Christina Onassis

Since when does a 38-year-old woman die of a heart attack? Was cocaine involved?

They always die in the bathroom: Judy, Elvis, Whitney, Bobbi Kristina.

I remember reading in a biography of her that her mother didn’t like her because she wasn’t pretty enough. I feel like biographers wouldn’t dare say something like that today.

I’ve always been obsessed with that family and their business rivals. And yes, she should have been suspicious of Jackie’s motives.

Jackie snatched a check out of O's hand as it was being written. In retaliation, O called the IRS to report the funds. Jackie sent O the bill for the tax payment.

Don't. Fuck. With. Jackie's. Money.

I remember reading about her in the 1980s in mags such as W and Town and Country, etc. There always seemed to be an edge to the writings and photo captions that gave the impression of a slight dig. The photos often were a bad angle or highlighted her sloppiness in dress. She had so much yet seemed despairingly unhappy.

[quote] Since when does a 38-year-old woman die of a heart attack?

She popped diet pills like it was M&Ms

Apparently Jacky bought expensive things with her father's credit card and then sold them for cash on the downlow and kept the money.

Christina knew that Jackie was basically a very expensive prostitute.

That’s what I remember, R6 - the press always seemed to take digs at her weight, looks, etc. And you always heard about the pills, particularly for losing weight. She must have had very low self esteem.

At least her daughter has turned out ok.

Because she challenged Jackie Kennedy, who was anointed royalty by the US media.

People forget it's been so long, but the tabloids used to be so far up Jackie's ass you would think they were proctologists. The constant, fawning adoration over someone who really did nothing but jet set was ridiculous. But people felt sorry for what she had to endure.

Christina was married to Thierry Roussel, who I am sure DLers would consider hot as hell. Christina had her only child, Athina Onassis Roussel, by Thierry. Thierry went on to marry a woman who seemed more his physical type. Thierry and second wife had several blonde children & IMO Athina stood out amongst that group.

Anyway, I found this '08 article from Vanity Fair re: Athina's moves towards wresting control of the Onassis fortune from Thierry. I haven't read it yet, but I've always been interested in what ever happened to Athina.

[quote] Christina knew that Jackie was basically a very expensive prostitute.

And Jackie knew that Christina was basically a very homely fake-princess.

Jackie and her sister was put on the stroll by their overbearing mother. Can't say Mom was wrong. Money "isn't everything" but it is important, look how the Beales lived in the last years of their lives. Their lifestyle didn't look romantic.

R13, Reportedly, Christina had to write Thierry a check each time they had sex.

Her dead brother was a hairy little pocket sexpot, hitting up his mom's friends at 12, moving in with models at 16 . . .

It sounds cruel, r16. But if you have to pay for it, get your money's worth.

Onassis and Kennedy both knew exactly what they were getting into when they got married...it was all stipulated. I don't feel sorry for either one, and Christina was just a pawn in the whole thing. They all deserved what they got...except its unfortunate that Christina died so young.

All the money she had and never found love or happiness. Paris Match had endless articles about her at late 80s.

There was something endearing about Christina.

Random, but one of Thierry Roussel's daughters is named Sandrine. I always loved that name.

Was Jackie O ever in love? Found happiness? Jackie was the attractive, accomplished, young, wife who did not eat food to keep slim and her hubby cheated on her all throughout their marriage.

Athina Onassis divorce from alleged golddigging husband finalized in 2017. Ex-husband paid "almost nothing." Athina was smart to not have had children with ex.

[quote]Was Jackie O ever in love?

Yes, with MY husband!

R1 She was a heavy chain smoker since her teens. She died of pulmonary edema, that is when the lungs stop adequately carrying oxygen to the heart. My cousin died of the same thing at age 39. We first assumed it was an OD because he had previously been a drug user and we assumed he relapsed. But autopsy determined pulmonary edema as the cause.

From what I read, Alexander Onassis despised Jackie and Christina followed his lead. At first, Jackie tried to develop a friendship of sorts with Christina , but she was hypercritical about Christina’s weight, clothes and table manners, and Christina told her off. Christina was starved for attention and Jackie probably could have made her an ally if she hadn’t been so critical. Of course in a few years Christina was calling her The Widow and had nothing to do with her.

Once Jackie complained to Ari about how rude his children were to her, and Ari told her to worry about her own kids, not his.

Christina’s mother was no prize , either, having a drug problem and marrying her ex-brother in law (and Ari’s enemy), Stavros Niarchos, and dying under mysterious circumstances-some say Stavros killed her.

The Niarchos/Onassis feud in the late 60s/early 70s was over the top and was like a storyline from Dynasty or Dallas.

One other odd bit of trivia about Christina-she loved Coca Cola and was such an aficionado of it that she could tell the difference in taste of Coke from different bottlers around the world. She used to have it shipped to Paris from New York because she thought US bottled Coca Cola tasted better.

I wonder if there’s enough material for Ryan Murphy to make a Feud series between Jackie and Christina. Not that he couldn’t embellish, but it would be nice to see someone tarnish Jackie’s halo a bit.

