Queen Elizabeth is a treasure and will be missed when she passes in a few years

We can’t be sure how many decades she had left.

Um, well it definitely won't be more than 3.

Yea, she's a real treasure alright.

At an extreme max, with all doctors and technology she has 25 years left.

I'm guessing it's just 3-4 years after Phillip goes and he's going in a year or so.

If they freeze her head, the PM could meet with that once a week.

I agree, OP. She is truly worthy of the title.

Charles thinks it’s a joke, and it shows.

I like William and Kate, but I don’t think there will ever be another so universally beloved like QE2.

R3 That was when people didn't know Hit was cray cray.

Americans draped the Nazi flag over the Hindenburg coffins. American school children also saluted the flag that way.

They were descended from Germans but not Nazis.

R6 She takes it seriously. The others don't embody the role.

"Phillip goes and he's going in a year or so. "

Oh, honey, he's already left the building

She also lived through hearing her uncles and grandparents talking about their cousins in Russia whacked by an unruly mob.

I bet that makes you take it seriously.

This is what they think of you...

That’s depressing r9. I wouldn’t want to live to be in that condition.

The way she has treated Harry and Meghan has greatly tarnished her reputation. The platinum Jubilee celebrations will be scaled back, and she's not likely to be given a state funeral.

The UK will be a republic again within 10 years after her death.

R13 I think anybody in the family who hasn’t smacked the dumb out of Harry is showing serious restraint.

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Didn't the queen ride into Studio 54 in a white horse? She's really lost her sense of fun and frivolity.

[quote] she's not likely to be given a state funeral.

You are both ignorant and delusional.

Hi cupcake, we see you...

The Queen has been through literally everything. From being a mechanic during the war to covid, Elizabeth II has truly been there and done that. It will terribly sad for the world when she is no longer here. She's the last of a great generation.

She's probably one of the last of the Silent Generation. Not a lot of 94 year olds around who were in WW2.

Is she a National Treasure, a Union Treasure, a Western Treasure or a Global Treasure?

"She really likes me best"

She’s been through everything and nothing r20. She said so herself in a documentary that the job is all involves doing the same shit year after year. She knows exactly where she will be at a certain time of the year, it doesn’t change, unless there is a pandemic or World War, and that’s that.

She’s alive but I question if she’s actually gotten to live. She also said that the monotony is what drives the younger members of the family crazy.

All that in her 90s documentary. Sure, she’s met famous people, but her life is so managed and directed like a mini-play. Visiting a night club or fashion show was bug big deal. It’s that freedom that I almost feel bad to say she didn’t get.

Will the royal family pay for her funeral expenses, or are they expecting the public to foot the bill?

I wonder what the thinks of these spoiled children like Diana and so on, who never had to suffer the very real threat of a Nazi invasion.

Selfish probably.

R25, I no longer like the Royals, but if anyone deserves a public funeral it’s QEII. She did her job admirably. It’s her personal failures I detest, but she’s certainly served her nation without complaining.

@r25, Bury her at sea, it's cheaper

The Queen visited people in hospital.

Imagine if you were hospital and told Harry was going to visit. Eh.

R26, suffer? That bitch would have been on a heavily guarded ship to Canada if she was in any real danger. The air raids might have been a pickle, but the had bunkers at Windsor and BP.

All royal families that wanted to leave before the Nazi’s arrived easily jumped ship and abandoned their country.

"I wonder what the thinks of these spoiled children like Diana and so on, who never had to suffer the very real threat of a Nazi invasion.

Selfish probably."

Diana's such a cunt, leaving me with Baldilocks and Chuckles

Don't you think she felt the pain of her country with bombs raining down on school children?

They should dissolve the monarchy when she dies.

@r32, Nah she was safe in a fortified castle, fuck the peasants

R29, Harry is the hottest one of the bunch. I wouldn’t mind a visit from him, Meghan, or Kate. I’d have to ask Kate about her fabulous outfits. I’d ask Meghan about the royal tours and life in CA. I’d ask Harry about his military tours and if he can keep wearing pants that show off his VPL. William and Charles would be the only one I’d be sort of fine not meeting. The Queen would be nice but I doubt she says much. Camilla looks like a hoot so she’s welcome by my bedside.

I guess all of the women, plus (still hot and balding) Harry can come by my hospital and I’d be excited to meet them since they are celebrities.

@r33, They should dissolve it now so that she can see what a mess her family made of it

"Queen Elizabeth is a treasure and will be missed when she passes in a few years"

Is what racists say when they contemplate others pissing on their future graves.

