WHY ISN'T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT THE CAAN INCIDENT ????

Caaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

We talked about it years and years ago.

here

Oh wow I hadn't heard of this. Well well well.

R3 nobody has apparently, it's weird

James Caan ticks off an awful lotta boxes for me.

I can see myself dangling from a fire escape trying to get to him.

We call it the Caan Mutiny here.

My mother always insisted when she knew Jimmy in his theater days he was in a gay relationship.

[quote] James Caan ticks off an awful lotta boxes for me.I can see myself dangling from a fire escape trying to get to him.

meet too (pun intended)

[quote] My mother always insisted when she knew Jimmy in his theater days he was in a gay relationship.

he's pinged to the farthest galaxy known to man and back , to me , since I was a kid paralized by his beauty. He's he definition of Hollywood bisexual Closeted A-lister the WeHo guy probably got too greedy. You don't threaten to expose Sonny Corleone, dude

James Caan is no William Holden

My dad ain’t no homo

James Caan is the best american actor of all time and he makes Bill Holden look like a turd

No Scootty, is like you, BI

It's easy to forget what a good actor James Caan was. And not always as a tough guy. Sensitive nice guy and did it well in "Cinderrlla Liberty", etc.

"Can't win 'em all!'

But why did his career go down the shitter?

[quote]"Cinderrlla Liberty"

Oh bippity boppity boo.

one of the other , numerous, Caan incidents, Scoot's cat fight in a gay bar for his boyfriend

[quote] Іѕ Ѕсоtt Сааn Gау? Тhеrе hаvе bееn mаnу dоubtѕ rеgаrdіng Сааn’ѕ ѕехuаlіtу, mаnу сlаіmіng hіm tо bе gау оr bіѕехuаl аѕ hе wаѕ оnсе аrrеѕtеd frоm а gау bаr аѕ hе brоkе іntо а fіght whеn ѕоmеоnе trіеd tо dаnсе wіth hіѕ соmраnіоn сlаіmіng tо bе hіѕ bоуfrіеnd. Вut hе hаd mаnу rеlаtіоnѕ wіth wоmеn аnd іѕ mаrrіеd tо Касу Вухbее аnd аlѕо hаvе twо сhіldrеn. Неnсе, аѕ fаr аѕ ѕехuаlіtу іѕ соnсеrnеd, hе саn bе аѕѕumеd tо bе bіѕехuаl.

R15 he had a nervous breakdown at the height of his career after the death of his sister and steered clear of Hollywood for nearly a decade. he came back with a bang in Misery, and has been working steadily since then. He's a fucking legend, devoted father, and a hunk for the ages. He has a new movie out. he 125 yo or something, still a hearthrob

R13 I haven't forgotten, How could I ever ?

Reading material for the OP.

So what happened? A gay climbed 8 stories to get into Caan's room? What a classic way to go.

He gave an interview 30 years ago, after "For the Boys" bombed; said he tried to convince director Mark Rydell that the movie wasn't for "the fuckin' fruits in the bathhouse," aka a Bette Midler musical.

Funny thing about "For the Boys" is people like it now. Its rating on IMDb is 8/10.

I recently saw "The Gambler", a movie of his from the seventies. He gave a good performance and was also very fine eye candy.

I read a Playboy interview he did a long time ago and I remember thinking what a dope he was. He said something along the lines of "women should stay at home, at least until the kids are grown." I always thought he was a good actor, a great looking guy, but very dumb.

[quote]he had a nervous breakdown at the height of his career

More like a coke breakdown. He was a drug addict and had a hard time functioning. Bad movies, then partial hiatus.

James Caan is a blue collar Jewish guy from Queens, and totally straight. He's "old fashioned," though married five or six times. A Republican and a Trump lover. Not someone I'd like to spend time with. Caan's 80-82 now and looks it. (His birthdate was once listed as1939, then 1940).

I agree with R23. I've liked many of his performances, The Gambler is one of them. He was excellent in Cinderella Liberty with Marsha Mason, and Thief (1981) directed by Michael Mann. He was very good in a pre-Godfather role with Candice Bergen called TR Baskin. Check out Slither (1973), a quirky Howard Zieff comedy co-starring Sally Kellerman and Peter Boyle.

