Internet Goes into Meltdown After Dionne Warwick Questions Icon Status of Mariah Carey and Toni Braxton

Oooooh, SNAP, gurl!

Who's Dionne Warwick?

Dionne must be sundowning again.

The more time passes, the more I'm convinced that Dionne really was playing herself in Got 2B Real.

I thought she was still in London condoling the BRF. She’s such a busy giver.

I would consider Mariah iconic. I didn't really listen to her music, but there's no denying she was huge throught the 1990s and seemed to have hit after hit after hit. Her music videos were also widely watched.

Toni Braxton had some success but she seemed more lower tier. 🤷‍♂️

I really hope this ends in a catfight in a lily pond. My money would be on Mariah.

In what world is Brandy more of an icon (and a better singer) than Beyonce and Mariah? She may be a very popular Miss Congeniality-type among Black Hollywood, but she has one shared hit with Monica and a Disney movie that a coked to the gills Whitney Houston stole out from under her.

Mariah was a wonder at the start. Who can sing like that?

'Internet goes into meltdown', yeah sure it did. But wait, this shocking development did not 'break the internet...?!'

The good news? If this is the shit we are worried about, it means Trump is no longer President. The bad news? He will be again if this is the shit people exert energy on.

Miss Warwick rules!

She's right about Toni, but Mariah has sold a ton more records in the US and worldwide than Dionne has.

Mariah can hit the notes, but it takes more than that (and more than just a lot of hits) to be a great singer.

I'd like to see Mariah try to make some sense out of "Promises, Promises" the way Dionne could.

Dionne's mad because Mariah is more successful than her precious Whitney.

She spoke the truth. She wouldn’t dare to say that about Madonna because Cunty Madge is way above her level

[quote] Dionne's mad because Mariah is more successful than her precious Whitney

More successful than Whitney? Please. 85% of this bitch's hit singles were earned through dishonest practices like selling her CD singles for 50 cents. Whitney Houston never had to resort to that kind of desperation just for some bullshit "most number one singles" record.

Mariah is a fake ass hippo who shrieks like a rabid hyena in heat.

Mariah is iconic and oftentimes has a sense of humor about her public persona. She took ghastly care of her voice throughout the years and her voice has aged horribly as a result but I still root for the gal just all the same.

Toni Braxton has a lovely alto and is a naturally pretty lady whose had tasteful work throughout the years. That's how you do a bit of plastic surgery and general dermatology work, you just do a bit delicately throughout the years. She's going through a mid life crisis but she's was low key at the height of her fake. A well kept alto will always work but she's no icon.

Brandy is nothing. She's sounds like Dionne now (and Dionne is in her 80's, right?). All gravely and whiskey soaked. She also has a horrible hairline and has aged to be a stick thin alien looking creature. Some people say she's the "vocal Bible" but that's nonsense. Brandy got lucky career wise for some time but she'll be forgotten.

R8 Sorry but no. Brandy had a lot of hits back in the 90's, probably more than Tony Braxton.

I agree that she is not in the same cathegory than Mariah or Beyonce

Brandy did not have more hits than Toni Braxton. Toni was more successful and more acclaimed as a talented singer. Toni could actually sing. Brandy had such a boring, wispy voice she made Janet Jackson sound like Jessye Norman in comparison.

ANYONE WHO HAD A HEART would know that such pettiness is unwarranted and unnecessary. I wonder what goes on in her head that Dionne felt like she had to stir things up?

I'd suggest we SAY A LITTLE PRAYER for Dionne Warwick, how does she not know that both Mariah Carey and Toni Braxton have a lot of devoted fans?

There's a reason why Brandy turned to a UPN sitcom ("Moesha") in the late '90s.

I'm black and I think Brandy is big in our community because a lot of us grew up with her. Moesha was huge for us in our childhoods, the Cinderella movie still gets played a lot, and the Brandy doll sold well.

Musically however, her contributions are vastly overrated (and the 'vocal bible' thing mostly comes from her). Even Monica has had more #1 hits and Grammy nominations. Brandy also seems extremely unstable and kind of egotistical.

Mariah is definitely an icon, can't really argue with that one. As someone else said, Toni Braxton was quite low key during her biggest years of music success, and off the radio was mostly famous for being terrible with money. She certainly has some iconic looks and videos though ("You're Makin Me High", "He Wasn't Man Enough").

Didn't Aretha cover Toni's "You Makin' Me High" in many of her concerts?