R32 no more so than the people left to find shelter in makeshift bunkers. Or the ones that had to clean up the dust and debris on their own. She still had a household of staff, security, plenty of food, and a government drawn exit plan for her family. None of that is her fault, but come on, her view of the War is completely different than most young girls around the London area.

^ The Queen Mother always wore light colored clothing when she was out among the bombed out peasants, so all that dust and pulverized human flesh wouldn't make her look soiled

No one wants a soiled monarch.

Harry looks Screech from Saved by the Bell. Phillip was the hottest.

R36 just because someone exists doesn't make them racist.

R41 get your eyes fixed. They look nothing alike.

Oops, they looked nothing alike since one of them is dead.

I’m still picking out cement from my hair from the big “bash” she gave me at the 13th Pillar, an underground club in Paris. Ole Lil’Bit sure knows how to send someone off!!!!!

[quote] she's not likely to be given a state funeral.

Absurd. She literally is the state. If she doesn’t get a state funeral then no one does.

The Queen is more with it mentally and more agile at 94 than Joe Biden.

And Donald Trump.

You are probably right about that too, R48.

After she dies, a lot of new gossip/info about the royal family will come out. I have a feeling a lot has been kept from the public to protect the queen.

They have been dead for years, I told you people that, they're taxidermy specimens now, they made them into automatons. Prince Philip obviously got the apprentice, they were still learning hence all the skeletal shriveling.

Elizardbeth is a Reptilian. They have another younger body ready for her. She will be watching Charles from the shadows. Always lurking waiting to stop him if his Reptilian side makes him fuffill Christian and Moselm prophecies. He is allegedly the Anti-Christ.

As an under 40-year-old Canadian, I adore the Queen. She's an institution unto herself. I theorize that the reason monarchy support in the Commonwealth hasn't collapsed yet is because of personal affect for Elizabeth herself.

At this point, we all know that the monarchy is an antiquated institution. But I can put up with that, because I like the campy old bag. When she dies, she will make more than a few nations into Republics.

Who gives a flying fuck about Charles? Or William?

The Queen will get the full works. Pandemic or no pandemic. The republican movement in the UK is small. The Queen is much more loved than hated.

She's gonna have a whopper! The outpouring of emotions will be huge. The public will need a public event to show their respect. Think Diana's funeral, but on steroids.

Oh, fuck, r39. What the Queen Mother said when she was criticized for dressing well when she and the King visited the bombed out East End was that if they were to come to visit to visit her at the Palace they would wear their best. She was giving them the same respect. (Or words to that effect. I don't remember her words verbatim and don't care enough to google them.) Her reply was very well appreciated.

Remember that at that point Buckingham Palace had also been bombed. And as for not sending Elizabeth and Margaret Rose to Canada, she was also widely admired for not allowing her family to be separated, despite much political pressure to do so.

R13 That's the most hilariously looney comment I've read here in a very long time.

No one in the UK gives fuck all about how Meghan and Harry feel. That interview didn't change the polls here one iota. The public here hate Harry and Meghan and far prefer the Queen, William, and Kate. In fact, even the American public still prefer the Queen. William, and Kate. Yeah, check out that 17 March Newsweek poll of Americans after the interview.

The more likely scenario is that neither will attend the state funeral due to needing extra security because they're so hated in Britain. Especially Meghan.

All problems will disappear if they just make Meghan queen on Elizabeth's death and Harry prince consort. Then they'll have nothing to piss and moan about. I hope.

^ She's ready...

When the Blitz began, Queen Elizabeth (as she was then), changed her wardrobe over into suits of soft muted shades of mauve, grey, and blue so that they would show the dust less when she visited bombed out sites, which she and the King did frequently. Naturally, she wore her gloves, hat, and pearls - the instantly recognisable uniform by which the public would know her. She wasn't "dressed up": only Americans would see it that way. She was dressed to be seen as who she was, a Queen, but not trumpet it. You can see in footage of her and the King visiting the sites people flocking around them to tell their stories, and the Queen picking her way through the rubble in her pumps. That's why they ended up so loved by the public.

QEII is, I agree, the last of a certain breed of British monarch in the mold of Victoria, the Edwardians George V and Queen Mary, and then her parents, George VI and Queen Elizabeth.

It's a given that, assuming he doesn't die first or step aside for William, Charles' reign will be briefer and seen as a "bridge" reign as the public look over his shoulder at the more youthful William and Kate and their attractive, increasingly public brood.

