Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

It was a landmark achievement in its day, but its day was 1937. I'm shocked that you think it seems dated 84 years after its release.

Technically, two-dimensional.

SNOW WHITE has beautiful art in the animation, but you're right about the pacing and the characters. PINOCCHIO has animation that's just as good if not better, plus far better pacing and much better story i terms of both the characters and the plot.

It's a huge part of film history, but I find it painful to watch today. Not just because of the slow pacing, but because Snow White herself looks about 12 years old. Which wouldn't be a big problem... except for the fact that at the end she's carried off by an adult man who kisses her and wants to marry her!

Seriously, look at her. Whenever she was re-drawn for future Disney projects they made sure to make her look more grownup, but in the original movie she looks twelve. Or younger.

Cancel!

I agree R3, and yet "Pinocchio" was a box office disappointment compared with "Snow White," which was enormously successful. "Snow White" was also the first movie for which a soundtrack album was released, and it, too, was a huge success.

I find old cartoons to be very creepy

R4 I never thought Snow White looked 12. Possibly 12 year old girls today look like women, and it's confusing you.

One dimensional characterizations is the character and charm of fairy tales. Listen to James Merrill:

… So my narrative

Wanted to be limpid, unfragmented;

My characters, conventional stock figures

Afflicted to a minimal degree

With personality and past experience –

A witch, a hermit, innocent young lovers,

The kinds of being we recall from Grimm,

Jung, Verdi, and the commedia dell'arte.

Never happy with Snow White after I learned Uncle Walt lied to us. He always insisted his animators drew everything from scratch and would show clips of them hard at work sketching a ballerina or something free-hand.

In fact, many of Snow White's scenes were filmed with Marge Champion then traced and inked over by the animators.

If you can't trust Walt Disney.

It's one of the very few Disney films I have to force myself to watch. The animation is excellent and the Queen is a great villain but I find Snow White one of the least interesting Disney heroines and the seven dwarfs are not much better.

Fuck that racist-ass hoe, she cancelled!

R8, scrub off the makeup and how old does this girl look, with her tiny stature, flat chest, and baby face?

I'd guess younger than 12, if she didn't have the beginnings of a bust. Well, she has the beginnings of a bust in other shots, here she looks to be shaped like a ten year old.

[quote]It's a huge part of film history, but I find it painful to watch today. Not just because of the slow pacing, but because Snow White herself looks about 12 years old.

I think her voice is as much, if not more, of a problem as her look. That gratingly insufferable, little-girl voice makes her sound like a five year old.

Boring story

A frightened young woman enduring seven pairs of little hands pawing at her, and one of them being mentally deficient. It’s Deliverance in the Black Forest, but with a happy ending.

Absolutely not--the Disney movies that came after like Dumbo, Pinocchio, Dumbo, Bambi and ESPECIALLY Sleeping Beauty are superior. Who can stand Snow White's voice!?

I think the singing should be re-recorded.

Snow white's singing, I mean

I love it. The animals are so sweet. I tear up when I see them.

I will say--it's pretty cool that Walkt Disney was ok with making the queen a completely deranged cunt--"to make doubly sure you DON'T fail, bring back her heart....in THIS". Can you imagine any Pixar movies having something as extreme as that? And the Snow White running through the forest is amazing. But that's about it.

*Walt Disney

The songs are cute.

The Prince looks too girly.

Let's try that again.

Girly prince, take 2.

The prince is the best part of the movie.

Story wise it hasn’t aged well. In terms of the artistry it still looks quite stunning! Especially the Evil Queen. That bitch fits right in with Crawford, Davis, and Garbo. She is striking. Still my favorite Disney Villain.

Probably my second favourite after Dumbo.

The Evil Queen was fabulous and inspired MGM to originally cast Gale Sondergaard as a glamorous witch in "The Wizard of Oz." When it was decided to make her a hag after all, Sondergaard was unhappy and left the production, and Miss Hamilton got the part.

I thought the queen was inspired by Joan Crawford? From one queen to another.

Although I agree about the pacing and storytelling, I'd add that when you view it in the context of 1937, it's a truly impressive film. People were sceptical that a full-length cartoon would evoke genuine emotion, yet it managed to be scary, sad and heartwarming for the audience. I remember seeing it as a child in the 90s, and my sister and I loved it, sixty years after it was first released.

Snow does look alarmingly young in the scene where she eats the apple. Chris Hansen needs a word with the mirror that said she was the fairest in the land.

I thought the sexual tension between the dwarves was shocking -- even to me as a young gayling. Sometimes I wonder if this is where my bear fascination comes from.

[quote]I thought the queen was inspired by Joan Crawford? From one queen to another.

The Evil Queen in "Snow White," yes. But the cartoon character in turn inspired MGM to initially consider making the Wicked Witch of the West glamorous.

Saw it once as a child, rewatched it a couple of years ago. Grumpy is the best character in it, the most realistic and relatable, the other dwarves are just simpering idiots. There's a few quite well done "scary" bits, but really it's most notable for being the world's first feature length animated film, apart from that it's not one of Disney's very best. Pinocchio is easily better and probably even Dumbo as well.