The Great Diana Unveiling Moment

I am surprised Megain isn't there. I mean, Kate was expected to get Charlotte fitted and then show up at their happy wedding weeks after giving birth. Surely the Duchess of Lumpybutt could lumber onto a private plane to honour the woman who turned her husband in the pliant mess she joined in holy manipumony.

I can’t wait!!!

I hope they are going to go for an intertwining of the mythical goddess and the real woman as one with a very classical inspired work,.

Will it be an action style statue? Diana hurling her pregnant body down a staircase?

I heard they just chopped this in half.

Meghan was probably forbidden to attend.

I think Harry will act out in some way. That's his M.O. plus he's feeling selfishly butthurt that his and Mega's demands for money aren't being met from the same people they're lying about and calling "racists". Maybe someone will slip some xanax into his tea and he'll behave like an actual adult but I doubt it.

Will we be able to see it?

He's already acting out.

"According to a Radar source, the royal family is working hard to make sure the event goes swimmingly, but Harry is causing a bit of trouble.

This is just not the way they do things. Harry won’t show them his speech and is refusing to take part in meetings or dress rehearsals,” a source revealed. “He seems to want to just wing it. To just turn up and see what happens. They don’t even know what he is planning to wear.”"

The Diana worshippers have already started building a shrine on the gates of Kensington.

Harry will announce he is going to erect his own Diana statue in Montecito and Meghan will only charge $1000 to anyone desirous of making a pilgrimage to see it.

$1250 for a selfie (but limited to one of hands, feel, elbows or earlobe.)

I wonder why Katie Keen was banned.

You know she’s chomping at the bit to cosplay Diana some more.

R13 - you're confused. It's Meghan and Harry who are obsessed with Diana.

I've never bought the cosplay charges for Meghan or Kate. Diana was photographed wearing hundreds, perhaps thousands, of outfits in her lifetime. Just about any outfit the royal wives could wear might callback to a Diana outfit in some way--color, cut, etc.

R15 Not to mention those styles look far better on tall slim trim-waisted, pretty-legged Kate than short, boxy, stick-legged Meghan.

I would believe anything about Harry, but just the same, I'd take anything Radaronline puts out with a huge bucket of salt.

Christ, Harry is aging badly. Ginges do if the hair thins. He looks pasty and ferret-like.

Imagine the merry hell at home. It would age anybody.

I’m hoping for something like this.

What's the betting it will be Diana sitting on a bench and that the Medusa of Montecito knew this when she wrote her Magnum Opus?

More like this

How do we think the Narkles will act out tomorrow?

Harry will scowl and cry at the podium while using a string of Woke Words which will implicitly admonish the BRF and center around him, Meghan, and their two children.

As for Meghan, there is NO QUESTION in my mind that she has arranged to be papped tomorrow, possibly looking SAD and FORLORN, at a time of day carefully chosen to make it possible for the photos to be published in the UK papers' evening editions.

Guest of honor at the unveiling.

Exclude doting mother part, what would the true Diana want for tomorrow. A huge scandalous fuck you to the palace or a dignified affair?

Do we have bets of Lilibet being unveiled tomorrow?

A true picture? Not unless someone is willing to stump up the multiple millions Meghan is quietly demanding for a full face picture of Lillibucks.

Although I'm sure she will be papped tomorrow with a little bundle in her arms, the face of which will be carefully obscured by a little merchable hat and cashmere baby blanket.

Uh huh 😜

Harry being an asshole prior to the unveiling. Take it with a grain of salt, of course, but if this is true I'd love to smack his fugly gob.

It’s amazing how much Meghan lives rent free in your heads.

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Did it happen, is it over?

Who cares, Diana was a train wreck.

William and Harry need to stop pimping out their dead mum for attention.

^William hardly speaks about her. It's his dim younger brother who is constantly bringing his late mother up because of him wanting to cash in on her memory.

Will little Harry be happy at last?

R33 R34 - No, and No.

^*Sorry, that should have said R33 R36.

What time is the unveiling?

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R39 2pm.

The Diana's three Spencer siblings have arrived.

Can anyone turn up to watch as it's in the park?

Harry has arrived.

Imagine all the selfies to come with that statue....

R43 - No. The entrance is through the park, but the actual gardens are behind KP and the public is not allowed in. It will only be William, Harry, the three Spencer siblings, Jamie Lowther-Pinkerton, and Julia Samuel, I believe. One "international" photographer (the UK press has been barred by Harry - that should get him and the missus lots of great PR down the road) and one reporter.

^*Oh, and the sculptor, I believe.

And tv camera

The statue is going to end up being like the Lucy one.

Fox and friends will cover unveiling.

I know. I know. But BBC has failed us. Playing Deep Space 9! 🙄

At least it’s a Fassbender reference. I wonder if they’re aware of that?

R40

Truly, it's like someone blinking from behind a mask.

I just realised the sunken garden was where they presented whole upon announcement of the engagement that launched a thousand leaks.

So watch for whatever milk can be squeezed from that happen coincidence sooner, rather than latter, I'd bet.

What I can't remember is whether that was the day she was wearing the price tag or hadn't snipped the vent stitch.

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At R53 is a link to live broadcast, sorry for the formatting. It's the UK Independent

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FOX? Really?

Good Lord. Trump's former mouthpiece?!

Well, Harry would hardly let the BBC in after they ran the Palace confirmation that Harry lied about asking the Queen re the nickname and the video call and all that, would he?

Tvs are outside the garden, they didn't give exclusive to Fox news.

(insert rolleyes)

I thought it was supposed to start at 2pm

The brothers arrived a while ago. The ceremony is likely over. If we see anything, it will be a nicely edited tape.

I think it did R59. It’s probably over now.

The statue is... not that great. WHo are those children????

The statue is pretty bad but I kind of thought that Diana would be with children. I'm not sure but those two children may represent landmine kids.

What a bag of shite, like Michael Jackson with his gang of kids when Jarvis Cocker mooned him.

There are 3 children, one is behind the girl.

It's very 90's.

William and Harry are not really know for their taste, it shows.

I don’t recall her looking that tall looking?

The brothers apart. Diana would be appalled at the rift.

Harry doesn't appear triggered, does he?

She was ppretty tall.

Well, it’s not terrible, but it’s not exactly wonderfull either, imo.

A joint statement.

The huge belt is too much, fashion faux pas.

Images of the unveiling.

I'm sure everyone is relieved that it's over.

[ quote ] Well, it’s not terrible, but it’s not exactly wonderfull either, imo.

Let me “Oh dear” myself.

🙄 I give up

Some chatting with other attendees. Harry is quickly losing his hair.

Thank God it's over, and thank God it was an anodyne joint statement, low-key, brief, and offering little to no material to the media. Too bad about the bench, though.

