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Molly Shannon opens up about the tragedy that made her into the woman, and comedian, she is now

Shannon is obliquely referring to the deaths of her mother, younger sister and cousin in a car accident when she was 4. Her father, who had been driving under the influence, survived but was horribly injured. In her years of fame, she hasn’t talked much publicly about the accident or its aftermath — it’s not easy fodder for a late-night TV appearance, she says — but it cast a long shadow over her childhood in Shaker Heights, Ohio.

“I was very heartbroken and very sad and just trying to hold it all together as a kid,” says Shannon, who has two teenage children with her husband, artist Fritz Chesnut. “There’s no way that you could feel that type of deep pain about your mother and your sister being dead, so you just hold it all in, and it comes up later in life.”

This profound loss shaped the career of a woman who kept viewers in stitches for seven seasons on “SNL” and has since ascended to National Treasure status. Dating back to the endearingly volatile Gallagher, Shannon has gravitated to characters whose wholesomeness is often suffused with something darker and more complicated — instantly familiar everywomen with deep reserves of sadness and anxiety.

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by Anonymousreply 47April 13, 2022 8:50 AM

I love Molly Shannon.

I loved Year of the Dog. I find her smart and interesting.

Some of her SNL characters are a bit extra but overall, love her.

The story about her mom is sad. I saw Molly's ancestry thing (Who Do You Think You Are?) and she was so emotional about meeting some of her mom's relatives in Ireland.

by Anonymousreply 1August 22, 2021 3:10 PM

I'd like to take her out for limitless cocktails and witty banter. After that, endless cruising in my Ford Escape.

by Anonymousreply 2August 22, 2021 3:10 PM

I love that you love her, R1. A lot of the people in The White Lotus thread were really hard on her, I suspect mainly because she was on SNL and people see comedians as beneath 'legit' actors, but I think she is naturally very funny despite a lot of lame SNL material, and I thought she did a great job on TWL.

by Anonymousreply 3August 22, 2021 3:24 PM

She was great in many things. Always loved her.

by Anonymousreply 4August 22, 2021 3:26 PM

The Other Two is great and it seems like she will have a bigger role in that this season.

by Anonymousreply 5August 22, 2021 3:36 PM

Love her.

She is a good dramatic actress.

See Year of the Dog and Other People if you haven't already.

by Anonymousreply 6August 22, 2021 3:37 PM

She was in the running for that Oscar season with Other People

by Anonymousreply 7August 22, 2021 3:39 PM

R7 She should have been nominated. That performance was so heartbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 8August 22, 2021 3:44 PM

The lesbian Emily Dickinson movie was weird, though.

by Anonymousreply 9August 22, 2021 3:49 PM

She was also in Promising Young Woman. She can definitely do more than SNL, but a lot of those folks get pigeon-holed. I think she's great. Hate that she had such a tragic childhood.

by Anonymousreply 10August 22, 2021 3:50 PM

Bitch be cray-cray.

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by Anonymousreply 11August 22, 2021 3:53 PM

Not funny

by Anonymousreply 12August 22, 2021 3:55 PM

Have loved her since SNL. That dog show sketch with Will Ferrell still makes me laugh.

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by Anonymousreply 13August 22, 2021 3:56 PM

Superstar!

Ya gotta love this:

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by Anonymousreply 14August 22, 2021 4:03 PM

Also loved this one

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by Anonymousreply 15August 22, 2021 4:12 PM

Stephen Colbert had a similar loss, losing two brothers and his father in a plane crash when he was young. I can’t imagine the grief and suffering, especially in Molly’s situation, with her father being responsible.

by Anonymousreply 16August 22, 2021 4:18 PM

I really liked her character on Enlightened.

by Anonymousreply 17August 22, 2021 4:29 PM

I love Molly! She was the one good thing on “Divorce,” the HBO show with SJP. When she appeared in “The White Lotus,” I gay gasped with delight!

by Anonymousreply 18August 22, 2021 8:30 PM

Hilarious and a great actress

by Anonymousreply 19August 22, 2021 8:33 PM

I love her too. I thought she was just right as Kitty Patton.

A little quirky… just enough of a weirdo to inspire Shane to marry an equally “kooky” woman.

