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Do You Know What Irene Dunne Did?

No, what did she done do?

[quote]she was nominated five times for the Academy Award for Best Actress—for her performances in Cimarron (1931), Theodora Goes Wild (1936), The Awful Truth (1937), Love Affair (1939), and I Remember Mama (1948)

[quote]Dunne is considered the finest actresses never to have won an Academy Award. Some critics feel that her performances have been underappreciated and largely forgotten, overshadowed by movie remakes and her better-known co-stars.

[quote]She was nicknamed "The First Lady of Hollywood" for her regal manner despite being proud of her Irish-American, country-girl roots.

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by Anonymousreply 180September 29, 2021 11:18 PM

Irene Dunne...what?

by Anonymousreply 1August 31, 2021 6:22 PM

Early on, she was unnecessarily cruel towards a fresh-faced Helen Lawson at an audition. Helen never forgot, and their subsequent life-long feud is legendary.

by Anonymousreply 2August 31, 2021 6:25 PM

Do you know what she did your cunting Irene Dunne?

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by Anonymousreply 3August 31, 2021 6:25 PM

One of my favorite actresses . Her performance in The Awful Truth is brilliant. And her 1936 Showboat is beyond great. (Though just to split hairs, I would say Stanwyck was the finest actress never to win an Academy Award.)

by Anonymousreply 4August 31, 2021 6:27 PM

[quote]Some critics feel that her performances have been underappreciated and largely forgotten, overshadowed by movie remakes and her better-known co-stars.

Sad but true. Terrific actress and consummate professional but largely forgotten by the public overall and even by film scholars. Dunne was conservative (old-school Repub), Catholic, and very much a play-by-the-rules kind of studio employee. These are not the types that make cinema history, for better or worse.

by Anonymousreply 5August 31, 2021 6:31 PM

PS: I'm curious how many posts Irene's thread will get vs the Lana Turner or Natalie Wood threads from earlier this year.

by Anonymousreply 6August 31, 2021 6:32 PM

Well r6 we have to subtract two (yours and mine) from the count.

Also Dorothy Kilgallen is sharp in the OP, not a drugged out mess in the 60s.

by Anonymousreply 7August 31, 2021 6:34 PM

Comedy, drama, musicals..

She did it all.

by Anonymousreply 8August 31, 2021 7:13 PM

Indeed. She did it all. And she did comedy, drama, and musicals, as well as her very best competition and far better than most of her other colleagues.

by Anonymousreply 9August 31, 2021 7:22 PM

She often was paired with Cary Grant.

by Anonymousreply 10August 31, 2021 7:26 PM

Her terpsichorean skills...

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by Anonymousreply 11August 31, 2021 7:30 PM

I knew someone who would talk to her years ago at her church which I believed Loretta Young and Ann Blyth also attended. They didn't talk about her film career but life in general and the particular sermon. He said that she was so gracious and filled with joy even as an old lady, still beautiful but not so beautiful that you would be afraid to approach her. I enjoy her films and am glad she had a second part of her life outside the business to where she was not obsessing over the past like some movie stars did once the lights were off of them.

by Anonymousreply 12August 31, 2021 7:47 PM

Our Lady of the Cadillacs on Santa Monica Blvd.

by Anonymousreply 13August 31, 2021 7:48 PM

Vanity Fair:

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In 1967 we went to the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion at the Music Center in Los Angeles to see Katharine Hepburn in Coco, a musical about Coco Chanel. It was opening night, a black-tie affair, and the audience was keyed up with anticipation. Unfortunately, Irene and I were both in back braces, and we were sitting in the first row of the Founders Circle, so we needed an escort to take us to our seats. As we sat down, we each put on a pair of glasses. And as Hepburn came out and delivered her first lines, Irene said, “What did she say?” I replied, “Irene, what in the hell are we doing here? We can’t walk, we can’t see, and we can’t hear.” After a rather dreary performance, we were invited to the supper in the rotunda off the Founders Circle. We sat and we waited and waited and waited for Hepburn to arrive. When she finally did, she looked more like Peter Pan than Coco Chanel. As soon as she saw Irene, she made a beeline for her, crying, “My God, Irene, I haven’t seen you in a hundred years!” Irene just looked at her and said, “Oh, Kate, has it been that long?”

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by Anonymousreply 14August 31, 2021 7:57 PM

Irene Dunne was a class act. One of the few who could legitimately lay claim to such a thing in Hollywood then or since.

Beautiful, gracious, but hard working and a professional. A brilliant comedienne, but also fine actress with a legitimate trained voice.

Ms. Dunne didn't let Hollywood change her values, but also didn't let the latter interfere with her work. Yes, the lady was conservative and staunch Catholic, but she wasn't preachy or whatever. Ms. Dunne also was a rarity in that she married only the once, and the couple had a long and apparently happy union.

Catch Ms. Dunne co-starring with Cary Grant in "Penny Serenade".

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by Anonymousreply 15August 31, 2021 8:08 PM

Another forgotten gem, the melodrama "It Grows On Trees"...

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by Anonymousreply 16August 31, 2021 8:10 PM

Perhaps one of Ms. Dunne's most famous later roles was as Mrs. Clarence Day (Vinnie) in Life With Father opposite William Powell.

In later interviews Irene Dunne spoke to how she didn't want to take the role of a scatterbrained wife. However "Life With Father" was a hot property (the play was one of the longest running on Broadway at the time), so Ms. Dunne finally agreed.

Martin Milner played second oldest son "John Day", and would go onto "Route 66" and "Adam-12" and "Swiss Family Robinson" fame on television among other roles.

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by Anonymousreply 17August 31, 2021 8:17 PM

Outtake from film "Showboat", Irene Dunne applying blackface and singing....

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by Anonymousreply 18August 31, 2021 8:19 PM

Clip from Showboat....

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by Anonymousreply 19August 31, 2021 8:19 PM

Sing My Heart from film "Love Affair"...

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by Anonymousreply 20August 31, 2021 8:21 PM

Dunne was up there with Barbara Stanwyck as most versatile doing everything -- screwball comedy, melodrama, westerns, etc. True, Dunne sang legit in Jerome Kern musicals. Barbara was mostly dubbed -- however, she did sing in "Lady of Burlesque" and strip, do cartwheels, jitterbug, etc. extremely well. Both of them were among the best actresses who didn't win competitive Oscars, along with, oh, Greta Garbo, pretty little dish from Sweden, known mainly for tragedies and romantic dramas, but had one huge success in comedy in "Ninotchka".

by Anonymousreply 21August 31, 2021 8:26 PM

There's a line in the show "Two on the Aisle" with Bert Lahr and DL fave Dolores Gray that references "what Helen Hayes and Irene Dunne, I have also did!"

by Anonymousreply 22August 31, 2021 8:28 PM

^^Both Stanwyck and Garbo received honorary Oscars; Dunne didn't.

by Anonymousreply 23August 31, 2021 8:31 PM

Yes, R22. But it doesn't make any sense the way you related it.