Other than that, the statue is awful. I get the idea they were aiming for, but of all the clothing to depict her in, they could hardly have chosen worse.

A video of the brothers greeting Diana's family members.

I'm sure the tabloids will look at that photo and scream about olive branches and healing and all that shit.

I hope William stalked away the moment the cameras were out of view.

Here's the Reuters video of the event.

Harry is aging horribly. He looks disheveled, even a bit paunchy, and that huge bald spot with the ginger frizz around it makes him look like a psychotic clown.

Diana's sisters, Ladies Jane and Sarah, have aged quite well, and it's clear that the two boys didn't get their baldness gene from the Spencers.

All nicely carried off, lots of politesse on display.

It's short, professionnal not very intimate.

I bet no one is going to stay for the tea.

Thank God, it's over and everybody can move on.

Jeez, is Harry drunk????? William looks sober and stateman like next to him.

Oh no. Children? Eccchhh

It's a disastuh!

The belt is the first thing your eye is drawn to.

The face isn't horrible, but the composition with the creepy generic children is awful.

That sculptor had one job. ONE!

Diana's face was quite manly but she was graceful.

Bronze doesn't work well for her face, a nice marble would have worked better.

It is abundantly clear that William acknowledged Harry as little as possible, looked away from him as much as possible, and that Harry kept trying to approach William and engage him with very little success. I noted that William also preceded Harry into the garden, and preceded him as they left the statue, and spoke, I think to the gardeners, and that William was always to be introduced and shake hands and chat.

They have pulled this off with no outward show of active animosity, but in my view it's clear that there is no healing here, that William was going what he had to do, and that he still wants nothing to do with Harry.

The children are silly and her dress is awful. So many stunning dresses to choose from. Sell it to Harrods.

^*was always first to be introduced and shake hands and chat.

William was on his own territory now. Harry is a tolerated guest. He no long has a place here.

Yea the blue isn't great and the outfit overdone. I see what they were going for but didn't quite make it

R82 psychotic clown LOL

Her face is ok.

It's far better than that awful Diana and Dodi statue that used to frighten customers in Harrods. Tacky, ugly, wrong.

Watching the Independent video, most of the footage was of William talking to the other guests. Harry was not in the frame for a lot of it.

I never thought William to be very charismatic, but he looks so much better than Harry.

He's the Family's Alpha now.

The statue is pretty bad.

The face could have been prettier and the belt is unnecessary.

WHET the death car? I heard someone was going to make it into a statue at one point. In very bad taste

where did William and Harry get that baldness gene from? Harry better be getting plugs soon or his Friar Tuck look will disappear. Their Spencer uncle has a full head of hair. Their grandfather Spencer did too. Prince Philip still had some hair into old age and Prince Charles still has more hair than either of his sons.

Who are those children? Just random children? Why not put William and Harry as the children. It will have way more historical significance that way.

I guess if they put themselves in it may be seen as indulgent and distracting from Diana. Plus the random kids allude to her charity work and how maternal she was.

it's St Diana of the Poor Children r100, bleurgh

R79 why is Harry holding his gut in those pics? was it to show sympathy with bump-obsessive Meghan?

I bet Harry behaved because he's scared shitless of his Uncle Charlie.

Uncle Charles was a piece of shit who exploited Diana's death for his own gain.

R99 Philip went thin on top quite early and Edward is going the same way...not completely bald, but eligible for a comb over. So, Philip’s side is where the gene is, I’d guess.

Harry and William aren't even 40 though and Philip and Edward both had full heads of hair at that age.

balding is passed down thru the mother

Did Miss Amanda Gorman contribute a poem to the proceedings?

R107 - If that’s the case, then Diana’s Dad was a baldy, I think.

Who the hell are those children?

Did Elton John rework one of his songs for the occasion, hopefully not “The Bitch is Back?”

Harry looks disheveled, can't button his coat, and perhaps drunk. But he's still hawt. I'd do him, I always go for the bad boys.

He's a drunk English lout. Sexy!

Well, at least he didn’t show up in his Nazi uniform.

I was hoping she was going to be depicted in her landmine sweeping gear.

I was preparing myself for something much worse after watching River's video compilation of Diana statues. I don't think it's bad at all. The belt, though...

It is a bizarre mashup of when she worked in a Kindergarten before she was married and her after the divorce wearing a 90s power dress.

That belt is almost as cringe inducing as the children.

William is definitely quite cold while Harry is being a bit ingratiating.

I don’t believe there will be any cosy chats at all.

Yeah, Harry seemed off-kilter, like he was drunk or high. And brown shoes with that suit??

Apparently Harry has already gone home. He was in and out, as fast as possible.

I met Diana once in person. The status isn’t as bad as I’d feared but it’s not great.

Both Will and Harry need a lengthy face slapping then to go away for a long time.

Bottom line: William looks more, and Harry less royal with every passing year.

Those aren;t children--those are her dwarf minions she's sending forth to kill.

Harry looks highly flatulent

Why did he have to pick one of her worst fashion habits, the wide belt?! She had no waist to speak of and used to wear the wide belts to give herself one, but all it did was make her look thick - her great features were her gorgeous skin, eyes, and legs. All right, maybe you can't convey a complexion or blonde hair on a statue, but the eye is drawn totally to the belt and skirt here, not to her expressive eyes and beautiful legs.

It's like the Emanuel wedding dress déjà vu: one of the great missed Diana opportunities.

R117 - You got that shit right. Coolness was coming off William like smoke off dry ice. It's going to be amusing watching the tabloids try to use that one image of them looking at each other to trumpet healing, olive branches, reconciliation . . . but anyone with half an eye who watches the whole video can see that that is bullshit.

R124 Maybe they could have her doing the Marilyn pose with her skirt blowing up, showing off those gams

That's a myth, R107. Baldness or otherwise can come from either side of the family.

klangrannies having a field day i see, go for it gurls

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Flamboyant

I hoped the statue would look like this...

Is flamboyant a euphemism for drunk?

May be, R132. He does not seem entirely sober in the vid.

The Diana statue is ok - not great but ok.

But what the fucking fuck are those kids about? And why is the third kid trailing behind, not being included in the party?

The female symbolic every-child has the face of a woman; if you removed the two male symbolic every-children it could be rebranded as an erotic Pride statue: "Lesbian Love Comes in All Sizes".

The statue close up - it doesn't look like her very much, does it? I don't care for it.

Next to that stiff prig William, a stapler would look "flamboyant"

I don't love it, either. The face is quite hard (bronze notwithstanding) and Diana was beautiful when she smiled.

The outfit is the one she wore on her first solo Christmas card photograph, with the boys. I agree... there were better choices but you can see how they could rationalise that in the design process.

I'd give it a 7 out of 10 because I'm being charitable. I'm glad it's done. She deserved to be remembered in a permanent way.