He's a NYC stage actor from the 50's and Before he hit it big with the godfather, he was a studio star, very old hollywood hearthrob, He was divine in his 60's / early 70's movies, THE RAIN PEOPLE, GAMES, a few war movie, the one with Wayne, And RABBIT RUN. also that famous TV movie, Brian's song. He became hotter than the sun in the 70's. FREEBIE AN THE BEAN is hilarious. he was great in ROLLERBALL, FUNNY LADY, very sexy in harry and walter go to New-York. He directed a very good movie, in which he was excellent HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT. there is no way in hell he is straight R24.

25 posts and no mention of Lady in a Cage?

His carpeted chest should’ve won an Oscar.

[quote] In December 1962 Olivia de Havilland was announced as the star.[7] Her fee was $300,000.[8] Grauman signed to make his feature debut as a director.[9] Filming took place in February 1963. It took fourteen days and de Havilland called the experience "wonderful" praising the talent of James Caan.[10]

He was a wonderful fuck...I mean , actor

sex on a stick

Puleeeze, R25, do not direct anyone for any reason to Harry and Walter Go to New York. It's sooo bad, a bomb, and Caan gave it a zero rating.

[quote]He said something along the lines of "women should stay at home, at least until the kids are grown."

R23, the Playboy interview was done when 'Women's Lib' was a very hot topic in the 1970s, and asking a celebrity about it was perfunctory. Most men - celebrities and non-celebrities - were against it. "Not my wife!' was typical. My own father was obsessed with women wearing *gasp* pants. Celeb women were non-committal, they usually said "I was always liberated," or "It's okay if they stay feminine," or dumb crap like that. So Caan's 1970s Playboy response was par for the course.

[quote] Funny thing about "For the Boys" is people like it now. Its rating on IMDb is 8/10.

It’s not a funny thing because it’s only a 6.4 with only 5.5k votes.

I think he's very sexy,in HARRY AND WALTER GO TO NY, I'm not saying it's a good movie , just eye candy. There is a vey hot scene at the spa in ROLLERBALL. these two get VERY CLOSE

after the shower they go to the steam room and Jimmy lays his head on John's back if you remember

singing live with Babs

sorry I was still fapp...watching the other vid

WEHT John Back? He was pretty hot at one point.

it's WHET motherfucker...but you knew that

I think if Caan were at least bi, we would've heard of it by now from his buddy Gianni "Carlo Rizzi" Russo; that guy's got a million stories and loose lips.

That being said, Caan does have quite the bitchy streak. I remember he was asked about Bette Midler, and he said flat out that she was "very stupid", adding that it was "nothing personal, I like her. But I like my dog, too."

[quote] I think if Caan were at least bi

It's not like WeHo whores fall out his window or anything...

James Caan was completely miscast in For the Boys and the whole movie crashes because of it. I have no idea what Bette was even thinking of with that decision. George Segal, who was in a supporting role, would have been a much better choice.

Caan only started ripping apart the movie after it was opened and the critics almost universally panned his performance while Bette went on to get nominated for the oscar. This was also the second year in a row that he was in a movie where the leading lady outshined him and got accolades. Though he supposedly was great to Kathy Bates on Misery.

Bette got her revenge on Larry King where she said he could have been better.

he's a delightful partner. We fucked like rabbits in heat during all the press tour.

and he likes it ROUGH

#TBT to James Caan's Ass

R10 Scott Caan sit down and shut up. Oh, excuse me, stand up and shut up.

Scott is a pocket hunk

James Caan is like a RICH MANS

David Groh

Caan liked blonde Playboy model schicksa types, I doubt Miss Streisand held any interest for him for a second.

[quote]ames Caan was completely miscast in For the Boys and the whole movie crashes because of it. I have no idea what Bette was even thinking of with that decision.

It's because he was good in Funny Lady with Streisand 16 years prior. The real question is WHY Caan would take such a ridiculous role.