Mariah is a knock off Whitney.

R6 Mariah's legacy is a Christmas song nothing more.

R25 you have no understanding of music or musicianship.

People throw around the word "Icon" and "iconic" like it is nothing. It is nice to see someone show some restraint when it comes to calling everyone and everything "iconic".

Even Dionne basically said that Toni wouldn't consider herself an icon. She's a beautiful, talented artist that made some great songs and videos. That's not the same as an icon.

Mariah's music is downright awful (besides We Belong Together), let's be honest. She still has a great voice though.

Dionne never fails to put down other people. She is a DL Icon.

[quote][R6] Mariah's legacy is a Christmas song nothing more.

That really is a moronic statement.

Her catalog, chart history, sales history, current radio/streaming play/royalty payments and other forms of empirical data prove that to be blatantly wrong.

Moreover--and perhaps more importantly---her style of singing (whether you like it or not) influenced (and continues to influence) and entire generation (and generations) of singers who try (emphasis on the word "TRY") to emulate her vocal and performance style.

[quote]I'd like to see Mariah try to make some sense out of "Promises, Promises" the way Dionne could.

Nobody could sing those complex songs like Dionne could. She was truly gifted.

The original Got 2 B Real cast basically nailed the icons: Aretha, Patti, Dionne, Diana, Chaka, Whitney, Mariah, Beyonce, Rihanna.

If you wanted to cast a wider net: Janet Jackson, Gladys Knight, Donna Summer should be in there too.

And despite both being certifiable lunatics nowadays, Anita Baker is a more iconic alto chanteuse than Toni and Lauryn Hill is a more iconic 90s girl-wonder than Brandy.

If we're talking about talent Phyllis Hyman should be in there too.

Rihanna is not iconic n my world.

Whoever is advising her on PR is doing a fantastic job.

Puerto Rico?

It’s her niece, r37.

One thing I learned obtaining my master's degree was that words have definitions, and the word "iconic" is thrown around too much today. It doesn't mean "wildly popular" or "dress is too much too small."

R32 Chart history doesn't mean shit in the long run. Do you really think people in 100 years are going to be listening to 'We Belong Together?. Aretha, Whitney, and Dionne all have more staying power. Mariah is the biracial Debby Boone.

Phyllis Hyman was a great talent who never got her due.

Where the hell has Anita Baker been? She's been off the radar for a long time.

R40 'iconic' basically means 'wildly overrated by cheesy gays and trashy women' now.

[quote][R32] Chart history doesn't mean shit in the long run. Do you really think people in 100 years are going to be listening to 'We Belong Together?. Aretha, Whitney, and Dionne all have more staying power. Mariah is the biracial Debby Boone.

funny how you only chose "chart" history out of my entire post and ignored the rest.

Plus I don' think Debby Boone dominated the charts for an entire decade.

Only Madonna, Michael and Elvis continue to be discussed in history class 100 years from now

Dionne should be careful, because there's no one greater at throwing shade than Mariah "I Don't Know Her" Carey.

R47 Mariah looks like a heifer. Her barbs are like nerf pellets.

I'm not really a Mariah fan, neither am I of Dionne, but Mariah wrote a lot of her songs and there were some pretty good ones.

[quote] Whoever is advising her on PR is doing a fantastic job.

Her niece or something started a while back and you're right. Took her right out of has been status and put a shine back on her name.

Did they scam AIDS victims like Dionne?

I wish the fantastic poster who can impersonate Dionne to perfection would post again.

Toni still sounds better than ever. Mariah lost her voice years ago. Toni can belt on Broadway.

Toni has absolutely sultry and beautiful voice

The only thing Dionne is iconic for is her Schnauzer teeth.

Maybe Dionne should advertise for the psychic friends network again. She always seemed notoriously low on cash.

Just walk on by, R21. Foolish pride: That's all Dionne has left.

Dionne has had quite the resurgence. An 80 year-old becoming the darling of Twitter is pretty amazing.

Id love to hear a Toni and Mariah duet.

Sorry but Dionne is on crack like her cousin cause MARIAH has more gold than this bitch could in three lifetimes. Mariah doesn’t need to know the way to San Jose , she has people for that. Toni B is not an icon. Dionne is right about her.

R35 The late Phyllis Hyman was criminally underrated. She was the full package from top to bottom and back again. Gorgeous range, face, and body.

