Hilaria Baldwin Says She’s Culturally “Fluid”

What are her pronouns then?

I kind of respect the fact she's rolling with it, instead of backtracking and grovelling - Viva Hilaria!

She's STILL not giving this up, even after being caught red-handed as a fully American woman from deeply non-Spanish Boston.

The grift is incredibly strong in this one.

R1, yo, ella.

[quote]“when you are multi, it can feel hard to belong”

She's beyond self-parody.

If this white bitch don't shut up......

Spain is a European country, r6

So brave.

I’d like to announce that I identify as Muriel, so show me some respect.

Someone has to chase that chic down with a huge butterfly 🦋 net

She needs to do an interview with fellow trans-nationality celebrity Oli London!

I'm sure those two would have MUCH to talk about.

Hey, it makes as much sense as "nonbinaries".

She’s so totally nuts so you know the sex must be off the wall

Dlisted back on form here: "I can’t wait for little Carmen to come out to her mom as a Dickensian orphan who sometimes moonlights as Jamaican Dancehall DJ."

She's still just a cute, fit Middle aged white lady ... at best. She is no beauty and will never be.

Hilary. Fade the fuck away.

No one is buying your grift.

Why are you so delusional and desperate for attention?

Hilaria has calculated that she can both 'get away' with her ridiculous lie AND be 'down with the kids' by claiming to be "fluid".

Hilaria clearly does not realise that those who claim to be "fluid" are near-universal laughing stocks all over the world.

I am waiting for her to cry out loud “this is my truth!”

Hilarious

This crazy chica lightened my quarantine with her antics and can do no wrong. "How you say??" = points at cucumber. HA HA HA!

The cucumber interview was the BEST.

Here it is in all its glory:

From the comments in the article:

La España Dolezal needs to get off the cross. We need the wood.

GOOgumbear

I lave eeeetttt!!!!

I think she might be a version of what we used to call “third culture” kids when I taught in international schools, meaning born one place, educated in another. But her foreign identity feels performative and she got called out badly for it.

I noticed Alec Baldwin, on an interview before this cultural appropriation story blew up, pronounced her name “Eeee-lahhhhr-eeeee-yahhhh” and leaned forward with his arms spread wide, like someone coming out of a coma and speaking for the first time in years in a Douglas Sirk film, or a group home.

It looks like she found attention by co-opting a more foreign, exotic identity, and right now that’s not a great look. R6 above made me laugh out loud.

Seriously, she needs to put down the castanets and get on with her life. Do normal things like menace the nanny, chair a gala for a pet shelter, things like that. Do some yoga, maybe open a shop, like Phoebe Cates?

I must be so difficult when Hillary fills out a job application. She just doesn't know which boxes to check off.

Everyone is fluid nowadays. Just call her 'no labels Hillary."

Sounds like this "fluid thing being so hard to belong" is her way of telling us she didn't have a good time.

r24, She's not "third culture". She has two 100% American parents, was born in Boston, went to school in Boston until she went to College, also in America.

She took a few vacations in Spain because her father was a Spanish literature teacher. He taught Spanish Lit at a Boston college and then her parents bought a retirement house in Mallorca.

Although he, like her mother, has zero Spanish heritage. One of her parent's family line goes back to the Mayflower and they're both ultra white Protestant eastern seaboard types.

She's a beyond-unbelievable bitch. And for those say, "you go, gurl" to her: just go.

R29 Yikes. Then she’s all just obnoxious pretense.

Hola Hilaria! Me llamo Rachel Dolezal!

^ ^ Those two can share a cell. Good times!

It's very clear that she lied to Alec before and during their marriage about being Spanish, putting on the accent and probably using her ability to say "my parents live in Spain" (once they had retired there), which is why she cannot EVER let it go.

I've already said this somewhere else but just feel like repeating the fact that this woman is DUMB, dee you emm emm D-U-M-M.

