Ben Barnes, Part XIV

OP, you've gone about as far as you can take this. It's time to say goodbye.

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Before this thread gets paywalled, I’ll share: a friend of a friend said they waited on BB and his family at a restaurant at Christmastime in 2019. It was apparently him, his parents, brother, and a woman who seemed to be dating the brother. Said they were mostly pleasant, Barnes was “maybe a little condescending” making sure they got everyone’s drink orders correctly, but not enough to be all that notable. At the end of the meal, he paid for everyone... but didn’t leave a tip. That’s all the info I got!

^and I should clarify the restaurant was in London.

Going back to a post on the last thread about him liking BBG’s fanart, he’s also viewed BBA & WLBB stories in the past couple of days. This is him stoking up for the S&B launch for sure. He knows he’s gonna have to get interactive again soon (no choice) so may as well start off with the old & loyal ones, seeing as how he’s more or less ghosted them for a couple of months.

Also found it hilarious that the Wanda IG account posted a whole mosaic of the ice cream dumpster fire pic and tagged the Ho and her two companies.

The Sleuth found it and noted that she untagged herself pretty quick but didn’t block them. Then the wine co blocked her. But still not the Ho. That’s illogical behaviour right there.

And to another of the later posters on the last thread, I’m bored of the Ho too! She makes me nauseous and I’m praying for the day that we can move on and leave her behind in the dust.

R3 No tip??!! With all that money he’s got.... what a tightwad!!!!

R3 Yeah, I’m not sure if he was unhappy with the service or what, but it was odd to me since Barnes has always struck me as a people-pleaser. Though that friend of my friend said he’s definitely not the worst among the celebrities they’ve served, so take that as you will.

A quick note for the sleuth. . . The other woman whose posts Ben always liked that you referenced is also *believed* to be an ex of his (though we can't be sure, it was a long time ago). There were old pictures of them sitting together with arms around each other that OF COURSE have mysteriously disappeared from IG now. (WHY DO ALL HIS EXES REMOVE THE EVIDENCE LATELY WHEN IT HAD BEEN UP FOR YEARS) But he stays friends with his exes and continues to like their posts all the time, hence your observation.

Funny thing is, he usually stops/dramatically reduces liking exes' posts when he's currently dating someone (at least from his private account, it was always a dead giveaway). When his "current" relationship ends, he goes back to liking exes' posts. And unfortunately with this woman, her last post was the same time Ben and The HoughMonster probably "officially" started things up. So we can't use her liked/unliked posts as a potential clue to the current status of The Dumpster Fire. *grumble*

The head-bobbing video?

Hmmm what to make of this. . . As noted in the previous thread, Ben was spending an inordinate amount of time continually liking things on socials after his late rise today. And then he stopped. Because he ran out of things to like?

The Ho had all her panels and interviews and found time to post continually throughout the day. And then she stopped. Because she ran out of content?

I know what you're thinking, did they stop at the same time? Yes. Yes they did, to within the hour. Coincidence? Or did Ben like her post today to beg? Was he so lonely and bored and desperate all day cause she was busy and away from him all day? But then she came home from work, and the faithful housewife sprung into action, and devoted all his time to her for the rest of the day and night. He paid enough contractually obligated lip service to fans earlier.

He needs to take care of his hardworking mommy after all. Grifting is exhausting.

R6 It's always been my understanding that tipping isn't expected in the UK or Europe as they pay servers a living wage.

R10 I think you give JH too much power. You are taking away Ben's agency, as they say these days.

10:00 AM Arise

10:05AM Snipe at RK for not tidying up

10:30AM Head out for run/tennis

11:30AM Return home, shower, drink a protein shake. No time to make pancakes with a long day of social media drudgery ahead, alas!

12:00PM Begin SM “work.” Bloody Cindy won’t stop pestering about her art; throw her a bone and shut her up. Scroll through #daddy tags, are any of these girls hot? Etc etc.

Later that afternoon….

Meet JH for mutually agreed-upon booty call. Hope she doesn’t ask to sample any “wine” afterward…perhaps I’ll tell her I’m doing a cleanse.

R11 That's what I believed too re: tipping. It's a solely american thing because minimum wage here (for tipped, think restaurant, workers) is $2.75/hr. They're not making the still abysmal $7.25/hr (or whatever their state requires), so they literally need tips to make any money from their day. I always *thought* they had a more proper min wage over there, so tips weren't literally required. Perhaps that's changed recently? Did UK/Europe grow their own Other NRA (National Restaurant Association)? Cause american hegemony really needs to STOP.

And I think my favorite part of your hilarious description is he was actually awake and waited to like her post. He's filmed himself running, definitely takes his phone with him! Notifications, schmotifications. (of course now I'm imagining Ben I don't do confrontations Barnes ever having agency. I take it back, THAT'S the most hilarious part of your description!!!)

*Answer for the sleuth* This lady was waaaayyy before Peyton. It was a long time ago.

So one turns of Jake Paul that scum bag millionaire youtuber has been accused of raping a girl and then making her sign an NDA. He is what some might consider B level celebrity. So maybe that tip from the last thread is about this garbage human. There are so many in Hollywood now, hard to keep track. Maybe he is making girls sign NDAs for flirting because he is disgusting and also apparently hangs out with 14 year olds. Why are all influencers criminals and garbage humans? What is that about?

Two I’m so tired of talking about JH. She clearly has a mental illness, no tea no shade. I do feel like it is untreated and she needs help. I really hope Ben saw the light and bounced from that mess, but also we know how easily manipulated he is. I do feel like he likes her shit because he knows we are watching and talking about it. Anything to gain traction and boost his followers and make S&B popular. Like really let’s see at the end of April if anyone cares about this show or him as he is still unemployed. They will probably announce the second season soon and then like ok who cares.

Three I know I just said I hate talking about her, but I do find this interesting how Nina and her seem to be so distance as of late. I’ll entertain the cracks in the fake facade she wears. I really think something went down. If it did than that would make this bond between BB and JH even stronger, us against the world. Napa was suppose to happen around this time and nothing. JH takes credit as the founder and has been pushing Kinrgy way more than her wine. Also sus in the week of love how little JH played that up. Just a couple stories, but didn’t really do her usual ten million stories dance in my underwear then talk about the same thing again in my car, then again in glam, then again while I’m eating a salad, then again the next morning after I just woke up. Sus for sure.

R12 Just so we're on the same page, are we talking about this chick? Or someone else?

I find he has some very strange fans though. They obsess over him

R14 I remember her, she is an actress yes? I thought they were just friends. He has pics like this with what’s her face from punisher and what’s her face was engaged or married. What about that girl with the dog who he went on the walk with that the paps caught? The one with the weird sensual hug on BB part? He can be so creepy sometimes.

I remember discussing the party and saying he was way too old to be at a party with red solo cups.

R14 No, not her. If I remember that pic correctly, Ben was friends with the guy (Huw was it??) and just met those two girls that day as they are the guy's costars from some viking show.

R16 You mean girl with dog who caused Ben to have a SUPER straight recoiling blushing reaction to whatever she said? That brief meet up?

R17 Wait, what party? Who?

R15 yeah we are not super fans over here. To blindly follow, not see the truth, not the vibes over here.

R17 BB has been old in Hollywood for such a long time. Red cups he should be running from that. He is a grown ass man. I saw a meme that was like you should move to Hollywood if you are cool with guys in their 40’s doing cocaine with 20 year olds. The closer BB gets to 40 this is all I can picture. Him, all wrinkly and shit, doing blow with the kids, trying to be cool. Talking about that Narnia movie and trying to hype himself up over shit no one cares about.

R18 Oh yeah, THIS girl and dog!

Which produced THIS picture that was trotted out on DL at the time as exhibit #307 of Proof That BB Is Gay.

I feel like there was missed meme potential with this image.

Hahahaha Syl totally! Yeah it’s the hug for me, why are his legs so far apart? Then she was never seen again, what happened BB? She looks basic just like the rest. Even the model, like she cannot sing and she is not beautiful. I don’t get it. Same with JH. Maybe this one with the dog is his therapist. I see on the rhobh how they all go on walks with their therapists. That seems like a very LA thing to do.

Will say he was good at ignoring the paps on this one. He did that right.

R22 You mean like with the couple apparently kissing in the background, and the girl turning back around longingly thinking, "Damn. I missed my chance." No girl, you didn't. You really didn't.

(btw, why the hell are his legs spread that far apart just to give her a hug?? Is that something men do that I've been missing All My Life?)

JH last post about wine was 2 weeks ago, Nina is on FVW stories in merch from the company. Where is JH in her beanie? JH gets her lips done and the fake hair for the wine, Nina makes fun of it, BB unfollows Nina and her beau, and then JH barely mentions their company. Nine post a throwback family post, JH does the same in her stories. Her behavior once again makes no sense. How does BB keep up.

Nina not nine*

Kinrgy has such a small follower count on insta. A year out you think it would be more. Also that pic from a day ago on Kinrgy, did they forget to edit JHs wrinkles? She is lookin not cute.

R7 R11 Tips in UK restaurants are either added to the bill before you get it, or left to your discretion. The servers *do* expect a tip, between 10-15% (12.5% or 15% for larger groups). So if the tip was already included, Ben would’ve had to deduct it from the total. More likely it wasn’t added, and he just didn’t leave one - the meanie!!!

R20 R22 I’m sure this was discussed in a previous thread, and someone ID’d her as an actress from Ben’s ‘circle’. Also that she was either married/engaged/attached at the time. I’ll see if I can dig it out.

R30 Following on from my post above, I’d like to announce that my brain has not entirely fried during quarantine. From Thread X.

Quote: “That looks a full body press hug, not entirely platonic. But she looks back at him and he doesn’t look back at her. She does have an adorable dog. Keep your heart pinned on the dog, hon”

Quote: “ Apparently BB’s friend might be the actress Lily Robinson.”

Quote: “Following up on my own post: I decided to IG stalk Lily. She accepted my follow request and I got the impression that she doesn't know Ben very well, or maybe just met him. She follows his Public account but not the private one, he doesn't follow her at all. She also appears to have a boyfriend who is an author. So, yet another of Ben's British Hag Squad. Move along.”

BTW I still find it hilarious that Thread X lasted from Mar 2019 until Jan 2021. Then XI - XIV just from end Jan till now!!!

R31 I have to say I’m very impressed with the sleuthing capabilities on these threads. You guys should work for the FBI or something, love it. 🙌🏻

R24 Ha, check out the final photo from that gallery - linked below. He was fully aware of the camera. And that’s a smug little smirk right there.... “This’ll get in the gossip mags, surely”

R25 Two theories about that strange wide-leg stance:

1. Totally aware of paps, over-exaggerated on purpose. I think the girl’s looking back at him in astonishment rather than longing. As in ‘I barely know that guy, wtf was that all about?” She’s also talking to someone else once she’s walked away from him.

2. Her hand with the dog leash is trapped in between them. Is he adopting a Trumpesque ‘leaning forwards with shoulders’ stance?

So, no frottage going on by the looks of it!!!

Quite enjoying talking about this again as so had enough of the Ho.

R32 I did, but got made redundant (joking!!!!!!)

Why thank you, I’m just up late (in UK) and bored. And glad to talk about a mystery which is no longer a mystery. Unlike the current situation. *Sighs*

R34 cheers from the colonies, condolences on loosing one of the og colonizers.

As for DL we appreciate your work, wish the current situation was more upfront and transparent as well. I mean it’s been so fucking long, even Angelina and Brad came out sooner than this and he full on cheated, they have actual appeal and status. Unlike the c list liars we keep talking about. I don’t see any appeal in Ben anymore. It’s just all so pathetic.

[quote] I think the girl’s looking back at him in astonishment rather than longing. As in ‘I barely know that guy, wtf was that all about?”

This. She looks like a less annoyed version of the girl in the "distracted boyfriend" meme to me. Thinking, "The fuck? I thought he was gay!!" LOL

R36 Yes, Syl - that’s exactly what she looks like :D lmao

[quote]BTW I still find it hilarious that Thread X lasted from Mar 2019 until Jan 2021. Then XI - XIV just from end Jan till now!!!

R31 It took nearly two years to get through 600 comments. And suddenly, it took less than three months to get through 1,800?!?

And just think. . . we ENTIRELY have Ms. Julianne Hough to thank for it. Just realize how much of Ben's SUPER PRECIOUS private life has finally come out for us to discuss. Think of all the trolling the bunkered chickenshit has finally endured because of it. Think of the reduction in public support from EVERYONE except overstimulated hormonal teenagers.

All because he inexplicably decided to hook up with that grifting garbage human. Congratulations Ben. She clearly was the best decision you've ever made in your life. Cheers.

Question. Can you feel pain without suffering? Or is the point of going through pain at all to learn *From*. The. Suffering. If you don't suffer, how do you learn the hard lessons? What would ever cause the new wisdom to form unless suffering brought it forth? How are they not inextricably linked through causality? How would we even define pain without including (in *any* way) suffering? And perhaps MOST important.. if you immediately choose NOT to suffer, why would ANYONE ***EVER*** believe you've learned ANYTHING.

Or is this NOTHING more than her usual self-help guru bullshit about taking back your power and protecting your divine energy In Order To NEVER have to suffer in life? Suffering is for the disposable lesser people, not for an enlightened higher being like herself.

Ben repeatedly claims he's a fan of words and loves always specifically choosing the *exact* correct one. Maybe that's why it took him 35 whole minutes to like her post this time. But let's digest the possible hidden messages anyway. I mean even though she knows it sounds bad, she wishes pain for everyone who reads it, and peace for herself. Who counts as everyone?

(btw, what the hell does that video she chose have to do with any of this? Or is she, as per usual, just finding any excuse to show off HOW SUPER SEXY she is!!! Ogle her everyone!! Absolutely pathetic attention whore.)

R38 Yes, sadly that’s the case. All down to her. While we all wanted more tea, I’d really have preferred it to be of the “who’s that he’s with in the pic” variety and we could then have all gone off and carried on sleuthing. Along with maybe some bona fide gossip about him. Some nude shots or dick pics surfacing. “Spotted at” etc etc etc.

Not this car crash of a scenario. Oh well, it is what it is.

R26 Definitely strange behaviour on her part. Going back to the ND/SW unfollow, I find it funny that we were banging on about how pathetic he was for following the 2 of them and then - bang, they’re gone! Still think either he or friend/s are lurking on here!

Napa doesn’t seem to be happening, or not at the moment anyway. If it does, we’ll be on your trail, Benji.

R39 What a steaming pile of BS. And of course the video’s chosen to let everyone see how good (fake) she looks. And oh, she’s @‘d Andy Grammer. Apparently he’s a singer (sorry, Andy, never heard of you.) Now, do we believe that the Ho found that song/lyrics? Or does that sound more like someone who googled the meaning of the song ‘Jealous’? Hmmm.

R39 why does BB like this shit? Why is he encouraging this? This isn’t helping anyone. It’s clear the self obsession here. Watch his next song is a cover of one of Andy’s song just to fuck with everyone. He seems to like to do that. BB you are not smart, don’t fuck with your enemies.

We all just went through a year of pain, JH great job at being completely tone deaf once again. A global pandemic and hundreds of thousands dying, families not being able to say goodbye and grieve. That is enough pain. She needs to stop.

BB if you or people you know are reading this, you liked this bullshit, this is toxic af. She is living in her own reality. She is not helping you. BB you deserve the hate and so does she. Suffering is not a choice. You are both privileged, self obsessed, assholes. Really they need to fuck off!

BB gave two recent shoutouts to this singer - once on his story about the album (“I’m infatuated”) and then on a post by Vance about this song linked below. Liked and commented “I love this song.” He’s now following him. If you read the lyrics, I’m wondering if that’s because he sees the two protagonists as him ministering to the poor little Ho in all her ‘pain’.

R43 As you say, these two (particularly her) have no idea what pain others have gone through this year. She needs to shut the fuck up.

R44 give me a break, when has BB been kind to anyone except when he thinks it will benefit him. Remember when his friends were actually being kind and helping people, he was only supporting JH. His selfishness in itself is cruel. I know someone he hurt and will never mention the details here it is not my story to tell, but he is not as good as he wants you to think. He has let people down and caused pain. Yeah JH I wish you pain. I really do. Maybe with it you will gain actual perspective.

“I ruined my man and this was never in my plans” come on! This whole song is about a man that save a woman. Subtle much. I cannot with this bullshit

R45 that was utterly cruel to drop here and not expect us to grovel for deets. I mean...if you name no names, is it even a story?

Sorry, maybe I wasn’t too clear in R44.

R45 I was saying that he saw it as representing him being kind to The Ho, not to anyone else. Just to clarify. And thanks for dropping those crumbs without any details! Can’t you just give us the scenario without naming names, as R47 suggested? G’wan ;)

R46 The lyric was “I was ruined by man and this was never in my plans, I dreamed of men who loved me” - yes, this is a poor broken woman who needs saving, and BB possibly sees himself as JH’s saviour. (Leaving aside the fact that it was JH who usually ended up ruining the men).

We all know he likes to have meanings behind the songs he chooses, so I thought ‘BB as saviour of JH’ might be the motivation behind his “I love this song’. Maybe, maybe not. Just a thought.

[quote]The lyric was “I was ruined by man and this was never in my plans, I dreamed of men who loved me”

R48 Orrrrrrr. . . perhaps this is a reference to a certain gay men's site that *used* to be full of guys who loved him, but have now dedicated their free time to making him feel as toxic as they can? I mean, *I* enjoy that interpretation ;)

R45 I fully respect the decision not to share, but still. Damn. Was it anyone we know, or (and pardon the phrase) was it a proverbial "nobody." I ask cause it would likely be the latter. To your peers you show your best face. You continue to work and be loved/respected that way. To the little people however.. they exist for you to take advantage of them. They can't ever hold you accountable on their own. They're disposable after all.

Honestly Ho's latest post makes me sick. I damn well told her so too. Saying that there is no such thing as suffering, when she's a rich white woman. With that stupid photo shoot! And then Ben likes it of course. Fuck off to the both of them.

She should come down to my state's courthouse and give testimony at the George Floyd trial. "There's no such thing as suffering anyway, what's the big whoop?"

OR better yet! She can say that in front of our protestors and get her ass lit on fire

OH sorry, I mean, "suffering is a choice", which may as well be the same thing.

Why doesn’t Ben take his dumb ass back to England? He’s a loser and will never be a star.

Okay, so, I don't consider myself a crybaby, but reading up that "suffering is a choice" shit, made me tear up. I was like OK, she's just stupid, don't you dare crying over that! Later I was analysing the situation we are in, losing my friend due to coronavirus, my father losing his job cause of that, the chest pain I was having cause of the same issue... and cried myself to sleep. I haven't been able to see my fucking family for SEVEN MONTHS. SEVEN MONTHS. Missed Christmas, mom's B-day... That's suffering you privileged idiot and it's not a fucking choice. You know nothing about pain.

R35 Could you plese do at least a little story about it? Change the name, unimportant details, etc. I'm sure it would help us all.

R50 Yeah I’ve been on there too as this is a whole new level of crass bullshit. Called him out on it too in the comment. Fucking idiot, liking this sort of crap. Oh and in 11 seconds too, apparently. As the Sleuth pointed out, that’s Montana-quick, so he’s right there with that Crazy Ho.

And JH must’ve been damn busy typing out all those heart emojis on her bot comments. The Sleuth and I think BB’s buying followers too... now whose influence is that?

And yeah, he definitely picked that Andy Grammer song - not her type of thing at all.

You only have to read what R54 has to say to know that suffering is NOT a choice. We feel for you, R54 and reading this type of BS spouted by that insensitive, self-obsessed, money-grubbing little bitch must incense you. Cos it incenses me.

"Suffering is a choice, and Benji and i choose NOT to suffer! We choose to go on vacay, dole out faux-wisdom to the plebs, drink fake ass wine, and live our best lives instead! See how easy that is??" -- JH

R57 Haha yes Syl.

Rest of the world to JH:

You can fuck right off, ya blackface grifting self-serving twat

R56 Further to this, our Sleuth has delved further on this, and as The Twat edited her post it restarted the timer on it. I didn’t realise that! So the person who said 11 secs saw it just after the edit. The original like was 35 minutes later!

Stilll doesn’t change the fact that he liked a steaming pile of self-obsessed insensitive BS.

I am really curious as to how long this can last if they continue being so over the top serious about keeping it a secret. It just doesn’t seem healthy for a relationship to be ducking into another room at your significant other’s family get-togethers to avoid being seen on camera, or what have you (if that’s what’s happening). It’s a whole lot of fuss for no reason and while there may be an initial thrill to the secret-keeping, I can’t see that being fun in the long term.

R60 You’re dead right. While Ben is an attention-whore (Leo/actor mix), the Ho out-whores him on that score every time. She’ll get fucked off with it sooner rather than later. And he sure as hell knows that he’s going to lose a ton of followers if he ever makes it official. The fangirls (those who know about this shitshow, I’m sure some of them don’t even now) will desert in their scores. For the moment, they’re living in an alternative universe where their Benny Boy wouldn’t *ever* get with anyone as awful as the Ho.

When they can’t avoid the truth - boom! They’ll be gone in a heartbeat.

And I also wouldn’t like to be JH in the aftermath of that.

So, interesting intel from a friend of mine. She’s on that “celebrity dating app” Raya, and said she’s seen Ben’s profile on there a few times, starting from about mid-2018. The last time she ever saw him on there was April 2020, which we all know is the time of the first pap walk with JH. She said they never matched on there, but that his profile was “pretty normal for an actor.” Apparently she’s seen other famous actors there who use photos of them at premieres or on sets or from movies to really drive home the point that they’re famous actors. His was a selection of “candid” photos that she then saw on his Instagram, so nothing new to us. Though she said when his profile came up in April, it was a photo of him at the Westworld S3 premiere from just a few weeks before, so he definitely updated it.

Btw, my friend is 27 years old, so at least we know he had his age settings all the way down on that app.

I also did a quick search on Twitter and found someone else who mentioned him being on there, so she’s obviously not the only one who’s seen his profile.

R61 I can’t imagine that having your best friend (Kristy) have to unfollow your boyfriend and having his close friends (Rob, Zelda Williams) have to unfollow you and to make sure none of your family get him in photos is something JH is used to. I also can’t imagine it NOT getting old to have your relationship be a dirty secret — if she’s truly going along with this purely for his benefit and not because she also wants to hide him, I feel sorry for her.