Helen Hayes played Queen Victoria on Broadway. Irene Dunne played Queen Victoria on film.

And Bert Lahr played Queen Victoria in a comedy sketch in TWO ON THE AISLE.

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by Anonymousreply 24August 31, 2021 8:33 PM

Dunne should have gotten an honorary Oscar -- so should Thelma Ritter. These folks had among the most Oscar noms without winning. Like like they gave ones to Peter O'Toole and Deborah Kerr as makeups.

by Anonymousreply 25August 31, 2021 8:35 PM

Ms. Dunne's other famous film role was as the matriarch of a Norwegian immigrant family in "I Remember Mama".

Years ago clips from "I Remember Mama" or entire film were up on YT or elsewhere, seems they all have been taken down.

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by Anonymousreply 26August 31, 2021 8:35 PM

Kennedy Center honors 1985 Tribute to Irene Dunne

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by Anonymousreply 27August 31, 2021 8:36 PM

Wasn't that one of the few (or only) times they didn't insist the person attend in person? Was she on a live camera from home?

by Anonymousreply 28August 31, 2021 8:38 PM

No, r28, if I recall correctly, she actually went out there to attend but became too ill shortly before the ceremonies.

by Anonymousreply 29August 31, 2021 8:40 PM

R29 You do recall correctly on that.

by Anonymousreply 30August 31, 2021 8:44 PM

Irene Dunne was 87 at the time, but did make trip to Washington, D.C. to accept award in person. However day before Ms. Dunne suffered a reaction to medication taken for a long standing back illness and went to hospital. Mr. Jimmy Stewart announced Ms. Dunne wouldn't be able to attend at beginning of award ceremony.

by Anonymousreply 31August 31, 2021 8:45 PM

One of the better mini biographies of Irene Dunne.

Yes it is a scandal that Ms. Dunne never won an Oscar, or that they couldn't even bother giving her an honorary award.

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by Anonymousreply 32August 31, 2021 8:49 PM

Irene Dunne singing "Lovely To Look At" from "Roberta".

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by Anonymousreply 33August 31, 2021 8:51 PM

NYT obituary...

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by Anonymousreply 34August 31, 2021 8:52 PM

So many of her films were such good and successful propertie with Dunne in them, many were remade, which made them difficult to screen until revival houses and TCM.

Back Street – remade with Susan Hayward

Magnificent Obsession – remade with Jane Wyman

Roberta – remade as “Lovely to Look At” with Kathryn Grayson

Show Boat – remade with Kathryn Grayson

Love Affair – remade as “An Affair to Remember” with Deborah Kerr

My Favorite Wife – remade as “Move Over, Darling” with Doris Day; originally meant to star Marilyn Monroe, and she did film about 20 minutes or so of “Something’s Got to Give” before her death

A Guy Named Joe – remade as “Always” with Holly Hunter

by Anonymousreply 35August 31, 2021 8:55 PM

Though it couldn't be helped, and hardly was Ms. Dunne's fault, many attending that Kennedy awards gala were very much let down (bordering on put out) by news the good lady would not be able to attend.

People pulled strings, spent very good money, travelled great distances and everything else just to see Ms. Dunne. If you look at audience as camera scans about you'll see plenty of older persons who remember Irene Dunne fondly from seeing her films and so forth.

by Anonymousreply 36August 31, 2021 8:57 PM

Smoke Gets In Your Eyes....

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by Anonymousreply 37August 31, 2021 8:58 PM

I'm sure Ms. Dunne was just as disappointed by travelling there, getting sick and not being able to attend.

by Anonymousreply 38August 31, 2021 9:03 PM

I'm not quite sure, but I think in almost all of her film appearances when Irene Dunne sang, it was the music of Jerome Kern. Not too shabby! Kern must have really liked her, too!

by Anonymousreply 39August 31, 2021 9:05 PM

List of other actresses from Golden Era of Hollywood that didn't receive Oscars is rather long.

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by Anonymousreply 40August 31, 2021 9:05 PM

Everyone has really said what I would have. I think her performance in “ The Awful Truth” is one of best in film history. Very few actors could be as diverse in their performances. She also brought out the best in her co-stars. And her hospital scene in “ I Remember Mama” makes me cry every time.

by Anonymousreply 41August 31, 2021 9:14 PM

Maybe not as good as Stanwyck or Dunne, Kay Francis and Ann Harding are two other favorites of mine that deserve more recognition. Kay is more remembered for her speech impediment and fashion than her acting skills, but when she was good, she was mesmerizing ("One Way Passage", "Trouble in Paradise", "Confession" and "In Name Only"). Ann Harding originated the Hepburn role in the first movie of "Holiday" and pretty much co-ruled RKO at the same time as Irene. Kay was the top queen of Warner Brothers (1934-1937) before Bette Davis. TCM has honored her several times with marathons.

by Anonymousreply 42August 31, 2021 9:20 PM

I agree Kay Francis was quite good, and one of the biggest stars of her era that is little known nowadays. I'm glad TCM shows her films and allows others to rediscovery her. The speech impediment wasn't that bad, as she was a success on Broadway before moving to the screen, and some of her films, like those the above poster mentioned, are excellent, and she among their chief assets. Plus she was lovely and yes, her clothes were the height of fashion back then.

by Anonymousreply 43August 31, 2021 9:25 PM

Kay is unforgettable both as a villain and heroine. She is a home wrecking tramp in several early 30's film with her ogling of various men in "A Notorious Affair" quite shocking for its day. She even goes after a smelly stable boy! I don't recall any movie where Irene wasn't anything but noble. Stanwyck on the other hand was fantastic as a man killing femme fatale or long suffering heroine. Irene still deserves more legendary status. Then again so do Myrna Loy, Jane Wyman, Claudette Colbert and of course, Rin Tin Tin's favorite actress, Helen Twelvetrees.

by Anonymousreply 44August 31, 2021 9:46 PM

Well, Irene was fooling around with Randolph Scott (however much they deny it) on that island she was stranded on and when she was presumed dead by Cary Grant in "My Favorite Wife"!

by Anonymousreply 45August 31, 2021 9:52 PM

She sucked!

by Anonymousreply 46August 31, 2021 9:58 PM

Since Barbara Stanwyck's name keeps popping up!

Irene Dunne would never....

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by Anonymousreply 47August 31, 2021 10:00 PM

[quote]Ms. Dunne also was a rarity in that she married only the once, and the couple had a long and apparently happy union.

