Best Ultra-wealthy Neighborhood in the World
Where is the best neighborhood filled with gorgeous architecture, billionaires and multimillionaires?
Is it Kensington Park? PAC heights or presidio heights? Upper East side? Our-zuid? 6th or 16th arrondissement? Malibu or Bel air?
What’s your dream mansion in these neighborhood? Is there an area with gorgeous architecture, billionaires and multi millionaires that I’m missing?
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 137 | March 31, 2021 4:47 AM
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Not sure if it’s the best but it’s certainly expensive and pretty.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 6 | March 27, 2021 5:51 AM
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San Francisco owns this thread
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 27, 2021 6:51 AM
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Sydney - Lots of posh suburbs, but if I could choose it would be Birchgrove Actually (Sydneysider joke...."I live in Balmain, well, Birchgrove Actually".) It's a small peninsula that runs off the Balmain peninsula right into the heart of the harbour. You could pretty much row to the Opera House and Harbour Bridge.
See below for the Tasteful Friends edition
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 9 | March 27, 2021 7:07 AM
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Dahlem or one of those suburbs on the lakes surrounding Berlin. Posh yet so comfy. The Germans must have a word for it.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 27, 2021 7:31 AM
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I don't understand the categories. You want cities? Or neighborhoods in cities only? Not suburbs? Not small towns? I mean really.
Mayfair in London is filled with ultra-wealthy people. I lived with a billionaire family in their townhouse a few months a year. Very civilized quiet neighborhood and lovely in the summer. London has wonderful summer weather. IT IS NOT HOT.
The hills above Cannes are filled with billionaires. I prefer it to LA's enclaves, where people are less rich, too. Hamptons is amazing for the extreme displays, if you truly with the ultra-rich.
One of the wealthiest "neighborhoods" is the tiny suburb of Cologny in tiny Genève. Another nice place in the summer.
Zug is a bore but lovely.
I hate all Dubai but I don't mind ultra luxury Riyadh.
OneOcean Port Vell Barcelona and Port Vauban Antibes are superyacht marinas. In the summer, one could consider the Superyachts of Mediterranean a sort of floating neighborhood and I would consider it the most unusual and among the best experiences of life of the ultra-wealthy.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 27, 2021 7:34 AM
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Sloane Square/Chelsea in London.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 27, 2021 7:35 AM
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R10 Many German cities have outskirt neighborhoods with that luxe/comfy vibe. Blankenese in Hamburg with all those mini estates.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 27, 2021 7:41 AM
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Sydney is just too isolated and cut off from the world, It's like a less sophisticated LA.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 27, 2021 7:44 AM
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@r11 the question is about neighborhoods in cities. So no, not towns, NOT suburbs @r9, not exurbs, but wealthy URBAN neighborhoods as the title says.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 27, 2021 7:52 AM
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R15 It’s nearer to Asia than Europe or America
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 27, 2021 7:53 AM
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I'm American but I think London is really the center of the world. It's a fantastic city and in the center of everything. Travel is amazing and inexpensive.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 27, 2021 8:03 AM
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Honolulu is a gay paradise.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 27, 2021 8:15 AM
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R1 and R6 both answered with Kensington Palace Gardens, a half-life long stretch lined with billionaires' houses. The street is private and gated, open only to pass holder cars and Harrods' and other liveried carriages, delivering bags of pistachios or whatever it is that they deliver. Pedestrians and cyclists can can pass through, however. For it's clear devotion and obvious wealth, it's the first example I thought of as well.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 21 | March 27, 2021 8:37 AM
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I’ve lived in Paris, London, and HK, and of the three cities I’d say the one with the most amenities for UHNW individuals is London. The entire city is their playground, not just the WC and SW postcodes. Even as a comfortably well off, upper middle class professional going about his daily life in London, you are constantly reminded of the extreme wealth around you and the inevitable feelings of inadequacy ensues. Not so much in Paris, and strangely enough, not so much in HK either.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 27, 2021 10:33 AM
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LA is the outlier here as the city's wealthiest neighborhoods (Bel Air, Brentwood, Beverly Hills) are all decidedly suburban in feel,.