R62 Solid gossip at last - I thank you!!!!

Wait - that’s interesting. From mid-2018? Wasn’t that when he supposedly hooked up with Peyton List, before he went to the UK for GD filming? Keeping his options open then! He obviously never took PL seriously. And we see he’s keeping the predator vibe going with dialled down age limits.

Oh, and how sweet - not been on there since April last year. So do they take their profiles down when they’re not actively looking? Could your friend maybe reconfirm that he’s definitely not currently on there?

Oh and how do you get on it - need an invite from another Raya user, or suchlike I guess?

I didn’t even know what Rays was until I saw it mentioned on Deuxmoi, lmao.

R64 *Raya* !!!

Predictive text is highly irritating sometimes

Ha!!!! Scroll to the ‘cancer’ page (JH). Say what you like about astrology, but....

How fucking spot on is that!!!!!

R62 Interesting! Finally an answer to my long-standing question of, "Where does he meet these totally random actress wanna-bes?" Because they never seem like people who would organically be a part of his little social circle.

R64 not sure about the PL timeline but she showed me a photo she had seen on his profile and it was from when he was filming Punisher 2 and had that buzzcut.

I don’t think she can 100% confirm he’s not currently on it because there’s apparently no way to search for a member, but if she sees him again and tells me, you’ll be the first to know.

A referral is one way to get on that app, or you can just apply. I think either way they comb thru your socials to make sure you’re “cool” — she had to give her IG account for them to take thru her photos. Your profile is also connected to your Instagram so that’s how she knew it was legit him, his official IG was on there. I think she got on it by virtue of being pretty and also working at a major magazine — that’s also why she didn’t swipe on Ben, she said avoids actors because she often has to profile them for work and doesn’t want any conflict of interest, lol.

R62 I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I cannot BELIEVE Ben Barnes is on a dating app. I don't care if it's "only" for hollywood people or however it works (though Goddamn that makes SO much fucking sense now). I cannot believe he's on a dating app!!!

I mean Ben's all shy and sooooo private how could he POSSIBLY ever feel comfortable enough to put himself out there ON A DATING APP?!?!? Once again the private life is a COMPLETE 180 from the carefully crafted public image.

Jesus.. ok asking honestly if anyone knows.. is it possible someone else could have added him on there thinking they were doing him a solid? Or did it absolutely have to be him adding himself? Cause yes, Summer 2018 *should* have been the time of Peyton. No part of this makes sense!!!

R69 well among the other names she told me she saw on there, there was Ricky Whittle and Jason Moore from Punisher so maybe one of those two referred him. You *do* have to pay to be a member though, but I’m sure that’s chump change to a guy who’s also a member at Soho House. She said a lot of the pictures were older photos he had on his IG from 2017 and before (until April, when he updated it) and that it seemed like he mostly chose “goofy” pics of himself, like the ones of him hanging on the rocks from Westworld BTS. No super clear indicator that he was an actor otherwise, except that you do have to put your profession on the profile. Not sure how long he had been on it but she saw him when she first got the app in 2018. Oh, and apparently you have to select a song to go on your profile — she said that Ben’s was “Mess Around” by Ray Charles, which she said she only remembered because it seemed to indicate very clearly what he was looking for, lmao.

This does indicate that he was single and looking for someone in April right before the pap walk happened. Maybe he thought JH was a better alternative to swiping endlessly. But is it?? Idk, knowing what we know about him now, I would tell my friend to steer clear, but in another timeline, I actually think she would have been good for him but of course I’m biased.

R70 I was gonna ask if your friend could remember what was on his profile so thanks for the song info. What a choice, Jeez!!!

What was the ‘blurb’ - can she remember?

Lover of life, singer of songs?

Shafter of young wannabe’s??!!

Lucky escape for your friend, I’m thinking.

R71 I just asked and she said there wasn’t a bio when he updated it in April (they’re not required on the app I guess). But apparently before that, his “main” photo was a black and white pic from a shoot where he’s wearing a white button down shirt and she remembers the bio being some sort of self deprecating joke about how many buttons he had undone in the photo. Which sounds on brand!

Also, she said she had seen his profile circulated in that app the most out of any other actors she had seen on there, which, knowing what I know about algorithms makes me wonder if it was because *he* was consistently trying to match with her. Then again, idk how that app works, but if my theory is correct, we are right again that he has no qualms about trying to link up with a 27-year-old (26 at the time she last saw him on it).

R69 Ok, I'll play Devil's Advocate for a minute -- one could say that precisely BECAUSE BB is so shy and awkward and all that shit is why he uses a dating app. Because he's too shy and retiring to approach women in real-life scenarios. Plus women on the app have in some ways been vetted which saves him time and effort. Shy + lazyness = app.

And this way he gets an industry person who will hopefully understand his travails as an actor. *eye roll*

R73 you’re right about vetting — my friend is technically breaking “rules” just telling me all this. Apparently if you try to screenshot someone’s profile on there, the app flashes up with a warning that you could get kicked out for doing that more than once. It’s basically Fight Club, you can’t really even talk about it. All the secrecy really does line up with his MO.

Mess Around. Specifying how many buttons are *already* undone on your clothes. The women of The Punisher crew gave him the reputation of being a fuckboy. And he's trying to match with mid-20s women on a Hollywood exclusive dating app.

Ben Barnes is a slut. Pure and simple. After all, "God wouldn't have given him this if He didn't want him to share the wealth." I wonder what the original convo was in the script, and how much influence Ben had in re-writing it to include that line. He's made the point that he requires the ability to do that.

No but really ladies, he's always seen himself as a family man. He really wants to have children! But he knows he has to take his time to make sure he can get the relationship right, his parents taught him all about that! Even pushing forty, so little time left to properly take your time and build a good solid partnership.

Oh and in case it isn't COMPLETELY clear to anyone, let me spell it out for you. . .

Ben Barnes has NOTHING inside of him but bullshit. And that pretty face won't continue to hide the lies forever. Just drop the ACT and fucking own it already.

Would someone please explain to me what does "undone buttons" joke means? As a non english speaker I'm having the high standard of not understanding dumb jokes about sexualisation, which I presume is the case.

R72 Thank you for the info. I bet it was that B&W pic of him with his chin in his hand and shirt unbuttoned to show off his (at the time) chest hair.

Which I miss!

R76 according to my friend the joke was something like “anyone else disturbed by how many buttons I have undone in this photo??” so not necessarily sexual in nature but it did give me a bit of an eye roll, lol.

R76 Please see R77. Looking sexceeeeeeeee in other words!!!!!

R75 He’s Dorian Fucking Gray!!!!!

R76 R78 Following on from my post at R77, I’ve tracked it dow, Gotta be this one, surely?

R81 *down*

I do have to say, it is sexy (apologies)

R78 Ohhhhh disagree with you there love.. Just think, what is inherently disturbing about buttons? What is inherently disturbing about a white shirt, with or without buttons? If you saw a shirt on a hanger and it wasn't buttoned up, would that EVER disturb you in any way? No, all those things are perfectly normal. We don't button up shirts on hangers because that would make them harder to take off. And it's not like we're covering anything up when it's on the hanger, so leave the buttons undone. . .

This shirt isn't on a hanger. It's on a person. Who's on a dating app. And the shirt is already half undone. Which he's making sure you notice.

Is it a disturbing question? Or is it an arousing one. Is it self-deprecation? Or is it manipulation.

R83 Fair point! And R81 I showed my friend that photo and she said it is indeed the one he used as his main pic for a while.

Aaaand messing around means he just want to "have fun", right. Nothing serious?

Oh and btw, The Ho, whose rich white *privileged* ass believes suffering is a CHOICE, is on her way to a live speaking event with feminist icon Gloria Steinem.

So OF COURSE the long hair extensions had to make a reappearance!

Message to BOTH Ben and The Ho..

When. Everything. About. You. Needs. To. Be. Fake. To. Have. ANY. Appeal. To. Everyone. Else. There. Is. Something. Acutely. And. Appallingly. WRONG. With. You.

"Good heavens, what a dreadful photo! Look at those buttons. Of course I am far too much of an old-fashioned English gentleman to ever pose in such an unbuttoned state; but the stylist simply insisted! It’s really rather embarrassing. NOT so embarrassing that I won’t use the photo in my profile and draw you ladies’ attention to my wanton unbuttoned-ness, but really most unseemly I do say!"

- BTB

On a semi-related note, I always had a sinking feeling that Ben was going too Hollywood when he shaved off his chest hair.

R86 Absolutely. Hope they get caught in the car door as she gets out.

Wonder if the Loyal Puppy’s following along behind?

Right enough, might be too many empowered women with more than a single brain cell in one room for his tastes.

On that note, why the fuck is the Ho even attending? If she’s speaking, please - will all that’s holy save us from her ‘wisdom’.

Is it too much to hope that someone might call her out either on covid-travelling or her BS posts?

Happy visions of someone taking verbal potshots at her in public where she’s got nowhere to hide.

OH PLEASE!!!! Make it happen.

R87 Remember Syl.. Ben believes girls want the bad boys. And he was raised to be decent. He's too well behaved to ever do something like this.

Yeah sure he's a gentleman in bed. Until the next morning when he gets out of bed and let's you know he was just messing around.

R84 BTW, can you leave reviews on this app? Or at least warnings for fuckboys?

R84 Thanks for confirming, I thought as much! Sexy smoulder plus chest hair plus unbuttoned shirt - bound to reel in the ladyeeez, huh?

R87 Yes, seems to be a US thing!!

JH on the private jet with Nina and Shaun with her long hair and white shirt she has on in her stories. I cannot imagine what Gloria must think of this twat which her 70’s extensions. You can dress up, but you will never be a woman who has great influence.

I think Napa is happening, look out for BB.

Also him on a dating app because he is a grown man in his mid to late 30’s who can talk to woman. The shy thing is an act. If you aren’t rich enough, or connected enough, or can’t advance his career I can assume he will treat you like shit. He is as Hollywood as they come. Disgusting.

Who cannot talk to woman* fuck technology

Was the speaking thing pre recorded? It looks like in her stories she is in the car going to the plane today. Shaun just posted taking off on the plane an hour ago. Maybe the extensions are for the shitty wine promo Napa trip not for the speaking thing? They were drinking it on the plane. Also anyone know who the girl is on the plane? Her account public?

Napa is happening my friends, also loved all the negative comments on her suffering is a choice post. Keep calling the bullshit out!

Is that woman Paul Wesley’s wife? After Montana Nina and him did hang out with them and then Shaun immediately followed Paul.

I thought how funny, Paul got a follow and Ben got nothing. I’m sure they spent more time with Ben. How much must that piss Ben off if Paul went to Napa with them and not him? Like dang what a way to say hey Benny boy fuck off with your unfollow. You are part of the cool kids group.

I’m sure there will be so many stories of them in the vineyard and eating dinner. They are all going to just get drunker as the day goes on. BB hope you are not there, the hate will be coming for you.

R94 Yeah wasn’t that a slap in the chops for Ben. ‘We don’t mind* and you don’t matter”

* dropping you in it with our ever-so-slightly-late-stickering on dog sled vid .... lmfao

Normally I wouldn't push my own shit, but y'know if anyone has a throwaway if and wants to use this to troll the ho, feel free to borrow.

R96 Oh that’s brilliant!!!!!!!!

R96 R97 In fact I’ve just read it a second time and it’s even better second time around!!!

I don’t get the 1:11 on April 11th story? I know 11:11 is like twin flame number in the land of fairies and unicorns. Hearts at the fact that it is 111. Numerology? Why? Who cares?

R99 She's announcing to the world that she's super single. Obvi.

R96 There are times when plugging your own shit is doing the lord's work. Excellent, EXCELLENT job sir.

*standing ovation*

::curtsy:: ;)

R99 I shudder to think...could it be some "anniversary" with...you know.....?

Their first pap walk was April 16.

R99 Hmmmm.... 11 minutes past 1 pm? I think that’s when she posted it.

But the significance of that? Only Jules and her one brain cell know that.

Or maybe that's what time she's speaking.

R103 Oh please.... no need to repost it lmao.

Also I always wondered about No Shoes Ho.

Didn’t have time to put them on before her date with Backgrid?

Or maybe Benji didn’t put them on for her as he was supposed to do. Naughty puppy!

I did a pictorial...

R108 Wonderful work!! Bravo!!!

R105 Nope. There was a kinrgy class first thing yesterday morning, and then she did a half hour "conversation" with an alumna of USC at 10:50. In other words, someone no one has ever heard of.

And btw.. as you all can see, Gloria Steinem is the Keynote speaker hooouuuuurrrrrrrrrrsssss later at 3pm. When The Ho had long since been (probably) in Napa. So her advertising that "she was so excited to be speaking alongside Gloria" was, as always, complete and utter BULLSHIT. Just her usual 'trying to make herself seem so much better and more important than she actually is' *BULLSHIT*.

Does anyone think they even met??? Or would it have been another case of a respectable older woman taking one look at that fake ass twat and condescendingly seeing right through to the bullshit underneath.

Awwww so JH was just clout chasing as it looks like the talk was virtual. She tries so hard. Maybe today is the sweet love birds anniversary. BB just follows Nina and Shaun on his new private insta because he knows we are watching all of them. He is now super private because of all the bullying. I really hope they all hate him, he is alone, having to sit with the consequences of his actions.

Those were black seats in the vehicle in her story. Ben's vehicle?

R112 No, shouldn't have been, I checked. Ben has a giant moon roof and no massive backseat capabilities. "Her" car this morning didn't and did have a bunch of seatbelts everywhere. Probably a hired vehicle.

As he didn’t travel with them up there, we’ll need to keep eyes peeled on the ND/SW stan accounts for more restaurant pics if he joins them later (like Montana?)

But I think ND & SW have cut him out of this trip. Get the feeling they weren’t too keen? He could of course be following on another as yet-undiscovered private account, but why bother?

They didn’t follow him on either public or previous private accounts, they never liked his posts, there was the instant follow to the Paul guy, there was StickerGate.... nah. He’s toast, as far as they’re concerned. He might’ve tried to fit in with them all, but I don’t think he ever really clicked with them.

And if his ‘busy schedule’ didn’t clash with their flight up there, would they really have given the fourth & last seat to their friend/stylist? When SW was right there with ND? Not sure they would have.

He’s either not going, or might travel up later. Eyes peeled, sleuths!

They're getting restless. Taking to making memes. This is getting serious.

JH next to ND in these stories you really see the crazy coming out. ND seems cool and refined and then you have like the weird toddler just running around yelling things. Once again I don’t understand why she has any influence or has a platform.

As the sleuth pointed out, The Ho's bio NOW says *Co-founder* of wine. . . . Just now? You decided to finally make that adjustment just now? How magnanimous. Maybe she realized Nina might start "suffering" otherwise.

(Humorously enough, the guy reflected in Nina's glasses doesn't appear to be in the group shot, but then, who took that group photo? So many fun questions!)

Muhahaha

R118 Confused....link to the wine page, but no new posts. I’d seen the stories, am I missing something here??

Oh sorry, the pics page. Unless they untagged....nope!

So these wine guys just basically swindle celebrities to put their name on wine. JH and ND haven’t built anything, they are just putting their names on something. So they are not founders of a company, they are just doing typical celebrity bullshit. BB how sad were you to see all the laughter and bullshit without you? They didn’t even need you to take pictures? Your whole role they gave to someone else, man you must be so bummed.

Jesus Christ, her stories seems so fake, full of awkward laughing and "what am I supposed to do with this glass", omg! Why would you buy this overpriced shit? Just to support her?

So since BB didn’t go to Napa, I mean he could be there right now who knows. Just assuming he didn’t go, than I don’t think JH and him are a thing anymore. I definitely think they were fucking for a while and tried to keep it on the dl because she was married and then separated and then back together and then divorced. Unless there will be a big reveal right before the 23rd. If they did come out, would you support S&B? Has all the allure from our once so dreamy Benny gone? Is there separating the artist from the art anymore?

I had no plans to support S&B in the first place, so won't change a thing either way. I'm done with him regardless; as has been said before -- it's nothing to do with his couple status. It's the constant lying and evasions of the turth...of responsibility...of accountability.

I'm with Syl. My rage is not because he's thinking with his dick, it's because he turned out to be a rubbish human. I really really wish none of the last year had come to light as far as his bullshit because I liked some of his characters.

No, I won't be supporting s&b. It looked like crap to begin with and I was only going to watch it for him when it was announced. I've spent years supporting his work when it was absolute garbage because I thought he was a good person and a fine actor, but the shit that he puts out isn't worth watching if you hate who he is and what (who) he's done. Shoulda kept your dick out of that hole, Benji.

It doesn't appear that he cares at all because his numbers keep going up, but those teeny bopper fans aren't gonna stay around for much longer and eventually he may care when he's not invited to those oh-so-lucratove cons when his career is officially washed up.

Based on social media postings, my guess is that BB and RK stayed home watching the BAFTAs while the Ho was on her Napa "business trip."

Such a day to realize you accidentally left your phone at home just as you get to work. Sorry for the long catch up..

Ben posted a story of a BAFTA winner's acceptance speech. Who cares? No one except that the official S&B account (not a leak) released new material today. Ben didn't amplify it to his nearly 1 million followers on IG (though he does allow it on his tagged page). Ben didn't even like any tweets about it, much less tweet something himself to further its release. Huh.

Yesterday may have been Napa day, but today was DEFINITELY promotion day. Those two were going at it all day, including reposting each other's material (is that how it's supposed to work???). And Ben didn't like The Ho's "Napa selfie with Nina" post. Is that because.. 1. It's obvious Ben hates Nina now (more on that later) or 2. Ben NEVER supports The Ho's career and/or professional/business ventures, only ever her simple selfies when she shows off how pretty/sexy she is (like every good, stable, HEALTHY relationship, right?).

Chike finally posted to IG today to announce featuring on a magazine cover. Ben's blue check mark did the obligatory like and heart emoji reply. And now just look at alllllll those other blue check marked replies too!! Now this is not intended as negative commentary on Chike in any way, but he doesn't even crack 12K followers and is on a magazine. But he gets the blue check love here. Ben has nearly 1 million followers and is starring in a BIG budget flagship Netflix show. Yet he doesn't seem to get the same lately. Huh.

And now I ponder.. Nearly 40yo pointedly half undressed dating app member privately advertises that he wants to mess around to women welllllllll under thirty. Yet same guy publicly yearns for love and marriage and children, but does not EVER admit to being in a relationship. Actually not only doesn't admit it, but refers to friendship only. Now, we've always assumed it was just "because he was such a private person." But what do you think are the chances it's actually because players need game. How much easier would it be to mess around, maybe even with multiple ladies at once, if you're never in a publicly established relationship? Yeah sure, women talk. But there are a loottttttttttt of women in Hollywood. What percentage of them are really pretty? And what percentage of *them* are looking to leverage how pretty they are, especially in their twenties. Is that a worthy game for a player?

Speaking of women talking, what are the chances that Nina put the final kibosh on The Ho's relationship with Ben? And what are the chances it's because women talk, and Nina knew some shit. I mean, she does still follow Brooksy even long after her best friend's divorce. And remember when Ben posted this song AND INCLUDED THE LYRICS AGAIN (I know you haven't made your mind up yet. . .)? Cause it was a little over a month after the first pap walk. You know, when inside sources reported it was MORE THAN just JH leaning on her friend through her really tough time.

What are the chances.. Huh.

R127 Ha what a thought - ND spilling some dirt to the Ho on wonder boy. And yeah, the full lyric thing was definitely one of his ‘songs with meaning messages’. Another one I won’t be able to listen or watch to again. Then of course the Ho started dancing around with Brooks again and we get ‘Jealousy’. I do still think that one was *very* close to the Ho filing for divorce. But maybe she kept him dangling till the last second.

And the dating app thing? Mid life crisis for sure. Wanting to relive his Caspian glory day in his late twenties, ‘you’re only as old as who you’re feeling’. I think he also doesn’t know what he wants - what with the settling down shit talking he does - and another reason that any ‘real’ relationship between him and the Ho would probably end up worse than Johnny & Amber.

I still wanna know what r45 was talking about.

R129 Yeah me too!

14 threads by the same two women obsessed with this scrawny aging Hebrew. Makes me long for the Timmy freaks.

R131 is there some sort of requirement I'm unaware of that forces you to come into this thread and read? If not, you can just scamper along to your timmy threads or whatever twink you fap to and leave us to our aging limey. Thanks.

R132 I wonder if we struck a nerve?

We? My God, did it take more than one person to write that? The US education system is really failing.

And Doctor Who nerds in here?

R134 I'm not sure who you were referring to love, but I was wondering if we collective Ben 'once-fans' struck a nerve with the poster at R131. I ask because that post is literally the only one he or she's made according to Datalounge's recent memory. It just seemed so strange that they haven't posted ANYTHING else ANYWHERE else recently, but chose to come in here tonight to troll us.. I mean, you don't have to pay to just lurk on here..

Just seemed peculiar that we so inspired him or her to come out of the woodwork just now. So I wondered if we struck a nerve. *shrug*

Ah r136 my humble apologies, I was striking out at the wrong person. I went and blocked them and then looked at blocked posts and they're all mocking Benji and all mention his heritage. Not to defend him since we're mad at him and all, but it has nothing to do with his parentage! So keep your racist ranting to yourself and hate him for the same reasons we do! Jerk.

"Lover of Life,

Singer of Songs,

Nearly 40yo Pointedly Half Undressed Dating App Member."

HeeHee. Thank you for that excellent summary of where things currently stand in Barnesville, R127. I don't have an opinion on the Nina angle yet. I could see her trash-talking Ben to JH all the time. On the other hand, women do talk and if half the shit they've said about Shaun on CDAN is true, then Miss Nina needs to look to her own backyard before she tries to bust anyone else's misguided relationship.

Syl yeah Shaun does not have an awesome reputation. Watched a documentary with him in it and all the other snowboarders were like yeah he’s an asshole. Definitely think Nina influenced something between JH and BB. Or maybe JH was playing games from the beginning and Nina was like dude you need to stop, like that is not cool.

So weird to see an image of JH without a filter. That new pic you can see how she is really aging. Doesn’t she get work done? It kind of shocked me, so used to seeing the filtered face.

Of the various SW stories on CDAN, this is my favorite. No wonder Ben wanted to buddy up to him!

