Will William Be a Popular King?

It's too early to say. If the rumours that he an affair turn out to be true, it'll significantly dent his popularity. Kate is well-liked and I think the public would side with her. I also think the popularity of the monarchy will dip once the baby boomers are gone. Time will tell.

It is very likely the "rumor" was planted by the Harkles, it was traced back to a stan on social media.

I am 51, and I assume that I will be dead before he is crowned King. Those people live for fucking ever.

He is as dull as dishwater.

I think with the slow decline of the Commonwealth Nations keeping them around as heads of state, they may become less relevant. William is seriously an angry man child and a bore. Nothing he says ever sounds sincere or welcoming. Just always a bad facade. At least Charles is passionate about what he's passionate about. There is a there there with the Prince of Wales, not always likable but more interesting than his son. You can tell that Charles has some ideas and passion for taking over. William looks like someone forced to hangout with someones boring old aunt whenever he's at royal engagements. Clocking down the time till he can head back to his palace or mansion in peace. Kate puts on a good show. Must be something about not growing up in the lap of luxury that makes her seem more honest in public. She and William are lazy for sure, but she is present at events while he just seems so smug and fake.

I can't stand William.

He's lazy, petulant and a bully.

r3 Charles definitely doesn't look like he will live a long time. I think his reign will be short My own guess is that the Queen outlives her mothers age by a few years which would take her to or nearly too 104 so that us the year 2030. She likes more robust than her mother did at 95 and that's with all the extra responsibilities as Queen. I think Charles will live well into his eighties to say around 2035.

I doubt the monarchy will survive Charles. Far too indulgent and petulant for his own good.

UK in 20 years will be no more. Scotland and Wales will be independent. Northern Ireland and merge with Ireland. Just little old England. They won’t be able to afford royalty.

Charles is old enough now that his reign will be seen as a mere interlude.

The interesting thing about William is that he is very careful and guarded in his public persona and statements. In that sense he is very much more like The Queen than his father. And The Queen was criticised for that in the early days of her reign too. In essence, she was criticised for the very traits which she is now applauded for. I suspect William will gain the same respect as a safe pair of hands too.

It will fall to William to make the monarchy fit for a new age, but he seems level-headed enough to make a good attempt at that.

This thread is Klan Granny catnip.

I think William will retire to somewhere like Malibu in his 70s and let Gay George take over. You can tell William is bored to tears by all the ribbon cutting and having to pretend he likes Kate.

Good point r12, William will start the abdication/retirement train, made popular by other European royals sick of hearing their heirs complain about being second fiddle. They retire to some palace and enjoy being a rich fuck while their middle age child takes on the burden and boredom of the top job. It's actually a rather stable way of doing things that should have become the norm eons ago.

I agree, Will looks so over this shit and he's not even 40.

He won't just be bald by the time he's king; he'll probably also be fat, too.

Overnight, the DL seems to have been invaded by a bunch of mouth breathing fan fic writing early teenaged American boys, self-appointed British royalty experts.

sMEGs will attempt to die while giving birth so that her name will live on in infamy for ever....

William is probably half crazy like his psychotic mother. He is another George III waiting to detonate.

He shouldnt have let his hair go like that

Is that a king's way of pissing?

I hate it for some reason.

R9 England supports the other nations of the UK.

He would have been a much more popular monarch had he ascended the throne earlier.

Charles's reign will be a catastrophe and will negatively color everyone's view of the monarchy when William finally ascends to the throne.

I'm betting that William will likely preside over the "end" of the monarchy as an institutional part of UK society, holdings like Buckingham Palace will revert to government control, financial support will be phased out over time, and royal titles will continue only as long as there is an heir. Once the line ends, the title will also.

Sadly, it is now obvious that William will be a complete stuffed shirt bore, like he already is. Harry got all of Diana's charisma, William got NONE of it!

R7 Charles' appearance has me curious. Despite his seemingly "good" genes, neither Queen Elizabeth or Prince Philip were ever so... swollen during public appearances, were they?

R12 Let George take over?! Not on MY watch!!

William may not be a very popular king, but I think he'll be a steady and steadfast king. Then again, I feel like Charles (my fellow Scorpio) will be a good king, too. Oddly enough, I found him at his most regal as he walked with Meghan down the aisle during H&M's wedding, and escorted Doria at the end of the ceremony. I had never thought of him as 'regal' until that moment: so much promise, only a few years ago. At least Charles and William seem to truly believe in trying to uphold HM's legacy.

I can’t believe I am saying this but boring is what the BRF need. After the funeral it became clear that antics like Harry’s are bad PR for the firm.

I think William will be a good king, he has a real sense of duty unlike his wastrel brother. You also have to remember that when William and Kate's three kids reach young adulthood all the attention will be on them so there will be renewed interest in the Monarchy. Of course Harry and Meghan are well aware of this and they know that it's only a matter of time before they're irrelevant, once William and Kate's kids become the stars of the family.

I think William will do fine. Charles is the problem. William is Diana's son, has her charisma and, unlike Harry, looks like her. In addition, he seems to be very intelligent and empathetic. His involvement in environmental activism will become increasingly important.

Kate makes a perfect consort. They're not hysterical attention whores like the Harkles and won't wear out their welcome. And the rumor William was having an affair came directly from Meghan's insane harpy horde.

They seem to think Harry and the Meghan can out-maneuver the Royal family and they'll be King and Queen, ruling from Montecito. They're nothing if not stupid.

Circa 2051, Archie of Sussex returns to avenge his parents and claim his rightful place on the throne

"Hello, Auntie Kate, you made mummy cry..."

I really can't imagine any Brit born after 1980 could care about this.

If and when he reaches the throne, a great deal of William's popularity will be because of Kate. She will have a huge influence on how the people perceive his reign.

I think it will end with Charles.

Who gives a fuck about William? He doesn't enjoy this stuff. At 16:00 he says he'll be happy when the interview is over. What? People rarely see the ribbon cutting stuff. They see the interviews. I'm afraid the whole thing may be over if he's not well liked.

I never saw two such boring people.

R32 you want a boring King. He's the Head of State. You don't want an hysterical unhinged moron like Harry. You don't seem to understand how constitutional monarchies work.

The way Kate says hope like Maid Marion from Robin Hood Men in Tights.

The Crown showed the Queen was a figurehead who can't get involved in political matters.

LOL. There job is to just stand there, look pretty and be a walking artifact of an outdated system. They are figureheads. Of course they are boring.

William will be a stable and respected King and do just fine in the job. Nobody wants the man on the throne to be warm and fluffy or to have rock-star charisma. His job is to shut up, act as head of state, and look great on the money. William will do all of those things, ably supported by Kate, who seems more regal by the day.

The real disaster for the monarchy is a selfish, immature monarch who wants to do only what THEY want to do and fuck the rules, the expectations, or other people's feelings. Edward VIII was that sort of king and ruined himself within a year. If Harry had been born first, he'd have been just as much of a disaster. it's lucky William was born first.

I agree that William will probably retire and let George have it rather than serving until death. That sort of mindset will end with Charles.

Prince Charles I actually care about for some reason.

Prince William never seemed to show he went out of his way to give a damn about others. Never have heard him be impressed with something someone is doing or look like he really cared about a cause.

He stays on script, hits the marks but he doesn't seem as passionate as Charles.

I suppose William be fine. But he lacks charm and charisma. He doesn't seem particularly engaging or appealing. I don't want him to have celebrity charisma. I realize he must be dispassionate about most things. However, William comes across as lacking a soul. He's a shell, an empty vessel. His actions will be to preserve the monarchy, but not to care about much more. William just seems like a mean hard ass, bully and a bore. Even Kate in her silence has a little pizzazz to her.

But likewise, we have gotten to see a fair amount of Harry's personality in the past year. He lacks charm and charisma too. He lacks character. He's petulant. He's a jerk and has a mean streak. He's a liar . And he forever looks pissed off at the world despite everything in life being handed to him on silver platter. Diana had charm and charisma beyond words and had a great sense of duty. Her boys--and Charles' boys as well --don't seem to have great personalities.

Yes, exactly. Lacking a soul. Perhaps that's what Harry meant by him being trapped. Charles was trapped by not being allowed to marry Camilla.

It actually sounds really awful sometimes. The whole world watches you succeed but they also watch you fall. When you seek a little solace in others they tell you to get it from the palace. Yeah, take comfort in the arms of Andrew and Fergie. Did they ever give hugs?

I think William will be an excellent king. I think he’s a lot like his grandfather.

For all this hemming and hawing about how Charles and William will be as kings, they have very little power. I mean, it really doesn’t matter.

R29 imagine being stupid enough to think Archie will look ANYTHING like that. People have no idea how genes work.

@r33, "[R32] you want a boring King. He's the Head of State. You don't want an hysterical unhinged moron like Harry. You don't seem to understand how constitutional monarchies work. "

You don't seem to understand how humor works. Tell us what it's like going through life as a dull little twat with a stick up your ass

@r43, "[R29] imagine being stupid enough to think Archie will look ANYTHING like that. People have no idea how genes work. "

Another humorless twat with a stick up their ass, in other words, British

R29 is hilarious, considering that by 2051 Archie will probably be about 15th in line. He'll be as relevant to the succession as the Kents or the Gloucesters.

I think he will be a good king, a positive king.

@r46, My God you Brits are dumb...

I think what people are seeing as coldness or lack of soul is ruthlessly policed self-possession. Early in his public career, William cultivated a studied distance in his interactions with the press and public. Some of this may be temperament, but a lot of it is probably his experiences as a boy and young man, particularly his parents' wars in the press and his mother's death.

He ruthlessly protects his real self so that it doesn't get picked over by the press. He gives the world just enough of a glimpse of his family--the occasional photos--to keep the worst of the photographers off their backs. The press gets what he is willing to give, and not a drop more.

His demeanor contrasts really interestingly with Harry's wounded, enraged, astonishing lack of discretion and self-control. This whole Harry situation must be a nightmare for William, losing the one person who really understood what it was like to be Diana's son, one of the only people the future king probably trusted. Even if Harry divorces Meghan and comes back to the UK, you know the brothers' relationship won't ever be the same.

QE was 27 when she became queen. That's a huge advantage to be seen (literally) as a young sovereign. Even as she aged, people still remembered her being young with the crown. There are photos of her as a young sovereign.

Charles longevity is a wild card. He's been looking horrible for some time now. I don't see anything charming about him at all. JMO.

Over the past ten years, Kate has slowly become more popular. IMO, her popularity will eclipse's William's. William does seem to have an angry edge. I hope he doesn't get all jealous of Kate (like how Charles got all jealous of Diana's popularity).

William has had and will have mistresses. It just needs to be hidden.

William, like his father is jealous of everything and it will probably be his undoing

Young QE in a crown.

r48 you're the idiot. By 2051 Charlotte, Louis and George will all have children of their own so yes Archie will be WAY down the line of succession.

^ I'm out...

I can't see r29

One can't make jokes on Brf threads. One has to maintain a stiff upper moustache.

R29 is another stupid race-baiting meme that completely disregards Archie's obvious whiteness or the fact that the succession is enshrined in law and not decided by who's popular on Twitter this week.

[quote] by the Harkles,

One really must die in a grease fire.

Harry is the Fredo of the BRF

Maybe 15 years ago, I would have commented "beloved" if only for the Diana halo effect.

But honestly, he's turned out to be a pretty big nothing. There's really no there there.

Charles and Camilla will smarm and smear on for decades before Will and Waity Katie come close. Prince Andrew's friends Ghislaine Maxwell and Kevin Spacey came closer to the throne.

My local rugby club yells Bittttyyyyyyy! Everytime he appears on the club screen. The laying in Carole's Lap getting his hair stroked just came off as Bittttttyyyyy

It's funny to see people try to make Kate a "thing," however. She must be horrified at the thought of actually having to work. Hiding under Sophie's pantsuits can only last for so long.

Unlike his parents, William has a partnership in his marriage. Whatever the state of their romance, Kate is his teammate. If she's more popular, good for them.

I don't think we're gonna make it that far. Charles is gonna destroy the monarchy like he and his generation destroy everything they touch.

I've always had a feeling that Charles won't outlive his mother. The Queen may very well pass the crown directly to William in a few years.

William is surly and unhappy. Comes from being a total baldy at a young age. He is angry that fate has made him so ugly.

And people do not want to see a walking egghead on their TV screens all the time. There is absolutely nothing romantic about him and of course Charles has nothing either. Both of them have got awful optics. And if the royal family is about anything it's optics.

R50 your entire post is incorrect. Go back to Montecito and try again honey.

Yes, William will be a popular king. His job is to represent the nation and act as a unifying symbol. He will be good at that, he's dignified and respectful but also concerned and interested in people. He also obviously has a very clear idea of his role and what is expected of him.

We also don't need to see the royal family on TV every day.

"Unlike his parents, William has a partnership in his marriage."

There are three of us in this "partnership"...

@r57...

He will greatly benefit from being crowned right after his grandmother but I think Charles will get his 5 minutes in the big chair. Charles is an old man, I doubt he can cause much harm to the monarchy. If he is a disaster then it’s to William’s benefit. But I’m glad others can have a largely Meghan and Harry free conversation about the BRF on DL!

I’m also glad others can acknowledge the simmering rage that seems to lurk under William’s facade. I know many think that it’s nice that he’s cold as ice like his great-great grandparents or royals of the past. Being isolating and cold is not going to work moving forward. This is why other royal houses have such a more relaxed atmosphere than the Brits. Along with a slimmed down monarchy. It’s clear as day that that’s the pathway to survival. People want a warm, harmless to look towards. Not assholes. This stiff upper lip thing is also slipping. Every day Brits seem to act more like Americans. Whipped into media frenzies. Vote for conservative idiots. Emotional. Racist. Losing their footing in the world.

I think everything rests on Charles. Will he outlive his mother, will he have a long or short reign, will there be a regency for out of sorts Charles in 20 years? Will Kate eat a sandwich (I’m joking she will never eat)? What will Queen Camilla get up to?

