I just watched this last night. I've seen it in the theater a few times but this is worth watching if you're unfamiliar with it. Really wonderful.
It's the best version of the show.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 29, 2021 11:10 PM |
It is soooo good. And a wonderful performance by Regina Resnik.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | May 29, 2021 11:13 PM |
Fuck you people.
Just fuck you.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 29, 2021 11:22 PM |
I'm still sad we never got to see Lee Remick as Desiree in the LA production the next year.
She had to bow out because her cancer returned, and she died that summer.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 29, 2021 11:22 PM |
I know. I loved Lee Remick.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 29, 2021 11:24 PM |
Is there a Lee Remick Appreciation Thread? Beautiful actresses trained in the Method didn’t have the busiest careers but Remick managed it.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 29, 2021 11:30 PM |
I couldn’t make it past the first 10 seconds - shrill shrieking and forced sounds. ICK!
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 29, 2021 11:47 PM |
[quote] I know. I loved Lee Remick.
#MeToo
I don’t think she’s really a Desiree, tho... that character’s jaded and somewhat bawdy. She should contrast with the youthful innocence off Anne.
Lee Remick was very naturally refined, even though she played some sexy roles.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 29, 2021 11:51 PM |
Was it Lee Remick that Sondheim wanted to marry?
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 29, 2021 11:52 PM |
Stick with it. Seriously, that's just the chorus.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 29, 2021 11:52 PM |
Yes, R9.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 29, 2021 11:53 PM |
Regina Resnick was perfection in this show.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 29, 2021 11:56 PM |
I’m not super into Sondheim or live theater in general, though I like and know most of the famous songs from his musicals. ALNM is the exception though, as I love to listen to the full album. The quartet parts are sooo good, as is Gringold’s Liasons. It’s lovely music and a funny, sad theme of perpetual anticipation.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 30, 2021 12:08 AM |
Thank you!
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 30, 2021 12:28 AM |
That drunk, Betty, trying to horn in on LEE’S MAN!
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 30, 2021 12:33 AM |
The original production was very beautiful and wonderfully staged by Prince. I saw that City Opera production and it was nothing in comparison to it.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 30, 2021 12:34 AM |
[quote]The original production was very beautiful and wonderfully staged by Prince. I saw that City Opera production and it was nothing in comparison to it.
Well, that's the problem with theater. Unless somebody captures it with a good recording, it's gone.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 30, 2021 1:06 AM |
This is a total ripoff of "A Lot of Night Music".
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 30, 2021 1:07 AM |
I believe Norma Shearer was discovered in the stage show “Miss Lotta Miles’ Night Music” (?)
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 30, 2021 1:11 AM |
Anyone can whistle.
And sing, too, apparently.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 30, 2021 1:19 AM |
I never got Steve's appreciation of Lee's pipes.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 30, 2021 1:21 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 30, 2021 1:35 AM |
A big improvement visually, but is anyone else finding it frequently falling out of synch?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 30, 2021 1:51 AM |
Not as well as Miss Merman, r23. I dare say Miss Martin handled this material better.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 30, 2021 1:51 AM |
Lacking Gwen's dancing and vocal skills, Lee compensates with a Chita wig...
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 30, 2021 1:55 AM |
R27 I deeply love Lee Remick (and had the great good fortune of meeting her once) but at least in the opening speaking section of that clip, does it not sound like Lola has a Rumanian accent?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 30, 2021 2:56 AM |
Love her too, r28, but she just was out of her element attempting those particular musical roles. But she loved doing them and they cast her.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 30, 2021 3:04 AM |
My favorite Sondheim show. I was fortunate to be able to see this in the summer of 1990. Thanks for posting.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 30, 2021 3:19 AM |
Hi-Ho the glamorous life!
by Anonymous | reply 32 | May 30, 2021 11:58 AM |
Did you know that “A Little Night Music” was based on “Smiles of a Summer Night" ? Its one of the most sublime and charming comedies ever produced.. It was written and directed by Ingmar Bergman. Check out the original film, you’ll be glad you did.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | May 30, 2021 12:23 PM |
Sian Phillips was the best Mme Armfeldt
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 30, 2021 12:52 PM |
Maureen Lipman was great as Madame Armfeldt in the last London revival.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 30, 2021 12:56 PM |
Judi Dench was an angry Desiree.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | May 30, 2021 1:30 PM |
R31.. Yes! . it’s a must-see film. Delightful in so many ways.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | May 30, 2021 1:43 PM |
I had NO idea, r33! None whatsoever.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | May 30, 2021 2:55 PM |
[quote] I had NO idea, [R33]! None whatsoever.
Even on Sunday morning, the gays are sarcastic.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | May 30, 2021 2:58 PM |
Sarcasm doesn't rest for the Sabbath.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | May 30, 2021 3:45 PM |
It's just a lack of gin.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | May 30, 2021 3:48 PM |
If they’re actors, they’ll have to sleep in the stable.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | May 30, 2021 3:59 PM |
I'll wait for the Lavarious Slaughter production, thank you.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | May 30, 2021 4:03 PM |
For the film version, Sondheim wrote a new The Glamorous Life to be sung by Fredrika. This is included as a bonus track on the reissued OCR.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | May 30, 2021 4:12 PM |
It was the most stylish film musical since Gigi!
by Anonymous | reply 45 | May 30, 2021 5:14 PM |
The script of the Bergan film is so beautiful. The bon mots of Wheeler's book drop like turds into a toilet.
I seem to remember something along the lines of 'Don't squeeze your bosom against the chair. It will stunt their growth and then where would you be?' But they couldn't be that bad.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | May 31, 2021 1:02 AM |
'Bergman'
by Anonymous | reply 47 | May 31, 2021 1:03 AM |
“The party where your rosebud burst forth, REMEMBER?”
by Anonymous | reply 49 | May 31, 2021 1:09 AM |
After clicking on OP's link this terrible bootleg showed up on my feed. But it's Bernadette Peters and Elaine Stritch.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | May 31, 2021 2:07 AM |
[quote]But it's Bernadette Peters and Elaine Stritch.