R140 Jeez, Syl, that’s so crass! What a dick, in all senses of the word. And does anybody here actually find him attractive? I really don’t. I know that isn’t necessarily the first consideration for the Hollyweird single ladies (net worth, supposed power and influence, number of cars, yachts, houses etc) but shit, he’s fugly.

BB can only dream of being that bad. He probably tried a little “all guys together’ chat with Shauny Boy up in ole Montana, but I bet he saw through Benji’s faux bad boy persona in a heartbeat. I think that no matter how much he might want to be one, he just *isn’t*. His upbringing’s always there in the back of his mind.

Yeah, he might ‘Mess Around’ and trawl that app looking for twenty-somethings to fuck, but when he drops them (or they drop him, fed up with The Invisible Life and can see it’s going nowhere) he still likes their posts! Unless he’s seeing someone new, and then he puts that on hold.

Awwww.

Seen this? Firstly - sexy wizard general? That’ll look good on his resumé.

Read the first few lines of the first answer. Bit too late Benny Boy.

Just in case you can’t access it for some reason...

“I was sent a single episode of the script. I thought, "This is a really interesting world, but I've done fantasy." And I've also played some nefarious, manipulative untrustworthy characters and I didn't think I wanted to do any more in case people start to see me in that light.”

R142 BWWAAAAAHHHHH HAAAA HAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

Oh that was too good! Ya know, makes me wonder now..

What if Ben only became the nefarious, manipulative untrustworthy character we've recently come to know only *after* playing the sexy magical general because CLEARLY, that's what the universe was telling him he was meant to be. Naaahhhhh.. Not even Ben would be that stupid. . . right?

Ben stomping around the room, crumpling up the Hollywood Reporter: "Dammit I said MACHO wizard general!! Like MAXIMUS, I said!!"

*falls dramatically onto sofa, bereft*

R144 I'll do you one better Syl. This is apparently a *British* magazine. And they've clearly never heard of Ben. And also can't be bothered to do the LITERAL bare minimum to look him up.

Did you guys know Ben was in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier? I mean, its run hasn't ended yet, so maybe there's still hope. We all know how good Ben is at keeping secrets and never admitting what (who??) he's doing on the sly..

R145 I've watched every episode so far and I haven't seen anyone blink rapidly or have a panic attack, but I suppose I could have missed it...

Isn't there a difference in being secretive between who are you dating and who are you playing?

Nothing particularly worthwhile for nearly the whole thing. For the part that made my ears perk up however, skip to 4:15 for the context question, and then the relevant part of Ben's answer starts about 4:45ish.

Hmmmmm.. wonder if you're going "through" anything Ben? Wonder if The Ho was your personal Sunsummoner? I mean she's definitely full of high vibrations, divine energy, positive thoughts and SPARKLES!!!!!! Of course I can think of something else she's full of. . . .

Follow-up question.. Does constantly trying to cure your demons with sparkly positive thoughts, inspirational memes and especially NEVER acknowledging or facing accountability for your actions count in ANY way as "going around The Fold" instead of through it? I wonder. . . .

Nothing particularly worthwhile for nearly the whole thing. For the part that made my ears perk up however, skip to 4:15 for the context question, and then the relevant part of Ben's answer starts about 4:45ish.

Hmmmmm.. wonder if you're going "through" anything Ben? Wonder if The Ho was your personal Sunsummoner? I mean she's definitely full of high vibrations, divine energy, positive thoughts and SPARKLES!!!!!! Of course I can think of something else she's full of. . . .

Follow-up question.. Does constantly trying to cure your demons with sparkly positive thoughts, inspirational memes and especially NEVER acknowledging or facing accountability for your actions count in ANY way as "going around The Fold" instead of through it? I wonder. . . .

Yeah I bet you're "having a problem loading thread" DL, considering you just posted that twice for some reason. *rolls eyes*

*Puts on halo*

R151 And i oop

I want to sneak into Ben's house and rearrange his precisely placed stack of Zoom Meeting books. He'd lose his mind.

R151 BTW, just because I feel like this lot usually trolls him on IG, not so much on twitter. . . is there something *else* these girls are referencing that I definitely want to know about?? I unfortunately still have work to do *sigh* so I can't check for myself. But if any of you are bored and feel like doing a little sleuthing. . . might be fun for all!

(though I did appreciate that this blurb referenced *Ben's* sinister character. Fun with grammar? Or do they *know* too..)

((also is there a more quintessentially Ben Barnes tactic than to just ignore your problems until they go away cause letting them affect you is *beneath* your status?))

I really need to step out of my comfort zone and troll him on twitter, too. I've just been lazy spending all my time on IG and I see him getting complacent on the tweeties. I'll do better.

The tweet linked above is saying Ben has seen the fans sexual / h*rny tweets about him. Not about ones on Instagram or Twitter from here.

I tried taking the fight to Twitter, but it was too lonely.

R157 Ha yeah I don’t think people even know who BB is, let alone care. He really alienated the people that have followed him for years. The more he uses that JH rhetoric like grounded to the earth just makes me annoyed. I thought I might check out S&B, but the after all of this bullshit I’m done.

He never addressed anything, so cool have fun with the fangirls that will be gone in a couple years. They were referencing hate on twitter in that article and BB has seen it because he untags himself and blocks it all. Cool just ignore it and be the loser you are.

[quote] also is there a more quintessentially Ben Barnes tactic than to just ignore your problems until they go away cause letting them affect you is *beneath* your status?

No, there isn't. Maybe it's a British thing. It's essentially the same as QEII's motto -- "Never complain, never explain."

And we see how well that's worked out for HER family's personal relations over the years!

R(the past ten comments or so..) Kinda getting at what I'm wondering about.. What specifically is the reference being made in that tweet? Is it being harassed by haters, cause that's not us. So do we have actual allies out there or is it ubiquitous universal twitter trolls.. Or, is it suggestive sexual commentary and *that* is what made him leave twitter?

Are we supposed to believe he's only now getting people telling him how hot he is? Cause he's been accepted as hot for decades now. Is it just now that teenagers have discovered him or something? And are we to believe that he actually finds it "disconcerting." Cause that's the most milquetoast politician's answer I've ever heard. Susan Collins was infamously "deeply concerned" over Trump too. Yet did she ever do anything about it, or did she just privately reap the benefits of his policies with a publicly furrowed brow.

I don't remember/have easy access to the specific examples, but Ben HAS said something on twitter in the past about 'better behaving ourselves' within his fandom. He was inspired then, but not now. Why is it beneath him to say anything NOW if it's something so horrible that he can barely bring himself onto twitter anymore. Or is it something only "slightly concerning."

And this is why I'm hoping for the specific examples of what's being referenced in that tweet. Cause I can see some giant holes in his logic swiss cheese!

Also just to quickly have some fun, skip to the last two paragraphs..

"Characters that exist in the shadows of life, that's not where I prefer to live, I prefer to live in the sunshine if I can.."

Tell me guys, who/how many out there *PREFERS* to live in the shadows of life? Or is THAT where suffering is a choice comes in!!! I get it now!

How much rich white male privilege do you have to have to not be able to see how incredibly STUPID and out of touch you sound to everyone out there with *far* less than you have. God he's an idiot.

R160 I would wager that it's specifically the "daddy" shit he finds disturbing. This is a relatively new thing that he wouldn't have been exposed to before.

#SpankMeDarklingDaddy

R162 R163 Shouldn’t have posted that freaking ‘Calm heed at tea’ then, should he.

With the faux exasperated look when he sees the answer. Knew exactly what he was doing. Maybe that went on his Raya profile?

Lordy, it’s tedious how many times the teenies return to that stupid post.

Ngl, that daddyish bullshit is gross. I wouldn't blame him for that.

R165 Yes it is - but we know he likes them young, don’t we? Maybe he secretly likes it, who knows?

R166 Well if that is the naughty and offensive "suggestive" commentary referenced, Ben merely considered it "disconcerting" and "slightly concerning"

Seriously, exactly how offensive could he actually find it?

Just to put a finer point on it.. The evidence seems to be showing that it's actually the fraus that have a problem with social media recently, not Ben. Look at that comment linked below. Look at all the comments on the tweet linked at R151. Ben isn't saying/doing anything (except the contractually required *literal* bare minimum of course), the fraus are.

But talk about a pathetic EXCUSE. He literally cares so very little for his "long time fans" that he won't continue to engage with and support them regardless of changes. He won't say anything about the toxic place his social media has apparently become so they feel more comfortable coming to it. Nope, he's just going to flippantly ignore and disregard everyone and leave even the True Blues in the lurch to deal with his shit FOR HIM.

When are you going to get it through your thick skulls fraus? Ben. Does. Not. Give. A. Fuck. About. You. He could NOT be telegraphing it more if he hired planes to skywrite it in neon letters above each of your houses.

(And for the sleuth.. yes he could absolutely be buying IG followers, as The Ho would have taught him how.. Or it could be the phenomenon referenced here. His shitty choices have brought the "undesirables" out of the woodwork IN DROVES to stan his suggestively hot ass. *shrug*)

Hmmmm.. so where' Ben?

This certainly does NOT appear to be the infamous evergreen that's always out the window in his piano cover posts, nor any of the other trees we've seen in his or rob's pics from home. I wonder if he's gone somewhere special today?!?

[quote] won't say anything about the toxic place his social media has apparently become

Not sure what he could say that wouldn't alienate his new "fans," and then it would be #CancelDarkling forever. Promo for this shit show has been going on for so long I tend to forget that it hasn't even aired yet. What if all the Grisha-freaks hate it? Wouldn't that be delightful?

R169 No idea where that is. The trees look too thick to be on his usual hiking route.

R170 Fully concede there's a fine line to walk if he was to say something, but as I implied, he doesn't necessarily have to if he was worried about it. He could just continue to engage normally with the "good fans" and ignore the muck. But he's not, and even the die hards are starting to complain about it. Of course, they're laying the blame with the new "bad fans" because it couldn't POSSIBLY be Ben that bears ANY responsibility for throwing them to the curb too. It couldn't possibly be good, sweet, innocent, caring, loving Ben Barnes that considers himself above interacting with the little people these days. I mean, he does truly and obviously appreciate them. . . right?

Awww look, I almost missed it! Chike decided to throw Ben a bone and added his blue check mark to the comments on this go around.

Such a good friend!

R171 He looked at 3 of WLBB’s stories yesterday....

... ‘squeals and rubs it in all the other panting fangirls’ faces’

R173 Yeah alright, I'm old.. how do you see whether one account has viewed another account's stories?

I'm sorry, but why did he like this just now? Someone's bored? Maybe he should go outside and talk to the birds again?

(for the sleuth.. yes, LA opened up vaccines to everyone the other day, so he's eligible now)

R174 Because she posted it on her story so everyone knows lmao

R175 Wait, what? Am I missing something here? This account describes itself as a ‘Movie Character’, who is 17 and doesn’t know better. The post is from 6 February and isn’t tagged and he doesn’t follow her, so how the hell did he find this?

The account has lots of pix of a very young-looking girl in various poses?

Can someone explain this to me please???!!

Isn't he tagged?

No, not tagged. Was he maybe tagged then untagged?

Did someone else he knows like it first?

Who the hell knows?

I'm creeped out because she looks like a younger, even more basic version of the Ho.

He is tagged in the photo.

You're right, he is. I forgot to toggle between my "blocked by BB" account and my "not-yet blocked by BB" account before viewing. HA!

Still creepy, though. Misguided at bare minimum.

R181 Way to go, BB .... ignore all your adoring fans and fan pages and like a post from a basic 17yo weirdo. Creepy.

Alright I don't know the area. . . any chance there's a bird of prey infestation in the lush trees of Santa Monica these days?

Hmm, there ARE a lot of parks near there. Check out the Santa Ynez Falls as just one example.

This made me laugh and think of dickweed.

Looks like the Ho is enjoying a refresh & recharge weekend in and around Santa Monica. Yesterday she was getting spa treatments...while BB went hiking nearby? Seems plausible.

R185 Because Dan Rather is a bit of a GOAT, and Ben is. . . not.

But quick poll.. Is Ben wondering if he's a literal bird whisperer better or worse than thinking he's a literal genius for "inventing" a lazy man's crepe? Oh I'm sorry.. bancake.

R186 Well the spa treatments were in west hollywood, and I assumed those happened towards the evening (though obviously can't be sure) so that easily leaves plenty of time for a morning/afternoon hike together.

BTW.. Rob is roadtripping his way through California today. No sign he's not alone yet.

Hmmm.. so we all know how much Ben *LOVES* the beach. His housemate took a relaxing Sunday Funday drive there today. . . and Ben didn't come with him??

Got something better to do Ben?

Let's see how long it lasts. . . .

R190 Not bad, nearly a half hour or so.. Though it is funny that originally both Ben and The Ho were tagged, and now they're both not tagged at apparently the same time????? Did one see it first and let the other know, or did they see it together..

Inquiring minds and all..

How do you know it was at the same time?i believe they both are being tagged on shitty photos, like daily, so I wouldn't make a big deal outta that.

R192 It's just an observation, as Ben does check and detag rather religiously all day. But The Ho *most* of the time stays tagged for *quite* a bit longer. This one was a change on pattern where they both untagged very quickly at nearly the same time, and I wondered why. That's all!

So he decided to bother to see this AND reply daaayyyyyyyss later.

Who's he talking to and/or about? What could be the hidden messages? Have fun!

My eyes just rolled right out of my head at these last two paragraphs.

*sigh*

R195 But...but...Ben said didn't want the role! He was gonna turn it down! But meanwhile he's out there checking his Tumblr tags and seeing dollar signs.

R196 So he constantly checks his Instagram tags.

He's always checking his Twitter tags and mentions to see what people are saying about him. (cause it's disconcerting that fans call him daddy?)

He (often???) searches his Tumblr tags to possibly get ideas on what overly crappy fancasting he should go after next. (to the point of sending his picture to a digital artist to transform him into batman.. *SSSIIIIIIIIIIIIGGHHHH*)

So does he spend ANY time OFF of his phone and *not* looking himself up all over the internet? Just think to the infamous orange beanie Montana photo when he was. . . on his phone.

A reminder that Narcissus was so obsessed with himself he became oblivious to all the danger he found himself in and then died alone.

Oh God. . . does that make The HoughMonster Echo? Cause I may vomit. That's it, he just jumped the shark. Ben Barnes' life is officially a fucking Greek Tragedy.

He was talking about a line in the books. It’s something the darkling says to Alina.

Huh. This was actually a good interview that I actually enjoyed reading for the first time in I literally don't remember how long. Mainly because it was an actual interview of a person instead of the *same* talking point answers he gives to basically the same questions over and over and over again that make me want to claw my eyes out to read.

Will wonders ever cease. Apparently Ben is at least capable of being interesting on occasion. Huh.

Okay, so I've read most of the books mentioned there, except the Obama one. I'm not gonna lie, these books are good and pretty deep. He even mentiones Denisovich. I'm confused. How can he be spending time with someone utterly stupid (I'd be surprised if the HO knows how to read), yet he can quote something so beautiful. How can he be so obviously hypocratic, yet so "book educated". Like what the fuck. You won't spend your time trying to get a match with a girl in her 20s and read about Denisovich, it's just making no sense.

R197 I was just trying to point out the contradictions. On the one hand he's been saying that he wanted to turn down the role. But on the other hand, he was researching it (if looking at Tumblr counts as "research") and angling to get the part. Whatever, Ben. I wonder how much the realization that there was a new, big, female fanbase awaiting him helped him change his mind?

R200 So I zeroed in on the "Solve for Happy" book he mentioned, because it sounded obnoxious, and here's the blurb:

"One of Solve for Happy's key premises is that happiness is a default state. If we shape expectations to acknowledge the full range of possible events, unhappiness is on its way to being defeated. To steer clear of unhappiness traps, we must dispel the six illusions that cloud our thinking (e.g., the illusion of time, of control, and of fear); overcome the brain's seven deadly defects (e.g., the tendency to exaggerate, label, and filter), and embrace five ultimate truths (e.g., change is real, now is real, unconditional love is real)."

That sounds to me like "suffering is a choice." In fact, here's one of the 1-star Amazon reviews:

"His tone is arrogant and his overarching message is that we as humans actively CHOOSE and HAVE CHOSEN to be unhappy and have extended depressive episodes. This is a very dangerous message to send to those who are struggling. Everyone's version of happiness is unique to them and their path to find it is highly individual - there is no single "right" way as this book would suggest. "

Did BB and the Ho read this book together?

No because there’s no way she’s intelligent enough to read a book like that.

I dunno, sounds like the sort of Oprah pop-psych tripe she'd love.

[quote]I was just trying to point out the contradictions.

R201 Oh I understood, don't worry. I was just extending the thought to make fun of him.

And that 1star review touched on the problem with that "I don't even have to read this to know it's TRASH" book. . . .

That book is obviously and unequivocally the manual that privileged people use to excuse their lives and privilege. Yes, babies are born tabula rasa style. A majority are born to parents that sacrifice anything to care for them, so the first emotion they truly "learn" is happiness. When young children, those same babies grow to play all day with no responsibilities and parents that still sacrifice to care for them. They're still mostly happy (aside from hearing no, which brings sadness. . . wait..)

We start off happy because everything is provided for us. So what changes and when? Well for the extremely privileged like Ben and The HoughMonster, *nothing*. They can afford to continue to have everything provided for them. They can continue to be happy and full of sunshine and SPARKLES All. The. Time.

Problem is, society is a zero sum game. In order for them to be happy all the time, the rest of us HAVE to suffer and go without all the time, because they won't share the literal OR proverbial wealth. It would diminish their "natural" happiness to do so.

Reading books like this teaches the privileged how to live with themselves as they live with everything else the rest of us could use a whole lot more of. It gives them the excuses to convince their rotten brains that they lack all guilt and are doing nothing wrong. They're just continuing on the happy path they've deserved from birth after all.

After all, suffering is a choice, and happiness is our naturally derived default state.

I wonder if Ben and The Ho EVER watch the news, or does REALITY cause too much cognitive dissonance and empathy? I wonder if they know that half a million children in Yemen are literally on the brink of dying from starvation as we speak? I wonder if even *ONE* of those children was "born happy" but chooses now to suffer into a famine and death at 15 months old? Why didn't their young brains just choose to eat their way into a happier life? Maybe they're not old enough to read this book.

If Ben Barnes read this book and thinks or speaks of it with ANYTHING but derision, that is literal proof to me that he is a spoiled *rotten* asshole who does not care about anyone but himself. He *cannot* be a good person and see this book in a positive light. People who can't see this book for the soulless danger it is are the fundamental problem in this world.

JH may want to take down her latest post. Looks like she is in jail and considering what just went down with the guilty verdict in the Chauvin trial for the murder of George Floyd in the states, ummm yeah not a good look. Also really hope BB didn’t take those pics in that hotel. Once again another example of how this woman completely misses the mark.

Brooks is out with the new girlfriend. When will JH and BB announce they have been fucking? The 23rd perhaps?

R206 *She'll* announce whenever she forces Ben to allow it so she doesn't come across as the GIANT pathetic loser in this scenario. After all, SHE was fucking someone new first!!! Oh, was it even before the divorce? You'll never know Brooks you bastard!!!!

BTW, my favorite part was when Brooksy said he felt like he could actually be himself with his new lady.

Gee, why can't someone be comfortable and themselves when they're with the VERY appropriately named HoughMonster?!? Shame..

Yeah so, all of these have been tagged on his IG pretty much all day?!?

Ho's latest post since the Chauvin verdict is yet another "look at the rich people goodies I get!"

Seriously guys! You HAVE TO check out this spa that probably costs thousands of dollars per treatment that I so HIGHLY recommend. You can't live without it! Look at me in this robe all happy and refreshed! Suffering is a choice guys!

What do we expect from Julianne "Blackface" Hough? I'm watching my city try to heal, but are they really trying hard enough? They need to kynergize their pent up sorrows away. Clear their spinal blockage so their chakras can....oh fuck I can't even joke.

Also, not one word from either of them on Daunte Wright or any of the recent other tragic losses of life due to the police. I guess they used up their BLM quota. Ben has a show to promote! 3 more days..... 2 more days....

I can't believe he didn't even post a story about the Chauvin verdict...the most low-effort thing one can do on IG. Maybe he hasn't seen one that he wants to repost yet. Heaven forbid he create his own content ever.

Oh, and JH's stalker is back and posted a photo of a Proper hotel room key. You in danger gurl?

R211 BB is incapable of original thought so of course he waiting for someone wiser and more accomplished to steal from.

How convenient that the stalker is back right after brooks publicly announces his new relationship. That’s why they both haven’t posted about BLM because JH is in victim, crisis mode (her usual manipulation).

Of course BB has to save her. She now has to make sure after a year of manipulation that her new man is secure in her clutches. I truly hope she isn’t in danger. She also has money for security. I don’t believe anything from her is true or genuine. I think she is a liar, just like BB. Can’t wait for that next pap walk that will ruin BBs career. Oh wait he still can be the 40 year old in seventeen magazine and pander to the teenagers. So sad.

Now he hit 1 million on Instagram so hope buying those followers pays off for you.

[quote]On wanting to be in the know with books: “I don't want to miss out on the zeitgeist. I remember not wanting to be the person who hadn't read The Hunger Games, who hadn't read The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, who hadn't read, you know, whatever the thing was.”

Well for anyone who wondered if Ben had the type of personality that always does something just because other people are doing it. . . this may be a good clue. How to do nothing but FOMO your way through life, by Ben Barnes.

And I cannot believe he didn't post anything about chauvin either. He's *always* pimping BLM like the good little woke bro that he is, but not this time?!? Chike did. Even Nina did three stories I think. But nothing from him. Actually shocked.

R214 shocked as well.

JH just posted her usual bullshit so I think they are together. Planning how he can celebrate his 1 million, trying to figure out how to tell the world they are in love, gotta get back at brooks for that leak that he is happy. They are the only ones that matter. Who cares about anyone else or anything outside themselves because suffering is a choice. Wouldn’t it be great if they announce their relationship and BB follower count drops, since that is the most important thing, he is on the master grifting road now.

JH will be fine. Because pain is something she can do something with, and suffering is a choice. She chooses not to suffer.

Well, what do we think of the POEM?

BB disingenuously implying that he doesn't know anything about social media when the bitch spends half the day checking his tags and trolling Tumblr looking for new parts. We see you, Barnes.