But not so kooky as to buck the system.

by Anonymousreply 20August 23, 2021 5:14 AM

She’s the best part of the very hit-or-miss The Other Two.

by Anonymousreply 21August 23, 2021 5:20 AM

She's not funny. No woman from SNL has ever been funny. She's a prime example of an unfunny female "comic" that we're supposed to adore. Nope. There used to be funny female females years ago like Phyllis Diller and Carole Burnett. Not anymore.

by Anonymousreply 22August 23, 2021 7:56 AM

And she was the worse thing and completely out of place on The White Lotus. Only there because she's Mike White's friend.

by Anonymousreply 23August 23, 2021 7:57 AM

Love her. She’s such a delight.

by Anonymousreply 24August 24, 2021 4:49 PM

I realize this sentiment is very DataLounge inappropriate, but Molly Shannon's tragic story lends some explanation to why she is the way she is, and it might be worth considering that people like Leslie Jones, Pete Davidson, Kate McKinnon and others who people say such nasty things about might have traumatic upbringings, too. (We know Davidson does.)

A lot of people love Cecily Strong on SNL because she is very funny and has been underused instead of overused like Kate McKinnon has (everyone loves the underdog), and Strong recently revealed she had to take time off because of severe depression.

I get weirded out when I think about how many comedians and especially SNL cast members have been so depressed and even died in tragic ways because of it, and yet they keep going through the mill and it never occurs to anyone that the current cast might be as fucked up as Chris Farley, Phil Hartman et al.

by Anonymousreply 25August 24, 2021 5:14 PM

Comedians are the most fucked up. That's why they're able to laugh at everything and want you to laugh, too. It forces away depression. If you can make fun of something, you take away its power.

The best comedians always play from the heart, which is something I've noticed about Molly. Mary Katherine Gallagher is wacky and weird and that's why people seem to love her, but there's also such sadness to her. You feel bad for her and want her to succeed.

by Anonymousreply 26August 24, 2021 5:51 PM

The least tragic “origin story” I’ve ever heard for a comedian was “my mom battled severe depression and it became my job to make her laugh.” The dories get more tragic from there.

by Anonymousreply 27August 24, 2021 6:03 PM

[quote] A lot of the people in The White Lotus thread were really hard on her, I suspect mainly because she was on SNL and people see comedians as beneath 'legit' actors,

Despite your suspicions, it is completely within the realm of feasibility that people have liked her in other projects but just didn't like her in "The White Lotus" because she was miscast.

I love Molly Shannon in so many things, including SNL, "Will & Grace," and "Superstar" (where she's particularly hilarious). But she was not well cast as a Hamptons socialite in "The White Lotus."

by Anonymousreply 28August 24, 2021 9:56 PM

[quote] The dories get more tragic from there.

I'm the most tragic Dory of them all! My husband left me for one of our friends!

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by Anonymousreply 29August 24, 2021 9:58 PM

I think Molly was miscast in "White Lotus," but anyone can see that the woman who wrote and then performed this has a kind of genius.

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by Anonymousreply 30August 27, 2021 3:56 AM

Molly was great on Will and Grace...but, then again, we all were.

by Anonymousreply 31August 27, 2021 4:00 AM

R17 I loved that character too!

by Anonymousreply 32August 27, 2021 4:01 AM

Just as I arrived for our lunchtime appointment, Molly Shannon came gliding up Larchmont Boulevard on a Trek bicycle, looking for ways to spread her personal brand of eccentric joy.

I was fretting about a fender-bender I’d recently had with my rental car, but Shannon told me not to worry. Dressed in a billowy sundress on a Friday afternoon in February, she walked around to the front of my car and eyed up the scuff marks near one headlight. Occasionally she waved back at passers-by who shouted, “Hi, Molly!” (It wasn’t clear if she knew these people or not.)

Then, in her own way, she explained that life can take away but it also gives back.

As a teenager, Shannon said she had applied to a selective private school — one whose acceptance might have put her on a track to an adulthood of influence and prestige, if not necessarily future roles on TV shows like “Saturday Night Live,” “The Other Two” and “The White Lotus.”

While she awaited the school’s judgment, she was also anticipating the arrival of her Sea-Monkeys, the brine shrimp sold to trusting children with colorful comic-book ads that depicted them as exotic pets.

And on the same day she learned the school had rejected her, Shannon said, “my Sea-Monkeys hatched.” She paused and added brightly, “So, you never know.”

That blithe attitude has been fundamental to many of Shannon’s best-known characters, like Mary Katherine Gallagher, the maladapted but plucky schoolgirl who was her signature role on “S.N.L.”

Shannon, 57, is more knowing than her oblivious characters, but she shares their determination to forge ahead happily no matter the circumstances, and that spirit is vivid in her new memoir, “Hello, Molly!”, which will be released by Ecco on April 12.

But before readers get to Shannon’s picaresque tales of her upbringing and career, they must first follow her account of one of the darkest days of her life and the automobile accident that devastated her family.