Both of who were miscast. Bernadette Peters as a world weary European actress? Elaine Stritch as a desired courtesan?
by Anonymous | reply 52 | May 31, 2021 2:15 AM |
I thought Bernadette was splendid and I caught Elaine (whom I loved in a number of shows) on a good night when she remembered (almost) all of her lines.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | May 31, 2021 2:31 AM |
"The condition of your ass after I came. Ah how I moaned, and you did the same. Remember."
by Anonymous | reply 54 | May 31, 2021 2:44 AM |
[R52] You think Elaine as Madame A was a stretch. The first touring company had Jean Simmons as Desiree and MARGARET HAMILTON as Madame Armfeldt! Now we love Maggie as the WWOTW, but as a courtesan who received villas, servant and the baron who "when things got a little huffy, deeded [her] a duchy!
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 26, 2021 4:19 PM |
I've always wanted a movie remake. Michelle Pfeiffer might have been quite good as Desiree.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 26, 2021 4:34 PM |
A master class on how "Liaisons" should be done.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 26, 2021 4:40 PM |
It gave us Diana Rigg as Charlotte. It's not a total wash.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 26, 2021 4:52 PM |
Dame Judi Dench in the definitive version of "Send In The Clowns"
So many just don't get this song, and as such they over sing the piece totally missing the point.
Even Frank Sinatra stated in interviews he didn't know what SITC was about.
Send In The Clowns is about being dumped. You've set yourself up so sure of your prey, but he (or she) is all "gee, I'm flattered, but....."
Now you've done it, made a huge fucking fool of yourself, and all you can think of is how to get through that moment. In the circus when something bad happens the clown come in to create a distraction. That's what you need in situations like this, something to get you through that moment of extreme embarrassment, hurt and pain.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 26, 2021 5:06 PM |
Actually have this CD and this is one of my favorite tracks. Can't imagine what key this written in but Elaine Tomkinson is fantastic.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 26, 2021 5:13 PM |
Never heard of it. Is it as great as Hamilton??
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 26, 2021 7:35 PM |
[quote] "when things got a little huffy, deeded [her] a duchy!
"Who when things got rather touchy, deeded me a duchy."
Jesse.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 27, 2021 3:21 PM |
[quote] "Who when things got rather touchy, deeded me a duchy."
Sondheim wrote some brilliant lyrics.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 27, 2021 3:31 PM |
"High in a tower she sits by the hour, maintaining her hair."
"I found a casket, entirely of glass — no, it's unbreakable. Inside—don't ask it—a maiden a lass, just as unwakable, what unmistakable agony!"
"I sort of hate to ask it, but do you have a basket?"
by Anonymous | reply 67 | June 27, 2021 3:36 PM |
Shout out to Laurence Guittard ( Count Carl-Magnus from OBC), still with us at 81 years old!
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 27, 2021 4:30 PM |
Am I not sensitive, clever, well-mannered, considerate, passionate, charming, as rich as I'm handsome, and heir to a throne?
You've got everything maidens could wish for...
Then why no...
Do I know?
The girl must be mad....
You know nothing of madness...til you're climbing her hair and you see her up there as you're nearing her, all the while hearing her...
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 27, 2021 4:36 PM |
[quote] Shout out to Laurence Guittard ( Count Carl-Magnus from OBC), still with us at 81 years old!
And heir to a chocolate dynasty.
by Anonymous | reply 71 | June 27, 2021 4:43 PM |
Elizabeth Taylor did her own singing in that 1977 film version of A Little Night Music?
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 27, 2021 4:44 PM |
"According to our records, Laurence Guittard is possibly single."
Any stately theater queens of DL have any dirt?
I mean 81 years old and not whiff of any heterosexual relationship...
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 27, 2021 4:48 PM |
[quote]R72 Elizabeth Taylor did her own singing in that 1977 film version of A Little Night Music?
Unfortunately, yes.
They used a dance double in some shots when Liz couldn’t move in the opening number, though.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | June 27, 2021 6:54 PM |
What a wonderful cast in the Bergman movie. Björn Bjelfvenstam as the tormented son is very sexy.
by Anonymous | reply 75 | June 27, 2021 7:35 PM |
Elaine Tomkinson dubbed Taylor in some parts, though not "Send In The Clowns" of course.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 27, 2021 7:39 PM |
I think Tomkinson dubbed the low notes for Lesley-Anne Down and sang the entire role of Fredericka (played by Chloe Franks). A different vocalist supplied Down’s higher notes.
I don’t know what was done with Taylor’s voice. (Not enough, I’d say.)
by Anonymous | reply 77 | June 27, 2021 7:42 PM |
r72, your link lost me at "It was Frank Sinatra's recording of it that turned the song into Sondheim's most popular song."
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 27, 2021 7:44 PM |
They actually gave that movie an Oscar for the arrangements. There were so few musicals that year, the only competition in that category was [italic]Pete's Dragon[/italic] and [italic]The Slipper and the Rose[/italic], but this won because they thought Sondheim himself was getting the Oscar and not Jonathan Tunick.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 27, 2021 7:50 PM |
Someone care to walk me though the mental gymnastics on how Elizabeth Taylor was cast as lead in 1977 film "ALNM"?
Know role of Desiree doesn't call for an actress with a legitimate trained voice, but still.
by Anonymous | reply 81 | June 28, 2021 1:36 AM |
I presume because Taylor's name helped finance the movie...
by Anonymous | reply 82 | June 28, 2021 1:47 AM |
R82
More like Ms. Taylor's big ole bosom you mean....
I've never been so sick of the sight of woman's cleavage.
by Anonymous | reply 83 | June 28, 2021 1:52 AM |
[Quote] sick of the sight of woman's cleavage.