Whatever he does, Will better keep Kate close. Not that anything can keep her from the consorts’ jewels.

R17 Charles is also a bit crazy. Who married a 20 year old when you’re 32. Ew. Also who chooses Camilla over Diana? He’s had everything on easy street it still complains. That goes for everyone in that lucky family.

At least Charles takes his role seriously as a birth right. William takes it on as a burden, considering how much he seems to hate doing the job.

[quote]He shouldnt have let his hair go like that

I kind of agree, but I doubt he would have been able to (or allowed) to wear a hairpiece.

Edward looks better bald than William does, maybe because he always looks so pleasant and engaged while William turned dour several years ago.

^ They both look like knobs

Charles genuinely likes Camilla, she's your typical horsey aristocratic wife, with that peculiar kind of earthiness that some women like her adopted in the 60s and 70s, thinking it made them more modern. She doesn't care enough about much of anything to make a fuss, and a lot of straight men want that in a wife.

He does indeed complain when he has very little (if anything) to complain about and as we've seen recently, he loves to run away or avoid an issue rather than solving it, and being married to a woman who spends her days thinking about gin and tiaras helps him remain a petulant little manchild.

Willian is a big time loser.

^ He will be crowned "King Stick-up-his-Ass"

Harry has always been a mess, R49, the Palace PR did an astonishng job with his image. I doubt he was a stable, measured confidant to William, more of a burden, embrassment and concern. He and Meghan are birds of a feather.

I read that he is a bit sensitive and has a temper.

He fell out of love with Kate years ago.

William and Catherine visited the Air Cadets today.

r79 and friends, this is not about Harry and Meghan. I don't want that conversation derailing this thread. Keep it up and you will be forced to watch 3 seasons of Suits while in timeout.

The Queen as a very old woman still has a great sense of command about her. Charles and William are two slugs who can dress up as royals but they're two average blokes at a Halloween party. This only points out the uselessness and waste of the monarchy. Any shine they have is being adjacent to Elizabeth. Charles looks like an idiot wearing a crown. All you see are his ears. William will have to keep his on with plenty of scotch tape. Kate will be always saying your crown is on crooked.

Watch for a steep rise in calling out for an abolishment of the monarchy. The monarchists will shrink drastically in numbers.

William to me seems boring, cranky, a little spoiled but mostly okay, just like every other European monarch that we rarely hear about. By the time he's king, Charles will have pared back the monarchy, plus the popularity of the monarchy will have waned naturally after QEII is gone.

Charles may do a few crazy things to keep peoples' interest, but William won't.

I said in another thread that women are simply more interesting as modern monarchs. Take the funeral for example. Kate and her photo-op (she personally knows the photographer and they planned for this gorgeous shot) gave the people a look and feeling for the moment. It has style, drama, and beauty. Something no male, beyond the future Queen George, will be able to portray in a boring old suit. Queens wear crowns and tiaras which make every banquet all the more interesting.

So Kate will be the power in their marriage. William will be the boring stiff, much like George VI and the Queen Mum, minus a Wold War to boost their popularity.

Once again, love her or hate her, that's a damn good photo. She and her team know what they are doing. William was lucky to find her.

I don't care for Kate either but she looked lovely at the funeral. I thought Anne looked good, too. Andrew looked like a stuffed potato.

William and Kate are and will be the darlings of the British Royal Family, and he will make an excellent, popular king. Kate will make an excellent, popular queen.

r87 Kate needs to fucking eat. It's scary how thin she is but everyone acts like this is normal. The bitch is going to fall down when she starts wearing QEII's tiaras if she doesn't put some meat on her bones.

So much to agree with here- r31, r33, r37

r86, you are so right on.

About Kate, I'm reminded of Truman Capote's words about Babe Paley: "Babe Paley had only one flaw: she was perfect. Otherwise she was perfect."

Kate as bore is part of her perfection; it's required in the job description- Queen Consort, aka, Frau-A-Saurus Apex; Potentate of Karenshire, and I write that as a compliment.

William, hell the entire BRF, is damn lucky she decided to take on the job AND William who, as others have pointed out, has all the charisma of the 10 lb. bag of powdered cement leaning against the corner in my garage.

[quote] Andrew looked like a stuffed potato

lmao!

Bitch, I'm gagging. r90 I nearly spit out my drink.

[quote] William who, as others have pointed out, has all the charisma of the 10 lb. bag of powdered cement leaning against the corner in my garage.

The issues of the moment are climate and species extinction. William’s reign will coincide with environmental disaster, which he is passionate about, and thank god. I despise Harry at this point, but I am so disappointed that he seems to have more or less abandoned his work on behalf of endangered species. Doing random shit with MM will never ever have the impact it would have had if Harry had stayed a real prince. There are life and death issues at play here.

R73 He chose Camilla because you nurtured him in a way his mother could not. He was with nannies often and away at birding school. He didn't want to take care of infantile Diana, he was the infant needing care.

r50 She was 25 not 27. She was born April 1926, her father died February 1952 That is the point she became Queen on the throne and why the jubilee celebrations are next year 70 years on. 1953 is the year she was coronated which is different to when she became Queen.

I think a missing component in this discussion is what kind of shape will the UK be in 10-15 years from now? How will they rebound from the pandemic & remake themselves after Brexit? If the country is in some kind of recession, it seems logical that they'll have less patience for the BRF, no matter how lovely they are (or aren't). People with fond memories of the BRF will be dying off with a new generation that views them in a different coming to power. Those factors - as much as the kind of guy William is (I think he tries to be what people want him to be) factor into how the BRF persists into the next generation

Harry was a big game hunter. His concerns are phony. His only real concern is living the life of a billionaire. That's why the marriage won't last and he'll have to go back to the royal family.

I like Will. The Queen is bringing him along very well, and the slimming down of the Monarchy angle will give a contemporary feel. I am looking forward to the Jubilee next year as well as the other events...I want some pageantry dammit

Harry will get out of the marriage and leave the US well before his 40th birthday when he stands to inherit from the Queen Mother. Meghan will take every last dime he has and he'll go crying back to Daddy.

THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT HARRY AND MEGHAN!!! Please, we don't want to get into that tit for tat. This thread is about the royal wallpaper known as Prince William.

William was always shy and reserved he hates the public and I think it causes him anxiety.

His upbringing and mother’s death deeply affected him but on the flip side he seems to understand what is expected of him and he is doing a fine job so far.

At times he looks like he is angry but I think that is just his facade to hide his true feelings. The large jaw doesn’t help.

I am sure William must resent his carefree brother’s lifestyle knowing that he cannot just do what he wants and instead must do what is expected of a future king.

^^^Why would William, or anyone, resent or be jealous of the hell on earth that is Megsy Markle on the Hollywood hamster wheel (shudder)?

R102 Because he's bald.

R101 I can imagine that it must be difficult to have a life where every need and whim is catered to. Imagine the stress that comes along with attending ribbon cutting ceremonies? He has my deepest sympathy.

I don't think Harry will make a good King but he seems to be the only human who gets William to lighten up. Laugh, or get a kick out of something. I'm betting the older William gets, the more smug and superior he will become. And that doesn't go over so well.

Not that the Americans here would understand the issue, but William, as head of the Football Association, spoke out against attempts to create a European Super League, and is now talking about reforms to the game. This is about as down to earth and as close to the people you can get.

The Cambridge PR game is in a different stratosphere than the Harkles, R106, that was a clever move. And they have even taken George to watch a game, sitting in packed stands, unlike Meg at Wimbeldon.

2 future kings sit in ordinary seats to enjoy the game, vs. MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME who displaced people who had bought tickes to booster her narc ego.

This lady on tik tok pointed out that he is always wearing that blue sweater to appear normal.

And how is he supposed to appear in a casual photo with his grandparents and children? Abnormal? Maybe it's his favorite sweater and he wears it a lot.

It's not PR r107, it's William's actual job. He's president of the English Football Association. The royals are meant to be out there doing things, it's not PR and they don't even need PR.

I see your point, R111, but it is also good for HIS public image, and not saying that is why he took the position.

[quote]R101 I am sure William must resent his carefree brother’s lifestyle knowing that he cannot just do what he wants

He certainly CAN “just do what he wants”, and walk away like any ration person would.

It’s not like the police would chase him down.

Don't kid yourselves. If William becomes king, Kate will insist on running the Royal shit show.

R103 I would remind you that Prince Harry's current Friar Tuck look will disappear within the next 2 years and he too will be completely bald.

William obviously listens to his advisors--the attendance in the stands at the football game was a fantastic bit of PR. Contrast it with clearing out an entire section of Wimbledon: No publicist worth their salt would have condoned that, but some people will go their own way . . .

I'm going to disagree that Kate/Catherine is anorexic. Whenever I see her upper body, "sandwich" & "protein shake" also come to mind.

But, she's had the same body type since university and had three thriving & healthy kids since then. What convinced me? Her "modeling" pictures from St. Andrew's. Her thighs were muscular and larger in proportion to her body. Even better these sailing photos. Such an undernourished WAIF.

I HATE MEGHAN!!!

More of the "malnourished" Duchess of Cambridge.

Sure...

...at Burger King!

Klan Grannies really can't help themselves, can they?

My personal theory is that once Queen Elizabeth dies, broader support for the monarchy will die with her. Australia will leave, the New Zealand, then Canada. I have a lot of personal affection for the Queen because she's been apart of the cultural conversation for more than 70 years. It's generational. I don't give a flying fuck about Charles, nor any of his offspring. I really don't want to see his dumbo ears on our money.

The Klan Granny shit is so tedious. The real reasons for the dislike of Meghan on DL has been outlined repeatedly, it has nothing to do with her race.

^ the more sophisticated Sunshine Sachs trolling team has been called up, apparently.

Do they command more $$/post since they use more words in cohesion in sentences where "Klan" and "Granny" are not exclusively used as subjects or objects of incredibly simple sentences constructed from really, really bad boiler plate?

This thread reeks of Wind Song perfume, stale cigarettes, coffee, and urine.

I also think the ones posting about "Klan Grannies" are paid to be here. It just reeks of PR. And they are only here at certain times, like shift workers.

It wasn't all that long ago that you boys were accusing Kate of faking three pregnancies and using surrogates. Now she's suddenly become your candle in the wind?

"You boys?"

Fucking kill yourself, frau.

Just put them on ignore.

I've had so many incarnations on my ignore list over the past several months. After a week or so, there are no posts under "Ignored User __" They've just gone off and started under a new account/new e-mail. That takes paid dedication, though I imagine they laugh and wince as they post the weird "klan granny" shit they've been dictated from above as their approved scripts.

[Quote]accusing Kate of faking three pregnancies and using surrogates.

Now, SS is sending unbriefed personnel. 😂

Is it possible to grade Sunshine Sachs' bad, ineffective trolling/PR efforts on a Yelp type of app? Because they look really bad even to the plebs.

Knock it off with the " Sunshine Sachs'" crap you delusional royalists. You are all nothing but a bunch of stinky, stupid British Fraus who think they can single-handedly change the global narrative on how the royals are perceived. You can't, you make it worse. The world knows who and what they are and even their own family members are jumping the sinking ship know as the British monarchy

Take your racist, xenophobic garbage back to Frausville. This is an American site designed for GAY MEN. You are NOT welcome or wanted here. Your pussies stink as bad as your personalities. FUCK OFF

Megz, we are more popular than ever at home and remain popular abroad. Wish we could say the same for you and Haz! As far as stinking pussies go, the odor emanating from yours wafts all the way from the west coast. Might one suggest a vinegar-based product for you? We have some we could pass along.

Kate feels badly that her Chris Jackson funeral photo went viral and global. We know how much that affects you. We send you both our love! Say hello to Opes and Gayle for us will you? Ciao.

RE William's blue jumper (sweater, for the Yanks), I know so many British men (I am an American living long term in UK) who wear the same jumper for decades. Brits, especially rich ones, buy high quality items once and wear them to literal death. It's quite eccentric and charming (and sometimes kind of gross). I live in an area with a reasonable number of old money types, and they are the ones in the local pub wearing the jumper with the most holes, in the grubbiest jeans and wearing muddy wellies. William's blue jumper doesn't surprise me even one little bit. Neither do Harry's holey shoe soles.

R131 They are NOT British. British people have an understanding of how the monarchy works and don't use nonsense terms like 'HRM'.

Moreover, British people don't care enough to be as obsessed as these lunatics. Even the most mentally ill, royalty-obsessed Brit wouldn't be so ridiculously paranoid to even begin to think some PR agency is employing people to post on a tiny site like Datalounge. These are LSA rejects.

🦉 What is "birding school" r94 ?

The blue sweater could be worse, he could be wearing a crop top like some other Kings.

When Charles becomes king his face will be on all the money. Not immediately of course. It will be gradual as the money circulates and old money can be replaced with new.

Charles is boring as fuck, not mention married to that hideous and disgusting Camilla. Sadly, by now, it has become quite evident that William is also a complete, pompous bore with a stick up his ass. Nobody even cares about Kate.

[quote]Knock it off with the " Sunshine Sachs'" crap you delusional royalists.

One of the assholes who insisted I was part of Meghan's PR about two weeks ago gushed all over me about five days later because I said Kate had looked good in a photo.

These people are so fucking egotistical, they think someone is sending PR people here FOR THEM because what they said on Datalounge is just THAT important.

Deranged gossip ladies have been doing this for nearly two decades now, it's cliche for the obsessed to pretend like they're being watched by whatever celebrity it is they're obsessing over; they're essentially the Prancing Ponies, but they'd never admit it.

A lot of rich men have one favorite sweater, often in need of repair; that's what the Chris Evans sweater in Knives Out was supposed to evoke.

PR firms have people posting on forums and social media all the time. That's a standard practice in the industry.

R121 thank you for your contribution to the DL, Meghan.

R142, fuck off somewhere else. This was a pleasant thread about William until you stupid ladies showed up and ruined it again. I swear, I think "fuck up the gay website" is one of your actual goals.

R143 it's the LSA Harkle obsessives who have invaded the DL. A bunch of homophobic black women. They can fuck off.