And Malibu, which our confused OP mentioned, is not part of LA proper
But hard to compare that to Paris, London or Manhattan
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 27, 2021 12:48 PM
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Coziness a big deal to Germans
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 26 | March 27, 2021 12:52 PM
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Our r24 forgot that Beverly Hills is not part of LA proper.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 27, 2021 12:53 PM
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Dubai should be on that list, but I know is "too modern" for DL refined taste.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 27, 2021 1:02 PM
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London is best if you want a townhouse.
Paris is best if you want a grand apartment.
New York is best if you want a penthouse.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 27, 2021 1:10 PM
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Not super rich by any means, quite the opposite, but Buffalo has some of the best residential architecture out there. Take a look at the Buffalo House Porn for amazing interiors.
And this blog for great exteriors.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 30 | March 27, 2021 4:00 PM
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[quote] Dubai should be on that list, but I know is "too modern" for DL refined taste.
Show us a neighbourhood in Dubai that looks anything like Kensington and maybe we’ll consider it.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 27, 2021 4:07 PM
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I think Ultra Wealthy implies Old Money and not things like tech CEO and Arab oil tycoons.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 27, 2021 4:11 PM
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Yes R27, BH is not a part of the city of LA, but it's located in the heart of the west side and that flats is even semi-urban, while Malibu is a beach resort that is a good hour drive from the main part of the city.
(But you knew that.)
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 27, 2021 4:14 PM
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Sea Cliff in San Francisco
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 27, 2021 4:15 PM
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R32 ultra wealthy does not imply old money. There is old money and new money in the ultra wealthy.
Oil money is old money by the way, including the mid-east princelings. That is now old money.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 27, 2021 4:22 PM
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Ah yes, the great cities of the world.
London ... Paris ... Rome ... Buffalo .... BUFFALO?
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 27, 2021 4:24 PM
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Not too long ago UES would be considered as "the" most ultra-wealthy neighborhood. My how the mighty have fallen.
(UES = Upper East Side, New York City)
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 27, 2021 4:34 PM
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I’m an outlier - I think LA ultra wealthy neighborhoods are the best. When I think of a place to live for $30 million, LA offers the most luxuriously decadent housing available. NY, London, Paris and SF are all variations of the high end townhome. And in London and SF, you are probably using a car to get around anyway - whether Regents Park or Pac Heights, the truly luxurious $30mm houses tend to be standalone outlying houses. Even in denser public transit oriented cities like NY and Paris, a billionaire likely uses a driver. The sheer luxury of housing, ideal climate and beauty of ocean and hills out every window makes LAs best housing superior IMO.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 27, 2021 4:37 PM
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R38 Yep, it used to be the richest zipcode in the US... I think it's been replaced by places like Atherton in the Silicon Valley. Pacific Heights is how R39 describes it, but on the Peninsula - Atherton, Menlo Park, Los Altos Hills... there are some tasteful, beautiful estates. Lots of them.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 27, 2021 4:42 PM
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Has nobody learned anything in the last 20 years about the super rich? All of these people are awful and they exist to the detriment of the society so by virtue of the wealth requirements of living in one of these areas, they are all inherently trash. The worst kind of trash. And gushing over them is just so intellectually bereft (R21 is the best example of this), and shows a real lack of understanding of real beauty. Real achievements in beauty are improved when there is an acknowledgment of constraints, doing something pretty when you have an unlimited budget just isn’t very impressive.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 27, 2021 4:55 PM
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That's funny because in Philadelphia, the neighborhood Kensington is infamous for being horrible and is the heroine capital of THE WORLD
THE WORLD!