That means closeted lesbian in a sham marriage.

by Anonymousreply 48August 31, 2021 10:23 PM

I finally realized that she didn’t play Granny.

by Anonymousreply 49August 31, 2021 10:32 PM

r49

You're thinking of Meg Ryan

by Anonymousreply 50August 31, 2021 10:41 PM

I don’t know what I enjoy more about OP’s “What’s My Line” clip -

Irene in white gloves, mink stole and a discrete double-strand pearl choker … or Arlene’s eye patch.

Arrrr, matey, have you ever pillaged a legitimate theater?

by Anonymousreply 51August 31, 2021 10:47 PM

Dorothy was always clearly determined to win at all costs. Bennett Cerf also wanted to win these celebrity rounds (he'd scan the papers to see who was in town), but he was never as obvious as the chinless wonder.

by Anonymousreply 52August 31, 2021 10:50 PM

I'd like to see how Irene's coffee grinder compares to Missy's...

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by Anonymousreply 53August 31, 2021 11:19 PM

OP's What's My Line? clip is one of the best of that series, I laugh every time I watch it. Irene Dunne is simply glorious....hilarious, warm, gracious and beautiful. A great summation of every quality she showed in her long brilliant career.

by Anonymousreply 54September 1, 2021 2:43 AM

r54

There are better ones, like the time Dorothy is drunk and spazzes out on stage. Or the time they have the hillbilly from West Virginia who is missing half his teeth and she asks him, "Do you peregrinate?" (translation: travel or wander around from place to place.)

Even John Daly didn't know what it was

by Anonymousreply 55September 1, 2021 2:00 PM

Classy Lady .👱

by Anonymousreply 56September 1, 2021 3:05 PM

Dunne is considered the finest actresses never to have won an Academy Award. Some critics feel that her performances have been underappreciated and largely forgotten, overshadowed by movie remakes and her better-known co-stars.

I feel her pain

by Anonymousreply 57September 1, 2021 3:14 PM

There's some great footage out there of Ann Blyth's wedding in the mid-1950s at Our Lady of the Cadillacs with the attendance of Irene, Loretta, Roz and lots of Hollywood folks if anyone can find it and and link it.

TIA! (I'm old and inept)

by Anonymousreply 58September 1, 2021 3:21 PM

(r14) Not sure how they could have attended "Coco" in 1967 when it didn't even open on Broadway until 1969.

by Anonymousreply 59September 1, 2021 3:27 PM

(r14) It opened in Los Angeles at the Dorothy Chandler in April of 1971.

by Anonymousreply 60September 1, 2021 3:29 PM

Then they hadn't seen each other for 104 years.

by Anonymousreply 61September 1, 2021 3:34 PM

Second appearance.

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by Anonymousreply 62September 1, 2021 3:40 PM

Irene liked nothing more than a good glass of beer.

Actually I read something I think was interesting about her. She was something of a "lady" and was reluctant to do Theodora Goes Wild because she didn't think she was the type of actress to do screwball comedy. Well, she was wrong about that. But even more typical was that George Hurrell said she was a bit of a stick in the mud when it came to taking glamour portraits. Apparently Hurrell spoke to most of the actresses he was photographing, in a sexy way, getting them in the mood to pose provocatively and to give off an aura of sexuality. Whether it was Norma Shearer, Crawford, or the rest, they all did what Hurrell wished, but not Irene Dunne. She was not comfortable being sexy for the camera, and just blew him off, like, "Oh, let's not be silly." In fact she was relatively sexless onscreen but she substituted enormous charm and personality, and beauty.

By the way, she was born in 1898, so when she was in movies like Love Affair, she was already in her 40s, and looked fantastic.

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by Anonymousreply 63September 1, 2021 3:56 PM

Harpo, who dis woman?

by Anonymousreply 64September 1, 2021 4:47 PM

A music hall ditty...

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by Anonymousreply 65September 2, 2021 4:31 AM

American actress Ann Blyth marries James McNulty.

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by Anonymousreply 66September 5, 2021 9:22 AM

R10

[quote] She often was paired with Cary Grant

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by Anonymousreply 67September 5, 2021 9:35 AM

I think I read somewhere she was one of the original big age fudgers of her time...once she became a film star, I think her official studio bio shaved off a few years or just neglected to mention age. She was quite a bit older than her film contemporaries of the Thirties and five years older than Cary Grant.

She was 38 when she did the film of Show Boat, playing a teenaged Magnolia in the first part of the film and managed to get away with it.

She was 50 when she did I Remember Mama though she doesn't look it.

She was ageless.

by Anonymousreply 68September 5, 2021 10:42 AM

Studios regularly shaved ages of actresses of her generation, even if they'd been around for awhile. Women, in general of that also did. My mother, not quite as ancient as Dunne could be ridiculous and even as a 5 year old I figured out that her math was faulty, and that sort of thing was common in her gnereation.

by Anonymousreply 69September 5, 2021 1:36 PM

The Silver Cord is another Irene Dunne movie worth checking out. Pre code from 1933 in which Dunne is the new wife of Randolph Scott. They pay a visit to his mother Laura Hope Crews, who is a rather smothering and controlling of Scott and her other son Eric Linden to say the least. Dunne is solid as always, but Crews is amazing.

by Anonymousreply 70September 5, 2021 1:45 PM

Ann Miller was shameless about adjusting her age. Even for publication where she was certain to be caught.

In her biography, MILLER'S HIGH LIFE, she wrote that she started in movies at age 15 and that her mother altered her birth certificate to read that she was 18 and could, therefore, work as an adult. And she cursed those three extra years that had followed her around since then.

In 1979, When SUGAR BABIES opened on Broadway, in her bio Ann repeated the story about her mother altering her birth certificate to state that she was 18. But claimed that when she started in movies, she was really 13.

I went to the closing performance of SUGAR BABIES in London in 1990. Her bio contained the same story about her mother altering her birth certificate to state that she was 18, but now Ann claimed that when she started in moves, she was really 11.

Go, girl! Lay it on THICK.

by Anonymousreply 71September 5, 2021 1:49 PM

She was sexually harassed by Spencer Tracy while they were filming 'A Guy Named Joe'. Dunne complained to Louis B. Mayer, who told Tracy to knock it off.

by Anonymousreply 72September 5, 2021 1:52 PM

[quote]She was sexually harassed by Spencer Tracy while they were filming 'A Guy Named Joe'.

If true, that must have been while Van Johnson was away because of his accident.