It looks like something you would have seen at Neverland.

They whittled down that ceremony as much as they could, didn't they? Twenty minutes from start to finish with a minimum of attendees. There wasn't even a dedication speech. No room for Harry to try to catch his brother in any real conversation, no way Harry could make publicity hay of this. Well done, Windsors.

I have a scoop about the text convo they had about the football......

Harry: Hey, great news about the footie, right? Reckon we might get the trophy this year!! Will: Who is this?

You heard it here first 😉

It would have been more powerful if they'd recreated Diana holding the hand of the man who had AIDS - that was her big moment and it could have doubled up as an AIDS memorial.

& it reflects much more who she was, what she did and the era she lived in.

This statue makes Diana look like a very butch Miss Hannigan.

Did she wear flat heels? I always imagine her in high heels and long legs. I guess they didn’t want to make her look too hot here.

***SCOOP*** The boy at the front of the statue is an artist's imagination of how Archie will look in a couple of years' time!

Diane would be so saddened by what's happening between her two sons. Has no one noted this?

It's official... it's a bomb....

The Times: Princess Diana statue review: Laura Ashley monument is little better than the usual tat (two stars)

The Telegraph: Kitsch and archaic, the Princess Diana statue is a people-pleasing dud

Statues are usually rife with symbols... I am sure the flats paid tribute to her marriage.

At one point Harry moves over toward William to say something and Auntie Sarah runs to William's side, presumably to eavesdrop and provide a witness to the conversation in case Harry tells more whoppers to Gayle King.

The sculptor also minimised her lovely big titties and covered her long, silky pins

The statue of Diana thst used to be at Harrods emphasized her big titties. Practically the first thing you notice with her tunic draped around them in the breeze. I didn't know the base had VICTIMS inscribed on it.

Whatever became of it once Fayed sold Harrod's?

Mohamed Al-Fayed, told The Daily Mail the statue is now displayed in his garden in Surrey.

Eugh I didn't realise they had Dodi bare chested. Enough to make you hurl in the Harrods Foodhall

It's dreadful. She looks like an 80s lesbian female basketball coach. The random children with odd faces make it creepy.

Why so literal? Why not a more classical rendering capturing her charisma, something people could appreciate in 100 years.

R154 I’ve always thought Diana had a classical face like a female Michelangelo's David. Surely they could’ve come up with something more timeless. And no children!

The Guardian is back in rare form with a nasty op ed about the statue!

When I picture a Diana statue, she’s standing in some kind of neutral dress or gown, beautifully draped. Her hands are clasped in front of her and her face shows that signature upward gaze and the hint of a mischievous little smile. Age wise she’s maybe late 80s, still an HRH. Simple.

The last piece to fall into place is the vile if precision snark of the Daily Maul's odious Jabba Moir.

Oops I meant age wise she’s in the late 1980s. Dear me.

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If the belt had just been an inch higher it would not look so out of place, but I think it generally captures her facial likeness decently, which not many other sculptures of her have managed.

R160 Yes that’s a very nice pose, nice angle and I suppose looking down avoids looking too sappy.

When you Google Diana, this is the very first picture that comes up right now, in Wikipedia. Obviously the statue depicts her look in this era (not my favorite). It’s as if this was literally the first picture the sculptor seized upon.

That picture of her walking into the Serpentine Gallery on the evening of Charles’ confession at being unfaithful should have been the inspiration. She looked amazing. The dress, the LEGS.

Picture

This is so fucked up. Why is the boy that Diana has her right hand on black? She has her back to the white boy, who looks trans.

I'm disgusted.

^ Not to mention the female pygmy standing beside Di.

The more I look at it, the more I see Prince Philip.

Fuck, she looks almost as awful as I do.

I think the vast majority of reports on H&W's "feud", and all the upset in the Royal Family of H&M, are gross exaggerations by the vile British tabloid media.

Now that Lilibet is born and the statue ceremony is over, the Sussexes will have to find a way to stir up new drama. The Jubilee is too far away to be good grist for the drama mill yet. I suppose their focus will swing towards the FF reissue and Harry's autobio now. The reality show will probably debut sometime in 2022.

Is it made out of lead? That looks to be the metal.

Jesus, who’d ever want to be the sculptor on this project? Everyone hates the finished result. I don’t think there’s a sculptor working who could carry this off.

Dream on, r169. It's far worse than the papers are letting on. Harry left 20 minutes after the ceremony. Nobody wants to talk to him after the initial pleasantries. He's no longer got anything interesting to say, and anyway, NO ONE wants their conversations to be repeated by Gayle King on CBS morning news.

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R172 I’m not a sculptor but even I can see crap for what it is. It reminds me of Jackson’s Neverland or Disney. Tacky, cheap and just plain wrong. It’s lifeless and tragic.

If Harry expected anything except a coolly polite reception in front of the cameras followed by complete stonewalling as soon as the ceremony was over, he's deluded.

Harry still looked unkempt, hair was scraggly and did his jacket not fit? Same scruffy brown shoes.

That said, Lady C guessed right that he more or less behaved appropriately, a good thing.

It was all structured to not give him opportunities to act out, very clever.

It looked like Harry was trying much harder than William to talk between them. William is a stick in the mud.

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R179 William doesn't want Harry misrepresenting anything he says when repeated to Gayle King. The way Sarah McC rushed over to William's side when Harry started to speak to William shows the Spencers were prepared to intervene if Harry pulled his shit.

Why the fuck would William say ANYTHING to Harry that wasn't absolutely necessary? Harry is a vile, vengeful, treacherous dick.

Harry is smiling crazily in many/all of the photos. Looks like he's trying, again, to make it look like he's still a well-loved member of the family bla bla bla. Evidently they've realised that the Royal Family is the only interesting thing about them and yet they persist in having Scabies issue shite (like claiming that there were MULTIPLE comments about race). So bizarre!

Well, second times a charm liked the learned with Lucy, melt this mother fucker down and let’s start over.

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William endured this abbreviated ceremony with his brother and ain't repeating it anytime soon. Doesn't matter how ugly the statue is: It stays.

[quote] It looked like Harry was trying much harder than William to talk between them. William is a stick in the mud.

Why should William talk to that cunt when he knows whatever he says will be "adapted" for Harry's next Oprah interview!?

Harry raced away so he could call Smugs and report to her every word that was said to him (plus some made up things that weren't said, after all this is Harry's Truth) so she can call up Gayle in time for tomorrow's broadcast.

Looking triggered, traumatized and grief stricken in London.

His behavior is inappropriate for a solemn occasion which recalls his mother's life and tragic death. TRF did everything it could to minimize the possibility of his acting out but they could not eliminate it altogether. The mugging, the laughing is just wrong for this. I am beginning to agree that Henry is mentally ill.