It's very typical these days for the stupid and self-absorbed to pull the "this is how I identify" or "this is my truth" stuff to cover their asses. I feel sorry for people who say those things genuinely because the concepts have become so abused by people trying to manipulate others that no one believes anybody anymore.

Oh so what, she’s slightly pretendy. Who of us isn’t?

Hilarious Baldwin strikes again!

LOL

R20. Hillary, or excuse me, Hilaria, "always forgets" the name of, how-you-say, 'cucumber.' It happened twice in that interview. Ha!

She also said she never orders the soup when in a restaurant "in this country." Apparently, the restaurants don't use the right spices. One last thing...she learned to peel tomatoes in Spain.

She drops just enough of those leeeetle cultural ambiguities to confuse the average frau watching her in an interview.

R20. Even Meghan Markle watched that interview with Hilaria and said, "Oh gurl, I ain't even that black."

So then, that's LGBTQIA+CF.

Done!

Hilaria Baldwin is totally bonkers.

She really thought that she and her vaudeville act had escaped scrutiny!

I'm beginning to think that being insufferable is the glue that bonds Hillary and Alec together.

[quote]Hey, it makes as much sense as "nonbinaries".

Very true, R11, and an excellent point. At least you could talk about Spain with her (or she could pretend to talk about Spain with you. In any case, some fabrication wrapped around a kernel of truth or at least interesting conversational topic.

(Do they have a house in Spain! It would make the act much easier.)

They can't get a house in Spain - it would rumble her whole act to be around actual Spanish people 24/7.

I'm culturally fluid too but my pipes are clogged.

I'm beginning to change my tune about trans, non binary, and fluids.

They're playing some weird version of three dimensional chess. We're stuck with our boring, proverbial checkers.

I want in.

Then do it, r46!

It's easy: all you have to do is say it, and it is DONE.

No, R47. It can't be that easy.

I just have to say...I'm a GIRL!

Shit. It is that easy!

Gays! I'm now a straight chick. Where the straight daddies at?

She is culturally nonbinary and completely exhausting.

They are so trolling and laughing at it.

No, r50, she lied , got caught and had to explain it to Alec.

She used the fashion for binary, presented it to him and said "See?? It's a disease! Other people have it too! I really AM Spanish even though I was born and brought up in Boston!!! Now what has Consuela done with Eduardo?"

What the fuck does 'Culturally Fluid' mean?

trolling

R52 "I'm Beacon Hill uber-anglo, but I'm pretending to be Selena."

Culturally non-binary? Damn, she’s HilariAS

It means "I'm lying" in Castilian, r52.

Her reputation is fluid…. Evaporated fluid…..

If she's basically saying you can be fluid in your culture, whatever you want it to be, is there then such a thing as cultural appropriation?!

Just out of curiosity, I looked to see if the Baldwin's did indeed have a house in Spain. I couldn't find any indication that they do. Even celebrity asswipe ¡Hola! gives a tour of their house in...the U.S.

But in 2014 there is a report in a British expat newspaper based in Spain of the Baldwin's on the verge of commencing their house hunting in Madrid. (Another article in the Spanish conservative ABC newspaper also reported on the plans for house hunting; Baldwin had just wrapped shooting of Torrent 5 in Spain.)

Also in 2014, she was profiled in Vanity Fair España and the journalist from that always hard-hitting publication took a couple paragraphs to cast some doubt on Hilaria's biographical details, saying that Manhattan is a mecca for self-invention, and in that spirit she is not to be bothered with confirming her life's details beyond a few well-honed anecdotes:

"Imbuída de ese espíritu, [Hilaria] Thomas se niega a darme o confirmarme ningún dato biográfico, más allá de anécdotas elegidas con cuidado," the article said.

Following from The Olive (see link):

[quote]"I took the train to Murcia to dine with her childhood friends. We spent a few weeks in Murcia, but I love Madrid.”