R218 Can't watch it yet, but does it go something like this??

*ahem* "Well golly gee willicker pickles I don't know how this whole social media stuff works, and that's why I'm never on here with you. But gosh! You guys are certainly on here for me anyway! Thanks a million for always letting me off the hook with everything I do *🖤* Won't see you soon!!!

You're fucking psychic, R219. Seriously, open a booth at the county fair.

For as much BB claims he doesn’t use social media, he reads all the articles about himself referenced in that live he did. I also think he reads these. This is far more entertaining than the twitter fangirls. Wonder if he’ll be at the beach clean up this weekend with JH? If S&B becomes the new game of thrones I will be shocked. Come next week we will shall see.

It's not going to be the next Game Of Thrones but it sounds like it's reviewing fairly well, so I think it could be more akin to Witcher popularity. There was one review that was not so glowing and called it cliche, as well as said that non book readers wouldn't care for it. Everybody has been kind to Benny Boy so far though, from the ones I've read.

R217 Well I finally watched it. And my only reply is I don't own a bike. So I guess I won't be going fucking anywhere.

Gotta say though, arrogance truly hasn't been kind to him. Welcome to Ben with no filter.

Ya know.. slept on it.. thought on it some more.. and I realized, maybe I'm not shocked he didn't post anything about chauvin.

If you think about what happened in that case, a man was (admitted understatement of the year) doing something inappropriate. A crowd of people gathered and started telling him as much. And the behavior continued. So the crowd grew louder, and more fervent, as they yelled, and screamed, and pleaded with the man to STOP his "bad behavior" because it was *obviously* hurting someone. And they had cameras, they had the proof.

And yet, the man just stayed there. Arrogant. Dismissive. Uncaring of his responsibility to another. *Certain* that he had every right to do what he was doing, because people like him do not EVER face consequences. Society's system is purpose built to ensure that.

The chauvin trial forced that man to face public ACCOUNTABILITY. And when presented with all the evidence, objective people found him GUILTY.

We've come to learn, Ben does **NOT** like accountability for *himself*. So it would have been highly hypocritical for him to have said anything positive about chauvin's guilty verdict.

But then again, we've also learned that Ben has absolutely NO problem with being a hypocrite.

He did end up posting something resembling a comment on the verdict. A quote about how laws can lead to change by MLK Jr.

R225 Oh I must’ve missed that.

In other news, he actually replied to this tweet from ‘Ben Barnes lovebot’ yesterday, after liking it first time round.

I’m betting he likes the look of the profile pic.

Note to Ben “I know nothing about social media” Barnes ... not all profile pics are real, y’know?

Maybe he’ll be making a return to Raya soon?

Alright, help me out here lads, I fear I may be confused. . . .

Who wears a plunging push-up sports bra to exercise in? Why would it ever even enter your mind to do that? What could POSSIBLY be the point?!? And if the exercise in question is of any quality. . . how exactly did she not fall out of that ridiculous monstrosity?!?!?!?

Does JH kind of sound sick in that story and then on that live BB also had a raspy voice. He was drinking tea I’m assuming. Why would they both be sick at the same time? God can they just reveal it already. Brooks revealed his shit and no one cares about him, like really no one. His stories where his personality shows, like there is not a lot there. R227 she has to be sexy while she sells you shit. Looks like Kinrgy might be a sinking ship, she seems to really be pushing it lately. Another failed thing for JH, onto the next grift.

Well, teenage girls are a fickle lot and if they jumped ship before the show premiered, Benny would have been in a world of hurt. If they're still together, (tho our darling Sleuth thinks they're not), they may reveal in the next few weeks if ever. The ho can't possibly be as accepting as the toddlers he's dated in the past with his "shove her in the bushes if anyone even remotely looks like they recognize me!" policy. If the show is a hit, she's gonna want to hitch her wagon to that success. But they definitely won't come out before that all important cut-off for streamers to judge the success of a show. The teenagers who call him Daddy won't be down with him having a gf, cuts into their fantasies.

R228 He could be hoarse from practicing reciting his 'poem' before the recording.

Regardless, I see no compelling evidence that they've broken up. Her spending a few days alone getting free luxe spa and hotel treatments is meaningless. It's healthy for couples to have apart time (yes, it's weird to use "healthy" when referring to BB and JH) and if they've been together for about a year they should be well beyond the "must be in your physical presence every waking moment" stage. After all, they're not teenagers. *cough* I'll assume they're together until I see her on a pap walk with a new sucker or we get word that Ben is back on the ho stroll in the dating app.

[quote]"A shadow needs light to be a shadow,” the Chronicles of Narnia actor told Us, noting that sometimes, he’d add in his own personality in order to make Kirigan appear sweeter — which, in turn, only made his betrayal even worse. "There’s a moment where he reveals he’s not all that he seems and that he’s probably been manipulating her. And I was like, ‘Right, so the moment before that needs to be as sweet as I can find.’ And there’s a sort of moment where she kisses him and then he leaves the screen. Then, he runs back in and gives her another kiss — which was just something I sort of thought of in the moment,” Barnes shared with Us. “I was like, ‘That’s endearing, that’s real, and that’s from me.’ That’s not in the books. I can sort of balance out the moment, which I think keeps the mystery. And it also keeps you feeling, like, yeah, I don’t support anything he’s doing and he’s completely uncontrollable, but he could be redeemed? Maybe?”

Juuuuussstt interesting.. Gotta make sure you play up how sweet and loving he is before you reveal it was all a lie and you've actually been manipulating everyone the whole time. That came from Ben. Cause that makes the betrayal hurt that much more. That was Ben's idea.

Cause after all, he doesn't say, "Yes, I am your villain," he says, "Fine, make me your villain." Cause he believes he's done nothing wrong. Isn't that how it goes Ben?

But yeah girls, keep thinking there's no way Ben could be an asshole. Cause he's SO kind and sweet, he couldn't *possibly* know *anything* about being bad.. He's safe, no danger there..

But if pressed on that, Ben would say, "Naturally I thought of that because that sort of manipulation is the exact opposite of what -I- would do in real life, of course. It's so fun playing at being naughty! " *simper*

Just going to leave this here. . .

(skip to 5:45 for the juicy bit)

I feel so much secondhand embarrassment for him.

Did no one go to the Kinrgy thing this morning? Like are all the stories and selfies of the beach clean up and look what a great person I am, save the planet, on a secret part of the Internet I can’t see?

Just confused. Was ready to look out for BB in the background trying to hide because he is now all super famous. There are stories saying go to the event and then nothing about the event. The whole point of the event is to promote your company yes? The first person to person thing in a year.

Also S&B thoughts? Watched the first episode and it looks great, but still felt like children pretending to be powerful and interesting adults when it is clear they are children. Haven’t even got to BB and honestly was a bit bored so not sure if I’ll meander back to it.

R235 There are some videos on the kinrgy IG (or there were earlier?? are they still there???) The sleuth pointed out that Ben was awake super early (for him) this morning. And I think the beach thing started at 8/8:30, didn't it? Hmmmmm I wonder..

I don't know if they livestreamed the beach cleanup. Only videos up are the Ho leading a session and someone else guiding us through beach meditation. Oy.

R235 I said I wasn't watching it and I meant it. I won't even give Netflix the satisfaction of pirating it.

R236 Well actually, I just checked a couple minutes ago and now they're not there anymore. Huh??? Why'd they take them down?!?

I found this event planner (and likely DLer...Hello Troy!) who attended the beach clean up and posted video to his stories. If someone wants to analyze it like the Zapruder film looking for BB, have at it. I don't think that Ben would go to a public event where -horrors!- someone might recognize him. The Ho could have still woken him up early, though.

From the stories on Kinrgy all the dudes look the same. BB is pretty generic looking so like idk, I don’t think he was there. He could have put on a mask and hat and baggy clothes, would anyone recognize him? Then again all of twenty people showed up for that so. Huge success, no one cares about your weird cult JH.

With S&B being #1 on Netflix right now to show up to her public event would be saying yes we are together, yes we be fucking, yes I support all the crazy shit JH talks about Las Not saying they won’t come out at a later date. Idk he could have been there for the clean up. Looking at these stories man she is so basic without those filters. Her legs are big, dang girl. We’ll see. If anyone spots him would love to see it.

I mean, she's a dancer. I never really feel the need to comment on her looks, unless it's something interesting like possible work done or that weird rash around her face that could have maybe meant she was pregnant or something. Also, I think it's odd when you guys make fun of her older looks but then slam Ben for going after young women. I HATE her for who she is, not her looks. I don't care one way or another how she looks because she's super ugly and vapid on the inside. I'd still rather Ben date a woman with a few wrinkles and crinkles here and there than a 22 year old. I'd just prefer she not be a monster.

[quote]The Ho could have still woken him up early, though.

R239 Vomit. . . oh God I feel sick now. . . why would you (albeit reasonably) do that to us Syl?!?!?!?

Quelle horreur!

It bugs me that Ben keeps pointing out that everybody has the capacity for evil. Actually not really. Can people have a bad day? Sure. Are humans ever perfectly kind? No. But it's very very weird to say that we all have that dark inside of us. Sounds like projection. When he first would mention it, at least when I first saw it, around Westworld and that character, he made it sound a bit more nuanced and interesting. Like yeah, it's good to bring out the layers and shades of a person. But evil and darkness? Eesh

Also, Ben. If you are reading this. PLEASE STOP WHISPER ACTING!!! I wish he'd just use his own damn voice. Even in Golddigger when he was supposed to sound like himself, he did it. I miss old Ben. I miss the way he used to act. It was never the best, but I was genuinely impressed with the way he changed with every role. I saw him in two things before I actually noticed him in Westworld, Stardust and Big Wedding, and didn't realize it. Both times in hindsight I remembered thinking he was cute in the moment. But he actually changed and molded himself within the role. When the role fit him well, he would be pretty darn fun to watch! Now, it's just all this same voice, same whisper over dramatic intense crap that's really cringey (AND I HATE THE WORD CRINGE, I only use it when I really mean it because it's so overused). In Westworld he did it, but firstly, it was new at the time. Secondly, he only did it at certain moments and the rest of the time he was so charming and playful and the only one on the show having any fun, which is the main reason I finally loved him enough to look him up. I think he did change his personality, and it goes right along with the boring and shitty acting.

Now that I think about it, Westworld really was a turning point in this new part of his career. All TV, and for the most part, finally some critical success he's always lacked. Even when he's done something good in the past, and gotten decent reviews like Jackie and Ryan, it went basically unseen. So he doubled down on that style of character, just without the fun part, and it's been the same ever since.

When I looked him up after seeing Westworld I remember thinking... "wow he's British and mild mannered!" and "wow, he was in those other movies I saw?" He was so different!" and then I started watching other things. First were Easy Virtue and Jackie and Ryan and I just fell for this actor who would look so different in every role, but still look good, and be so different in every role, and be fairly natural in them, and also was very taken by his ability to sing. This total asshole guy in Westworld, who was charming and seemingly kind and a bit dorky and could sing!!! (I didn't know at the time that left to his own devices he really can't sing, he just has a nice singing voice that can be molded into a good performance when forced) It was quite enchanting. It's the things that made him different that I liked the most. Those strange dark eyes, slightly crooked teeth, unease with social media, his braying nerdy laugh, and the fact that he looked like this incredibly hot douche but didn't seem to act like one. As I've said before, I'm not as upset with his lying and hypocritical behavior, because I have other crushes I care far more about when it comes to morals and intelligence. At the end of the day, he was mostly for pleasure. It's the fact that he's become more and more like everyone else, and so much less interesting and unique. Now he's just another pretty face.

R241 I agree. If she wasn't such a walking horror show, she's age appropriate and not a stick figure.

R243 Last thread I gathered a set of gifs that showcased Ben's new one-note acting tic. Were you around for that? Fun times.

I agree Westworld was a turning point. At the time I was convinced that it was going to be a positive turning point. HBO! Anthony Hopkins! Prestige! Finally, the quality parts will start rolling in! What's the opposite of a psychic? Because that's me.

R242 I don’t think he’d go to the Ho’s beach thing. Consider this....

He’d have had to completely bury himself in the sand to avoid another dog sled incident. Too many other people around to control with the ‘No Photos!’ shit. He was in a face mask and bulky cold weather clothing in Montana and he still got outed.

Ben Barnes - picking up trash off a beach? Nah.

And he’s had all that tiring and tedious S&B promo recently - poor lambkins - so her timing for that Kinrgy shitshow wasn't great. The day after S&B launch? Maybe she just didn’t want him grabbing all the limelight. Some astrologers seem to think that’s a problem for Cancer/Leo relationships, they both like to be in the spotlight. Oops.

Personally I think him and Rob sat down after he opened his box of Netflix goodies and got trashed for the rest of the night. Reckon that’s why he was up early, looking for painkillers for his hungover little head, lmao.

R246 Just to add... got trashed but not on the Netflix goodies!

I think you guys are probably correct about the beach pick up. Though I'm no fan of The Ho, if they ARE together, my god...what a crap boyfriend Ben is. "No, sorry darling. Simply can't ever support even the simplest of your endeavours because MY needs always come first."

I found this quote in another DL celeb thread and it made me spit out my coffee. Enjoy: "Show business is like high school for vapid people with stunted mental growth."

R248 And especially if she's going through as tough and stressful a time as she's been intimating these past couple months. Not an ounce of support aside from liking all her sexy Glam shot posts lately. They sure as fuck had better not be together on that point alone.

The sleuth noticed Ben was up early again today, but at least it doesn't appear he and The Ho were on IG at the same time. So there's that?!?

But speaking of The Ho's posts. . . who needs a ***REALLY*** good laugh!!!

R249 I’m still laughing at that. It’s fucking hilarious.

If Ben hasn’t already had his Chuck moment with the Ho (possibly after that awards ceremony?) then hopefully this might trigger something for him.

And why oh why are people getting her involved in projects like audiobooks? Imagine having to listen to her spoiled little ‘sexy me’ girlie voice for hours on end.

Maybe she’s also using Ben for his connections to audiobooks and Netflix (ND joint project, the saints protect us).

Does anyone have screenshots of BB’s IG account header from earlier this year by any chance?

I was checking his follower count (now 1.1m so that’s +100K since Thursday, no doubt more teens thanks to S&B plus his paid-for 1-2K a day) when I noticed his post count was 579.

I could swear that was higher, maybe not by much but he’s added quite a few recently as we know.

Yes, I’m bored and nosy. Has he deleted some??!! If so, what and why and has he done this before?

R251 Ask and ye shall receive (though I don't know if it'll help).. Just this morning BBF posted this interview where 20 seconds in there's a screenshot of Ben's IG as requested. It was likely taken on or abouts March 19th given the outfit he's wearing in the video.

If you needed something earlier than that, fraid I can't help you. But yes, he does delete things from time to time. Who can say with certainty why though.

R252 Thanks for that! The numbers actually match as he’s only posted 4 times since end March so I think he’s been deleting earlier than that. Never mind, I was just trying to work out whether it was vanity (decided he didn’t like the pic) or something else which made him delete some, lmao.

Do the necklaces mean anything? He has that new one he presented a week or so ago and then JH in her new story showing her outfit with that long necklace? You know they be doing stupid shit like wear necklaces that mean something, but not ever comment on the fact we are together. Just wondering.

Why on earth didn't they have him shave? He looks so much younger without the beard. He looks his 40 with it.

R254 He’s worn 3 necklaces that I know of, during the time I’ve followed him....

Signet ring on a black leather strap, I believe it was from his mother or possibly a family heirloom. This was the only one he wore for several years, from before the first Caspian movie if I remember correctly. The ring was usually hidden, but you can see the black strap in quite a lot of tv interviews and photo shoots. He had a couple of different straps for it, one thicker than the other.

The small - coin? medallion? - on a silver chain which he was wearing in several S&B press interviews recently. This seemed to make its’ first appearance in March 2020, in one of his song cover videos. The chain is visible on his neck but the pendant is under his t-shirt. The next time it appears is in April, on the duet with the runner from Punisher 2, this time you can see the whole necklace and the chain’s the same as in the previous video (taken from the same angle). In August 2020, again on a singing video, he’s wearing the same pendant but on a thin black string. Now it’s back on a chain.

The Eclipse necklace (circle on a chain), made its’ appearance during S&B filming - pic of him & Luca Pasqualino looking down at the camera, posted by LP in March 2020 - and in a singing video in Oct 2020, then in various other S&B-related events. It’s the only one he’s ever directly referred to, as ‘my Eclipse necklace’ on a video promo for the audiobook which was due out in December.

The first and third necklaces are pretty easy to assign meanings to (and we know BB likes his hidden meanings) but I have no idea about the second one, which he’s back to wearing again. I can’t even tell what the pendant is!

So your guess is as good as mine on that one.

So I know the answer to the shaving/beard thing. In the 7th episode he plays a flashback of the character (not in the books) where he is clean shaven for it. So they wanted that difference between the current General and the former Darkling. By the way, he strangely didn't look particularly young even without the beard in the shots I saw. Maybe the makeup or whatever added to the creases in his forehead and eyes or something.

Thanks for the tip-off R257. I'll look for screencaps from that episode.

R258 Careful what you wish for there Syl. The Mullet was "strong" with that one, so. . . brace yourself.

Yikes.

R259 Yikes indeed! I get that they were trying to differentiate between his Black Heretic persona and his current one, but oh lordy- who came up with that hairstyle!!!??? Even BB couldn’t carry it off. He’s wearing it in that ‘all these people made this happen’ post. Not a good look.

Also, in ep 8 when they’re in the Fold and summoning the sun - that harsh lighting is *not* kind to him compared to his twenty-something costars.

You mean to tell me that at long last, we had an opportunity to see BB without That Goddamned Beard, but they ruined it with a tragic hairstyle??

I may have to go commit violence at Netflix HQ.

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R262 Exactly what I thought about the timing, and said earlier I wondered if she was trying to steal his limelight!!!

How awkward did BB look during the cast mates or best mates video? The differences in age are apparent!

R264 At least the ending of that one did genuinely make me chuckle. His reaction to their prank was pretty priceless!

BTW, admittedly I'm an idiot and should have marked/posted the video at the time. . . but has anyone here who's been watching the interviews remember the one (from the weekend???) where the whole rest of the cast marked Ben as most likely to "disappear" or have "no one know where he is" and give the example that he always leaves parties really early.

That certainly. . . piqued my interest. . . when I saw that part. He just infamously disappears/leaves a lot? The Hell?? Where/Why does he go?

It could be because he was hanging out with them. He probably likes the socialization but doesn't want to hang out with "kids" all night. But there could still be a more intriguing answer!

Back the good old days, I'd say he was slipping away to pick up tricks. But now I know that he has to get home early to check his tags.

R265 Oh I must’ve missed that one, I’ll need to delve back into the press swamp and dig it out!

R267 Spot on, Sylvia

R265 I found 2 ‘Most Likely To’ videos but neither of them had that answer on it... don’t suppose you can remember if the one you saw was billed as that or whether it was part of another interview? Dying to see it now, hahaha

I enjoyed it when his castmates voted him 'Most Likely to spend all day interpreting a text message.' And he looked crestfallen when they didn't pick him for 'Most Likely to star on Broadway.' Heh

R265 R269 Found it, it’s the Seventeen ‘Superlatives’ one.

Most likely to have an escape plan - Ben & Freddy, and also late to everything - Ben, geography terrible.

Funny how BB posts about the S&B billboard all the whole JH has a billboard for her wine company out right now. Why do I feel like they are competing? Friendship end badly? Since they were never dating of course.

R272 One of the Sleuth’s friends on IG reckoned he posted that because on JJ’s post about the Ho in Mexico, someone commented about more covid-travelling for the Ho and @‘d BB in it. So ‘round the corner from my house’ is to prove he’s not in Mehiiiico perchance.

Learned his Covid lesson, I’m really hoping.

Our govt are recommending no travel to the whole of Mexico due to the Covid situation there.

Anyone seen the tattooed guy who’s with her before? There seem s to be another girl there too.

R267 R271 Thanks for finding it! And honestly my first immediate thought upon hearing of Ben's "escapes" was, well they also all immediately voted him biggest flirt.

What's the over under on whether those two attributes are linked???? Though if his geography is that bad maybe he'd be really bad at finding the nearest hotel room. Would the nearest closet do???

What innuendo?

Ok people. We're going to pull up Google maps, divide the Hollywood Hills up into sections, and we'll each volunteer to take a section and Streetview all of it until we find the intersection from Ben's post. Who's with me?

R273 she went to Mexico! I’m not on Instagram.

She is so stupid! Look at India right now, that can be Mexico very soon. They have a corrupt government and most of the population is poor. Like wtf?! Omg Ben would get so much shit if he went. Keep us updated would love to know who those people are.

I’m seeing all the pap pictures now. She really can’t just do anything privately? Like no one would know or care if she went on this trip if she didn’t call the paps. She is not that famous and from the comments no one likes her. In the little over a year of Covid how many trips has she been on? Like 10. Seems like every month she is somewhere new.

Also those pics are not flattering. I get it the whole leggings in the ocean didn’t go over well, but these are not amazing. She just needs to stop.

R278 Somebody commented ’And to think she could afford to buy tits’ ...lmao. For some reason, her in that bikini makes me think of a black widow spider!

“Lying is something makes me feel sick in general” a quote from a current interview with BB. Funny because he lied when he tried to make it seem like he was in LA when really he was in Montana. He has lied, but now all the sudden he is so good and can hardly stomach the manipulated flower move on the character he played. He is trying so hard to prove that he is this good guy, why? Who is he trying to convince? The fangirls worship him no matter what he does and the rest left a long time ago.

R280 what interview? I feel inspired to troll.

R280 Well come on now all, let's continue the thought! In nearly every interview he talks about how he needed to humanize Kirigan so the character wasn't a villain. How did he do this? By "bringing parts of himself in and making sure to make Kirigan sweet." He knows how that plays with the audience's emotions, but really guys! Really he's sweet in real life, can't you see!!

Also, how many times does he talk about how lonely Kirigan is? How many lost loves he's had. How many times he's tried *everything* and yet always utterly failed to get what he wanted/needed. How he's so powerful but then also so isolated at the top of society. And so, he decides to abuse his power. He turns to manipulation. He turns to lying. He feels that's his only play left and he's going to finally win.