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 27, 2021 5:00 PM
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I am with you R39 on LA, but that's because if limited to a single house in a single location, the suburban style house on an acre or two that I would have in LA would be fare nicer than apartments and townhouses elsewhere, if for no other reason that it I could use the outdoor space most of the year.
I do suspect this will quickly turn into one of the many, many, many, many, many, many, many DL threads where Flyoverstani shopbottoms and interior decorators harangue each other over "old money" and "new money", as defined by black and white movies they've seen on TMC, the Preppy Handbook and other detritus of the mid-20th century without any vague acknowledgement that we are currently two decades into the 21st century.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 27, 2021 5:03 PM
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Looking at the original story linked to in the article, I think we can all agree it is not Los Altos
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 27, 2021 5:04 PM
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R42 You have a point but it's narrow. Many of the .001% may be trash and create trashy luxury. OP only asked about "gorgeousness". In a Robin Leach kind of way. There is room to get a kick out of that kind of display. The Azzam is both vulgar and immoral AND sublime, an engineering marvel, and offers a lifestyle that is dreamlike. You people with your binaries - a person or creation can be only one thing. LE SNORE
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 47 | March 27, 2021 5:06 PM
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R43 Female superheroes come from there?
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 27, 2021 5:16 PM
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Nothing beats the UES for me. 60th-96, 5th-Lex. Stunning.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 27, 2021 5:18 PM
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R44 enjoyed your comment.
R47 we’re talking about wealthy neighbourhoods not follies. Follies I can appreciate in their uniqueness and ‘hero quality’ if it applies but that’s not what’s in discussion. I agree with you re the yacht. But that’s outside the parameters. OP asked about what is the best neighborhood ‘filled with gorgeous architecture, billionaires and millionaires’ as if a person possessing enormous wealth has an inherent value to it that is in some way aspirational in relation to objective beauty. And it’s not. That way of thinking is (or should be) a relic of the past. Capiche?
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 27, 2021 5:19 PM
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Hey don't forget about me...
10 Richest Towns In The U.S.
November 26, 2020 • Page 2 of 12
9. Winnetka, Ill.
$353,700
This village sits on the shore of Lake Michigan, just 17 miles north of Chicago. Its website lauds the tree-lined streets, sandy beaches and well-regarded schools in Winnetka—a name derived from a Native American phrase believed to mean “beautiful land.” The Chicago Tribune says downtown Winnetka has aspects that mimic New York’s Hamptons, but without the celebrities.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 53 | March 27, 2021 5:22 PM
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Mansions behind gates is not a 'neighborhood' in my opinion. I don't find many extremely wealthy areas very appealing because there is so little interaction among its residents or street life.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 27, 2021 5:23 PM
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Downtown Zurich, especially Bahnhofstrasse.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 27, 2021 5:24 PM
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No one's mentioned Fisher Island in Miami, which is cited in OP's article and with good reason.
I'm very familiar with it as my great-aunt and uncle lived there for many years, first part-time and then full-time.
There's nothing wrong with it per se, but it's a planned condo community and looks like many other planned condo communities in South Florida, albeit with water views from most apartments and a lot more amenities along with the security features of a private island that is no accessible to outsiders. Unless it's changed, the deal was you could only get there by boat or helicopter--there are no roads--and there's a ferry you can take your car on, but you need to either live there or you need to show proof that someone has invited you there (IIRC, they had to put your name on some sort of list.)
The residents are mostly affluent retired Jews from the Northeast and affluent South Americans who like having a place in Miami "just in case." Plus Russians who are also investing in Miami. Meaning there aren't a whole lot of full time residents and the vibe is more resort hotel than neighborhood.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 27, 2021 5:30 PM
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R54 I think that's the clarification. So places like Greenwich, CT, the Hamptons, or anyplace in CA other than Pacific Heights - and any number of posh suburbs - are disqualified from this conversation.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 27, 2021 5:32 PM
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OP made the mistake of not matching the poll they posted to the article, hence the confusion.