[quote] The real reasons for the dislike of Meghan on DL has been outlined repeatedly, it has nothing to do with her race.

Utter tripe. It’s because her blackness and Americanness “soiled” the Englishness of the royal family. It’s typical small-minded British parochialism.

I don’t give a shit about her either way, but the above fact can be seen from fucking space. Do us a favour and get a life.

[quote] Harkle

Kindly die in a grease fire, Nige.

Andrew is a pedo, Margaret was a harridan, and none of the Meghan trolls said a fucking word. Even Phillip was a small minded rude prick of the first order. Yet this girl at the periphery of the RF is world war three? Jesus wept.

Call it whatever you want. There are PR people. And there are liars. And there are just plain evil posters.

🤥None of them can be trusted to tell the truth.

[quote]RE William's blue jumper (sweater, for the Yanks), I know so many British men (I am an American living long term in UK) who wear the same jumper for decades. Brits, especially rich ones, buy high quality items once and wear them to literal death.

Did you see the articles recently about Philip's shoes? The shoes he wore at his wedding 73 years ago were still in his wardrobe. He would regularly have them resoled and/or reheeled and still wore them.

Give Sunshine Sucks credit where it is due, R144.

What is Harry's excuse for repeatedly wearing shoes with a big hole in the sole, R149? He is a slob whose exterior matches his soulless interior. It is abundantly clear why he chose his wife.

Wrong r145. It's because she's a shameless grifter who treated the Monarchy like a reality show she was the star of. She got smacked down but good.

Too many borderline psychotics with their Markle obsessed souls at the Lounge.

Losers never know when to quit.

But you're posting here r153

You’re not that powerful, Meghasaurus/R121.

[quote] Wrong [R145]. It's because she's a shameless grifter who treated the Monarchy like a reality show she was the star of. She got smacked down but good.

Please. She was making millions of dollars a year as an actress in Hollywood. She gave that all up to be a drudge for a nowhere position constantly getting dragged in front of a bunch of pasty faces Brits, which the UK sewer press hoses her down 24/7 with diarrhea because, as said, not English enough for the RF.

Nice horse and buggy thinking though.

Millions of dollars a year as a supporting character on a basic cable channel TV show? Guess again.

Meghan stans love to fantasize about the Monarchy ending because of Harry and Meghan's hurt fee-fees, but it will never happen. Nobody cares about their feelings except the Sussexes and their deluded fans, and there aren't nearly as many of those as their PR would like you to think.

R156 You are full of shit, MM was not making millions of dollars a year on a cable show nobody knew about until she started dating Harry.

I don’t care about her skin color, sadly her pretty face hides an ugly individual on the inside.

r156 she was a D List nobody in a featured role on a shit cable series filmed in Canada. She was looking at 40 and knew it wasn't going to get any better. She saw an opportunity in Harry and grabbed the fuck out of it. Unfortunately, she apparently knew nothing about hereditary Monarchies and there was no way she was going to be the star in that family.

R84 OK I was eating when I read about the scotch tape and almost choked.

I do love the Megstans who act as though she was on Game of Thrones or Lost or...insert global hit television show of your choice.

I'd heard of Suits, but it was not a hit. A steady paycheck (which most working actors would kill for), but your girl wasn't being invited to the Oscars...

I'll take Harry and Meghan ANY DAY over bitter with a stick up his ass, William and bland as fuck Kate!

True, that, R159.

Speaking of millions, there was an article in which someone in PR estimated the cost of their PR in early 2020 as over 7 million pounds. Will try to find a link.

To what end?

Apparently their PR flacks find them just as difficult to work with as everyone else does, lol. Thus, a negative brand despite a fortune spent.

The problem with H & M is they cheapen themselves with each interview. Each Interview begs the question of why the hell are we treating these people like "royalty?"

Even W &K. What's so special about pretending they're higher up on the food chain? People are going to get tired of funding this zoo charade.

It's about as asinine as starting a charity for Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk.

'Deranged gossip ladies have been doing this for nearly two decades now, it's cliche for the obsessed to pretend like they're being watched by whatever celebrity it is they're obsessing over; they're essentially the Prancing Ponies, but they'd never admit it.'

The main frau here who types MEMEMEME and says that people who don't like Kate are trolls paid by Sunshine Sachs WAS one of the LOTR tinhats and was also a Larrie. She posts here manically and thinks everyone young and attractive in Hollywood is gay and bearding, and anyone who disagrees with her is a paid bot.

'PR firms have people posting on forums and social media all the time. That's a standard practice in the industry.'

This is the person I'm talking about - R141. She genuinely thinks that PR reps and social media managers are posting on DL threads. Check out her posting history for a trawl through insanity.

William will be head of state: His power is enshrined in law.

It's true that there's no need for an extended working Royal family, and that's why Charles, William, and the Queen are going to work on slimming down the BRF's roles and engagements over the next couple of years. The new crew will be HM, Charles and Camilla, William and Kate, Anne, and Edward and Sophie. Ancillary family members like the Yorks and the Sussexes will need to plan on keeping their day jobs. (Except for Andrew: Nobody wants to see him.)

Thirty years from now, working Royals will probably only be William & Kate, their children, and the children's spouses. Charles, Camilla, and Anne will be dead, and Edward and Sophie retired. God knows where Meghan and Harry will be.

You see thst, Sussexes? You aren't needed or wanted any more, so you should set about removing Will and Catherine from your pea brain frame of reference.

Even the young seem to see right through their mean girl antics.

r168 I'm neither female or insane. It's a common tactic for PR firms to do social media and forums. This is common knowledge.

r170 what about Edward and Sophie's kids?

PULA, CHIMPO, one wonders what the new child will be named.

Stealing this, it is to the point:

Dear Rachel with the Hot Mail, Glad to see the Count of Montecito, has returned. Just a quick question, who remembers the brother of Henry the 8th? Or the sisters of Elizabeth the First? Guess where you will be in History, darling. Ta Ta For Now

R172 Spiked?lol. No one reads that "I'm an angry white man grievance right wing shite site. The dude behind it is a tiny dick, bald head, ugly miserable Koch rentboy.

William is such a nothing that even his own thread can't be about him.

Shame.

I hope you find embraacing Meghan's victimhood brings meaning to your life, R177.

If Charles dies before being crowned, the media will go berserk. We will never hear the end of it.

R177 You read Spiked. You can't talk about "victimhood".

Meghan will fade away in time. She's getting older and William's kids are going to grow up and be the center of attention.

[quote] Millions of dollars a year as a supporting character on a basic cable channel TV show? Guess again.

She’s worth five million dollars. She came from a broken home and is mixed race. She earned every penny of that herself. How did the royal family members earn their income again? A sperm said hello to an egg.

[quote]Markle stans

“Markle stans” (n): anyone who’s not hoping and praying Meghan Markle dies in childbirth

I posted 1 article I saw online, R181. Unclench. Or don't. Live life in seething anger like Sugars do and rant about your "voice."

R183 Markle got her job on Deal or No Deal from her father. All her 'acting' (a term I use lightly) jobs she got from her ex Trevor. When he couldn't get her a better gig than Suits, she divorced him.

How do you know MM is worth $5 million, r183?

Elizabeth I had just one sister, fellow queen Mary I, AKA Bloody Mary.

Seek help, R183. Or tell the people who write your talking points they are sick fucks.

If somone in PR estimated that they spent $7 mil on PR in a fairly short period, someone worth $5 obv can't afford that. So WHO is paying for the take down the monarchy PR blitz and to what end?

[QUOTE] Thirty years from now, working Royals will probably only be William & Kate, their children, and the children's spouses. Charles, Camilla, and Anne will be dead, and Edward and Sophie retired. God knows where Meghan and Harry will be.

Poor bastards, still working in their 70s. Meghan and Harry will be retired and living a life of leisure, like most people in that age group.

QE2 must live another three years and thirty-six days in order to win the title of longest reigning monarch!

Do we think she'll make it?

[QUOTE] Markle got her job on Deal or No Deal from her father. All her 'acting' (a term I use lightly) jobs she got from her ex Trevor.

Sure, a lighting director got her cast in a game show. And who the fuck is Trevor? Neither he nor Thomas Markle had any clout. Meghan auditioned and got the roles.

[QUOTE] Seek help, [R183]. Or tell the people who write your talking points they are sick fucks.

Shut the fuck up, you paranoid moron. You really think industry people are paid to come here and argue with your nobody ass? Worms for brains.

The next 6 months will be telling. The new puppies will help.

💤💤 Please, tell me again why any of this matters?

🤓 Steven King is the most popular King.

Yes, Meghan Markle earned her money. She did diet, excercise, proper makeup, hair, wardrobe, nails, and is well spoken and can read her lines.

She was able to get Trevor to marry her. Shrewed and smart. There are other wives of celebrities that want to be famous and can't. Kelsey Grammer's real housewife ex.

There are tons of beautiful girls out there but they haven't climbed up like Meghan did. They work for Heidi Fleiss or are fat and bitter like Samantha Markle.

^Oh, R197, hon. NEVER have you been more accurate than your describing our Megsy as “shrewed.” lol

The Cambridges released this photo in honor of Prince Louis' 3rd birthday. And Meghan just had to be papped with Archie at the same time. She's not subtle, is she?

I remember there were several reports from the DM how lazy William and Kate are with their duties they would rather stay at their home and be pregnant and thn got a wake up call with H and M because how eager and determined they were to do their job.

Did you use your forefinger and mouth the words when you read those reports, R200?

Go away Sugar/KGT at R200. You may have a more gullible audience at Celebitchy.

Louis looks like a happy, confident child, the first day of school is exciting.

Given how twisted and unhinged MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME seems to be, probably for the best that she is on a different continent than the Cambridge children.

Daily Beast is today suggesting the fact the Meghan runs to her 'spokespeople' constantly to get mentions in the media is backfiring. Claiming she spoke to the Queen while Harry was in England was lese-majeste, trying to make it look like she's on great terms with the Queen herself even if everybody else hates her. Meghan ain't subtle.

Why couldn't you all keep to the topic at hand. I said this is not about Harry and Meghan. Can you all not come up with enough things to say about William to hold his own thread? Stop fucking around.

[quote] I can't imagine any Brit born after 1980 caring about this.

During WWII, the Queen was a real inspiration to the British people, and I think many people truly respect her for that.

When has Charles ever inspired the nation that he will soon rule? Didn't he blame 9/11 on climate change or something?

Link to the assertion re: Charles, R205?

Why would a girl that was never in harms way and did an easy mechanics gig be an inspiration? The Queen Mother was more useful during WWII than Elizabeth.

HM was in danger simply by remaining in the UK due to bombings, the Blitz and the V=2 Rocket attacks. There were widespread calls for the two young princesses to be be evacuated to Canada for the duration of the war.

[quote] Why would a girl that was never in harms way ...

You don't think Hitler wanted to see the entire British royal family wiped out? Well, except for Edward VIII and Wallis, I mean.

Off-topic, but on-topic for WWII. I've been watching Atlantic Crossing about the Norwegian Royal Family. The Crown Princess fled with her children to the US and may have had an affair with FDR. The King and the Crown Prince lived in Buckingham Palace with the Brit Royal family.

I love Meghan Markle!

If William was married to some dowdy plain-Jane who stayed behind the scenes, his popularity (either as prince now or as king at some point) would be dismal. Fact is, she LOOKS like royalty, he does not.

She looks and acts like TRASH, R212.

It's really hard to estimate how popular he will be once he ascends to the throne. His and Catherine's popularity has received a boost by Megxit and that ill-considered interview. I think that a substantial amount of the approval and good will they receive from the public is a halo effect from having three very cute, photogenic children and appearing to be good, nurturing parents. The latter resonates with almost everyone. Who knows how this will unfold once the kids become teens and likely will create a little havoc. Probably not on a Harry scale, but teens, you know?

Another thing is how people react to the pared down monarchy. Not the part about limiting working royals to the immediate family, but the inevitable dumping of a large number of patronages and charities if the remaining senior royals don't start taking on A LOT more engagements that's going to lead to a lot of grumbling and resentment. If they start working like Anne, I can see popularity remaining.

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I blocked the rabid Megstan and half the thread disappeared.

ALittleFacetious, Near a Pleasant Grove, United States, 1 day ago

William understands his role. He will do what he needs to in order to protect his family and the Constitutional Monarchy. Harry has never wanted to be a part of it. It's a shame he felt the need to try to tear it down simply because he didn't want to be part of it. Forgiveness has nothing to do one way or another with what needs to happen.

I don't think Harry never wanted to be part of the constitutional monarchy/royal family. On the contrary, I think he was very settled in it and never reflected on what it meant. He seems to have been very spoilt and overly indulged. He had all the lordliness without any of the responsibility. He seems to be shocked at the idea that he can't simply do whatever he wants and there are limits to his privilege. He never understood that there's a trade-off for his position, in that he has to serve the public in return. Of course, if he really felt that wasn't for him, he could have stepped back and led a less high-profile life and done his own thing with the occasional public role. But, what Harry wanted was for everyone to still think of him as the cute, fun, cool, young prince and to be a part-time royal/part-time Hollywood celebrity.

'There were widespread calls for the two young princesses to be be evacuated to Canada for the duration of the war.' They would have been in grave danger of being killed on the way there. Bombed in a ship and shot down in a plane. Safer to stay on the ground.

The Duke of Windsor wanted the same thing. He kept trying to horn in on his brother's duties and the running of the government after his abdication. It took him a long time to understand that out was OUT. I guess when you spend the first thirty-odd years of your life having everyone tell you 'yes,' it's a huge shock when someone finally says 'no.'

'Why would William, or anyone, resent or be jealous of the hell on earth that is Megsy Markle on the Hollywood hamster wheel (shudder)?'

Because she can get off it in her 60s and retire. He can't. His life will ramp right up in his 60s with the nightmare of being king and all the associated work and tedium, plus the expectation to live in ugly, draughty palaces like Windsor and Balnoral. William would love a house like the Montecito one.. Both he and Kate are hoes for warm climates. I remember when they ditched six month old William and went to the Maldives for two weeks.