The problem Ben says, is in this day and age, he can't condone Kirigan's actions/choices, and the audience shouldn't forgive him. But Ben *MADE* *SURE* the audience questioned whether Kirigan could be redeemed. That's why he made him human, not a villain.

Now, do all those quotes properly apply to the character in the show? Yes absolutely. But is there *anyone* else, in *any* way, that just *maybe* those quotes might apply to as well? Might there be *any* other reason Ben seems to understand this character So. Damned. Well. I mean, this is the most/deepest explanation Ben's given of a character. . . ever??? No, Ben will never share anything about his personal self and life. But in this instance, he will share the hell out of his problematic character's life. Makes me honestly wonder if there's something between the lines here.

(btw.. WHY does he keep qualifying every time by saying "IN THIS DAY AND AGE Kirigan's actions aren't condonable? Because what that's actually saying is it's only now that abuses of power are unacceptable. Meaning it was okay and permissible back in the day. Oh no no no dear Ben. Abuse is, AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN, unequivocally ***WRONG***. The only difference 'in this day and age,' is the rich and powerful are finally starting to face public ACCOUNTABILITY when they're wrong and abuse their power. The little people finally have the collective power to let abusers know how wrong we think they are. To do so, is to hope to change behaviors, so abuse is left behind to the proverbial dust bin of history. Where it belongs.)

R281 Linked below.

R280 That is absolutely infuriating. Ben obviously thinks that "Never EVER telling the truth" is different from outright lying, so in his mind he's pure as the driven snow. Bullshit. The only thing this man doesn't lie about constantly is how much he loves seeing his face on billboards.

So BB posts a story about astrology, of course his face is in it because he can’t not post something that isn’t about him, then JH post a story about astrology where bella and Kendall are flipping of the paps. I feel like she is trolling BB. Also posted her billboard.

Like dang girl making it so obvious. If you are gonna be shady, make it subtle. She already got the bikini pics in Mexico, she posted a black dress while in Mexico, which is the color of the character BB defends so much. BB isn’t with her, even though brooks moved on, she is doing the most.

If they broke up, I hope she trolls the shit out of him no-holds-barred. It might even make me a fan.

My theory is that -if- they broke up, it's because that Ben was perfectly happy to have her as a 'quarantine girlfriend.' Other than the MT trip, all of that enforced seclusion is Ben's ideal way to conduct a relationship. Is any wonder that we're seeing them apart right as things are opening up back to normal? He tried the ice cream pap walk, but as soon as reality sunk in that they'd have to come out from under their rock even further, he got cold feet. Like he always does. It's not because he suddenly realized what a garbage person SHE is...he's known her for eight years.

How much of a dick does one have to be to make me want to take sides with JH?? He should try making his gfs wear burkas, maybe that'd suit his needs.

Yep and in that flipping off post, it's all about how Cancer girls appear all cute and innocent (full of sunshine??) but will go crazy when wronged. It's a clear message to someone.

Or maybe she's jealous of all the gushing he does over his co-star. Calling her "literal human sunshine" and whatnot.

I could never like Jules Ho though. "Suffering is a choice" was the final straw. Also, her parents are trash. There, I said it. Because I remember after the blackface incident she said she just didn't know. If that's true, and she really got to that age not knowing that blackface is wrong, then her life growing up was fucked. And her parents definitely look like the type of people who had plantation parties or some shit.

Maybe we can count on Nina to spill some tea. She seems like she'd cut a bitch.

R286 oh her parents are trash. I’ve heard some rumors that they were in a cult when they were younger. Then shipped her and Derek to London to dance when they were kids. Can’t imagine any real education was happening, hence the black face I’m not educated I was just chasing stardom since I was a child. Also JH talked about how she had some inappropriate things happen with an older male teacher that were traumatic. So like the whole family clearly has many issues and I don’t know if they have really dealt with those or if they just cover them up with shiny sparkles. Also who knows, we will never know the truth and I don’t care honestly. They way they act in public is enough to signify the greater pain lurking under the surface. JH does like to put all her personal business in the public sphere. The whole brooks talking about his sex life thing comes to mind.

If she is sending a message through Instagram stories that seems like such a high school way to deal with your problems. You have the sexy beach photos with nothing left to the imagination on page six, let that be enough. Don’t add to it. Mature woman don’t deal with their problems this way. The fact that BB was so smitten he was doing covers of songs for her just blows my mind. This is what you wanted and were pinning for and ultimately caused so much shit for you? This?

R287 Syl Nina seems like she would throw down! Heard some many stories about her partying days, that is why her and Shaun work so well. They are both have skeletons.

R283 R285 Yes he has known her for eight years. And she leans on him during her troubled times. Either he's a completely blind fucking *idiot*, or he knows exactly how manipulative she is.

So what if. . . he has absolutely no problem with her manipulations (like he said). After all, she was manipulating other people. It wasn't Ben, so why would he care?

But then. . . what if she outright LIED to him. Well that's something he just can't countenance. That crosses*his* personal line and will not be tolerated.

And now he's bitching about it in interviews so the world knows he's the real victim. Ever the purest of pitiable angels.

R289 I kinda keep getting the feeling he’s had his ‘Chuck’ moment. Yeah, maybe when she turned her manipulative shit onto him. Cos as I said a couple of threads ago, he had a ring-side seat for all the Brooks stuff.

But then, he would’ve been hearing the Ho’s side of things the whole time. “Bad Brooksy, nasty Brooksy” etc etc etc. And fell for it.

R289 R290 Forgot to say, yes he’s known her for a while but how well did he really know her? Did anyone get the impression they hung out together a lot before last April? I certainly didn’t.

[quote] Ever the purest of pitiable angels.

I love you.

Oh, I forgot to ask those of you who've watched any of S&B....

How much did the Darkling remind you of Russell Crowe in 'Gladiator'??

I haven't watched it. I gave it a thumbs down so Netflix doesn't shove it in my face.

R291 No, but keep in mind that Ben never shares his private life. He shows off the special things he gets to do and posts about those. But all the "private life" photos with friends or otherwise have come from those friends, never him. So if The HoughMonster herself didn't let us know, we never would.

R292 R293 Well BLUSH!!! But no, other than the word general, there's no comparisons to be made. Kirigan ostensibly has all the power, he's not a slave inspiring a revolution. His king wants him there leading the army, though he barely interacts with his people. Kirigan doesn't protect the people he loves and/or sacrifice himself in order to kill the bad guy and free his people. Kirigan *is* the bad guy and sacrifices everyone else to gain more power and free himself.

Maybe you could make a comparison to the younger version when he first created the fold? Then he was nothing more than a rebel trying to save his people from death. He didn't actually succeed per se, and used black magic, not noble inspiration, to save himself and his mother. And that was centuries before he became General Kirigan. But that's really as close as I can come.

R295 Oh believe me I know how much BB tries to hide his private life, but consider for a moment that Hough and Laich were together for 7 years in total until they split last year.

I don’t where the confirmation for this came from but allegedly BB & the Ho have been pals for 8 years now. So for the vast majority of that time, she was with Brooks. Do you see BB hanging out with them a lot? Mmmmm, not really. We’ve already seen that he doesn’t gel too well with sporty jock types eg SW.

I think BB did his usual fangirling when he met the Ho and her bro, ‘ooh they’re more famous than me’ - and bumped into them occasionally at events and the odd backyard bbq. *Shrugs* but as usual who knows with him.

He’s taken a very tiny step back towards redemption in my opinion by not going to Mexico (or Hawaii) with her. I pray he’s learned his lesson about Covid-travelling after Montanagate. I know some/a lot of you don’t agree but I think he got such a damn shock after getting outted on that and the backlash in posts and comments about it, that I don’t think he’ll risk that or a pap walk ever again.

Certainly not until/if Covid ever comes off the table - and if they’re still together - whenever that might be.

As far as I’m concerned, she’s completely irredeemable.

And can’t believe she called Backgrid again for the Mexico thing, so freaking predictable *rolls eyes* Maybe she was hoping to rope in BB for the trip so they could do a beach walk but he wouldn’t play ball this time.

He’s still busy posting S&B stuff after all.

Are the paps following her for the entire time she is in Mexico? I don’t need to see every single vacation look from JH. How funny if she planned this to be a coming out, romantic vaca in Mexico right after his show premieres and BB was like ummm no. He would score points with me if that is the case. Hope brooks is super jealous of you JH, oh wait no he is fucking his new girlfriend not thinking of you, so looks like no one is jealous.

I watched Shadow and Bone because all the reviews were saying how great it was...

...it wasn't. The story was terrible, even for a YA fantasy adaptation and the acting was even worse. It was so bad compared to the reviews that it's actually damaged the credibility of several of the reviewers who I follow.

R296 Please don't misunderstand, I don't actually necessarily disagree with you about their previous relationship. I was just attempting to point out that if we had to rely on public proof that Ben actually had *any* friends that he ever actually spent *any* time with (outside of public events). . . well I think I could count those friends on one hand. And what's more likely? That Ben doesn't have any friends to hang out with? Or he does have friends and hangs all the time, but we the public just never get to see the evidence that he has a life AT ALL. In short, I wouldn't rely on/believe one way or the other how "close" or not he is with friends.

And the eight year confirmation came from Ben himself during the ice cream date. Oh wait I'm sorry, the confirmation came from the second inside source, who confirmed they weren't dating (just have been friends for eight years). In contrast to the first inside source (whoever could that be?!?!?), who commented how close and flirty they were on their "walk" as they shared their ice cream all smiles during a deadly, highly communicable pandemic. Cause they weren't dating, so that was a safe thing to do. Stupidest. Fucking. People. Alive.

Though I do (hopefully respectfully) disagree about your redemption thoughts because I don't see refusing to be papped with her after that destroyed him the first time as learning his lesson about covid, lying, hypocrisy and abusing privilege. That's merely (possibly??) learning his lesson about trusting her. Because that's all we know, that he won't be seen in public with her again (agree with you there!!!). We don't know at all that he stopped being stupid about covid. We don't know at all what he's been doing (or not doing!) in private these past couple months. Other than going to that maskless awards show that The Ho performed in of course. The Sleuth tracked down the proof he SECRETLY went (again!!!). Lessons learned??? Should we then take him at his word because he said that billboard was around the corner from his house? And should we definitely trust that he took the photo THAT DAY cause he said so? I mean it's not like he's EVER lied or tried to throw everyone off the scent of what he was secretly doing before, right? Sure, that billboard photo is definitive proof he was home that day. There's no other possible explanation to post it.

Always remember.. Fool me once. . . .

R299 I hear you! All valid points. I am just hoping that his mommy has been drip-feeding some subtle advice (cos direct ‘drop her’ wouldn’t work! - to him about this relationship he has with her - whatever the hell it might be, and that he actually took on board that Covid travelling is wrong, hypocritical and selfish. But time will no doubt tell!

[quote] We’ve already seen that he doesn’t gel too well with sporty jock types eg SW.

That reminded me of Ben's brief "friendship" with the X-Games host guy Brandon Graham (who of course knows SW.) WTF was that about? How does he meet these people?

And why did BB get so chummy with them that he went on a long trip to Austin TX with the dude and his wife? Shit like this is what lead to the "Ben likes to be a bisexual third wheel with his coupled friends" theories. Look at this creepy fucker.

I hate that we can’t trust him and in the back of my head I’m thinking well maybe he is in Mexico with her and just not going to the beach where the paps are. Always that doubt now with him. Granted he doesn’t have to share his personal life, but since he is so shady about everything it’s like well what can I believe? At least the fake people on socials you know they are fake. The fact that he secretly went to that awards show and we know he went totally shows he is fine with supporting JH and being with her as long as no one knows. That event was months after montanagate and all the backlash and he was still with her, still liking her selfies. Until he stops following her and blocks it all is when I’ll believe they are done. Even with all the we are just friends, not dating, blah, blah, it feels false. I want to support him. I want to believe he is not a liar, I want to believe all the stuff he says in those interviews is who he is. Then his actions paint this different picture. Man at least when he was the maybe gay creep he still had credibility.

Come join me in spreading facts on the most recent Just Jared post about the Ho, y'all.

Does anyone else get cult vibes from Kinrgy? Just watched a video from the Mason family cult, I mean they didn’t call themselves a cult, but they were a cult. The girls in the prison interviews used terms like we just lived in our imagination, time didn’t exist, they would also dress up in costumes and play around which is also something Kinrgy has done. Granted there were a lot of drugs, but hey gotta make the same bullshit relevant so is it a surprise she packaged it as healing and transformative? Idk just get that like gut feeling something is not right over there.

We still don’t know for certain what BB’s preferences are though, do we? There are plenty of comments on JJ and other articles about her looking like a boy!

Something I just noticed. Ben's "just out for a run in LA in my mask, nothing to see here!" post was on Jan 5. JH's "sexy shooting range" video was posted on Jan 6. Shaun's video of the Montana shooting range was posted on Jan 8, though he's visible in the background of JH's video.

Some obvious timeline manipulation going on.

So BB lied and was hanging out with people who also lie and cheat and are garbage humans, but remember lying makes BB sick you guys. He could never manipulate or lie. He is a good guy.

Whoo, The Sleuth turned up the original source of the picture that broke the BB fandom. Nice work!

So, as the son of therapists, he's a natural manipulator, yes? I don't think that he believes that keeping secrets and telling lies are the same thing, even if those secrets lead others to believe untruths. This quote sums it up nicely:

'It’s also important for therapists to recognize the difference between a secret and a lie. The two are related but distinct, says Ellen Marks, PhD, an associate psychologist with University Health Services at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, who has conducted research in this area. "While they both may include a level of deception, a secret is an act of omission, while a lie is an act of deception," she notes.'

So, to him, not only are his fans not real people to whom he owes honesty, but he isn't *overtly* lying.

Bottom line, he's a hypocritical, homewrecking scumbag who preached one thing about covid, and then when the chance to get laid came along, his overprivileged ass did the exact opposite.

As far as redemption? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice?

R309 Oh holy shit she is GOOD!!!!!!!!! Such undying respect and admiration Slueth!

R311 She's only a Slueth on Thursdays. Friday through Wednesday she's The Sleuth.

*sigh*

Deuxmoi is doing drop a Keyword. Everybody go drop Barnes!

R310 Well, unfortunately for anyone who has/had an "investment" in anyone, I actually completely agree with that. There are similarities, people can and will be hurt by both, but there legitimately is that distinction in both intent and context. That's why we have two different words, they're technically not the same.

If I may, I'll ask the eldergays (hopefully not you youngsters still, but unfortunately. . . ) here to consider the past and whether/when you chose to come out or not. Is there a difference between just not talking about your sexuality and outright denying you were gay? Both would have been done to protect yourself from a more dangerous worldview. But is there no difference between the two? I believe there is, but that is just my opinion.

OMG every time the Ho sets foot outside the door in Mexico there are paps there! Are they staying in her holiday apartment or something, save her calling them???

And showing her phone to a ‘hunky kite surfer’. What’s she showing him??!!! Kinrgy, wine company, that she didn’t pay for her vacation.... or her unanswered texts to Benjamin?!

R315 or maybe it is all the dance videos she posted on her stories. She must not be having a lot of fun on this vaca because like we get it, you are a dancer and it is whatever no one cares international dancer day. She must really be hurting because to have the paps stalking her and the constant insta posts, like she is trying to get someone’s attention. I really hope she falls in love with someone who isn’t BB in Mexico so we can stop talking about her. She has caused enough trouble and damage as it is.

Also the surfer is Mathew Morrison, she went with them and he is in pics from yesterday with his pregnant wife in the water. These looks she is serving to get back at brooks are not great. She needs a new stylist.

Matthew Morrison*

R316 Couldn’t agree more. I’m so sick of her and I’m angry at Ben Barnes for even being friends with her never mind anything else.

Who posts over 50 stories of themselves when they are on vacation and those stories have nothing to do with your vacation. Did she go to Mexico alone? She seems lonely. No one cares you did a dance ten years ago. I want like drunk Jules with some hot random guy at the hotel bar. Post those stories, show brooks you are livin it up.

Or a hot girl, but like she doesn’t care about a global pandemic so where is the story of her drunkenly eating a taco on the floor of her hotel room?

R317 The Sleuth says they doesn’t understand why they posted the pic of her with the ex costar and captioned it as her flirting. She was flirting with the other guy who wasn’t actually pictured in that one! Incompetent paps! Get your called-in pap walk facts correct, will ya!

R314 Yes, there is a difference in that example, but context is everything. A small-town or rural gay, especially in the past, when coming out could literally mean your death? Understandable. Get away from there and then come out.

But young, urban gays of 2021 who don't come out, I don't have respect for and neither does the DL generally. It's a cowardly act, you're living a lie, you are potentially hurting people in your life by allowing them to believe falsehoods about you. And if you ever DO come out, they'll be doubly hurt because you were keeping shit from them for years.

Ben has no reason to be the way he is. Nothing bad is going to happen if he acknowledges that he has a life and relationships. He won't literally be killed or beaten up. No one is expecting the excruciating details, but a simple, "Yes I am dating/have dated so and so." This is the age of transparency. Ben would have loved to live in the Golden Age of Hollywood with some studio chief inventing a whole fake identity for him.

R322 Oops .... *don’t* not doesn’t

I have no idea what these threads are about anymore, but you all sound very passionate. So, I hope it all works out ❤️

I think that everything he knows about acting he learned from Joey Tribiani. Smell the fart, where he puts his hands when he kisses...I bet he has a hole in his pocket to pull pubes and does long division to look confused, too.

Is he wearing a rug???

R327 On his head? Or on his body? No and maybe. His costumes for this series all look as if they were designed by Etsy goth teenagers run amuck; I hate them.

R325 it’s pretty simply actually if you have been following along. BB lied and travelled during a pandemic putting people at danger, lied about it, he travelled because of JH. She has been using him for a year to make her ex husband jealous. Overall it is disappointment this imagine BB tried so hard to curate is fake. Wish we were still hoping he was gay and talking about that. We have seen behind the curtain. So hate train for JH and disappointed about how someone we thought was good actually is a hypocrite. Yeah passion is never a bad thing, thanks for commenting. Hope you are having fun lurking.

R325 BB is that you?

R330. Nope, just an old Ben Barnes fan, who stopped coming to these threads as Ben’s twink cred faded, and it became clear that he wasn’t coming out...or doing anything romantically, really.

R331 He's been shacking up with Julianne Hough for the past year, most likely. And COVID-traveling. So now everybody hates him and is reeling from the shock that he's straight after all. Now you're all up to speed.

I really still can’t believe his actions this past year. I have been following it all since the first pap walk with JH and Syl exactly as you said, reeling from the shock. Now you have all these new people who are gonna believe the hype and the interviews that he is this great guy. They aren’t gonna know all these things because they are just now introduced to who he is. I want their illusions to be shattered, just like mine was. I want them to be shocked. All of this is and will be buried. He will never own it. Just pretend it never happened and that is so shitty.

R332 That is a devastating way to sum up an end to a decade and a half long devoted fandom. And I don't even care AT ALL (personally) if he's straight or otherwise. I care that I found out he behaved the 180 opposite in private as he espouses to behave publicly.

I was a ***BIG*** fan of his public persona. His desperately secret private life destroyed that. Never "meet" your heroes.

So, did anyone pick up any hints of Anthony Hopkins in the Darkling, or is he being delusional again?

R335 Well technically, he looked to Hannibal's "stillness" to show Kirigan's power. So sure. Any and every time he was standing still, he reminded me of Anthony Hopkins.

Yup.

Love the hate on that new thread. They could have just put their comments here. This thread is still open. Yeah we can vent about our frustrations with your perfect, totally not problematic bestie. Being a liar is not the same as oops made a mistake. He has been lying for years and great job buying the image he is selling you.

What new thread?

This one

Ah. Typical DL assholery: Make a thread about how much you hate some other thread, which only serves to give the original thread which you hate more attention. Act very superior to the posters in the thread that you hate, meanwhile you probably have started 176 different threads about Max Gail or dead 1970s porn stars or some other topic every bit as ridiculous as Ben Barnes.

Max Gail? Jesus.

Anyways, I pulled out my soap box and gave them the deets.

Back to IG trolling.

I’ve seen that line “threads are three people talking” on other threads. So super original. I’m not a woman by the way, clearly men can’t have a fucking opinion. Love the tagged comments for BB on JH posts, glad word is out outside this forum.

Well what an enjoyable quote. And Ben highlighted this article on his Twitter tonight. . .

Huh.

[quote]“I don’t think there’s ever been a problem with people feeling empathy for the Darkling,” Bardugo says with a nod toward the book fans deeply invested in the “Darklina” relations. “Give someone a strong jawline and a serious agenda and suddenly people are deeply invested.” But, she said, Kirigan’s seductive qualities are very much part of the point. “My goal has always been to create a deep gulf between the things he says and the things he does. That is the challenge that I’m presenting to the reader,” she says. “I made him beautiful and seductive for a reason. The dangerous people in our lives don’t enter with the word evil stamped on their forehead or twirling their mustache, they are often beautiful and wounded. And that doesn’t mean that they can’t still do damage.”

So is this their new plan? The sleuth noticed both Ben and The Ho each waited two days to like the other's IG posts. Are they hoping we won't notice? Or, even with all the time he's been spending on socials promoting S&B, did he only check his feed two days later?

And btw, should we read into his story today? He shouldn't be held accountable for his illogical (read: utterly and indefensibly shitty) decisions. After all, his brain is nothing more than meat and electricity, so be kind! None of us owe any sense of responsibility to each other, we never have to behave like intelligent adults, we should just be able to PLAY all day every day cause we're just animals full of meat. And we **WANT** things mommy!!!!

Sounds about right for him actually. Ever the child, even at 40 years old.

Follow up question. . . is this his way of showing he's proud he can sing like a girl? Or is it his way of letting us all know he's gone off the fucking deep end? Except he's so full of his own hype he believes he'll never have to own up and come crashing down to the ground.

It's so enjoyable reading between the lines sometimes..

R344 Accountability = Unkindness. Truth = Negativity. #BarnesLand

R345 He wants to hog all the showy diva parts of the GaGa song (of which he has all the words memorized) for himself. Are we SURE he's not gay??

R346 Who, in their *RIGHT* mind, is *SURE* about ANYTHING regarding Ben Barnes.

(though kindly remind me not to book a trip to BarnesLand for my next holiday. I wouldn't make it there with those rules.)

