Appropriate Tip

No. But its not nothing. I would have left 4 dollars.

It's around 15 percent. It's not offensively low, and many will argue on this thread that they shouldn't have to pay more than 10 or 15 percent, but I never tip below 20 percent unless someone is truly rude, terrible or unattentive.

Particularly in a pandemic, which has nearly decimated the restaurant industry.

For me, at minimum, the tip should have been $3.70.

20% = round up to $4.50

Way too much R3.

What do you think OP? How much did you tip?

Just out of curiosity, do you calculate the tip from the final total including tax, or before tax? My dad told me the tip was before tax, but he was a tightwad, so.

Before tax.

I usually pay 20% on the pre tax total. Going by the 18.45 total, he should have left about 3.75 for tip. I'd round up to 4.

Who drinks coffee with their quesadilla?

Sometimes on a low bill one tips higher and 20%. Maybe its a local place and you know the staff. What's a dollar extra? DL has a lot of penny pinchers and few who way over tip, as well.

No - the tip is based on the cost of the food, period (and drinks were there any.)

The server didn't ask if you wanted some tax, or what kind of tax, or bring you a plate of tax or clear the tax away when you were done.

I'm a cheap cunt!

Why is the tax on a restaurant meal 20%? Where the hell do you live?

I am not going beyond 25%, so there.

[quote]The server didn't ask if you wanted some tax, or what kind of tax, or bring you a plate of tax or clear the tax away when you were done.

Thank you for answering in the most unnecessarily bitchy way possible.

Welcome to DL R15.

Good catch, I don't think any city has sales tax above 10.25%. Maybe OP accidentally left a decent tip.

Cheap cunts / Bad tippers will also always, ALWAYS be the ones starting threads like this:

"My Server was So Unattentive! I Can't Imagine Why! The Downward Fall of America Continues!"

Fuck you for responding to my complete and correct response in the most unnecessary way, asshole.

Are you a butthurt server looking for 20% of the tax?

Who would pay $16 for a quesadilla? Was it a main lobster quesadilla?

If it were table service, I would have left 4 for below average service, 5 for good service. For takeout, I would have left 15% and then rounded up to the nearest dollar.

A quesadilla with coffee, OP?

This tipping discussion is an Extremely Sensitive Topic.

They charge 20% VAT in UK restaurants.

[quote]main lobster

Nice.

Did you have table service or was it takeout?

Christ, R19, simmer down. What is with everyone being such a crybaby lately?

Datalounge is literally about pointless bitchery. I didn't know saying that someone being pointlessly bitchy would make them so upset they'd start cussing like a sailor with Turrets.

There is absolutely no reason for you to have gotten your feelings hurt by what I said.

R21 is the tipping loon.

No ont tips takeout. When will this tipping madness stop?

R24 I didn’t know VAT!

* Tourette's at R27, of course

It's been five minutes and no one has corrected my autocorrect dipshittery at r27! What is the world coming to?

What's tipping?

No tipping in France either.

[quote] He left $25.00. Is that good tip?

Yes, $25.00 is a good tip, amazing even. Thank you for taking care of your wait person!

Turrets 🏰 Syndrome

Some of you are so fucking cheap.

I never tip less than 20%. And during the pandemic, I always tip MORE.

These service working are going through a tough time.

It’s fine but $4 would have been nice.

That total, plus tax where I live, would have been just under $20. I would have left a total of $25. I left $10 on $35 this weekend. Eating in, not takeout.

The tipping inflation is rampant.

R28,

I’m not a tipping loon. 20% has become customary. If you don’t like it, eat at home.

I’m not extremely generous or nice and I don’t work in the service industry. If you routinely leave less than 20%, you’re just an asshole.

I give $5 for takeout because every place in town brings it out to your car. Delivery guys get 15%, anyone who does shopping for me gets 20% or more. I haven't been to a sit-down restaurant in nearly a year.

he's a cheap cunt!

R34, read it again. You're so stupid.

R36 Have some empathy.