[quote] 💤💤 Please, tell me again why any of this matters?

It's a welcome distraction from the state the world is in.

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The way Kate exploits her kids with all these photographs is depressing. All three are ugly with those awful black Middleton eyebags. We've only had about six pictures of Archie in nearly two years whereas we've had dozens of Prince Louis, who looks like Pedrew.

R224 - you're a nutcase. If you're not the Megalomaniac or her publicists, you need to check into the closest psych ward.

R212, the plain jane is Rose she is William’s behind the scene relationship while Kate is the public one , she is probably fine with it and have an understanding.

R226 link to proof and not to some Meghan burner account on twitterr

We have a Maldives Troll

r183 Americans dont earn pennies thats british currency.They earns cents and you should know that given you referenced dollars correctly.

r191 1000% and is odds on to surpass the age of 100.

[Quote]the plain jane is Rose

I was shocked how she was described as a "former" model as she had no chin to speak of, a spectacularly bumpy nose, and caved, slumped shoulders. Her tits were pretty huge, though.

Would it be a foregone conclusion that she and her obviously gay husband Marques Cholmodelay wanted a mutually satisfiable and discreet relationship, only to be upturned by crazy Meghan activities in the Cotswalds that caught Giles Coren's eye?

Wouldn't it be weird & funny if the Cholmodelays opened up and owned their respective sexualities?

But it could never be the case with primogeniture laws that still prevail in the U.K.

Kate has many admirable qualities and she hasn't put a foot wrong. But I think few would disagree that she would be unlikely to keep a man sexually enthralled over 20 years. It is probable PW has had a number of dalliances and possibly affairs which Kate may or may not have known about. But Rose Hanbury was her friend, and part of the same small social circle, and understandably that was a bridge too far for Kate. No one likes to be ridiculed or pitied, and Kate's position among the aristos has always been shaky.

Why would Kate be threatened by an alleged relationship with a slumpy, chinless lesbian?

Surviving Angel/R29, what are you talking about Willlis? Do you not get out much? Pennies are American currency, too. We call them both pennies and cents.

R224 Do stop trying to make Pedrew happen. Seriously - it’s only ever you, and nobody picks it up and runs with it.

R235 - pedophile who defends pedophiles and gets upset when they're given mean nicknames.

The PEDO of York.

Prince PEDREW

The Harkles have been a tremendous gift to the image of the Cambridges, one that keeps giving.

Americans use pennies too, we even have a coin called the penny. Lincoln is on it.

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R231 Are you serious? Do you think a straight man cares about those petty things?

Kate's pug stub nose isn't that great and plenty of beautiful middle easterners have an aqualine nose. Grow the fuck up.

Why would anyone choose horsey Camilla over Diana? Maybe they aren't shallow?

One will never be able to say that of MeAgain, R238. The entire WORLD is grateful that William was born first.

Harris is not right in the head and is treasonous. He should be removed from the line of succession.

Kate is so much prettier than Rose who I find to be very plain. If Rose is considered model material in U.K. than Kate must be a super model.

Tragic W & K merching Maldives holidays. They're nothing more than influencers.

Standards of beauty for both men and women are much lower in the UK. And I am saying that as an Anglophile.

[quote] Standards of beauty for both men and women are much lower in the UK.

I know. Every time I see a picture of Oscar Wilde I think "How did that guy ever get laid?"

Kate isn't pretty at all. Thin lips, dry wrinkled skin. Like William, she's ageing badly.

R246, if you look in the lower left of that page, in a really tiny font, you can see "© Archwell Industries".

R246 - moving from thread to thread with your repetitive insults and posts. You are not convincing anyone. Now, go play in traffic because you type like an angry and jealous juvenile delinquent.

Oscar Wilde was Irish, r245.

R249, that's just a minor province of England.

[Quote]Kate's pug stub nose isn't that great and plenty of beautiful middle easterners have an aqualine nose. Grow the fuck up.

Sir, either you need a picture dictionary or pair of reading glasses if you think the shnoz on Hanbury is "AQUILINE." (I'm so grown up I know how to spell).

BTW, what do beautiful Middle Easterners have to do with any of this?

It is clear who leaked the story of Harry's lunch at a private club, and the story of Rose as well.

The Harkles have no upcoming projects, no wonder they did not promote their brand on Oprah.

Spiteful, lazy and childish. Karma will not be kind.

You can’t possibly know that, r232. She may be an absolute freak in bed. Only William would know.

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Uhm, no, r250.

Harry and Meghan don't want to do the hard work of producing content for Spotify or Netflix. They want what they've always wanted: The glow of royalty and the perks of worldwide fame without doing anything to earn it. Even the schedule of a senior working royal, where nearly everything is done for them except showing up and listening, was beyond them.

That's why Harry talked angrily about getting cut off financially in the Oprah interview; that's why Meghan was visibly enraged over Archie being denied a title. They want continuing fame, status, and riches without doing any work. In that, they fundamentally misunderstand LA: It's a company town where successful people work their butts off to get and keep what they have.

They appear to be extremely lazy, R256.

They were so cringe way back pitching to Disney, imagine now with desperation layered in?

MeAgain not only has delusions about politics, she does not seem to "see" herself in the mirror. She should have hired a Suits stylist and slavishly followed their advice. Look how terrrible she looks. Beyonce is not svelt or petite but she dresses in a way that flatters her body. That said, not only was Iger taken aback, his wife, Bey and Jay Z all had 2nd hand embrassement.

At least her hair was not hanging in scraggly hanks, but the dress was not properly fitted.

And then came the quote about Meghan needing Disney more than Disney needed her and about her being a controvesial figure. And that was BEFORE the bullying investigation or Oprah or the leaks of family convos and private lunches. They have made themselves radioactive and worked HARD and consistently to do so. Baffling.

Meghan's one talent is catching and using higher-status men with connections. Now that things with Harry are starting to go sour, I'm sure she's casting an eye about for a better prospect--she'd love a major Hollywood player or a Silicon Valley billionaire. The problem is, come August she'll be 40 years old with 2 kids, and her time with the BRF was so short that she never acquired the real patina of Royalty. She hasn't shown herself to be a loyal, supportive, or discreet partner, and those are traits that most powerful men prize.

Diana she isn't, and even Diana had trouble finding suitable partners post-divorce. It's why she died in Paris with Dodi Fayed.

Exactly so, R258, although both have/had serious mental issues. Wendi Deng seems to do just fine, but she is not batshit and she is discrete. MeAgain would have been wise to emulate her. Had she done so, or been ABLE to do so, things would have gone quite differently with the BRF at many key points.

I do not see her being able to move on from Harry easily. The Harkles are their own worst enemies. Playing at thugs and lawsuits to generate income!

Had Meghan put in a solid 10 years of Royal work promoting causes and charities for people of color both in the UK and the Commonwealth, she might have garnered enough credentials and fame on her own to cut Harry loose and go her own way on the international stage. But patience is not Meghan's strong suit.

She seems to really be spinning out in 2021.

Will and Kate send greetings and goodies on Anzac Day.

What was that? It looks line falafel.

Anzac biscuits - traditionally baked on Anzac Day.

Ah, an oatmeal cookie. 😃 Thanks, r3.

Meghan's constant 'briefings' to the media (I spoke to the Queen!) and pap walks are starting to get noticed and not in a good way. She's a user and Hollywood power players aren't going to waste time on lazy, publicity-mad pseudo royals. She's sinking rapidly to the rank of Real Housewife of Montecito..

Hard to believe that both William and Catherine are older now than Diana was when she died. I think they are both above average looking and also committed to their work, their family and the Firm. Only irresponsible bipolar buffoons think being responsible and doing a good job is boring. Of course it's something they could never do so they trash it.

R267 I think the issue is Meghan was a D lister pushing 40 with no career opportunities opening up for her. She figured she had to strike big before she was past her Hollywood sell-by date. And when she married Harry she must have been over the moon getting all the publicity she hadn't managed to get in her 'career'. But the Royal family is supposed to last a lifetime and trying to be constantly in the news is the way to wear out your welcome.

Had Diana lived, after 40 she would have started to be ignored by all and sundry.

Agreed. Dying at 36 turned Diana into an icon. A lot of younger people don't remember or weren't born that last summer of 1997. Diana was CONSTANTLY in the tabloids and everybody was sick of her.

I am not reading any off topic posts in thus thread about the you-know-whosits.

Diana would never have been totally ignored, because she would always be William's mother, but she too would have eventually mellowed and found a balance in her life and with her ex-husband. She was also glamorous, charismatic, beautiful, etc. so would have had several years more of being a media attraction, but eventually she would have found her place, perhaps a new partner.

Correct r268. Meghan was hardly a Jennifer Aniston or a Julia Roberts. She was a D List actress on a basic cable show who nobody had heard of. She was heading towards 40 and it wasn't going to get any better for her. She thought the Royal Family would make her a "Star" at last but that's not how a hereditary monarchy works. It really seems like she thought the Monarchy was some kind of reality show, which is insane.

[quote]Had Diana lived, after 40 she would have started to be ignored by all and sundry.

If Diana had continued to behave the same way, with all the inappropriate lovers and other things she did, into her 40s and 50s public opinion really would've turned against her.

It was turning already in the summer of 1997. She had the land mines initiative which got her some good press, but she really seemed to spiral during the Dodi Fayed affair. She'd have had to right herself quickly to save her reputation and her relationships with her sons. William was particularly unhappy with all of those headlines.

All things considered, Meghan might have been happier if she'd married that chef in Toronto and contented herself with her blog and being queen of that particular social set. Better a big fish in a little pond than whatever the hell she is now.

Markle has been infinitely luckier than she deserves with exes. That husband number one didn’t trash her to the press is the luckiest thing that ever happened to her. She left a lot of unhappy customers over the years. It is a miracle that none of them have denounced her in detail.

Trevor won't, but it doesn't mean others will be so circumspect.

Her first husband knows better. All that would do is bring her toxic bots down on his head. He's remarried to a nicer and far richer woman and lucky to be shut of his ex-wife.

[Quote]Her first husband knows better. All that would do is bring her toxic bots down on his head.

As much as knowing he would be a future target of his ex-wife, fully knowing what she's capable of with sharper claws and seemingly even more important boyfriends at each juncture?

The only thing that saved Meghan is that his new wife is a billionaire's daughter from a family that CLEARLY VALUES PRIVACY. He will never say a thing unless, perhaps, Meghan drowns one of her servants in the pool in a fit of pique and he's forced to "open up" again.

It's too bad, more than anyone connected to this soap opera, Trevor is the one I want to hear from. Imagine the insight he could provide. Also imagine his "wtf" reaction when he first heard she was serious with Prince Harry.

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Why will Kate be an HRG Queen like Elizabeth and yet Or is nice Philip was a prince and Camilla will be a Queen Consort?

Kate will be on equal terms with William and reign when he does?

Her first husband is said to be a lawyer in Boston who she met at Northwestern, it was annulled.

They don't really reign anymore. More like most popular person at the pagentry parade.

R282 - Kate will be Queen Consort like Camilla. If Philip was made King, he would have outranked his wife The Queen.

Kate will be Queen and she will be crowned as such ( nobody uses consort as part of the title) alongside King William V. Prince Philip was never King as r285 said it outranks Queen. Albert was titled Prince Consort but Philip not, I believe by choice. Charles will probably be crowned alone as the terms of his marriage seem to be Camilla never becoming Queen, we shall see.

For doubters here is the late Queen Elizabeth being crowned alonside her husband George VI at 13:35

Kate will be Queen and she will be crowned as such ( nobody uses consort as part of the title) alongside King William V. Prince Philip was never King as r285 said it outranks Queen. Albert was titled Prince Consort but Philip not, I believe by choice. Charles will probably be crowned alone as the terms of his marriage seem to be Camilla never becoming Queen, we shall see.

For doubters here is the late Queen Elizabeth being crowned alonside her husband George VI at 13:35

Are we supposed to believe MM really talked to the Queen after she threw the BRF under the bus?

Camilla will become Queen, r287 - just as she is actually today the Princess of Wales - but she just won't use the title. She may be referred to as the Queen Consort in Charles' coronation service, but that doesn't mean she has to use the title in day-to-day life.

George VI's brothers took part in his coronation. I wonder if that dimbo Harry will take part in his brother's coronation.

Who would have thought that young Princess Elizabeth, watching her father's coronation in 1935, would still be on the throne herself in the year 2021.

Markle can say anything she wants - the Royal family never responds. Which doesn't mean they aren't furious about her running to the media (which she claims to hate) to get her name in the news.

Poor Kate. She'll spend her 70s, 80s and 90s cutting ribbons and attending countless tedious events instead of relaxing and enjoying her old age, as Pippa will.

R288, I can imagine there was a brief call from the Montecito household to the Queen, during which Markle expressed her deeply-felt condolences, which the Queen accepted with good grace, but that's about it. All as a formality, not as an expression of intimacy.

Anne looks fierce. These boots are made for walking...

Thanks for your concern r291 but I don't think she cares much. She'll still be world-famous, powerful and looked up to by millions. A decent trade-off.

I wonder why people think the royal family cut ribbons. From William and Kate's Instagram page, it can be seen that their work involves the environment, the armed forces, cadet organisations, the health service, children and young people, mental health, sports as well as diplomatic representation of the country. Sure, some of it is probably boring (just as in any other job) but it's worthwhile and probably gives a lot of satisfaction for that reason.

R295 You're wasting your time. The majority of people in these threads think the Royal Family are living a life like a cross between Game of Thrones and Downton Abbey. They talk about people being sent to the Tower. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these days some idiot asks why "HRM" doesn't just set her dragons on Meghan.

What r295 and r296 said.

Yes, I noticed that the BRF live lives of wealth, status, and privilege. I wish humankind could figure a way to more evenly distribute those things, but, as of yet, we haven't.

I think the BRF is deeply misperceived. I think doing what they do is damn hard work.

It may not be physically laborious, but hell, I'd take that over the mental and emotional labor it takes to appear where they must, be "on" and live under expectations and duty that nobody else has to.