[quote]He continued: “Next year we are going to come for four months to travel through Spain and the south of France. My wife loves Nice, but we would like to spend most of our time in Spain.

[quote]“I also want to visit Valdemossa (Mallorca), where Michael Douglas has a house.”

[quote]Baldwin, whose wife grew up between Murcia, Mallorca and Madrid, even insisted the local paparazzi photographers were charming.

[quote]“They are charming. Nothing like those I come across in New York.”

There's a long and richly detailed timeline of Boston Hillary as Spanish Hilaria in The Insider. Her parents do live in Mallorca, but only from 2012. The rest seems highly suspect to put it kindly. Outside of the 2014 travels in Spain, I don't even see any evidence if other visits. Granted it's entirely possibly, but given the Baldwins' seeming delight with softball celebrity profiles and Spain's gossip news, la prensa rosa for doling it out liberally and (usually) without casting the least doubt, it seems odd that they would have had a lot of private trips back and forth to visit her family without stirring up that pot.

Self-invention always interests me, but this wo.an isn't crafty about it at all. So very stupid to tell outright lies when she could have said "I have a great passion for Spain, my parents live there now so in a sense it's a second home.". The Spanish press would love her, the American press couldn't dispute her. Instead she invented a childhood and friends in Spain from whole cloth. Boredom? Mental health issues?

Hilaria is ridiculous but one thing I find irritating about people’s reaction to this story is their incredulity that someone raised in the Boston area would grow up in a Spanish-speaking household.

That’s not remotely unusual. About 15% of City of Boston households speak primarily Spanish, and there are a growing number of majority-Hispanic cities and towns in the area (Chelsea, Lawrence).

Of course, Hilary grew up in Weston, a tony suburb with a 1.9% Hispanic population. It’s the Weston part that makes the story funny.

[quote]then her parents bought a retirement house in Mallorca.

Wait. Her whole claim to being culturally Spanish is a house in Mallorca? Mallorca is Catalan-speaking! The Balearic Islands have their own culture separate from peninsular Spain, let alone Castile. Her Spanish identity is completely based on tourism!

More absurd, R60, is that she had to confess 'Yes, I am a white girl. I am a white girl." Had she in fact been from Spain, or been born in Mallorca she would be be white like 93.5% or so of women in Spain. Even she seems to think being born (to white parents) in Spain would somehow change her race to some swarthy, exotic other.

How you say...cucumber?

Still cracks me up.

It’s not often I cringe so much for someone I don’t even like, but…

She speaks shit, looks like shit, and is full of shit. She faecal-fluid.

Very, very funny, r64.

I know someone who knows her - she is Hilary from white as white Boston. Ridiculous.

R67, most Spanish people are white (and Boston is only 45% non-Hispanic white). That’s not really the joke here.

This bitch again?

My siblings get really angry when someone is traveling slowly in front of them, curse and growl. And they leave late for everything, so that adds another layer of tension.

For me, I’d never respond even to a really aggressive or poor driver cutting me off or anything like that. I actually feel like every interaction is filmed on a Ring alarm, cellphone, even traffic camera. And worse, they can clip the footage to capture and expose you in your worst state, and you can really embarrass yourself, or worse, get fired or cancelled for overreacting to something. I feel bad for people in that situation, and especially when it’s rare or unusual behavior for the individual filmed behaving badly.

It’s bad all around.

Alec looks like a fool defending this behavior and the lying. Wonder what his celeb friends thinks of this nonsense

I’m also convinced she used surrogates for all the pregnancy after the first kid. Compelling evidence on Reddit.

The whole bounce-back from pregnancy was also a grift and a lie. Amy Schumer called her out on the bounce-back which started the lies unraveling

She’s nuts, but I kind of admire how she’s refusing to be humiliated and won’t disappear. I’d be so far down a hidey-hole.

Alec has to be mortified with her bullshit.