Don't forget us, R2!

Don Simpson, Evelyn Waugh, Lenny Bruce, Robert Pastorelli, Catherine the Great, Orville Redenbacher, Nancy Spungen, Hideto Matsumo, Richard Manuel and Albert "Boom Boom" Dekker

R26, She was addicted to Coca-Cola, drinking large bottles of it daily.

Carrie Fisher was also addicted to Coca-Cola.

And no diet versions for either of them.

Athena must have very good PR or she’s good at laying low. No real gossip or pap shots of her anywhere.

Jackie was just passing through their lives, she needed that money. She did her time and then bounced. Aristotle dropped her because his son was killed and he thought Jackie was bad luck.

R26, Jackie did the same with her own daughter, Caroline, who had a weight problem when she was younger. Caroline was more sheltered than Christina, though, and actually nurtured by family. I don't think Christina ever had that.

Jackie must have thought every woman should starve herself. I can totally buy her as fatphobic.

Well Caroline certainly took any suggestions to heart, because she’s been stick thin ever since.

Like many who are born super-rich, r30, Athena keeps her head down and isn't interested in celebrity. She may still be involved in horse breeding.

Wasn't Jackie scared she and her kids were in danger and that is why she agreed to this unholy alliance with that Euro trash shipping magnate? Or was she just plain broke?

Getty Images has various pics of Athina from 2019, mostly on horseback. Here's a portrait - she looks quite good!

I told you I'd outlast you, Christina. I was bigger, and faster, and I ALWAYS beat you!

Jackie Kennedy is one of those figures that you wonder what all of the fuss was about decades later. I get the respect for how she handled her husbands murder. But everything later, the style and beauty icon, and especially the putting on a pedestal for basically doing nothing, is just interesting in retrospect. Compared to Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton, Jackie just seems vacuous.

Carly Simon's book paints her as a caring friend, but also as someone who was so insulated in her own wealth that she put a wall around everyone else. Very much a Queen and her peasants. In fact, most of that Martha's Vineyard crowd comes off as insufferable snobs who go around trying to one up each other.

R4, Me too! Glad, I am not the only one. I find them fascinating.

It’s good her daughter appears to have escaped the same trappings her mother fell into.

Her husband was blown away in front of her eyes. Jackie wanted money to insulate herself and her family from further pain.

How is this wrong?

Jackie was brought up to "marry well" aka a good ole fashioned gold digger. If some whore was trying to marry my parents for their billions aka my inheritance, i'd be pissed too.

It’s funny how today when Jackie is referred to in the media, it’s usually as Jacqueline Kennedy. It’s as if “Jackie Onassis“ was another person entirely.

Onassis should have married Maria Callas.

Alex and Christina both hated Maria Callas. They wanted their parents back together (odd, since by most accounts neither parent gave their children much attention).

Leo Lerman was Maria Callas’ friend and an acquaintance of Jackie.

In his diaries, he claims that Ari showed up at Maria’s home on November 22, 1968. Maria’s queeny butler let him in. As the butler was going to get Maria, Onassis took off his clothes, as he wanted to fuck her.

The butler showed up in the room with Maria and started screaming at the site of a naked Ari Onassis. Maria threw him out, saying, “how dare you come here on the fifth anniversary of your second wife’s first husband’s death.”

Maria also told Leo Lerman that Ari liked anal sex and Jackie wouldn’t do that, leading him back to Maria.

[quote]She was addicted to Coca-Cola, drinking large bottles of it daily. Carrie Fisher was also addicted to Coca-Cola. And no diet versions for either of them.

I remember Star magazine reported that Coca-Cola sent a case of Diet Coke to Christina; they did not think fat Christina was a good brand ambassador for Coke. Karl Lagerfeld was addicted to Diet Coke. He never drank coffee, tea, or water...just Diet Coke.

R47, When John Edwards was running for POTUS in 2008, a television reporter doing a profile piece on him asked if she could take a look inside his campaign bus refrigerator.

I remember seeing nothing but multiple bottles of Diet Coke inside.

[quote] Christina’s mother was no prize , either, having a drug problem and marrying her ex-brother in law (and Ari’s enemy), Stavros Niarchos, and dying under mysterious circumstances-some say Stavros killed her.

Fun Fact: Jackie was my patient during the last months of her life. She was admitted twice to NY Hospital during those months and she was put in one of the luxury suites, called The Stavros Niarchos Suite

He made a big donation to the hospital, so they named it after him. I know she must have had a good laugh when they wheeled her up to the suite and she saw the big plaque on the door

Ok r49, spill. What was she like? What were her visitors like?

[quote]R15 Money "isn't everything" but it is important, [bold]look how the Beales lived in the last years of their lives. [/bold]Their lifestyle didn't look romantic.

I thought this said the BEATLES.,, and was thinking, “John Lennon’s home was[italic] three apartments in the Dakota!!”