Not a rare feeling for you, I suspect.
by Anonymous | reply 84 | June 28, 2021 1:53 AM |
If the sun came out , her bosom popped out, if the sun went down, her bosom came out. If the moon came out her bosom came out. I tell you, my whole life I've never been so sick of looking at one woman's breasts
by Anonymous | reply 86 | June 28, 2021 1:58 AM |
Interesting blog review by Ken Andersen.
Did Tony Perkins really work with Sondheim on A Little Night Music?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | June 28, 2021 2:03 AM |
No, "The Last of Sheila."
by Anonymous | reply 88 | June 28, 2021 2:04 AM |
Had Burton and Taylor split by this time? The cast is very unstarry.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | June 28, 2021 2:05 AM |
Chatter on Broadway World was less than generous as well.
by Anonymous | reply 91 | June 28, 2021 2:17 AM |
I don't know where to start about casting for this 1977 ALNM film.....
Elizabeth Taylor was 43 or 44 when film was shot, and in many scenes she looks a bit tired and worn. More to the point Len Cariou is seven years younger than Ms. Taylor, and even with adding touch of grey to his receding hairline still projected far younger.
Leslie Ann Down though only in her middle twenties doesn't quite hit the mark as a virginal teenage newly married bride.
Hal Prince may have been wonderful far as theater was concerned, but his direction of this film wasn't his best effort.
One assumes as with Lucy Ball and Mame, Liz Taylor was brought in, regardless of any quibbles, due to her star power which producers hoped would pull in audiences.
Diana Rigg was an interesting choice. Would think 1970's Americans who knew her at all would be via British television imports (Avengers).
by Anonymous | reply 92 | June 28, 2021 2:28 AM |
They should have cast Doris Day and Jim Garner!
by Anonymous | reply 93 | June 28, 2021 2:33 AM |
[quote] I presume because Taylor's name helped finance the movie...
They were as hand-to-mouth with financing as Liz was with the sweets.
by Anonymous | reply 94 | June 28, 2021 2:35 AM |
How is it possible Glynis Johns was not a big enough name to attract funding for a film version?
by Anonymous | reply 95 | June 28, 2021 2:36 AM |
Because Johns was never more than a second female lead in the movies - at least in movies outside Britain.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | June 28, 2021 2:37 AM |
I wonder if they tried for Streisand.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | June 28, 2021 2:37 AM |
I can easily picture Streisand's "What is she, a bird?"
by Anonymous | reply 98 | June 28, 2021 2:38 AM |
Sondheim had to ask Streisand to stop covering his songs, so I doubt that would ever have happened.
by Anonymous | reply 99 | June 28, 2021 2:39 AM |
For those who haven't you really ought to watch "Smiles Of A Summer Night". Even if one does not speak Swedish and or if subtitles are lacking it still is a wonderful film. Ranks with "All About Eve" as one of the finest dramatic comedies on film.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | June 28, 2021 2:41 AM |
Are you mistaking Barbra Joan for Betty Lynn?
by Anonymous | reply 101 | June 28, 2021 2:41 AM |
Did any of you enjoy CZJ as Desiree (apart from on the Tonys, obviously)? She would seem too common for the role.
by Anonymous | reply 102 | June 28, 2021 2:42 AM |
Don't know how much truth there is in it, but they do say La Streisand and Sondheim were collaborating on a film musical version of "The Merry Widow".
Things never got far beyond early days and idea was supposedly soon dropped.
by Anonymous | reply 103 | June 28, 2021 2:43 AM |
r101
I was wondering that myself
by Anonymous | reply 104 | June 28, 2021 2:46 AM |
How did "Introducing Lesley Dunlop" come about? Was she sleeping with one of the producers?
by Anonymous | reply 105 | June 28, 2021 2:54 AM |
R95
Who?
If one of main objections to giving Angela Landsbury "Mame" was that Americans wouldn't know her from Eve and thus not have strong billing power for that film, just what planet would Glynis Johns remotely have a chance for "ALNM"?
by Anonymous | reply 106 | June 28, 2021 2:56 AM |
Lesley Ann Warren must have been busy.
by Anonymous | reply 107 | June 28, 2021 2:57 AM |
R106: Yet even with Liz attached to it they still had to settle for Roger Corman as a producer.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | June 28, 2021 2:58 AM |
That's what the movie needed....Audrey 2!
by Anonymous | reply 109 | June 28, 2021 3:00 AM |
When I saw Joan Rivers' abomination "Rabbit Test" in Westwood, there was a preview of ALNM and the audience screamed when they saw Liz. I'm certain Rivers was in the audience at various times (which she admitted) and thus the Taylor jokes started.
by Anonymous | reply 110 | June 28, 2021 3:04 AM |
Lesley Dunlop then was a young "child" actress who had a few television roles after leaving theater school at age 15. ALNM was her first film role followed by a few more.
Thought Ms. Dunlop was rather good as Petra. Since "The Miller's Son" was cut from film version of ALNM there wasn't any heavy singing involved for Petra anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | June 28, 2021 3:05 AM |
Shame "The Miller's Son" was cut from film, it really is a great song that puts many things into perspective.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | June 28, 2021 3:06 AM |
R110
One of the many issues with film ALNM was Ms. Taylor's constant weight fluctuations. She goes from bloated to slim, back to bloated.....
by Anonymous | reply 113 | June 28, 2021 3:09 AM |
But what got Dunlop the "Introducing" credit? It's not like the movie is weighted towards her in any way.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | June 28, 2021 3:11 AM |
The movie was so overblown, no pun, the score couldn't save it.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | June 28, 2021 3:12 AM |
I hated the Miller's Son. It has a very unclear message and most of all, it contradicts Sondheim's snobby dislike of I Feel Pretty. He claims it's ridiculous for this uneducated girl to sing "it's alarming how charming I feel", yet he puts his lower-class maid into a song that has the most difficult and convoluted rhymes and logic. It's a very short road to the pinch and the paunch and the pension.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | June 28, 2021 3:13 AM |
r79 sums up most of the problems. Didn't they look at the dailies?
by Anonymous | reply 117 | June 28, 2021 3:14 AM |
R114
Don't know inside details, but obviously the good lady's agent and others felt sure enough of her talents to give the coveted "Introducing..." credit.