I wouldn't trade my life as an anonymous, lifestyle of the poor and obscure in good standing, for any of their lives.

And yes, I adore that old war horse Q E II. I hope her journey to death is pain-free and serene. She's earned it.

[quote]nne looks fierce. These boots are made for walking...

You gotta give the woman credit; anyone else would look ridiculous in that get up, particularly that hat, yet she somehow makes it work.

Side note: I am not saying this be the Face Mask Gestapo, but I'm kind of surprised she isn't wearing a face mask - not necessarily because the situation requires, but it's modeling good behavior.

R298 - I think she wore a face mask during the service.

R298 We don't have to wear facemasks when outside in the UK.

[Quote]I'd take that over the mental and emotional labor it takes to appear where they must, be "on"

And the emotional fallout of interacting with vulnerable populations - at risk children, seniors in nursing homes, AIDS hospices, sex workers, etc. - can't be easy. I'm not sure I could deal with it and I used to work in front lines (crisis care) mental health.

R298 different countries have had different responses to Covid and therefore different rules in place regarding masks, social distancing, quarantine etc.

I wonder if PW has any long term effects from covid, and PC as well. They both had covid at the beginning of the pandemic.

I read that William's was serious. Not hospitalization level, but very uncomfortable. I assumed due to his smoking habit. I don't know about Charles.

[quote] I can imagine there was a brief call from the Montecito household to the Queen

R292 don't you suppose Meghan also posted her concerns on Instagram, accompanied by an image of her text to the Queen?

It would have been positively medieval if our modern plague had taken out Charles and William, leaving William's seven-year-old son as heir to the throne after his aged great-grandmother. Thank God that didn't happen--can you imagine becoming King in your teens? Even if there was a regency, it would be terrible pressure to bear.

I hope this was a wake up call for both Cambridges to stop smoking.

[quote]I hope this was a wake up call for both Cambridges to stop smoking.

Not that there aren't multiple reasons that people smoke, but I often think of smokers as people who are wound extremely tight - fiercely trying to control an uncontrollable world. With the stress of trying to keep monarchy going after QEII, keeping up public appearances & dealing with loony/misbehaving relatives you can't really manage, I'll bet those two are wound very tight

Smoking also keeps your weight down, and you know that's a concern for Kate. Even though with her height, she could carry another 10-20 pounds just fine. It might even take a few years off of her.

Kate and William are smokers? Never heard that. Harry has been photographed smoking many times.

Kate and William have a different public image to keep up than Harry. Few people knew that Jackie Kennedy smoked like a chimney. Pictures of her smoking didn't come out until well after her time in the White House and marriage to Onassis when people started writing biographies and candid photos from people surrounding the Kennedys were included in the middle picture sections.

William really should stop. Smoking killed his great-aunt Margaret and his great-grandfather George VI when they were still fairly young.

*young by Windsor standards, anyway.

Maybe the Cambridges quit a long time ago.

It's not known if the Cambridges smoke or not. I'm leaning towards them being non-smokers because if they were smokers that info would've been *cough* "leaked" *cough* over the past year or so.

there was a Frenchwoman named Jeanne Calment who lived to be 127. She smoked like a chimney, she drank and loved rich meals. When she was asked how she'd managed to live so long she said it was because she's never had to have a job.

Not a good month for the Harkles

I'm not sure anyone ever wished that Harry was the first-born, but anyway.

(Aside from Meghan, when she realised that she wasn't going to be Queen by marrying Harry, that is.)

God, the British press just *hates* Scobie. I think they might hate him more than the Harkles

Scobie's a non-entity publicist mascarading as a journalist. That's why R319.

R317 You read the Sun? You have to be desperate.

R321--Well, that is who Smeggs leaks stories to, so yeah.

Prince Charles has taken over the patronage of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra from Prince Andrew.

Randy Andy isn't going to rehabilitate himself into resuming royal duties. That's good news.

The latest royal poll.

I'M the only popular William around

Will and Kate are carrying out engagements in Durham. First up, a visit to a farm.

That's good r323, in the sense that Charles is a big fan of classical music.

Kate is having fun with the tractor and the farm animals.

Can you imagine the Duch of Suck visiting farms, R328?

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Dan Wooten makes my skin crawl but cannot disagree with him here.

Andrew is another who never seems to learn.

Having decided to modernize the monarchy, the BRF will eliminate any ongoing or future role for the Harkles, thereby Markling them. It is what you said you wanted MEMEMEMEMEMMEMEMEMEME. Enjoy.

I have to laugh at the way William is running with lamb.

R324's poll shows that even now, only 14% of the public want Camilla to have the title of Queen.

Visiting farms, hospices, etc. is the boring work royals have to do. Meghan thought it would be all movie premieres where she could hobnob with the A listers who snubbed her when she was on a Canadian cable TV show.

R336 That’s what I imagine. And then returning to LA in triumph over all industry people who ever snubbed her as a working actress.

But instead she is merching funeral wreaths.

[quote]Visiting farms, hospices, etc. is the boring work royals have to do.

Actually, I think it would be kind of cool to give $$ to people via grants & then go visit to see what they did with it. It's like you're a real life Fairy Godmother. Granted, it would be depressing to visit old people homes - at my former job, we visited an assisted living facility at Christmas & it made me want to go home & blow my brains out rather than grow old & sit around in one of these places.

R339 Diana was wonderfully good with the elderly and afflicted. That was her at her very best, an absolute angel.

The same certainly can't be said for Dim and the Duch of Suckses, R340. The elderly have seen enough narcs to resist providing good supply.

Exactly what r336/37 said. That's been the essence of it all along.

Enjoying doing something for others requires empathy and compassion. You have to look beyond yourself. Narcissists don't ever look beyond themselves: Any charitable work they do is only to bring greater glory to their own egos. That's why Meghan couldn't enjoy the more humble charities where the focus is on the people in need.

MM visited ONCE to an old folks home. It couldn't be a normal home though, it had to be one for retired actors. Did she ask about their amazing careers on the London stage maybe? Of course not she blurbed on about her pregnancy and how she felt and bored them silly for 10 minutes before leaving. She did wear/merch a summer frock in the middle of winter though.

One that apppeared several sizes too small, R344. The only excitement of her visit was wondering if the seams would hold.

Meghan obviously thought she could pick and choose which jobs she would actually do. And it doesn't work that way so the newly minted diva threw a hissy fit.

Whatever the truth of Meghan's personality, she made a lot of HUGE life changes in a very short period of time. She left her native country and longtime career, got married, and had a baby in less than two years' time. What's more, the job, husband, and family she was taking on would have daunted anyone. No wonder she had a meltdown.

It would have been much better if she and Harry had dated for a longer period of time: Meghan should have moved to the UK and lived with Harry for at least a year or two before getting engaged. She could have continued her acting career in the UK in the meantime. However, there WASN'T time to do that because both Meghan and Harry's biological clocks were ticking. Meghan is getting in just under the wire with this second pregnancy, and it seems she had fertility problems (a miscarriage and potentially the need for IVF treatments) leading up to it. She couldn't even freeze her eggs and use a surrogate later because of the 'heirs of the body' succession rule.

The only way for her to do it was the way she did it, but the real question is, should she have done it at all? In hindsight, probably not.

[quote] She could have continued her acting career in the UK in the meantime.

"Acting career?" She was a D List nobody whose sell-by date was rapidly approaching.

Alleged miscarriage, R347. With that perfectly timed, partly plagiarised op ed piece in the NYT following.

How odd that Markle writes about a miscarriage just after her sister attention whore Chrissy Teighen got so much publicity for hers.

There were rumors that Kate had a miscarriage before George's birth. Diana did have a miscarriage between William and Harry. But note that in the former case, it's still only a rumor, and in the case of Diana, the news didn't come out until years later. Neither woman wrote an Op-Ed in the Times about it, acting as if she was doing this to encourage the British people to talk about a taboo subject when there is already a week in the UK devoted to Baby Loss Awareness. It was the same week Meghan's Op-Ed was published.

Will and Kate celebrate their 10th wedding anniversary tomorrow and this photo has been released.

Cue attention-grabbing pap shot of Meghan in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

The 2nd photo of Will and Kate.

r353 SOMEONE GET ME A DROWNING BABY TO RESCUE!

These wankers have finally decided to show a bit of Meghan and Harry style PDA.

R356 Well, it is their 10th anniversary, that’s appropriate.

A posed anniversary portrait in an empty courtyard outside Kensington Palace counts as PDA? You must have thought Liz and Phil were absolute insatiable whores when that one of them holding hands was released.

I love how Kate makes sure we can see the ring. We get it, girl: You WON.

The loss of William's hair should count as one of the great tragedies of the BRF; he's not a bad looking guy, but think about how much better he'd be if he had hair?

Whatever the case, mazel tov to the happy couple. I would've guessed they'd been married longer

It’s true, R360. He was stunning with hair. At least he can be proud of his girl’s thick, luscious locks.

The hair balanced out the top half of his face with that very strong Windsor jaw line.

That said, the baldness isn't so terrible now that he's approaching 40, as lots of middle-aged men suffer hair loss. It was really tragic he went bald so soon, though.

The picture above reminded me that in addition to hair, William had gorgeous skin as a young man--the flush of youth has since waned to a cold pallor. His bone structure will carry him all his life, but even with hair, Wills at 40 wouldn't be a patch on Wills at 20.

All the Windsors lose that bloom so quickly. The same thing happened to Edward. I know we all grey out as we get older, but the Windsors seem to do it faster than most.

William has big yellow horse teeth that he should get whitened.

I wonder if Meghan will send Harry for hairplugs as the top of Harry's head is shockingly unHarry.

[quote]The picture above reminded me that in addition to hair, William had gorgeous skin as a young man--the flush of youth has since waned to a cold pallor.

Yes, I forgot about that; he used to have Diana's beautiful English Rose complexion. I mean I guess he isn't as red as tomato like Charles, but he is awfully young for that youthful bloom to have faded already (it's usually 50 when you hit the wall)

Years of smoking will do that. Diana had lost the English rose look by her mid-30s too, though in her case it was due to excessive sunbathing. From all accounts, Diana didn't smoke. Of course, she looked better because she had the advantage of wearing makeup.

Lest we forget.

Charles has launched a Covid appeal for India.

Will, Kate and the kids.

William and Kate are not known to be smokers. It they were, I'm sure it would've been "leaked" to Gayle King or Omid Scobie.

Even if they had been, I would think they quit once they had children. That is when most former smokers give it up.

Who gives a shit if they smoked?

No one should. If they do, big if, they do not smoke in pubic and that is all that should matter. They seem to be excellent parents, so I can't see them smoking now, if they ever did. People who are jealous of Kate always say this try and put her looks down. Former wife had a very aged, wrinkled face without fillers, botox, and filters.

R374 Have you been drinking?

Here is her aged looking face

R375- Raging with jealousy ovet of all of the excellent media attention W&K have received? Not to mention that iconic picture of Kate, draped in the Queen's jewels. Choke on it.

R370, shame for Archie and his sister to grow up in a trashy celebrity filled milleau, isolated from family on both sides, purposely. It looks fun to be a Cambridge. But, Haz and his 1st wife wanted something very different.

[quote]William and Kate are not known to be smokers. It they were, I'm sure it would've been "leaked" to Gayle King or Omid Scobie.

CBS EXCLUSIVE: Gayle King Reveals that the BRF Tried to Kill Harry & Meghan with Second Hand Smoke!

Actually, considering the stigma around smoking in this country, the Harkles probably would've shaded them about exposing them to SECOND HAND SMOKE!

OP, he won't be a popular king because the monarchy will disintegrate. Castles will become museums. Traditions will end. The hierarchy of the Royal Family (as we have known it in our lifetime) will cease to exist.

R379-- Funny! And HFW ( Harry's former wife) is a heavy smoker, of more than one substance. Allegedly. She does smoke cigarettes, I don't know about Hazzard the Buzzard, but the fact that she smokes has been written about by the RR quite a few times. I believe that is the only reason she didn't "accidentally" comment about W&K smoking.

R380 there are 44 sovereign states on the planet with monarchs as heads of state. So DL troll is predicting their future. Beware royal families!

r379 the crazy thing is that I could actually see that happening for real.

HFW?

I can totally see Meghan having a screaming meltdown if she'd been exposed to one tiny whiff of cig smoke for half a second. "Who's smoking? I smell smoke! OMG! Who the hell is smoking? I can't believe this!"

We all know people like this.

R384-- Harry's former wife. Because it is only a matter of time. Hfw-- Harry's first wife.

The HFW troll is trying to make “HFW” happen, on every fucking thread.

It’s not working.

Could we please talk about Omid Scobie's self-hatred as an ethnic man who employed facial bleaching practices long before his association with the Sussexes?

Can we further delve into the Duchess of Suxesses' self-hatred as <50% African American who has a history of trying to diminish her black appearance, as Scobie tried to eradicate signs of his own Egyptian heritage through facial bleachers and radical facial plastic surgery.

Sorry. I forgot to link his ethnic, pre-surgical face.

However sad his self- identity may be lacking, he totally had his face butchered in the attempt to gain one.

Ack! Attempting link again! But nothing's pasting...

[QUOTE] shame for Archie and his sister to grow up in a trashy celebrity filled milleau, isolated from family on both sides

Montecito is an elite enclave between the hills and the ocean. M and H live in a very desirable property compared to ugly, red brick Kensington Palace, smack bang in polluted central London.

Archie has his only grandmother living close by. In London, his grandmother would be living 5000 miles away.

Growing up apart from W & K can only be healthy for Archie. Gay George and super bitch Charlotte will never get the opportunity to be patronising and harm Archie's self esteem by telling him he's inferior to them because Harry will never be king.

I believe Omid is half Iranian, half Scottish.

Oh Cristo Bendito, r374. Get a grip of yourself! You're arguing with Cambridge supporters on the "same side" 😆? To what end other than dilineating your poor critical thinking skills?

Katie Nicoll in Vanity Fair has an absolutely gushing article about Kate today. Meghan will go berserk.