Thierry cheated on Christina with that woman he eventually married R13, so yes, that woman was definitely his physical type. I just researched and it's amazing how sleazy the men are in the world of the rich, but not necessarily famous. Looks like the same happened to Athina re a cheating husband. I'm guessing it's too late for Athina to have children, wonder who she will leave her money to.

I longed to drink coca-cola with wild abandon as a child, my mother would always say to me, “you’ll end up like Christina Onassis!” I never knew what that meant until now. Thank you DL

Christina was right to assume that Jackie was marrying dad for his money, because she was, and if she also assumed that Jackie wouldn't make him happy then she was also right. The marriage was motivated by greed on one side and ego on the other, and it must have been painful to be around if you cared about either party.

Christina herself didn't have to be that unhappy, if she'd ever found anything outside the shallow social whirl to be interested in she might have been okay. But she completely bought into the values of the social whirl, where nothing mattered but being beautiful, fashionable, sexy, marrying advantageously, hanging with people who are shallow or beautiful, and who looked down on her the same way her mother had. Athina grew up being horse-mad, which gave her something to be interested in other than those bitches, and got her involved with people who didn't cared about things other than fashion and sex.

Jackie was a greedy cunt. No saint herself, Christina was honest, brutally so. And she knew that her dad loved his son more than he loved her; that had to hurt. She saw Jackie for who she was; greedy and self-centered.

Athina is 36, still young enough to have a baby if that's what she wants.

the love birds

Stavros Niarchos divorced Christina’s aunt Eugenia to marry Charlotte Ford, the young daughter of Henry Ford II, whom he had knocked up (she was 4 months pregnant at the wedding). Shortly after their daughter Elena was born, they divorced.

Elena Ford has nothing to do with the Niarchos family; she is an executive at the Ford Motor company. She doesn’t use the Niarchos last name; Stavros Niarchos left her nothing in the will; and she used his estate and her siblings , losing the case in a Greek court.

As Pamela Harriman said, “Jackie was silly to marry him, Greeks don’t share their money with outsiders.” That’s probably one of the reasons Paris Hilton didn’t marry Stavros Niarchos’ grandson.

*sued, not used. I wish DL had spellcheck

R39-Those British ROYAL TWITS are put on a pedestal for doing NOTHING.

[qupte] he constant, fawning adoration over someone who really did nothing but jet set was ridiculous.

The media and academics STILL treat the Kennedys this way. It's irritating--they are so overrated versus their actual accomplishments versus people like Truman, LBJ, etc.

R52, Athina isn't too old to have kids. Statistically, she has another good 10 years to do so, even more if she freezes her eggs. But it was very smart of her not to have kids with the cheater she divorced, or he would have been tied to her (and her money) for life. If she wants kids, she should visit a sperm bank and then raise the kids on her own. She has enough money to pay for nannies and chefs. If she meets a man afterwards, then fine, but don't let him adopt the kids; let him just be the stepdad. When you have that much money, you can't really trust anyone to love you for yourself instead of your money. She married another horse athlete who had a legitimate way to get to know her and love her through a common interest in their youth; that was the best way to start a relationship, but even that didn't work.

Poor Christina lost her entire immediate family in about three years. Her brother died in 1973 (plane crash), her mom died in 1974 (drug overdose?), and her dad died in 1975.

Christina O knew she was always going to be desperately unhappy no matter what. She was a famously homely woman who had nothing but money. Even her parents didn't like her. Men were only going to be interested in her money have affairs on the side and that was it. Perhaps if she had been born with little money she could have married a modest man and found a bit of companionship.

Maria Callas would have been miserable with Onassis. He would have constantly cheated and their Greek fights would have been nuclear. Just look at what he did to her when her career was losing its luster and he found a much more prized trophy wife.

Read the book The Dark Side of Camelot. It goes into great detail about what a rotten klan the Kennedys were. It is jawdropping. Not a drop of romance there but a great deal of ugliness, abuse and treachery. Joe really did curse himself and his family. And you don't even have to be superstitious to believe that.

R64, the Kennedys mostly seem like a bunch of sleazy shores. Especially Ted. I know he had some great accomplishments ("lion of the senate") but he let his ego get in the way of getting Carter's healthcare bill passed. All because he didn't like Carter.

*sleazy whores

When Christina was happy and exercising and with no makeup, she was not that homely. She used horrible makeup techniques and created greek and onasis dark rimmed eyes which did not flatter her. Nowadays, any makeup artist could make her look presentable, if fat.

[quote] spill. What was she like? What were her visitors like?

She was there twice.

I didn't really get to see much. She was at the end of the hall, her 15th floor suite overlooked the East River. You had to go out of your way to go near her room. You couldn't casually walk by. I worked in the pharmacy and she was getting TPN (nutritional support), which we made. I brought it to her room in the evenings.