As I sat down with her to review the harrowing details, Shannon told me, “It feels very vulnerable to open yourself for people but I wanted to be brave and just push through it.”

On the night of June 1, 1969, when Shannon was 4, her father, Jim, was driving the family back from an all-day party to their home in Shaker Heights, Ohio. He had been drinking, and had taken a nap earlier that afternoon. About 90 minutes into the trip, he sideswiped another car and then swerved into a steel light pole. Though Molly and her older sister, Mary, survived with injuries, their younger sister, Katie, and cousin Fran were killed in the collision; her mother died later in the hospital.

Shannon lived with relatives while her father recuperated. When she returned home, school was a blur. “I was like, why is everyone so chipper?” she said. “They were like, ‘The wheels on the bus go — ’ and I was like, I’m exhausted.”

While the accident could have also ruptured the relationship between her and her father, Shannon said that they grew close in the years that followed. “Harboring blame or resentment or anger doesn’t do any good for anyone,” she told me. “He pulled himself up and went on to raise two daughters. He did his very best and he was proud of me. I admired him.”

By Shannon’s own reckoning, her father was a puckish influence — a stylish dresser with a salty vocabulary who filled the home with Judy Garland music after he’d spent the day on a housekeeping spree induced by diet pills.

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by Anonymousreply 33April 8, 2022 1:48 PM

Her father cajoled her into outrageous behavior, like stowing away on a flight to New York when she was 13. “He was wild,” Shannon said. “He’d take simple stuff like going into a candy store and be like, ‘Let’s pretend we’re blind,’ asking, ‘Is this chocolate?’”

Yet within their community, Shannon’s father was regarded as a capable (if permissive) parent. Alison Doub, a childhood friend of the author’s, recalled, “In my family, we would say, ‘Jim Shannon’s doing such a wonderful job with those girls.’”

Shannon went on to study at New York University’s Tisch School of the Arts and perform in student productions, including a comedy revue where she created an early version of her Mary Katherine Gallagher character.

After graduation, Shannon toughed it out in Los Angeles, working as an office temp and a restaurant hostess and occasionally landing appointments with agents by running a scam where she and a friend pretended to work for David Mamet. (According to Shannon, she was only busted once.)

Though Shannon believed her future was in dramatic acting, she landed reliable representation and, eventually, her slot at “S.N.L..”

“I was looking for clients and I couldn’t believe my eyes,” said Steven Levy, who became one of Shannon’s first agents and is now her manager. “She was literally bleeding. Her knees were bleeding and her elbows were dripping blood. When she did Mary Katherine Gallagher, she was so committed that she threw herself into the wall.”

“Hello, Molly!”, which Shannon wrote with Sean Wilsey (“Oh the Glory of It All”), goes on to recount her time at “S.N.L.” She joined the long-running sketch comedy show in 1995, and several of her hit characters — including the unapologetically over-the-hill dancer, Sally O’Malley — were in some way inspired by her father’s theatricality.

Then, as Shannon was preparing to leave “S.N.L.” in 2001, she learned that her father had come out as gay in a phone conversation with Levy. Weeks later, in a private moment when Shannon thought that her father was about to share this with her as well, he instead disclosed that he had prostate cancer.

More weeks went by before Shannon found the courage to ask him: “Have you ever thought you might be gay?”

She writes that her father answered without hesitation, “Most definitely.”

Jim Shannon died in 2002, moments after he had advised Molly to get married and have children and complimented her on her small role in the comedy “Analyze This.”

Molly Shannon, who married the artist Fritz Chesnut in 2004 and has two teenage children, told me she found value in unfurling her personal story from the moment of the accident — a tragedy that dictated the course of her earliest years but which she would not let dominate her life.

“It gives you a resilience,” she said. “You’re able to jump over obstacles. Maybe I wouldn’t have taken that first chance if I hadn’t had those disadvantages.”

Shannon said the crash left her with a sense of loss that she will never fully be able to dispel. “I couldn’t believe that good things could last,” she said.

For example, she said, “When I first started at ‘S.N.L.,’ I didn’t want to hang anything up in my dressing room. I was afraid this might all blow up. I always felt like disaster was right around the corner.”

The writer-director Mike White, who has cast Shannon in projects like “The White Lotus,” “Enlightened” and “Year of the Dog,” said that her book had a candor that is rare in show-business memoirs.

“In a way that’s not didactic or earnest or preachy, she’s giving you the keys to how to live,” White said. “How do you move through loss and turn your life into something beautiful? It made me feel like I need to stop complaining about whatever bumps in the road I’ve experienced.”

by Anonymousreply 34April 8, 2022 1:50 PM

Shannon will next be playing a star personality on a fictional home-shopping network in the Showtime comedy “I Love That For You,” which has its premiere April 29.