While many have turned their backs on Harry, purveyors of mood enhancing substances aren't that particular.

Drug use and mental illness often go hand in hand.

What happened with the guy friend reunion luncheon that Harry was supposed to host?

Is the sculptor the same one who created the hideous statue of Lucy in Jamestown, NY? It's very much the same aesthetic.

[quote]Harry is smiling crazily in many/all of the photos. Looks like he's trying, again, to make it look like he's still a well-loved member of the family bla bla bla.

Wonder who taught him that trick?

[quote]I don’t think there’s a sculptor working who could carry this off.

If only they'd made one of just Diana. Or Diana and William and Harry. This ghastly shite they've produced is a bona fide abomination.

I love how the genuine POC sitting directly behind her in r196's picture is openly staring at her and most definitely NOT smiling.

I get that bronze is a difficult medium to work with and perfect true-to-life features (such as facial expressions) were not to be expected. But this is a bit of a disappointment.

It's the body, imo. It isn't Diana at all, who was tall, leggy and willowy. This figure has stumpier, shorter legs. That hideous belt wouldn't be such a problem if it was cinched tighter and a good two inches higher on the waist, where it would have been in real life. It would have elongated the figure. Was Diana as busty as shown here? This makes her look matronly, which she was decidedly not.

Otherwise the sentiment is fine (Diana as charitable child protectoress). I like that she is standing up, facing forward, and not sitting. The figures of the children are incidental.

[quote]Did she wear flat heels?

When she was married, all the time. Not flat, but very low heels so as not to be taller than Charles. Because she's very tall her feet are very long, and so the low heels looked like flats and made her feet look even bigger.

Once she got divorced she hopped into stilettos, which flattered her legs and made her feet look much smaller.

I think this was the image that might have been used for the statue.

But in the photo, because she is standing behind the sofa with her black skirt/slacks, the huge buckle is not such a distraction as it is on the statue.

I don't understand the choice of the huge decorative belt and fussy detailed blouse. Neither are associated with Diana or her fashion sense, and they lend an odd distracting look to the piece. I guess the sculptor wanted to add some texture to the figure somehow?

One of the best ones yet, particularly the last half hour.

They should have gone for something more abstract and symbolic, hell a giant bronze English rose would have been a possibility they couldn’t fuck up.

The little boys in the statuary are wearing short shorts, both the favored one in front and the ignored one in the back. Is the boy in the front supposed to be Wills and the one in the back Harry? At any rate, how veddy, veddy upper middle class aristocracy. The boys in shorts.

R205 And the girl is the miscarried child from throwing herself down the stairs at another time?

r205, the boy in the front is black.

Unless the sculptor has a more serious problem with facial likenesses than is already indicated by his rendering of Diana's face, I'm reasonably certain the one in the front is not William.

So is the overall opinion that it's not very good but not a total disaster like the first Lucy statue?

The black boy in shorts look like Diana rescued him from a plantation!!!! What kind of outfit is that???

R209, LOL! Lord forgive me but I thought the same thing.

I'm going to hell, right?

The sculptor in that Lucy Jamestown statue admitted in interviews that he got it all wrong and offered to redo it for free. But they'd had enough and hired somebody else. The new statue isn't brilliant but it is a decent piece of public artwork, suitable for its purpose.

^ its purpose to honor Ball.

Oh god, in some photos/angles/lighting, I'm getting "Tan Mom" vibes in the face and neck.

The more you look at it, the worse this mess gets. The kindest thing would be to hope someone defaces it, so they can "haul it in for repairs" and never let it see the light of day again.

It's slightly elevated from something at Neverland Ranch, but it is fine and the ordeal is over. Wills made it through. Very smart to not have a word spoken. They were taking no chances. It was set up so that there was always a buffer between Will and Harry. The video conveys the truth of that relationship, which is that Harry is frozen out. Harry has continued to gain weight since the Oprah interview. It looks like he doesn't have a valet to put his outfits together or make sure things fit. He looks unkempt. Maybe that lads luncheon turned into a night of hookers and blow.

Harry looked drunk. WTF?

The sculptor Ian Rank-Broadley is actually very good portraitist usually, though his metier is perhaps low relief, profile work (he's done a lot of coin and medal portraits, including the Queen). It would have been better to have a large portrait plaque of Diana, with a 3-D sculptural scene of something appropriate below.

Harry ran away because he knows every word he says will be leaked to Dan Wootton.

The toxic racist royals are the ones who’ve spent the past three years leaking private conversations to the press. Harry gave one single interview finally telling his side and he gets demonised for it?

There’s a reason Melissa and Jason were both fired.

Good God almighty, who is that embarrassing hick doing the narrating on that video at R181?

R217 is the perfect example of what happens when you're completely out of touch with reality.

William a stick in the mud?

Oh my sides!

He managed to behave with dignity and class and behave with controlled civility in a massively tense public appearance with the brother who betrayed their entire family. Especially William's wife.

Just 2 weeks ago Harry's mouthpiece Omid Scobie leaked another piece of attempted smearing with that "one of two future Heads of State" claim. One of those 2 future Heads of State is William. The ccx article was an attempt to blunt the bullying investigation that was mentioned liberally in one of Lacey's excerpts in the TIMES.

And someone expected William to be warm and fuzzy?

William was amazing. Without making a fuss, William's cool politeness told the world where Harry stands, as did the Spencers.

Harry's desperate attempts to persuade the world that he's back in the royal gold were pathetic and failed.

William looked like the Man of the Hour.

Harry looked like an organ grinder's monkey.

No meeting with the Queen, no meeting with his father, no traction with William.

The thing was a well deserved PR bust for Harry. William looked every inch the future King and the man in command of the situation.

Both families let the world know where Harry stands: OUT.

^*royal fold (not gold)

It really isn't bad, which it could have been. I would even not be surprised if over the years ir comes to be loved. Very appropriate for a piece of public art in that setting.

Not that I think it is great or distinguished!

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R82 The male baldness gene is carried through the mother. So, yes, Harry & William did inherit the baldness gene from Diana.

No it isn't, R224. That is a complete myth. It can come from either side.

R53, the back of the heads shot is tragic yet hilarious.

And the statue is ugly. Doesn't look like Diana at all.

Wasn't Harry constantly taking the piss out of William due to him losing his hair?

Karma is a bitch, I guess.

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I’ve seen a few statues of 20th century figures that move me: FDR at his DC monument, with a coat fashioned like a cape and an oversized Fala at his side and Churchill looming outside of Parliament. Both made me tear up and I don’t weep at art.

The Diana statue is fine but not moving. It doesn’t capture why most of us loved her— we didn’t love Saint Diana— we loved nutty, madcap Diana who was deeply flawed but deeply loveable because, through it all, she was authentic and empathetic to the masses. Not sure how to capture that in a statue, but this misses the mark.