She was in to repair a gastric bleed. She was very reserved. They stopped talking when I came in. John and Caroline visited her (I actually saw John, he was even better looking in person). Her secretary stayed with her most of the time or the entire time. I heard that her married boyfriend, Maurice also visited her. She had security guards also

One evening, they wheeled her down to see Richard Nixon. He was in a coma. I don't know why she wanted to see him, or why they let her. After she saw him, she called her own dr and said she wanted to stop treatment. She was released the next morning and went home

She came back about a month later and nothing could be done for her. She went home the next morning and died either that night or the next night. All pre-arranged

Christina Onassis was average looking, most wives have a similar appearance. There's nothing wrong with having an average appearance. Christina Onassis had expensive tastes and purchased someone above her punching weight. Jackie's first husband cheated on her while Jackie was young, attractive, educated and the mother of his only children.

r64 her problem was marrying at all. She could have kept these men as play things or lovers. If they loved her, great, move in together but never marry. They could even have kids, but never marry unless he puts in a good 10-20 years. With her billions there is no issue finding a Stedman type of guy to sit by your side for decades. Once you marry you fuck up your money.

Well Onassis wanted a trophy wife. I don't blame Jackie for cashing in on the nature of their marriage.

Interestingly - although her mother, Tina, spoke English with the upper-class British way, Christina spoke English with a distinctly American accent. She sounded like anyone else acting in a movie. For those who would like to hear her voice, she can be heard speaking in Greek in this old AP clip. She had a beautiful voice - confident and commanding, though polite. Notice, too, that she wasn't always over weight.

Thank you so much R68. Fascinating post. Nixon in a coma with Jackie just down the hall. How utterly random yet poetic.

OT, but twice I was in the Onassis townhouse. Of course many years after he owned it. Spectacular setting. And a private park on one side. I think, don’t quote me, but Tina Brown lived in a TH facing the park as well.

I've always felt sympathy for Jackie for leaning over and being in her husband's face when his brains were blown out. I can't even imagine that trauma.

Even having kids together fucks up your money (kids & not married). The baby's father asks for and gets child support, like Kevin Federline, ex of Britney Spears. (Yes, I realize they were married, but child support would still apply.)

Remember Christina was with the Jet setters who were often very beautiful woman and her mother was very pretty. In comparison she was a dog. Joan Rivers did truly horrible unnecessary jokes about her on TV. Not funny and very cruel. That's why I said if she didn't have that fortune and those expectations she might have found some contentment. She took after her father who was a frog. Yet he supposedly had enormous charisma. Alexander was not pretty either but his nose job transformed him into a handsome young man. The irony was that after her whole family was dead and she took over the business she was found to be a talented worthy successor to her father but still she couldn't stop with the smoking and the pills.

Christina actually at times wasn't wholly unattractive. She didn't look like the blue eyed blondes that were considered peak attractiveness at the time.

She also wasn't stupid. After her brother died, Ari was forced to bring her in. She took over the company and apparently handily.

Her love life was always a disaster though. The Russian dude she married appears to have been the least sleaziest towards her.

Didn't she turn herself into a ginormous land whale? No sympathy.

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Here's a photo of Christina and her mother ... Tina (yes, that's her first name).

She did finally take an interest in the family business and proved herself to be a smart excellent business woman but it was already too late. She had already destroyed her body.

She was already stinking rich in her own right. Onassis had endowed her with a 75 million dollar trust which she came to possess age 21. That was a HELL of a lot of money in 1971 dollars. Furthermore, when her mother **cough cough DIED cough cough** she also came into her mother's fortune. She went to Niarchos and demanded he hand over Tina's estate in full or else - to the tune of some 80 million dollars! Said one of Niarchos' sons "My father was not a man easily intimidated by anyone, but Christina unnerved him all the time."

Christina was Sagittarius.

Christina and Thierry.

Joan was dumpy looking too with bad legs. Extensive cosmetic surgery made her average looking. There is no surgery to transform short, dumpy legs into slim and well proportioned legs. Melissa? Same. Very, very average looking.

[quote] But everything later, the style and beauty icon, and especially the putting on a pedestal for basically doing nothing, is just interesting in retrospect.

A lot of it had to do with the contrast of what had come before her. Mamie Eisenhower and Bess Truman were beloved, but they were fairly dowdy, and the both came from the sticks; Eleanor Roosevelt and Lou Hoover were accomplished (and Eleanor was from a wealthy background), but they both looked like dowagers. Jackie was the first beautiful young First Lady since Grace Coolidge 35 years previous,and she was also from a wealthy background and had gone to all the right schools. She was also a culture and a snob, so she impressed everyone. At the time--she just seemed so different to what had come before her.

Now we know she was money-hungry and could also be a real bitch about anyone whom she considered somehow beneath her (which was just about everyone not from mid-Atlantic society, including even poor Lady Bird, whose family was actually wealthier than Jackie's), mostly because she was so insecure thanks to her grasping mother and drunkard father--but at the time everyone thought she was so impressive.

Thierry's girlfriend who he was seeing before he met Christina and continued to see during their marriage ended up marrying him after Christina's death and raising Athina along with the children they had together. I believe Athina realized her father was using her money and eventually cut him off. Then she cut off her husband with whom she had shared a passion for horses. She might be alone now with her fabulous fortune perhaps with no one she can trust. Who is there when you are betrayed by your father, your husband and your mother is dead?