Though the article, which randomly includes Fishers Island (Miami) and the very suburban Los Altos is intended to be clickbait, not an actual well thought out article.
To wit, it describes Los Altos as being "on the border of San Francisco and the edge of Silicon Valley" which is untrue on both accounts: Los Altos is midway down the peninsula, so nowhere near the "border" of San Francisco and it's the heart of Silicon Valley (it borders on Palo Alto, Cupertino and Sunnyvale) not the "edge".
But as noted the author is likely someone is a developing country with non-native English skills who is paid $20 US to crank out clickbait articles like these.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 58 | March 27, 2021 5:40 PM
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Bradbury, CA. (I'll bet most of you have never heard of it.)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 59 | March 27, 2021 5:45 PM
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[quote] That's funny because in Philadelphia, the neighborhood Kensington is infamous for being horrible and is the heroine capital of THE WORLD
Which heroine? Joan of Arc? Amelia Earhart? Martina Navratilova? Liza Minnelli? Miyoshi Umeki? Marie Curie?
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 27, 2021 5:48 PM
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Yes - Silicon Valley always wins richest. But honestly, would anyone CHOOSE to live there if they didn’t have to work in tech? It’s such an odd anomaly - purely driven by where Silicon Valley happened to start. Sure, Atherton, Los Altos Hills, etc are nice - but they are not world class neighborhoods like Pac Heights, Bel Air, UES, Belgravia. If one thinks of living a fantasy rich life without encumbrance, Silicon Valley would not be on the list.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 27, 2021 5:50 PM
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I’d say London.
This thread has turned into a pissing contest.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 27, 2021 5:54 PM
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I didn't even know there was a neighbourhood like that in Amsterdam ( though I've been there several times). It seems rather un-Dutch.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 27, 2021 5:55 PM
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I get the impression r22 hasn't seen much of London.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 27, 2021 5:57 PM
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[quote]in Philadelphia, the neighborhood Kensington is infamous for being horrible and is the heroine capital of THE WORLD
[quote]Which heroine? Joan of Arc? Amelia Earhart? Martina Navratilova? Liza Minnelli? Miyoshi Umeki? Marie Curie?
r43 r60 Lily, the heroine of CBS' [italic]Cold Case[/italic] , grew up in Philadelphia's Kensington neighborhood.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 27, 2021 5:59 PM
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[quote] the heroine capital of THE WORLD
Sorry but I’m pretty sure Paradise Island takes that prize
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 66 | March 27, 2021 6:03 PM
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[quote] LA is the outlier here as the city's wealthiest neighborhoods (Bel Air, Brentwood, Beverly Hills) are all decidedly suburban in feel.
I grew up in this area, which are 3 communities next to each other. They are beautiful and the weather is great, but it's nothing like being in a proper city like London. In London, when you are UHNWI there is really amazing dining, shopping, art, trips. That's really what you do in London - shop, eat, drink, and travel.
Whoever said Sea Cliff is SF as a fantastic spot is spot on. It's absolutely gorgeous, although freezing most of the year. Though beautiful, it's similar to the 3 B's of LA - somewhat isolated and a but suburban feeling while still being 7 minutes from Pacific Heights.
I think we have to distill it further from urban/city living vs. just gorgeous suburbs.
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 27, 2021 6:04 PM
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Shepherd’s Bush.
Regarding Greenwich, CT. There are different parts of Greenwich. Cos Cob, Old Greenwich, Riverside, Mianus, Byram. Out of those which is the best?
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 27, 2021 6:06 PM
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R61 Stanford, wealth, history... there's a lot of possible reasons to desire to live on the Peninsula before the latest tech waves of wealth hit it. No World Class Neighborhood with historic wealth? Hillsborough? But as we've agreed, the search on this thread is NOT where the wealthy live, but rather an Urban Neighborhood for the ultra-wealthy. I'd even exclude Pacific Heights (how many residents walk from their houses to an urban setting? ). I think Paris, 16th, is probably the winner.