The Windsors have been counted out far too many times to make any bets on the next 100 years. So far, the public supports retaining the monarchy by a two-thirds majority. That is the point of the monarchy: it is bigger than whoever is on the throne at one time. If the idiocies of George III and IV, the profligate internecine bickering of the Regency period, the end of Empire after WWII, the rather desperate economic times following WWII through the 1970s whilst the Allies reebuilt Germany and Japan but left Last Man Standing Britain to rot, the Margaret Scandals, and then the Death of the Newly Sainted Diana - they'll very likely survive Harry and Meghan and the less than inspiring Charles.

Yeah, good luck with that

She apparently got two Corgi puppies last month (after stopping breeding them in 2015 as she decided that she was too old), so she must think she'll be around for a few years yet.

^^*Edward VII and Queen Alexandra (then George V and Queen Mary)

Another reason they will probably survive is the sticky issue of The Crown Estate which every Monarch since 1760 has signed over to The Government In return for a fixed annual payment (Sovereign Grant).

We'd have to erase our non-existent Constitution or Execute them to unravel it all.

R14 it didn’t last more than ten years, the last attempt.

The national character Britain, and especially England, simply doesn’t suit the puritanical and dogmatic lunacy of a republic.

Welfare queen. Is she the lead character in the show about people on benefits who abuse the system?

[quote] Together we are tackling this disease, and I want to reassure you that if we remain united and resolute, then we will overcome it. I hope in the years to come everyone will be able to take pride in how they responded to this challenge, and those who come after us will say the Britons of this generation were as strong as any, that the attributes of self-discipline, of quiet, good-humored resolve, and of fellow feeling still characterize this country. The pride in who we are is not a part of our past, it defines our present and our future.

This is from the Queen's covid address. I really appreciated what she said as an American and found her to be very comforting, especially as everything was going to shit in the US by the day. Going back to her quote, I absolutely do NOT think people will say that the Britons or Americans are as strong as any. I don't know when we all lost that sense of watching out for the greater good of others or sacrificing for common goal. I hope COVID is the worst our generation faces because I think we would collapse if you add one more straw on the camels back. We all became too soft, weak, and divided.

Did you find a treasure?

Her Majesty will never “pass”, OP.

She will, however, die. As will we all.

Can you Megan hating lunatics take it to the other thousand threads you have going on here?

I don't think that the UK will turn into a republic when Elizabeth dies, but it's definitely on the table for places like Australia, New Zealand, and Canada who only still have the monarchy, I firmly believe, out of personal affection for Elizabeth. When she dies, monarchy support in those countries is going to plummet.

If the UK wants to fawn over her they can, I've never understood why the rest of the world has to bow to her. My country fought a revolution to get the fuck away from their bullshit empire. She's a historical figure to be sure but I don't care about her any more than I care about Angela Merckel. As I would expect how citizens of other countries care about Joe Biden.

She's the Head of State r25. She will absolutely have a huge public funeral and the UK taxpayers will pay for it. Much like American taxpayers pay for official funerals of ex-Presidents and the like.

Is Meghan still expecting a Julia Roberts or Jennifer Lawrence type career in Hollywood?

R13 - has it right. Meghan and Harry won't back down soon. Couple that with the Diana disaster, COVID, protests, a fed up public, a country that may very well suffer severe economic problems due to Brexit and it won't be a huge mourning day.

Queen Elizabeth is a parasite living off the backs of the taxpayers and her death will be celebrated when she passes in a few years.

The Queen's death will be felt around the world and will be a massive event.

The Queen isn't the British counterpart of Angela Merkel though, r70. She's the counterpart of Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the German president.

Regardless, the point is that to citizens of other countries she's no different than Joe Biden. Citizens of many countries don't care or like anyone who is president of the US. A lot of Americans especially young ones don't give a shit about that queen. Thats why when she's gone the UK is gonna change. And that monarchy may finally just go away.

I like the Queen but I do feel that her passing will allow Britain to grow up a bit and understand that we are no longer a great power but a medium-sized country will little global influence, that no longer has an empire and is no longer the centre of the world as many in Britain seem to imagine it is.

I can also imagine that if Charles feels that he's going to live as long as his parents, he will stand down so that William can ascend to the throne.

I'd be happy if Commonwealth countries abandoned the monarchy and found a way of selecting a head of state from their population. The only problem with that is how to replace the system of selecting the head of state. It would be a disaster if these countries tried to water down the parliamentary system towards that of a politicised presidency.

