this garbage to start showing her ass!

it's Acting 101; any extra who's been on two sets can tell you that the director is in charge and if actors have questions they direct them to the director

many stars are made producers so they have more freedom to speak up, but they still direct concerns to the director; they don't start barking orders themselves.

it'd be amazing if every guest star, director and extra started coming forward on twitter talking about how they lived in fear of that woman and all the rules they saw broken

I wish I had FU money like Pompeo. What I could get away with.

R199 AMEN GURL

R191...? I thought Ellen directed the espidoe?

Seriously, my question is did she ad lib the 'look at me' during blocking or shooting the scene?

Or did she walk on set and say, 'You! Day player! Look at me in this scene! Ready, action!"

Surely she couldn’t be adlibbing shouting at the actor if in the scene they were playing her character’s jaw was broken and she couldn’t speak.

Will she get LeaMicheled?

All these posts are from the same weirdo. A few different IPs. Bitch don't know nothing about TV sets or acting or directors or anything else. Just a diatribe for no reason.

Denzel was a guest director on a well established show. He's pomous when sleeping. Ellen Pompeo is often an ass. The End.

R196, R197, R198, R200 are all the same poster. Talking to itself. He always compliments his own posts.

Sad.

POMPOUS WHEN SLEEPING

I'm r197 and r198 and I'm r201 but I'm not the R196 and R200.

you don't know what you're talking about.

R204 I'm R200 and I'm none of those others. R197 is talking about film sets, not TV shows. Guest directors aren't shit on TV.

It responds within seconds. ALL THE SAME POSTER. Addressing itself and refuting the evidence.

Easy one to catch. Talks to himself day and night. Nobody really cares about this story - but he has to keep it going from a free devices.

SAD

R204 you are an idiot. Some of those posts are mine and I can assure you I have a lot of experience with acting so you can fuck the hell off. Ellen was being a pompous unprofessional asshole and the roasting she is getting in social media is well deserved.

Allowing your hatred of Denzel (or insert really all Black men) to twist yourself into a pretzel trying to defend the tactics of this whining entitled ignorant racist ass bitch only make you look like a moron, but go ahead "proceed Governor."

^^^ "makes"

R204 you are delusional.

I am R170, R196 and R209 (R210). Don't get mad because several people are calling out your bullshit! HAHAHA!

I don't like Grey's and I don't like the lazy actor Denzel has become. That said, I think playing the lead for the last 17 years gives her the right to be a picky asshole. This crappy show is what she is known for, now and forever. Denzel was just passing through.

R211, you tell 'em!

I'm most of those other numbers and I'm not you but I'm on your side.

Ellen was a bitch in this moment and all her money can't hide that she's entitled and hides behind that whole 'strong women' thing.

She never would have done that to a female director.

Rolls eyes at R99. White person never criticize or argue with Black person. Got my marching orders. Rolls eyes again.

Thank you for the support R213.

It's one thing for some moron to take a ridiculous and racist position on a chat board.

But then to not only attack other people personally for their opinion but to go the extra step to try and peel back the anonymity to continue harassing someone and then be WRONG about who is posting is just insane!

That kind of stupidity and pettiness needed to be called out!

I mean who does that? How empty does someone's life have to be for them to take it that far?

She's a pompous ass

She is such an alpha dog. 🐕

Addison's coming back and is going to steal the show.

Shut the bitch down!

Remember when she ran out of an interview weeping because Viola Davis was called unattractive as opposed to Kerry Washington and Ellen Pompeo and Ellen said she welcomes such comments because they provide teachable moments. Viola said they’re not calling you ugly, though, are they? And Ellen did nae like it one bit.

Has anyone come out and supported her? It's been crickets from what I've seen and heard.

R220 uh no i don't remember that. Wtf is wrong with her?!

The video of it is literally posted up thread R222.