Why go to Mexico and then go to Costa Rico? Do the paps not exist in Costa Rico and had to make brooks or ben jealous with all of those bikini pics. We get it JH you are wealthy and don’t care that so many people are dying and will always flaunt your lifestyle. Even in a pandemic, you will take more vacations than one person ever needs to. She is somewhere new every two months. Just don’t try to sell me on the fact that you care about people.

That does seem incredibly redundant. In general I don't understand why celebs take such basic-bitch vacations.

R349 Well if your ONLY goal is to show off how good you look in a bikini to the paparazzi, why would you go anywhere but a famous basic beach?

I mean obvi..

Like, his current mood? Watching us intently with a scowl? Waiting for the next troll? And just when he thought he could relax. Even though he's earned not even a drop of respite.

Silly boy.

So there's that..

Good for him, now he can be typecast forever, Congrats, Ben!

Ha I remember when stranger things was popular and that hot guy was number one in IMDB. Does anyone care what he is doing now? I don’t even know his name. This stuff is such bullshit, means nothing. Syl you are so correct, since he loves fantasy so much, have fun being the old dude in all the fantasy things with the kids.

And now here's 36 year old Peter O'Toole. But since he never had a million IG followers or IMDB clicks, he sucks, obviously.

[quote] have fun being the old dude in all the fantasy things with the kids

Yup, BB is going to be taking the Dumbledore, Gandalf, Magneto, etc route but skipping the part where you have a multi-decade-long incredibly distinguished career as a legitimate actor behind you first. Gravitas? That doesn't pull the girls!

I'll admit, it's kind of exciting to see him get a burst of recognition, just because now there will be more eyes on him. Maybe Deuxmoi will start paying attention, as well as the pap. He may actually get tagged by them without needing the Ho to call it in first! Plus, if anything, he doesn't like invasions of privacy. Well, when you dance with the devil (popularity over substance) that's what you get Benny B! I swear this is him trying to make up for not getting the Twilight part. It's never gonna be THAT big, but at least he gets a taste of what Robert Pattison had. I have a feeling he enjoyed it for about 5 minutes and now he's second guessing everything. Maybe that's why he is in a grumpy mood. He's already said that when he watched the show he had feelings of "I don't want to be this character anymore".

My 10 year old nephew, who I spend a lot of time with, loves the show. It's perfect for immature kids. I remember practically forcing him to watch Narnia and Stardust, and now I'm just...please no. It's better than my sister with mental disabilities though. She watches Grease Live! A LOT, so I have to hear Ho singing as Sandy a million times.

Also, I love when he repeats the same talking points about a show/movie in every interview. That's usually when you know he thinks its crap. He finds any little thing to focus on that he actually enjoys about the show (the use of different language/unique playing cards) and runs it to the ground. It's like the Friends episode where they are watching another awful TV show of Joey's and they argue over who gets to mention the lighting (or something like that). He did this a lot with Seventh Son. He tried to use the angle of "it's like those old adventurous shows like Sinbad!" to hide the fact that it had such bad writing. Then years later he will openly admit how bad something was. Can't wait for 10 years from now when he trash talks Shadow and Bone and explains his new tactic for great parts. "NOW I look for material that..." blah blah blah.

It would be fun to try to chart the projects he genuinely likes compared to the ones he clearly hates. In my opinion:

LOVES/Proud of: Westworld, Jackie and Ryan for sure. The Words and Killing Bono maybe. Also Birdsong and History Boys (but really upset at himself for leaving) Likes: Narnia, The Punisher Season One, iffy on Season Two (I really think he's pissed about the lack of scars/they didn't listen to him), Stardust Meh: Easy Virtue (mostly loved making out with Biel, working with Colin Firth, and the music), Seventh Son just for Jeff Bridges, Bigga Than Ben HATES: Dorian Gray, By The Gun, Big Wedding (doesn't regret it though. Honestly don't blame him, especially because of Robin Williams), Hyrise Pretends Doesn't Exist: That movie where he dies in a car crash but doesn't know it.

We will see where Shadow and Bone lands later I guess. If you have any debate or if I forgot something, LMK

Ope, I forgot Gold Digger! I'm not sure about that one yet. Hasn't been long enough.

I think I'd place Billy Russo in the love category for him. And with his *eclectic* taste in music, Gold Digger will probably wind up in the love bin. (Insert vomit emoji here) I wonder how many seasons he's committed to? I hope lots and lots and it's utter fucking torture for him.

HE FINALLY MADE IT ONTO DEUXMOI! So it was just a posting of his Raya profile, and it doesn't even show a quote or song or anything, so it's not exactly juicy, but at least he's there. And apparently it's because people were asking for it. So maybe now we will start getting people talking about their matches? Oh come on people! Let's get some dirt. Let's get some non Ho dirt!

R359 I don't know if he really hates Dorian Gray, or just hates that he got panned for it.

R362 So many women have been leaking their Raya encounters with sleazy celebs lately, that I'm certain BB will be deleting his account any day now. But hopefully we can get some old dirt.

R362 R364 Oh that is the most exciting news I've heard in a while!!!! Wonder if he's still so happy to be a member there now that people are leaking it??? That's your no longer private life Benny!!!

btw, do we think he "cleaned up" his dating profile to remove his Messing Around reference recently?? And like, how recently??? Also R362, was it the same he's already half unclothed years old picture??

R365 OK I just saw the post. Definitely my favorite part was the accompanying, "You've all been requesting it, so here it is!"

Good luck with your obscurity now Ben. People are apparently coming out of the woodwork demanding to get a peak behind the curtain of your private life. On *GOSSIP* sites. And they're now being ANSWERED.

Hope you're prepared to be hounded for the foreseeable future!! Everywhere you go. Cause now you'll never know who's going to leak your dating potential to a gossip site for everyone to see!!

Have fun with that Benny!!

So I’m the poster up thread who said that my friend had seen him on Raya. She said the screenshot DM got was what his profile looked like when she last saw him last year, hence why the screenshot shows him as being 38. Very likely that the song was still “Mess Around,” but he probably removed the “unbuttoned shirt” reference since he changed the photo.

In any case, she’s pretty sure he deleted the profile sometime last year, and if he didn’t, he definitely has by now.

So Matthew Perry was FaceTiming with a 19 year old not long ago asking if he was old enough to be her dad. They matched on Raya.

Then there is the desperate Ben Affleck video, they matched on Raya. Not sure how old that girl was.

If Ben was trying to hook up with 19 year olds, that is just sick. I know his good friend Chris Delia likes them young and chris is a predator. If Ben are my buttons low enough Barnes turns out to be a predator scamming on young girls on Raya, like no matter how much he says he is this good guy in interviews I will never believe it. He has even said in interviews how relationships with large age gapes are manipulative and more about control than actual connection. Disgusting.

Girls keep showing those receipts. Out these motherfuckers. If there are receipts from Ben get them out. Grown men trying to fuck people they should never be talking to in the first place, makes me sick. These grown ass men do more damage than they know. Really what do you talk to a 19 year old about when you are in your 30’s or 40’s? Disgusting.

[quote]In any case, she’s pretty sure he deleted the profile sometime last year, and if he didn’t, he definitely has by now.

I'd caution to never assume anything with Ben. Remember he's recently become infamous for making us think one thing, and then doing the exact opposite in private. No reason that can't be the case here too.

For anyone that wanted to know what the rest of his bedroom looks like behind the white interview curtain.

Who wants to read about masculinity and mental health from Ben Barnes?

At least he freely admits he doesn't subscribe to the voice in his head that would make him feel guilty because "who wants to feel bad all the time?"

Oh and also, why does the voice make him think about bad things ever at all, because YOLO.

Seriously can he get any more pathetic? If this is what he requires in order to have any mental health then there is literally something fundamentally wrong with him.

Grow up Ben and kindly join the rest of us in reality. You can maintain your anonymity and privacy much better when you're not explicitly trying to live better and above the rest of us, you utter asshole.

[quote] Maybe even just a couple of years ago I thought, ‘is my career on the right path?’

And to think, he looked around and decided that it was.

I wonder if someone in Ben's family has cancer. He mentions a family member being ill in that interview, and his support of Stand Up 2 Cancer is fairly recent, is it not?

Syl for a couple of years I’ve always wondered if maybe his mom or dad were or is sick. He said before he started westworld he was living back at home because of a sick family member. He had a whole story about how he hurt his foot right before shooting westworld, he fell down the stairs while he was living with his family. Then he started supporting Stand up 2 cancer. Maybe during that point he was like well looks like my career is over, then he got westworld. They originally casted someone older and then changed their minds last minute and like plunged BB into the deep end. If anything this last year he can see how quickly things can change, maybe he should actually start being transparent and stop curating every single thing. Why he is spending time with JH, someone who does nothing but plays games, when he has all these life lessons staring him in the face is beyond me.

People, I need you to address this situation. The fuck is going on on top of Ben's head? Why's he all tarted up like he's doing a Zoom job interview to be a Regional Sales Manager?

Help a brother out.

R374 IG fans speculating that his ‘bed head and tired eyes means he rolled out of bed 10 minutes before the interview started’. Oh, and that he’s wearing PJ bottoms.

Have you guys seen the scary movie Creep on Netflix? In the movie the characters go to the same heart rock that BB took all those pics at. The whole movie is about this creepy guy who lures a guy into following him around and then, well I won’t reveal all the details, bad things happen. Maybe BB might want to rethink those pics. Or is he trying to tell us is he actually a creep? Since he is all about those subtle hints.

I hate how fast his tags move now. It's like my hateful works of art don't bother him at all anymore.

Just watched creep 2 and seriously some of the lines are exactly what BB has said in interviews. There is a whole monologue about how he never lies, just manipulated the truth. That those are not the same thing. If BB is reading this, ummm found your source material. Thought you were just a hypocrite, add creeper to that list as well.

A couple months on from Montanagate, I was wondering how everyone is feeling about BB? I’m personally unsure of how I feel, I want to give people the benefit of the doubt and chock it up to the pandemic being difficult for everyone (even wealthy white men) and might make people behave in ways they might otherwise not, but I don’t know whether that’s being too generous.

I'm just here for the tea and trolling.

R379 I’m still very disappointed in him about the covid travelling and previous ‘stay at home’ preaching. And actually quite surprised at his choice in women even just to hang out with. Empty-headed bimbos just wouldn’t have been my guess as his type but maybe as someone said, he doesn’t want to be challenged by his women and also goes for young ones so he control them. The least I can hope for is that he’s learned his lesson, particularly about the covid stuff. It seems he didn’t go to either Hawaii, Mexico or Costa Rica on her grifting vacations so he either has, or else couldn’t fit it into his busy S&B schedule. Yeah, never ‘meet’ your idols.

Meanwhile, as for the Ho - crisis? what crisis? I’m just gonna carry on trying to screw money out of people who cannot afford it. But at least I give you some sparkles while doing it.

This is less my business than the public health issue of COVID traveling but I’m perplexed by whatever is happening with him/JH. If they ARE together, why would she jet off to Mexico just as he has a big new show drop instead of, idk, sticking around and being supportive? Granted, the way I behave in relationships may not be how someone else would, but if my partner was in a big moment of their career, I’d want to be around to celebrate that with them. And if they’re not together, why strategically wait days to like each other’s IG posts? Maybe it’s a friends with benefits situation? But that doesn’t explain him being so smitten that he was playing cover songs seemingly for/about her last year.

R382 I would have paid good money to be a fly on the wall over the past year, that’s for sure. But I probably wouldn’t have liked what I saw & heard, so just as well I wasn’t! I think she started off using him, kept him dangling for most of the year while she was fucking around with Brooks’ head, before entrapping him with some banging, and... “It’s All Over Now”.

Now there’s a cover for you to sing, Benji.

They could have broken up, or maybe she went away on purpose since he was going to be busy with promos. And one of the trips was a gal-pal's birthday thing, so....

It could just be because I'm old, but I really think people are placing too much emphasis on the timing of his IG likes, lack of likes, and so on. I think it's meaningless.

I think they have something going on still. I think they know people are watching what they like so they are playing this game of supporting each other, but keeping it on the DL. I think she went to Mexico for pap pics, since Brooks had just come out with the new gf. I can even see her trying to get BB to Mexico, but he got scared of the backlash so close to his show being out. Remember he watched the show weeks before it came out, probably with her. As for Mexico she needs bikini pics in the press as a look how amazing I look despite my husband immediately moving on after we split. Also all her clothes are 1000’s dollars worth of cult gaia. Was there a deal there as well? Promote the brand on ig and in the tabloids. Also on all these vacations her clothes are costing 1000’s of dollars. That ugly outfit for montanagate the boots were designer. Designer boots in the snow to ride a horse. Flaunting wealth constantly. I think Costa Rica was maybe last minute thing, hence the post with all of them saying we don’t have kids let’s go to Costa Rica. Why was nina not there in Costa Rica? That is her good friend as well. Where is Nina? Her vacations were basically all of S&B promo. She was gone for like two weeks so then nothing could even come close to outing them during this moment for him. I think that was deliberate. Throw them off the trail, while she documents all of it for BB to see on insta.

BB knows everyone hates her. She can still be supporting him in a private way. Who knows they would be together right now as she probably flew back yesterday.

I think he likes that the trolls hate her and that it is secret. He gets off on that. Now that the fan base is teenagers he knows it will ruin it to post anything personal. Personal now is JH. I think she won. Brooks knows that’s why he did the press announcement of his new relationship. No one made him do that. No one cares, him and his gf are not famous. JH is a master manipulator and BB is weak obviously. He really only cares about money and fame and ego. Just like her. She is perfect for what he wants, she has millions, goes on expensive vacas, constantly grifting, “famous”, and sparkles. He really needs to belong somewhere in Hollywood. Hello magazine called them a power couple. Would be ecstatic to be proven wrong, I think they are together.

[quote] Hello magazine called them a power couple.

They did?!? Someone at Hello needs to look up the word "power" in a dictionary.

Shoutout to the DL mention in this thread seeking tea on BB!

Shoutout to the DL mention in this thread seeking tea about BB!

[quote] A friend worked on the Narnia films with him back then and absolutely swore blind that he slept with men, not sure whether he meant exclusively but who knows if it’s true

See!! We told you!

Though if some Redditor thinks these threads have been about Shadow & Bone thirst, I don't know WTF thread they've been reading.

And I don't have a reddit account. Someone drop this link in that thread.

R390 sorry, I can’t see that link — what was it?

R391 Someone made a master post of the whole Montanagate timeline and within a few hours their entire account was "mysteriously" shut down. Either way, we need to go represent in that Reddit thread.

Let’s go!!!! Twitter, insta, Reddit. Can we get a copy of that timeline and just blast it everywhere?!

R391 Benny boy is hardcore coming after us today. He took down two accounts -- not just blocking, either.

R394 interesting, do we think that was him or JH? She obviously has more PR prowess, was she tagged in them?

Here ya go

I have a limited number of taggable.accounts left so steal those pics, kids! I also have several mean memes I'd be happy to share.

Blocked already so it must have been Jules who took down the accounts earlier.

A fun meme

OK, honest question, as I didn't see it happen live.

Were these accounts literally completely shut down by IG, or was it only a time out cause someone reported it and the algorithm is automated, or something else?

Because I saw and read that entire post first thing this morning. All I saw was a gathering of publicly available info posted widely elsewhere on the internet to point out a timeline. Did I miss an implicit threat in there? Did the post "reshare" info that was unequivocally adjudicated as false? Did the post break ANY *actual* rules At. All.

Cause this would be a new level of self-righteous indignant arrogance if Ben himself got an account cancelled because it reposted documented evidence of things he did that he doesn't want the world to know about or blame him for. He would come across as nothing more than an entirely elitist asshole if this was him.

Do you think they will coming out publicly soon? Why go so hard to bury all that is negative? She is back in LA now. Next pap walk soon? He is definitely elitist, his actions show that.

All of that information has been out before. It's maybe never been posted all at once like that? But yeah, nothing new. They're just assholes. But -- I think the ho is the one that got two of our accounts shut down because we tagged her. The last time I posted it, I only tagged Benny to experiment and he just blocked me.

And twitter.

[quote]I think the ho is the one that got two of our accounts shut down because we tagged her. The last time I posted it, I only tagged Benny to experiment and he just blocked me.

R402 Then that is the company he chose and kept as his (probable) girlfriend. A woman so high n' mighty and self obsessed that she literally can't handle the fact that people think she isn't perfect and are calling her out on her shit with the documented proof.

Word of advice for the dumb bint. If you can't handle the truth from the public, stay the fuck out of the public eye.

R404 well said. I have nothing but disgust for him for the whole affair, from the fact that she's married to the behavior he displayed in her company. However, he's 40, he chose to act this way and to do all these hypocritical things. I hope he still has a conscience and it is giving him an ulcer.

[quote]I hope he still has a conscience and it is giving him an ulcer.

R405 Well hate to disappoint you dear, but never forget..

Suffering is a choice. And Ben himself confirmed recently that he doesn't listen to the critical voice in his head anymore, because why feel bad all the time. There's nothing but fun to be had for Ben apparently, and he's never going to get this day back, so he's going to live it with the most amount of sunshine as is (in)humanly possible.

I honestly wonder if he's turned to drugs yet. His apparent dopamine addiction is dangerously massive at this point.

The Community Guidelines of IG are vague and all-encompassing enough that the accounts could have been shut down for any one of them, regardless of the fact that millions of other accounts do the same things.

JH in Joshua tree? First personal post in ages. Couple announcement next? Also R406 I think we have our answer the to the drugs question and it is yes. That is really the only reason why people go to the middle of the desert and that is to do drugs.

I've always wanted to go to Joshua Tree, and I have no interest in doing drugs. Oh and by the way, the trees are a protected species under California State law and you're really not supposed to touch or climb on them like a buffoon. They're pretty fragile.

I come from Northern California and when you live in Cali the only reason you go to Joshua tree is to do drugs. There really isn’t a lot to do anyway. A lot of rich people have these enormous houses. It’s a thing.

R409 Ummm, since when does Ben Barnes care AT ALL if what he's doing is wrong or illegal? Did I miss something?? I mean, who the hell cares if he could have hurt something the rest of us are explicitly trying to protect from harm?!?

After all. . . YOLO. All he cares about.

Anyone figure out who he is with in Joshua tree?

Well we know he isn’t with JH. Also CPR, aren’t you not suppose to breathe in the mouth anymore. Didn’t they change that? Ummmm home girl I think you are doing that wrong.

R413 Yeah they changed the guidelines so ummm Allison you died! JH did not save you. They need to get better training. She can’t even do a basic thing correctly. Ben why? Why her?

R412 Well Rob just posted a reference to filming, but didn't explicitly say he was doing so today. Chike is in Australia. And how can we be sure either Ben's or The Ho's pictures are from today?? Can anyone glean metadata from IG posts???

R415 her first sets of stories today were from a Kinrgy live session this morning done with her other instructors, so there’s that. No clue when BB’s photo was actually taken, but he had some S&B fan event that he did from home on Saturday morning/afternoon so probably sometime between then and today.

R412 Check out The Sleuth’s IG stories. Seems unlikely, is the short answer.

Seems like Benny has a new private account. Aborted story and Jack has a new follower.

R418 what was the story?

Well what was the aborted story? Don't be shy!

Also, should we read into the fact that he just followed an account that recently followed The Ho's and Nina's hairstylist? It's produced by The Today Show, so he could have done an interview. But they haven't followed him back yet!!! Let's wonder..

He deleted it so quickly it was gone by the time I tapped the notification it was gone. No clue what it was. The sleuth didn't catch it either.

"Look mum! I'm defacing Joshua trees!! Wish you were here."

R422 Damnit, he's getting better at covering up his mistakes and actually removing them from the internet! Why god, why..

R422 But IG’s notifications for him have been all over the place recently - I get them 12 or 24 hrs later or they pop up and there’s nothing there. They are not appearing when he does actually post. Somebody usually always catches the deleted ones - ‘UK tree post’ at Xmas for example.

BWAHAHAHAAAAA

R426 Oh but guys I just didn't know!! I can't be held responsible if I didn't know the rules, right? I mean, I shouldn't be held responsible even when I do know the rules, so..

I wonder if he'll acknowledge this one? It seems like a "safe" mistake -- he can abashedly grovel for forgiveness and will look better in the eyes of his fangirls without revealing any personal details. He can't acknowledge Montana because that's an admission to banging JH.

Any the comments give me life.

Will BBG go on an anti-Joshua Tree crusade now? LOL

R428 Well if he does acknowledge this one, it's an implicit acknowledgment that Montanagate happened too. He can acknowledge Joshua because it's no big deal, just a little oops when he didn't know better. He can't ever acknowledge Montana because it was a big deal when he did know better. Acknowledging Joshua confirms the latter.

So Ben has dug himself into a whole. He can't ever acknowledge mistakes going forward. From now on, he has to be seen as infallible or people will bring up Montanagate every time he's not..

Good luck being in public with that requirement Benny!!

Ahahaha I love the comments on that insta post. He is an idiot! Here is another example of how he only thinks about himself. He doesn’t think how his actions affect anything or anyone else. Probably didn’t even wonder hey can I do this? Can I climb this tree?

Anything for the gram, or the clout which I think was the whole JH thing was to begin with. BB was like I need to get more insta followers because I haven’t acted in a year and JH needed him as well ti makes brooks jealous. Starting to think it was JH who also put out the brooks new girlfriend story. Anything to keep her name in the press. Then that justifies all the thirst trap pics and doesn’t paint her like the vapid person she is.

Love that this happened because here is the pattern emerging. If someone has to tell you they are a good guy, they usually are not a good guy. If someone has to constantly say they mean well, all while acting like a narcissist, you have to look at their actions. I’m sure he will never acknowledge any criticism because he has confused criticism will hate and trolling. They are not the same thing, you would think a 39 year old would grasp that.

Does he understand the more famous you get the more scrutiny you get, so then you can’t really make mistakes? He wants the fame, but yet not everything that comes with it. Be careful what you wish for, the world is not kind.

Just in case anyone stopped keeping track.. the moron is back to liking practically every single one of her posts. And very quickly at that.

Perhaps we had a good run that there was ANY hope for his future for a little while there.