R77 That's simply not true. Even outside of Britain, the Commonwealth and the Anglosphere she's an important figure. Not because people necessarily 'revere' her, but because she's always been there. A state visit by ERII has always been big news even in the staunchest of republics.

She's still the most famous woman in the world. Young Americans not caring about her is completely irrelevant.

I'm not sure it's irrelevant. It speaks to how they were raised too. A lot of even affluent American families think the British monarchy is bullshit. Theres a reason all their children could give a fuck and are like "you go Meghan, fuck these old people and their ways". Most American kids roll their eyes at self important Brits. And sorry but thats what they are. They're nothing more than more accepted Kardashians. Right down to their relationship with the press that keeps them relevant.

Lots of countries understand the difference between the head of state and the head of government, r77, and why the fuck would the existence of the monarchy in Britain depend on the opinions of young Americans?

Who do Americans think Boris Johnson, Tony Blair and Margaret Thatcher were?

Americans have trouble comprehending the role of the monarchy in the UK because they don't have a separate head of state and head of government.

Public opinion in the US is completely irrelevant to the constitutional arrangements of the United Kingdom, r80.

"Most American kids roll their eyes at self important Brits." - But we keep being told how popular Harry is among the kids of America.

American kids love people that throw a big FUCK YOU to establishments. I assume thats why they love those SJWs

She was born into the role. If she was a commoner she'd be a nurse or something.

[quote]Queen Elizabeth is a treasure and will be missed when she passes in a few years

A few [bold]years[/bold]?!

I love the colors she dresses 👗 up in.

Queen Elizabeth is a lazy ignorant uptight C. Outside of speeches written by someone else, she isn't articulate at all.

R87 she is also a drunk her gin begins at breakfast.

We'll remain the same medium sized island that punches above our weight when The Queen dies.

Nothing will change.

Brexit is a good example of that. A huge wrenching away from Europe in pursuit of maintaining global relevance. The fact that our economy will take a hit, isn't affecting Boris's ratings. Brits love to think we are still relevant in the world. Sure we are with our 6th largest economy, with our global business language, with our permanent seat on the UN Security Council and with our nuclear subs patrolling the N Atlantic, our culture, history and our Queen.

But will the post Brexit, post Queen, Britain still be important on the global stage?

"Punching above our weight" is one of the biggest delusions in the UK. The need to be seen to be "punching above our weight" is what caused Tony Blair to drag the UK into the Iraq war.

R84 She wasn't born into the role. She didn't become Heir Presumptive till she was 10 years old and her uncle abdicated. Her father was the "spare". That's why the Abdication crisis ground to a halt over several days whilst Baldwin's Cabinet considered bypassing her father for one of his younger brothers, both if whom already had Male heirs to succeed them.

You could try opening a history book. Her father was horrified at what his older brothers decision meant for his elder daughter.

[quote] Brexit is a good example of that. A huge wrenching away from Europe in pursuit of maintaining global relevance.

That’s not what Brexit was about. That’s what maintaining a separate currency from the Euro was about. But Brexit had jack shit to do with “maintaining global relevance.”

Nice try though.

[quote] But we keep being told how popular Harry is among the kids of America.

Yes, because he is married to an American, dummy.

[quote]Most American kids roll their eyes at self important Brits.

R93 doesn't realise what a dummy he is.

P.S.: asked what she really wanted to be when she grew up, the young Elizabeth confided, "A lady living in the country with horses and dogs."

Queen Elizabeth is a cunt and only Royal worshippers will give a fuck when she dies.

R89 - Fair points and fair questions. There are many Britons today, looking on at the horrific mess the EU made of its COVID response and vaccine rollout (to date, 40% of Britons have been vaccinated, but only 13% of Europeans, and only 23% of Americans), and at the bureaucratic mess it is and the splintering along nationalist lines the moment crisis strikes, who are beginning to realise what a good job it is we left.

I think one of the reasons the monarchy remains in favour with two-thirds of the population is precisely because people don't want to turn into just another cog in Europe's wheel - it is a unique part of the country's identity. The Danes, by the way, feel similarly, and so far, so do the Norwegians, Swedes, Spanish, Belgians, Luxembourgs, and Lichtenstinians, although more questions have hounded the Swedes and Spanish monarchies lately. The Dutch monarchy also seem to enjoy favourable ratings, although Willem and Maxima have made a few fauxs pas over time.