Sounds like a job for a gay bestie, R86, and I’m more than up to the challenge!

You know, rich girls who get into horses do okay. Look at Athina, look at Princess Anne, they turned out sane and functional in spite of all the psychological perils of being born rich and famous. Hell, look at my friend C___, who grew up rich and neglected, but who got seriously into horses at a young age and grew up sane and healthy, while her equally neglected brother was using drugs and throwing his brain cells away. She's fine now, he's a mess.

At one point Paris Jackson was set to a private school for troubled rich girls that had a lot of horse activities in addition to regular education. It didn't work in her classes, but apparently enough people have caught on to the way horses can straighten out rich girls that there's a school just for that.

When in NYC, she frequented the infamous Studio 54. Christina loved to pop a few speeders and dance her ass off. She loved dancing.

Look at what horses did for Catherine the Great.

Great dish. Frank Langella had some very insightful stories about Jackie O - who was friends with Bunny Mellon with whom Frank had a very long and close “friendship”. He tells a story about staying with her at Bunny Mellons house in the Caribbean and saying “surprise” by coming up on her unexpectedly. His description of Jackie’s response is exactly what I imagined. She jumped and didn’t laugh - collected her things and left the area. Didn’t talk to him after. She sounded like a very closed off person.

Marrying a Greek - who are generally extremely extroverted, aggressive, and confrontational - was clearly going to be a disaster. At least with the Irish Catholic Kennedy’s there was a sense of public propriety and reserve - ugly things were just ignored and not discussed - which was more suited to Jackie’s pseudo-WASP persona.

Horses are nice loving animals.

I like horses.

Team Jackie. I don't wanna talk about that shit either.

Wow - quite the educational thread. I only grew up with the articles about her daughter. I understand the issues around her weight, but she was pretty in a Liza Minnelli way to me. How sad she had to go through that.

I always love these threads about Jackie Kennedy and the people who participated in her life.

Fascinating, keep the posts coming.

Jackie received a $20,500,000 settlement from Christina to get passed the money squabble they were having.

Is it true that Athina's Brazilian ex had been cheating on her for 8 of the 11 years they were together with a Belgian call girl?

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[quote] Jackie was the first beautiful young First Lady

Ahem.

What about Frances Cleavland? She was beautiful too. She was the first lady back in the late 1800s.

Those who say Jackie married Onassis just for money forget he went after her initially, he was at The Whitehouse the weekend after the Friday of JFK's murder! He knew she was vulnerable and he was there to be a shoulder to cry on! He'd made up his mind that he wanted her six weeks earlier when she and Lee were on his yacht while Jackie was recovering from the death of little Patrick.

Just because O initially pursued J doesn’t preclude marriage mostly for money.

I wonder how things would've played out if Princess Lee had snagged Onassis instead of her sister. Lee was pretty cunning; the fact that she let Jackie steal Ari right from underneath her (quite literally) is baffling.

R96 Which Maurice turned into considerably more supposedly but I have no idea how much.

I dined near them in a very tony upper east side Italian restaurant(I've had better.) As they were leaving he saw a group of friends dining at another table and he went over to talk to them. Jackie did not go with him and stayed quietly by herself on the side until he was ready to leave. I had lunch twice by John Jr and he was by himself reading a newspaper. Not many people and everybody left him alone. I just remember him offering the paper to a stranger who he saw looking at it. It doesn't seem the guy recognized him. And as a poster noted above he was better looking in person. Like the most fabulous movie star. One of two people I've found to have a real aura.

R97-YES. It's probably why he received "practically nothing" in the divorce settlements, according to the gossip rags. And her father Thierry didn't just cheat on her mom, he got his mistress pregnant or actually had a son born at the same time Christina was pregnant. Very ugly behavior.

She had a naturally sad face, even as a child, like she knew what was coming.

Here is the pic providing plausibility to the story about Onassis' funeral procession. As the story goes, Christina and Jackie rode together in the same car following the casket to the burial tomb. Teddy K rode up front. Soon after they began driving, Teddy turned around to face Christina in the back seat and said "Now it's time to take care of Jackie!" with the intention of beginning settlement negotiations. Christina demanded the car be brought to an immediate halt, jumped out the vehicle, and got into the car directly behind which was carrying her three Onassis aunts. For the last leg of the journey which all would walk, Christina and her aunts physically elbowed Jackie out of the front leading position in the procession and took her place directly behind the coffin!

R100 - FRANCES CLEVELAND TROLL!!!! Long time no see! We love ya, buddy!

I wonder if Athena Onassis and Maria Niarchos-Gouazé cross equine paths? Both are very accomplished with horses, with the latter winning the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. I've seen Maria at Newmarket races a few years ago in the parade ring.