It would Ms. Dunlop's first major motion picture, and perhaps many foretold a brighter future with that exposure.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | June 28, 2021 3:16 AM |
R115
What was left of the score you mean...
Yes, new material was added, but several ALNM Broadway numbers were cut. Leaving out "Liaisons" totally reduced role of Madame Armfeldt making it almost a throw away one.
Then again if this (cut version) was the best Hermione Gingold could manage, then it likely was best things went as they did.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | June 28, 2021 3:22 AM |
They should have had Julie Andrews play Desiree. She’s a bit too twee for the role but her speak-singing would still have been better than Liz Taylor.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | June 28, 2021 3:26 AM |
Julie might have been a fun Charlotte.
by Anonymous | reply 121 | June 28, 2021 3:28 AM |
The wig down wears actually ages her.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | June 28, 2021 3:30 AM |
Julie Andrews was far to virginal to play Desiree.
As the daughter of a courtesan (and a rather grand successful one at that) who became an actress, Desiree is slightly implied to be no better than she should be.
Julie Andrews never could pull off "You Must Meet My Wife"... Elizabeth Taylor didn't either, but that's a whole other matter.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | June 28, 2021 3:38 AM |
Elizabeth Taylor's "Send In The Clowns" ranks up there with most cringe worthy efforts. And that's saying something given sheer number of those who have tried.
by Anonymous | reply 124 | June 28, 2021 3:41 AM |
[quote] Elizabeth Taylor's "Send In The Clowns" ranks up there with most cringe worthy efforts.
And right behind it is Glenn Close’s mewling.
by Anonymous | reply 125 | June 28, 2021 3:45 AM |
If Sally Ann Howes could pull off "You Must Meet My Wife, " Julie Andrews could. Andrews was dead in the water as a movie star by the 1970s so she wouldn't have bee a good commercial choice anyway.
by Anonymous | reply 126 | June 28, 2021 3:47 AM |
A movie remake with some of the Dangerous Liaisons cast might have been good. Glenn as Desiree (Glenn actually used to fuck Len Cariou), Michelle Pfeiffer as Charlotte (Ok, Carl Magnus passing over Michelle for Glenn might be a bit of a stretch...)...
by Anonymous | reply 127 | June 28, 2021 3:49 AM |
R127
Oh I don't know...
Good number of men (at least straight ones) prefer experience and skill above simply plain physical beauty and or youth alone.
That was part of the war between Valmont and the Marquise over the young Cecile.
It was also what Desiree thought she had over Frau Fredrik Egerman. Only to be shocked that her former lover actually prefers the charms of his young inexperienced and virgin wife over all that "experience".
by Anonymous | reply 128 | June 28, 2021 4:02 AM |
[quote]? Elaine Stritch as a desired courtesan?
Exactly. What a ridiculous notion.
by Anonymous | reply 129 | June 28, 2021 4:10 AM |
You could post pics of an old, bug eyed Anita Ekberg and people wouldn't believe you that she used to be a sex symbol...
by Anonymous | reply 130 | June 28, 2021 4:10 AM |
Some insider info:
Liz originally recorded all of her vocals. The final version of "Send In the Clowns" was made by editing the song note-by-note from dozens of different takes. Not a single phrase was preserved from any take. Elaine Tomkinson had already been brought in to dub Chloe Franks, and she redid Taylor's bits in "Love Takes Time" as well as dubbing for Leslie-Anne Down. The budget wouldn't allow for another ghost singer, though some people say there was a different voice used for Down's high notes. If she did, she didn't get paid...
Liaisons was prerecorded. Steve Sondheim wrote new lyrics, but the number was scrapped without being filmed.
Len Cariou was a last-minute hire for the film. The cast was already in rehearsal and was going into the recording studio and no leading men had been pinned down. Robert Stephens was in for a short time, but left the project. Peter Finch turned it down. Cariou got it, finally, for the simple reason that he knew the role.
The film was Prince's second (after Something For Everyone). His ideas showed great promise -especially the transitions in and out of the theatre that bookend the film. The production suffered from a severe lack of money, making reshoots almost impossible. Liz didn't help at all -constantly late to the set and causing production delays. The cut of all of the chorus songs ("Remember", "Perpetual Anticipation", etc.) was not done too save money -Prince simply couldn't figure out a way to bring them into the story in a realistic-enough way for film. The setting was changed from Sweden to Austria because some of the film's financing came from the Austrian government.
I provided the various un-dubbed vocals that were posted on YouTube and shared here. They came from the studio vaults, but I wasn't the one who "borrowed" them.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | June 28, 2021 4:14 AM |
"Rabbit Test" at least has a few intentional laughs; in "A Little Night Music" they are all highly unintentional...
by Anonymous | reply 132 | June 28, 2021 4:40 AM |
The laughs Diana Rigg generates are unintentional?
by Anonymous | reply 133 | June 28, 2021 4:40 AM |
Sadly, Dame Diana was no Joan Prather.
by Anonymous | reply 134 | June 28, 2021 4:45 AM |
This wasn't the only Liz Taylor musical that decade. She was also in the US/Soviet co-production [italic]The Blue Bird[/italic], a remake of that old Shirley Temple movie. I guess the foreign governments funding the films didn't care since she would be dubbed in non-English-speaking countries:
by Anonymous | reply 135 | June 28, 2021 5:04 AM |
"Rabbit Test" at least has a few intentional laughs"
Joan, how are things down there?
by Anonymous | reply 136 | June 28, 2021 5:08 AM |
Oddly enough, Liz was much better in The Blue Bird than in A Little Night Music. Blue Bird was one of the all-time stinkers -it made Night Music look like a classic MGM musical.
by Anonymous | reply 137 | June 28, 2021 5:11 AM |
[quote]Liaisons was prerecorded. Steve Sondheim wrote new lyrics, but the number was scrapped without being filmed.