R432 loved the insta post! I seriously thought we were done with this bullshit. Like she never supports him in a public manner, her best friends never support him they can’t even follow him back on an app, and yet here he is like a thirsty bitch begging for them to like him and constantly supporting them. Isn’t it the one who doesn’t care has all the power? He is just giving all his power away. Like JH is not helping him at all, people hate her, all the comments on anything that has her in it reflect that. Him going so hard in supporting her makes no sense. She must be a phenomenal fuck, he is wiped. All she is doing is using him, it’s so obvious. 🙄

or since he doesn’t have another acting gig lined up, he is going back to drama to keep him relevant. You can only talk about the show that already came out for so long. Then you need another thing, JH is the other thing? God pathetic.

So is she liking any of *his* posts, or?

I hate to say this, but doesn’t his video of the poem for his followers look like the same production quality as her Kinrgy stuff? Would say I’m paranoid but paranoia tends to pay off in terms of info on these two...

That poem was shit. “Unfollow on your bike”? Wtf? Could that be her place in the background? Always wondered why it was so close on his face. Like do we need to see every pore and all the wrinkles? Idk sleuth let us know! Looks like they are still together. Almost a year and a half and they don’t announce, so stupid. Even ben and Jlo are like yeah we are on vacation together. Come on, they are both so uncool.

Right about the interview hence the new follow. What else are we right about?

Alright, I’m about to embarrass myself by showing how much I care about this nonsense, but here goes. If they are fully together, I could at least respect him and be happy for him if they weren’t so weirdly cagey. No one is asking them to make public declarations, but why was it necessary to put out those ice cream photos and have a “source” say they’re just friends instead of just letting the photos speak for themselves and not commenting?

If he at least seemed happy in whatever this situationship is, I could respect that. Instead, we got mopey covers all of last year and thinly veiled posts about having a tough time. Her friends and family still follow Brooks and like/comment on his photos, Brooks is constantly posting about his friendship with her former assistant/best friend. As someone said above, none of these people (except for Kristy, for a hot second) bothered to follow him back. Sure, social media is not real life, but it says a lot that they all love Brooks but haven’t paid BB any attention. Also don’t know what the point was of Rob and Zelda Williams unfollowing JH when Jack unfortunately still follows her.

I don’t know exactly what either of them gets out of this unless it’s a friends with benefits situation, because I also can’t imagine being JH and having a boyfriend who prefers to hide that he’s ever with you rather than defending you from hate.

[quote]Also don’t know what the point was of Rob and Zelda Williams unfollowing JH when Jack unfortunately still follows her. . . being JH and having a boyfriend who prefers to hide that he’s ever with you rather than defending you from hate.

R438 Jack did unfollow her on the same night that Rob did. He refollowed her at a later date, though I didn't notice exactly when. Who knows why for both of those.

And just look to tonight's tagfest for the answer to the second part. Ben is very clearly a lover, not a fighter. That blackface posting was up for four hours. Did Ben bother to do anything about it that whole time? Nope. Four hours. But if you had checked, you would have seen the call to arms by his fangirls to save him from the mean pictures. Cause Ben perhaps sees himself as the male lion. Make the pride of females do all your work for you as you lounge away in oblivious blind luxury at the center of it all.

Recall that, even back during the November/December period when he was liking literally nearly every post, the few he didn't had to do with her businesses/professional associations. Mostly what she posts are selfies where she shows off how pretty/sexy she is, and those are the posts he liked. So does he actually support her? Would he ever defend her as a person? Does he actually even like her? Or does he only like that she's young and hot and he can fuck her. Cause you don't have to see someone as a worthy person to do that. You can just Mess Around..

[quote] the call to arms by his fangirls to save him from the mean pictures

So the fangirls are defending blackface (in a roundabout way) now? I'd love to know the mental contortions they had to put themselves through on that one.

I agree with R438. So much more respect if he'd just grow a set. Look at Benedict Cumberbatch, who had 1000x more and 1000x crazier fangirls than BB could ever hope to have on his best day. But when he got together with his girlfriend, there she was, on the red carpet, out in public living life with him. Cumberbatch said, "Here's my gf/wife/mother of my child. Deal with it, fangirls." And the world didn't end, he still has a career, has in fact moved on a bit from fanservice projects. He probably still has a core of true loons who think that Sophie is an android or something, but Bennie C don't give a fuck because he's an adult.

Perhaps BB and JH really are just fuck buddies. It's the most sensible solution to this puzzle.

Isn’t it all just kind of sad? He is almost 40 and he doesn’t have the maturity or confidence to share any part of himself that isn’t perfectly controlled and curated. The most support he can show to the important people in his life is to like a photo on an app. Not even a post. Maybe a comment on their post. Then everything he post has to be about himself. Even a happy birthday is a video of himself, so it’s never really about the other person. Even if they are fuck buddies that is sad. A year of that? He seems sad and boring to me now.

[quote]So the fangirls are defending blackface (in a roundabout way) now? I'd love to know the mental contortions they had to put themselves through on that one.

R440 Well Ben was perfectly okay with it, therefore his fans are now perfectly okay with it. No mental contortions needed whatsoever.

And you step out on the red carpet when you're in a serious relationship. Do we know of anything in Benny's past that could be described as a serious relationship? Or has he always just been messin around with his girls.

I mean, don't serious relationships require serious women? Cause Ben only ever seems to pick girls. And probably with good reason. A real woman would likely eat him alive given the toxic requirements of his lifestyle. Gaslighting, manipulation, control.. those are only possible with girls.

Well also let’s look at the character of JH. Besides the obvious grifting, using the public aspects of her marriage as an example, she went into the marriage not being 100% transparent and honest with her partner. For your husband to find out you are bi sexual and you act like ugh yeah no big deal, I’m always known this. That is huge! Maybe to your partner that is a big deal, also why were you not able to trust him enough with that before you got married. Why did that turn into a media ploy? Also they didn’t seem in the same page about building a family, that is huge! Usually you figure these things out before getting married. So not a surprise they didn’t even last 1000 days.

She has a problem being honest and transparent in general. This is who Ben has decided to lift up in his life. This person with this type of character. Committed relationships have to be rooted in more than just fucking in order to last. For Ben that seems to be all he wants, use someone for his own needs and then bail. So either ben has no fucking idea who he is, or he is exactly like JH. They are deceitful to themselves, you can never find fulfillment in that.

Around 19:18 in here, she asks his relationship status, which he of course declines to answer but adds that when he meets the woman he wants to marry, he promises to be less coy about it.

He unfollowed them as well, ummm is he reading these? Well at least we know he doesn’t want to marry JH and completely ruin his life.

Who let her do her makeup that way? Who allowed this? No, no, no.

[quote] when he meets the woman he wants to marry, he promises to be less coy about it

Yeah, yeah, he's said that before. Poor Benji, always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

Also there are millions of people in the world. Like I’m sure he has met woman who he doesn’t even deserve to be with and he clearly ruined it. Otherwise where is this marriage material woman that seems so elusive to you? Oh wait he picks woman like JH to invest in so clearly the problem lies with him alone.

R447 Syl my thoughts exactly, he has been using that same line for years!

R448 If a person keeps having failed relationship after failed relationship, sooner or later they need to figure out that the common element is themselves.

Just of note.. he said it stresses him out that people would be curious if he's dating. That if he ever finds the woman he's going to marry, then that will be that.

It wasn't even an inkling of he would be proud to be with her. She would be the best person. He would be so happy with her. She'd make him a better man because they take care of each other. Etc.

No. It was 'that will be that. At least I'll stress less.' Cause apparently literally all he cares about is his image, how she would make him look. I would think that would make for atrociously terrible boyfriend material. And considering the flippant, emotionless 'resignation' above, utterly ridiculous fiance/husband material too.

Imagine if there were kids. They'd never be let out of the house unless Ben could guarantee 100% best behavior. Anything less and it might make him look bad. And he'd stress.

And doesn't stress age you? Cause he's turning FORTY. Even though he told us Yet. Again. that we weren't allowed to mention the number. He better not ever teach the kids he doesn't deserve to count!!!

Something fundamentally broken with him. Gross.

The sack race video for Kinrgy that JH is tagged in, is that brooks dog? So are they hanging out again? Another ply to make BB jealous. God it’s like the same games with her. BB where is your wifey?! Better find her fast, otherwise gonna be the sad old dude for the rest of your career.

Ploy*

If BB and JH are together then he must be cool with the fact that brooks hang out with her family and is still around. Like he was Hawaii with Derek all while JH was in Mexico and then Costa Rica. How awkward!

Uh-oh.. He's overjoyed at his castle of love.

[quote] stresses him out that people would be curious if he's dating

Really? All of these crazy charades and spy games (which must cause their own fair share of stress -- we can all see how much work goes into it) because it "stresses him out"? Shoulda stayed in the theatre, Benji. Then nobody would be curious about who you're dating.

Are we finding meaning in this cover? He is overjoyed his love also loves him? That’s the meaning yes. I mean she has been stringing him along for over a year.

Maybe he has finally realized he is gay and is overjoyed! I like that better. Let’s keep that narrative Benny b.

All I'm reading into it is that he's a life long Stevie Wonder fangirl. And thanking God that he didn't choose "Isn't She Lovely?"

R457 R458 Agree with Syl. He’s been singing Stevie Wonder songs since he was a kid. And it’s for #overjoyedchallenge which was initiated by someone else, so he didn’t choose the song.

Does he have a tiktok? A bit old for that no?

R460 Well last time for the Blackbird challenge, he claimed he borrowed a friend's account. He was quarantining for S&B pick-ups and had all very young costars, so certainly possible.

He shot this one in his bedroom. So someone just texted him their account and password? Is that a thing? I literally would NOT know.

I knew that was JH and brooks dog. Thing for Dereks birthday. Weird that she nor brooks have said happy birthday on insta to Derek. Also brooks is so boring! I get why she wanted the divorce. Imagine spending all your time with him, 😕 Then again Ben is also boring. Feel like this thread is dying because of how boring he is as of late.

[R462] I mean, imagine spending all your time with JH.

@deuxmoi finally posted something! It's coming together!

R464 what was the post?

Someone asking if he and the ho are still together. They know that they took a trip to Montana together at the beginning of the year but they want to know if they're still an item.

Deauxmoi responded that she didn't know anything but she wished she did because she's getting a ton of questions about him and if we knew anything to send in.

R466 Huh. So tons of people are writing into a gossip site asking about Ben's love life cause everyone knows about Montanagate, and the ice cream date was clearly the best choice ever (or was that The HoughMonster??).

Do we think he's "stressed" yet??

Thank god he has access to free quality psychiatric care.

The header picture paired up with this caption...unintentionally hilarious!!

*sneering*

R466 “I have zero info on this” - join the club, Deuxmoi lmao

A round of applause please for our DLers and The Sleuth for refusing to let Montanagate be buried until finally, it's public knowledge.

So she does Disney, he does a Disney storytelling. He does Range Rover, now she is doing Range Rover. Yet they still aren’t telling the world they are fucking! BB if you are going into the grifting game, just own it. JH sure does. Clowns, both of them, fucking clowns.

BB needs to be in the Drew Barrymore show! So then he can stress about dodging questions about his love life. What if he pulls a Katie Holmes/Tom cruise moment and shows up with JH to the talk show. They can have a jumping on the couch Oprah moment.

So I never dropped this in these threads because it’s barely interesting, but I do know that the Disney reading happened because he saw everyone else reading stories for them during the pandemic and slid into their DMs on Instagram offering to read one (a friend of a friend runs their social channels and passed this along).

I don’t want to jinx us, but I am starting to believe the friends with benefits theory — that way, they weren’t necessarily lying when they said “we’re just friends” when the ice cream photos came out. Time will tell, I guess.

According to someone who responded to the Deuxmoi post, the Ho is dating ‘an audio/crew guy’ from AGT. They allegedly have friends amongst the crew. No other details though, like when this happened or if it still is.

Yeah R474, I’m beginning to think it’s a friends with (or even without) benefits. Total publationship thing, maybe.

R475 Forgot to say, with the addition of letting the Ho play mind games with Brooks Nd possibly BB too.

R474 barely interesting because look who the subject matter is. Deuxmoi doesn’t fact check by the way, so anyone can say anything. The whole which celebrity marriage is ending ring around.

R474 For the record.. combining "slid into their DMs" and "offered to read children a story" into the same sentence just. . . REALLY creeped me out.

Cheers. ;)

R475 The post said when shooting "last season," but when was that?

R478 HA I am so sorry, I didn’t even think of that. Sending a virtual sage for your brain! Apparently he saw the cross posted videos on Marvel’s account and messaged them and the friend of my friend runs the Marvel account and connected him with the Disney IG people.

R479 wasn’t the last episode for season 15 back in September 2020? So she was dating that crew member before Montana and then decided to fuck around with BB? Idk I call bullshit.

Didn’t brooks and her do that whole reconciliation in October/November? Then they announced the divorce. She was fucking a crew member of AGT and then went back to her ex husband and then two months later was with BB? Dang that is a lot. BB was just sitting there alone waiting for her while she fucked around?

Did BB know she was playing him, her ex husband, and this random dude? Imagine Brooks thinking he can save his marriage and she was probably texting BB. BB was liking and commenting on all her posts and all the while she was playing all these games, allegedly. So from what I can gather the crew member is not recent, but from 8 months ago?

So many friends of friends on these threads.

I thought the person giving the info worked there "last season". Doesn't mean they aren't dating now. Maybe they just heard the gossip from common people they all know through the show. Not that I am saying I think it's for sure true. Just pointing out that the way it's worded doesn't mean that the actual dating happened way back then, maybe they met back then and are dating now.

Home girl JH our favorite, photoshopped all those bikini pics. Did BB like them yet? I got kicked off insta for trolling.

R485 Nope, no like yet - posted about 7 hours ago. He’s been on Insta since then. They’re not that ‘sexy’ IMO.

Also Deuxmoi posted again about her alleged boyfriend.

R486 what was the post? I can’t see it as the account is private

R487 Nothing interesting tbh. Someone who knows the ‘boom guy’ from the show and saying he’s hot. Says she got lucky if she dated him. The lack of timeline’s annoying though. When did this allegedly take place - 2019, 2020, now?

Overlapping with BL, BB, both or neither of them?!

Hope someone follows up with more detailed info!

Still no like from BB on her post as yet.....

Any like from BB yet? I mean almost a thousand dollars for that ugly cover up. So out of touch.

Alright admit it folks.. who's excited for tomorrow's virtual S&B virtual con panel?!?!?

R489 Nope, still no public like.

R490 Maybe those multiple "virtuals" are like a double negative and it will magically become real! Even more exciting!

(sigh..)

R490 Not me!

FWIW, in the interview from R444, Ben mentions that he actually finally found a RomCom that he really wanted to do and tried to get it. But then found out the timing wouldn't work. Why not? What timing? Does he have something else lined up we don't know about? Or is this interview below nothing more than the same stale and insipid lying classic of, "oh don't ask us we're just the dumb actors so we definitely wouldn't know if our extremely popular and we'll reviewed/received #1 show for how long was it exactly has been renewed yet.

So was he lying that he tried and failed to get the RomCom and gave the excuse about timing? Cause why bring it up at all? Or has he known for a while now that S&B has been renewed and he knows when production will start, but he has to have a (ridiculous) go at his Aw Shucks I'm Adorably Ignorant schtick cause it's literally his job to lie to the fans.

Oh when your job is to lie for a living. Wonder if that ever has consequences.

R493 he has been doing this often during this press tour for S&B. Talking about the projects he couldn’t do because of timing. Like dude you have been sitting doing nothing for over a year. I have never understood why actors talk about projects they were never involved with. Like you failed, you didn’t get the part. Hollywood is all about lying and saying oh it is a timing thing when really you got fired or rejected, ie Armie Hammer and the Jlo rom com. I think he is lying to make himself appear to be more in demand than he actually is. If he says it in an interview than there will be an article that is written up, because who cares if it is actually true or not. He never used this tactic before so must be a new PR strategy, just like the buying insta followers, and doing pap walks. This new BB is such a douche. Fake Hollywood bullshit to the max.

How do we know for sure he bought IG followers? Not doubting you at all R494 because I can see it, but just curious!

R495 we don’t for sure about anything about BB. This whole forum is only based on speculation because good luck getting a straight answer out of him for anything. His followers started growing around every pap walk with JH. Before that his following wasn’t growing that much, even after punisher. She has 4 million followers and her engagement is less than people with 9,000 followers. Clearly most of her followers are bots, she could have easily helped him with that process. Most celebrities buy followers. There is a whole documentary about it. It is the industry. I know you want to think BB is this great guy, but let’s open our eyes please.

Oh do tell us more you naughty tease!!!

R497 But as a follow up, I started going through some of the posts about yesterday and came across this one. So I don't know what this person is worried about! Ben knows he has a cult following him, he personally knows the most obsessive leaders of his cult, and he knows how well they protect him from anything and everything that could possibly ever discourage his ego from his infallibility and perfection. Because Ben is a literal angel among us and can't ever be wrong, and therefore should never be hurt or made uncomfortable by anything.

The moral failings and dangers of religion folks. "Open your eyes" my ass.

R497 Dear god how nauseating. I want to go on record as condoning any and all shit that anyone wishes to talk about BB. So there!

So, you say you paid him 85€ for 3 minutes and he was *polite*? Like he did the bare minimum? Wow! What a guy!

I laughed my ass off when he said he wanted to meet more people. Translation: needs plastic surgery because he's starting to show his age and his hairline is definitely receding.

Omg and he has to pay for studio time!! Who here can't wait for his album of original songs??????

I don't even want to hear it! I'm not big on SHE and CRINGE talk, but I have a feeling that album would make me cringe so hard I'd never recover. I love when he says he wants to do his own music so he can sing the way he wants. Like dude.... dude! The only time he ever sounds good is when someone else has control. He really does have a good voice. I genuinely like the sound of it. The singing on the other hand... having a great voice does not a great singer make. Plus, we all heard that poem. Lord.

I'm super happy though. I think I'm ready to move on. I've found a new celeb crush and like poof! I look at Ben and there is nothing. He's still a good looking man, but I need more than that. I have been having a lot of trouble with his lack of acting skills... I'm a total acting geek, it's a big deal to me, and having a crush on someone who sucked at it was rough. Before I was at least proud of his ability to be different in every role, as I've said before. His charm and chameleon like ability made him still pleasurable to watch. Not anymore. New guy has always been on my radar as a terrific actor, and lately he's been upgraded as a full on crush. Phew! Someone I can respect, at least talent wise. And he's fucking upfront about his love life. What a concept. I'm also getting super bored of JH, Shadow and Bone, and just all of it. I might peek in from time to time to see if finally some big dirt comes about. See if his thirst for popularity comes to bite his private ass. Besides that, I'm done. You guys are a blast to talk to, keep having as much fun with this shit as you can. Later gators.

R501 Yes, when Ben gets to choose his own singing style, what we end up with is one mangled classic after another. I wish you joy in your new celeb crush. I wouldn't call it a crush, but I've recently re-discovered Dane DeHaan, who I've always thought was very talented and attractive in an off-kilter way. Looking forward to his new show on Apple+. He seems to live quietly in the Catskills with his wife and kids, and his IG is full of pictures of him wearing a mask and re-posting Biden's COVID updates.

And dig this quote: "A lot of the villains I’ve played, I was coming from an idea that everybody is, in their hearts, good, and somehow that goes wrong. But that’s not how I feel now. I think all bad people justify their behaviour to themselves, but that doesn’t make their behaviour justifiable, and they’re not all victims of their circumstance. Some people are just bad.”

Suck on THAT, Mr. "All My Villains Must have a Cutesy Side So My Fangirls Won't Stop Worshipping Me" Barnes.

R502 Is that a quote from Dane himself? Cause I would guess he's older, given the inherent wisdom in my favorite part.

[quote]I think all bad people justify their behaviour to themselves, but that doesn’t make their behaviour justifiable, and they’re not all victims of their circumstance. Some people are just bad.”

Of course Ben still largely believes and acts like a naive child. Don't dare remind him he's turning FORTY, it crushes his "lover of life cause it's ALL sunshine and rainbows and sparkles!" vibe. He doesn't ever have to bother trying to justify any of his behaviors because life is ALL good and he has the right to make himself happy ALL the time. Well I mean, his cult tells him that All. The. Time.

Funny though that casting directors have repeatedly been putting him in very dark manipulative villain roles for YEARS now. I wonder if they see something that Ben and his cult won't. But only because they REFUSE to look. They inherently know they wouldn't like what they saw if they did, and they're all cowards.

Everyone can learn to become a villain. It's what happens when your bad behavior is never checked. And villains are sexy, just ask every girl out there. Real women however? Well there I'm not so sure. Good thing Ben likes 'em young.

[quote] Is that a quote from Dane himself?

Yes. I still think of him as the evil superpowered teen from "Chronicle," so I have a hard time believing that he's married with kids and spouting off wisdom.

R504 Oh holy crap, he's not older, he's actually younger! Humbly surprised! But maybe that wisdom is what happens when you ACTUALLY grow up, get married and have children. You know, that thing Ben has always claimed he wanted to do, but has instead chosen to go backwards in terms of being worthy.

Funny that.

R505 Not sure he even means it when he says that. It’s what he thinks he should say now that he’s almost 40. But it would disrupt his hedonistic lifestyle in every way and I’m not sure he’s actually ready to give that up.

Ben probably wishes he was a real-life Dorian Gray.

Could you imagine him hanging out at Malibu with a harassed wife and a legion of baby strollers in tow?

Nah, me neither.

R508. Ben would never push his child about in a stroller (sorry, Ben..."pram"), people might SEE it! He'd stuff it into a backpack and claim it was "just his gym gear."

Actually, if he's at all serious about this marriage and family schtick, which I don't think he is, he'd move back to England and raise his hypothetical kid there. The British press doesn't give two shits about him, and the privacy laws are much more strict.

“As for Hough, she started listing her turn-ons, which started with “a smile.”

The Dancing With the Stars alum, who announced her split from husband Brooks Laich last year, admitted that she's all "about the physical right now," and noted that she's into "a great body and abs and pecs."”

So, not Ben then?

R510 Well I just threw up. But at least she has no problems admitting she's completely empty headed and shallow.

Your move Ben. You can add it to your Raya profile so it goes public.

R510 R511 Definitely not Ben, then LMAO!!! Poor lamb.

Anyone figure out if there’s a new private IG account yet?

The fangirls have swarmed and done their duty. Over 300 comments so far with every single one telling him they love him so much, a bunch with references to unconditionally, and a hella lot thanking him for existing. Cause they're all dramatically young.