Who are the idiots on this thread saying they admire her for not being ashamed? Then you must admire Trump, because he's never known a moment of shame in his horrible life. Good luck living in a society that accepts this kind of dishonesty and "admires" it. Would you personally like more grifters in your own life?

Who did this grift harm? It's really funny in a certain light.

[quote]Alec looks like a fool defending this behavior and the lying.

Right. If she had just had some fancy affectations that rubbed people the wrong way, well you refocus your audience, and start a lifestyle brand selling vagina-scented gift candles for $120 a pop. No (great) shame in that.

But she went out of her way to craft and maintain strange lies and behaviors to bolster complete fabrications that were certain to surface at some point.

I don't doubt that Alec Baldwin believed this shit because, well, why wouldn't he? May he figured she was a bit of an embroider, but not a pathological liar for no Dane reason.

Had she only said, "my parents live in Spain and I've always been in love with the place, from before I even knew it" she would have had la carta blanca to be be grand as she could be about her thing. Instead she let people believe that she was born in Spain, grew up there, received her master certification in flamenco in Seville, and only learned English later in life. Hence "cómo se dice...cucumber?"

If she lied so extensively on this pointless thing, Alec B. must have give some thought to what other lies she's still telling.

I can have absolutely no respect for a fool who changes her name to Hilaria. How ridiculous can you get?

She's racially nonbinary.

They are trolling.

With his sense of humor and already set for life? Keep our names out there during Covid?

They don't give a shit.

"What's Spanish for 'I know you speak English'?"

R68 not in the neighborhood she grew up in luv!

Hillary’s knowledge of Spain is limited to what you’d see in a kitschy airport gift shop in Barthcelona. Bull fighting & salsa dancing & what-not. She clearly has a very low-level grasp of the language so how’d she grift the accent?

Hilary needs a Castilian-style ass whopping for the way she’s disappeared all those Hispanic nannies from her social media while keeping her tits front & center. It appears that (& the grifted accent)are her only skills.

R82 don't forget breastfeeding in absurd poses!

I think she's intelligence fluid.

Apparently Hillary posted today that she's setting up a website and Consulting service to help other people who are fluid. She has lost her freaking mind. But her parents are snake oil salesmen too so she comes by her grifting honestly if that's even possible.

[quote]What the fuck does 'Culturally Fluid' mean?

Why nothing at all, of course.

Between the fake Spanish heritage, nonstop pregnancies and shameless marketing of her miscarriages, Eeee-lahhhhr-eeeee-yahhhh is starting to give me the creeps. I dread to think what else is lurking beneath her polished surface. She strikes me as the kind of woman who, if she couldn't have children of her own, would steal a newborn from the hospital.

... the fluidity thing is actually pretty brilliant though. The perpetually offended can't really call her out on it without looking like hypocrites.

Culturally fluid? Sounds nasty, like ethno-rrhea.

Hell, I'm fluid, too. My family is also pre-American Revolution and we've intermarried so many different nationalities over the centuries I have no ethnic identity at all. How do you reconcile Finnish and Spanish along with about ten other nationalities?

So, I guess I can just pick one and focus on that. When I get busted I'll pick another. A good friend is Italian and Irish but always identified as Italian. It was hilarious when we got to Italy he stuck out like a big old American. It was awesome to watch as he dealt with the reality that he could never pass as Italian in Italy.

The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain.

R88, not really. She's co-opting the language of the trans-liberation intelligentsia to justify her brazen, white supremacist cultural theft. It's the ultimate joust in controversy courting. How do you see it as "brilliant"?

The Baldwinos should fully commit to this Spanish grift.

Move to Spain, raise their children there, and only return once the youngest is a college freshman.

By then, Hillarious will have at least one or two Spanish recipes beyond paella on her return. Just be prepared, as she will feign not understanding English at all.

I recommend Poise for her fluidity.

I wonder what goes through Alec’s mind when he sees Salma Hyack on his tv screen when he’s stuck at home with his army of big headed white babies?