[quote] Gay George and super bitch Charlotte

(whispering) OK, everybody, slooowly back away from r391.

What the hell ails you? What do you mean by "gay" George implying there is is something wrong with being gay? Or, for that matter, being a super bitch?

Most of all you're referring to human beings who are still children. Again, what happened to you?

And Cheese-off-their-cracker Sussex-Haters also have been vitriolic about Archie.

You're both sickening.

Their is a reason long-time Dlers with their marbles intact, like me, and others, abandon the BRF threads and r391 is exhibit "A".

You Freaks are way, way too invested. Seek help.

That is sickening to speak of innocent children with such malice. I do not like H&M and I find their actions as entertaining as as the next person, but I truly wish nothing but love and happiness for their children. You are truly unhinged and disgusting.

Agreed. Harry and Meghan are shrill and annoying, but their children are innocent bystanders in all of this.

Exhibit B - KLAN GRANNY IN CHIEF DELLA

Blissfully, r391 doesn't appear on this thread for me. Ignore is a great tool.

No one wishes children ill, it is likely the Megaloon trying to get yet another thread shut down. Sunshine SUCKS is wasting their money on that one. Just makes MeAgain seems even more loathesome by association.

I always have sooo much fun winding you racist cunts up. The angrier you become, the more I like it. My finest hour was getting Klan Granny recognised by Urban Dictionary. You tried hard to get 'Megastan' in and failed completely.

r401 nobody shares your fixation.

r401, if you're r391, I notice you conveniently evade the fact that you name-called children with a pitiful weak attempt at deflecting from that with:

[quote] I always have sooo much fun winding you racist cunts up.

It's obvious you're rightfully called out and you're attempting to minimize what you did.

I'm not angry. You're not worthy of anger; you're worthy of pity.

As for calling me a "Klan Granny", not that I owe you an accounting, but I have consistently pointed out that anybody who denies that a great deal of Meghan-hatred is based on bigotry and racism isn't to be taken seriously.

A substantial number of Sussex Haters are motivated by bigotry, and they will deny that till the cows come home, but they're full of shit.

Klan Granny CEO Skippy thinks all the Harry appearances including Oprah are made by a 'lookalike actor with brown eyes'. This is the company you deviant cunts keep.

Della, so happy that I made you VERY ANGRY today. You swore up and down that you'd blocked me in 2018 but I guess that didn't work out for you. Have fun with your coterie of Klan Grannies.

People who dislike Meghan are not racists. There are a hundred other reasons to dislike her.

'People who dislike Meghan are not racists. There are a hundred other reasons to dislike her.'

Then why are you bitching about ethnic features such as her hair and body type and praising the Cambridge children for their straight 'blond' hair? Shame Bald and Replikate didn't produce a little golden haired darling with big blue eyes for you Nazis to drool over. Instead they all have sunken dark eyes and Kate's terrible eyebags.

r407 there have been a million posts explaining in detail Meghan's shadiness, grifting and narcissism.

R408 - she's a social climber just like your precious Kate. You have zero evidence of narcissism - she doesn't even have an Instagram. Meghan is independently wealthy whereas Kate hasn't had money of her own since she was a student. she sponged off William for ten years before marrying him. And before you start screaming about her father and first husband - even you must know that millions of actors have tried to use nepotism to get acting roles and got nowhere. Meghan's father and Trevor had zero clout with casting directors. She got Suits, Deal or No Deal and all her other parts by auditioning and being a decent actress.

r409 is delusional. You know Meghan wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, right?

R409 is TFW. She is also obsessed with race to the point of near Insanity. People everywhere comment on facial and hair features of celebrities of all colors. The fact that you see racism in every comment posted only glaringly highlights your pathological obsession with race. You are the sick one. You are the racist. You scream racism the way a paranoid schizophrenic would. You need serious mental health intervention.

Holy shit, are all seven posts between R404 and R410 written by the KGT?

I ask because I can't see any of those posts, and I blocked KGT a long time ago.

I have blocked it too, many times. But she has more than one account. So off I go to block all of the accounts that I can.

Never mind, I reloaded the thread and about half of the posts from 404 to 411 popped up. DL is so weird.

[quote]My finest hour was getting Klan Granny recognised by Urban Dictionary.

If that's your finest hour, what is your worst.

My finest hour was getting Klan Granny recognised by Urban Dictionary.

What a pathetic commentary on your life. Finest hour? Striking waste of a life.

Why do people even interaact with the KGT in his various interations? Block and starve him of attention. He has been here for years, used to post thousands of times about a former boyband. If not paid, batshit. But, likely paid, so your posts will do nothing to change him, we cannot control other people or their sources of income.

R418--- Excellent advice. I have done just that and it is very nice to be able to enjoy these threads again and to post with the witty, intelligent people here. You may think it doesn't bother you, but until the toxin is removed you have no idea how much It derails out threads. Wonderful relief to be rid of the vapidly racist piece of stinking shit, 😆

I truly can't figure out the motivation of Meghan's rabid fans. They seem to think if they trash William and Kate and their kids enough, then Meghan will be Queen, all while residing in Hollywood.

And why they're posting on here is bizarre as they all seem to be homophobic cunts.

And Meghan couldn't care less about them. She only wants to be around rich and powerful people who can do something for her.

R420-- I truly think TKG troll is her. She is obsessed and filled with pathological hate and jealousy towards W&K, even their children. She hates children. All children but especially the Cambridge children. It comes off as too PERSONAL for it to be just bots and paid PR. Jmo. Also, she is responsible for and directs her bot farm to parrot HER true feelings. She also can not tolerate any opinions about herself that aren't worshipful. So she can not stop herself from responding to our criticism. This is the same person who paid massive amounts of money to get websites that criticize her shut down. She sued UK papers, and is throwing money away to try and buy off China's SM commentary about her. China, ffs! In other words, yes, she is that petty and thin-skinned. She also finds herself so fascinating and she is so in love with herself that yes, I believe she reads every word posted about her, the good and the bad. And tries to literally take away freedom of speech so only glowing commentary remains. And this thin-skinned megalomaniac is going into politics? 🤣

No, R422, before the same poster was thee KGT it was the Spazz troll posting thousands of times about a former boy band. Likely paid to post here, has been around for years. Got some of those threads closed too, and is very sensitive about the characterization of Sunshine SUCKS, people can draw their own conclusions.

Does anyone have a link to any of the China stories?

Just Google MM and China media. Several different articles pop up.

The video of her bullying toddler Charlotte will finish her.

She is already a joke, no one was interested in biz with her, only Hazbean. And even that will not last long now that they are clearly vindictive, litigious and indescrete, not to mention, on the outs with the BRF, the only appeal Haz ever had was by association.

I have never liked Harry since his racism became clear years ago. Philip and William also lost their mothers at a young age but did not turn out like Harry. As his RPOs once said, it is beyond their abilities to give Hazbean a moral center. Birds of a feather with the 1st wife.

Thanks, R424, I missed that entire angle.

R426-- Very welcome. Here is another link to China.

Interesting, thanks,, R427!

Is anyone else having problems loading this thread? Is it too soon to start a part two or three, whichever we are on?

It seems like the British and French smoke a lot more than Americans.

They definitely smoke more.

Might be, R429, sometimes that pisses Muriel off and she deletes. Can you leave it open and refresh?

[Quote]I have a lot of personal affection for the Queen because she's been apart of the cultural conversation for more than 70 years.

Oh, dear. Separation edition.

Zzz zzz . Must you embarrass people?

I lived in France for 40 years. They smoke a lot - so do I.

Charlotte's birthday is tomorrow and this photo has been released. At first, I thought someone photo shopped a wig on her. LOL. Her resemblance to Lady Sarah Chatto is uncanny.

Charlotte and Lady Sarah.

The Queen and Sarah Chatto have always been close. When Sarah was growing up and her mother Margaret was a drunken bitch and totally off the rails, she often stayed with the Queen.

Charlotte looks exactly like the young Sarah @R437. It's uncanny.

Author Dame Hilary Mantel reckons the British monarchy is in its death throes and William may be the last king.

She looks remarkably like QE11 to me. She has Diana's legs and coloring. She is going to be stunning.

Charlotte looks demented at r436. Let's hope she doesn't grow up to look like Lady Sarah in r437. Those Saxe-Coburg-Gotha are sure strong. They've carried on through the different generations and centuries even.

As much as I love Hilary Mantel's novels, she shouldn't engage in nowadays' monarchy.

R442 as long as she won't end up looking demented and totally off the trolley like Meghan does, she'll be fine.

I'm a big fan of Charlotte, r444. She's going to be a fun one. I hope - and am sure they will - William and Kate can raise Charlotte and Louis not to feel lost in life, as so many of the "spares" end up being (Margaret, Andrew, Harry).

Please block the trolls and deny them the joy of derailing our threads. Really, it just kills them, lol.

There have only been two Queen Elizabeth's so far, r441.

[quote]As much as I love Hilary Mantel's novels, she shouldn't engage in nowadays' monarchy.

Agreed - and I doubt she knows much more about the future of the monarchy than the average DLer (well, maybe a bit more); yes, kings & queens don't hold the power they once did - duh! - but clearly the monarchy has and is evolving as well. I think the future depends a lot on how the UK functions (or doesn't) in a post-Brexit world.

Mantel seems to be confusing the current Queen's way of being the monarch with the only way of being a British monarch. Charles will be a different monarch, and so will William. And so what?

Oh, what does Hilary Mantel know. Pshaw.

^ Oh, she knows a fucking lot. She put A LOT of effort in writing those Tudor novels, diligently researching and checking facts.

However, she tends to compare entirely different circumstances when it comes to the power of a monarch. William could NEVER do what fucking Henry VIII was able to do.

For example, William could never get Kate's head chopped off even if he wanted to get rid of her.

R451 Most people know that William couldn't chop Kate's head off...

R452, oh really?!?

...

R451 Doesn't seem to think so.

Hilary Mantel overthinks things. She's claiming that unless the monarchy continues as it is then it cannot survive, but, at the same time, it can't continue as it is because it's not realistic. Therefore, the royal family cannot survive.

But Charles as monarch will be different from the Queen as monarch, and William will be different too. Charles will still carry a bit of the old style, a kind of Britain that died with the empire. But William is more modern and he has a clear idea of the type of monarch he wants to be. Mantel need not worry. She said of William "I think it will be their last big era." But the royal family doesn't have to be so big. I can be something that represents Britain today, not the Britain of 80 years ago

From what I read , she is confusing her opinions with actual facts and history.

If it was in William's power to chop off heads - or maybe even a hand to send a message - I think we all know who'd be on the block. Wills can't even say no to hosting a loathsome creep like Trump

R457 - you're not very bright, are you? The British royals do what they are told by the British government. Whether they like a guy like Trump or not, they do what is expected of them. As far as I know, it was the Queen who entertained the Trumps when they were in England not William. She is Head of State and she entertains pretty well every other Head of State who visits (and that includes the assholes from Russia and China).

Do try to educate yourself or don't bother posting your silly shit. It's embarrassing.

William and Catherine had to attend the state banquet, entertaining Trump's hideous spawn.

They did not attend any other events back then, I think. Please correct me in case I'm wrong on that.

R459- I pity them. I pity anyone who must be in the same building with them. A stinking whore and a megalomaniacal bore. Imagine the hellish smell from his dirty diaper.

The Queen is Head of State. The Prime Minister is head of government. In the US, the President is both. As Head of State she has to host people she likes like the Obamas and Nelson Mandela and people she hates like the Trumps and Mugabe.

[Quote]Wills can't even say no to hosting a loathsome creep like Trump

Didn't Trump made two trips to London?During the first trip it was reported that both Charles and William refuseded to accompany the Queen to greet and receive Trump during a brief meeting that involved inspecting a line of soldiers in ceremonial dress. Remember when Trump dashed ahead of the 92 year old monarch?

The second visit was an official state visit that included a state dinner senior royals (except Harry and Meghan and maybe Andrew) are obligated to attend. I suspect Meghan would have loved to attend and wear a tiara. It would have made sense to invite the couple with the married-in American, but Meghan had made critical remarks about Trump. And whether Harry can have a polite, mature and anodyne dinner conversation is debatable.

Yes, of course Wills & the rest of the BRF couldn't say no to Trump, particularly as the American president. The comment was just related to what Mantel said about the "end of the monarchy" and how the monarchies around the world now functions as a kind of goodwill ambassador for their countries, who lack much agency about what they can & can't do - unlike the kings & queens that Mantel writes about who were movers & shakers in their day.

So maybe she's right - the monarchy will fade away - or the UK decides that they want to keep the BRF around in support of tourism and their country's heritage

The first wife portrays herself as a Democrat but I do not believe she is.

*refuseded

Oh mying myself.

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^ William's

The Queen's message to Northern Ireland on its centenary:

William visiting his favorite soccer club.

Kate interviews a nurse for International Midwives Day.

Kate has an awesome head of hair

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Oh, the tabs are going to LOVE her in about 15 years.

Will and Kate launch their YouTube channel.

They have new PR I believe? This vid and the family one are quite charming. I do not believe that Harry actually independently flew helicopters, he is too dim, nor can I imagine MeGain shearing a sheep. The Cambridges can move between those worlds and seamlessly into galas. They truly are the future of the monarchy. Better to know how traitorous Haz is now.

Charlotte is Anne 2.0

One good thing that's come out of the Sussex mess is that it's really made William and Kate step up their PR game. Seeing these two couples battle it out over the coming years is going to be fun.

R477--She was the best thing that ever happened to them. ( Outside family, of course)

[quote]One good thing that's come out of the Sussex mess is that it's really made William and Kate step up their PR game.

And they appear to be getting better at it (or better at faking it) - and it helps that they have ridiculously cute kids

Williams are a very mixed bag. William the Conqueror was of course legendary and changed history, but conquering does involve slaughtering quite a few of your subjects so hard to say popular for him.

William II was possibly gay, so I kind of like him for that, but monks hated him and did what they could to ruin his reputation. Then he was killed in a hunting "accident" that may have been murder, so I'll say not universally popular.