These old prisspots need those coins for their cartons of Virginia Slims, as well as money to wave at street hustlers and escorts. They couldn't possibly tip a server more than 10 percent!

[quote] Who would pay $16 for a quesadilla? Was it a main lobster quesadilla?

R20, it's Maine lobster (from the waters off the state of Maine, U.S.).

20% is not customary. Customary is between 10% and 20%.

I would have left $5.. because jesus christ, it's only 5 dollars.

I would have tipped $4 or more. Sometimes, if my bill isn't very high, I will tip more than usual.

My cunt is Tight

R20 meant main course not Maine course.

OP, did you just watch your friend eat without ordering anything or did you guys share one kaysaydeeya and one cup of coffee?

$4.00

R46 Customary is 15 to 20 percent if you are dining in the restaurant.

If you are picking up an order, 10 percent is customary.

You.

Are.

Cheap.

R46 is the Lord Mayor of Cheapistan.

My god. What is wrong with you cheap asses?

4 or 5 dollars. Case closed.

[quote]Is that good tip?

Depends on how well your waiter/waitress did their job.

If it was standard good service: 4.50 to 5. Nothing less.

In NYC tax is 8.375% - Most people double the tax for the tip.

A friend on mine is a server and a very good one. She was telling me that all her regular customers are tipping more in the pandemic.

a bill for 50 bucks and one of them will tip 100 bucks etc. very generous.

[quote] a bill for 50 bucks and one of them will tip 100 bucks etc. very generous.

That doesn't sound very affordable and sustainable for the average person.

R58 : finally the voice of reason.

You cheap fucks who can’t tip up a little during a pandemic when restaurants and servers are barely getting by are pathetic. If you can’t afford a few extra bucks stay home, you should be saving your money.

this "conversation" never varies on DL and the old crones never EVER EVER reconsider their practice and opinions. There is no point to this.

Remember 73% of DL are 100% squeamish about any human skin contact during sex and many have never dared more than clothed frottage, and that was decades ago, do the the HUGE RISK AND ANXIETY that there are STIs in the world not to mention FORESKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And their mothers tipped exactly 10% 70 years ago in the 1950s dinner by the church in flyoverstan, and if it was good enough for mother in 1951, why by golly, 10% it is.

I laughed hard at R11’s unique way of making their point. I’m not tipping on the tax per se, but just using it as a way to inflate the basis on which I tip, and that is usually 20-25%. The other comments and excoriations are equally hilarious: Cheapistan, Main Lobster (I prefer Alternate Lobster myself), Virginia Slims, etc...

Having said that, however, I do understand finding it objectionable a bit to pay $25 for a friendly lunch. When this happens to me I have to remind myself that times have changed, we’re in a pandemic, and I’m damn lucky to be able to afford such a comfort.

Since the pandemic, I’ve managed to save more by not going out, even despite the increased spending on booze deliveries. I pass on a bit of those savings to the service workers I do run across. I travel a bit for work and on a typical day I spend at least $12 on tips: $3 for each driver to/from the airport, $3 for the hotel room housekeeping, and $2-3 depending on how many times I visit Starbucks that day. That’s BEFORE visiting any restaurants.

[quote] I never tip less than 20%. And during the pandemic, I always tip MORE.

Which clearly provides you with opportunities for self-congratulation, so it must be worth it.

[quote] That doesn't sound very affordable and sustainable for the average person.

Then you can’t afford to eat out!

Tipping $100 on a $50 check is something try-hards do because they saw it in a movie.

A lot of the people posting here are try-hards with their excessive tips.

OP, your trolling was very successful. Congratulations. Several people on this thread have had Chernobyl-scale meltdowns.

The Neuschwanstein must have turrets syndrome.

Personally I would have left a $5.00 tip.

I would have claimed to be a cop in the hope that the entire order would be comped.

I never tip less then 20% and given the kind of wretched cunts they have to deal with I always try to do a little more because I've had those types of jobs and I empathize. I'm also grateful I'm in a position in life where a little extra kindness won't kill me unlike many of the asshole tightwads in this thread.

Turrets, a different angle: a tortured mind.