Because there is no vulnerability or, alternately, kindness or humility. The face is stern. That is not Diana as we knew her or remember her. He should have gone with the face from the Christmas card... sort of wistful, staring into the future and past, wondering what might have been of a life half lived. Representations of the things that mattered to her, children, the ill, the elderly, the lonely could have been integrated into the base.

I still say you stare at it enough that nose starts summoning Prince Philip.

When did this project start? 2017? Then Meghan had a hand in its design, which might account for its blandness. I don’t think it’s awful but there’s nothing unique or emotionally resonate about it. Looks like exactly what it is—a statue created by a committee that destroyed any “art” by agreeing to something that no one loves or hates. A statue that stirs no emotion. Just like Meghan’s “acting” skills.

Not a hit. Not a true miss. Just a blah designed to be a centerpiece in millions of frau’s Instagram stories. Not exactly built for the ages.

That picture at R201 says everything about her relationship with her sons, doesn't it? She's staring lovingly but wistfully at William, the golden boy with the future on his shoulders. Harry is a little further away, looking hopefully at his mother but not the focus of her attention at all.

I think that is where his deep hatred of William originated, R232. The way he followed him and stared yesterday seemed deliberately provocative as did the joking about how to do the unveiling.

On a positive note, if Well Child moved the event from September to accommodate Harry, maybe he will not return for Diana event 2.0?

He had to be drunk or on something. His behavior....

It would have been so much better if they’d done what they did to Evita and stuff, taxidermy her and put her under glass for people to come see. Hell they did that to Mother Cabrini why not her?

Well, thankful it won’t ever end up in the National Portrait Gallery to stink up the place?

One wonders what Henry Moore or Jacob Epstein would have made of the commission, or hell, even going continental with Giacometti?

One wonders what Rachel Whiteread, the greatest living living British sculptor, would of made of the commission? Most of her work is about the voids, spaces under chairs, interiors of houses. Perhaps she could have done the interior of the Mercedes Benz from the night she died. It would be very controversial at first, but probably going on to be a great work in the history of art. I also would have liked it to be a very modern or contemporary piece as a big fuck you to Charles who’s all still embedded in more classical looking things especially architecture.

The members of the public who are sentimental Diana fans would be outraged. This statue had to be traditional. Forty or fifty years from now they could do avant-garde, if anyone still cared. There are several statues of Sissi…

If you ever took a good look at Diana when she was alive it was obvious she was not a great beauty. She had a big nose and was quite mannish about the face. Makeup helped to soften the hardness of her face. I think the statue looks very much like her. I also think the color of the statue adds to the overly masculine look of the piece. I would have rather seen it done in white or pink marble.

R240 Or we can get one of the world famous or Youtube makeup artist to add a little color and contour to her face? Perhaps seasonally? I’m sure there’s some makeup company that would sponsor it, Jeffree Star could really use a win about now, and it can be like “from one Queen to (almost) another Queen,” the campaign practically writes itself!

I don't like the Diana statue. The face is not hers. The belt is horrid. The children are generic. However, the statue does seem to look better from behind. Go figure.

R234 Harry’s always been a loose cannon.

R243 Yes, yes he has, and that’s why we love him.

The statue is awful. It's the type you would see outside a sports stadium. Her face is mannish, and the entire piece drips in sentimentality.

R229 Yes! I love the FDR statue with his dog, Fala. The whole memorial was beautiful and very moving.

I also love the Depression breadline statues.

It hard to do statues and portraits of young, reasonably attractive people. There's less to work with. The elderly make great statues..

" When did this project start? 2017? Then Meghan had a hand in its design, which might account for its blandness."

damn, the fucking klangrannies are amazing. Megan is trash and totally despised and shut out by the royal family, but by her dark magic, she gets to design the statue?

Harry was invited to this because he had to be. I don't see any Royal invitations coming their way at any time in the near future, especially after the redone Finding Freedom and his autobiography come out. Those bridges have been burned to ash.

Good god, what boys wear short pants in the 21st Century? Can we get someone from the BLM movement to tear it down?

The statue needed to be marble and created by an Italian sculptor whose style is like Emilio Fiashi and Rafaello Monti.

Below is Fiaschi's work. I like the 2nd statue and the woman on the lamp. Obviously Diana's statue wouldn't be nude.

The Klan Grannies are totally fixated on Meghan. They think about her every waking second.

Psychosis in action.

R253 - And you have a fixation on the so-called Klan Grannies. Are they little people who fly around in your head? Run along and play.

I wonder if they avoided marble because the statue would be outdoors. Doesn't marble disintegrate over the years if exposed to the elements?

Hard to do "statues of young, reasonably attractive people..."

Have you never seen Michelangelo's David?

The statue from another angle.

River

Body language

Harry reminds me of teenagers leaving home, thinking they're really adult now. "You're not the boss of me", and being as obnoxious as possible whenever they're around.

Of course, they still want to borrow money all the time, and move back in with mom & dad if they aren't doing so well conquering the world.

Harry, still in juvenile mode, no brakes from the BRF, acting out every chance he can get. How did he ever manage to behave in the old days, for TTC, Remembrance Day and all?

What are "pants"?

r260 he's infantile and was spoiled by his Daddy and married a fellow infantile who was spoiled by her Daddy and voila! the Harkles were born!

Harry’s got a 100 million Netflix deal (while William tried desperately to get a tiny Netflix deal for his mental health documentary series and got REJECTED lol) and can get world leaders and the biggest celebs in the world on the phone, while William is being snubbed and mocked at the BAFTAs and whinging about how every single celeb they approached turned him down.

R263 is now indulging in Harkle fanfic. Please take that back to Lipstick Alley. Thank you.

R263, drugs are bad, mmmkay ...

Harkle fanfic is way more entertaining than they are . so go little soldiers move move move!!

Somebody tell the Harkle fanfic writer Prince William wasn't present at the BAFTAs this year because of Prince Philip's death.

Even if some of you don't like River's ramblings, you should really watch his video @R258. He gives a spot on imitation of Diana with blonde wig, doe eyes and all. Who knew?

It's idiotic to say that the statue looks like crap because of Meghan. I'm not a fan of hers, think this whole thing is a messy soap opera, but Jesus Christ, some of you would say she caused Cosby's release and and the Miami condo collapse.

obviously you underestimate the awesome power of the evil dark princess, gurl got powerful voodoo going for her -

Those weren't actual portraits of real persons, R256. Idealised non-specific beauty is no problem..

Elderly stupid DLers are so easy to troll cause they still don't know how trolling works.