William III was very popular at first, at least for Protestants, for chasing old James II out of the kingdom. But eventually settled down to be a dreary little dutchman so I don't think he ended as popular. But also possibly gay, so a few points for that. (hmmm, a pattern emerges.)

William IV, a mess, like his brother George. Largely useless. Weird sort of marriage with an actress (hmmm) and a bunch of illegitimate children with her. People were generally tired of the old fool and looking forward to Victoria by the time he died.

So there you go, Wills. Not the highest bar to overcome. Redeem the name.

I read something about William, but I haven't posted it because I can't for the life of me remember where. I seem to remember it was an excerpt from a biography about Will and Harry, idk. But it said that William has very effeminate mannerisms. If you did not him, you would think he was not only gay, but flamming, lol. This is why DL jokes (?) about little George being gay and having the first gay king and gay royal wedding .(oh, please let this happen, 😆) It is because George has taken on Williams mannerisms. Now, no way is William gay, imo, but it does make one wonder why a straight man would be so openly effeminate in private. I have known a very few straight men like that, but it is rare. I would love to know whose mannerisms William adopted/ emulated as a child/young man. It is interesting and I think lovely. They say William is great fun in private and his family adores him, but especially George who imitates everything his poppa does, mannerisms included. I would not have posted this if I did not believe the source, which I can't remember because I am like a hopeless drug addict about reading. My family used to tell me they were going to start a chapter of Readers Anonymous for me. If you Google Prince Harry nipples, gay- they have so many pictures of Harry pinching men's nipples, ect. Some think Harry is bi. Idk, I just get mean, spoiled, man-child from him. I can't picture and do not wish to see him as a sexual person. But I just see man child. Also, are there any pictures/ video of Harry bonding or holding Archie? I do not get the feeling he cares about him or ever thinks of him and spends time together with his son. Hope for Archie's sake I am wrong .

Sorry , didn't intend to write a book here,lol.

Link: Addicted to reading , it's real!!! 😿

Harry was portrayed as "great with kids" but there are NO indications that he bonded with the Camb kids. In fact, he and his 1st wife seem pathologically jealous. Then he knocked the little boys heads together on that walkabout - fun Harry he is not. He often seems manic and mean. Neither he nor MEMEME seem to have any bond with their own child, as is typicald of people who are narcs. Harry, joke that he is, claimed that the kid's first word was "crocodile" which some think was a coded joke, see Urban Dictionary. We saw how MeGain reacted to the kid, holding him with her wrists and reacting with anger when he babbled dada.

Court ruling

R481, you'll need to show receipts (a link to the biography that talks about Williams' mannerisms). Without any backup, your whole post sounds like horseshit.

The Harkles have to be getting frustrated having denounced social media because people said mean things about them and not having direct access anymore. However, I notice on twitter they have a vast fan club made up of mostly very recent accounts that look very much like political troll farm bots.

R481 I used to live in England (years ago) and was pleasantly surprised by the number of straight guys who did have some feminine mannerisms (e.g., how some cross their legs). I was confused at first, but then realized that American males have been brainwashed to be super masculine ever since (as some claim) Clark Gable took off his shirt in "It Happened One Night" and wasn't wearing an undershirt (the sales of which then plummeted).

I am an American living in Britain and I find that many (I could almost dare to say most) men of the upper-middle to upper classes seem very feminine. It has to do with very refined speech, extreme politeness, and clothing choices. It took me a long time to get used to it, but now I can easily tell the difference between "gay" and "just British".

R484-- Oh, dear! Receipts? Kindly go fuck yourself with a rusty instrument. I couldn't care less what you believe, and as far as "receipts" this isn't accounting firm and the DL doesn't do juvenile "receipts " so go back to Reddit or wherever you trolls and bots fester and gtf out of here. You aren't evolved enough to hang here.

R482-- Just to be really clear, effeminate mannerisms have IN NO WAY means a man is gay. William has never given the first indication or hint of being gay. I just thought it was so cute that Willam is rumored to be really effeminate with his family in private and how funny and adorable it is to me that his son hero worships him and imitates him to the point of copying all of his mannerisms. I think Lois has the same closeness with Kate. Harry wasn't allowed to be alone with their children, and even more telling , William and Kate had a real problem with Harry being drunk/drugged in front of their children. So, Harry isn't even trusted to be around the Cambridge children, and never alone. Harry may not be a dark triad like his old hag, but he is very mean, selfish, jealous. With people like H&M they do not like children and children do not like them. Children steal attention from them. That is a sin in their world.

R481 Has to be the stupidest person ever to have posted on DL.

R490-- Then scroll on by, bitch. Better yet, put me on ignore as I am going to do with you. Bless your heart.

Will practicing his green thumb.

Kate phoned many of the finalists of the Hold Still campaign.

As far as the PR battle is concerned, Medusa is bloody, battered, humiliated. She should just stop making herself look so pathetic and inadequate. This isn't a battle, it's a slaughter. If this was a boxing match, I would advise Medusa to stay down on the mat. Ffs, don't get up. Let the referee call the match and take yourself to a hospital to treat your wounds. You are no match for Kate. Not now, not ever. Not mentally, pyschicaly, emotionally, socially. Take your beating and stop humiliating yourself, and ffs, disappear for awhile. People are only interested in you to laugh at you.

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There are plenty of threads about Harry and Meghan. Please post on them and leave this one for Will and his family. Thank you.

R496-- You only see HER face. Not Harry's, not even her own child. Stomach churning. She is a joke now. People hate her and she is an object of derision. This cruel bitch needs to go away. I loathe her and even I am getting uncomfortable with watching her humiliate herself. She is almost at Trump level public hatred. She needs to stop before crowds of people start throwing stuff at her.

This is great , and not William exactly, but the reason he will be very popular..Kate

I remember this campaign - so it's a book now? that explains the timing of Meghan's.

R481, if you don't want people to make nasty comments, don't sound like a fucking fourteen-year-old girl in your posts.

R501-- Someone is grumpy. Book didn't get get quite the reaction you were hoping for, huh?

Ha! I'm not Meghan. I do have a certain expectation for the discourse level at this site, though. I'm often disappointed, but I live in hope.

May I be his Groom of the Stool?

Today is Archie Harrison's 2nd birthday. He was born on the same day King Edward VII died. For royal history buffs, here are some tidbits about the king's health.

R496 "I am the EARTH MOTHER and you are all FLOPS!"

You forgot "GIVE MEMEMEMEME MONEY!!!"

It's a line from Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. No DLers got it?

R501- Just scroll on by my posts or better yet, put me on ignore, you tedious cunt.

Now R509 sounds like a sixteen-year-old girl on her period.

Is this some setting up a rival court thing? Not just the titles but the location of the photo. Many of their supporters claim to want to bring down the monarchy, yet their idols embrace the trappings. Hard to know what to make of the messaging in this.

Not sure I see Parliment removing him from the line of succession but it would seem prudent to do so.

The Sussexes have been trying to set up a rival royal court since they asked for their own offices and courtiers soon after the marriage. They were firmly told no and had to share offices with the rest of the minor royals. This was one of many factors leading to the big flounce last year.

No matter how much PR they pay for, William will be King after Charles, and Kate will be Queen. No amount of PR and public tantrums will change that.

[QUOTE] It's a line from Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. No DLers got it?

There are no DLers on these Meghan threads. All the posters are elderly women who were banned from sites like Celebitchy and Digital Spy for violating hate speech rules. DL is the only place where these Nazis can call Meghan a cunt and make Aryan comments about Kate vs Meghan and get away with it.

[QUOTE] No matter how much PR they pay for, William will be King after Charles, and Kate will be Queen. No amount of PR and public tantrums will change that.

What an unworldly person you are. You genuinely think that Meghan is paying the press to mention her, don't you? Hard to comprehend a malfunctioning brain like yours.

R510-- And you sound like someone who erroneously thinks he is clever. Maybe try signing up for some online classes to improve your inadequate self.

There was a time after Diana died that I thought geez, those boys had the best psychotherapy that money could buy (as they should). And I think they did. This interview is very sweet. Just goes to show you can't help everyone.

"He needs a lot of help"...talking about Harry here, in jest...but was it? And also when William said after Megxit "I have held my brother up for my whole life, and now he has to stand on his own." I wish the best for these boys. Patch it up guys!!

This interview is even earlier than the one with Charles @ r516. Such young men, but each vocalizing a different path. And supporting each other here.

The video in R517 is quite interesting. Charles is very likeable in it, and I enjoy seeing videos of him talking about Prince's Trust and The Duchy - he really seems to enjoy how his work brings others up and really invests in people and the environment. William in the video seems very much the same as he does now. Confident, likes to joke around, easy to smile. Harry seems very distant in the video, uncomfortable, doesn't say much, but did have a telling comment when Charles talked about a polo accident and how if he'd died, the boys would have wanted to make off with his polo ponies and Harry said "And all the rest". o_o

You're so cute, R515. Kisses!

If my posts made you stop using run-on sentences, emojis, and multiple exclamation points, my life will not have been in vain.

It's becoming clearer that Harry has always been troubled. I don't blame William for not wanting to hold his brother up anymore, particularly when the brother is so greedy and hostile. Of course, Harry will come home expecting just that after the divorce.

R20-"my life will not have been in vain." Oh, sweetie! But of course it has. Also, punctuation does matter, dear. Blocked because it thinks it's words matter.

Now here's something we can all get into ....BOOK FAIRIES!!!

Kate visited Royal London Hospital.

I felt bad for William watching him watch his mother. You can tell he was trying NOT to get emotional.

This is a very sweet idea. The Cambs PR is really hitting it out of the park this year.

Very clever and engaging

Wonder what the other author in the family might do to copy the idea, R523? Hiding books in chicken coops?

R528-- Next she will pay for a glowing article on what a talented and amazing photographer SHE is, 😆. The reason no one has known this until right now is because- wait for it, Kate hate & shade- SHE is a very humble ( I'm dying here 😂, and did not want to appear to be bragging about how amazingly gifted she is. 🤣 I think that is another reason for the black and white photos, wtf poses, pics of Archie's thumbs and toes. Just wait for it. I am. 🤭

@R529-- ETA: She was trying to be edgy and artistic with her photos.

STOP LOOKING AT THAT FUCKING CAMBRIDGE CUNT! ( Medusa, screaming as she pulls the rest of Harry's hair out.)

[quote]Also, punctuation does matter, dear. Blocked because it thinks it's words matter.

Indeed it does, R522. *snicker*

The new Cambridge PR guru is worth every penny. What a charming idea, hiding the book around London.

[quote]It's becoming clearer that Harry has always been troubled.

I was thinking that too; aside from these highly entertaining threads, I've never really given what H&W were actually like much thought (just figured that it was a given that they were posh toffs). It's kind of clear now that the whole "Naughty Prince Harry" line was a story pushed by the BRF to cover up for troubled, immature & not too intelligent guy

I remember reading not long after Diana's death that she had used William as her confidante - a role he was much too young to play. Harry was much younger and got treated like a kid but she expected William to be her friend. I figure he suffered a lot more than Harry did as she tried to tear him away from his father and it was with William that she indulged her histrionics and wanted to get revenge through him on Charles.

Harry is just plain dumb. He got sent to Eton where the fact he was so dumb would make him stand out even more. He was ripe for some pushy, smarter woman to take over his life and that's just what happened.

R533- Yes, agree. When you watched video/interviews of him, something felt disconcerting about what we were seeing and picking up on as opposed to the image/ person we were taught to understand him as. It didn't connect. The pictures of him knocking childrens heads together was sold to us as playful harmless Harry being his cheeky self, showing his ability to interact with children. The fun and loving Uncle who adores his niece and nephews and how close they are. And yet, if you really noticed you would realize that you rarely saw Harry with them and then very briefly and never alone. The children did not really seem to know him well at all. The many pictures of Harry being shockingly inappropriate with people. Pinching their nipples, grabbing a male friends crotch just before a picture was snapped. The interview of Harry the soldier crushed his image . It was clear that Harry didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground militarily. He looked at the instrument panel as if it was unfamiliar to him. Because it was. But then he stunned. He compared killing human beings gaming and remarked on how exciting and enjoyable it was. Innocent civilians. Collateral damage. It was what a psychopathic serial killer would feel about his victims. Nothing. Harry has no conscience. People are just things to him. He has no compassion, empathy. He has always abused animals. He is incapable of guilt. Harry is a fucking monster , just like his wife.

I thouht the Narkles were supposedly winning with the kids? Many of them seem to see right through them the way we do. Kids do not like hypocrisy.

R533, the older he gets the more ludicrous that "image" becomes. Skippy, his wingman, grew up, Harry did not. He is a middle aged petulant man child.

The strategy of attempting to appeal to kids seems based in the fact that they could most relate to and be least judgmental of Haz and his 1st wife going through life like teens with oppositional defiant disorder.

Harry once had family ties and a lot of public goodwill and a pretty comfortable set up. That he seems to have placed no value on any of that or to have insight into how privileged he has been, or even enough of a sense of social norms to HIDE that he is as he is is striking. He is rumored to be unstable and we have seen him abuse polo ponies and how he treats his family. His RPOs once famously claimed it was not for them to instill a moral compass.

Some people are like that. These 2 are birds of a feather.

Thank God William was born first and that he chose his wife carefully.

Catherine places a book in front of a statue, anyone who who it is of? TIA.

I have read about and studied psychopaths since 12 years of age, when I nabbed my mother's paperback book, Helter Skelter, about the Manson family and all of their crimes. They committed many, many more murders than the Sharon Tate/LoBianca slaughter. After thay book I was obsessed with figuring out what made them become so evil, so lacking of empathy and remorse. Years later I was no longer interested. Some people not only lack a drop of human compassion for others, they sadistically enjoy harming others. It gives them joy. Not all psychopaths murder, but they COULD with no remorse. Narcissistic people , we know how they are. The difference with malignant narcissism is they are also very sadistic. Trump is one. Harry and Meghan are as well . That is why she is capable of gluing a classmates eyelids with super glue while you and I would never have the heart to do something so heartless . Most people such as this do not have millions of dollars and a global platform. Titles from one of the most powerful families in the world. Imagine if Manson or Bundy had such power, riches, connections and protection. The royal family have enabled and helped create this if for no other reason than lying to us about what harry is . They lied to the world so now most people have no idea what a danger harry can be. The totally to blame for any victims of these two because people trusted the lies put out by the family of harmless harry the hero. People are not aware how untrustworthy they are. I totally blame trf.