Not a problem.

I only watch things I'm in!

Oh fuck...

Thanks to R97 I will be skipping MY lunch today. Gross and creepy.

[quote]What's Spanish for 'I know you speak English'?" —Lucille Bluth

Se que hablas Ingles.

If you check out her stories, I swear she uses those big-headed bald babies as sexual props. It’s disgusting

Would it kill the family budget to hire an assistant with an art school background and a few courses in composition under her belt?

What raggedy-ass boring photos.

She's nutty and really offensive, but how is it worse, or even as bad as cutting off your dick and demanding everyone say you are now a woman? Hilaria hasn't asked for a new birth certificate or complained about being "dead named" when people call her "Hillary", has she? No, not that I'm aware of.

No, no, r17 & r35 the expression is: “this is my LIVED truth…”

Wait, uh, she never … oh, hell, doesn’t matter, just, THIS IS MY LIVED TRUTH !

"MY LIVED TRUTH"!

Ohmygawd, do people really say that? That's insane.

She looks great for having popped out so many babies but good lord that house must be like a crazy zoo. No thanks, crazy lady.

So that’s what she’s come up with. Not bad. Not bad at all.

Does she have all of her family muzzled? This lie is pretty easy to punch through - just ask the fucking fam.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree?

Hilaria's parents (Kathryn Hayward, an M.D. it seems, and David Thomas) do look to be in the business of separating fools from their money. Our maybe you can make more sense of the website for their International Integrators organization, for "thought leaders" in "learning consciousness" and movement instruction and integrative health...

Sounds like a bunch of olds having fuck retreats.

R95, Salma Hyack and Alec Balding?

Hilaria is, as you say, a cunt.

[R108] Ha that sounds like the Eddy Murphy character’s cult in “Bowfinger”

I thought the newest baby was with a surrogate but she is nursing it - I’m confused.

How many of those bebes des cabezas gigantes did she actually give birth to?

Can not keep up with the Baldwin's reproduction schedule, they are busy breeders.

R112 the surrogate was only about 4 months behind her last birth, so she's still making milk

Is “culturally fluid” Spanish for “cunt”?

There’s ample evidence (suspect baby bumps, slowed-down video of the fake moon bump lifting up) that she only gave birth to first kid.

All other births were by surrogates. There’s an insider posting on Reddit that basically said, that 2 surrogates were implanted at the same. One girl and one boy. The surrogate miscarried the girl early on. Hilary then had another surrogate implanted 4 months after the last giant head was born.

Her goal was to have “twins”, but the timeline got all fucked up.

If I can find the post on Reddit, I’ll link it, it was very interesting

Yet another example of white entitlement.

Here’s the link. Scroll down to “Futilepancake79” post. This is about the last 2 kids that were born.

On rob lowe’s podcast he had Alec Baldwin on and Baldwin did an impression of hilaria and he did it in a Spanish accent, it was bizarre considering she doesn’t have that accent when she’s speaking English in interviews.

How long ago was that r119?

September 2020 but even in this interview from over two years ago she hasn’t got a Spanish accent

Spain is a white European country so she’s not racist like some claim, if Nigerians can be English and Algerians french then white yanks can be Spaniards.

[quote] [R88], not really. She's co-opting the language of the trans-liberation intelligentsia to justify her brazen, white supremacist cultural theft. It's the ultimate joust in controversy courting. How do you see it as "brilliant"?

Because it makes as much sense for someone to ‘feel’ they’re another race as it does to ‘feel’ like they’re ‘non-binary’ or sexually fluid, with all their made-up pronouns and genders. Their attempts to make one valid and the other not look (more) ridiculous.

Can we please now and forever refer to their children as their little "pepinos"? Please?

R108 - holy shit is that a catch-all of gobbly gook meaningless phrasing and terminology!

Her parents ARE just as fucking batshit crazy as she is.