No wonder. Hermione's version at R119 is dreadful. It's hard to believe it was only a few years after she had done the role on Broadway.
by Anonymous | reply 138 | June 28, 2021 5:32 AM |
That movie is why it's good that Jodie Dallas chickened out of his quixotic quest to become a woman on [italic]Soap[/italic], especially since it only drove his boyfriend away.
by Anonymous | reply 140 | June 28, 2021 5:43 AM |
"Time being money, basic training for new recruits to most Broadway hits is mercilessly brief, and the incorrigible perfectionist in Ms. Stritch has had to summon up the subtext of Madame Armfeldt’s lines on the fly.
“I love rehearsal more than I can possibly tell you,” she said. “But everything happens for the best. It’s a marvelous part: tough, deep, confusing. And she always appears when you least expect it. The solitaire champion.”
Though anxious, Ms. Stritch was also philosophical: “I think I’m getting her. I’m looking in the mirror. Something’s coming alive in me because of Madame Armfeldt. Meeting Madame Armfeldt, I’ve got wings on my heels. I wish I knew my lines better. But if I miss one, I don’t think they’ll give me the chair.” (She missed a few at that dreaded first preview, and brought down the house.)"
/quote
by Anonymous | reply 141 | June 28, 2021 11:05 AM |
Review in The Observer was a tad less charitable.
by Anonymous | reply 142 | June 28, 2021 11:07 AM |
That Gingold audio isn't playing at the correct speed.
by Anonymous | reply 143 | June 28, 2021 11:47 AM |
R143
Thought long and hard before posting that link, but did so despite coming to same conclusion.
This one is a bit better.
by Anonymous | reply 144 | June 28, 2021 12:19 PM |
Don't forget Elizabeth Taylor's tour de force performance singing "Aida" in Il Giovane Toscanini
by Anonymous | reply 145 | June 28, 2021 9:19 PM |
Liv Ullman might actually have been better.
by Anonymous | reply 146 | June 28, 2021 9:20 PM |
Think sound is missing from this clip for copyright reasons.
Did Ms. Taylor ever do anything that didn't show of those big ole bosoms of hers?
by Anonymous | reply 147 | June 28, 2021 9:20 PM |
" Elaine Stritch as a desired courtesan?"
Elaine Stritch could do no wrong far as her loyal fans were concerned. They'd line up and pay good money to see her do Medea and swear she was best thing since Judith Anderson.
by Anonymous | reply 148 | June 28, 2021 9:25 PM |
If that were true, Stritch wouldn't have been a second banana (or and "and" creditee) for most of her career.
by Anonymous | reply 149 | June 28, 2021 9:29 PM |
It was Sondheim himself who personally called Stritch and Peters to ask if they'd take over the roles in the revival. It was originally a limited run set to close after CZJ and Lansbury left. When they agreed, Sondheim took the idea to the producers who agreed to extend based on their names. The production still had to close for two weeks to get Stitch and Peters up to speed.
by Anonymous | reply 150 | June 28, 2021 10:22 PM |
^ Stritch
by Anonymous | reply 151 | June 28, 2021 10:23 PM |
R149
Notice I said "loyal fans", not general public.
Still for some reason the woman was an "icon" of NYC theater, so there you are.....
While we're at it am getting fed up with Bernadette Peters as well.
by Anonymous | reply 152 | June 28, 2021 10:29 PM |
That sounds like something a press agent cooked up, r150.
by Anonymous | reply 154 | June 28, 2021 10:41 PM |
How so, r154?
by Anonymous | reply 155 | June 28, 2021 10:49 PM |
Maybe so, r154, but Peters, Stritch and Sondheim all told the same story in interviews. it was Sondheim's idea and he called the two before taking it to the producers.
by Anonymous | reply 156 | June 28, 2021 11:07 PM |
Why would "a press agent cook that up"? It's totally plausible that's how it happened and isn't really newsworthy.
by Anonymous | reply 157 | June 28, 2021 11:12 PM |
A press agent would cook that up to try to sell a replacement cast as a hotter ticket that the producers know them to be.
by Anonymous | reply 158 | June 28, 2021 11:20 PM |
How does the fact that Sondheim asked them personally to do it make it a hotter ticket? That's just silly, r158.
by Anonymous | reply 159 | June 28, 2021 11:22 PM |
It was indeed silly. And BP proved she was no longer box office. Stritch never really was.
by Anonymous | reply 160 | June 28, 2021 11:28 PM |
Peters was better than Zeta-Jones at least.
by Anonymous | reply 161 | June 28, 2021 11:37 PM |
I can't believe the actual stage show creators turned it into Eine Kleine Flopmovie.
They didn't even ask Bergman whether he wanted to do it. It was his movie they were adapting.
by Anonymous | reply 162 | June 28, 2021 11:38 PM |
I loved CZJ but I saw a late preview when she clearly at her best. She would make a great Mama Rose or Mame.
by Anonymous | reply 163 | June 29, 2021 12:12 AM |
Has she spoken much about her bipolar condition? Perhaps that has kept her from committing to a stage run. There was talk that she may have had a sniff sniff old time during the run of ALNM.
by Anonymous | reply 164 | June 29, 2021 12:14 AM |
Their casting wasn't silly, r160. What's silly is thinking a press agent made up Sondheim asking them to do it. *That's* silly. And the names Peters and Stritch *did* manage to lengthen the run a bit and pull in a few shekels.
by Anonymous | reply 165 | June 29, 2021 12:42 AM |
" And BP proved she was no longer box office. Stritch never really was."