Clive Davis dropped Angela Bofill and Phyllis Hyman basically when he was grooming Whitney Houston for stardom along with Cissy's guidance. That man had a trio of well rounded talent and didn't know what to do with it. Phyllis was a hot mess sadly and Angela was a hippie deep down but still.

Still my fave

R43, is there anything else you'd like to say that everyone already knows?

Tell us all about that sky color, maybe?

I don’t think Mariah’s music will be played for generations. They are a product of their time. It’s the same with Madonna. Toni Braxton’s career was long over.

None of them are icons

Phyllis Hyman was exquisite. Unfortunately she had drug/alcohol and mental health issues. And yes, Clive Davis did her no favors. He was so obsessed with making Whitney Houston a crossover pop star that he neglected other artists on his label.

Madonna will be in the history books. Not just for her music but she had a huge impact on the culture of her era.

R61, what an amazing voice she had!

R66, I doubt it. No one plays her songs now. What impact on culture?

[Quote] Where the hell has Anita Baker been? She's been off the radar for a long time.

I think she officially retired two years ago

r68 you still hear Madonna's stuff all the time, esp. her 80s and 90s music. And if you have to ask what her impact was on culture, you're pretty dumb.

[quote]I don’t think Mariah’s music will be played for generations.

r64 Mariah Carey is now 51 years old. You must be old if yourself if you don't know any millennials who are Mariah stans or "lambs", her music passed down to that generation years ago. Also, Ariana Grande has now passed down Mariah's music to a whole new generation Z. All I Want For Christmas and Hero will be covered and played long after Mariah kicks the bucket, without question.

I've never been a big Mariah Carey fan, but I can recognize that she is definitely an icon.

Pleeze gurls, Dionne is a real 🔮psycho who can see the future.

Dionne and Madonna are both below Mariah in sales and miles behind Rihanna. Whitney is now down to #8 in the list below Ariana.

Highest certified female artists of all-time in the US:

#1. Rihanna - 224M

#2. Taylor Swift - 190M

#3. Nicki Minaj - 129M

#4. Mariah Carey - 123M

#5. Katy Perry - 122M

#6. Lady Gaga - 104M

#7. Whitney Houston - 89M

#8. Ariana Grande - 85M

Sales and hit songs aren't the only thing that makes one an icon. Sometimes it doesn't even matter. If you'd watched the entire clip, Dionne explained that. She said Lena Horne, Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughn are all icons even though they didn't have a big catalog of hit songs. She said if you said their names to anyone today, people would know who they were. And she's absolutely right.

[quote]Dionne and Madonna are both below Mariah in sales and miles behind Rihanna.

Um, Madonna is the biggest-selling female artist in the world.

Phyllis Hyman was a genius.....but bipolar meds were made for people like her.

So many replies and no one has mentioned Prince ? Now that’s an ICON

Phyllis Hyman was a crazy nutjob who was impossible to work with. Blaming Clive Davis and Whitney Houston for hee downfall is just lazy and a refusal to own up to the fact that she sabotaged her own career a lot of the time.

I hope Dionne at least recognizes Miss Diana Ross as an icon.

DL's patron saint of cuntitude Lauren Bacall had a similar reaction when she was filming a movie with Nicole Kidman and the lazy reporter referred to Kidman as an icon. Bacall dismissed the notion and implied that people were using the term too indiscriminately.

[quote]Um, Madonna is the biggest-selling female artist in the world.

Highest certified female artists of all-time in the US. Did you miss the "US" part? And Madonna is losing her grip on global sales too.

Madonna is the best selling female artist in the world.

He got to read the comments. I LOL especially at this one:

[quote]Tragic pig-nosed chokewhore will only have two pallbearers at her funeral cuz there’s only two handles on a trash can.

I like Toni but she's really not an icon at all. Good singer but she was never iconic, ever.

r2 = Aretha Franklin

[quote] And Madonna is losing her grip on global sales too.

No, not at all. There is no female artist who has any chance of overtaking Madonna.

Toni Braxton has a lovely, rich contralto but I agree she is not an icon by any stretch.

However she has a more legitimate claim to being called one than Brandy Minnie Mouse Norwood and that hoodrat Mary J "My singing is even flatter than my non-existent bosom" Blige. MJB is overrated beyond belief and should get down on her knees and thank her stars she lucked into a successful musical career. Otherwise this tacky bitch would be asking "You want fries with that?" in some Burger King in Newark or offering toothless BJs to prospective johns in the ghetto.