[quote] I'm also grateful I'm in a position

R73 is the Gainsborough Films lady esp at 0:30.

We are grateful to you madame la marquise for your sublime, exquisite condescension.

You fucks need to get a grip on your excess tipping. Next thing we know 20% will be the new minimum: a lot of people will stop going out to dine and restaurants will go out of business, priced out. And ... do you tip at MacDonald's for your takeout? Thought not, hypocrites.

[quote]Next thing we know 20% will be the new minimum

20% [italic]is[/italic] the new minimum.

Did I miss the news that the pandemic is over?

R78 a lot of people here, no doubt in high risk groups, are eating out and paying exorbitant tips no doubt because it makes them feel superior to the staff who can't afford to dine out in a pandemic, putting our hospitals at risk.

The coffee is very cheap! Only 2.50!

[quote] 20% is the new minimum.

FAKE NEWS

$2.50 for coffee. The mind boggles.

R20 here. I meant Marjorie Main lobster which she cracks with her knees.

R83 you are DEAD to us, bye.

[quote] Coffee is $2.50.

One more thing to remind me how old I am. In the 50s coffee (with free refills) was usually no more than a quarter in most restaurants. And in some it was ten cents.

R85 why should coffee be more than a quarter with refills these days still? It is a massive drive for profits while screwing the coffee-growers, staff and patrons. $2.50 plus a tip? Nope.

Last diner I went to, about 10 years ago, I didn't leave a tip. I left early. I paid for the food I had eaten but not for anything else I had ordered but not received as the server was out back smoking or something. The server was so-called beloved but she was having an off-day, as some beloved people have. Failure of service: NO TIP. The bitch found the time to come out and glare at me and my friend. I had no intention of ever going back, of course, which is a pity because I liked that diner and had been going there for 10 years. Said diner closed about five years ago. BTW for the new: if you don't tip, never go back.

[quote] Who drinks coffee with their quesadilla?

Yes, that’s the real question here, not the silly question about the tip. Who in their right mind drinks coffee with quesadillas? That just seems questionable.

I have never had a 'quesadilla'. What's not to drink with coffee?

Le Milk pub in Courchevel serves coffee and quesadillas.

Don't ask a lesbian. If there's one thing everyone in service knows, it's that

DYKES

DON'T

TIP

If you can't tip at least 20% each time, then maybe you should reconsider dining out or getting food delivered. In fact, just cook it yourself.

I'd leave a five.

If I have to tip 20% then I certainly can't afford to dine out. It will have to be special occasions only; rarely, even then. Eateries will go out of business. Happy about that you tip-dumping moron-cunts? Repeat: Happy about that you tip-dumping moron-cunts?

Tip means, "To insure promptness."

It is supposed to be paid up-front.

R94 20% wouldn't break you if you'd limit your fat whore self to one entree.

R96 Just for that I am not going to restaurants anymore so servers will not get their tips, thanks to you.

Since the beginning of the pandemic last year I’ve bumped my typical tipping routine to 30%. Since 95% of my restaurant meals have been to go, and a lot of assholes don’t tip on to go orders, I’ve tried to make up for the poorly mannered non-tipping contingent.

R94 ridiculous argument!

R97 like you ever eat out ou f anything other than a trough you wretched sow. I'm sure your husbear will be by any minute now with a fresh slop bucket of scraps dear.

We could do away with the tipping system and pay servers a living wage. Obviously, DL would lose about 25% of its posts.

I don't understand why we're okay with $2 and change wage for servers. That's fucking criminal.

Btw, a lot of the Chinese and vietnamese restaurants pay the servers minimal wage and owners keep the tips. I still tip normally because I can't be sure which ones are doing it and I don't want to stiff a server who actually gets the tips or at least a share of it. I know this because my mom worked for a number of smaller and cheaper joints for decades. The higher end places will sometimes split the pot amongst staff. My mom would occasionally get big tips, usually from the white folks and 100% of it would go to the owner. My mom is a cheap ass tipper, which appalls me, especially since she was a server herself. But her response is that the tip is extra profit for the owners.