Indeed she was, r160....once.
by Anonymous | reply 166 | June 29, 2021 12:47 AM |
Peters was truly fabulous in On The Town.
by Anonymous | reply 167 | June 29, 2021 1:26 AM |
Oooof, Stritch’s super-American pronunciation was horrible for Liasons. Gingold was surely rolling in her grave.
by Anonymous | reply 171 | June 29, 2021 4:01 AM |
I can't believe they gave Gwen Verdon those lines about only being wanted for her looks... Wasn't Dorothy Malone or someone available?
by Anonymous | reply 172 | June 29, 2021 11:29 AM |
[quote] Gingold was surely rolling in her grave.
She was already one foot in it based on that film recording.
by Anonymous | reply 173 | June 29, 2021 11:47 AM |
Like many actors Hermione Gingold never had a strong instrument. She could carry a tune well enough for "spoken" songs, which was fine for most purposes.
About twenty years lapsed between "GiGi" and "ALNM" film of 1977. The good lady was about 80 when she made ALNM film, and indeed would die several years later in 1989 at aged 89.
by Anonymous | reply 174 | June 29, 2021 12:45 PM |
Hermione Gingold lead a rather fantastic life and professional career. Her long association with Sondheim likely played into her being cast in film version of ALNM.
by Anonymous | reply 175 | June 29, 2021 12:49 PM |
I'm trying to imagine Dame Judith Anderson as Madame Armfeldt. She did sing a little on screen and wasn't too bad. When asked about coming to America for the first time and seeing the Statue of Liberty, Hermione commented how nice it was for them to build a statue of Judith Anderson in the harbor.
by Anonymous | reply 176 | June 29, 2021 1:45 PM |
Now that I think about it, Dame Judith on "Santa Barbara" as Minx Lockridge is very Madame Armfeldt and daughter-in-law Louise Sorel as Augusta Lockridge is very Desiree. Victoria Mallory, who played Anne in the OBC had a short term role on "Santa Barbara" as August's sister, Julia's psychiatrist.
by Anonymous | reply 177 | June 29, 2021 1:52 PM |
Are we sure that they never filmed Liaisons? In one of the Sondheim books (maybe the Zadan one) there is a story that Gingold went to an early screening and discovered for the first time that her number had been cut. That audio provided above is indeed atrocious.
by Anonymous | reply 179 | June 29, 2021 7:05 PM |
R179
One reads in various sources that "Liaisons" was not used in 1977 film of ALNM, but that does not mean it wasn't filmed.
by Anonymous | reply 180 | June 30, 2021 1:59 AM |
If that dreadful recording R119 exists shows that Liaisons was at least recorded. Considering how close Sondheim and GinGold were, find it hard to credit the latter signed onto film fully aware her big number was going to be cut.
As stated in post above by 1977 Ms. Gingold was getting on, and there was a feeling in certain circles that a little of the woman went a long way.
When you consider how tight things were budget wise forcing Elaine Tomkinson into overtime dubbing for fair number of female cast members, who could have dubbed a wobbly voiced Ms. Gingold? They do say a never named singer was brought in to do some dubbing for Elizabeth Taylor's numbers (likely things that even Ms. Tomkinson couldn't manage), which sopped up limited resources.
by Anonymous | reply 181 | June 30, 2021 2:11 AM |
[quote]who could have dubbed a wobbly voiced Ms. Gingold?
Better to cut "Liaisons" than to have Hermione dubbed. What would be the point? Talk about a distinctive voice. Cyril Ritchard is the only actor I can think of who might have been appropriate.
by Anonymous | reply 182 | June 30, 2021 2:18 AM |
R182
Am not in disagreement. If Ms. Gingold's performance wasn't up to standard in film version of ALNM, and there just wasn't time for her to pull up her socks with endless retakes or whatever, it likely was best all way around for that number to be cut.
Ms. Gingold long had a distinctive sound (brought about by nodules on her vocal cords in part IIRC), and her accent and diction were really from another time. We're not talking about replacing a few high or low notes here and there, but likely entire song would have had to be song by someone else. One thinks Ms. Gingold would have been more upset had she gone to see the film and "Liaisons" was totally dubbed. Especially if replacement vocals sounded nothing like her at all.
by Anonymous | reply 183 | June 30, 2021 2:27 AM |
I too remember reading that Liaisons was recorded and shot for the film but not used. But that was many years ago. I doubt that anyone would know. Or at least, I don't have any sources or links to support my memories.
Shall I Tell You What I Think of You from the King and I was recorded and filmed but not used. We know this is true because the vocals are on the soundtrack album and there are on set photos of the number being filmed. (The vocals on the soundtrack are a too obvious mix of Kerr and Nixon).
by Anonymous | reply 184 | June 30, 2021 2:35 AM |
So, it is Gingold on the cast soundtrack, right? She sounds fabulous there.
by Anonymous | reply 185 | June 30, 2021 2:41 AM |
R182
Cyril Ritchard? Well he did have similar accent, and was about same age as Ms. Gingold, but that's where similarities end.
Ms. Gingold may have had a husky sounding voice, but sending a man to dub her songs would be a bit much.
by Anonymous | reply 186 | June 30, 2021 2:42 AM |
As an aside, the original London cast recording of A Little Night Music is good but overall inferior to the original Broadway cast recording. The one notable exception is Gingold's Liaisons. Her performance on the LCR is much more subtle, nuanced and deeply felt than on the OBCR. But she had a few more hundred performances under her belt when the LCR was made.
by Anonymous | reply 187 | June 30, 2021 2:47 AM |
I'm sitting here imagining Merman's Liaisons....
by Anonymous | reply 188 | June 30, 2021 2:47 AM |
R185
Yes, OBC recording is Ms. Gingold.
Oddly ALNM opened on Broadway on February 25, 1973, and ran until August 3, 1974. The film was shot 7 September 1976 - 29 October 1976 so things began just two years after Ms. Gingold ended her Broadway run.
That her voice deteriorated so much in just two years before filming began, and didn't obviously improve says something.
What is also telling is that the recent ALNM soundtrack recording has several songs recorded in mono sound that were not previously released. "Liaisons" is not among them.