Well, well, well, if it isn't the gays gossiping about good ol' Auntie Dionne.

You must have forgotten how kind I was to Clive when I caught him sucking Little Richard off in the bathroom. Or, when I stood at the piano while Burt let one rip on the wooden piano bench and he admitted it was because the prior night his ass got pumped by Tom Jones.

Let's be clear about one thing, fellas, my hole can ride a pole better than any stripper or queer cuz I've been doing it for 80 years.

Everyone use #DickedDownByDionne so I can see your replies cuz I ain't no psychic, friend. LOL

Love her! Becomes more legendary everyday!

Brandy IS iconic. These haters in this thread are disgusting.

Brandy is iconic for killing someone. She's the black, hetero, vocal version of Caitlyn Jenner.

Toni Braxton is NOT an icon. She is a talented singer who had a few years of hits, some of them very big, but if she's an icon, the we need to consider the same status for Roxette, because their chart output was even bigger than hers.

Brandy is NOTHING. The only thing she's remembered for is killing someone in traffic.

Mariah Carey is unquestionably an icon. She took a particular vocal style, made it mainstream and spawned hundreds of copycats that still try to ape her to this day.

And Dionne is most definitely an icon. She survived in the business for over 50 years and her songs are timeless.

Even if you don't care for her singing, you cannot deny Dionne is iconic for that psychic hotline.

RIP Phyllis Hyman. She was more of a jazz singer but could deliver a beautiful pop/dance/disco number like a pro!

[quote]No, not at all. There is no female artist who has any chance of overtaking Madonna.

Wrong. She's only at the top still because she was big during the era of pure sales, which are non-existent today. You can't compare her era with the streaming era of today, so that list is outdated and irrelevant in 2021.

A little reminder of what an exquisite vocalist Dionne Warwick was in her prime. Amazing.

r96 nobody else has ever had the career or cultural impact Madonna had. Her level of fame and influence would be impossible today.

Madonna would be iconic, but all these second tier divas are ruining their legacies with plastic surgery, wigs, and trying to look like teenagers. Madonna's legacy will be her crazy Instagram and Mariah's legacy will be her trying to fit into a tube top at age 70. Whitney secured her legacy by dying tragically.

[quote] Brandy is iconic for killing someone. She's the black, hetero, vocal version of Caitlyn Jenner.

Brenda is more like Rebecca Gayheart. Both actresses. Both killed someone while driving. Both born female.

Brandy? That teen singer from the 90s? Why is she even in this conversation?

[quote] Wrong. She's only at the top still because she was big during the era of pure sales, which are non-existent today. You can't compare her era with the streaming era of today, so that list is outdated and irrelevant in 2021.

Correct--you cannot compare the era of streaming to physical sales. Physical sales were much more significant. When you purchased a song or an album, you were making an actual committment. Streaming is like a combo of airplay and buying music. Madonna's sales will probaly never be topped. The only artistfrom the 90s onwards that has a chance of overtaking her is Eminem.

Loved Dionne's joint with Millie Jackson "Hell No You Can't Fuck Me In My Nostril!"

R88 = Beyawnnzze, still mad that people said Mary J Blige would never have lip synced at Obama's inauguration.

Mariah is overrated by Stan culture. She is not a legend.

Beyonce and Mariah are incredibly overrated.

Dionne Warwick is an authority of such matters. You little bitches better bow to the queen! 👑💅🏾

[quote]When asked about the likes of GRAMMY winners Mary J. Blige and Brandy, Warwick said both had what it takes to become icons – praising the former for her growth and the latter for her amazing vocals and talent.

Is she for real with this Brandy has "amazing vocals and talent" shit??

Brandy is about as relevant today as Jennifer Love Hewitt... a teenage TV actress from that era who also released a couple mediocre singles.

It's not Beyawnce

It's BeOnYourWayToJailforPlagarizing-ce

I think Dionne was just trying to be polite about Brandy.

Correct that Brandy was a teen singer from three decades ago and not much else, but Miss Warwick didn't want to start a catfight or anything.

Warwick is batshit crazy, but she's right about this one.