I cannot afford 25%. Bye servers. Bye OP. By DL cunts. Bye restaurants. Bye, bye.

And hello Top Ramen, r102!

No surprise that there are some cheap assholes on this board.

I tip 20% or $6.00, whichever is greater.

R87, you gave up eating at a place you liked just to stiff a waitress who was having a bad day? Talk about miserable cunts.

Good point r101. I always tip cash whenever I can, hoping it will make it into my server’s pocket. If you can’t tip at least 20%, leave cash. When you tip on a credit card the server often has to pay the 2 - 4% fee imposed by the credit card companies pay, and it is reported as income so they have to pay taxes on it. Keep in mind that they are earning less than $5 an hour in salary and will be exempt from $15/hour minimum wage.

R106 the part where you said "your server's pocket" reminded me that writer Connie Schultz won a Pultizer, in part, for covering tips in a series of columns.

Assuming that all tips go directly to the server is a mistake. In many cases, management will skim tips or take them all together, especially in those kinds of places where you aren't cashing out with the server directly, but putting money into a jar.

Many of you seem to deeply enjoy being trolled. Why would someone post about this if it really happened?

The tax in the OP is way off

Today my lunch was $12.95 - $14.10 with tax. Left $4.00 tip, is that enough?

[quote] If I have to tip 20% then I certainly can't afford to dine out. It will have to be special occasions only; rarely, even then. Eateries will go out of business.

Tipping 20 percent is already standard in most locations in the US, and I don't know of any "eateries" that have gone out of business because of it. Or are you suggesting that you are such a tremendous fat whore that losing your patronage alone could put a restaurant out of business?

20% is not standard anywhere except with DLers who over tip. R110 that tip was excessive.

You don't need to take my word for it, r112; you can google it. For example:

In the UK we tip average 10%. We do not tip at bar for drinks.

Most gays determine the amount of the tip in proportion to how hawt the waiter is and how much he flirt with them.

A tale as old as time.

Etiquette guide the Emily Post Institute may say between 15 and 20 percent is fine

It's not rocket science. A 20% tip just means $2 for every $10 on your bill. If you're check is exactly $20 with taxes and what not included, bare minimum leave $4 for a tip. Servers purposefully get paid far below minimum wage with the "understanding" that they will at least bring them up to that after tips are factored in. Restaurants are *supposed* to adjust their wages to bring them up to at least minimum wage if they don't make that in a given shift, but they never do. Worse yet, they push for tip pooling which makes servers overall earnings at the end of a shift even less.

It's not the servers fault that a restaurant wants to charge $15 for a quesadilla that costs them like $1.50 to make, and $2.50 for a beverage that costs them pennies on the dollar. The server has to pay taxes on their sales.

I usually just double the tax, and round up

Doubling the tax is just giving someone a 14% tip. $20 x 1.07 is just a $1.40 tip, well below 20%.

^ my bad, 1.14% would be $22.80 if you were doubling the tax.

The tax in my area is almost 9%, so…

r63 I think you've summed up a few of the people on these boards quite well. Never ceases to amaze me how some people retreat to bullshit values taught by their parents (who themselves were taught this bullshit nearly 100 years ago).

You'd think a person who was older and less social might be like "hey, here are all these other people who are out in the world, many of whom are younger and have different experiences. let me see what they have to say so I don't embarrass myself or my friends next time I go out eat"

Tipping is for poors.

I think the US would do well to abolish tipping and have a flat service fee.

The US would do well to have a suitable minimum wage which is applicable to restaurants.

[quote] The US would do well to have a suitable minimum wage which is applicable to restaurants.

That shut the non-fucking bitches up, didn't it?

Both r124 and r125 have good ideas, but since neither are currently the situation at most US restaurants and probably won't be any time soon, either tip decently or eat at home.

[quote] And ... do you tip at MacDonald's for your takeout?

No, because I don't eat at McDonald's. Gross.

[quote] since neither are

Oh dear R127

Universal Health Care and Government-based Pension.