Hillsborough, for reference.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 69 | March 27, 2021 6:08 PM
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Shepherd's Bush has some sketchy areas. You would probably want to be in Holland Park (shout out to Edina Monsoon), which is right next to SB, but has a more grand feel.
In London, you never want to be on the other side of the Thames. SW3 and W1-8 are the best post codes. Add in some of the North London areas but they still don't have the prestige of an SW1-3
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 27, 2021 6:10 PM
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The other question is what are the metrics to these neighborhoods. Are we talking garish displays of wealth found in the middle east like Dubai, suburban-esque communities of SoCal, wealthy small towns like Greenwich? Summer spots like Hamptons, Kennebunkport, Martha's Vineyard, Marbella.
Is Monte Carlo the richest in the world?
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 27, 2021 6:14 PM
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Lol shepherd’s bush is gross
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 27, 2021 6:15 PM
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In the US, in terms of wealthy communities outside of a major city or suburb, but perhaps a commuter city, the prestige of the country club at the center of it and the houses that dot those courses. Those are usually the wealthiest neighborhoods. Look at the most prestigious country clubs with waiting lists in the US and those will be the most exclusive neighborhoods. There are also some beautiful "resort: neighborhoods where there is a resort in the center that is has clubs, dining, etc and the homes that surround that.
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 27, 2021 6:24 PM
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R73 That's the pic you see in a dictionary when looking up "déclassé"
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 27, 2021 6:25 PM
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R59 is a great example of these sorts of clickbait articles.
HowStuffWorks is sort of known for that -- have someone in Bangladesh pull together some random research and add links to photos and with the right title "10 Most Expensive Zip Codes To Live In" it will get a lot of clicks and make them a lot of ad revenue.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | March 27, 2021 6:27 PM
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I forgot. In terms of neighborhoods in Greenwich, Belle Haven. Diana Ross lives, or used to live there. Paul Tudor Jones, the hedge fund guy has a house there. Beautiful place.
by Anonymous | reply 77 | March 27, 2021 6:28 PM
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If there is a country club, it is likely just rich not UHNW. Maybe Holmby Hills or Bel Air are near one but in general golf is quickly becoming a dated, irrelevant game - played by wealthy old men who worked in professional fields. Yes, CC are the “nice areas” of suburban areas, but neither urban or UHNW.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | March 27, 2021 6:29 PM
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If there is a country club R78, it means it's in a suburban area, not an urban one, Los Angeles being the exception and said country clubs date back around 100 years and members don't necessarily live in the area.
Or are you talking about Flyoverstani Gated Communities where the existence of a "country club" (e.g. a golf course with a restaurant) is designed to assure the residents of the The Estates At Pheasant Grove that yes, they've made it.
by Anonymous | reply 79 | March 27, 2021 6:34 PM
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"[R73] That's the pic you see in a dictionary when looking up "déclassé" "
It's Russia, if it weren't for "déclassé" there'd be no class at all
by Anonymous | reply 80 | March 27, 2021 7:03 PM
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I think Parnassus heights in SF is even better than PAC heights. Much more understated with beautiful views and a gorgeous park.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 81 | March 27, 2021 7:42 PM
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The Dutch historical wealth really shines through
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 84 | March 27, 2021 7:50 PM
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^ Stop with the google, you don't know how to do it
by Anonymous | reply 85 | March 27, 2021 7:57 PM
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Does the southern U.S. not have any rich people?
by Anonymous | reply 87 | March 27, 2021 8:34 PM
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R77 Belle Haven pretty much, so few places can also boast being the locale of a Kennedy Murderer scene, which is a cache you just can’t buy everywhere.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 88 | March 27, 2021 8:43 PM
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The best ultra wealthy neighborhoods have access to peerless amenities and ultra high end shopping. The singing waiters at Max's Opera Café in the Stanford Shopping Center do not qualify.
by Anonymous | reply 89 | March 27, 2021 8:54 PM
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[quote] access to peerless amenities and ultra high end shopping.