James and son.

James Caan was a huge star in the 1970s. In the Rhoda MTM spin-off series, they make comments about how "Joe" looked like him. David Groh looked like James Caan, not the other way around.

Thanks for explaining, yet not getting the joke, r48!

Saw him in the early 90s on Martha’s Vineyard. He was still very handsome at that time.

Can someone explain the article to me? Was the gay guy an invited guest in or living in the same apartment as JC or was he a stalker trying to get in?

James Caan was also very good (and sexy) in Howard Hawks' El Dorado.

I thought Scott was the gay one? And that there was some kind of incident involving James and Scott's boyfriend?

He wasn't my type when I was a boy looking at men, except for Godfather, where his intense violent masculinity made me sit up and pay attention.

There was a rumor that went around in two versions. In one, the guy was underaged Scott's boyfriend and James caught them together. In the other he was a rentboy James had hired. Both versions were word of mouth and end with James throwing him out the window or accidentally pushing him out. James managed to make sure the rumors never got printed and the net was in its infancy so the stories couldn't spread that way.

I loved his hairy chest in Funny Lady.

For some reason, I'm envisioning good chemistry (and photo lighting and special effects!) allowing Barbra Streisand to have been a better match in "For The Boys" with Caan than Bette.

And, please, re. Scott. He always comes across as being too sooo....extra.

....

I was bartending a small movie folks gathering at a studio boss's apartment here in NYC around 2004 and the first guest to arrive was James Caan (looking good). He walked over to the bar we set up and said, "Uhm, you got like an Appletini?"

I smiled and said "Sorry!", but in my head I thought, "No, James Caan, this is a catered event, we don't have that green shit for an Appletini!" It struck me as not a very "on brand" drink for tough guy James Caan! Ed Asner had three scotch & sodas and got very tipsy and loud. Everyone kind of rolled their eyes.

[quote] I thought, "No, James Caan, this is a catered event, we don't have...

What ??? THAT'S what you thought ??? I would have thought about SOMETHING ELSE

R52 the linked article says the apartment was owned by a mutual friend, that they were both in the apartment for a “short time” earlier in the evening, and that the guy came back later, took the elevator up, knocked and then climbed out a window when Cann didn’t answer. I don’t see how this could be about anything other than sex, drugs or both.

I worked on a film with him about ten years back or so. We had a small group dinner together and he was a lot of fun and a nice and down to earth guy. No attitude. He still looked handsome then. It’s sad to see how he has deteriorated recently. Not sure what to think about this story though. Hmmm.

R61, add extortion

As I have posted many times my partners dad, a Beverly Hills celeb doctor was close friends with James Caan. When he found out his son was gay he talked with Doctor Jack about how he dealt with his son being gay and wanted advice.

R64 doesn't he have several sons ? Scott doesn't ping at all

[quote]It’s sad to see how he has deteriorated recently.

That's what happens when you're over 80 yrs. old.

R66 I wanted to post that. He's scorchin for a 80 yo

The story as I recall it, was that homophobic daddy Jimmy caught his then openly gay son Scotty with the unfortunate rent boy and hurled him out the window a la Braveheart.

He looked frozen in the chair they perched him in on a CBS Sunday interview a few weeks ago, I thought he may fall off.

R65, this is the Datalounge. All hot actors are suspected to be gay.

Jimmy is not homophobic at all, nobody in HW really is, they're all bi, they make homophobic comments for the press, to reassure the fraus.He's the type who loves a good gay BJ but won't brag about it. Scott isn't into guys more than his dad. he wasn't even there, and you're not close to the dad who killed you BF

Jimmy is adored by his children (xcept his 1st daughter, who was kept away from him by her mother), that's more than my own father could say

You can't blame For The Boys on James Cann. Bette Midler creates such a toxic atmosphere on her sets that nobody can do a decent job.

I don't know why that woman has fans. She's ugly as hell, uber vulgar, and has no visible or audible talent

No mention of his delicious twitter yet ?