Jackie didn't just marry Onassis for money, she was shell shocked from her husbands murder, PTSD, depressed, mentally ill, scared, damaged. After Bobby's murder she was scared for her life and those of her children. She was sick of the media harassing her, and yes, the $100,000 Kennedy widow allowance was pitiful compared to what she was used to. Onassis was insanely rich, but he had his own island, yacht, airline, and security force, and he was courting HER. I'd marry him too if I'd been through what she had. She wanted, and needed, to be taken care of and not just financially. Apparently she lived with the PTSD for the rest of her life.

Jackie Kennedy wasn't beautiful, she was striking and VERY stylish, and when she became First Lady everyone compared her to Mamie Eisenhower.

If Christina had really wanted to make the most of her looks she really could have used Jackie as a role model, but I don't know that she ever put the kind of cold-blooded effort into looking her best that her stepmother did. If you aren't beautiful and have low self-esteem there are all sorts of mixed feelings, speaking from past experience you want to be loved for yourself and you have so much resentment for the "beautiful people" who look down on you that you don't want to be like them, and there's a desire to be beautiful too but there are all these mixed feelings holding you back from making the most of what you have. Women like Jackie and Liza Minelli weren't beautiful but could make themselves very attractive anyway, Christina couldn't or didn't.

Add this to R107

Team Jackie. She needed money to protect herself and her children the best way she could. You're supposed to be selfish. If you ever unfortunate to witness the murder of anyone, particularly family even more so. Jackie couldn't even mourn privately. This was a national emergency and public ceremony was needed to mark this terrifying event.

Jackie was still wearing her blood spattered clothing when LBJ was sworn in, she was there for the swearing in thisclose to collapsing. Melanie couldn't be bothered to put Christmas decorations up.

Class VS classless.

In Cecil Beaton's diaries he talks about going to see the ballet Don Quixote with Jackie at the NY State theater. They were in the first row of the 1st ring and at one point in the performance a gun goes off. He writes that she looked like she was about to suddenly to jump into the orchestra.

r114 That's PTSD, and it's also why she jumped when Langella scared her at Bunny Mellons' home

[quote]R27 I wonder if there’s enough material for Ryan Murphy to make a Feud series between Jackie and Christina. Not that he couldn’t embellish, but it would be nice to see someone tarnish Jackie’s halo a bit.

I’m available!

I don't look like anyone relevant but I'm available!

[quote]R74 I've always felt sympathy for Jackie for leaning over and being in her husband's face when his brains were blown out. I can't even imagine that trauma.

Well, it utterly [italic]ruined [/italic] her suit. I’d be upset, too!

Da fuq any of this Jackie shit got to do with Christina Onassis?

Did it bother Jackie that Caroline was another fug Kennedy female?

"I wonder if there’s enough material for Ryan Murphy to make a Feud series between Jackie and Christina"

I don't think so. Really, their "feud" consisted of years of simmering resentment on Christina's part, followed by her paying Jackie off to get rid of her. As far as anyone knows, the only really dramatic incident was at Aristotle's funeral.

r120 why do you think she loved and fawned over John more?

How about a Feud series with Jackie and Lee

Ooh, R122, and in her comeback role, Lea Michele as Christina!

[quote] er. I believe Athina realized her father was using her money and eventually cut him off

Athina's inheritance was controlled by 4 trustees. Anything her father wanted to spend on her behalf had to be approved. She gained control of it herself when she turned 18. She wasn't betrayed by her father and I believe they are all still close (father, stepmother and her 3 half siblings). She was a bridesmaid at her younger sister's wedding.

Did her father not boycott her wedding to Doda?

Susan Lucci as old Lee Radziwill. There's a New Zealand actress called Sara Wiseman who i'd love to see play Jackie

Athina is actually close to her stepmother who raised her, and all of her half-siblings. Thierry was a decent father to her, they only fell out when she fell for Doda and insisted on marrying him. His instincts proved correct on that one. I believe they have mostly reconciled, like r125 said.

Thierry knows a cheating golddigger when he sees one! *smirk*

Athina's relationship with her father has been very complicated. It would be interesting to know where it stands now.

'Christina’s passing when Athina was only three years old meant that she eventually had to fight her father legally over control of her fortune.'

'For a decade, Thierry fought for control over Athina’s inheritance from the Greek businessmen, and he eventually convinced them to give him $13 million a year to raise her.'

'Athina only received a small amount of money as an allowance, despite the hefty sums her father demanded. When she was around 13, Thierry took Athina to a courthouse in Switzerland and forced her to sign documents which stated that she ‘felt great aversion to anything Greek, even though she knows that her mother, her grandfather, and her fortune come from Greece.’ By getting her to sign this document, Thierry was legally allowed to go against Christina’s wishes of Athina being reared ‘in the Orthodox religion’, and ‘learn the Greek language so as to speak it fluently.’ Today, Athina is fluent in English, Swedish, French, and Portuguese and reportedly takes Greek lessons.'

'She took control of her mother’s inheritance on her 18th birthday, gaining control of 87 companies, 217 bank accounts, a fleet of 38 tankers, hotels, and an airline. In 2004 she began fighting for control over her entire fortune, including that which her father had hidden. By the end of the year, he had signed over all power-of-attorney rights to Athina, in exchange for a $100 million settlement.'