Tracy was a real scumbag, wasn't he?

by Anonymousreply 73September 5, 2021 1:56 PM

Why would Tracy wait for Van to be out of the picture to sexually harass Irene, r73?

by Anonymousreply 74September 5, 2021 2:09 PM

Irene appears in the front row of the famous MGM anniversary company photo of "more stars than there are in heaven" but wasn't she only there making the one film A GUY NAMED JOE? Was she ever under contract to MGM?

by Anonymousreply 75September 5, 2021 2:14 PM

Irene turned down title role of "Mama" on TV, she was afraid of live television. Peggy Wood was Marta Hansen from 1949-1957.

by Anonymousreply 76September 5, 2021 2:26 PM

So, when Hal Whathisname on the OP's clip of WML is trying to determine Irene's age to guess her identity, that was a particularly awkward moment. Irene was 55 in that 1953 appearance. Love clever Arlene's comeback: "Younger than.....springtime?!"

by Anonymousreply 77September 5, 2021 2:36 PM

[quote]She was sexually harassed by Spencer Tracy while they were filming 'A Guy Named Joe'.

I read that he was a pain in the ass to her because he wanted Hepburn for the role, never that he sexually harassed her. Where did you get that info?

What was the point of the film of Ann Blyth's wedding?

by Anonymousreply 78September 5, 2021 4:32 PM

R73 Maybe some people around her should read James Curtis's biography of Tracy. He surely was a complex man and was no saint, but there are many instances of people talking about his generosity to them and how nice he was to them, I don't like how he's dismissed as a scumbag. There were far worse Hollywood stars than Tracy (Steve McQueen, for one).

by Anonymousreply 79September 5, 2021 4:36 PM

Tracy wasn't a scumbag, but he was a pitiful drunk and a sad closet case.

by Anonymousreply 80September 5, 2021 4:50 PM

After reading this thread, I just re-watched Penny Serenade again with Dunne and Cary Grant. Grant was nominated for an Oscar. It's such a great movie. The shmaltzy script was saved by the great, sometimes heartbreaking performances. I cry about ten times during the film (I know - MARY!). Even the kid who plays Trina is good. It's free on Prime.

by Anonymousreply 81September 5, 2021 8:49 PM

I didn't post the Ann Blyth wedding clip at r66 but I am the poster that suggested we have a look at the occasion as I remembered there was a great video somewhere. Though I thank r66 for taking the time to post that video, it's not the one to which I referred. There's another one, this one in color, that has many more star arrivals, including IIRC Irene Dunne, Roz Russell and Loretta Young, all present at their dear Our Lady of the Cadillacs Cathedral. Lots of hot young groomsmen, too, I think.

Sorry for not linking it myself....every time I try that linking business, I fail miserably. Old, ya know.

by Anonymousreply 82September 5, 2021 9:02 PM

R78

[quote] What was the point of the film of Ann Blyth's wedding?

There is another film clip (in color) of guests going into the wedding reception. Irene Dunne was one of the guests.

Can anyone find that clip?

by Anonymousreply 83September 5, 2021 9:03 PM

Poor Trina was written off in a letter.

I too love this schmaltzy movie.

Loved Miss Oliver and Applejack. 🍎

by Anonymousreply 84September 5, 2021 9:09 PM

Sweet! Lots of old folk here.

by Anonymousreply 85September 5, 2021 9:13 PM

(r75) Irene also filmed "The White Cliffs of Dover" at MGM during the same time period as "Joe". She was not, however, under any long-term contract with Metro as she preferred to freelance.

by Anonymousreply 86September 5, 2021 10:40 PM

Why did she allow herself to wear these fake cheeks in The Mudlark?

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by Anonymousreply 87September 5, 2021 11:51 PM

I adore Irene in The Awful Truth, Love Affair, My Favorite Wife, etc. She was a fine comedienne and romantic lead.

by Anonymousreply 88September 6, 2021 12:16 AM

Would Irene's delivery have been characterized as "clenched jaw" back then?

by Anonymousreply 89September 6, 2021 12:34 AM

She's wonderful in "I Remember Mama".

by Anonymousreply 90September 6, 2021 12:47 AM

*gasp*

It's the Irene Dunn Troll! You're Alive!

After all sickness and death lately we weren't sure. We rejoice!

by Anonymousreply 91September 6, 2021 12:51 AM

I think that Jean Arthur also lied about her age, practically still playing an ingenue (as opposed to Marlene Dietrich sexy) in "A Foreign Affair" in 1949, plus she played a Mom to a pretty young kid in 1954's "Shane", her last major role.

by Anonymousreply 92September 6, 2021 12:57 AM

The 1930s was justifiably in love with several older leading ladies.

Claudette Colbert and Norma Shearer (both born in 1902), like Arthur (born in 1900) and Dunne (b. 1898), were also a bit older than many of their peers. Not to mention Dietrich (b. 1901) and Mae West (the oldest of all, born in 1893). Garbo, born in 1905, was practically a spring chicken. And Joan Crawford......well, who knows when she really was born?

by Anonymousreply 93September 6, 2021 1:12 AM

[quote]OP: Dunne is considered the finest actresses never to have won an Academy Award.

I was never a plural no matter how many awards I lost.

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 94September 6, 2021 1:14 AM

OP: Dunne is considered the finest actresses never to have won an Academy Award.

Ahem.

by Anonymousreply 95September 6, 2021 1:17 AM

"Missy" Stanwyck never won a competitive Oscar, but the Academy did honor her with a special award while she was still alive.

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by Anonymousreply 96September 6, 2021 1:20 AM

I really think Dunne never got the honorary Oscar because she was so out of the Hollywood social scene for decades, far longer than Bacall or Doris Day (who refused it).

by Anonymousreply 97September 6, 2021 2:03 AM

Jeanette MacDonald, a good friend of Dunne after they met in the mid-1920's, remained close to the actress for the rest of her life. Jeanette was born in 1903 but when she signed with Paramount in 1929 for her first film, they changed her year of birth to 1907, where it remained for the rest of her life.

by Anonymousreply 98September 6, 2021 4:03 AM

It was Dunne who famously said to Macdonald, "Thank the good Lord I am not under contract to MGM. They'd probably want to pair me with that cigar store Indian you're stuck with (Nelson Eddy). Charlie McCarthy is a better actor..."

by Anonymousreply 99September 6, 2021 4:06 AM

I had no idea Miss Dunne was a 19th century baby, like Mae West, Humphrey Bogart and Charlie Chaplin. That was the Victorian Era and the tail end of the Belle Époque, which was so long ago.