Why do so many DL posts sound like pretentious ad copy?
by Anonymous | reply 90 | March 27, 2021 9:03 PM
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"Does the southern U.S. not have any rich people? "
Florida and Texas are pretty rich
by Anonymous | reply 91 | March 27, 2021 9:06 PM
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Houston people here? What about that neighborhood where Bush Sr retired?
by Anonymous | reply 92 | March 27, 2021 9:11 PM
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Past Holmby Hills resident . Had Michael Milkin with his 150 mil spread across the street and the Pritzkes with their at least 200 million spread in back of us.
by Anonymous | reply 93 | March 27, 2021 9:16 PM
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Buckhead in Atlanta is quite fancy
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 94 | March 27, 2021 9:17 PM
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Golf has not become passe at all. It's a game that can be played both young and old. You will find many UHNWI play golf and learn from a young age. It's a way to socialize and do business. You can hear many tech bros talking about it in an SF club as you can in Greenwich. This is where old money vs. new money come into play. In LA you have Bel Air, Riviera (Palisades), Brentwood. Social clubs are always part of wealth and I don't mean Soho House. The Bohemian Club/SF, Jonathan Club/LA, The University Club in NYC which requires coat and tie in public areas. You have to use the servers steps if you are in street clothes and go directly to your room. I think ultra wealthy means something different to each person, but there is a certain standard that I consider UHNW which is basically the 1% of the 1%.
by Anonymous | reply 95 | March 27, 2021 9:26 PM
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It's funny R95, but we don't give nearly the amount of thought to you as you give to us.
Nor do we show off on message boards by using a somewhat obscure acronym common in the financial industry to impress a bunch of sales clerks and hairdressers.
by Anonymous | reply 96 | March 27, 2021 9:43 PM
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R92 River Oaks is Houston's most wealthy neighborhood. Bush Sr actually lived at the Houstonian which is more Post Oak/Galleria area and not River Oaks.
by Anonymous | reply 97 | March 27, 2021 9:50 PM
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I do love Amsterdam’s wealthy district - the inner canal belt. But it is definitely not a global UHNWI destination. More like Beacon Hill or Society Hill - beautiful historic architecture mainly inhabited by local wealth.
by Anonymous | reply 98 | March 27, 2021 10:05 PM
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Recoleta, Buenoa Aires
Camps Bay, Cape Town
Leblon, Rio de Janeiro
Rublevka, Moscow
Salamanca, Madrid
Bloemendaal, the Netherlands
by Anonymous | reply 99 | March 27, 2021 10:13 PM
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R11 You hate Dubai but don't mind Riyadh ?!
Denenchofu, Tokyo comes with an European touch in a Japanese size.
by Anonymous | reply 100 | March 27, 2021 10:18 PM
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Thread quickly devolving into Dataloungers ticking off the affluent districts of cities around the world to.... what? Prove that they are aware of them? Give some props to their hometown?
by Anonymous | reply 101 | March 27, 2021 10:20 PM
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WTF did you expect, twat R101?
by Anonymous | reply 102 | March 27, 2021 10:22 PM
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[quote] ultra high end shopping
Make it stop! Cringetastic
by Anonymous | reply 103 | March 27, 2021 10:27 PM
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Pac heights is unparalleled when it comes to combining urban layouts with mega mansions. I can’t think of another city that has such a large swath of uninterrupted urban palaces. Presidio heights is similar but feels a little quieter. Sea cliff feels like a suburb even though it’s in a bustling neighborhood.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 105 | March 27, 2021 10:51 PM
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Aesthetically not too pleasing, R107
Bit cramped.