Brandy? An icon? Girl, check your weave because it's cutting off the circulation to your cranium mush. If Brandy is an icon, then Karyn White is not just your Superwoman, she's your fucking God! And let's give you the benefit . . .of the doubt. . .and bring in Pebbles' flat ass. Le6s make her a fucking Empress. Oh--and let's not skip Cherelle. She got some MondayTuesdayWednesdayThursdayFriday Satuuuuuurdaaaay Love and that's more iconic than The Boy is Mine. Fuck off with iconic Brandy Norwood, Car Murderess!

You're forgetting Shannon

Let the music play, heaux!

Shannon's Let the Music Play and Madonna's Holiday are credited with bringing dance music back to the mainstream in the early 80s, after the decline of disco.

[quote]Brandy did not have more hits than Toni Braxton. Toni was more successful and more acclaimed as a talented singer. Toni could actually sing. Brandy had such a boring, wispy voice she made Janet Jackson sound like Jessye Norman in comparison.

Brandy and Toni had about the same number of hits but Brandy was popular with the younger set, Toni was more popular with older people and now Toni still has a presence in the public consciousness but neither is an Icon. If Brandy had of continued to act she'd be in a very different place right now.

[quote]Dionne and Madonna are both below Mariah in sales and miles behind Rihanna.

It's not all about sales. At a certain point many of these people have gone on to film/tv/fashion and increased their public popularity. Madonna is an Icon but I'd say she's also famous just for being "Madonna" at this point. The same applies to Lady Gaga.

And to be fair, looking at Dionne's actual quotes, she said she doesn't know enough about Mariah to make a judgement on how Iconic she is and she doesn't think Toni would want to be an Icon and that's not something she's striving for.

To me the status of icon is measured in how influential an artist is on other artists. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston definitely influenced singing styles of those who came after them in the 90s and 2000s. Toni Braxton was a collaboration effort, Toni/Babyface/LA Reid were were majorly influential on the music industry, like Janet Jackson and Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis. These people were driving forces of music and made HITS that people will never forget and will reference forever.

[quote]And to be fair, looking at Dionne's actual quotes, she said she doesn't know enough about Mariah to make a judgement on how Iconic she is

So basically... "I don't know her".

To me, "iconic" means representing a certain era. As such, Warwick and Madonna are definitely iconic. Braxton is not. Can't really say about Mariah.

Well, in a time where Karen Olivo has been referred to in print as an iconic Broadway actress, I'm pretty sure the meaning of the word will never be understood again.

Toni Braxton: Not an icon. Going bankrupt 2X didn't help her image. Cool to have a low, sultry, distinctive voice, though.

Brandy: Another low voice, less of an icon than Toni Braxton.

Mariah Carey: Yes, an icon. But her songs just don't have the complexity & sophistication of Dionne's songs in the Bacharach period. Some of Dionne's songs, like Alfie & Valley of the Dolls (Where do I go) are just a punch in the stomach, so touching.

I like looking at Spotify streams when these discussions come about. Dionne's music is 20-30 years older than the other ones so it's understandable that she has less listeners. Still 3.1 million people listen to her monthly. That's pretty good.

Spotify monthly listeners:

Whitney Houston= 20.5 million Madonna= 15.8 million Mariah Carey= 14.4 million Mary J. Blige- 7.1 million Brandy= 4.6 million Toni Braxton= 3.8 million Dionne Warwick= 3.1 Million

Looks to me like Miss Dionne has had some 'work' done. The old nose was entering Wayland & Madame territory.

What exactly is Dionne Warwick famous for again?

She's a psychic with a lot of friends or something.

[quote]To me, "iconic" means representing a certain era.

Even if we stick with the dictionary definitions of "Iconic" ie. "widely recognized and well-established" and/or "widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence," I think it's pretty clear that Dionne and Mariah fit the bill.

Only Whitney had a better voice than Mariah at her height and even that's arguable. Few could ever touch Mariah Carey hitting that G7 and some say live F7#. Her vocal range was once recognized as being more broad than any of her contemporaries. While her music may not be as complex or (with the exception of, "All I Want For Christmas is You" and maybe "Hero,") as memorable, she will always be remembered for that.

Mariah had GLITTER but Dionne had SLAVES

Grace Jones would grind them all into powder and then snort it. She don't play.

Grace Jones is ICONIC.

Grace Jones is definitely iconic.

🤣 Are we

I am ironic.

And I am uronic.

I bet Miss Dionne thinks Luther "I am a girl group!" Vandross was an icon. I bet if he was still alive they'd be reading bitches all day on Twitter

R22 she did that because she was going after that triple threat status (don't ask me what the third threat was) that many "entertainers" want ... but also, she had started out in the biz as an actress before her success as a singer (she was in the short-lived sitcom "Thea" in the early 90s).