by Anonymousreply 100September 6, 2021 4:36 AM

"I never formally retired, but an awful lot of the girls my age soldiered on in bad vehicles. I couldn't run around with an ax in my hand like Bette and Joan did to keep things going." -- Irene Dunne

by Anonymousreply 101September 6, 2021 4:37 AM

"A devout Roman Catholic, Irene Dunne steered clear of both the more glamorous and the less savory aspects of Hollywood life, devoting herself to her family and to her philanthropic work, especially to St. John's Hospital in Santa Monica, her pet charity. At home, she lived as Mrs. Griffith, her only concession to her status as a film star being her resolve never to be seen unless she was looking her best. A woman with a canny clothes sense, she was known for her poise and dignified bearing, was regarded as one of the best dressed women in Hollywood, and was always among the few actresses whose names were considered for the title "first lady of the screen."

and

"Never a great beauty even in her youth, Dunne was nevertheless a pretty girl with warm brown eyes, light brown hair and a dazzling smile, who matured into a handsome woman. As the years advanced after her retirement, however, she held her age less well than such contemporaries as Loretta Young and Claudette Colbert and, unwilling to destroy the public's memory of her on screen, declined an opportunity to appear in a photographic tribute to legendary screen actresses offered to her by Life magazine. Although her passing created far less stir than did those of some her contemporaries, this was due in part to the fact that she really retired long before she had to but also to her desire for privacy and her lack of public flamboyance."

Those two clips along with balance of linked article likely explain a bit of why Irene Dunne was "forgotten" long before she should have been, and or failed to perhaps receive an Oscar for life work.

Ms. Dunne first and foremost saw herself as Mrs. Francis Griffin, mother to Mary Frances Griffin. While very active in charitable circles, her church and few other bits, don't believe Irene Dunne "worked" for lifetime achievement awards. When she retired, that was that, and Irene Dunne moved on.

As for the age thing, plenty of actresses from "Golden Era" of Hollywood added then shaved off a few years here and there. Yvonne De Carlo's mother IIRC added a few years to her daughter's age so the girl could legally get work.

Seem to recall there was some bit of scandal with an obituary of some famous actress of Golden Era when it was determined she was older than what had been previously stated. Apparently someone did a bit of sleuthing and found a birth certificate....

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by Anonymousreply 102September 6, 2021 5:07 AM

DL Favorite Shirley Booth also shaved off a lot of years and she was mostly a theater gal.

by Anonymousreply 103September 6, 2021 5:47 AM

[quote]I think that Jean Arthur also lied about her age, practically still playing an ingenue (as opposed to Marlene Dietrich sexy) in "A Foreign Affair" in 1949, plus she played a Mom to a pretty young kid in 1954's "Shane", her last major role.

She played an old maid Congresswoman, how is that practically an ingenue? Anyway, she did play these roles and still looked attractive and relatively young, but when did she lie about her age? (Shane, by the way, was made in 1951, but not released until 1953.)

One of the actresses who definitely had years taken off her age was June Allyson. She was born in 1917, but MGM officially had her born in 1923, or even later, at times. I remember seeing an article referring to her as "Hollywood's Child Bride", with a straight face, when she was in her thirties.

The thing you have to remember about many of these actresses is that their ages were not usually mentioned in publications, unlike People Magazine (for ex.) which started the practice of always printing a star's age after their name. And there was no internet, so you had to look a little harder to discover ages.

by Anonymousreply 104September 6, 2021 5:52 AM

[quote]I think I read somewhere she was one of the original big age fudgers of her time...once she became a film star, I think her official studio bio shaved off a few years or just neglected to mention age.

There is a story that since Irene was about a decade older than many of her peers in the 30s and 40s, yet her face looking so much younger, one actress was known to have quipped, "There should be a rule that Irene Dunne's leading men should be at least as old as her hands!"

That NY Times obit is wrong. They make a stink about her real birthday being Dec. 20, 1898. Okay, then how could she die in September of 1991 "at age 91"? She would of course had been 92 turning 93 in December had she lived until her next birthday!

by Anonymousreply 105September 6, 2021 6:44 AM

Good friends Jeanette MacDonald and Irene Dunne were both approached to play Mother Abbess in "The Sound of Music" film, yet both declined. I don't think MacDonald with her heart ailments was up for it physically, but Dunne should have accepted the role. She would have been great!

by Anonymousreply 106September 6, 2021 6:48 AM

20th Century Fox toyed with idea of casting Ms. MacDonald or Ms. Dunne as Mother Abbess in film Sound Of Music. Of the two Irene Dunne was more toyed with (so to speak) than Jennette MacDonald, and even there due Ms. MacDonald's failing health talks really didn't go very far.

In the end Peggy Wood's big number (Climb Climb Every Mountain) was dubbed anyway (with the good lady's knowledge and consent). It would have been interesting to see if either MacDonald or Dunne could have brought the same sort of gravitas to the role of Mother Abbess that Peggy Wood did in spades.

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by Anonymousreply 107September 6, 2021 8:31 AM

A handsome woman. I don't like handsome women.

by Anonymousreply 108September 6, 2021 3:42 PM

Irene was also considered to play the Aunt Alicia role in Gigi (1958) -- played eventually by Isabel Jeans. I can't see her in that role. I think this might have had something to do with her being so conservative and religious, since Gigi at the time was considered risqué, and casting Irene would have given it a seal of approval from the Catholics, in a way.

by Anonymousreply 109September 6, 2021 3:52 PM

Wouldn't Irene have been an interesting Mrs. Meers in Thoroughly Modern Millie??

by Anonymousreply 110September 6, 2021 5:16 PM

Irene was close to producer Ross Hunter who produced "Millie" and often accompanied him to industry events/ Nancy Sinatra, Frank's ex-wife, also escorted him numerous times. He always expressed an interest in having Irene do one of his films but it never came to pass.

by Anonymousreply 111September 6, 2021 8:49 PM

Irene Dunne, Bea Lillie and Ross Hunter

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by Anonymousreply 112September 6, 2021 8:59 PM

Hunter was a huge fan of Hollywood's Golden Era and often cast stars from the 30's and 40's in roles in his films. Among them were Myrna Loy ("Midnight Lace"), Fay Wray ("Tammy and the Bachelor"), Constance Bennett ("Madame X"). Miss Dunne was offered the roles essayed by Loy and Bennett.

Hunter also wanted to cast Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy in the roles played by Edward Andrews and Arlene Francis in his 1963 hit Doris Day comedy, "The Thrill of it All". Eddy refused to do it and Hunter always felt that the real reason was because of the fact that when Hunter was a young actors in Hollywood in the 40's, he had a sexual encounter with Eddy. He shared the story with Dunne who remarked, with a laugh, "that must have been boring!" She had a sparkling sense of humor both on and off the screen.

by Anonymousreply 113September 6, 2021 9:04 PM

Regarding her clothes sense, r102, from r14:

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After Irene retired from pictures, in 1953, she devoted her time to volunteer work for the Republican Party and Catholic charities. In 1957, for her work on behalf of the Republicans, President Eisenhower appointed her to be a delegate to the 12th General Assembly of the United Nations. Before she left Beverly Hills, Loretta Young asked her, “Who is going to dress you in New York?” Irene said, “Well, I suppose I am. I’ll take what I have here.” Loretta said, “Oh, no, Irene, you’ve got to have a look! I think you should get Mainbocher to create a wardrobe for you.” Irene gave a little gasp, because she was very close with a dollar, but in the end she let Loretta prevail. Mainbocher designed a number of dresses for her, and when she got back to Los Angeles she told me, “I have to admit that I looked as good as anybody on the streets of New York.”