"Lady in a Cage" was awful. What possessed Olivia DeH to do it? James Caan looked almost preppie in it, even though he's the bad guy. Critics said things like "Utterly vile thriller with unpleasant characters." And those were the good ones. I wonder if she did "Charlotte" before or after this one.

R75 = Joan F.

R75 most all the old actresses did a few of those utterly vile horror movies, even Stanwyck.

R64 I LOVE when you tell this story! You have indeed told it many times and I never get tired of hearing it.😁 And the story has always stayed the same over the years, so it’s obvious it’s true.

Can you remind us what year that was? And what was the name of the Jewish scripture that your partner’s dad screamed out loud?

When Rob told his dad he was gay he rent his garments and said the Kadish - he told Rob he no longer had a son and they didn't speak for a year. His mom acted as a single parent to him. His dad completely changed and accepted him and me. In those days we couldn't get married. Rob's dad had thrown huge weddings for his sisters so they gave us a huge down payment on our house in Austin in place of a wedding in 1991. This was a bargain compared to the cost of a Beverly Hills Jewish wedding. One sister was a producer on many Tony Thomas-produced shows like Golden Girls and the other sold properties to stars. Rob used to watch Golden Girls being shot for TV. Tony was the son of Danny Thomas and brother of Marlo. He is still alive.

That is Paul Sheldon and he KILLED Misery Chastain.

One sister's wedding was at the Four Seasons in Maui. Rob's dad flew the entire family, friends and the wedding party there and they stayed in the hotel. I think it was where the White Lotus was filmed. His dad and the family would holiday in Hawaii every year and also in Mexico. They had a house in Palm Springs, too. Rob's dad was a golf nut and the house in Palm Springs was for golf. They were members of the famous golf club there. They used to go to Las Vegas for the shows and that's where they met the Rat pack guys who were friends of his mom and dad.

R79/R81 I LOVE your stories! What an interesting and exciting family! Are you and your partner married now? And I remember you saying in the past that your partner’s dad had passed away, but does his mom still live in Beverly Hills and keep in touch with the same Hollywood crowd?

Yes, we got married in Texas in 2015 as soon as we could. His father didn't want to die and hung on for a long time. He died before his wife. Rob took care of his mom during the last six months of her life which was almost unbearable. They sold the Beverly Hills house bought a huge condo in that building where Elton John lived. It had incredible services and was real luxury. She died at home. Yes, Rob is still in contact with some of his old friends from Beverly Hills High School and they visit when they are in Austin.

R83 So glad to hear that you guys made it legal after being together after all these years.🥰 Can I ask what made you and your partner choose to live in Austin over Beverly Hills?

As for Scott, what do you think made him “revert” and decide to have a baby with a woman/have a girlfriend years later? Do you think his dad never really accepted him and he felt the need to try to please his dad so he quit being his authentic self? It’s just so strange.

Why is it that when you fuck a woman you're a fraud and when you fuck a man, you're "your authentic self". A fuck is a fuck dudes, it's not the core of your being

R85 Go away.

My job. I lived in SF and moved from there to Austin in 1991. We visited Austin a number of times and found a beautiful historic house in a wonderful neighborhood. It took me 15 years to accept the heat, once I gave up I found peace with it. Austin was wonderful in 1991. Rob never knew Scott personally so I can't tell you anymore than what I posted. He was a younger generation than Rob. Everybody knew about the arrest in the gay bar, I remember them talking about it.

R87 I just want to thank you for sharing your stories. They’re so interesting to hear!🙂

I will post one more I have posted before. In 1991 Rob and I were invited to William Shatner's birthday party. One of Rob's best friends was his daughter. We were warned not to ask anything about Star Trek and to only talk to him if he talked to us first - which was funny because it was mostly a family event. There was a couple there who worked at Disneyland as Snow White and some other Bear character. Anyway they had been warned too. We ended up sitting at their table for dinner. We all got drunk. They kept joking with lines like "Beam me up Scotty" and they kept asking us Star Trek trivia questions that he must have heard. They spoke in Snow Whites's and a bear's voices. We laughed alot The next day Shatner complained to his daughter about how rude we were and never spoke to him, he asked if we knew who he was.