People really do seem to forget that Britain is one of only 8 or so European monarchies; Japan still retains a highly favoured monarchy, and if Meghan thinks she got a raw deal (she didn't: she got exactly what she wanted), she should check out what happened with the Chrysanthemum Throne as the Emperor's only child, a mere daughter, was pushed aside by powerful courtiers unwilling to accept a female heir to the throne, and force Naruhito's younger brother's wife (mother of two daughters, with whom the younger brother seemed perfectly happy) to have another baby, this time IVF selected, to provide a male heir, which she obediently did. So, the Emperor's daughter got pushed aside and the nephew is the acknowledged heir. And that's not beginning to go into the years of depression the Empress suffered at the hands of those courtiers - her mother-in-law was likewise made miserable, despite having dutifully borne two sons.

There are also, of course, monarchies throughout the Middle East. But people seem to focus on Britain as if it's some sort of sole anomaly on the globe. It isn't. It just happens to be a bit more visible - all those films and television series about Elizabeth I, and the Wars of the Roses, etc., etc., etc. No one makes films about the Danish monarchy. Shakespeare's ubiquitous histories are partly to blame.

Are there any nearly globally familiar exclamations from other monarchies equal to, "My horse! My horse! My kingdom for a horse!" From which also the nursery rhyme, "For want of a nail the shoe was lost, for want of a shoe the horse was lost, for want of a horse the rider was lost, for want of the rider the battle was lost, for want of the battle the kingdom was lost - all for the want of a horsehoe nail".

The jury is still out on Britain as a "relevancy". Well, what's a relevancy? Britain is striking huge trade deals quietly (well, not so quietly if you read the Express), and contrary to the left's moans and predictions, the lights didn't go out across Britain or Britain sink into the sea the day after BREXIT.

Never bet against the Windsors or, it is beginning to emerge, Boris. The Tories, despite the bungled initial responses to COVID, are well ahead of Labour in voting intention if you track it on YouGov. And the Queen, William, and Kate, are well ahead of Meghan and Harry - especially Meghan - in the polls.

Go figure. We're a strange lot - but it's a strangeness we don't want to lose.

R96 - ah, good afternoon, Pet.

Not looking at the polls, as usual? What a shock. But then, actual research and truth never were one of your strong suits, were they?

You'll be in for even more of a shock when she dies.

It's interesting to see the young queen running around being chased by sailors in The Windsors documentary.

I think she's important for how she makes people feel.

She will be mourned and missed terribly. It will mark the end of an era and the beginning of the end of the monarchy.

After her death, there will be an official period of mourning before Charles' official coronation. (Of course, Charles will be King after her death, but the official coronation will wait.)

During that period, some countries will become republics, where the British monarch is not the head of state.

If Charles is smart he will start paring back the royal family to just the essentials -- William, Kate, and their children. Anne, Andrew, and Edward and children, Princess Michael et al. lose their titles and access to the funds from the Civil List.

Charles disposes of some properties, transferring them to the government -- Balmoral? Kensington? Who knows.

Charles is smart enough to know that the only way to save the Firm is to pare it back to a minimum.

[quote] I like the Queen but I do feel that her passing will allow Britain to grow up a bit and understand that we are no longer a great power but a medium-sized country will little global influence, that no longer has an empire and is no longer the centre of the world as many in Britain seem to imagine it is.

You sound like Austrians in the 1930s giving reasons for their support of the Anschluss. I assume that you similarly would prefer the UK to be incorporated into the EU. The UK is a medium size country without a great empire, yet in fact has vary large global influence and is still a great power. That’s irrefutable. Being independent allows the UK to better utilize that power and influence for the good.

[quote] If Charles is smart he will start paring back the royal family to just the essentials -- William, Kate, and their children. Anne, Andrew, and Edward and children, Princess Michael et al. lose their titles and access to the funds from the Civil List.

Or he could let the now more distant royals die off naturally as they will certainly do eventually and as is the normal way of paring down the family. There’s no need to be impatient about it.

Charles isn't going to remove any royal family titles, unless its the Sussexes or Andrew's ducal title. And even that's far fetched.

He's not removing an elderly Prince Michael's title because there's no point in doing so, and he isn't on the Civil List anyways. That was all revised and modernized years ago.

He will streamline things including who receives a Prince/ss rank and HRH at birth. This will become limited to the children of the monarch, the children of the heir, and the next generational heir (great-grandchild who is heir).

The world will celebrate the death of that thieving cunt.