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For one charity event, Irene and Loretta Young, who was also a devout Catholic, were in New York, staying at the Hotel Pierre. As they were leaving for the benefit, Loretta said, “Are those the best earrings you have?” Irene said, “What’s wrong with them?” Instead of answering, Loretta got out an extra pair of diamond earrings she had with her and said, “Here, try these on.” There was no comparison, so Irene wore Loretta’s earrings. Leaving the party later, Irene took one off because it was pinching her ear. She wrapped it in a Kleenex and slipped it into her pocket. Arriving at the Pierre, she inadvertently pulled the Kleenex out and dropped it in the gutter. Only when she was undressing upstairs did she realize what she had done. She called down to the doorman, but the Kleenex and the earring had disappeared. When the ladies returned to Beverly Hills, Irene went to Russer’s, the well-known jeweler, and had the remaining earring copied. It cost her $12,000, and she vowed that she would never borrow anything again. She was wrong, however, as you shall see.

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Airport 77 had a special premiere in Anchorage, Alaska, and Jimmy and Gloria Stewart, the designer Edith Head, the director, Jerry Jameson, and I planned to attend. I invited Irene to go with us, and she was delighted. I told her she would need a couple of fur coats, and she said, “I only have my mink and my broadtail.” I said, “Borrow Loretta’s lynx.” She said, “Oh, I hate to borrow things.” I said, “Look, she’ll be happy to let you have it.”

So she took the lynx to Alaska, and she looked wonderful in it. However, whenever we would get into tight quarters, touring in out-of-the-way places, the lynx would get pushed under a seat or over the back of a seat or in an overhead rack. By the time we got home, it looked as if it had had more than 8 or 10 days’ wear; it looked worn out. When Irene returned it to Loretta, Loretta naturally asked, “Is this the coat I loaned you?” Irene replied, “Of course it is, darling. I hardly wore it.”

by Anonymousreply 114September 6, 2021 9:44 PM

R108, R109.

Miss Dunne was a good Catholic woman who lived with the Holy Jesus, God and the Holy Sprit as her guide, master and mentor.

It's inconceivable she would accept playing a character who taught prostitutes how to steal and who stole women into prostitution.

She would be forced to leave her local church.

by Anonymousreply 115September 6, 2021 9:45 PM

(r108 and 109) She did, however, thoroughly enjoy both films. In fact her loyalty to Hunter was such that she even accompanied him and Nancy Sinatra Sr. to the 1973 opening of "Lost Horizon" and claimed to have had a delightful evening.

by Anonymousreply 116September 6, 2021 9:51 PM

Where is that caftan today? I ask you. Also from r14:

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Jean Louis did most of Irene’s clothes, and one of her favorite creations was the gold caftan I alluded to earlier. She wore it quite often, not out so much but frequently at small dinner parties in her home. To one of these she invited the Stewarts, Loretta Young, Frances (Mrs. Edgar) Bergen, Constance (Mrs. Jerry) Wald, my friend the producer Jim Wharton and me, and a few others. I realized that the date was Valentine’s Day, so I called all of the women and suggested that they surprise Irene by wearing red or white, and the men would wear tuxedos. Everyone thought it was a great idea. We all arrived at Irene’s house about the same time, and when the door was opened there was Irene in the gold caftan. She was so stunned to see all the women in red and white and the men looking handsome in tuxes that she laughed about it. The following year she gave another Valentine’s Day party, and that time she was in a red chiffon dress, which she then wore every Valentine’s Day for the next 12 years. She had had the dress made, and she first wore it at the Walter Annenbergs’ New Year’s Eve party. After that it became her Valentine’s Day dress.

by Anonymousreply 117September 6, 2021 9:56 PM

Irene Dunne backstage at the Hollywood Bowl in August, 1948 after MacDonald's performance before more than 20,000. Irene wrote her longtime friend a note afterwards asking how MacDonald could so seemingly comfortably get up in front of that many people and sing. Dunne, who possessed a beautiful voice, was shy about public performances. She and Jeanette frequently sang duets together when they socialized at one another's homes.

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by Anonymousreply 118September 6, 2021 10:02 PM

You Are Love...

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by Anonymousreply 119September 6, 2021 10:09 PM

She was an RKO contract player, wasn't she?

But they went bankrupt and then her last two movies were Fox.

by Anonymousreply 120September 7, 2021 1:05 AM

Jeanette MacDonald was not thought of as a raving beauty, but truly she was. Eleanor Powell's good looks are also underrated, yet both were true beauties who never really leaned on it.

by Anonymousreply 121September 7, 2021 1:08 AM

Interesting that Loretta Young was considered for a "nun" role in "The Trouble With Angels", but not Irene Dunne.

Greta Garbo was offered $1 million USD for lead role of Mother Superior in that film, but she turned it down. Roz Russell was next on list and she jumped at the offer.

With her great comedy acting skills think Irene Dunne would have made a great mother superior in TTWA

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by Anonymousreply 122September 7, 2021 1:19 AM

Greta Garbo turned down the role of the Norwegian matriarch in "I Remember Mama" at the same time she turned down Alfred Hitchcock's "The Paradine Case." She is reported to have said, "No murderesses, no mamas."

Irene Dunne ended up being cast as "Mama" instead...

by Anonymousreply 123September 7, 2021 1:24 AM

Swedish or not, I can't imagine Greta Garbo could have conveyed the maternal warmth needed for I Remember Mama. She was wise to turn it down. And she dodged a bullet with The Paradine Case.

by Anonymousreply 124September 7, 2021 2:12 AM

Here's the color footage you want to see. Beautiful Irene Dunne is at 3:37,

Apple Valley Inn did not allow Jews. Stanwyck in silver hair is a knockout. Some of the notes:

"I believe Blyth's wedding was in 1953. This would have put Irene Dunne at 55. She had exquisite taste in her attire. The white outfit with the lime hat and matching purse she wore here was stunning. She really stood out. As she walked out of the hotel, notice how everyone in the background was watching her. Also, compare her dress to theirs. She was an attention grabber. She was always dressed to kill. It looks like the wedding reception was held in the Beverly Hills Hotel. Irene was one of the investors who bought the hotel in 1941. Thanks for the video. It's really hard to find videos of Irene after she left the movies. There are only a couple.":

From mrspatrickcampbell: "Danny "Make Room for DooDoo" Thomas was there!"