R89 😂 I don’t remember reading this story! Was it his daughter that warned you or someone else? Did she explain to him the instructions you were given?

Yes it was her. She said we overdid it and took the instructions too seriously.

WHO is Rob?

I don't know, i'm completely lost.What the fuck was that story about ?

No one is talking about it OP because your bullshit interpretation of the incident did not happen.

How did this thread go from Jimmy Caan murdering a gay hustler to the Shat shitting about Disney characters?

[quote]Ed Asner had three scotch & sodas and got very tipsy and loud.

I'm sure you wanted to offer him a scotch and spunk, but we know how he feels about that.

[quote]"Lady in a Cage" was awful. What possessed Olivia DeH to do it?

Bette Davis. Didn't you see Ryan Murphy's Feud?

[quote]Tony was the son of Danny Thomas and brother of Marlo. He is still alive.

Did he inherit the glass top table from daddy? Asking for a friend.

[quote]They spoke in Snow Whites's and a bear's voices.

Costumed characters don't speak.

We’re talking about it over on Gab!

I'm good friends with Caan's manager.

No gossip. But a fun fact.

Was he as hung as Sonny Corleone was supposed to be?

Thanks for the poster who mentioned Queen Bees. Cute film.

[quote]I think if Caan were at least bi, we would've heard of it by now from his buddy Gianni "Carlo Rizzi" Russo; that guy's got a million stories and loose lips.

Gianni Russo is full of hot air.

Bette Midler really needs her face slapped. Anyway, she is old and going to have a funeral soon.

For the Boys was basically a dog from beginning to end. The only memorable and funny bit was one of the go-go dancers in white boots getting gunned down by the Vietcong.

Were any American 'entertainers' even killed in the Vietnam War?

This really DOES seem suspicious!

Has the family of the deceased ever commented?

Scott is hawt. Goat balls on midgets turn me on.

I'm 110% heterosexual. I only go to gay bars for the music and low bar stools.

Gianni Russo once said that he had several three ways with Liza Minnelli. Liza was supposedly very sexually interested in women, and it was "okay" because a man was there.

^ THIS is why the DL men hate Gianni Russo. The very idea that their idol and man-lover Liza could have sex with women gives them agita.

[quote]Ed Asner had three scotch & sodas and got very tipsy and loud

Ed Asner didn't have three scotch & sodas, Lou Grant did.

I never found James Caan attractive. I was glad Don Barzini ordered the hit on Sonny.

James Caan was attractive, but an ugly fug.

R112 is blind

Has anybody posted that full frontal nude shot of James Caan from the early 70s.

I have it in a book - he is gorgeous. Big meat and I bet he gives a mean long fuck.

Take a photo of the book...I had never heard of this...

R114 ...

R114, that's a doctored photo, photoshoped.

[quote]he 125 yo or something, still a hearthrob

125 hissing years young!

This is as close as you're going to get as far as a "nude" pose of James Caan

I had to Google this story because R2's LA Times story was paywalled. There's surprisingly very little coverage of the details on this, not even a pic of Mark Schwartz, the young man who died. Schwartz was an actor so you would think there would be some pics of him.

[quote] James Caan was also very good (and sexy) in Howard Hawks' El Dorado.

I LOVE El Dorado and he was delicious in that role.

That's one bi family!

R120 - I was just going to say, "what about the guy who died?" Didn't he have a life and a family? Was he just erased?

In that crappy movie with Streisand (which Caan loves, btw), Caan's character says "who's the pansy?" about Roddy McDowell's character.

That about sums Caan up.

^ It's called a line reading.

But he did say the same kinda phobic comment in this interview in, of all things, Cigar Aficiando about being thought of “gay - as that awful” - though the editor seems to raise an eyebrow about “an odd death involving a young actor named Marc Schwartz. This article in Buffalo News says Schwartz was actually an acquaintance and that they’d met the day before in the apartment.

So, both he and his son --famous actors who were smoking hot in their prime--are gay? GOTCHA

^ Only if People tells you Karen

^^Only if DL tells YOU, Bruce.