Gotta admit, boy knows how to play the game.

“I needed this today” did he read JH’s comment about only being “all about” abs and pecs?

Just a guess..

Given his oft referenced penchant for writing dramatic letters, he heard back from his last chance yesterday, and no one wants to publish his stupid album.

Because no one of any actual importance and talent knows or cares about him. Only his fangirls think he's the king shit. And his massive ego was stupid enough to believe their hype.

Sounds plausible to me.

R516 I like the way you think. Lukewarm white boy smooth jamz are not the current thing.

R517 I would have gone with "trying way too hard to be something you're not is not an appealing thing." But to each his own. ;)

You over sing everything Ben. I know you like it, but it's not what you were made for, and it kills the natural talent you do actually have. Shame you always need to be bigger and better than you actually are.

Just gonna leave this here...

“ In the clip, Julianne’s niece said the former “Dancing With the Stars” judge also “knows Ben Barnes.””

"Knows" in the Biblical sense.

R520 There's absolutely nothing "biblical" about that "relationship."

Well actually no on second thought, the bible is generally full of nothing more than horror stories that ruin people's lives. Perfect description then.

Well, I hope the privacy thing works out better for Ben than it did for DiCaprio, because it would seem that this entire family is tacky as hell.

R522 Well except that it already just didn't. ;)

Oops. Amusing that Tik Tok is coming to bite him in the ass. Maybe that's what you get when you insist on being young forever.

Okay.

So Ben just tweeted the link to his new interview. I started scrolling through the comments, and could only get so far because most at the top were all warning him not to search his tags today. Asked why, they replied there was nothing but NSFW comments. One even replied something like, "we're all really horny today and he's not going to want to read that."

Congratulations Ben. Perhaps those hundreds of thousands of new followers you got are all nothing more than extremely horny teenagers and twenty-somethings that are hellbent on forcing their thirst upon you.

And with summer starting up they'll have nothing but free time. They're coming for you, and they are legion.

Poor, poor Benji. Everywhere he looks, it's either raunchy tags that offend his delicate sensibilities, or "mean" truth-telling tags that also offend his delicate sensibilities. Poor fragile flower.

Haha he wishes.

Just cause I feel like sharing a source of amusement..

The story referenced in R519 is still making the rounds a bit, and it is truly such a joy to read how pretty universally dismissed, hated and reviled The HoughMonster is as I quickly peruse the comments.

Of course that's because she actually is utter garbage, but it's nice to know everyone else sees it too.

Ugh JH is complete garbage and her family is so embarrassing. So nice to see that is the consensus. If Hello mag is right and she is back with Ryan, why would she care. After that whole Leo leak the A-list won’t be welcoming her. Ryan isn’t he worth $300 million? So he can fund her failing businesses. Ben who?

I had to come back just to say that oh my good god Ben's singing, sorry, caterwauling as it is now, has jumped the shark! It's the worst he's ever done, utterly destroying the Friends theme. I had to turn it off. I've never had to turn it off mid song. It would be funny if it wasn't so offensive.

Also had to say, keep those jungle red claws sharp Sylvia! The only sane Ben "fans" need your guidance more than ever.

Who is gonna tell him he is not a songwriter? I agree that song is one of the worst. Can’t imagine what his original songs must be like. BB stick to what you are good at, which is really just being pretty.

Ok, you guys made me go and listen. BEN WHY DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE EVERYTHING SUCK?

And of COURSE he's watching the "Friends" reunion, because he is the most Basic Becky Bitch on the Earth.

I only got half way through the friends reunion. There were so many parts that were so cheesy and forced. All of them are all really weird now because that is what happens when you have so much money and are a celebrity for so long. The reunion really highlighted how all of them were only good on that show, now what do they have to offer?

His cover was just ummm not good. Smart move making it just a story, even though his fans will now copy it and put it on everything for all time. He really needs someone besides himself to listen to these songs before he puts them out, he is so pitchy and the whole added interlude made no sense. All the sudden it was like a new song. Didn’t work.

R516 (and the past few) Well he has said multiple times now that, despite the plethora of requests, the reason he hasn't posted any covers lately is because he's working on putting an album out.

But today he posted a cover. Thoughts?

R533 maybe just something to “whet the appetite” and give us a preview of his songwriting? Now that he’s mentioned his album publicly, I doubt he’d backtrack. Maybe he’ll drop it on his birthday.

In SHADOWS & BONE, Ben's beard is dyed too dark.

He also looks like his face has DL's infamous "fillers."

He looks horrible.

There’s a hashtag for the reunion on IG so of course Benny Boy had to contribute.

R536 I'm not sure if that was a little typo on your part, but Ben actually used the reunion tag on his tweet, he didn't use it on his IG post. Instead he tagged 'not going anywhere' on IG. Which is not a line in the lyrics. Is it a famous line from Friends? Is he sending weird passive aggressive messages? I'm confused?

R537 I thought it was a reference to how he’ll “be there” for whoever he’s singing to and “not going anywhere” in that sense?

R537 Yeah - Twitter not IG!

R538 I’m truly hoping this is not another coded message for The Ho. Surely he’s learned his lesson on that score by now? If it is though, I’m sure she’ll be highly amused while she snuggles back up to Seacrest’s millions.

She liked the post so maybe it is another little message for her? After the recent ‘revelations’ about di Caprio which also mentioned Barnes, I’m sure The HoMonster was quick to contact him and say it was nothing to do with her (yeah right). Just some more of her haters stirring up trouble, poor little Jules. And her little puppy felt moved to show her some support. Why else would she like it? She ignores just about all of his stuff.

If he’s still entangled with this poisonous dwarf then he’s a much, much bigger fool than I took him for.

R540 And she doesn’t follow him (or anyone) so it’s not like it would appear on her feed, she had to go looking for it. Though I guess she does “like” a lot of his music stuff. Ah, just when I was starting to have hope we’d be rid of her. The fact that I’ve had to learn who this woman is as well as learn about YA pre-teen stans simply because I’ve thought about Barnes for more than two seconds should be illegal.

R541 Of course it could be a message for any one of his friends who might be going through something at the moment. As usual we will probably never know,. I prefer that version to The Ho Theory. I can’t see him being pleased at being included in The Di Caprio Video, whoever was responsible for it (and c’mon JH, we know it was you).

He didn’t like her post from a few days ago so who knows. I’m so sick of that stupid empty-headed woman, I really don’t want to think about her any more. Hoping he now feels the same.

R542 Well in fairness, he hasn't liked any of her posts for many weeks now. Maybe those Seacrest rumors are true after all?

And since you don't think about her, you would have missed her story the other day about appreciating second chances (as long as you've grown)!!!

But most importantly. . . you've missed today's story, where she posts about doves being literal divine messengers. Or something. Did you know that it's apparently impossible to love and grieve at the same time? Sure we all know that when someone you love dies, you IMMEDIATELY stop loving them so you can grieve them instead. That's just logical.

Stupidest. Fucking. Woman. Alive.

R543 Yeah last like was on the slightly better pic of her two ‘low budget porn bikini shots’ from Mexico, which she posted in mid May. Here’s hoping Benny Boy has seen the light of reason (rather than the sparkles).

Oh god, what drivel is this she’s spouting now? Someone please make her disappear in a puff of sparkly smoke.

R544 Oh do please look at all three. Otherwise how will you know you're always full of light?!

R545 Well that’s just totally ruined my evening. How can this vapid twat possibly have 4.9m followers? (well actually we know she doesn’t because she bought them, I know)

BBG posting photos of Ben’s parents on her IG story!!!! That’s intrusive and highly hypocritical when she takes the moral high ground all the time going on about his privacy.

Yeah - you can Google the pix but even so..... does she consider herself one of the family or something??!! I think she really does you know....

Hey, just cos you managed to stay under the radar for a while on his brother’s private IG before being removed doesn’t count, dear.

Is anyone calling her out on it?

Probably not!!!!!

R548 Cindy's in love silly! That means it doesn't count in any way!!

Carte blanche for cult members.

After his last Friends cover video, I’m starting to believe he did have help from JH to film that poem for his followers — his phone camera quality is not as good as the video quality for that poem. He even said himself during the interview at R444 that his is an older iPhone.

Why doesn't he look as good now in that Netflix show as he did in that Julianne Moore witch/dragon movie?

He looks so... different now.

The passage of nearly 9 years since that shitshow was filmed? The beard?

He didn't even look good in Seventh Son. I thought the ridiculous Bieber hairstyle on his medieval character was one of the worst things about that movie, and that's really saying something. That and his "medieval hoodie."

As I stated earlier in the week, Ben's face now looks like it has the legendary DL "fillers," or something. It looks bizarre.

The beard is fine (except for the dye) but the face looks very off.

Ben was beautiful in SEVENTH SON!

R551 You can rest assured it wasn’t the Ho. I noticed at the time he thanked some guy for taking the video - definitely not her!

JH cannot just sit in one place, which is ironic since she is meditating and selling wellness. She can’t just be in her million dollar mansion? Any likes from BB on the new selfie? Since that is all he seems to like. Can this JH phase be officially done, which I feel like it may be. Won’t be convinced until BB stops following her or her next pap walk with a new guy. I’m ready for the very poorly written, oversung, original music from BB chapter to begin, hopefully he can find a new love, where he is stuck in YA fan fiction for the rest of his career.

R556 Still no like for the selfie from 2 days ago, no. I’m hoping it’s all over too, sick fed up of her.

Omg yay! Season 2!!

R558 Is it wrong that I read that quickly and saw, "oh my gay! Season 2!!"

Yeah I'll see myself out..

Though apparently they're already finished writing season 2, so when do we think Benny'll be back in Budapest?

Not for a few months I’d guess. Last time they started filming in October. Not sure it would be that late this time but apart from all the preliminary work they’ll need to do, there’s covid to take into account.

Oh but yeah, that doesn’t bother some folks of course.

Yeah, King Benji makes his own Covid rules. Prick.

Ha does anyone even care about this announcement? Video on twitter has almost 300,000 views, the netflix YouTube announcement has a little over 100,000 views. Those are dismal numbers. It has been a good 6 hours. Weird it took this long to announce, wonder what is happening behind the scenes there. I will be surprised if this goes longer than a second season. I’m sure BB can’t wait to go sit in freezing Budapest by himself while they shoot a whole show where he is in like four episodes. Watch they shoot in Canada and just green screen everything. They did do those reshoots in Vancouver.

R560 Of course we're all just guessing, but Eric the Showrunner said Netflix told them to start (and finish) writing the second season way back in *January* so that if/when they got a second season, "they could hit the ground running."

I don't pretend to know how long the average pre-production period is, nor especially do I pretend to know how long it is for a flagship, special effects laden fantasy show with huge elaborate practical sets. But Eric's comments make me think Netflix wants this done ASAP. And recall I asked upthread if Ben already knew when production was starting and therefore knew he wouldn't be able to fit in that RomCom he was interested in? Admittedly it would be weird to look for something else *at all* if you knew the second season was coming up really quickly, but we all know how utterly desperate Ben Barnes is. So I guess *shrug*?

R562 Can't comment on those view numbers you listed, but Netflix released their numbers this weekend. S&B was the eighth best show they've *ever* had. And the rotten tomato score is still in the nineties. Empirically speaking, the show is undeniably popular.

I thought Netflix didn’t release numbers? That’s their whole bag, is you don’t really know ratings and what not because good luck getting anything out of them. Didn’t they just cancel a bunch of popular shows and people are pissed? There are many things that are consumed, but they are still utter garbage. Popularity in our current culture doesn’t mean shit, everything can and is manipulated.

Wonder why it’s only 8 episodes again and not 10 or 13. The show runner is saying he has enough material for six seasons and a movie, you would think there would be more episodes. Maybe money? Netflix only sees it as a worthy investment for 8. BB eluded it still needs to written and prepped. Which means these six months they have not been doing that? If it is in the top shows of all time wouldn’t they want to throw more money at it, I mean Netflix has it.

R564 Here's just one reference I can find quickly. There are others, including the one referencing the "#8 of all time" quote I saw this afternoon. . . .

I'm not making any comments on quality or lack thereof. I'm only talking about the (supposedly) raw data that were released this weekend. It was a very well-watched show ratings wise according to those data. That's all!

R565 Eric the Showrunner said for the first season Netflix told them this is your budget period. You can either use it to cheapen production value but get 10 episodes, or make the production value as grandiose and immersive as possible, but only be able to pay for 8 episodes. Eric chose the latter. I obviously can't comment on the second season other than the obvious just keep the same thing, that worked really well the first time, going.

Also, Eric and the rest of the writers said they completely finished writing last month after starting in January. So Ben's just being his usual uninformed idiot self I'd reckon. *sigh* Best part is, I learned that the writers completely finished already From. The. Tweets. Ben. Himself. Liked.

Idiot.

R566 girl you spicy, with your that’s all and all that. It’s not that serious. In five years no one will be talking about or remember this show. R567 BB is an idiot, he has even called himself that.

Can we talk about how that new pic of BB and Jessie is creepy? If they were fucking irl than done. BB is done.

Every behind the scenes pic I've seen of them is creepy. She looks at him the way BBG does.

R569 R570 Well clearly you two haven't been looking at the commentary in Ben's tagged pics, as you're obviously both absolutely wrong.

*sigh*

R571 Ok, ok, I'm wrong! What I REALLY meant to say was, all the pics I see of them together look like adorable scenes from a Father-Daughter Dance at school! SQUEEEEEEE

Someone on Tumblr said she dumped her bf before she went to film season one, so maybe they were fucking. Apparently he'll bang anything with a heartbeat and likes 'em young. And I thought we had established that he is a complete piece of shit?

R572 Oh. Oh Syl. That's cold man..

*grin*

R573 While I totally hear what you’re saying, tbh I don’t get that vibe off him in relation to her. All her piercings and nose rings and big clumpy shoes? Don’t see him going for that even for a quick fuck. And Netflix have got them pushing the Darklina thing big time but he’s not even really invested in that. He let slip in one of the interminable promos that he thought she should end up with the other guy. Oops.

Also, have a closer look at his one visible eye in this photo - he’s looking at her like she’s a specimen on a lab slide.

And Tumblr might say she dumped her bf before filming but one thing on YouTube - which was accurate in all other relationships - said she had a live-in boyfriend, which sounds pretty serious. She might of course have dumped him in anticipation of getting with her childhood crush but personally I think she was destined to be disappointed in that respect.

He sort of resembles a praying mantis in that most recent pic. Or vulture Snoopy.

Sooooo question. . . .

Should we be concerned at the rather unbelievable amount of makeup on this ten year old girl? What exactly is the point? Cause I've heard tale that adult women wear makeup in order to look sexier and more attractive to potential mates. Why does a ten year old need any at all, much less this abhorrent amount?

I've got news for you "Jules.." What your ten year old self needed to hear was your parents weren't giving you unconditional love here. What they were actually likely doing is causing irredeemable and irreparable damage to their CHILD. It actually helps explain so much of you now. Do please consider that the next time you feel proud of these pictures and decide to share them with other impressionable "girls" out there.

(Oh but don't worry guys, Ben liked this post. The first one he's done in *many* weeks.)

I didn't know that JH had a Jon-Benet Ramsey childhood. But it still doesn't make me feel sorry for her.

R577 R578 Me neither, but it does explain a lot. Been ‘performing’ since she was a young kid, plastered in makeup and fake stuff - yeah.

Brooks liked it too so he’s playing the “like the ex’s pix’ game along with BB. Both recognising that she needs serious therapy in my opinion.

“Stop treating talent like it is synonymous with character” 🙌🏻 This right here

Both BB and JH they are not good people. I wouldn’t even say they are talented. BB isn’t winning awards over there with his acting work.

I don’t understand why JH is getting her ex’s and fuck buddies to like her shit. That game didn’t work a year ago and it isn’t working now. It just makes people hate her more. She never gained back those insta followers she lost, although I’m sure she bought some. BB had his and his brothers and his brothers girlfriend and his mamas private life all over the Internet as a result of their bullshit.

I just don’t get it. BB the hate increases when you like her shit. Why does he not get that?

Oh because he is the victim, just like JH is the victim. Fuck off with these fucking boring ass, untalented, old white people. Can we raise up people who are worthy. Stop allowing these twats to think they are better than the rest.

So JH is being all guru preachy now on her insta stories. No one wants to learn anything from you. Just listening to her voice is annoying enough, stop telling me how many hugs I need in a day. What if I’m alone in the world? What if I have no one to hug? Great just push me further into that depression hole, thanks JH really saving the masses.

Also BB did you not hug her enough during the pandemic? Like what a shitty boyfriend move. Or maybe you are just boring and not ripped enough. Or rich enough.

The tabs are full of stories today about Seacrest and his new 26 year old girlfriend. So much for the JH is back with Ryan rumor.

Also, do we think Benji hired an IG consultant when he bought followers, or is he truly pathetic enough to be watching his account like a hawk for any negative or critical posts about him?

R582 Ohhhhhh so that's why he started liking her posts again (including today's)!!! If she actually isn't with someone else then he doesn't have to worry about being the respectful ex-boyfriend he prides himself on portraying. I mean it is that right? Not something far more pathetic and ego driven, right???

BTW, I'm assuming that's not the HoSister that infamously unfollowed him, right? I mean surely he's not trying the pathetic puppy routine again to get this sister to like him, right? Exactly like he did with Nina and Shawn, right???

R583 Oh it is HIGHLY likely that his cult of fangirls literally have nothing better to do and watch his account like a hawk for him. They just spam message him like crazy whenever something naughty pops up. He doesn't ever have to hire or pay ANYONE. His fangirls LOVE him and will dedicate anything to do ANYTHING for him.

Silly.

He's even alluded to the possibility in last month's interviews saying, "Yeah they're always looking out for me.."

I think the two recent likes from him are more out of pity. After all, the first pic of hers he’d liked for ages was that hideous “poor little 10yo me” post. Even Brooks liked that one!!! She probably managed to lie her way out of the ‘di Caprio files’ thing recently because she knew BB would freak when his name got mentioned.

So yeah, pity party for Jules I think.

If anyone cares to read the whole thing, this is actually a pretty well written little piece on The Darkling. Well except for that one bit where the author questions how any of his fans could romanticize his actions and ship him. The utterly obvious answer, is because this story is written for CHILDREN. And surely by 2021 everyone knows that little girls love and romanticize bad boys, no? At least the author admits the *major* danger lies in the fact that the character is described as beautiful and young looking and seductive (SOUND FAMILIAR?!?!?!?). And if he was old or unattractive there would be no question he wasn't "morally grey" (SOUND FAMILIAR?!?!?!?). Oh and the article even references a later book where The Darkling gets a literal cult that justifies all his actions. SOUND FAMIL. . . alright, you get the drill.

Also curious are the first couple comments which reference the original origin story and childhood of the character that the show chose *not* to use. Apparently these commenters feel the original backstory justifies The Darkling's status as morally grey, not the villain. Cause hey why not..

R581 Oh sweetie The Ho solved your problem in her post, didn't you see? You just grab people and keep kissing them, even when they keep rejecting your actions by, "wiping away your kisses" because that rejection should only serve as fuel to, "make you want to kiss them even more!!!" It's all about what you want and need after all, not them!

You don't ever have to worry about personal boundaries. You don't ever have to worry about consent. Just grab random people whenever you want a hug (or something more, if you know what I'm sayin'). If they reject you, or say no, or say stop, or anything else, it should make you want to do it even more! The HoughMONSTER said so.

R587 "He had posed as the good guy, aloof and unreachable, sharing a mixture of secrets and lies to gain her trust. "

Gee, life imitating art again.

I guess it is a good thing if he is or isn’t liking post based on rumors. That means they aren’t talking and he doesn’t really know what is going on in her life.

The fact that he is still supporting her makes no sense. He doesn’t have a show to sell, so just stop. She doesn’t want you! Even if she is telling you that in private, because she is manipulative, like she was more than willing to be seen with her ex husband than with you.

Also yeah the boundaries thing with her sister, once again this family is so weird. I was more distracted by the plastic face if anything. Fakey people all of them. Even her mom.

R590 Well there is the possibility that 'likes = potential pity fucks' from all his currently single exes. That's why he stops liking their stuff when either they or he is with someone new. Why waste the effort if it won't get you anything in return?

He's already liked The Ho's new post from today. That's three in a row VERY quick likes for anyone keeping track. After just about a month of nothing.

Awww yes I forgot BB only invests in people when he can get something out them. If it doesn’t benefit him in any way then why bother? Building genuine relationships with people who cannot help you get money or be famous, why would you do that? Especially after a global pandemic.

R591 Yeah, I noticed that. I wasn’t even really sure at first if the pic was her or her sister, they’re scarily interchangeable, but as the loyal puppy liked it, I guess it’s the HoMonster. She looks like a fright witch in the second pic.

She also shared a pic of her unattractive legs and even more unattractive feet (hideous!) on her story. We really don’t need to see that shit, dear.

I think his ‘ex likes’ are just ‘see what a nice guy I am, I stay friends with my exes’ thing. Yeah, maybe seeing if he picks up any interest from them too, who knows? But I seem to remember him liking the occasional Rayana post even when she was seeing someone, I could be wrong. We can’t track those any longer due to his inactive private IG. Always wondered why he kept her on that account but maybe too confrontational for him to unfollow her (also maybe some guilt about ghosting and/or dropping her like a hot potato which he seems to have done).

Would love to know if he’s got a new private IG! But doubt it would be easy to track down now, as he sure as hell won’t keep Marty as his username any longer.

R593 PS forgot to say, R591 - really feel that the 3 recent likes are down to the pathetic ‘10yo little me’ post. As mentioned even BL liked that one. Tugging at those heartstrings, huh JH? Don’t forget, this is a master manipulator we’re dealing with here.

I found his private insta through his brothers gf. She was following Marty and it was obvious from the pic of the sunset who it was. He really did not hide it well. I would look to the outliers and see if anything new has sprung up.

R595 Hahaha yes not exactly that secret!!! Thanks, I’ll maybe have a look sometime.

Oh, Sylvia, darling. Time for a new thread. Are you?

Somebody else can make one if they want. If all there is to discuss is S&B and JH, two topics that don't deserve the time of day, then I feel like bowing out for now.

(Unless it came to light that he was still WITH JH, but it'll never happen)

Work, work, work...

Part XV.