Someone comes on and makes an obviously insane provocation, i.e. Megan is responsible for the ugly statue. Most sane, and even slightly intelligent people, would ignore that as trolling. But no, not on Datalounge. People respond and it derails the thread. Here's another trick, if no one responds the troll can go on another device and express outrage at his original statement and then reply to that. That gets the ball rolling on DL.

R257 - I'm still seeing Prince Philip in the nose and the cheeks, especially.

Another thread bites the dust because of MM freaks on both sides of the aisle.

There is a thread about NYC in the 80s that I am fairly sure hasn't had any mention of MM in it yet, go on over there and spoil it too. Why not?

At R257 her right arm looks ridiculously longer than her left arm.

Diana could pass as a beauty from many angles. They should have had her in the "Revenge Dress". She had great legs and boobs.

R273, I think I see more of Ronald Reagan in the face rather than Prince Philip.

The Princess Diana statue face is a Rorschach test of sorts.

Fun fact: Diana wasn't wearing a bra when she died!

That Harrods statue was better.

That Harrod's statue was hideous, propagating the lie that Dodi meant anything to Diana apart from a "fun" summer holiday.

Mohammed Al Fayed was obsessed with lying about Diana, like she was so tawdry she'd get pregnant a few weeks after meeting someone and that she would drop from being in love with an outstanding Heart Surgeon to his waster playboy son. Give me a break.

If we're honest, Dodi was showing Diana off like a trophy that summer. He demanded they go to The Ritz for dinner instead of staying in, as she wished. He loved the attention and playing the Big Man. He masterminded the stupid decoy outside the hotel, then told his drunk driver to lose the paparazzi by speeding up..

[quote]Fun fact: Diana wasn't wearing a bra when she died!

Bonnie Franklin wasn't wearing a bra when she lived.

Do we know if Diana and Bonnie were friends?

Diana was a huge Linda Lavin fan. Lavin sang "There's a New Girl in Town" at her funeral.

Diana didn't have any panties on either. She was wearing a kind of bikini thing underneath her outfit

This bust of Diana the Goddess of the Hunt looks more like Princess Diana.

true, but they could have just used this one, nice boobs

[quote] Harry looked drunk. WTF?

Nonsense. He was just showing the world he could still smile in the face of racial adversity.

Diana really had a great body which got better as she got older. 2 kids later she looked damn good. Not a dent of cellulite. Didn't look starved or overly worked out. Agree she had great boobs and as discussed, great legs.

God Charles, you were/are such a fucking cunt idiot asshole.

I think the true Diana unveiling was the picture of her in a flimsy skirt without a slip.

A bust would've been a better idea. She then could've been captured more intimately, rather than in this strange action figure pose, surrounded by random children.

I’m obviously not talking about the most recent BAFTAs, dumbass at r267.

Did you miss the headlines about Will and Kate being snubbed and mocked at the BAFTAs a few years ago? Was all over the press here.

They are deeply unpopular and basic failures outside of Daily Mail readers.

I'm obviously someone with no taste but I liked it and especially the anonymous children. Her charity toward children is what endeared her to the British public. (The British public is very sentimental.)

Silly, R286. Diana never wore a scrunchie!

Or perhaps he just wasn't superficial, R289.

Living with someone borderline is exhausting and it does not really respond to treatment. Psychiatrists were summoned on the honeymoon, yet years later she was calling married men hundreds of times per day.

I can't believe certain entities even gray cancelled Diana.

R269 Honey, I’d be calling this man a hundred times a day and stalking his fine, fine ass. Girl knew exactly what she was doing. I just don’t understand the giant wombat or whatever on his uniform?

As a big fuck you to Charles, they should have chosen one of those classic poses from her much maligned birthday dance she did for him.

A meme - the guy looks familiar but I can't think of his name. Anyone know?

R300 That would be my teen heartthrob, especially shirtless in white overalls, Dirt Benedict, of the sexy but disturbing Ssssssssssss, Battlestar Galactica and A-Team!

R301 - thank you. The name eluded me but I remembered his face.

[quote]her much maligned birthday dance she did for him.

An idea so inappropriate and so cringey I had a hard time believing she actually did it.

Loved her, but when she got it wrong, she didn't do half measures.

R301 Aye, sorry that should be Dirk, I think spell check took over- sorry Dirk!!!

R292 Celebitchy obese homophobic middle-aged black frau alert.

[quote]An idea so inappropriate and so cringey I had a hard time believing she actually did it.

I guess Wayne Sleep was too fawning to talk her out of doing it?

Are you a liar, a mental patient or just really stupid, R292?

Yes, R306, I expect he was.

Kate should get a restraining order on R292 but as she hasn't gotten off her sofa in Detroit in 20 years, I don't think she's much of a threat.

r305 - Klan Grandmaster posting from a trailer park in Alabama.

I work a stone throw from Kensington Palace and Kate is patron of my former workplace, so Im pretty sure she’s fine with the fact some Brits don’t like her husband.

Not sure why Yanks get so outraged about it…

Why did they hire an artist who has no experience creating beautiful statues of women?

R312 Why, what does he usually sculpt pets, cause I see some horseiness in there.

He did Josephine Baker,I really like this.Not sure why he failed so get any joy or life into the Diana one.

The artist usually makes decent sculptures of men. The proportions of his statues of women and children are sometimes wrong and sometimes they look unflattering.

R315 They just should of used that one and called it a day.

The lank hair, masculinised face, the sheer joylessness of the piece, combined with the truly ugly choice of clothing, is enough to make one weep for What Might Have Been, given that Rank-Broadley has shown he can create beauty.

The two greatest opportunities for iconic creation around how Diana looked were this statue and her wedding dress. And in both instances, the result was massive failure.

The Emanuels had some excuse: in the 1980s, fluffy, romantically over-embellished wedding gowns were IN. It doesn't totally excuse lack of some restraint on their part in carrying out the style, but it does offer some reason for the direction they chose.

For the statue, there's no such rationale. There's none of her radiance, none of her femininity, the blouse looks slovenly, the wide-belt look was one of her worst and quickly dated, no representation of her enormous eyes and magnetic smile . . . even when she was meeting with underprivileged children, she smiled at them for the most part. Only in a couple of photos that I remember when embracing a doomed child can I remember looking so sombre as she does here.

As stated at first in this post, though, what is really missing is the joy she spread; there is nothing to smile about with this statue. It's a shame.

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Not clicking on a DM link but there’s a sculpture park in Oslo full of the most insane statues. The one in the link looks like one of the ones there.

[Quote]An idea so inappropriate and so cringey I had a hard time believing she actually did it.

I remember feeling second hand embarrassment at the time it happened. I was surprised when Tina Brown recounted in the Diana Chronicles that she received an ovation and some ridiculous number of curtain calls. The audience ate it up.

Has Meghan instructed Harry to smuggle the statue back to America so it can be placed in their garden at Montecito?

the dark princess can use her magical juju powers to levitate it across the atlantic

Is there a video link of the birthday dance?