by Anonymous | reply 108 | March 27, 2021 10:56 PM
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Sydney seems nice. SF is too cold and not sure why people pay to live here. I am in SF and I dislike the chilly weather. LA is probably better, as it is year-round warm. Any city in the cold north is not worth it, as more than half the year is cold. If I were rich, I would choose the Caribbean islands or Florida or Brisbane or Perth which are warm and nice. Of course, I would love to live in free liberal democracies and not communist or semi-democratic countries where there are no judicial restraints on government taking one's wealth.
by Anonymous | reply 109 | March 27, 2021 10:58 PM
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Palm Beach FL @ Mar-a-Lago with Trump & me.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 110 | March 27, 2021 11:07 PM
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River Oaks is the splashy rich neighborhood in Houston. Shadyside in the Museum District, just north of Rice, might be richer, it's certainly quieter; its streets are private. The Hobbys live there as does former Governor Mark White. The Senior Bushes lived in Tanglewood, which is very nice, a bit outside the loop.
by Anonymous | reply 111 | March 28, 2021 1:39 AM
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While its inhabitants are nowhere near as wealthy as those cited elsewhere I have never seen an urban neighborhood more charming than Boston's Beacon Hill. It's intimate without being labyrinthine; the colors and materials work together beautifully - and it looks equally elegant in every season.
by Anonymous | reply 112 | March 28, 2021 2:32 AM
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Definitely not London (Kensington) - cold, stiff, overpriced, shitty weather, extreme partying, and tons of empty mansions owned by Arab oil barons. If time machines existed, San Francisco(Seacliff, Knob Hill, Atherton, etc) before the tech bros and extreme homelessness descended on the area is the winner. NYC area has some nice enclaves but nothing beats the weather in the bay area.
by Anonymous | reply 113 | March 28, 2021 3:38 AM
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@r113 I don’t think the mega wealthy people who live in those areas you list ever need to see homeless blight. There are no homeless anywhere near atherton. Sea Cliff and PAC heights don’t get any homeless people because one is on the edge of the city literally on a cliff, and the other is up a hill. Also, there’s still more “old money” than there are tech bros in pac heights, presidio heights and even sea cliff. I agree that San Francisco definitely takes the cake, huge areas of the region are built by and for the very wealthy. Where else do billionaires have the option to own in a world class wine country (Napa/Sonoma), the beach (half moon bay/Stinson beach/Santa Cruz), city (San Francisco/Piedmont), suburbs (atherton/ Ross/ tiburon/ Hillsborough), sunny islands (Belvedere), Italian stile hill communities (Sausalito), horse country (woodside, Petaluma, bodega bay, Sonoma), or acres of open estate land (redwood (think Neil young’s estate))? There’s modern architecture, old money palatial mansions, mid century craftsmen, Victorian, and basically any architectural style a super rich person could dream of.
by Anonymous | reply 114 | March 28, 2021 3:53 AM
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R114 LA could give you as much variety, although with its own flavors.
I used to work in Burlingame (the "town" for Hillsborough), and standard practice for the police then when they found a homeless person - take them to CalTrain and buy them ticket, send them to SF.
by Anonymous | reply 115 | March 28, 2021 3:57 AM
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@r115 mmmm, LA has some variety, but nothing near LA compares to the bay areas wine country. France, Italy and Napa are the three most important names in wine, Santa Barbara doesn’t compare. LA also doesn’t have an “urban mansion” option, all the wealthy neighborhoods are suburban/gated. SF also has much better skiing only 2 hours away. The one area LA beats the Bay Area in is beachfront communities because the water and weather is much warmer.
by Anonymous | reply 116 | March 28, 2021 4:09 AM
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The best wealthy enclave in New York is West Village IMO, I like it better than UES or Tribeca.
It's where I would want to buy if I could afford it.
by Anonymous | reply 117 | March 28, 2021 4:39 AM
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[quote] I don’t think the mega wealthy people who live in those areas you list ever need to see homeless blight.
Because they stay at home all the time and never leave their little corner of the city?