$100 million ... he should teach a class, I would take it.

I saw Christina Onassis coming out of Maxine’s wearing the most beautiful fur coat the other night. It was so stunning that I walked up to her and said “where did you get that beautiful fur coat, Christina?” She replied, “I’m wearing a strapless dress”.

Joan was horrible for making jokes like that, R132.

R129. Precisely. It must sting to see it happen to HIS daughter.

So Athina knows her own father looks at her with dollar signs in his eyes. And the woman who raised her was seeing her father first and allowed him to marry Christina because he was continuing to fuck her and knew she would benefit financially from the whole farce. So Athina's 'parents' were coveting a goldmine.

Damn R107, great post. If true, that was really cold blooded. Brutal.

She could have had plastic surgery. She had the money to hire the best surgeons.

Probably, OP, but I think she was a miserable, paranoid nutbag already.

I think Christina had a great face. Striking, distinctive.

She wasn’t all that bad looking, R139. She just dressed like a frump and wore harsh eye makeup and hair. She needed to soften her look a bit.

[quote]R123 How about a Feud series with Jackie and Lee

It can be a quadruple feud: Jackie, Lee, Christina and Maria Callas. With subplots about their shitty mothers.

(Actually, Maria’s might have been okay. That would add contrast.)

R133 What took you so long, Stan? Are you slowing down in your old age in your never ending quest to tell me how horrible my posts are?

[quote]R127 Susan Lucci as old Lee Radziwill. There's a New Zealand actress called Sara Wiseman who i'd love to see play Jackie

If you want Australian, it could be Jenni Baird (Regina) from A PLACE TO CALL HOME.

R141- According to some biographies, Maria’s mother pimped out Maria’s sister to a rich, older man when she was a teenager to help finance Maria’s schooling and music career.

[quote]Maria threw him out, saying, “how dare you come here on the fifth anniversary of your second wife’s first husband’s death.”

Legendary.

[quote]It can be a quadruple feud: Jackie, Lee, Christina and Maria Callas. With subplots about their shitty mothers.

Or do a series like The Crown but for the Kennedy saga...

How 'bout when she married the Russian KGB agent and moved to the Soviet Union? Haha. She moved into a three room apartment with he and his mother, and shit a brick when she found out that she couldn't purchase goods at will or whim. She had to go on a year long waiting list just to buy a ducking refrigerator! She soon discovered that communism was not her cup of tea. I think he got a tanker for the divorce settlement.

Christina was a very ugly little girl who became quite striking early in her teens, but was plagued with the "first impressions" everyone got of her when she was young. Like others have said, all she needed was a makeover, and not to be saddled with professional whores for mothers and stepmothers, who based a woman's worth on the amount of cash they could get for their underfed pussies.

All she need do was starve herself thin and get some good advice on what clothes suited her, and she would have been fine, not beautiful, but attractive nonetheless. A good concealer for those dark circles under the eyes would have done wonders. Poor little rich girl.

[quote] twice I was in the Onassis townhouse. Of course many years after he owned it.

That townhouse was just 10 blocks away from the hospital

I just know that Jackie, Caroline and John had a really good laugh seeing the "Stavros Niarchos Suite"

In OP's photo she looks like Nurse Jessie from 'General Hospital'.

Christina Onassis (Greek: Χριστίνα Ωνάση; 11 December 1950 – 19 November 1988), 37.

Athina Hélène Onassis, 36

Alexander Socrates Onassis (Greek: Αλέξανδρος Ωνάσης; April 30, 1948 – January 23, 1973), 24.

Frances Cleveland was by far more beautiful than Jackie.

Aristotle Socrates Onassis (Greek: Αριστοτέλης Ωνάσης; 20 January 1906 – 15 March 1975), 69

Maria Callas (Greek: Μαρία Κάλλας; December 2, 1923 – September 16, 1977). 53

Chrishtina Onasshish! Shay it shoft and it'sh almosht like praying.

Lucretia Garfield was also more beautiful than Jackie.

Stavros Spyrou Niarchos (Greek: Σταύρος Σπύρου Νιάρχος; 3 July 1909 – 16 April 1996), 86.

Athina Mary "Tina" Livanos Onassis Niarchos (Greek: Αθηνά (Τίνα) Λιβανού; 19 March 1929 – 10 October 1974), 45

Christina's mother Athina (Tina) Livanos was herself the daughter of a wealthy Greek shipping owner, Stavros Livanos. She was a rare thing--a blonde Greek beauty (Melina Mercouri was another). She married Onassis, and her older sister Eugenia married Onassis's archrival, Stavros Niarchos. When Onassis and Tina divorced, the then married the Marquess of Blandford, who later became the Duke of Marlborough very soon after he and Tina split. In the meantime, her sister Eugenia had died of a drug overdose, so she married the widower Niarchos--mostly to spite Onassis. She also died of a drug overdose just a few years later.