R323, here's a bit.

R321 No one wants that ugly statue.

Thanks, R324, yikes.

r324 Only stills, is there actual video that made it out? I guess not or we would have seen it by now. Thanks for posting the link though. Interesting to hear his recount of the evening.

Is the reenactment bit from last season of "The Crown" fairly representative of the real thing?

Diana's "dance" on stage showed her for what she was, the ultimate attention whore. It's no wonder he finds that quality in Meghan comforting and familiar.

By the time Diana made her "stage debut", she was already the most recognizable woman in the world. Even a sneeze from her would garner attention, but she wanted all eyes on her at a public performance where she was supposed to be a spectator and not a participant. Very un-royal and pathetic. Even Grace Kelly knew she could not return to performing once she became a princess.

Diana would claim that she did it as a surprise for her husband. Many people were stupid enough to believe it. It was a totally self-serving action. Royals do not like public surprises, let alone one from a wife whose dramatics were already wearing him down. She knew he would not like it, but that her public would.

It was a charity gala for the Friends of Covent Garden. Granted, her dancing wasn't as classy as The Grand Knockout Tournament.

R324 “Leave them wanting more.” Those were prophetic words.

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Harry was (surprisingly) smart to wear a cap for those photos ^^^^^

I’m surprised he came back so early, I would imagine he’d wait until after the 4th of July, that’s got to be an awkward time for Brits, especially if your a member of the royal family.

[quote] It was a charity gala for the Friends of Covent Garden. Granted, her dancing wasn't as classy as The Grand Knockout Tournament.

Members of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother's Household say it was the only time they ever heard her shouting in anger at her grandchildren. After viewing the debacle on television, the Queen Mother summoned Edward, Andrew, and Anne to Clarence House and blasted them. She never gave Andrew's wife Sarah hell for it explaining later that she didn't expect any better of Sarah, so she wasn't angry at her.

[quote]After viewing the debacle on television, the Queen Mother summoned Edward, Andrew, and Anne to Clarence House and blasted them

But Gran, it was Edward's idea. Mummy let him think he could be a telly producer.

I seem to recall that the Inappropriate Birthday Dance was to Uptown Girl. You have to grant her, that's pretty funny.

R337 I don’t know anything of what the British think of Billy Joel, what was the humor for them?

......

Further to R332, why is Harry stimming himself with his hand on his nipple in the fifth and sixth photos?

I thought he was anxious and needing to calm himself on his way TO London, understandably given his recent behavior, awful reviews, and his disastrous appearance at his grandfather’s funeral?

But on the way home? Why would he need to reassure himself about his reception in Montecito yesterday?

R339 It's becoming ever clearer that the twin engines of HMS Harry Windsor are his hatred of his brother and his fixation on the lost Mum who, in reality, favored that brother.

He can't hate beautiful dead Diana, out of reach in life because William was always in the way, and then snatched away by death. So William is the funnel for all Harry's inchoate rage.

I would venture to guess that Harry doesn't love Meghan nearly as much as he hates his brother.

In "Brideshead Revisited", the self-exiled Lord Marchmain's Italian mistress tell Charles Ryder that Lord Marchmain does not love her, "not one little bit", but that she serves, instead, as a barrier/weapon against the hated wife he left.

I think we're looking at something like that with the Sussexes.

Has anyone covered back up this car crash yet?

I think he hates his entire family, look at the way he has treated his elderly grandparents. Streaking at his father's birthday party was also an extremely hostile act. Spaths really like to take control and ruin happy occasions and holidays, the humiliation of his father and brother was an added bonus. Harry and his wife are extremely disturbed people. Harry was off and a rager well before his parents split and before his mother's death.

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I remember pre-Meghan how Harry used to look at Kate like he was in love with her. That would fit in with the jealousy of his brother and also Meghan's OTT jealousy of Kate.

Prescription or otherwise? Flamboyant or high as a kite?

Seriously, this thing looks like it was made out of lead, what is the metal?

I believe it's in bronze.

Wonder what Haz was up to most of Thursday and much of Friday?

Prostitution whores.

I love this pic - I wonder if they were teasing her?

R349 Hoovering the blow off the coffee table in Frogmore Cottage.

Off topic:

I enjoy when River refers to Montecito as Montashitto.

R353 J'adore River.

Where's River? on YouTube?

Yes, r355, YT. He has two channels an ASMR one and a Royal Gossip one.

I absolutely love River. Hope he’s on here somewhere 😘

His Diana impression on the recent vid was spot on.

Oh, did Harry have exclusive use of Frogmore when he was there?

Anyone have any info on River from YouTube? Is that his real name? What's his profession? How old is he? I'll take anything you have to offer.

[quote]I absolutely love River. Hope he’s on here somewhere 😘

Oh he's here. I've seen a few posts that I'm 99% certain are his, same tone, grammar, phrasing and attitude.

r359 he's said he used to work a day job, then work as a nightclub bouncer in Kensington/SoHo/wherever at night. This was a while ago. He has friends who've worked in London theater, and I think he's maybe had some experience himself in that area.

He also said he worked for a famous black guy who had been knighted.

Lots of black men have been knighted, of course but other than Lenny Henry, I can only think of sportsmen & diplomats, politicians.

Any actots, writers, directors spring to anyone’s mind?

Steve McQueen got knighted - the black filmmaker, not the dead actor.

whose sword got the honor of tapping?

[quote]Wonder what Haz was up to most of Thursday and much of Friday?

I'll bet any remaining time he had was spent with his barristers, with Meghan on speaker, discussing 'strategy' on any number of their frivolous lawsuits.

[quote] In "Brideshead Revisited", the self-exiled Lord Marchmain's Italian mistress tell Charles Ryder that Lord Marchmain does not love her, "not one little bit", but that she serves, instead, as a barrier/weapon against the hated wife he left.

R341 Here it is...

R338, that she was the most uptown girl in the entire world.

R362 Ah, yes. Could be him.....River may have worked on one of his productioms.

R365 - Ah, thank you! BR was definitely one of the highest points of public television programming ever. Marvellous cast, as well.

Factoid: the actress who played the young Cordelia wasn't quite as young as all that, and ended up married to Charles Sturridge, who directed BV. Their son, Tom Sturridge, also an actor, did a very creditable job on the role of the doomed Henry VI on the "The Hollow Crown" series.

^*directed BR (not BV)

I noticed this too

Good catch, R371. I noticed that, too, and thought it must be an optical illusion, or trick of perspective, or something. It never occurred to me Harry might be wearing lifts. You gotta laugh.

Curious if true

Hmmm. “Harry’s been writing speeches all his life”? Bollocks.

And I don’t believe HM would have intervened on this...it was William’s day to take charge of, I think.