Sort of hard to miss otherwise.
by Anonymous | reply 118 | March 28, 2021 4:45 AM
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Homelessness is not a problem for people that are housed. It’s a problem for people that are not housed. I know most of you are old but come on it isn’t the 50s.
by Anonymous | reply 119 | March 28, 2021 5:23 AM
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@r118 idk where you live but I hope it’s not SF, because if so, you have got to venture out of your tiny corner of the city. Travel west of Van ness, north of market, anywhere outside of like four core downtown neighborhoods and you will barely see any “homeless”. The only people who think the city is filled with more homeless than anywhere else are tourists who never leave fisherman’s wharf. Also, homeless people are just people, idk why their existence would be an issue for anyone, especially when homeless people are attracted to the best cities in the world, just like any person. If homeless people are really that much of a deterrent, move to the ‘wealthy’ suburbs of Kansas City or Omaha.
by Anonymous | reply 120 | March 28, 2021 5:56 AM
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Montecito or Santa Ynez valley = Napa Urban mansions? Hancock Park - from houses like this you walk to great restaurants or to buy crack
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 121 | March 28, 2021 5:57 AM
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Ohhhh, noooooo, R36 old money implies owning something veddy tangibly recognizably rich. Like a buggy whip company, or Gimbels or many shares of Proctor & Gamble.
by Anonymous | reply 122 | March 28, 2021 6:27 AM
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@r121 Mintecito/ Santa Ynez are NOT comparable to Napa or Sonoma. Napa, once again, is top three wine regions in the world. The locations you mention are tertiary wine country in California alone, Paso Robles outranks, and it’s just as close to the bay as it is LA. There is no conversation to be had between NorCal and SoCal wine country. Napa is simply on a very different level.
As for Hancock Park, it’s a suburb comparable to suburban enclaves in sf like Saint Francis wood or presidio terrace. It’s not the same as ‘urban mansions’. There is nothing urban about it’s built environment. In fact, LA as a whole is really lacking in urban pedestrian infrastructure and city layout. It’s basically thousands of suburbs amalgamated.
by Anonymous | reply 123 | March 28, 2021 6:47 AM
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Romazzino Hill, Sardinia
Mayfair, London
Chemin De Ruth, Switzerland
by Anonymous | reply 126 | March 28, 2021 7:00 AM
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[quote] Sea cliff feels like a suburb even though it’s in a bustling neighborhood.
IMO, Sea Cliff is not a bustling neighborhood. It’s mid-Richmond District or so. I do like Sea Cliff, though.
by Anonymous | reply 127 | March 28, 2021 7:02 AM
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@r127 that’s true. Clement and Geary are walking distance and definitely count as high streets/thoroughfares, but sea cliff it’s self is sleepy. Basically I was referencing it’s proximity to real city life. It’s more interconnected with the city than, say, Bel Air is with LA.
by Anonymous | reply 128 | March 28, 2021 7:13 AM
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R123 The quality of wine produced is irrelevant to this conversation. Homes in Montecito (or some places in Santa Ynez Valley) are at least as much aligned to the ultra-wealthy neighborhood criteria posited in this thread. But as for "walking" - people in Napa walk, like out to the garage or perhaps to hike.
No, Hancock Park isn't like the UES in terms of urban walking... but from Hancock Park (or even places in Pasadena) one can walk out to restaurants, shops - e.g. Larchmont Village
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 129 | March 28, 2021 4:55 PM
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R114 Carmel, CA might be the nicest place in the world to live. Even if you live in Atherton or whatev, you still want to go to the Zoo, see a Giants game, go to the piers, Legion of Honor, etc. It's impossible to not see the blight of homelessness and drug addiction driving to those areas.
by Anonymous | reply 130 | March 29, 2021 7:07 PM
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[quote] Carmel, CA might be the nicest place in the world to live.
Yes it’s very nice, but it’s not a neighbourhood.
by Anonymous | reply 131 | March 30, 2021 1:06 PM
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Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 132 | March 30, 2021 4:10 PM
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