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by Anonymousreply 125September 7, 2021 2:21 AM

I'm glad that Garbo ditched those two unsuitable roles but I think it's a pity she didn't take up an offer from Max Ophuls in the early 50s to appear with James Mason.

Max Ophuls was appreciative and respectful of her European nature.

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by Anonymousreply 126September 7, 2021 2:22 AM

Why would Dunne have wanted "Trouble with Angels" if she already was retired. I would have thought Young would have jumped at playing a nun given her exaggerated Catholicism, but probably not one without glamour.

by Anonymousreply 127September 7, 2021 2:28 AM

Thanks for that video R125. Ann Blyth married obstetrician James McNulty in 1953. He was the brother of singer Dennis Day. One of Ann's bridesmaids was the late Jane Withers. Others pictured are Terry Moore and Piper Laurie, who like Ann, still walk among us.

by Anonymousreply 128September 7, 2021 2:42 AM

Jeanne Crain is also seen at the wedding with her gorgeous husband, whoever he was. Irene looks so elegant there. Tiny cinched in waist in that New Look tailored suit. This would have been the same year as OP's clip from What's My Line?

And YES, THANK YOU, r125, for finding the clip!

by Anonymousreply 129September 7, 2021 2:48 AM

R63, Olivia deHavilland was the same way. She too found Hurrell’s sense of humor offensive. Her sitting with him was not successful. She looks ill at ease. Garbo didn’t care for his antics either. I like Dunne, but yeah, no sex appeal whatsoever. Like Jane Wyman and Ron Russell.

Can’t believe that she did blackface. Irene’s father was a riverboat captain on the Mississippi, so I am sure she saw a lot of people performing in blackface.

by Anonymousreply 130September 7, 2021 2:51 AM

" Others pictured are Terry Moore and Piper Laurie, who like Ann, still walk among us."

We'll go with that assumption, r128. Is that Piper in lavender?

by Anonymousreply 131September 7, 2021 2:53 AM

R125: I'm surprised Thomas was there. Places that excluded Jews usually had a long list of other "semites" that they included including "Syrians" (a term that included Lebanese even if they were Christians)

by Anonymousreply 132September 7, 2021 2:56 AM

It's not true that her blackface number in Show Boat was lost.

Along with the snippet on YouTube, I remember the entire number was included on the Criterion laserdisc.

I was a bit shocked that it was shot and more shocked that it was included. Even without blackface, it was a very racist song.

In fairness, Irene Dunne was very funny in it, still . . .

by Anonymousreply 133September 7, 2021 3:01 AM

Piper Laurie looks quite extraordinary in that lavender ensemble with her bright red hair and very bright red lipstick.

Love how women in the 1940s and early 50s wore bright red lipstick no matter what color outfit.

by Anonymousreply 134September 7, 2021 3:07 AM

I wonder if Fred "cheap skate" MacMurray bummed a ride with someone. Stanwyck looks radiant. That lavender number looks awful---too much fabric and the lipstick makes her look clown-ish.

by Anonymousreply 135September 7, 2021 3:28 AM

Irene Dunne wasn't sexually harassed while filming "A Guy Named Joe", but rather director Victor Fleming and Spencer Tracy made her life a living hell early on. The pair of them teased and otherwise went at Ms. Dunne without mercy often driving her to state of tears.

Van Johnson having that accident proved beneficial. He was given a long leave of absence from filming to recover, and a deal was struck between Fleming and Tracy to ease up on Ms. Dunne. Time Van Johnson was out of commission was used to reshoot scenes that weren't what they could have been due to previously mentioned issues.

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by Anonymousreply 136September 7, 2021 3:50 AM

^ So Tracy and Dunne were both Catholic?

by Anonymousreply 137September 7, 2021 4:04 AM

Spencer Tracy was Catholic, but any comparison between his faith and Irene Dunne stops right there.

Mr. Tracy was a philander, and spent last years two decades of his life living in sin with Katherine Hepburn. Ironically one of Spencer Tracy's conquests was the very Catholic Loretta Young. Guess she wasn't that bothered then by committing adultery with a married man.

Tellingly both Tracy children were brought up as Episcopalians, the faith of their mother.

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by Anonymousreply 138September 7, 2021 4:21 AM

Oh yes, r138, that passionate, two decades of living in sin with the wanton Kate.

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by Anonymousreply 139September 7, 2021 4:39 AM

We've been through it all before but Tracy had a wife and 2 kids. He had no need to prove his heterosexuality by bearding with Katharine Hepburn.

by Anonymousreply 140September 7, 2021 4:46 AM

Lovely song...

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by Anonymousreply 141September 7, 2021 5:07 AM

r132, I don't think they're at the restricted inn. At any rate, the footage also included Jack Benny, so . . . guessing that was either at the Beverly Hills Hotel or near the church.

by Anonymousreply 142September 7, 2021 5:50 AM

[quote]vMr. Tracy was a philander, and spent last years two decades of his life living in sin with Katherine Hepburn.

Bwahaha. Really! One mustn't believe much that came out of the mouth of Miss Hepburn (nor Garson Kanin for that matter) on the subject of Spencer Tracy.

My uncle was gay as a goose and he had four children. Didn't make him any less gay.

by Anonymousreply 143September 7, 2021 7:11 AM

It was disappointing when I read in Judy Lewis' autobiography "Uncommon Knowledge" (very interesting) about her life as Loretta Young's "adopted" daughter, when she wrote that Mrs. Griffin was a very chilly unmotherly person, and nothing like the warm and funny Irene Dunne people knew on the screen.

Judy seems to have found both her mother and Dunne to be poor Catholics, i.e. a couple of frauds.

by Anonymousreply 144September 7, 2021 8:08 AM

I don't really know if Spencer Tracy was bisexual or not but he certainly wasn't having any sex with that old lesbian Kate Hepburn.

And, as for living together, they didn't even see each other for huge stretches of time over that so called 20 years of being a couple deeply in love. He lived in Los Angeles and she was only there when she had to be for a picture. She mostly lived on the East Coast.

Kate was a smart bitch. She created the myth of her forbidden tragic love with him as the perfect cover for her own labia licking lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 145September 7, 2021 9:52 AM

It's a shame that Irene Dunne never had a chance to play Anna in the musical "The King and I". She starred in the 1940's non-musical version, "Anna and the King of Siam" and was excellent. Jeanette (here) appeared on-stage in the musical version in 1956.