R371 lol maybe he had his Cuban heels on?

In the photo at r371 it looks like they are walking down steps and Harry is one step below William.

We know he wasn't wearing lifts at the memorial unveiling because in his anxious faux-jollity he kept sticking his right foot out and resting his leg on his heel so we had a detailed view of his ugly brown shoes, and they were not lifts.

He seems fucking retarded.

Diana on the Hello cover. A photo with three children resembling the statue.

R378 she looks like one of the kids just farted and she can smell it on that cover

More laughs from Lady C.

Lady C's laugh is so creepy.

She's batshit crazy but has few well placed sources. Not as much as she wants us to believe but she has had some nice scoops.

I must j'ADORE Lady's C's lovely little dog.

Miki is very cute but she knows she's crazy. She side eye her and refuse to be part of her videos.

Is she truly batshit crazy or does she play up British eccentricity as part of her brand?

Nah, she's crazy. Doesn't mean she's wrong tho. She had meghan's number from Day 1.

Lady C definitely knows that people have noticed her unusual laugh. Recently her videos have begun with her just laughing at nothing.

[quote] she has some nice scoops

Like what, exactly? What has she said in her videos that a) we didn’t know before and b) turned out to be true?

Nothing. She reads forums like this and Tumblr, then presents the info as “I’ve heard”.

Ridiculous.

Meghan acting bereaved over the uncle she ghosted the moment after he got her that internship in Argentina (by pulling stings after she flunked the exam), is unbelievably foolish on her part.

Because the next question on everyone's lips will be, So why weren't he and his wife invited to your wedding, along with half a dozen celebrities you never met?

^*strings (not stings)

R386 isn't she laughing about the tunes played at the very beginning of the videos? The songs usually have got something to do with one of the topics discussed in the video.

R388, she thinks people have already forgotten about the wedding guests and her relatives not having been invited.

R387, are you aware of her many books written on the BRF? It's not like someone in NJ sitting in his mother's basement. She moves in certain circles, as do her children, and hears things, undoubtedly. I think she was likely FED the Anne story. Every side needs a mouthpiece at times.

R391 Narcs love a funeral

Yes, R392....but I am specifically talking about her videos about Meghan & Harry. Past glories are irrelevant.

Tell me one thing...just one...that she shared that a) we didn’t know before and b) subsequently turned out to be true.

Just one.

In her last video she talked about Harry dissing some kid at the Well Child event...with exactly the same information that had appeared in a Tumblr post 4 days earlier. She’s done this before.

People with real contacts don’t go to fucking Tumblr. Obviously.

She’s full of shit, but probably earning a few quid on Youtube because irrational idiots are willing to believe whatever sha says.

I imagine she gets info from a lot of sources, including those she used for a BOOK on Megan and Harry, published, what, 2 years ago? Hardly in the past.

If you do not like, do not watch, simple as that.

She pimped the Queen Mother as the cook's daughter story... there is no way the RF would touch her with a ten foot pole, or wink and nod at any friends to do the same. If they want something out there, it's the newspapers not this entertaining if increasingly longwinded lady.

Not sure why you are so emotionally triggered by her that you need to keep posting, just don't listen, R396. Simple as that.

No one says the BRF gives her informations, just that she may hear some gossips.

Those people have nothing to do but gossip all day long.

Even if I think she reads tumblr a lot she can have some real juice from time to time. And she doesn't buy the conspiracy theory so I give her some credit.

^ She regularly mentions "royal circles" which, to Americans, may be synonymous with British royal circles - whereas the reality is probably closer to minor European royalty whose ancestors were deposed 100 years ago.

Maybe find another hobby besides fixation on vids you claim to loathe, R399. With things opening back up, great time to expand your entertainment horizons.

Oh grow up. Anyone can talk about whatever they like on here.

And there’s two of us objecting to Lady Codwallop on this thread, brainaics, not one.

It is duly noted that none of you can actually demonstrate a single “scoop” from her...so I rest my case 🤷‍♂️

^ That was my first contribution to the Lady C part of the discussion, R400. Personally, I'm an inveterate fan of her videos but I don't put any stock in them.

R401, start a new thread, going on and on is just boring. If there are 2 of you making similar posts, even more reason to take it elsewhere. If you have made your point why bang on the same point over and over and over again? If you are so full of ire, why watch? Why post? Summer is a beautiful season to get outdoors.

The Narkles have gotten so boring, one trick ponies.

Think that is the common sentiment, R402, can't put too much stock in any of this, it is entertainment and gossip.

These threads are getting really boring with lots of repetitive posts, DL usually does better.

Meghan wailing about her uncle on social media reminds me of Nicole Kidman's character in To Die For attending her husband's funeral with a boombox and playing "All By Myself" as he's lowered into the ground. No real emotion at all, just a gauche, empty grasp at attention.

In fact, aside from the murderous tendencies, Meghan reminds me a LOT of Suzanne Stone. Superficial sexiness, superficial emotions, seething ambition, empty intellect.

Narcs love a funeral, R406, all that emotion, all that grandiosity, all that grasping for attention, they are in their element. Uncle Mike was just a thing to exploit for opportunities and now for attention. She is just awful. The film sounds fun.

To Die For is a fantastic portrait of a stone narcissist, R407. I highly recommend it.

[quote] She pimped the Queen Mother as the cook's daughter story... there is no way the RF would touch her with a ten foot pole, or wink and nod at any friends to do the same. If they want something out there, it's the newspapers not this entertaining if increasingly longwinded lady.

The daughter of the cook story really was absurd and I don't know why she ran with it. The story supposedly began with the Duke of Windsor who hated his sister-in-law after the Abdication. He and Wallis referred to the Queen Mother as "Cookie" as she resembled a "fat Scottish cook", later suggesting she was in fact the daughter of a "fat Scottish cook".

Lady C. has encountered several members of the Royal Family at events, and they tolerate her, but are definitely not friends. They sure as hell wouldn't share any family news with her. She IS good friends however, with several Romanovs, members of the Serbian (Yugoslavian) Royals, and with a couple of the Romanian princesses.

Nicole was brilliant in To Die For, if 1995 wasn't such a competitive year she would have got an Oscar nom. If she'd been nominated in 94 she deserved a win.

[quote]The daughter of the cook story really was absurd and I don't know why she ran with it.

You know exactly why. $$$$. She writes books to sell, not to dust.

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[quote]Narcs love a funeral

Maybe not. Someone else is always the real centre of attention.

In the wise words of DL icon Alice Roosevelt: "My father wanted to be the baby at every baptism, the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral."

I don't think so, R390. It sounds to me like the songs are added during the editing process (such as it is).

Has anyone seen this pic before - is it really her?

R415 - yes, that's Diana in her silly days of youth.