Luther was an icon of sorts. He was our own black, gay, fat Neely O'Hara and we never appreciated him until it was too late.

There multi top tiers when it comes to Pop legendary status.

Tier 1 1: highest level of recognition and legendary icons whose names are discussed countlessly in curriculum and history: Madonna, Elvis, Presley, and the Beatles. Madonna name has been taught in many MBA marketing classes across the world.

Tier 2: Aretha Franklin, Barbra, Frank Sinatra, David Bowie, Bob Dylan, Queens, Tina Turner

Tier 3: Elton Jones, Whitney, Mariah, Celine, Janet Jackson, Britney Spears, Beyoncé, Cindi Lauper

Tier: 99: Jessica Simpson, Justin Bier, and millions of singers all over the world

Oh honey, your Tier 3 is clogged with a bunch of people who don't deserve to be anywhere near there, such as Janet and Cyndi. They're more like Tier 10.

And there are several people in your Tier 2 that should be moved down such as Tina, Bob Dylan and possibly Aretha.

Also, your spelling is atrocious.

r137 Michael Jackson must be alone in Tier 0 then, he is still the most recognized and influential pop music artist

Michael Jackson, the Beatles and Elvis are tier 0. Madonna, Led Zepellin, Pink Floyd are Tier 1. Tier 2 would be Elton, Mariah, Whitney, Celine. Tier 3 would be Guns N Roses, AC/DC, Metallica, Nirvana, Tier 4 would be Britney and some others.

U2 and The Rolling Stones should be in tier 2.

Britney belongs in Tier 17.

Yes, the only reason Britney is an icon is because there are so many fucking idiots under 40.

STEVIE NICKS is more ICONIC than Cyndi Lauper, Brandy, Toni Braxton, and Janet Jackson!

Stevie Nicks is an iconic dick smoker, cocaine addict, and barnyard attraction.

Damont, get me what McCooCoo posted, her number thing. Put it in her.

(R112, Boss.)

Marilyn, you are right but you have GOT to remember your blood pressure. At least until I get that insurance policy cleared.

"Landslide," "Rhiannon," and "Edge Of Seventeen" will be played 100 years from now, unlike any of Janet's, Brandy's, Toni's or Cyndi's little ditties.

Oh lordy, the Stevie Nicks stan has arrived

Hey, y'all, Auntie DIonne here again, taking a break from being the Queen Of Twitter to check in with my DL Gays.

Trivia: Fuck Phyllis, they actually referred to me as Dionne Hymen cuz I was unbreakable. Now, that's iconic.

Use #Dionne'sUnbreakableHymen so I can see your replies.

Auntie Dionne,

Not to second-guess you, but wouldn't #UnbreakMyHymen be more appropriate and FUNNY in this discussion?

R137 needs to learn how to rank and organize. And be inclusive of Ultra Prime Diva Moi.

And R149 had better understand that her fucking shitheadism will not keep me from suing both for racism, plagiarism AND motherfucking libel.

Perhaps post mortem.

I am THIS CLOSE to getting Nippy out of her "safety keep" and sending her on an errand.

R143 Truth, Britney is talentless and her music is garbage.

Toni Braxton doesn't qualify as an icon. Mariah arguably does. The word "icon" has become completely overused, anyway.

I think Queen is probably up there in icon status. Their music is really popular on streaming websites, probably the most popular band in terms of streaming from the 20th century. Plus there are a few iconic moments from their career that everyone remembers.

I think I would go The Beatles, then Michael Jackson, then Elvis, then Queen, followed by the Rolling Stones.

Beyond that I don't know.

There are so many icons who made it to the A-list: Elton John, Bob Marley, Madonna, Whitney, Aretha, Bob Dylan, Nirvana, Tina Turner, Bowie, Prince, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Stevie Wonder, etc. It's just a matter of preference how you rank them. Like this being a gay site, of course Madonna is considered a giant icon, but on a classic rock forum she would not be considered that highly.

[quote]Oh lordy, the Stevie Nicks stan has arrived

At least JanBot hasn't found this thread yet.

"JUST LIKE THE WHITE WINGED DOVE"

Shut up, goat.

R15, you are correct,don't know how i forgot about Queen. I would put them in either Tier 1 or 0 myself.