I would also throw in:: free education and student loan forgiveness because i am not a fucking fascist.

That's an appropriate tip since you don't include the tax when calculating the tip. If it was excellent service, you can give more, of course. If it's great service, I also write something on the restaurant's copy of the bill ("great service!" or something like that) so the server and manager are aware.

I only wish the server to bring the food efficiently from the kitchen to the table. I don't want the theater, "I will be your server this evening, how are you, I am Rudy, may I suggest...." Tiresome. I don't want to chat with or fuck the staff or be their friend. What is this '"great service!" or something like that' R131; you sound sad and lonely?

^ guess who's single

^ fat

[quote] I also write something on the restaurant's copy of the bill ("great service!" or something like that) so the server and manager are aware.

Because you think the manager reads your dumb-ass comments? And what is "great service": was he hawt?

R124 Biden has a plan to increase hourly wages of servers to $15.00 an hour in a few years, eliminating tips.

When I pay by credit card always write CASH for the tip. This way the server gets the money. Can't trust owners to give correct tip if it's on a credit card.

Yes, r129, that should be “neither is.” You still need to tip in the ballpark of 20 percent when you dine out.

R136 Doddery Biden is not going to last a few years, but perhaps Mamala will oblige.

[quote] When I pay by credit card always write CASH for the tip.

Seriously you queens think you are the Ladies Bountiful of Salvation in the way you view tips as some sort of fake Noblesse Oblige b/s: the servers just think you're stupid with your airs and graces and over-tipping, straight from Nebraska or worse.

I agree about the theater, r132, but I tend to blame it on the restaurant’s management. They’ve probably trained their servers that way and get pissy when the servers don’t comply. Also, just so you know, you sound far sadder and lonelier than r131.

[quote] You still need to tip in the ballpark of 20 percent when you dine out.

R138 No. I. Do. Not. Need. To. Over-tip. 20% is too much for intrusive, over-familiar wait-staff in whose life history/resume I am not at all interested.

R140 wins for fats and also for poors.

Can servers explain how they get their tips (nightly, weekly) when paid by credit card, and how do you know you're not being cheated?

Any waiters / waitresses on here to answer R143?

I’ve been overtipping since Covid. I feel like I’m lucky enough to make a big salary, so I like to pass that along. I would have tipped at minimum $20,. If I had more cash maybe $40. Dinner time servers usually get $100. I want the restaurant and the server to still be there when this is over, so I consider this an investment (self-serving).

[quote] I’m lucky enough to make a big salary

So did J.D. Rockefeller but he never overpaid for anything. A fool and his money are soon parted.

[quote]Don't ask a lesbian. If there's one thing everyone in service knows, it's that lesbians don't tip.

No. Women don't tip. Well, women with husbands, bfs, who are straight etc because... tHaT's ThE mAn'S jOb, DeRp!

I don’t eat out very often, and order delivery very infrequently. I’m a decent tipper in general because I’ve had service jobs and they can be very difficult. Anyone doing them has my sympathy.

But during the pandemic, I absolutely tip much higher, not because I am rich or “try hard” but because I am fortunate enough to have been working at home for the last year, not risking my life to deliver or serve things to the more fortunate. It’s not like most people doing these jobs are making much money to begin with, especially now. And it’s not like most are getting hazard pay.

When I can afford to be generous, I try to. And this includes with people who deliver things like groceries or medical marijuana.

[quote] For takeout, I would have left 15% and then rounded up to the nearest dollar.

You tip for takeout? That’s generous of you but is definitely not customary nor should it be expected. As someone asked unthread, does that mean you tip at McDonald’s? At the gas station when ordering a coffee?

Where I live unless they are actually serving tables (where tips make up a portion of the income) restaurant workers get at least the legally mandated $14/hour wage.

R146 - well I’m not Rockefeller, but I’m not stupid. These people/servers are hurting financially and at risk of losing everything. So, you hang to your money and don’t be a fool. I will continue to contribute to my local community by overtipping, donating and supporting where I can. Which, per my values, isn’t foolish.