I think the PR image was created to protect him but also to keep him in the fold so there would be some degree of control over him. Ultimately, as adults Haz and his wife are responsible for their own actions and character, or lack thereof.

They are dangerous. God help their children. That letter from her half brother comes to mind.

R540 not to defend Meg but both her half-brother and her half-sister are estranged from all their children. It's a family tradition.

Agree, R5541. And the part about not leaving her alone with children or animals seemed dramatic, but then the stories re: Charlotte, her disconnect from her own kid and the dog's broken legs made me think perhaps there were other incidents. Harry is also odd with kids and has been abusive to animals. Best to give all scorched earth types a wide berth.

Yes, she obviously has a very disfuctional family, especially her mother. Her mother being in a cult, still, and basically never being in MM' s life for any length of time tells me SHE is the toxic, negligent, absent parent in that family. She gives the impression of being a very selfish narc herself. And possibly cruel and amoral. Just the impression I have had of her from day one. Dark, creepy, sneaky, shady, completely selfish and only caring about her wants and needs . Using people , men as well, to get whatever she wants from them then dumping them when they have nothing left to take . Sound familiar? The fact that that fucking greedy hog orca whale us in the same cult is kind of scary , tbh. All of them in this ruthless circle connect, enable each other. SS, Gayle " let me lick your rancid ass again Orca cause Imma tape worm in need of a host and I have no or morals" Scientology? Are they cult/elite/eat the poor as well? The rich and elite feel nothing except contempt for us dirty , unwashed masses wasting their water, food, ect. With the over population and global warming, guess what who feels they have the only right to survive at others expense? They do follow laws and rules at all and no longer hide the fact that they can kill, rape, ect and never see the inside of a jail. MM's recent court victory, tnf judge given a prominent promotion/postion. Conscience? Mary! me all you like, but you can not deny these things happened because they did. You have your opinion as to why, but happen they did and are still So, how moral and compassionate is William, really? For the have nots,I mean. Prince Charles? Are they only concerned about their wealth and comfort, or do they have a conscience? We shall see. Charlotte may kick all of their asses and rule, lol. ( Only half kidding)

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R543 - Lady Colin Campbell reviewed Meghan's half sister Samantha's book and she said something about Doria disappearing for days on end and Sam once finding compromising photos of her. There's a lot more of Doria than we know. She's a mystery.

Doria isn't a mysterious, she just like to think we can't see her amoral ass. Doria is an organized narcissist, probably malignant. Ever hear of organized and disorganized serial killers? It is basically stable vs unstable psychopaths. Every psychopath doesn't kill, but every serial killer is a psychopath. Most CEO's , very ruthless, successful business people are psychopaths. They get where they are because they have no problem destroying anyone in their way. Models, ect. Meghan is a psychopath as well, but very unstable. That is why she couldn't play a long game if abducted her and took her toba deserted island with no pc or phone. The bitch would tie animal corpses together to float bact towards whoever her unlucky as hell target was

Edit@R546- Mogels, not models. Although some would disagree, 😆

Doria is also running a home health company targeted to wealthy individuals. She does not have the required license to do so, who knows who is involved or what the story is there. Doria has also become wealthy since the change in status of the 1st wife, lots of shady stuff.

Sounds like this may be affiliated with the cult, weird language.

Thank goodness William was born first!

If Samantha had any dirt on Doria, she would've sold it YEARS ago. No one with Markle DNA has any patience

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Cash only elderly care targeting the wealthy, sounds COMPLETELY on the up and up except for not holding the required licensing of course. Eek.

JohnSmith4, London, United Kingdom, 7 months ago

It's not a real business - its 'business address' is the talent management lawyer's, right down to the same firm. It seems to have been set up this year, its website reads like Rachel's writing, no establishment date but a copyright of this year, and frankly no successful business would have its CFO, CEO, and Company Secretary the same person - it's too dangerous. You usually would have the company lawyer be the Secretary anyway - it's cheap enough and means the position, which is legally-focussed, has a lawyer in it.

Holistic and "spiritual" health monitoring jumped out at me. Sounds culty. And she is the CEO, CFO and Secretary, no one else has name on it. Seems like a shell company. It claims legal services are offered but no lawyers are named.

It is noteable that they are cash only and also provide

Coordinate legal services for elder law Conservatorship Living trust Durable Power of Attorney

Thank goodness Willaim does not have this baggage.

These services would have to be provided by someone wth proper licensing. A social worker/yoga teacher is not a trained medical professional experienced in complex elder care.

Medication management Responding to medical emergencies (on call 24/7) Relaxation activities for client and caregivers Creative and expressive arts Review of Advance Health Care Directive and POLST (Physician Orders for Life-Sustaining Treatment)

Doria has patience and knows how to play a long game, imo. She is a weed smoker, quite. She observes but gives nothing of importance away. She is cunningly underhanded . She is the type, just from everything I. Have seen and read which is an uniformed opinion, that reminds me of serial poisoners. These mostly female family killers. They play the role of the devoted, loving wife/mother and nurse their sick loved one as they die a slow , agonizing death. They then collect the insurance money. That is cold blooded and very sadistic. Audrey Marie Hilley

The demise of her father and the handling of his house/estate was said to be sketchy. This org sounds suss as hell.

Doria isn't really an issue, though. Whatever shady things she may or may not be involved with, she's not dragging her business all over the world stage. Meghan's constant need for attention, money, and validation is exhausting to watch from afar. Only someone as dim and blinkered as Harry could live with her up close.

It can't be said enough: Those poor fucking kids.

Still a bit baffled why Saint Oprah is supporting, enabling and amplifying this bad behaviour of a pair of malicious and malignant narcissists ?

She is making money and getting attention, esp from younger people, R558. Basically, for a narc, fuel and supply.

r559 Surely to God Oprah has enough money???! I actually think long term she is risking losing money.Therese two will likely tarnish her brand.

Oprah doesn't need money, she needs fame. She's become a has-been since her show ended, and she was once one of the most influential women in American media. She wants that position back, though it's probably too late for that. People under 40 barely watch TV anyway.

r561 To be precise she doesnt NEED fame she craves it because she has an unhealthy relationship with it.These kind of unhealthy relationships people have with ego, fame, drugs, cravings ,other addictions are the kind of thing Oprah preaches self help self realization about in order for people to overcome and move beyond.Yet she is unable to do it herself.

You know Oprah has addiction issues with food. A woman with that much money should be able to keep her weight to a manageable level: She can afford the best trainers, nutritionists, and personal chefs in the world.

I hadn't seen or heard of Oprah in years till she came up with the Harry and Meghan thing.

R564-- All I know is OW is with SS, and is in/associated with the same cult that Doria is in and lived with for years. It always seems to lead back to Soho House, SS , now that cult.

R563 and yet, spokesperson for Weight Watchers, or whatever they changed the name to so it's no longer primarily about weight. Too funny.

The Cambridges and their new dog were spotted at Kensington Palace hitching a helicopter ride. I suspect they were going to their country home Anmer Hall in Norfolk on the Sandringham estate. Just my guess.

Wow so the entire family (plus the dog) flies together? I thought that wasn't allowed, that they had to split up on flights in case of unforeseen accident. Maybe because this is a short-haul flight it doesn't matter.

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I believe that once George turns 12, he has to travel separately from his dad.

r567 I really wish they wouldnt do that especially with Harry and Andrew both being toxic with the public and unsuitable monarchs.

The deaths of the Cambridges really would be the end of the monarchy as we know it. The UK public would rather become a Republic after Charles' death than deal with the Sussexes as King and Queen.

[quote]Wow so the entire family (plus the dog) flies together? I thought that wasn't allowed, that they had to split up on flights in case of unforeseen accident. Maybe because this is a short-haul flight it doesn't matter.

Yeah, tell Kobe about the low risk of short haul flights!

r573 Indeed

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Lady M, Commonwealth, 13 minutes ago

Rooster, William lost his mother too. Yet, Hazbeen has exploited her memory for cash, threw his family under the bus for cash, lied to the world for cash, insulted the future Queen with petty gossip, insulted two future Kings by saying they were trapped whereas he was free and has decided he would be a rebel in all this. I am not sorry for him.

It was said that he was introducing himself to people backstage at the Vax Concert as "Diana's son" - WTAF? Dude is middle aged and a father of 2 and all he can do is exploit the memory of his long dead mother? Seems twisted and creepy. Wish the Narkles would just go away.

Helicopters are a higher risk than planes. William needs to grow a pair and travel separately from Kate and the kids.

I have it on good authority from a friend at Penguin that Harry is working on his autobiography with plenty of help from editors of course. It's provisionally titled Second Son and will be published in early December. For the first time he'll talk about the impact of Diana's death in depth and how it's affected him over the decades. There are chapters on Chelsy, on Cressida, on his military training and time in Afghanistan, on marriage to Meghan and their life in California with Archie, and on the rift with the royals. Lots of unseen photographs including ones with Archie.

R579 - they must really need the money. He's pathetic.

What is left to sell after that, R580? Reality tv show incoming.

It is just astonishing the comfort and security they gave up for this.

The monetizing of his mother's memory is gross.

r580 Which goes to show those Spotify and Netflix figures were all exaggerated distorted bullshit.

Esp because of the minimal content produced, 1 podcast and an IG rehash. The reality tv show will be forthcoming. Maybe some lifestyle books that no one will read. The woman who used to do the content for The Tig is a lawyer now, working for a firm that represents Harry's wife, so she would have to find someone else. The producer they hired for Archewell has rights to that lurid Diana film, that is the final card to pay, would be my guess.

r584 Sounds like they are close to being a spent force who will have fired all their main bullets and played all of their strongest cards within a year or so and then.....

The biography will no doubt sell well, and I'm sure he'll be able to sell the film rights for a bundle. The reality show will also be a moneymaker. If Harry has a decent financial advisor who can invest the proceeds well, he could end up quite rich from all of this.

Of course, he could have been quite well off in the UK as well, and he wouldn't have had to sell out his privacy and his family. But it's become clear that he's desperate for attention and hates his family, so for him that's a small price to pay.

He should keep in mind, though, that all the money he's making now will be split 50/50 if Meghan leaves him, and since that's likely to happen in the next 5 years, he won't be as rich as he thinks.

Both brothers must want the Diana statue unveiling well over with. After that, they won't have to see each other until Charles or the Queen dies.

R586 Harry and Meghan both seem allergic to longterm planning. If they come into a major windfall, I expect it to be quickly spent.

they want to live like billionaires but they don't have the income. They'll never have the income: delusions of grandeur. They'll surround themselves with pricey publicists, consultants, lawyers, etc. to make up for the fact they're both dumb. But they think they're smart so they'll ignore the advice they get. A fool and his money are soon parted.

R586, selling out his family may even be an added payoff for him, R586. Given the past few months, it is certainly possible.

I imagine she will be looking to bounce, her options are not going to get better with age. Maybe a Russian or Saudi would have her. She could become a Muslim.

Re: DM article @ r575. It doesn't bother me if William and Harry give separate speeches and do not present a unites front. It would be grossly ingenuous to do so. I prefer them apart actually for the time being. They are very different people.and always have been.

I do wonder how a king's ransome in PR is being paid for, R589.

The UK tabloids have been brutal the past few days. I agree with the poster who said their time is about up . People in the UK not only do not care if Harry comes for the unveiling, they do not want him to. Had they not done that interview and had they shown just a drop of respect for Prince Philip, things would be different. He will eventually be taken back by his family, but he has destroyed any public support or respect forever. She will never be allowed back in trf, ever. To have had so much and throw it away all over vanity, jealousy, and vengeance is mind boggling. She should be in a lockdown mental unit. How could Harry have another child with her? He can't be so programed as to be unaware of what an unfit parent she is.

'It is just astonishing the comfort and security they gave up for this.'

You are looking at it from your perspective as an arch royalist. To you, life as a senior royal in the ultimate dream, but is it really? An apartment in ugly Kensington Palace, right next door to William? Or stuck out in Frogmore under the Heathrow flight path? Always, always being aware of your rank as the inferior 'sixth in line' and your children being made aware that they are inferior to your brother's kids? What's comfortable about that?

London is a place tourists like to tick off but I've rarely heard anybody say they'd like to retire there. Montecito is beautiful, set between the mountains and the ocean in a warm climate with barely any rain. The phrase California Dreaming exists for a reason. Nobody is dreaming about London.

'I do wonder how a king's ransome in PR is being paid for.'

Do learn to spell! And how many times are you going to make this same comment, Sunshine Sachs troll? You must have written it a thousand times over dozens of threads. They will pay their PR firm whatever monthly fee has been agreed but beyond that, nothing. These fantasies you have of Meghan paying all the tabloids and magazines to write articles about her are ludicrous. She is one of the most famous women on the planet and they'll write about her whatever.

They'll most likely end up having to split up that California dream, R594.

Had they behaved differently they might not have been out amongst the frogs.

Merching, setting up photos of the kid to release on his cousin's bday and monetizing the memory of his dead mother vs. having a provided high standard of living for llife with little work requred? Most would opt for the 2nd. But, those that are paid to normalize the unstable Harkles will continue to do so.

People are fleeing California, the population is actually decreasing. The dream is dead. The Harkles are living beyond their means. They were so crass at the Disney premier that even Iger was taken aback. Any interest in them is to poke fun, it is like watching a slow motion car crash. Most pity the children.

The Queen is still active at 95.

R598-- She only lives just to spite me!

She is sharp as a tack; that twat didn't need to remind her it was 80 YEARS AGO! She should have him killed for that!