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by Anonymousreply 146September 7, 2021 12:07 PM

The footage of the Ann Blyth wedding doesn't seem to have anything to do with the footage of Stanwyck and MacMurray that precedes it. It seems to have been possibly spliced together by the fan that shot both occasions. I don't think Blyth's wedding employed the Applewood Inn, the reception after church was at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Stanwyck and MacMurray appeared together in the 1955 film There's Always Tomorrow, reunited from Double Indemnity, and the footage here seems to capture them at some location filming at the Applewood Inn. Fred looks somehow looks so unpleasant here, more JJ Sheldrake than the Absent-Minded Professor. Stanwyck's natural beauty and warmth come through. Interesting that she made the unconventional choice at that time not to dye her silver hair and it worked for her.

by Anonymousreply 147September 7, 2021 2:16 PM

Irene Dunne looking stunning, arrives with Ross Hunter and Nancy Sinatra Sr. in June of 1963 at the premiere of "The Thrill of it All"

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by Anonymousreply 148September 7, 2021 2:58 PM

Here it is at the 32 second spot.

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by Anonymousreply 149September 7, 2021 2:59 PM

Enough with the Bing. It never works.

by Anonymousreply 150September 7, 2021 3:01 PM

(r150) You're so right.

by Anonymousreply 151September 7, 2021 3:02 PM

There were movies before Angelina Jolie came along?

by Anonymousreply 152September 7, 2021 3:45 PM

[quote]I don't think Blyth's wedding employed the Applewood Inn, the reception after church was at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Can you imagine the shock at the reception when she served Twinkies, King Dons, HoHos and Snoballs?

by Anonymousreply 153September 7, 2021 4:00 PM

[quote]Bwahaha. Really! One mustn't believe much that came out of the mouth of Miss Hepburn (nor Garson Kanin for that matter) on the subject of Spencer Tracy. My uncle was gay as a goose and he had four children. Didn't make him any less gay.

Tracy had a serious affair with Loretta Young, in the 30s, nearly broke up his marriage. It was made public and they both eventually made public statements about why they broke up (religion being a big part of it). If Tracy was gay as a goose I can't understand why he would be involved in that scandal that could have wrecked his career when he was just getting started. He also apparently was always after Myrna Loy, but didn't get anywhere (at least according to her). He was also involved (this is well known) with Ingrid Bergman. I could name several others (he was even involved with some women while with Hepburn). Maybe he was bisexual, but what is the proof of this, other than Scotty Bowers, who said every dead star was gay, almost?

by Anonymousreply 154September 7, 2021 6:19 PM

In her autobiography, Joan Fontaine mentioned being on a government goodwill tour in South America that Irene Dunne was also on. One morning she mentioned to Irene that she hadn't slept well. All night long, she said, there were crowds outside her window, shouting, "Joanna Fontana, Joanna Fontana!". Irene said, that's funny, I thought they were shouting, "Irenee Doonnee."

by Anonymousreply 155September 7, 2021 6:23 PM

Why was she born?

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by Anonymousreply 156September 7, 2021 6:26 PM

Speaking of Joan Fontaine, I noticed in the Ann Blyth wedding clip that Irene Dunne looked very much like Joan. Did anyone else see the resemblance?

by Anonymousreply 157September 7, 2021 6:34 PM

Bowers wasn't the only one to spill the beans on Tracy's bisexuality.

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by Anonymousreply 158September 7, 2021 9:40 PM

R156

[quote] Why was I born?, Why am I living?, What do I get?, I'm a poor fool, But what can I do?, Why was I born?

I don't understand why people sing this morbid, unappealing song which celebrates self-hatred and doubt.

Irene Dunne was a Catholic (but Kern and Hammerstein weren't) but if I was in Irene Dunne's parish congregation I'd be suggesting to her that miserable songs like this lead to suicide.

(And suicide is too easy— particularly in times of crisis such as the nation was enduring when this song appeared in 1929).

by Anonymousreply 159September 7, 2021 10:21 PM

It's a friggin' torch song, r159, whaddya expect, Spike Jones?

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by Anonymousreply 160September 7, 2021 11:26 PM

[quote] friggin'

Doesn't belong in the world of Irene Dunne.

Irene was a lady.

by Anonymousreply 161September 7, 2021 11:29 PM

Irene Dunne performed no sexual acts in her fifty movies.

by Anonymousreply 162September 7, 2021 11:35 PM

Yeah, yeah. But how did she get those fifty movies???

by Anonymousreply 163September 7, 2021 11:45 PM

No need to be crude, R163.

The supreme bosses of all the studios were all happy to conform to the strictures of the Hays Code.

by Anonymousreply 164September 7, 2021 11:54 PM

She was the wife of Joel McCrea in TSC, R70.

by Anonymousreply 165September 8, 2021 12:49 AM

I much prefer the young Joel McCrea to the young Randolph Scott. I need to check out The Silver Chord.

by Anonymousreply 166September 8, 2021 1:07 AM

Randolph had skinny legs and a flat ass. He was blond, that’s all. People will forgive a lot over some blond hair…

by Anonymousreply 167September 8, 2021 3:49 AM

The scent of Aqua Net...

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by Anonymousreply 168September 8, 2021 3:53 AM

and...

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by Anonymousreply 169September 8, 2021 3:56 AM

[quote]I don't understand why people sing this morbid, unappealing song which celebrates self-hatred and doubt.

Because it's a song with a trick lyric, it's not really about lamenting why one was born. It all ends up being about "Why was I born...to love you?"

by Anonymousreply 170September 8, 2021 7:31 AM

All the things...

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by Anonymousreply 171September 24, 2021 7:28 PM

I didn't see her in Pippin?

by Anonymousreply 172September 24, 2021 7:55 PM

I loved her in Fame!

by Anonymousreply 173September 25, 2021 12:00 AM

I said good night to her.

by Anonymousreply 174September 25, 2021 12:27 AM

Yesterdays

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by Anonymousreply 175September 28, 2021 10:58 PM

Irene Done is the Kitty Carlisle of Movie Stars. A head tosser. Ladylike up the arse, with a dull light opera voice.

by Anonymousreply 176September 28, 2021 11:10 PM

Kitty Carlisle is the Kitty Carlisle of movie stars.

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by Anonymousreply 177September 28, 2021 11:20 PM

R176 Kitty is still kind of fun in "A Night at the Opera", but had did she get to the Met, even as Orlofsky in "Die Fledermaus"?

by Anonymousreply 178September 29, 2021 12:27 AM

Irene was great in The Beverly Hillbillies. I think she won an Emmy.

by Anonymousreply 179September 29, 2021 10:36 PM

My great Uncle was her lawyer. She wrote my Mom a lovely letter (not just a note) after he died. Class act.

by Anonymousreply 180September 29, 2021 11:18 PM
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