Christina unfortunately took after her beastly father in terms of her looks rather than her adored mother, and Tina was always aware of it. Onassis was a gross man in many ways, but he adored Christina and tried to take care of her.

Stavros's grandson turned out pretty hot...

Greek men can be hot when young. But rarely the women. And both can be overly hostile, aggressive pain in the asses. Greeks were the wealthiest ethnicity in the US in the mid-20th century. They were not know for generosity or kindness.

[quote]Or do a series like The Crown but for the Kennedy saga...

There have already been a billion miniseries about the Kennedy family.

These are just the miniseries--there are even more films and TV-movies:

Kennedy (1983)

Robert Kennedy and His Times (1985)

Hoover vs. the Kennedys (1987)

The Kennedys of Massachusetts (1990)

A Woman Called Jackie (1991)

JFK: Reckless Youth (1993)

A Season in Purgatory (1996--thinly fictionalized)

The Kennedys (2011)

The Kennedys after Camelot (2017)

This is a sweet photo of Christina and Aristotle.

Do the Onassis saga as a TV drama.

I remember when Christina eloped with some unlikely man, without looking it up I’m going to say his name was Joe Bolker. I read about it in my mother’s movie magazines.

Theirry was a flat out gold digging whore who had a parallel relationship and kids with another woman while with Christina. She was likely aware of the situation but was disparate enough to go along with it to have a child. She always picked losers and users and that destroys one's self respect.

It's ironic her daughter also married cheating scum. Hopefully now that she's rid of him she'll finally find true love and children, if she wants, but when you're that wealthy the sharks are always circling.

Jackie worked as a book editor after Aristotle O and finally enjoyed the life she earned.

Didn't know about the soviet scumbag. Shocking. Internalized masochism?

You're onto something, R46. A limited series I would watch.

Look at "The Crown." Certainly, enough time has passed for America's "Royal Family" to be exposed as human, flawed. The Kennedy/Onassis/Callas/Niarchos/Churchill mess feels ready for an autopsy.

When asked about his divorce from Christina Onassis, Joe Bolker said "When a billion dollars leans on you, you feel it". Referring to Ari's disapproval of the marriage. I remember Christina dressed Athina in Baby Dior.

She should have stayed with Joe Bolker, she looked happy. He was 27 years older than her, hence her father's disapproval.

R83 OMG what a hideous child. She deserved all the unhappiness that came her way.

[quote]Maria also told Leo Lerman that [bold]Ari liked anal sex[/bold] and Jackie wouldn’t do that, leading him back to Maria.

Well, he WAS Greek.

The character of Olympia Stanislopoulos in the Jackie Collins' novels Lucky and Chances was loosly based on Christina.

[quote] Olympia Stanislopoulos, a Greek heiress whose golden round body quivers with delight when she indulges her tastes for champagne, heroin and British rock stars with bad teeth.

Yes, she was right.

Thread closed.

Maria Callas hated her mother. Time magazine did a cover story on her in the late 50s and she said if her mother couldn't support herself she should jump out a window.

Alexander's girlfriend 16 years old older Baroness Fiona von Thyssen is still alive at 88.

But she was constantly surrounding herself with beautiful people and when she wasn't dickmatized she was a huge snob.

Actually, (going by memory here) Sergei Kausov? the Russian KGB agent was the best of her husbands. He treated her very well, and he had strong feelings for her. She divorced him because she knew there was no way she could ever accept his way of life - and she also knew that she had been impetuous again - it was all a mistake. Here's an article briefly explaining it all.

- R147

R162, I never thought I’d be typing this on a DL thread but my dad worked on Stavros Livanos’s yacht when my dad was a young man. Said he was the cheapest man who ever lived. Wouldn’t even throw away his cigars unless they were completely smoked and would smoke his guests cigars too if they were unfinished.

R181, a prime example of how the rich stay rich!

If she was still alive, I wonder how many gay men she would have married by now.

Greeks are infamous for being stingy. For some reason, Jews got the reputation - but the Greeks are the original money grubbers.

[quote]...but she was pretty in a Liza Minnelli way to me...

Both of them - so stunning

You know all the jokes about the Scots being the stingiest of all? At least years ago they were famous for it. A common vaudeville source of merriment. Well it's true.

[quote] Theirry was a flat out gold digging whore who had a parallel relationship and kids with another woman while with Christina. She was likely aware of the situation but was disparate enough to go along with it to have a child. She always picked losers and users and that destroys one's self respect.

Christina most certainly knew about Gaby. They both had children around the same time as each other. Christina knew he had 2 children with Gaby during his marriage to Christina. The women were friends

She loved Thierry so much, she was willing to put up with him having a second family. She begged him to stay with her

Gaby was actually a very good stepmother to Athina. There are pictures of Gaby and Christina with their children

There seems to be an absolute rule: If a beautiful woman marries an ugly rich man for money, any daughters they have will look like the father.

Really, Tina ought to have known that and seen it coming, and have at least prepared herself to be civil to her Onassis daughter.

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