YT has comments disabled and am not joining just for that purpose, but would be interesting to know source of that awful "Liaisons" recording linked above. Something usually has to be really, really bad if not even years later it isn't included on soundtrack releases or anywhere else.
by Anonymous | reply 189 | June 30, 2021 2:55 AM |
[quote]Ms. Gingold may have had a husky sounding voice, but sending a man to dub her songs would be a bit much.
I was joking. Hermione Gingold and Cyril Ritchard used similar inflections in their performances.
by Anonymous | reply 191 | June 30, 2021 3:17 AM |
Gingold's performance on the OBCR in 1974 is wonderful but it had indeed deepened when she did the part in London in 1975, as reflected on the London recording. It's not exactly a surprise that even a year later when the film was made her performance might have deteriorated. People that age - my age - can decline suddenly. Something I fear.
by Anonymous | reply 192 | June 30, 2021 3:36 AM |
Doroth Collins was singing parts of her Follies role down the octave by 1977.
by Anonymous | reply 193 | June 30, 2021 3:40 AM |
By '68, Cook could no longer hit the Glitter and Be Gay money note, so they got Madeline.
by Anonymous | reply 194 | June 30, 2021 3:50 AM |
The film recording of Hermione was probably a pre-record. It's not like they couldn't have made a different master audio recording even after the scene was shot.
by Anonymous | reply 195 | June 30, 2021 4:09 AM |
Phil Leeds on Roseanne would have made the best Madame Armfeldt ever!
by Anonymous | reply 196 | June 30, 2021 9:16 AM |
R71
Well that explains why Laurence Guittard retired from performing (he doesn't even sing at home), years ago and isn't even on theatrical radar far as one can see. If you've got that kind of money in bank then have that sort of luxury.
by Anonymous | reply 197 | June 30, 2021 9:22 AM |
Laurence Guittard - Oklahoma!,
Damn! LG was one tall cool glass of water.
by Anonymous | reply 198 | June 30, 2021 9:26 AM |
R189, Jesus, they filmed the entire movie in a month? No wonder it looks so shoddy.
by Anonymous | reply 200 | June 30, 2021 10:04 AM |
R189
When people say financing for ALNM film was shaky and stingy they weren't joking. The Austrian firm providing good portion of the money wasn't in a generous mood. Budgeted for $6 million (USD), ALNM ended up costing nearly $7.2 million (USD) when in the can, and that final number was simply because money had run out, and there wasn't any more to be had.
R195 et al
Various sources state that Sondheim actually wrote new lyrics for "Liaisons", and that song along with "In Praise of Women" were actually filmed. But for reasons unknown with any certainty both were cut from final film. Likely because Austrian firm providing financing put their feet down that ALNM absolutely not run longer than 120 minutes. In end total film time is 124 minutes, but not sure if that includes opening and closing credits.
Let's face it; by middle to late 1970's genre of Hollywood musicals was dead or at least gasping for breath. Had ALNM hit Broadway maybe a decade earlier when Hollywood suits were still willing to invest money on musicals then things may have been different.
Also for R195
Broadway Masterworks re-released soundtrack for ALNM in 2013. You'd think if they were going to include those four numbers originally omitted from film they'd through out a bone and give us "Liaisons" and "In Praise of Women".
by Anonymous | reply 201 | June 30, 2021 10:40 AM |
Diana Rigg impressed many with her performance in film version of ALNM that when the stage version of Follies finally arrived in West End (London), she was cast as Phyllis Stone.
by Anonymous | reply 202 | June 30, 2021 10:50 AM |
Just to mix things up a bit.
Hats off to those beautiful girls!
by Anonymous | reply 204 | June 30, 2021 10:55 AM |
[Quote] West End (Foreign Broadway)
by Anonymous | reply 205 | June 30, 2021 1:36 PM |
r199
according to the comments, the 95 London revival
by Anonymous | reply 206 | June 30, 2021 1:38 PM |
Guittard looks like mutton dressed as lamb in that Merv clip.
by Anonymous | reply 207 | June 30, 2021 1:39 PM |
R206
Thank you....
YT comments are disabled when I view, so cannot read.
by Anonymous | reply 208 | June 30, 2021 1:56 PM |
There were still other movie musicals around the same time: [italic]The Wiz[/italic], [italic]Grease[/italic], [italic]Pete’s Dragon[/italic], [italic]The Muppet Movie[/italic], and [italic]Hair[/italic] were all released in the late 1970s. The recession cut back on the number of them compared to the previous decade. AIDS cut back on them even further over the next two.
by Anonymous | reply 209 | June 30, 2021 3:07 PM |
[quote]Damn! LG was one tall cool glass of water.
With a face that looked like a cab driver. Maybe he looked good in the large theater, but up close he looks too old to play Curly, receding hairline and all.
And Merv's audience looks like an average age of 105.
by Anonymous | reply 210 | June 30, 2021 6:58 PM |
[quote] The original production was very beautiful and wonderfully staged by Prince. I saw that City Opera production and it was nothing in comparison to it.
Broadway productions tend by and large to be better than most other productions of musicals in the US because they have bigger budgets and access to better talent. Moreover, ALNM was written to be sung by singers trained for the musical theater rather than voices trained for opera.
by Anonymous | reply 211 | June 30, 2021 7:01 PM |
The movie version of ALNM was always going to be an art house film. When you look at other musicals in the decade, you can see the way that trends were headed.