To this day, she said she thinks of herself as a graduate of “the Jim Shannon school of acting”: “He loved theater but he didn’t have the confidence to be a performer,” she said, adding that before nearly every new gig, “I always ask myself, do I still really want this? Did I do it just for him?”

But her father, she said, remains the part of herself that doesn’t care if she is recognized for any particular performance as long as she is approaching her work with a positive attitude.

Nor is Shannon much concerned about how readers might react to the side of herself that she reveals in “Hello, Molly!”

By way of explanation, she shared a story from when she was a restaurant hostess, and would invite the customers to see her after-hours comedy show.

One guest seemed like she would be especially receptive to her material, Shannon said: “She was an Irish Catholic mother of five, and I invited her to my show. I thought, well, she’s Irish like me.”

But the performance did not get the reception she expected. “She was disgusted,” Shannon said. “She thought Sally O’Malley was so bawdy, and how dare you curl your pants up like that?”

This criticism did not bother Shannon in the least. “I thought, Jim Shannon approves of everything,” she said. “He gave me great freedom,” she said. “He was like: That’s. My. Molly.”

by Anonymousreply 35April 8, 2022 1:50 PM

When the article got to her father playing Judy Garland music, I had a feeling where this was going.

by Anonymousreply 36April 8, 2022 1:55 PM

Meh!

by Anonymousreply 37April 8, 2022 1:55 PM

Love her. She’s a gem.

And “dog show” on SNL always made me laugh so hard. The best.

by Anonymousreply 38April 8, 2022 1:58 PM

That’s tragic

by Anonymousreply 39April 8, 2022 2:08 PM

So much of this is heartbreaking, but she is so lovely and gracious.

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by Anonymousreply 40April 13, 2022 7:20 AM

[quote]Her father cajoled her into outrageous behavior, like stowing away on a flight to New York when she was 13. “He was wild,” Shannon said. “He’d take simple stuff like going into a candy store and be like, ‘Let’s pretend we’re blind,’ asking, ‘Is this chocolate?’”

How was he not behind bars?

"Shannon's mother, along with her 3-year-old sister and a cousin, had died decades earlier, when her father, who had been drinking, crashed the family car into a pole."

by Anonymousreply 41April 13, 2022 7:30 AM

How did Molly survive the crash?

by Anonymousreply 42April 13, 2022 7:55 AM

R42 She was asleep in the backseat with her older sister. Her younger sister must have been in the front being held by her mother. The father had two crushed legs and other severe injuries. It sounded a bit like the Biden accident and must have been about the same time period.

by Anonymousreply 43April 13, 2022 8:01 AM

Were they not wearing seatbelts?

If she was four, she couldn't have remembered much of her mother.

by Anonymousreply 44April 13, 2022 8:16 AM

R44 Just looked, she’s one year older then me, and I still remember cars not even having seatbelts and them becoming more standardized in the early 70s and then how long it took to use them consistently. I also remember multiple times quick stops and flying from the backseat into the front seat when I was around four and five, being light enough that I was just flung forward.

In the Terry Gross interview she actually says she was lucky that she had some time with her mother when she was young, remembers her very well and that she really shaped and impacted her life and was her own role model to be the fun mom with her kids. One of the most heartbreaking things was no one really told her that her mother died and what that meant. She was confused and like many children thought it was somehow her fault. There was a priest who was one of the few people who did acknowledged it and her pain and how important that was. But yeah, it’s a very different take then the Madonna and Rosie stories of Mom dying when they were young ( I think around 9 for them both, edge of puberty) and how much that negatively impacted their lives.

Even, as I mentioned above, her story contrasts very deeply with Hunter Biden’s and how much it set the stage and wrecked his life, although he grew up in a strong Catholic environment, which seems to have helped sustain Molly.

by Anonymousreply 45April 13, 2022 8:30 AM

Oh, another accident it sounds a bit like was Marisa Hargitay’s, she and her siblings were in the backseat asleep and survived, while those in the front were killed. That happened about a year earlier the Molly’s and she was 3 1/2. I wonder what she’s said about her mom and the accident?

by Anonymousreply 46April 13, 2022 8:36 AM

Was the father drinking because he had just listened to her comedy routine? I know I would want to drink if I had to look and listen to her for more than a few minutes. Basically, she killed her mother. She’s a poor man’s Princess Stephanie.

by Anonymousreply 47April 13, 2022 8:50 AM
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