Godspell - 1973
Mame - 1974
Tommy - 1975
A Little Night Music - 1977
The Wiz - 1978
Grease - 1978
Hair - 1979
by Anonymous | reply 212 | June 30, 2021 7:06 PM |
Laurence Guittard is very sexy in person and very nice as well.
by Anonymous | reply 213 | June 30, 2021 7:16 PM |
That “Musical Hell” vid at R79 is hilarious and quite perceptive. In all the negative reviews I’ve read of this turkey of a movie, I don’t remember anyone else ever pointing out that of the three times the summer night smiles (as stated at the beginning) the movie omits the last one: Madame Armfeldt’s death.
by Anonymous | reply 214 | July 1, 2021 7:00 PM |
^^ I am R79, and I approve this post.
by Anonymous | reply 215 | July 1, 2021 10:40 PM |
My favorite Sondheim. The lyrics, music, and arrangements are fantastic. Now I can't get the song A Weekend in the Country out of my head!
by Anonymous | reply 216 | July 1, 2021 10:58 PM |
R99 - Oooooo do tell me more! I've never heard that before, but I totally get it. I'm not a fan of Streisand's singing and I don't even want to imagine her singing any of Sondheim's songs either.
by Anonymous | reply 217 | July 1, 2021 11:00 PM |
That late 70s revival of Oklahoma! was wonderful. There was a lot silly PR about the fact that the Curly was blond and Laurey was dark haired, requiring a lyric change for Jud from "long yeller hair" to "long wavy hair."
But here's one of my Oh, Mary! moments. Looking through the program beforehand I noticed that the conductor was Jay Blackton. Jay Blackton had conducted both the original production and the film. I felt like I was in Bayreuth and Hans Richter was about to conduct The Ring.
OH, MARY!
by Anonymous | reply 218 | July 1, 2021 11:14 PM |
Streisand wrote her own lyrics for "Send in the Clowns".
by Anonymous | reply 219 | July 1, 2021 11:42 PM |
r219
I thought Sondheim wrote them for her saying there was something they cut from the show and there has always been something missing from the song
by Anonymous | reply 220 | July 1, 2021 11:51 PM |
Guittard has been quietly openly gay for decades. He has lots of money and left performing in the 80s.
by Anonymous | reply 221 | July 1, 2021 11:58 PM |
[quote]I thought Sondheim wrote them for her saying there was something they cut from the show and there has always been something missing from the song
He would say that, wouldn't he?
He also denied that there was a young boy hanging by a leather strap in his basement, even though Julia/McKenzie/Lee Remick/Angela Lansbury opened that door and saw it for herself.
by Anonymous | reply 222 | July 1, 2021 11:59 PM |
[quote]He has lots of money
Because he was heir to the Guittard Chocolate fortune. I wonder if he forced them to be sold in the bar at the intermission of Oklahoma?
by Anonymous | reply 223 | July 2, 2021 12:01 AM |
I maybe should post this on the "What gay things did you do as a kid that you had no idea were gay" thread, but the summer I was 14, my family lived in London for the summer (my dad was on an overseas temporary assignment) and one of my Mom's best friends (Auntie Dee, as we called her) took me shopping one day, to lunch, and then to the matinee of A Little Night Music. We had WONDERFUL seats - and loved EVERY minute of it. I was entranced. She even bought be the cast album (which I still have) Jean Simmons, Joss Ackland were the stars. Auntie Dee must have known I was a young gayling. What 15-year-old boy loves musicals who isn't a homo-in-training?
by Anonymous | reply 224 | July 2, 2021 12:25 AM |
Bob Fosse?
by Anonymous | reply 225 | July 2, 2021 12:26 AM |
[quote]r216 My favorite Sondheim. The lyrics, music, and arrangements are fantastic. Now I can't get the song A Weekend in the Country out of my head!
I agree.
PS: this one’s good:
by Anonymous | reply 226 | July 2, 2021 12:43 AM |
[quote]He also denied that there was a young boy hanging by a leather strap in his basement, even though Julia/McKenzie/Lee Remick/Angela Lansbury opened that door and saw it for herself.
Everyone knew about that. When Jerry Herman wrote "Open a new window, open a new door, travel a new highway that's never been tried before," that's what he was referring to: the Hershey Highway.
by Anonymous | reply 227 | July 2, 2021 1:04 AM |
Jerry had no business commenting after all the fisting songs he wrote.
I Put My Hand in There.
Life is a Celebration with You on My Arm.
by Anonymous | reply 228 | July 2, 2021 1:18 AM |
The caged boy’s cries of “Open a window! Open a door!” initially inspired the lyrics.
by Anonymous | reply 229 | July 2, 2021 1:20 AM |
And when my little pinkie wiggles
Some young maiden gets the giggles,
Then I make my knuckles active
My, she says, you're so attractive!
Pressure with the thumbs,
Matrimony comes,
When I put my hand in there!
by Anonymous | reply 230 | July 2, 2021 1:24 AM |
What the hell *did* they do with the perfume?
by Anonymous | reply 231 | July 2, 2021 2:54 AM |
Sondheim's wildest kinks were discussed among gay men well before the internet. Word gets around fast.
by Anonymous | reply 232 | July 2, 2021 7:41 AM |
I watched the New York State Opera production yesterday after finishing Lincoln Center Light in the Piazza. A great double bill of romantic musical drama with light comedy. Regina Resnick is stunning and very Lady Bracknell like. Her story of the wooden ring is told quite touching. Quite a departure for Danielle Ferland who had played Little Red Riding Hood in Into the Woods as if she was emulating Nellie Oleson. She's quite understated and reigned in which had me liking her even if I was taken aback by her at first. Maureen Moore delivers Every Day a Little Death with suicidal venom which makes it all the more powerful.
by Anonymous | reply 233 | July 2, 2021 3:05 PM |
[quote] Regina Resnick is stunning and very Lady Bracknell like.
I never thought about it like that, but you’re right.
by Anonymous | reply 234 | July 2, 2021 3:47 PM |
Wow that was great r226 - how have I never seen that? They should have put all of them right into a full production.
by Anonymous | reply 235 | July 3, 2021 12:08 PM |
Regina Resnik lived a wonderful full life, and had an equally long and excellent career that spanned over forty years.
She began as a soprano, but when her voice began to darken she switched to mezzo roles completely giving up the former.
by Anonymous | reply 236 | July 3, 2021 1:20 PM |